[14:38]  * vish gets ready to kick darkmatter out of here ;)
[14:43] <darkmatter> vish: ? you on drugs? o.O
[14:43] <darkmatter> what did I do? and how many innocent victims did I take with me? LOL
[14:44] <vish> darkmatter: i see what you are installing ;p
[14:46] <darkmatter> vish: it's ok. I hate yum. it's a temporary thing anyway. I want fully functional default GNOME3 without having to purge junk, or have apps that don't support the refined gobject bits no-worky after upgrading, and I also want a functional plymouth with my nvidia without 15 minutes of hacking :P
[14:46] <darkmatter> vish: so don't feel bad. I'll cry everytime I open the package manager xD
[14:46] <vish> lol!
[14:47] <Islington> functional plymouth with my nvidia  < is that possible
[14:47] <Islington> mind=blown
[14:48] <darkmatter> <--like synaptic, _would_ like ubuntus software center if it wasn't the chubby cow. likes suses package manager. does _NOT_ like fedoras
[14:49] <darkmatter> Islington: yes. from the nvidia guide for F15, install and run the boot configuration gui and set resolution. plymouth will work. I wonder what black magic powers that. lol
[14:50] <darkmatter> it's not automatic, but at least it's not a dirty hack ;)
[14:51] <Islington> I am gonna be honest, I am not enjoying unity at all.
[14:51] <darkmatter> only way I've ever had a functional plymouth in ubuntu was through potentially hosing my system
[14:51] <vish> Islington: welcome to the club ;)
[14:52] <darkmatter> vish:  SHELL! SHELL! SHELL!
[14:52]  * darkmatter swoons
[14:52] <vish> meh.. i'm just gonna stick with 10.10 for a while till they all get their minds straight..
[14:53] <Islington> it might be better if the ubuntu button could actually search through everything, and execute actions. ala palm os, gnome do
[14:53] <vish> one thing is atleast we can test Unity in Virtualbox
[14:53] <darkmatter> I had hated it back in the "clutter was buggy" and "pre relayout" stages, but the final iteration of g-s is sooo... relaxing. lol
[14:53] <vish> shell sucks in that..
[14:53] <zniavre_> vish,  i got amazing situation
[14:54] <zniavre_> unity can't work cause gfx hardware
[14:54] <zniavre_> but it work in fullscreen mode with vbox
[14:54] <zniavre_> o_O
[14:54] <vish> oh!
[14:54] <Islington> zniavre_:  lol wut
[14:54] <zniavre_> pffff im not loling in fact
[14:54] <zniavre_> :o)
[14:54] <Islington> :D
[14:55] <darkmatter> vish: yeah. that's the only drawback of shell. if it's not on a usb or something, good luck testing! o/
[14:55] <Islington> I think when natty releases I am going back to kubuntu on laptop
[14:57] <Islington> anyone going to uds?
[14:57] <darkmatter> but I've tested it. today is my thorough test-partition testing to figure out potential kinks with F15 (haven't used fedora in 5 years, its caveats escape me, among other things)
[14:59] <darkmatter> that way I'm not left half functional and struggling. then I'll format and do a clean install.
[14:59] <darkmatter> but ubuntu is out ftm *shrug*
[14:59] <darkmatter> at least for a cycle, maybe two. depends how smoothly they transition to the *3 bits
[15:00] <Islington> is gnome3 padding not yet adjustable? or have people suddenly fallen in love with fat themes?
[15:00] <darkmatter> so instead of .deb > green .rpms >>>>>>>> .deb
[15:00] <darkmatter> I'm going blue .rpms > green .rpms. lol
[15:01] <darkmatter> Islington: it's a bug in the adwaita engine :(
[15:02] <Islington> darkmatter: interesting, the css looks pretty straight forwards
[15:02] <darkmatter> buttons don't scale, which also affects anything containing a button. like a toolbar. lol
[15:04] <darkmatter> Islington: aye. and the theme is strangely half decent. lol
[15:04] <darkmatter> I may look into it a bit further after getting a clean gnome3 system up and running, but I do remember it being a bug, I just can't recall the report #
[15:05] <darkmatter> hopefully next release, or if I feel like diligently tracking git commits:P