[00:00] except [00:00] thats a gravatar logo [00:00] not a gravatar source [00:00] Right. [00:00] GravatarLogo extends from GravatarSource [00:00] which implements IGravatarSource [00:00] Does zope not check the MRO? [00:00] try adding both the concrete classes to the zcml [00:01] Either way, it's a good thing to try. [00:01] Thanks. [00:01] * magcius is a bit disgusted at how long "make run" takes [00:01] ditto :) [00:01] You don't have a process where it will re-load changed classes with inotify or something? [00:02] thats horribly unreliable in python [00:02] paste does it [00:02] particularly when you have class references outside the module [00:02] but yeah [00:02] reload() is terrible, I know [00:02] AttributeError: 'EmailAddress' object has no attribute 'lower' [00:02] grah [00:02] doing it and doing it reliably are entirely different things :) [00:04] sure [00:04] but does bin/compiletemplates need to be run every time? [00:04] I'm not sure [00:04] do I really need to start that xmlrpc server? [00:04] optimising this is pretty low on the pile [00:04] the xmlrpc service is free timewise [00:04] its just another listener [00:05] meh, I'm not sure what's taking up time before the DEBUG OH NOES [00:05] warning [00:06] and the HTTP server starting [00:06] zcml [00:06] yay zope [00:06] you looked into grok? [00:07] aware of it [00:07] lp's code base priorities are getting performance in shape (which is mainly destroying the assumption that objects are cheap - a deeply held zope assumption); then test performance [00:08] the other stuff [00:33] win -stable message links +date based sorting - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/736012 [00:33] <_mup_> Bug #736012: Person:+mailinglist-moderate timeout < https://launchpad.net/bugs/736012 > [00:35] [this is a good thing, stable links were asked for a lot] [00:47] Project windmill build #211: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 5 min: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/211/ [00:47] gah, gravatar is stupid [00:47] and they don't have a bug tracker [00:48] they strip all "@" from the default URL for some stupid reason [00:54] heh [00:54] personally I don't like gravatar *because* its the same avatar everywhere [00:56] I like that. [00:56] Because then I only have to change it *once*. [00:56] if you want the same one all over [00:56] which I don't [00:56] I want close friends to see a photo [00:57] colleagues to *perhaps* [00:57] folk I game with to see a game related brag [00:57] folk in the open source community to see something stylised [00:57] and everyone else to not see anything at all [00:58] there's people not in the open source community? [00:58] huge swathes of em :) [00:58] google have done some research into the overlap of communities and social networks; it suggests that desires like mine may be very very common [05:01] Project windmill build #212: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 4 min: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/212/ === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [09:17] Project windmill build #213: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 5 min: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/213/ === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [20:18] Project windmill build #214: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 5 min: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/214/ === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [23:15] is there a way to re-upload a package to my ppa with the same version? I tried deleting my package from the ppa yesterday and uploaded it again today, but I get: " uploaded version has different contents". I'm surprised Launchpad keeps a history of uploaded version of deleted packages for such a long time [23:35] its deliberate [23:35] perhaps misguided [23:35] but apt archive *clients* cannot be assumed to not have the package [23:35] and have no invalidate-this-version protocol