[00:23] <aztek> hi duanedesign
[00:23] <kaffir> hi everyone
[00:23] <kaffir> hey aztek
[00:23] <aztek> do you know how to install libreoffice in ubuntu?
[00:23] <aztek> kaffir: hai
[00:24] <kaffir> hi
[00:24] <holstein> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/
[00:24]  * holstein looking for a PPA
[00:25] <holstein> yeah, heres a good link
[00:25] <holstein> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-3-3-2-released-and-ppa-installation-instrauctions-included.html
[00:25] <kaffir> k
[00:25] <kaffir> looks same as openoffice
[00:25] <aztek> ok, holstein
[00:25] <aztek> thank you
[00:26] <aztek> ups
[00:26] <aztek> how about in backtrack?
[00:26] <holstein> its ubuntu based right?
[00:26] <aztek> yes
[00:27] <holstein> i would be cautious about adding that ppa
[00:27] <holstein> but, it probably would be fine
[00:27] <holstein> the other directions talk about a .deb though
[00:27] <holstein> im not clear on how customized BT is though
[00:31] <aztek> i wanna reboot
[00:32] <Unguided> Hey Holstein. Whats going on?
[00:34] <holstein> Unguided: not much, and you?
[00:35] <Unguided> Not much. gotta work tonight but have family in town from chicago. did u get the thank you from me the other day. I had to go. im a volunteer firfighter and had a call
[00:35] <holstein> OH yeah
[00:35] <holstein> i did
[00:35] <holstein> glad all is well
[00:36] <Unguided> Yep. Looking to get rid of windows home server
[00:36] <Unguided> Holstein: did u see the message i put up about the book?
[00:37] <holstein> i dont think so
[00:37]  * holstein scrolling
[00:38] <holstein> oh yeah
[00:38] <holstein> a practical guide to linux
[00:38] <holstein> i have 'how linux works'
[00:38] <holstein> very handy
[00:38] <holstein> and all the ubuntu documentation is so amazing
[00:39] <holstein> the wiki pages can be overwhelming
[00:39] <holstein> but they are a great resource
[00:39] <Unguided> Yep. Thought you could put that in your bag of tricks for newbs like me who ask alot of questions? Who is the author of how linux works? Yeah it answered a lot of the questions
[00:39] <Unguided> I had
[00:40] <holstein> http://www.amazon.com/How-Linux-Works-Superuser-Should/dp/1593270356
[00:41] <Unguided> i just found it? The book i have tells you about the topic, package dependencies and how to configure it. for example samba. Great book
[00:48] <Unguided> Holstein: I will be back later. i have to go get pizza for the family. Great to talk with you again
[00:49] <holstein> Unguided: enjoy :)
[00:50] <kaffir> holstein, how does it differ with openoffice
[00:57] <holstein> that was mostly just for aztek
[00:58] <holstein> not really an endorsment either way
[00:58] <holstein> its an official fork AFAIK
[00:58] <holstein> probably not much difference yet
[01:02] <philipballew> if im setting up ssh on my desktop is it better to have the computer password protected or ssh protected into the server?
[01:19] <kaffir> i was just curious
[01:20] <holstein> philipballew: i have a key
[01:20] <holstein> and the key has a password
[01:20] <holstein> with security, more is more ;)
[01:23] <philipballew> that makes sence. i can use both methods. that makes sence
[01:23] <holstein> locally though
[01:23] <holstein> on my mostly trusted home network
[01:23] <philipballew> i need to accsess this server from miles away
[01:23] <holstein> i usually just set up SSH and do passwords
[01:23] <holstein> but the server to the outside
[01:24] <holstein> thats not acccepting passwords
[01:24] <holstein> you have to have the key
[01:24] <holstein> and the pass for the key
[01:24] <philipballew> sounds doable
[01:24] <holstein> hey, if i can do it, you can :)
[02:11] <ash9> I have ubuntu on dual boot..But my wireless is not working...however ethernet works
[02:12] <ash9> does anybody know how to fix that?
[02:16] <holstein> ash9: 10.10?
[02:16] <ash9> yes
[02:17] <ash9> downloaded it a month before
[02:17] <holstein> ash9: wifi has never worked though right?
[02:17] <ash9> yes
[02:17] <ash9> never
[02:17] <holstein> OK
[02:17] <holstein> when you reboot the machine
[02:17] <holstein> with the network wired
[02:17] <ash9> k
[02:17] <holstein> does it have a popup about a restricted driver availalbe?
[02:18] <ash9> no
[02:18] <holstein> ash9: open up a terminal
[02:18] <ash9> k
[02:18] <holstein> and a web browser
[02:18] <holstein> go here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:18] <ash9> done!
[02:19] <holstein> and paste what you find when you run this in terminal
[02:19] <holstein> lspci
[02:19] <holstein> and give me the link
[02:20] <ash9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/597662/
[02:20] <thewrath> hey all
[02:20] <thewrath> i have the following set up
[02:22] <holstein> ash9: OK
[02:22] <holstein> i got news
[02:22] <holstein> http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/tag/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[02:22] <holstein> ^ check that out
[02:22] <holstein> however
[02:22] <holstein> i would probably try the windows driver
[02:23] <holstein> with ndiswrapper
[02:23] <holstein> since you are dual booting
[02:23] <holstein> and the driver you need is on the hard drive somewhere
[02:23] <holstein> and that just might work
[02:23] <thewrath> Internet -> Comcast Cable Modem -> Ethernet Hub -> Linksys WRT160N Router -> Wireless and Wiredd_Components
[02:23] <thewrath> I have an IDS connected to the Hub
[02:23] <holstein> ash9: eitherway, i would try upgrading the system
[02:23] <holstein> however you feel comfortable doing that
[02:23] <thewrath> but when I attempt to wireless connect to my router i get connected and an IP Address but no access to the internet
[02:23] <thewrath> any idea why
[02:24] <thewrath> if i am hard wired into the router it works fine
[02:24] <thewrath> why?
[02:24] <holstein> ash9: after te upgrade, reboot, and if wifi isnt working, i would try ndiswrapper, then that fix above
[02:24] <holstein> you can find ndis in any package manager
[02:24] <holstein> and you'll find it in the menu labeled 'windows drivers' or something similar
[02:25] <holstein> thewrath: just from linux?
[02:27] <ash9> holstein:  thank you so much
[02:27] <ash9> i will be goin over the recommendations you made!!
[02:27] <thewrath> holstein: what do you m ean?
[02:28] <holstein> ash9: let us know, there are other options if those dont work
[02:28] <holstein> thewrath: can you connect wirelessly with no issues from other devices? os's?
[02:28] <thewrath> wireless in linux yes but not in windows
[02:29] <holstein> hmmm
[02:29] <holstein> let me re-phrase
[02:29] <ash9> alright!!And if in case I couldn't get to you today, then will I be able to get back to you again by any chance
[02:29] <ash9> ?
[02:29] <holstein> seems like you are able to connect with linux
[02:29] <holstein> but not get to the internet
[02:29] <holstein> is this isolated to one machine?
[02:29] <thewrath> not sure as i only have 1 linux and 1 windows pc
[02:29] <holstein> do you have other boxes and/or os's you can try connecting wirelessly with
[02:29] <holstein> to make sure its not the AP that is the trouble?
[02:30] <thewrath> i can attempt to do it from my phone when ig et back to my place
[02:30] <thewrath> i will be back on sunday
[02:30] <holstein> ash9: you can ping me, if im around, i'll pipe up
[02:30] <thewrath> i am visiting my parents for Easter holiday and no access to that equipment from here
[02:30] <holstein> but everyone here is helpful ash9 :)
[02:30] <ash9> ohhk...but if you are not?
[02:31] <holstein> just remember what you did
[02:31] <ash9> hmm..thanks!
[02:31] <holstein> ash9: and
[02:31] <holstein> you can say, im having trouble with RaLink Device 5390 in 10.10
[02:31] <holstein> that'll get things moving a bit quicker i think
[02:31] <ash9> ohhk! great..;)
[02:32] <ash9> thnx
[02:32] <holstein> thewrath: i say, when you can, rule out that its not a router issue
[02:32] <thewrath> okay
[02:32] <holstein> then come back when you're near the gear
[02:32] <thewrath> i am running all of this at home lol
[02:32] <thewrath> just to see what i see coming into my network, etc
[02:34] <thewrath> holstein: have you run snort before
[02:35] <holstein> we had a presentation are our local LUG about it
[02:36] <holstein> and that was a build from scratch thing we all watched
[02:36] <holstein> but, i havent needed it
[02:36] <thewrath> ok
[02:36] <thewrath> know anyone in here that has run it?
[02:37] <holstein> nah
[02:38] <thewrath> where are you from holstein
[02:42] <thewrath> what is a good alternative to Microsoft visio?
[02:43] <holstein> thewrath: what are you trying to do?
[02:43] <thewrath> draw my network out
[02:43] <pleia2> the popular one is dia
[02:43] <pleia2> but you may be disappointed if you're looking for a "good alternative" - it's pretty minimal
[02:43] <thewrath> hey pleia2
[02:43] <thewrath> long time no see lol
[02:44] <pleia2> g'day thewrath
[02:44] <holstein> inkscape does vector graphics
[02:44] <ash9> I got this when I started my machine:"The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet"..How can I fix that?
[02:44] <holstein> ash9: i would just log out and back in
[02:44] <holstein> see if it still does it
[02:45] <ash9> kk...Is it a temporary error?
[02:45] <holstein> ash9: it has been for me in the past
[02:45] <ash9> does it come again when you relogged?
[02:45] <holstein> ash9: depends
[02:45] <ash9> k..what if it does?
[02:46] <holstein> ash9: try and not the exact error message
[02:46] <holstein> and we'll sort it out
[02:46] <ash9> ohhk..
[02:46] <holstein> or just take the trash applet out of the panel
[02:46] <ash9> that means..delete it?
[02:46] <holstein> i delete that 2nd panel usually
[02:47] <holstein> and dont use a trash applet
[02:47] <holstein> but im sure theres a fix
[02:47] <ash9> alright..thanx.
[02:48] <holstein> thewrath: looks like the newer visio versions run well in wine
[02:48] <holstein> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=119
[02:48] <thewrath> dont have visio at the moment lol
[02:50] <ash9> upgrading ubuntu?
[02:50] <Unguided> Hey guys. Im showing ubuntu to a friend of mine. i forget the command line to install kde from the terminal. can someone help me out ple
[02:51] <Unguided> *please
[02:51] <holstein> Unguided: are you wanting KDE and gnome?
[02:51] <holstein> or to move to KDE?
[02:51] <Unguided> I want to install both\
[02:52] <Unguided> i thought the command was sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[02:52] <holstein> i would check out sudo apt-cache search kde
[02:53] <Unguided> k. thanks
[02:53] <ash9> holstein:did you say upgrading ubuntu?
[02:53] <ash9> oops
[02:53] <holstein> ash9: i suggested that
[02:53] <holstein> in case a kernel upgrade would add funcionality for your wifi device
[02:53] <holstein> however you do it
[02:53] <holstein> with the upgrade utility
[02:54] <holstein> or synaptic
[02:54] <holstein> or in the CLI
[02:54] <ash9> well..this is the first time I am using Ubuntu
[02:54] <ash9> I have been using windows
[02:54] <ash9> can  you please gimme the link to that?
[02:54] <ash9> for the upgrade..
[02:54] <holstein> ash9: when you are online
[02:55] <holstein> there should be a little applet
[02:55] <holstein> running near the time
[02:55] <holstein> that says you have updates
[02:55] <holstein> or, just open a terminal and run..
[02:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[02:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:56] <ash9> both?
[02:56] <holstein> ash9: in the menu
[02:56] <ash9> or just the upgrade one?
[02:56] <holstein> under system
[02:56] <holstein> administration
[02:56] <holstein> theres an update manager
[02:56] <ash9> k
[02:56] <holstein> do that if you feel more comfortable with it :)
[02:57] <ash9> it shows me just one update..thats for adobe flash
[02:57] <holstein> ash9: there should be a refresh button
[02:57] <holstein> the button that says 'check'
[02:58] <ash9> k
[02:58] <ash9> already started with the adobe flash update ..so was waiting for that to finish
[02:58] <ash9> hmm...it says 92 updates!!
[02:59] <holstein> ash9: you should get in the habit of looking through them
[02:59] <holstein> before just htting the button
[03:00] <ash9> you are right...but I am not at all sure of what those are...
[03:00] <holstein> you dont need to
[03:01] <ash9> okay..so should I go ahead and update all?
[03:01] <holstein> i would
[03:01] <holstein> you should feel free to research more
[03:01] <holstein> if you want
[03:01] <holstein> and do what you feel comfortable with
[03:01] <ash9> okay.. thnx
[03:01] <holstein> but, uprgading a package or 2 can potentially add funcionality for your wifi
[03:02] <holstein> but, probably not with that particular device
[03:02] <ash9> hmm...I'll let you know whenever the updates are done...
[07:32] <stlsaint> back
[07:32] <stlsaint> o/
[08:07] <halpbatman> does anyone use e4rat? wanna help me set it up?
[08:08] <virgo> what is this
[08:10] <halpbatman> virgo, http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/
[08:10] <halpbatman> apparently speeds up boot
[08:10] <halpbatman> for ext4 file system
[08:12] <halpbatman> virgo, I got the deb. package from their website. but when I try to install it. it says "Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'ureadahead'
[08:12] <virgo> i am not the pro here, i am also a beginner lol
[08:13] <halpbatman> oh i see
[08:13] <virgo> but my oponion about installing all kind of things in ubuntu is to use the supported packages
[08:13] <virgo> with software center or apt-get install
[08:14] <virgo> else there can be unexpected conflicts
[08:18] <halpbatman> anyone knows how to disable ureadahead daemon?
[08:25] <virgo> are you sure your system does not need this ureadahead package?
[08:27] <bioterror> ureadahead  (über-readahead)  is  used  during  boot  to  read files in
[08:27] <bioterror>        advance of when they are needed such that they are already in the  page
[08:27] <bioterror>        cache, improving boot performance.
[08:28] <stlsaint> duanedesign: poke
[08:29] <duanedesign> stlsaint: yyyyes
[08:32] <stlsaint> duanedesign: i got man page working!!
[08:32] <stlsaint> small contribution from Kuwait!! lol
[08:33] <duanedesign> stlsaint: awesome
[08:33] <duanedesign> virgo: You can remove the error message by deleting the file /etc/init/ureadahead.conf.
[08:33] <duanedesign> oops
[08:33] <duanedesign> i mean halpbatman
[08:33] <stlsaint> duanedesign: question now is how do we package it with clic so it installs upon clic installtion
[08:34] <stlsaint> duanedesign: that much i havent figured out yet
[08:34] <stlsaint> duanedesign: unless another page is written to link to the gzip
[08:34] <duanedesign> halpbatman: but I would say you are going down a road that could lead to a reinstall :) This might help http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Getting_it_to_work
[08:34] <stlsaint> lol
[08:34] <duanedesign> stlsaint: hmmm, i am not sure
[08:34] <stlsaint> yellow brick road of re-install
[08:34] <duanedesign> :)
[08:35] <duanedesign> I have been there many times
[08:35] <stlsaint> duanedesign: same here, makes it alot easier to spot when someone else is heading there
[08:36] <duanedesign> stlsaint: i will need to see how to package the man page
[08:36] <stlsaint> duanedesign: aye
[08:36] <duanedesign> stlsaint: i really need to get busy if i am going to get this thing done in time to make Ubuntu-O
[08:37] <stlsaint> duanedesign: would you mind testing the page to ensure i just didnt hack my way to get it working on my system
[08:38] <duanedesign> yes i ccan do that
[08:38] <stlsaint> kk one sec
[08:40] <stlsaint> duanedesign: put this in a filed named clicompanion.1
[08:40] <stlsaint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/597760/
[08:40] <stlsaint> duanedesign: maybe we should move to -dev ;)
[08:41] <duanedesign> kk
[13:16] <kristian-work> hi ppl
[13:16] <kristian-work> considering putting Lubuntu on a box... with a danish keyboard and vietnamese language
[13:16] <kristian-work> would this be problematic, you think=
[13:16] <kristian-work> ?
[13:17] <nlsthzn-work> kristian-work: why not... all the hardware comes from China and thats all Greek to me
[13:19] <kristian-work> nlsthzn-work: yeah ;)
[13:19] <kristian-work> and good to see I'm not the only one with the "-work" suffix today
[13:20] <nlsthzn-work> ;) but seriously I have no idea if it will be an issue... confuse the hell out of the user but that should be all... yup... - work :/
[13:27] <math-herbert> hello, I am new here, i am register for th beginners-team, I have send the email to the intreduction. I want to know how many times after we send the introduction what we have the answer?
[13:27] <stlsaint> math-herbert: what answer you looking for?
[13:28] <kristian-work> I have US english for language and Danish keyboard... never felt confused... I guess GDM or whatever will leave the options open...
[13:28] <stlsaint> math-herbert: is your wiki page suppose to be blank?
[13:29] <math-herbert> yes i have not enough times to complet this
[13:30] <stlsaint> math-herbert: feel free to ask the wiki team if you need help on this
[13:30] <stlsaint> math-herbert: #ubuntu-beginners-wiki is the channel
[13:31] <math-herbert> oki thanks
[13:37] <stlsaint> math-herbert: dont you just hate connection issues
[13:37] <kristian-work> stlsaint: I *love* them
[13:38] <stlsaint> oh yea
[13:38] <stlsaint> fun fun
[13:39] <stlsaint> man clicompanion
[13:39] <stlsaint> crap wrong shell
[13:39] <kristian-work> fun fun, rock and roll high school
[13:54] <nlsthzn-work> a blank wiki page is awesome... it has the potential to hold so much in the future :p
[15:52] <oliver659756> hello
[15:52] <duanedesign> hello
[15:52] <oliver659756> can I get some advice on why my dual partitioned install of ubuntu and windows wont boot windows?
[15:52] <oliver659756> from the grub boot loader i select windows the screen goes blank and the boot loader screen appears again
[15:52] <oliver659756> ubuntu works fine though :/
[15:53] <oliver659756> any suggestions?
[15:53] <duanedesign> hmm, ok
[15:55] <oliver659756> ideas anyone?
[15:55] <duanedesign> oliver659756: yeah, i am looking for a guide
[15:56] <oliver659756> thanks
[15:56] <oliver659756> windows ran fine i installed ubuntu and now it doesnt boot
[15:57] <duanedesign> windows shows up in Grub though?
[15:58] <oliver659756> yeah
[15:58] <oliver659756> this is the grub config for the windows install
[15:58] <oliver659756> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1303567984081.jpg
[15:58] <oliver659756> (I asked for help on 4chan /g/ board also)
[16:00] <duanedesign> oliver659756: do you have windows7 or vista?
[16:00] <oliver659756> its vista as I only had a vista CD with me
[16:00] <oliver659756> so had to install vista
[16:05] <duanedesign> oliver659756: you used EasyBCD?
[16:06] <oliver659756> I dont know what that is so I dont think so, I partitioned the drive then installed windows from install disk, I then installed ubuntu from install disk on the other partition
[16:06] <oliver659756> windows booted when i first installed it
[16:06] <oliver659756> but after installing ubuntu it doesnt boot even when i select to boot it
[16:06] <oliver659756> it just reverts to the boot manager screen shown in the screen shot
[16:07] <holstein> oliver659756: do you see windows in the grub list?
[16:07] <oliver659756> yes, this is a photo of the grub list
[16:07] <oliver659756> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1303567984081.jpg
[16:07] <oliver659756> the bottom screen shot is the configuration it has for windows
[16:07] <duanedesign> oliver659756: sorry my bad I was looking at the wrong page
[16:07] <oliver659756> no problem the help is really appreciated
[16:08] <holstein> first thing i would do is boot ubuntu
[16:08] <holstein> and run sudo update-grub
[16:08] <holstein> then, i guess i would try re-installing grub with a live CD
[16:09] <oliver659756> i got advised to do that from someone else, I tried it and it didnt fix it when i rebooted :(
[16:10] <holstein> oliver659756: tried both?
[16:10] <oliver659756> how do i reinstall grub?
[16:10] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[16:10] <holstein> well, i would do it with a live CD
[16:10] <holstein> yeah...
[16:10]  * holstein high-fives duanedesign :)
[16:10] <holstein> that literally wont hurt anything
[16:11] <holstein> and its a good thing to learn how to do
[16:11]  * holstein BBL
[16:11] <oliver659756> ok so i need to use the ubuntu install cd?
[16:11] <oliver659756> and do what? (apologies for having no idea what im doing)
[16:12] <holstein> oliver659756: just check out that link
[16:12] <holstein> it'll talk you through booting from a live CD
[16:12] <holstein> and installing GRUB
[16:12] <holstein> or replacing GRUB
[16:12] <holstein> whatever you want to call it
[16:13] <oliver659756> oliver@computer:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[16:13] <oliver659756> [sudo] password for oliver:
[16:13] <oliver659756> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'.
[16:14] <duanedesign> ok
[16:14] <duanedesign> you replace the X with what is appropriatte for your computer
[16:15] <duanedesign> if you know which partition your Windows is on
[16:15] <duanedesign> otherwise you can run:  sudo fdisk -l
[16:16] <duanedesign> you will have a line like this:
[16:16] <duanedesign> /dev/sdb2           29115       30401    10333184    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:17] <oliver659756> warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
[16:17] <oliver659756> :x
[16:17] <duanedesign> no worries
[16:18] <duanedesign> no worries
[16:18] <duanedesign> ugh
[16:18] <duanedesign> hmm
[16:19] <oliver659756> should i post the result of sudo fdisk -l
[16:20] <duanedesign> can you put it in a pastebin
[16:21] <duanedesign> http://pastebin.ca/
[16:21] <oliver659756> http://pastebin.ca/2049781
[16:24] <duanedesign> ok it should be /dev/sda1
[16:24] <oliver659756> so i need to use the command sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda1
[16:24] <oliver659756> ?
[16:25] <duanedesign> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:25] <duanedesign> then the command:
[16:25] <oliver659756> sorry i just cleared the window
[16:25] <oliver659756> can you say the previous command
[16:25] <duanedesign> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[16:25] <duanedesign> no problem
[16:26] <duanedesign>  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:26] <duanedesign> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[16:26] <duanedesign> note the second command does not have the 1
[16:27] <oliver659756> oliver@computer:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:27] <oliver659756> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[16:27] <oliver659756> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[16:27] <oliver659756> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[16:28] <duanedesign> oliver659756: ok, you need to boot up and run Ubuntu from the livecd
[16:29] <oliver659756> ok, what do i do once i am running ubuntu from the live cd
[16:29] <duanedesign> i think the option from the CD menu is something like  'run Ubuntu without any changes to my computer'
[16:29] <duanedesign> Open a terminal by selecting Applications, Accessories, Terminal from the menu bar.
[16:30] <duanedesign> then run the commands:
[16:30] <duanedesign> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[16:30] <duanedesign> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[16:30] <oliver659756> ok thanks
[16:30] <oliver659756> i will try those
[16:31] <oliver659756> your help is appreciated btw
[16:31] <duanedesign> let us know how it goes
[16:31] <oliver659756> will do
[16:31] <oliver659756> bye bye
[16:48] <Unguided> Hello All. Does anyone know if you can install logical volume manager on the desktop installation of ubuntu?
[16:49] <Elric58> Greetings.  Just installed Server 10.10.  Want to connect to a dev server elsewhere via SSH and Tunnels.  Anyone have a clue how I can do this?
[16:58] <bioterror> Unguided, sure you can use LVM
[16:58] <bioterror> !lvm | Unguided
[16:58] <ubot2> Unguided: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:58] <Unguided> Okay. Thanks
[17:12] <Unguided> !lvm
[17:12] <ubot2> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:27] <duanedesign> Elric58: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[18:45] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[18:45] <kristian-aalborg> would it be waaaay to much work to install on one hdd, then move it to another box=
[18:45] <kristian-aalborg> ?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> Move the hard drive?
[18:48] <charlie-tca> I have done that and it worked well, but I don't have wireless either
[18:48] <charlie-tca> It gets confused by the video if you install the hardware driver and they are different (mine was nVidia to ATI)
[18:50] <kristian-aalborg> hi charlie-tca
[18:51] <kristian-aalborg> I plan on making the simplest install I can - no special drivers etc - then move it back and act like nothing happened
[18:52] <kristian-aalborg> but yeah, no wifi...
[18:52] <kristian-aalborg> can I plug the no-internet box to one with wifi and share it?
[18:53] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I am really not good with wifi at all
[18:53] <charlie-tca> it works or it don't. I can't seem to get farther than that
[18:53] <charlie-tca> where's holstein? He knows that stuff well
[18:54] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: ping
[18:54] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[19:06] <Elric58> thanks, duanedesign.
[19:26] <stlsaint> Elric58: poke
[19:27] <stlsaint> i saw the question on ssh, wondering if you got it resolved
[19:27] <Elric58> Well, I haven't tried it just yet.
[19:27] <Elric58> [12:27]	duanedesign	Elric58: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[19:27] <Elric58> I am reading up on it right now.
[19:28] <Elric58> Do you have a solution or are you looking to do the same thing as I am?
[19:29] <Elric58> stlsaint: My next issue with connecting to the dev server from my server is that the SSH connection is using public/private keys and not passwords.
[19:32] <seidos> that's funny, i just switched from passwords to keys on my server recently
[19:33] <stlsaint> Elric58: I love keys ;)
[19:33] <stlsaint> best authentication for ssh
[19:33] <Elric58> I agree.  I already have a key that I use on my netbook to connect.
[19:33] <stlsaint> Elric58: after your server gets attacked a good amount you will appreciate keys as well
[19:34] <Elric58> My question now is how to do it from my server.
[19:34] <stlsaint> Elric58: you want to connect to your server using ssh w/keys?
[19:34] <Elric58> I want to connect my server to the dev server with the code on it.
[19:35] <Elric58> Not sure if I need to, but I am trying to get a copy of the code onto my server.
[19:35] <stlsaint> hrm, what dev server are you talking about?
[19:35] <Elric58> It's for a game I am helping with.
[19:36] <stlsaint> so you want to use your server as part of another server for a game?
[19:36] <Elric58> Like I said, I am not sure I even need to do this.  I am very new to this whole deal.  Let's see if I can explain...
[19:37] <Elric58> There is a dev server for the game.  I can connect to it from my netbook and have full access to the code.
[19:37] <Elric58> I would like to be able to test things on my own server (which I just installed and have really no clue to what I am doing yet).
[19:38] <stlsaint> Elric58: alright so pull the code and put it on your own server
[19:38] <Elric58> So I guess that I really need to figure out how to connect to my own server from my netbook.
[19:38] <Elric58> Let me ask this, while I have your ear...
[19:39] <Elric58> Do you know how to connect with SSH and a tunnel from a Mac?
[19:40] <Elric58> On a PC it is easy with PuTTY
[19:40] <stlsaint> Elric58: i dont use a mac but the concept is still the same, now when you say ssh AND a tunnel it sounds like ssh via vpn. Is that what you are referring to?
[19:41] <stlsaint> Elric58: so you have a key set already made on your MAC?
[19:41] <stlsaint> Elric58: if so than you can just upload that key to your ~./ssh (or whatever name you will be on server, IE: /home/stlsaint/.ssh
[19:42] <stlsaint> sorry.......
[19:42] <stlsaint> /home/stlsaint/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[19:42] <stlsaint> Elric58: thats AFTER you install openssh on your server: sudo apt-get openssh-server
[19:42] <stlsaint> lol, FAIL
[19:43] <stlsaint> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:43] <stlsaint> (thats if you want to use openssh, though i HIGHLY recommend you do)
[19:43] <stlsaint> Elric58: you with me buddy?
[19:44] <Elric58> I am the poster child for the 'beginners' name of this channel!!  XD
[19:44] <Elric58> I am reading as you type.
[19:44] <stlsaint> =)
[19:44] <Elric58> Didn't want to spoil your flow.
[19:45] <stlsaint> no point in flowing if your not following ;)
[19:45] <Elric58> Who knew that 9+ years of sys admin work wouldn't help me at all with this stuff!!
[19:45] <stlsaint> ha, had i not run my in house server farm i wouldnt know this mess either, at one point i had to get some serious one-on-one time with my last mentor
[19:46] <Elric58> When I setup the ssh connection with PuTTY, there is a way to set up a tunnel.  I am assuming it is much like a vpn.
[19:46] <stlsaint> Elric58: truly there is no need unless you are trying to access a inside network, from a untrusted one
[19:46] <stlsaint> no need for vpn
[19:47] <stlsaint> you go trying to tunnel vpn's and ssh your just gonna get a slower connection, safe as hell, but slower
[19:47] <Elric58> Accessing the dev server, I have no choice since that's the way the lead dev wants it done.
[19:47] <stlsaint> BAH
[19:48] <stlsaint> tell him stlsaint said screw his tunnel ;)
[19:48] <Elric58> I think the tunnel might be more than just a vpn, but I am not positive on that.
[19:48] <Elric58> XD
[19:48] <stlsaint> what do you mean by tunnel? ssh encrypts everything from the connection to the data traveling thru it so what more is he asking for?
[19:49] <Elric58> Once I make the connection, I open up a browser window and connect to localhost with my tunnel source port and it's like I have my own version of the source to work on.
[19:50] <Elric58> You'll have to look this stuff up to get a good explanation.  I'm kind of guessing here.  It's an option in PuTTY.
[19:50] <Elric58> The lead dev helped me set it up and it's what he wants.
[19:51] <stlsaint> ok i get ya, so what is it that you are wanting to do with your server?
[19:51] <seidos> ssh and encapsulation?  Mein got, who do you work for, the NSA?
[19:51] <stlsaint> seidos: yep yep
[19:51] <stlsaint> seems to be that way
[19:51] <Elric58> I'm just wanting to use it to test any changes and stuff I do to the code before dumping it back to the dev server.
[19:52] <stlsaint> Elric58: ok, now is this source code hosted somewhere you can pull from, launchpad, github, etc etc
[19:52] <Elric58> It's a new game in the works and it is currently hosted on a not-so-private web server.
[19:53] <stlsaint> alright well tell the dev to send you the source or pull it from the server and put it on yours, like i said most config files should be the same minus all the networking stuff
[19:53] <Elric58> Not sure, stlsaint.
[19:54] <Elric58> Well, this has gone WAY beyond my original question, which is a good thing (I think).  XD
[19:54] <stlsaint> Elric58: yea i was just about to say, im not trying to be a jerk but im not seeing where the issue lies
[19:54] <Elric58> Last night was the first time I have even seen a Linux server, never mind worked with one.
[19:54] <stlsaint> Elric58: isnt it just great :D
[19:55] <Elric58> The issue is I don't really know what I am doing or what I need to be doing.
[19:55] <stlsaint> i worked with win server 2003/08 and even though they have roles which is great i still prefer a config file
[19:55] <Elric58> Just kind of pissing in the wind here!!  XD
[19:55] <stlsaint> Elric58: pm? (private message)
[19:55] <Elric58> sure
[19:59] <stlsaint> security security security :D
[20:00] <stlsaint> i do love a new server user :D
[20:00] <stlsaint> mind is like a sponge ready to soak everything up
[20:12] <martin__> complete rookie needs help...just installed ubuntu 10.10 on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop...went like a dream but max resolution is only 800x600. how can i increase it
[20:16] <stlsaint> martin__: you will probably need to install another driver or edit your xorg.conf
[20:17] <stlsaint> martin__: does 800x600 not the size to fit your screen?
[20:21] <martin__> does fit whole screen but everything seems "large" if that makes sense
[20:22] <stlsaint> screenshot?
[20:23] <Elric58> stlsaint: I be back.
[20:24] <stlsaint> welcome
[20:45] <UbuntuN00b> hey all i was trying to fix hibernate in ubuntu
[20:45] <UbuntuN00b> by installing uswsusp
[20:45] <UbuntuN00b> but it didn't work
[20:45] <UbuntuN00b> now i'm trying to uninstall it through terminal
[20:45] <UbuntuN00b> i used apt-get remove uswsusp
[20:46] <UbuntuN00b> but ut gave me : E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[20:46] <UbuntuN00b> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:46] <UbuntuN00b> any idea what i should be doing
[20:46] <UbuntuN00b> or is it because i didn't put sudo?
[20:46] <UbuntuN00b> before the original command
[20:46] <smeag0l> yes
[20:46] <smeag0l> maybe
[20:47] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: close the synaptic package manger you have open then run command again
[20:47] <smeag0l> UbuntuN00b,
[20:47] <UbuntuN00b> synaptic package manager?
[20:47] <stlsaint> oh yea you also need sudo
[20:47] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: sudo infront of the command
[20:48] <stlsaint> ssshhhh there is zach
[20:48] <UbuntuN00b> ahh okay looks like it is working
[20:48] <UbuntuN00b> thanks all
[20:48] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: you dont know what synaptic is?
[20:48] <UbuntuN00b> nope
[20:48] <UbuntuN00b> hence the n00b
[20:49] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: look in your system tab menu for it
[20:49] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: synaptic is the frontend to apt
[20:49] <UbuntuN00b> apt?
[20:49] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: it gives you a graphical way to see all application installed and all that are in the repository
[20:49] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: :|
[20:49] <UbuntuN00b> oh you mean the software centre
[20:49] <UbuntuN00b> it wasn't open
[20:49] <UbuntuN00b> its called synaptic then
[20:50] <stlsaint> UbuntuN00b: oh yea, sorry about that, i still prefer synaptic
[20:50] <UbuntuN00b> kk
[20:50] <stlsaint> yes the software center
[20:50] <UbuntuN00b> good to know :)
[20:51] <stlsaint> aye
[20:51] <stlsaint> have fun welcome to Ubuntu!! :D
[20:51] <UbuntuN00b> haha i have been
[20:54] <kristian-aalborg> hi, please help me in this scenario: I'm installing (L)Ubuntu for somebody who's best at vietnamese... this is a danish pc w/ danish keyboard... I'd like the Luser to have to most comfortable setup o/c, but I can only do support in danish or english... what's the clever way around this?
[20:54] <UbuntuN00b> i don't suppose anyone here is running ubuntu desktop on an aspire netbook and has been able to make hibernate work properly
[20:57] <seidos> suspend is so low power, i find i never use hibernate anymore
[20:57] <UbuntuN00b> is there viet. support videos on youtube? or can you remote in and just show them visually how to do thigs?
[20:57] <UbuntuN00b> ahh ok
[20:58] <seidos> i think it uses like 1 or 2 watts, which i think is worth the speed advantage
[20:58] <UbuntuN00b> its not a huge deal in either case, just suspends runs hotter so i don't like to transport when its like that
[20:59] <UbuntuN00b> hibernate (at least on my other laptop) runs cool
[20:59] <seidos> find someone that speaks vietnamese?  unless you want to learn vietnamese
[20:59] <seidos> suspend runs hot?  that doesn't sound right
[20:59] <seidos> suspend runs cool on my laptop
[21:00] <seidos> are you sure it isn't just taking time to cool off after use?
[21:00] <UbuntuN00b> yeah but if you throw it in a laptop case for a bit it gets hot quick
[21:00] <UbuntuN00b> where hibernate basically shuts the laptop off
[21:00] <seidos> yeah, that is a mystery to me
[21:01] <seidos> i don't see how 2 watts would cause an increase in temperature
[21:01] <seidos> i guess because it's a netbook?
[21:01] <UbuntuN00b> it may notbe working properyl... ubuntu and suspend/hibernate and netbooks it touch and go
[21:01] <UbuntuN00b> yeah its a netbook
[21:01] <seidos> well, i'm not sure if there is something you can do about the acpi software
[21:02] <UbuntuN00b> yeah its not a huge deal. i look into it some  more lots of threads about it
[21:03] <seidos> perhaps it's a bios setting
[21:06] <UbuntuN00b> hmmm possibly but even if it was there no option. netbook bios are pretty limited in options
[21:20] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: you there?
[21:51] <saras> need help with chown
[21:51] <duanedesign> hello
[21:51] <saras> what up m8
[21:52] <saras> how do i change the perseission of a new formated ext drive
[21:53] <saras> sudo chown "user" "drive" right
[21:53] <saras> oh how should i put that drive part in their
[21:55] <duanedesign> it is...
[21:56] <duanedesign> yes that is right if you are only changing the owner and not the group
[21:56] <saras> sudo chown -R saras.saras '/media/mine' i tried this why did it not work
[21:57] <saras> that the mount point and the volume is named mine
[21:57] <duanedesign> saras:saras
[21:59] <saras> i tried no work
[22:00] <duanedesign> sudo chown -R saras:saras /media/mine
[22:00] <duanedesign> did not work
[22:00] <saras> nope it didn't
[22:02] <saras> wtf it did
[22:04] <duanedesign> might also want to do:  sudo chmod -R 755 /media/mine
[22:05] <saras> i got m8
[22:05] <saras> i did it in the gui
[22:05] <duanedesign> nice!
[22:06] <duanedesign> saras: this is a great Ubuntu wiki page to boomark FWIW https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[22:07] <duanedesign> s/boomark/bookmark
[22:07] <saras> bye the way someone to add the chown to gparted
[22:07] <saras> i forgot the add it their
[22:07] <saras> need
[22:08] <saras> ps any smart about icc profiles
[22:10] <saras> thanks duanedesign
[22:12] <duanedesign> your very welcome
[23:06] <hoss> Need help getting Aspire One built-in mic to show up in Sound Preferences.
[23:33] <duanedesign> hoss: what version of Ubuntu?
[23:41] <duanedesign> hoss: might check and see if any of this is helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[23:57] <Average_Guy> can anyone HERE tell me how to get the the drivers nessessary to enable wireless WITHOUT an ethernet connection - ie. connect to a public network using windoze to get what I need and then make it work in linux?
[23:59] <hoss> Thanks, I will check it out and I am running 10.109
[23:59] <hoss> 10.10