[14:24] <veger> bug 660721
[14:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 660721 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "krdc - vnc - on meerkat has inverted colors (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660721
[14:25] <veger> at comment #3 it is said that an upgrade to KDE 4.5.3 should fix the problem, should I set the status to "fix commited" or "fix released"?
[14:25] <veger> the difference seems a bit vagie to me
[14:25] <veger> *vague
[14:27] <charlie-tca> Did you test it to see if it is now fixed for Kubuntu?
[14:27] <veger> not yet, I need to wait till Tuesday efoer I can test it
[14:27] <veger> *before
[14:30] <charlie-tca> According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status, fixed-released is reserved for If a bug is fixed in the current development release,
[14:30] <charlie-tca> If it is not tested and verified as fixed in development release yet, it will be fix-committed
[14:32] <trinikrono> goodmornings
[14:32] <veger> So if I understand correctly: in this case it is fix-committed and when I am able to test it on Tuesday it will (hopefully) become fix-released?
[14:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[14:33] <veger> ok, thanks for the info!
[14:33] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[14:33] <charlie-tca> trinikrono: Good morning
[14:34] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: did you notice a master bug for odp files not opening with impress in natty, i have found a few dupes
[14:34] <charlie-tca> I haven't seen it, but I have not been very active lately, either
[14:34] <trinikrono> him
[14:35] <trinikrono> i think the master bug is bug 752814
[14:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 752814 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "Impress not the default app for ODP documents (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 34)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752814
[14:35] <trinikrono> and i will show you the dupes i saw
[14:35] <trinikrono> bug 764251
[14:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764251 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "odp-files are opened with evince since upgrade to Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764251
[14:36] <trinikrono> and bug 750083
[14:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 750083 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 11.04; odps are defaulting to be opened by document viewer and failing (affects: 1) (heat: 237)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750083
[14:36] <trinikrono> did i get it right lol?
[14:37] <charlie-tca> looks right to me
[14:38] <charlie-tca> good work on that!
[14:38] <trinikrono> :D
[14:38] <trinikrono> i was working on a more interesting bug and got side tracked
[14:40] <charlie-tca> That happens often for me
[14:42] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: if i mark a bug as a duplicate, would i need to subscribe to the bug also?
[14:43] <charlie-tca> not really
[14:43] <charlie-tca> it generates a lot of email, normally
[14:43] <trinikrono> ok because i did not
[14:44] <charlie-tca> We will track you down if need be. We know where you hang out on IRC
[14:44] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: are you good at understanding stacktraces?
[14:44] <charlie-tca> Depends on the trace
[14:45] <charlie-tca> I can understand some of them, but not all of them
[14:45] <trinikrono> i am looking at bug 763433
[14:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 763433 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/763433
[14:45] <trinikrono> and i was looking to see if it was a dupe
[14:48] <charlie-tca> stacktrace is invalid
[14:48] <charlie-tca> have it tested to see if it reproduces in natty now
[14:49] <charlie-tca> We are testing the final images, and that was reported in beta2
[14:49] <charlie-tca> If it can be reproduced, we need a valid backtrace done
[14:50] <trinikrono> wait, so that no symbol table info availible
[14:50] <trinikrono> means the stackstrace is invalid charlie-tca?
[14:52] <veger> bug 730691
[14:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 730691 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ksnapshot doesn't send to gwenview (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730691
[14:52] <veger> I think its importances needs to be set at Low, could anyone take a look at it?
[14:54] <charlie-tca> trinikrono: yes, the "no symbol table info available" means the debugging symbols were not installed. Since there is no apport backtrace for it, the reporter will need to try and get one
[14:55] <charlie-tca> veger: I have to defer to someone more familiar with Kubuntu for that
[14:56] <trinikrono> so apport tried to run a backstrace without debugging symbols?
[14:56] <charlie-tca> nope
[14:56] <charlie-tca> apport doesn't run backtraces, the apport team does
[14:57] <trinikrono> i believe i found the master bug 740765
[14:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 740765 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "nautilus crash: assertion failed: (NAUTILUS_IS_VIEW (view)) with overlay-scrollbar (affects: 54) (dups: 33) (heat: 429)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740765
[14:57] <charlie-tca> Most of the time you see the report as this one is, with additional "Stacktrace retraced.txt" and "ThreadstackTrace"
[14:57] <trinikrono> it has a lot of dupes
[14:57] <trinikrono> i found 2 other bugs that have the same thing as this one
[14:58] <charlie-tca> MIght be. I can not verify a dup without comparing the stacktrace, and if it is invalid...
[14:58] <trinikrono> aha
[14:58] <charlie-tca> It might well be they are dups
[14:58] <charlie-tca> Maybe comparing some of the other logs will help.
[15:02] <trinikrono> so i should tell the reporter to run a install the debugging symbols and run a stacktrace manually
[15:02] <trinikrono> and set to imcomplete
[15:05] <charlie-tca> or compare the rest of the logs to see if you can determine it is a duplicate. If it is fixed on the other bug, this might be too.
[15:09] <trinikrono> well the other bugs have different things in the xsession logs
[15:09] <trinikrono> so i am guessing its no the same thing
[15:12] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: that bug will apport automatically do the retrace?
[15:17] <charlie-tca> no
[15:19] <charlie-tca> the ones that apport team retraces are tagged "needs-retrace"
[15:21] <trinikrono> so charlie-tca ask the reporter to run his own trace or the apport team
[15:22] <charlie-tca> the reporter
[15:25] <trinikrono> whats the difference between a backtrace and stacktrace?
[15:26] <charlie-tca> none for our purposes
[15:30] <trinikrono> okie i asked for a backtrace and set to imcomplete
[18:45] <penguin42> does anyone understand what went wrong on bug 769228 ? I changed the bug from ubuntu->xorg and asked the user to run run apport-collect and it's not added anything useful
[18:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769228 in xorg (Ubuntu) "natty doesn't start (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769228
[18:59] <H4VK> hi, are you guys able to change the title of a bug report?
[18:59] <H4VK> specifically, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/769539
[19:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769539 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "scroll bar doesn't refresh (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[19:00] <H4VK> i'm also getting the bug but the title of the submission is absolutely awful
[19:00] <charlie-tca> Most report titles can be changed by clicking the yellow pencil at the end of the title
[19:01] <charlie-tca> After the change, click the green check mark to save it
[19:01] <H4VK> im not a bugcontrol member, i can only change the text of the bug report
[19:01] <charlie-tca> what should it be?
[19:02] <H4VK> hmm, something like "volume slider for sound files drawing issue" ?
[19:02] <charlie-tca> penguin42: looks like the reporter ran apport-collect before the change happened
[19:05] <charlie-tca> H4VK: changed
[19:05] <H4VK> sweet, thanks
[19:06] <charlie-tca> penguin42: no, that was wrong.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> I don't really know why it did not collect more information with xorg. Maybe it needs something like xserver-xorg, but I don't know for sure.
[19:08] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Odd isn't it
[19:11] <joseph_ubuntu> hello  anyone here?
[19:11] <H4VK> hi
[19:12] <joseph_ubuntu> I have a bug in 11.04, is this the place to ask?
[19:12] <penguin42> joseph_ubuntu: #ubuntu+1 really, but hey what's the bug
[19:13] <joseph_ubuntu> My screen freeze and shows colorful lines (not blank or black screen)
[19:13] <penguin42> sounds like a graphics driver bug
[19:14] <penguin42> joseph_ubuntu: Does it do it immediately at boot or after some time or when you do something in particular?
[19:14] <joseph_ubuntu> It's intel graphics 915
[19:14] <joseph_ubuntu> It happened two times, I was using my computer doing someting,
[19:15] <joseph_ubuntu> It's not during boot or immediately after
[19:15] <penguin42> joseph_ubuntu: OK, so the best thing to do is to run ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg  and it should take you through reporting a bug
[19:15] <joseph_ubuntu> Ok. thanks
[19:16] <penguin42> joseph_ubuntu: It'll probably be more stable if you run in ubuntu classic and turn off desktop effects - it stresses the graphics drivers less
[19:16] <joseph_ubuntu> I'l try that.
[22:13] <trinikrono> penguin42: when i had to report a xorg bug i used ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-savage
[22:17] <H4VK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/769628 - is this a bug or a feature? see my comment at the bottom
[22:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769628 in unity (Ubuntu) "Irregular launcher sliding animation when moving the mouse pointer over the BFB (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:22] <trinikrono> for real we need to ask someone from unity H4VK
[22:25] <H4VK> where could I get in touch with someone from unity? very new to everything round here
[22:26] <mainerror> H4VK, join #ayatana
[22:27] <H4VK> ah, thanks
[22:59] <penguin42> trinikrono: Except I was told not to get people to report against the speciifc ones, but to get people to report against xserver-xorg possibly and then move it
[23:16] <trinikrono> yes they normally like to move them themselves
[23:16] <trinikrono> ubuntu-bug xorg should be good enough