[00:12] ciao [00:18] Guess not :D [00:20] surunveri: there is planeshift [00:22] yeah.. i tried that didnt like it :D [00:23] but yea i guess it's a choice :D [01:20] How to install Mongonel application launcher in Kubuntu? [01:58] how do you get openoffice.org to use kde widgets/toolkit [02:05] policyq: you use koffice ^^ [02:05] heh. hey isn't koffice now calligra? and does it open .odp? [02:05] policyq: though there are ways to make openoffice look more like a kde application, it wont actually use the kde widgets ^^ [02:05] callifra? [02:06] calligra? [02:06] James147: i thought kubuntu had patches for kde widgets [02:06] policyq: it has patches to intergrate it better with kde ^^ [02:07] http://dot.kde.org/2010/12/06/kde-announces-calligra-suite [02:08] James147: ok good. well i must have a wrong package then. i am using openoffice.org-impress === ironfroggy_ is now known as Guest34606 [03:35] basso: so you're saying the only thing you change is going from ubuntu to kubuntu? [03:37] policyq: its like this, when mounting a server with ssh in ubuntu, i can stream videofiles remotly using VLC, but in kubuntu, it copies the file to a tmp folder and plays it from there [03:37] basso: are you mounting the same way [03:39] policyq: in ubuntu i use the "Connect to server thingi" in the gnome panel, and in kubuntu i have tried using "add entry" and "Network - Add Network Folder" [03:40] basso: by the way, vlc does act differently depending on whether it detects you're in a kde session. it may use KIO if your'e in KDE [03:40] basso: try starting vlc like this 'env KDE_FULL_SESSION= vlc' [03:40] and see if it does the same thing [03:41] basso: also, mounting differently could cause the difference too === stalcup is now known as v [05:00] is anyone really good with themeing or making your desktop pretty? in particular i'm trying ti do something about this flat grey border around applications like firefox and dolphin, etc. if someone knows what area of applications i'm talking about and could tell me what those are called at least that would help a lot too [05:06] Magnusson: try either gtk-oxygen, or oxygen-gtk [05:06] I can't remember which it is [05:06] valorie: what's that area called? do you know? :( [05:07] or what setting is it exactly to change? [05:09] hi [05:12] Magnusson: kde is based on Qt [05:12] the gtk apps don't look so good, so that package makes them look like Oxygen [05:13] valorie: ah ha, that's a start! (sorry not very experienced with linux) so basically to improve their looks i should look for qt themes eh? [05:13] more info about it here: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=136216 [05:14] that package will do it for you [05:14] thanks a lot :D [05:14] I suggest using packagemanager or muon rather than downloading from there, however [05:14] I hope you like it [05:14] :-) [05:15] cool [05:15] i looked at muon, do you like it? i was hesitant to install [05:18] http://distrowatch.com/ === freaky[t] is now known as freakyy[t] [05:26] Magnusson: Why were you hesitant? [05:27] Daskreech: oh just ignorance lol. didnt know how well it worked, bugs, etc [05:27] i just reinstalled so i'm trying to keep this system as nice and stable as possible [05:27] Magnusson: :) === freakyy[t] is now known as freaky[t] [05:27] ah well to each his own [05:27] I try and break mine as soon as I can [05:29] Daskreech: hahah well i'm not afraid of it necessarily, obviously i've broken a few systems. i'd just like to avoid the hassle if possible and keep my system nice and streamlined since i just repopped my linux cherry [05:30] Wasn't aware you could redo that :) [05:31] Muon is far away enough from the functional working libraries that you should be able to try it [05:31] if you don't like it then removing or purging it doesn't harm anything [05:31] as a good linux program should behave [05:32] lol well a few years ago i was running mandrake exclusively for about 6 months, then quit and built a new computer, and just stuck with windows, soo all that i learned during that time pretty much went poof. but being the nerd i am got curious again so had to reinstall [05:32] and see what kind of technological trouble i could get into [05:35] heh, I started with Mandrake as well [05:35] but never left [05:35] win2kpro was my last windows [05:36] although this laptop had some kind of win on it before I blew it away [05:36] sort of by mistake [05:36] hah i was shocked i changed myself, but i'm just kind of experimenting with different distros now. :) yeah i was fortunate enough when i first started linux to have some guy mail me all his old distro disks. mandrake 7.2 i think was my first [05:36] lol fun mistake [05:36] I've somehow always managed to have a copy of windows. Almost never use them though [05:37] 7.2 was nice [05:39] man i don't think there's a word for how badly i peed my pants with happy the first time i got it installed and got startx to work [05:40] nothing like a little pee of joy [05:41] indeed [05:43] warm and yellow, rushing down your pants [05:43] that's how you celebrate a big victory [05:44] yeah part of the problems with Linux today is too many things just work [05:44] hahaha [05:44] Daskreech>eehhh, i can't say i'm not a fan of that :) [05:44] Detracts from the beauty of the man behind the curtain [05:44] i'd rather they just work first, then i figure out HOW [05:45] as i'm hacking the system to pieces [05:45] That works as well [05:45] got no problem getting under the hood, but i'd at least like to have the option of just having it "work" as well :) [05:46] speaking of which...is there like a kde sound theme utility? [05:46] When we start getting things like telepathy and GHNS throughout the system it's just going to be this aggravting bliss of you thinking about things and they happen [05:47] umm sound? [05:47] hmm never seen one. Tried KDE-look.org ? [05:47] lol Daskreech, yeah "what would happen if i change this line...." then lots of profanity as your system crashes [05:47] well i have lots of sound themes already, i just didn't know if there was a central way to select between them [05:48] but yes i got them from kde look [05:48] Well that's the thing most stuff now has editable backends but you'll never think of going there [05:54] Course on the other hand it's way easier for people to jump in and help [05:55] yeah exactly, that's what i've been most impressed by, it's amazing the wealth of people that are available and skilled enough to help [06:01] Yeah open source methods are always going to win long term === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [06:15] hi sre-su [06:15] Hi Daskreech [06:15] hi joseph__ [06:15] wassup? [06:16] hi [06:16] i am useing kde 4.6 [06:18] hi ubuntu [06:19] not a lot sre-su [06:19] joseph__: Welcome. how are things? [06:21] cool [06:22] fine [06:24] hmm [06:25] hi dask^^ [06:26] hi asobi :) [06:26] how do you edit the backend? [06:29] asobi: Which backend? [06:29] any? [06:29] Well that's the thing most stuff now has editable backends but you'll never think of going there [06:30] asobi: Depends on the backend :) [06:30] what's something simple [06:30] topic is announcing 4.5.4, very old news [06:30] dmatti: No that's correct [06:31] Daskreech: hm, but no news mentioning it [06:31] except for december SC release [06:32] dmatti: That's the official supported one in Main [06:32] asobi: dpkg is one I guess [06:32] how do i get to it [06:33] asobi: look in /etc/apt/sources.list [06:33] Daskreech: I get it now [06:33] dmatti: :) [06:33] then what? [06:36] asobi: Well you can edit it to get new servers or remove ones you have [06:36] i like how it keeps track of how i installed it first [06:37] but i don't know any servers [06:42] asobi: there are some in there already [06:42] If there is a line with a # in front of it then it is commented out [06:42] That line will not be used. If you want you can try to put a comment in front of a few lines and type apt-get update [06:42] i mean, what new servers would i add? [06:43] take them out and then save and run apt-get update again [06:43] You will see the servers turn up in the descriptions of the updates [06:43] that would mean i will get less updates? [06:46] asobi: if you put a comment in front of all the lines then you will get no updates (and can't install things easily from the internet) [06:46] adding a line can add anywhere from 1 to 5 servers [06:47] More servers in theory add more updates [06:56] it looks like i have outdated servers [06:57] also, it didn't offer any updates? [07:21] hi === gary_ is now known as Guest16177 [07:51] asobi: sorry stepped away . Why would you say you have outdated servers? [08:29] hi. what is the name of the package that shows in kde new hotplug devices ? (usb, cdrom,etc.) please ? [08:29] you know when you insert an usb device, a window pops [08:30] it's part of plasma, it's the Device Notifier widget [09:13] <_BS_> Remind me ... how to limit the number of prior versions update_grub uses? [09:14] tsimpson, i don't find the plasma package. What is the package name that includes plasma ? [09:15] <_BS_> Or for that matter ... how many os versions get installed / maintained? e.g. New one comes down, one gets deleted from system / grub menu? [09:15] reber: it's part of the core of KDE, if you are running KDE you have plasma running [09:16] tsimpson, ok. *but* on my debian, new plugged devices don't pop any windows. Any ideas of what it could be ? [09:17] whereas i don't have this problem on my other ubuntu [09:17] is the applet there? it should either be in the system tray, or next to it, with a USB-like icon [09:18] other than that, it uses DBus and maybe HAL (though I'm not sure it requires HAL these days) [09:19] <_BS_> @reber: try 'kdeplasma' (in a search in synaptic?) [09:20] the plasma executable is in plasma-desktop, but if you are running a KDE desktop, you already have plasma === _BS_ is now known as _BS_-NOT === rysiek|pl_ is now known as rysiek|pl [10:15] hi all [10:15] hi [10:18] You know the difference between a whore and microsoft? [10:19] there's none - both screw their customers === basti2 is now known as basti === priya is now known as Guest91850 === gary_ is now known as Guest95887 [12:01] hello. i was wondering if there was a way to keep kmail in the background without activating that it always be in the taskbar [12:01] i set it to use the message indicator.. i don't want it to close i just want it to minimize to message indicator like kopete does [12:51] hello === newbie is now known as Guest51675 === Guest51675 is now known as OxDeadC0de_ [13:29] www.yahoo.com.tw === marco is now known as Guest58577 [14:04] Hi folks [14:15] hello BluesKaj [14:16] hi goodtime [14:16] hey hows it going [14:16] i just got up like 1 hour ago [14:16] went to sleep at 3am [14:17] was up by 8 [14:17] * BluesKaj nods [14:20] * goodtime is listening to New American Century [Audacious] [14:20] hmmm [14:20] got to fix that [14:22] amarok is ok , just a bit clunky ...trying too hard to be like wmp [14:43] BluesKaj: you should run apt-get install audacious [14:43] its just like winamp but looks cooler [14:45] I've run audacious a few times , but havent tried it lately , I'll check it out [14:45] goodtime, ^ [14:47] its a good mp3 player [14:51] seems to play flac files very well too :) [14:51] yep yep :) [14:51] * BluesKaj is not an mp3 fan , try to keep the music as lossless aspossible [14:52] tries [14:54] I used audacity to copy a bunch of vinyl ...it worked fine but a lotta work . Patience is the key in that kind of endeavour :) [14:55] yeah [14:58] decided that since I already owned the vinyl i wouldn't be breaking any laws here if I DL'd the albums via ktorrent. [14:59] perhaps === _BS_ is now known as Guest192 [15:00] it's legal here , so far [15:00] not here [15:01] US senators are are puttting pressure on us to conform to US copyright laws , they don't seem to undestand that we're a soveriegn country :) === Guest192 is now known as _BS_-NOT [15:02] but that statement will just attract the offtopic cops , so I'll stop [15:03] right [15:08] offtopic polizia [15:08] minute men [15:11] there's some leniency here if the room isn't too busy [15:16] yeah [15:16] just some chitter chatttter [15:30] hi === dhodgkin is now known as Guest15660 [15:35] FYI , offtopic chat at #kubuntu-offtopic :) === mren|off is now known as mren [15:46] I am hoping to get help installing kubuntu over Internet [15:47] I have booted via PXE [15:47] but I need to install from a mirror [15:47] where do I point the Ubuntu Installer so that it installs kubuntu instead of ubunut [15:47] ? === itsme_ is now known as itsme__ [17:02] hi everyone, how do i get the menu bar back in konversation (ctrl m) is NOT working) === michael is now known as Guest2643 [17:03] itsme__, try right click , choose menubar [17:04] no go BluesKaj [17:05] its like ctrl m 'sees' that it there, but it isnt :P [17:05] checj=k that your KB isn't locked [17:05] err check [17:05] kbord locked? [17:06] look for lock key , usually beside the f12 [17:16] itsme__, right click maintoolbar ? [17:17] not working BluesKaj [17:19] ill try reinstalling konv. thanks BluesKaj === massimo is now known as Guest67181 === itsme is now known as itsme__ === itsme is now known as itsme__ === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] === _BS_-NOT is now known as _BS_ === _BS_ is now known as _BS_-NOT === marco is now known as Guest95401 [18:39] hi people i need a bit of help if you care to help a noob [18:40] Eiriksvin: just ask :) [18:40] someone will surely reply [18:40] thanks [18:40] !question [18:40] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:42] I have a Netgear Rangemax WPN111 and i have installed ndiswrapper and the driver, but even though it recognises the hardware the blue light wont come on and I cant get the wireless connection check box [18:42] what do i do... Im trying to leave windows in the dust, but without internet i cant [18:43] Eiriksvin: which release are you using? [18:43] kubuntu [18:44] ndiswrapper 1.56 i think [18:44] and i have tried both drivers [18:44] Eiriksvin: which release? [18:44] idk? [18:45] Eiriksvin: if you are not sure about your release run lsb_release -a on your terminal [18:45] hmm, i guess ill have to find out and come back later [18:46] Eiriksvin: not likely, are you on your system now? [18:46] im on winblows right now [18:46] ohh.... do you have the iso or disk from which you installed? [18:47] it was installed by someone my little brother knows and he has the disk [18:47] i think its 9.somethin [18:47] its the one that starts with a k [18:48] koala [18:48] ? [18:48] Eiriksvin: 9.something :/ pretty old, I guess you should try a newer version. it may support your chipset properly and I think it will solve most of your problems. [18:48] Eiriksvin: yup its pretty old :) [18:48] how do i update without internat or the disk? [18:49] is there a deb? [18:49] Eiriksvin: well I'll suggest that, try to get wired connection working first. once you are into kubuntu and with internet connection on it you can upgrade to any release :) [18:50] I only have wifi [18:50] its an apartment building [18:50] Eiriksvin: hmm.... you can download the iso of newer version from windows and then install it on that partition. [18:50] !iso [18:50] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [18:51] crap :/ [18:51] well i guess i can try to bring it to my friends house... is that a good idea? [18:51] Natty Narwhal, KDE 4.6.2, rekonq 0.7.0. Opening http://kde-look.org, and any subsequent page on the site, causes a Save As window to open with the file safari.jsp identified. I believe this 'bug' has been reported, but does anyone have a clue as to when it will be resolved, or a temporary fix to prevent it? [18:52] bbl [18:52] Eiriksvin: that will help :) but may be too much trouble for you. if your internet speed is good, simply download the iso :) and install not a big deal [18:52] Eiriksvin, you can download the iso live-cd here : www.ubuntu,com [18:53] or here www.kubuntu.com [18:53] which is better [18:57] oops [18:58] * BluesKaj is a little slow on the uptake today [19:03] Need help. After an update this early am, my system is locking up and restarting on its own. [19:07] JuJuBee, do you have access to the grub menu ? [19:08] Yes [19:08] I am currently logged in via gnome [19:09] what are the packages that have "-snapshot" next to them? [19:09] ok JuJuBee choose the recovery kernel , and in the dialog "repair broken packages" , then reboot [19:10] BluesKaj: OK I will try that. [19:10] does it mean it's the latest build? [19:10] katsrc: how do I find out? [19:10] katsrc: using 10.10 [19:10] wut [19:11] katsrc: were you telling me about -snapshot? [19:11] no [19:11] sry [19:11] np [19:17] katsrc, in the package manager the snapshot option , will show a thumbnail of the app window [19:17] BluesKaj: oh, ok. thanks! === michaela is now known as LinuxUser1 === Shaun_ is now known as Shaun [19:52] As to the rekonq safari.jsp issue, a workaround to prevent the Save As window opening, just add *.intellitxt.com to the Ad Block Manual Filters. See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268628 [19:52] KDE bug 268628 in general "Rekonq wants to download "safari jsp" on some pages" [Normal,Assigned] === _BS_-NOT_ is now known as _BS_-NOT === beto is now known as sagat [20:06] boa tarde [20:06] kubuntu ou gnome ? [20:07] !pt [20:07] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [20:07] obrigado === kjcole_ is now known as kjcole === _chris_ is now known as chris_____ === chris_____ is now known as _chris_ [20:51] <_chris_> euh... ya qqn? [20:52] <_chris_> je fais fuir tout le monde... [20:52] <_chris_> \o/ === michaela is now known as LinuxUser1 [20:58] <_chris_> *euh... === _BS_-NOT_ is now known as _BS_-NOT [20:59] <_chris_> euh.. [20:59] <_chris_> ouais... [20:59] <_chris_> bah j'suis alone [20:59] <_chris_> ^^ [21:25] <_chris_> lol === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:35] hello all, has anyone run into issue w/ mounting NFS or SMB shares after the recent Maverick Meerkat update? [21:39] <_chris_> ouais surement [21:39] <_chris_> i didn't understant anything because i'm french. [21:39] :/ [21:40] <_chris_> but if you can explane things most... clearly for me, that would be better ^^ [21:40] <_chris_> sorry... [21:40] <_chris_> more* [21:40] bonjour a tous, quelqu'un at-il courir en question w / montage NFS ou SMB part après la récente mise à jour Maverick Meerkat? [21:40] :D [21:41] <_chris_> ah, c'est mieur [21:41] <_chris_> mieux [21:41] !fr | clay_ [21:41] clay_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [21:41] <_chris_> merde. sésolé [21:41] <_chris_> désolé [21:42] I do speak English :) I was translating for chris [21:49] hi [21:50] hello [21:51] how do you like kubuntu 11.04 beta 2 so far? [21:52] its nice but I am having an issue w/ SMB and NFS shares [21:52] hi , i wanna connect to my Yahoo ID through Pidgin , but i'm receiving this error everytime : no internet connection . what should i do ? [21:52] been having an issue since the recent Maverick Meerkat update [21:52] i see. i don't try to connect to windows so i wouldn't know :) [21:53] I would check for firewall rules blocking connections on the port used by Pidgin [21:53] Well its not just windows [21:53] Windows is SMB [21:53] hi , i wanna connect to my Yahoo ID through Pidgin , but i'm receiving this error everytime : no internet connection . what should i do ? [21:53] I had been using NFS for so long without any issues and as soon as this update rolled through the mounts would just freeze any file manager that I was using [21:54] @ amir check your firewall [21:54] someone help me please [21:54] i'm in Kubuntu now [21:54] how can i check that ? [21:54] so did you roll back to the LTS? [21:54] firwall on router [21:54] no [21:54] I went to Fedora 15 testing to check out the new Gnome3 [21:54] same issue [21:55] My laptop was even affected [21:55] yeah, and no configuration choices in gnome 3 [21:55] I think it must have been a Kernel update or X.org update [21:56] no that's not the problem. becaouse i can use Kopete ! [21:56] Cause I bet if I went back to an older version or even debian I bet it would work [21:57] Windows 7 can even mount my NFS shares from FreeNas [21:57] but not my linux boxes lol, thats irony right there [21:58] oh so you have western digital external raid drives or something like that? [21:58] amir check the port used by Kopete and make sure Pidgin is using the same port for Yahoo [21:58] nope nothing that fancy [21:58] I have a FreeNAS box that i made and setup NFS shares so my Desktop and Laptop will connect to them [21:59] I had seen some issues Posted but they are all over the place [22:00] I guess the only thing I had found is that it may have something to do w/ 10/100/1000 cards [22:00] which my entire network is gigabit === mitch is now known as Guest23656 [22:00] what about zeroconf? its supposed to be better. [22:00] not exactly sure what that is [22:01] i had seen it before but never touched it [22:01] i saw it on the kubuntu website, as an alternative to nfs and smb [22:02] is it a different protocol? [22:02] clay_, can you ssh into the NAS ? [22:02] yes i believe it is. [22:04] yes I can SSH into it [22:04] maybe i will setup a freenas server and play around with it, i do have a spare dell sitting here. [22:04] FreeNAS is pretty cool [22:05] I just recently upgraded to their 8 version that is still in testing. I mostly got it for the uPnP for the Xbox, that works OK sometimes [22:06] cool [22:06] but getting anything non-Microsoft to work with a Microsoft product is kind of hard anyway [22:07] and if ZeroConf is a different protocol then it won't work w/ FreeNAS since its FreeBSD based [22:07] wow, the iso is only 105mb? === mitch_ is now known as Guest72555 [22:08] yea, it started out as just an image that you write to a Compact Flash card for embeded systems but now you can install it like any other Unix OS [22:09] i'm downloading it now [22:09] check out M0n0wall and PFSense they are firewall/routers that you can use on like a regular desktop machine [22:10] i will [22:13] How do you highlight some code and insert comments for those lines of code? [22:13] in kate [22:14] put # in from of the text to comment it out or to make a comment [22:14] not sure what you meant by highlight [22:15] front* not from [22:24] how do I edit mouse and keyboard settings in KDE? [22:30] MK``, system settings/input devices [22:34] Thanks BluesKaj [22:35] kmenu/apps/settings/system settings/input devices to be more precise , MK`` , but I bet you alkready found it anyay :) [22:35] anyway [22:35] I'm actually in a gnome session right now and couldn't find it in the menu ^^ [22:36] I keep bouncing back and forth [22:36] Unity or just gnome ? [22:36] GNOME Shell [22:36] ok [22:37] well , gotta go [22:37] seeya === dhodgkin is now known as Guest62658 [23:24] Upgraded from ubuntu to kubuntu via apt-get, now secondary monitor is not recognized. First monitor works fine, but dual screens is broken. How do I fix this? === bdmeyer is now known as Rho-Bot === mren is now known as mren|off