[00:23] hi duanedesign [00:23] hi everyone [00:23] hey aztek [00:23] do you know how to install libreoffice in ubuntu? [00:23] kaffir: hai [00:24] hi [00:24] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ [00:24] * holstein looking for a PPA [00:25] yeah, heres a good link [00:25] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-3-3-2-released-and-ppa-installation-instrauctions-included.html [00:25] k [00:25] looks same as openoffice [00:25] ok, holstein [00:25] thank you [00:26] ups [00:26] how about in backtrack? [00:26] its ubuntu based right? [00:26] yes [00:27] i would be cautious about adding that ppa [00:27] but, it probably would be fine [00:27] the other directions talk about a .deb though [00:27] im not clear on how customized BT is though [00:31] i wanna reboot [00:32] Hey Holstein. Whats going on? [00:34] Unguided: not much, and you? [00:35] Not much. gotta work tonight but have family in town from chicago. did u get the thank you from me the other day. I had to go. im a volunteer firfighter and had a call [00:35] OH yeah [00:35] i did [00:35] glad all is well [00:36] Yep. Looking to get rid of windows home server [00:36] Holstein: did u see the message i put up about the book? [00:37] i dont think so [00:37] * holstein scrolling [00:38] oh yeah [00:38] a practical guide to linux [00:38] i have 'how linux works' [00:38] very handy [00:38] and all the ubuntu documentation is so amazing [00:39] the wiki pages can be overwhelming [00:39] but they are a great resource [00:39] Yep. Thought you could put that in your bag of tricks for newbs like me who ask alot of questions? Who is the author of how linux works? Yeah it answered a lot of the questions [00:39] I had [00:40] http://www.amazon.com/How-Linux-Works-Superuser-Should/dp/1593270356 [00:41] i just found it? The book i have tells you about the topic, package dependencies and how to configure it. for example samba. Great book [00:48] Holstein: I will be back later. i have to go get pizza for the family. Great to talk with you again [00:49] Unguided: enjoy :) [00:50] holstein, how does it differ with openoffice [00:57] that was mostly just for aztek [00:58] not really an endorsment either way [00:58] its an official fork AFAIK [00:58] probably not much difference yet [01:02] if im setting up ssh on my desktop is it better to have the computer password protected or ssh protected into the server? [01:19] i was just curious [01:20] philipballew: i have a key [01:20] and the key has a password [01:20] with security, more is more ;) [01:23] that makes sence. i can use both methods. that makes sence [01:23] locally though [01:23] on my mostly trusted home network [01:23] i need to accsess this server from miles away [01:23] i usually just set up SSH and do passwords [01:23] but the server to the outside [01:24] thats not acccepting passwords [01:24] you have to have the key [01:24] and the pass for the key [01:24] sounds doable [01:24] hey, if i can do it, you can :) [02:11] I have ubuntu on dual boot..But my wireless is not working...however ethernet works [02:12] does anybody know how to fix that? [02:16] ash9: 10.10? [02:16] yes [02:17] downloaded it a month before [02:17] ash9: wifi has never worked though right? [02:17] yes [02:17] never [02:17] OK [02:17] when you reboot the machine [02:17] with the network wired [02:17] k [02:17] does it have a popup about a restricted driver availalbe? [02:18] no [02:18] ash9: open up a terminal [02:18] k [02:18] and a web browser [02:18] go here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [02:18] done! [02:19] and paste what you find when you run this in terminal [02:19] lspci [02:19] and give me the link [02:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/597662/ [02:20] hey all [02:20] i have the following set up [02:22] ash9: OK [02:22] i got news [02:22] http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/tag/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/ [02:22] ^ check that out [02:22] however [02:22] i would probably try the windows driver [02:23] with ndiswrapper [02:23] since you are dual booting [02:23] and the driver you need is on the hard drive somewhere [02:23] and that just might work [02:23] Internet -> Comcast Cable Modem -> Ethernet Hub -> Linksys WRT160N Router -> Wireless and Wiredd_Components [02:23] I have an IDS connected to the Hub [02:23] ash9: eitherway, i would try upgrading the system [02:23] however you feel comfortable doing that [02:23] but when I attempt to wireless connect to my router i get connected and an IP Address but no access to the internet [02:23] any idea why [02:24] if i am hard wired into the router it works fine [02:24] why? [02:24] ash9: after te upgrade, reboot, and if wifi isnt working, i would try ndiswrapper, then that fix above [02:24] you can find ndis in any package manager [02:24] and you'll find it in the menu labeled 'windows drivers' or something similar [02:25] thewrath: just from linux? [02:27] holstein: thank you so much [02:27] i will be goin over the recommendations you made!! [02:27] holstein: what do you m ean? [02:28] ash9: let us know, there are other options if those dont work [02:28] thewrath: can you connect wirelessly with no issues from other devices? os's? [02:28] wireless in linux yes but not in windows [02:29] hmmm [02:29] let me re-phrase [02:29] alright!!And if in case I couldn't get to you today, then will I be able to get back to you again by any chance [02:29] ? [02:29] seems like you are able to connect with linux [02:29] but not get to the internet [02:29] is this isolated to one machine? [02:29] not sure as i only have 1 linux and 1 windows pc [02:29] do you have other boxes and/or os's you can try connecting wirelessly with [02:29] to make sure its not the AP that is the trouble? [02:30] i can attempt to do it from my phone when ig et back to my place [02:30] i will be back on sunday [02:30] ash9: you can ping me, if im around, i'll pipe up [02:30] i am visiting my parents for Easter holiday and no access to that equipment from here [02:30] but everyone here is helpful ash9 :) [02:30] ohhk...but if you are not? [02:31] just remember what you did [02:31] hmm..thanks! [02:31] ash9: and [02:31] you can say, im having trouble with RaLink Device 5390 in 10.10 [02:31] that'll get things moving a bit quicker i think [02:31] ohhk! great..;) [02:32] thnx [02:32] thewrath: i say, when you can, rule out that its not a router issue [02:32] okay [02:32] then come back when you're near the gear [02:32] i am running all of this at home lol [02:32] just to see what i see coming into my network, etc [02:34] holstein: have you run snort before [02:35] we had a presentation are our local LUG about it [02:36] and that was a build from scratch thing we all watched [02:36] but, i havent needed it [02:36] ok [02:36] know anyone in here that has run it? [02:37] nah [02:38] where are you from holstein [02:42] what is a good alternative to Microsoft visio? [02:43] thewrath: what are you trying to do? [02:43] draw my network out [02:43] the popular one is dia [02:43] but you may be disappointed if you're looking for a "good alternative" - it's pretty minimal [02:43] hey pleia2 [02:43] long time no see lol [02:44] g'day thewrath [02:44] inkscape does vector graphics [02:44] I got this when I started my machine:"The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet"..How can I fix that? [02:44] ash9: i would just log out and back in [02:44] see if it still does it [02:45] kk...Is it a temporary error? [02:45] ash9: it has been for me in the past [02:45] does it come again when you relogged? [02:45] ash9: depends [02:45] k..what if it does? [02:46] ash9: try and not the exact error message [02:46] and we'll sort it out [02:46] ohhk.. [02:46] or just take the trash applet out of the panel [02:46] that means..delete it? [02:46] i delete that 2nd panel usually [02:47] and dont use a trash applet [02:47] but im sure theres a fix [02:47] alright..thanx. [02:48] thewrath: looks like the newer visio versions run well in wine [02:48] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=119 [02:48] dont have visio at the moment lol [02:50] upgrading ubuntu? [02:50] Hey guys. Im showing ubuntu to a friend of mine. i forget the command line to install kde from the terminal. can someone help me out ple [02:51] *please [02:51] Unguided: are you wanting KDE and gnome? [02:51] or to move to KDE? [02:51] I want to install both\ [02:52] i thought the command was sudo apt-get install kde-desktop [02:52] i would check out sudo apt-cache search kde [02:53] k. thanks [02:53] holstein:did you say upgrading ubuntu? [02:53] oops [02:53] ash9: i suggested that [02:53] in case a kernel upgrade would add funcionality for your wifi device [02:53] however you do it [02:53] with the upgrade utility [02:54] or synaptic [02:54] or in the CLI [02:54] well..this is the first time I am using Ubuntu [02:54] I have been using windows [02:54] can you please gimme the link to that? [02:54] for the upgrade.. [02:54] ash9: when you are online [02:55] there should be a little applet [02:55] running near the time [02:55] that says you have updates [02:55] or, just open a terminal and run.. [02:55] sudo apt-get update [02:55] sudo apt-get upgrade [02:56] both? [02:56] ash9: in the menu [02:56] or just the upgrade one? [02:56] under system [02:56] administration [02:56] theres an update manager [02:56] k [02:56] do that if you feel more comfortable with it :) [02:57] it shows me just one update..thats for adobe flash [02:57] ash9: there should be a refresh button [02:57] the button that says 'check' [02:58] k [02:58] already started with the adobe flash update ..so was waiting for that to finish [02:58] hmm...it says 92 updates!! [02:59] ash9: you should get in the habit of looking through them [02:59] before just htting the button [03:00] you are right...but I am not at all sure of what those are... [03:00] you dont need to [03:01] okay..so should I go ahead and update all? [03:01] i would [03:01] you should feel free to research more [03:01] if you want [03:01] and do what you feel comfortable with [03:01] okay.. thnx [03:01] but, uprgading a package or 2 can potentially add funcionality for your wifi [03:02] but, probably not with that particular device [03:02] hmm...I'll let you know whenever the updates are done... [07:32] back [07:32] o/ [08:07] does anyone use e4rat? wanna help me set it up? [08:08] what is this [08:10] virgo, http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/ [08:10] apparently speeds up boot [08:10] for ext4 file system [08:12] virgo, I got the deb. package from their website. but when I try to install it. it says "Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'ureadahead' [08:12] i am not the pro here, i am also a beginner lol [08:13] oh i see [08:13] but my oponion about installing all kind of things in ubuntu is to use the supported packages [08:13] with software center or apt-get install [08:14] else there can be unexpected conflicts [08:18] anyone knows how to disable ureadahead daemon? [08:25] are you sure your system does not need this ureadahead package? [08:27] ureadahead (über-readahead) is used during boot to read files in [08:27] advance of when they are needed such that they are already in the page [08:27] cache, improving boot performance. [08:28] duanedesign: poke [08:29] stlsaint: yyyyes [08:32] duanedesign: i got man page working!! [08:32] small contribution from Kuwait!! lol [08:33] stlsaint: awesome [08:33] virgo: You can remove the error message by deleting the file /etc/init/ureadahead.conf. [08:33] oops [08:33] i mean halpbatman [08:33] duanedesign: question now is how do we package it with clic so it installs upon clic installtion [08:34] duanedesign: that much i havent figured out yet [08:34] duanedesign: unless another page is written to link to the gzip [08:34] halpbatman: but I would say you are going down a road that could lead to a reinstall :) This might help http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Getting_it_to_work [08:34] lol [08:34] stlsaint: hmmm, i am not sure [08:34] yellow brick road of re-install [08:34] :) [08:35] I have been there many times [08:35] duanedesign: same here, makes it alot easier to spot when someone else is heading there [08:36] stlsaint: i will need to see how to package the man page [08:36] duanedesign: aye [08:36] stlsaint: i really need to get busy if i am going to get this thing done in time to make Ubuntu-O [08:37] duanedesign: would you mind testing the page to ensure i just didnt hack my way to get it working on my system [08:38] yes i ccan do that [08:38] kk one sec [08:40] duanedesign: put this in a filed named clicompanion.1 [08:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/597760/ [08:40] duanedesign: maybe we should move to -dev ;) [08:41] kk === geekboy is now known as helloEARTH === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work [13:16] hi ppl [13:16] considering putting Lubuntu on a box... with a danish keyboard and vietnamese language [13:16] would this be problematic, you think= [13:16] ? [13:17] kristian-work: why not... all the hardware comes from China and thats all Greek to me [13:19] nlsthzn-work: yeah ;) [13:19] and good to see I'm not the only one with the "-work" suffix today [13:20] ;) but seriously I have no idea if it will be an issue... confuse the hell out of the user but that should be all... yup... - work :/ [13:27] hello, I am new here, i am register for th beginners-team, I have send the email to the intreduction. I want to know how many times after we send the introduction what we have the answer? [13:27] math-herbert: what answer you looking for? [13:28] I have US english for language and Danish keyboard... never felt confused... I guess GDM or whatever will leave the options open... [13:28] math-herbert: is your wiki page suppose to be blank? [13:29] yes i have not enough times to complet this [13:30] math-herbert: feel free to ask the wiki team if you need help on this [13:30] math-herbert: #ubuntu-beginners-wiki is the channel [13:31] oki thanks [13:37] math-herbert: dont you just hate connection issues [13:37] stlsaint: I *love* them [13:38] oh yea [13:38] fun fun [13:39] man clicompanion [13:39] crap wrong shell [13:39] fun fun, rock and roll high school [13:54] a blank wiki page is awesome... it has the potential to hold so much in the future :p [15:52] hello [15:52] hello [15:52] can I get some advice on why my dual partitioned install of ubuntu and windows wont boot windows? [15:52] from the grub boot loader i select windows the screen goes blank and the boot loader screen appears again [15:52] ubuntu works fine though :/ [15:53] any suggestions? [15:53] hmm, ok [15:55] ideas anyone? [15:55] oliver659756: yeah, i am looking for a guide [15:56] thanks [15:56] windows ran fine i installed ubuntu and now it doesnt boot [15:57] windows shows up in Grub though? [15:58] yeah [15:58] this is the grub config for the windows install [15:58] http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1303567984081.jpg [15:58] (I asked for help on 4chan /g/ board also) [16:00] oliver659756: do you have windows7 or vista? [16:00] its vista as I only had a vista CD with me [16:00] so had to install vista [16:05] oliver659756: you used EasyBCD? [16:06] I dont know what that is so I dont think so, I partitioned the drive then installed windows from install disk, I then installed ubuntu from install disk on the other partition [16:06] windows booted when i first installed it [16:06] but after installing ubuntu it doesnt boot even when i select to boot it [16:06] it just reverts to the boot manager screen shown in the screen shot [16:07] oliver659756: do you see windows in the grub list? [16:07] yes, this is a photo of the grub list [16:07] http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1303567984081.jpg [16:07] the bottom screen shot is the configuration it has for windows [16:07] oliver659756: sorry my bad I was looking at the wrong page [16:07] no problem the help is really appreciated [16:08] first thing i would do is boot ubuntu [16:08] and run sudo update-grub [16:08] then, i guess i would try re-installing grub with a live CD [16:09] i got advised to do that from someone else, I tried it and it didnt fix it when i rebooted :( [16:10] oliver659756: tried both? [16:10] how do i reinstall grub? [16:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD [16:10] well, i would do it with a live CD [16:10] yeah... [16:10] * holstein high-fives duanedesign :) [16:10] that literally wont hurt anything [16:11] and its a good thing to learn how to do [16:11] * holstein BBL [16:11] ok so i need to use the ubuntu install cd? [16:11] and do what? (apologies for having no idea what im doing) [16:12] oliver659756: just check out that link [16:12] it'll talk you through booting from a live CD [16:12] and installing GRUB [16:12] or replacing GRUB [16:12] whatever you want to call it [16:13] oliver@computer:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX [16:13] [sudo] password for oliver: [16:13] /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'. [16:14] ok [16:14] you replace the X with what is appropriatte for your computer [16:15] if you know which partition your Windows is on [16:15] otherwise you can run: sudo fdisk -l [16:16] you will have a line like this: [16:16] /dev/sdb2 29115 30401 10333184 7 HPFS/NTFS [16:17] warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR. This is a BAD idea.. [16:17] :x [16:17] no worries [16:18] no worries [16:18] ugh [16:18] hmm [16:19] should i post the result of sudo fdisk -l [16:20] can you put it in a pastebin [16:21] http://pastebin.ca/ [16:21] http://pastebin.ca/2049781 [16:24] ok it should be /dev/sda1 [16:24] so i need to use the command sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda1 [16:24] ? [16:25] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [16:25] then the command: [16:25] sorry i just cleared the window [16:25] can you say the previous command [16:25] sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda [16:25] no problem [16:26] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [16:26] sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda [16:26] note the second command does not have the 1 [16:27] oliver@computer:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [16:27] Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. [16:27] The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which [16:27] could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command. [16:28] oliver659756: ok, you need to boot up and run Ubuntu from the livecd [16:29] ok, what do i do once i am running ubuntu from the live cd [16:29] i think the option from the CD menu is something like 'run Ubuntu without any changes to my computer' [16:29] Open a terminal by selecting Applications, Accessories, Terminal from the menu bar. [16:30] then run the commands: [16:30] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [16:30] sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda [16:30] ok thanks [16:30] i will try those [16:31]