[00:40] ok i'm back... short of upgrading to mythtv .24 or re-installing entire mythbuntu 10.10, is there anything I can do to fix the existing installation? I'm referring to schema matching error. [00:48] Something like get to mysql prompt and reset database somehow? [00:54] couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3B22AB97AF1CDFA9 [00:56] not sure if that breaks me trying to do .24 [01:16] Hello, I upgraded o .24. Now, I get mo pnp and unable to login when running backend setup. My DB PW, ip address are ok, and did not change during upgrade. [01:32] NM, thinks working, ick, all my channels gone... [12:33] !help [12:33] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [13:57] hello, i'm troubleshooting my myth .24 upgrade, and get this when trying to update synaptic: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3B22AB97AF1CDFA9 [14:07] hey dude [14:07] follow the instructions on adding the ppa [14:08] I did but that was last night. [14:08] well you didnt do it right [14:09] is totally wrong [14:09] http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick release [14:09] which ppa???? [14:11] FYI, I had a 10.1o .23 system running perfectly for weeks. One fe/be box, other frontends able to connect, etc. Then I accidently let loose a .24 on another distro on the network, and I think it mated with my mythbuntu and corrupted everything. [14:12] So I've been working with .24 upgrade, and seems to work with localhost 127.0.0.1, but not my 192.168.2.8 fe/be box, if I can fix that I may be ok. [14:12] [127.0.0.1] arctangent.net [14:13] mysql.txt, in etc, and user seem ok [14:14] but fe can't login to be unless I use localhost stuff [14:15] running mythfrontend in term I see empty hostname, but my prompt in term shows my box. [14:16] mycoDA, to answer your question, .24ppa [14:18] I may have missed some config file to set my ip and database PW it seems. [14:19] could someone list the conf files I should check, such as /.mythtv/mysql.txt, etc? [14:21] I tried the bind-address (used to be skip networking), etc [14:22] Well, I have a spare hard drive, would be quicker to re-install 10.10 I guess, and dump my recordings in later. [14:23] I wish mythbuntu didn't dump everything in one partition. [14:23] I'm used to / and /home partitions where OS can be repaired independently. [14:25] just add the mythbuntu repos [14:25] !repo [14:25] Sorry I don't know about repo [14:25] !ppa [14:25] With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. [14:25] grr [14:26] hehe [14:26] http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds [14:26] [www.mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Repositories | Mythbuntu [14:26] I think I'm just going to plop in my new 500GB drive. [14:27] install that http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/mythbuntu-repos.deb [14:27] then you will be able to choose 0.24 in mythbuntu control center [14:27] ok, i'll give it another shot. [14:27] I just finished all my channel listings scans etc...again [14:27] grr [14:28] mycoDA: i chose .24 in the control center last night... [14:28] so dont scan, download lol [14:28] dunno what you have done then [14:29] only config file is the mysql.txt [14:29] No I mean I had everything working on the local box, even my recordings, I just lost the 192.168.2.8 access on the network. The box can't even find itself. [14:29] the rest is done in database [14:30] and I can't get /mythweb running. [14:30] for obvious reason. [14:30] sounds like mysql is totally and utterly trashed [14:30] so you should restore your backup [14:30] mysql.txt and mysql.cfg or something too. [14:31] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore [14:31] [www.mythtv.org] Database Backup and Restore - MythTV Official Wiki [14:31] POO, I was hours away from clonezilling my perfect system when the other distro trashed the thing. [14:31] myth can only run with the same version [14:31] is kinda the point of versioning [14:31] I know, that is what happened. [14:32] you could even have told it not to upgrade the database on the other machine, no i dea why you let it [14:33] I was playing with .24 on another box on the network, not even wanting to see the mythbuntu box, but I think the .24 thought the .23 box was its BE, and messed it up. [14:33] you had to have told it to upgrade the database [14:33] and there can only be ONE master backend on the network [14:33] I might have, but not on porpoise.. [14:34] So as one last try, can I just use synaptic to uninstall and re-install myth? [14:34] how would mysql have got stuffed outside the database??? [14:35] you shouldnt need to - you need to recreate mythconverg [14:35] you should have a backup - myth wont let you upgrade the schema without making one [14:35] I'll give it a shot, how do I start, or just point me to a link, don't want to bug you. [14:35] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore [14:35] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore [14:35] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore [14:35] [www.mythtv.org] Database Backup and Restore - MythTV Official Wiki [14:36] [www.mythtv.org] Database Backup and Restore - MythTV Official Wiki [14:36] [www.mythtv.org] Database Backup and Restore - MythTV Official Wiki [14:36] The original complaint was wrong schema anyway. [14:36] I don't have anything to restore from' [14:37] well I do, but its from .23 in december [14:37] * nerdful_things reads wiki [14:38] ooh, the hostname part looks interesting [14:44] mythconverg_restore.pl --change_hostname --old_hostname="XXXX" --new_hostname="YYYY" [14:44] I get command not found [14:44] using sudo [14:48] probly need mysql prompt... [14:54] hmnn hosts.allow is an item of interest [15:09] glad I didn't change that, just found problem... [15:10] port 6543 was blank in setup. The prompt said "don't change" so I assumed it was blank. [15:11] Thanks for your time, mycoDA [15:11] ack [15:11] np sorry i wasnt more help [15:11] quitting somking - addled brain [15:11] Now for sound.. the optical and dolby digital light up on receiver, but no sound, checking controls.' [15:13] VDPAU and stuff look good for video, I had to use nvidia driver from nvidia site, and the upgrade left that intact. [15:15] drat, don't remember having sound problems... [15:15] prolly need to enable te optical out [15:15] optical seems ok [15:15] *digital out [15:15] receiver sees carrier, dolby dig, etc. [15:15] as in - enable it in myth [15:15] enable it in myth [15:15] in settings-general [15:16] checking alsa setup again... [15:16] will need to set it to the appropriate output [15:48] gettin anywhere? [15:50] just connected analog [15:50] sound ok [15:51] I'll play with optical later, sure it is ok... [15:51] speaker-test -c 6 -D surround51 -t wav [15:51] will test output [15:52] change surround51 to the appropriate output [15:52] I tried a laptop, and am getting the schema thing, so going to re-install 10.10 frontend on it then upgrade to .24. I just did a control center backup to a separate partition on the drive. [15:52] aplay -L [15:52] will show device options [15:53] ok, i'll play with the sound while ur here... [15:53] yeah you need to make sure you have the exact same version on all [15:53] iec958 would be digital out for me [15:53] important thing is to have backend recording, need it for WAF, cooking show recording now... [15:53] fair one [15:54] shouldnt need to restart [15:54] yeah, ac97, iec etc, looks the same as before, will try your above checks... I'm used to alsaconf in other distro. [15:54] yeah, but you need to find the one that is digital [15:55] like i said for me it is iec958 [15:55] iec958:CARD=CK804,DEV=0 [15:55] hold on, just need another cuppacoffee, then I'll try [15:55] yep, had ck804 listed... [15:55] nvidia motherboard eh [15:56] iec958 = spdif [15:56] need to set it to that in myth [15:56] but for now - speaker-test -c 6 -D iec958 -t wav [15:56] should tell you if digital is working from alsa [15:57] make sure the amp is on digital in of course lol [15:58] if that works then go into myth in settings -> general and on the audio page hit detect, and then on the line unerneath choose iec958:CARD=CK804,DEV=0 [15:59] if not well then there is plenty to check lol [15:59] http://alsa.opensrc.org/DigitalOut [15:59] [alsa.opensrc.org] DigitalOut - ALSA wiki [16:00] where do you see "detect? [16:00] oh, wait... [16:02] no, not in frontend/setup/audio systems the usual dolby, dts stuff is there and checked [16:03] the top line of that is a pressbutton [16:03] under that is a line where you enter device name [16:03] change it from alsa:default [16:04] to: [16:05] it wants alsa:default [16:06] oh it just popped up 804... [16:07] you want it to be the one with iec958 in it [16:07] or spdif i spose [16:08] funny always used the default with optical before... [16:08] odd [16:08] what chipset you have? [16:08] ac97 [16:09] motherboard chipset lol [16:09] ac97 isnt a chipset at all btw [16:09] checking controls, oh, i haven't tried your above commands [16:09] nvidia [16:09] speaker-test -c 6 -D iec958 -t wav [16:09] northbridge etc [16:09] that will test the connection [16:09] amd [16:09] which one? [16:09] i have an nforce4 sli and an nforce430 [16:10] nforce something [16:10] AMD both of em [16:10] Old Mythic Dragon box [16:10] MSI board [16:10] original phenom? [16:10] mine is just athlon 64 x2 [16:11] got a frontend with sempron64 3800+ too [16:11] fergot, circa 2004 3.x a64 [16:11] wow, so single core socket 478? [16:11] or 939? [16:12] Was a Knoppmyt commercial sales product Knoppmyth reference system. [16:12] 939 [16:12] cool [16:12] i started on knoppmyth years back too lol [16:12] seduced by the dark side [16:13] ick, I very reluctantly just set up a discarded vista box to get netflix etc with fraking DRM crap requirementgs [16:13] did you consider a VM? [16:13] going too. [16:13] openbox or the like [16:14] jus xp under it? [16:14] need a solid BE then I'll play around.. [16:14] or win7 starter? [16:14] you an aussie? [16:14] This is a Vista box, but I have w7 upgrade licenses around, but it seems to work ok so far. [16:15] ewwwwwww [16:15] oops I'm tytping on my dragon, the vista box has MCE in it which vudu, netflix require. [16:16] no, all my myth stuff is on the amd dragon here [16:16] yeah - w7 is much nicer, what vista should have been, bout 20% faster [16:16] where are you from? [16:16] I dual boot everything only use w7 when absolutely needed. [16:16] usa [16:17] why??? ditch vista for 7 [16:17] aussie here [16:17] 1am lol [16:17] My favorite distro is PCLinuxOS, but mythbuntu seems the most polished for mythtv [16:17] go to bed, easter bunny will not come and take your teeth under pillow. [16:17] i would prolly get lynched, but i really like suse [16:18] gonna set up for fianceee - waitin for her 2 snooz [16:18] In fact I've been helping get mythtv going on PCLinuxOS as a tester, is how I hosed my LAN [16:19] ahhh [16:19] next time remember one database per network [16:19] shouldnt impair you to make a slave backend [16:20] I also am playing with Sara, I was about to get her going, with LinuxMCE, but am putting my trust in mythbuntu for the main BE [16:21] Yeah, I never intended for the PCLinuxOS myth master BE to get away from me [16:21] sara? [16:22] ok, back to sound, then I notice the video is jerky, even with vdpau enabled.. sigh, everything was just perfect 24 hours ago... [16:22] crap [16:22] what gpu? [16:22] what playback profile? [16:22] Sara is the "host" that walks you through setting up the LinuxMCE home automation system, which has Mythtv in it also... [16:23] linuxmce.org. [16:23] [linuxmce.org] Welcome to LinuxMCE [16:23] hehe [16:23] zinn [16:23] Hi nerdful_things, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. [16:24] lookin forward to all my new stuff comin [16:24] specially the ssds [16:24] I had to install the driver direct from nvidia, I don't even remember how I did it. [16:24] and the headphones [16:24] and the wireless n [16:24] i hope u didnt use the nvidia download on ubuntu????? [16:25] or at least not on 10.04 or later lol [16:25] I did and it was only way to get vdau working perfectly [16:26] speaker-test 1.0.23 [16:26] Playback device is iec958 [16:26] Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 6 channels [16:26] WAV file(s) [16:26] Channels count (6) not available for playbacks: Invalid argument [16:26] Setting of hwparams failed: Invalid argument [16:26] pcluser@dragon-mythbuntu:~$ [16:26] hmnn [16:27] sorry my fault [16:27] doesnt do dts [16:27] speaker-test -c 2 -D iec958 -t wav [16:29] it thinks it is testing... [16:29] no sound or dolby light [16:30] is the reciever on digital? [16:30] shouldnt be a dolby light [16:30] yes, but i'll worry about sound later, more concerned video is not right. [16:30] if no sound, 1st thing to do is run alsamixer and check it is not muted and is turned op [16:31] check s/pdif isnt muted in there [16:33] well answer the qs i asked before [16:33] ? [16:33] what gpu? what playback profile [16:34] its a card that was not likely to work, but the driver fixed it.. geforce 8800gt i think [16:35] u didnt download a driver from nvidia did u? on ubuntu? [16:35] pretty sure ur not sposed to do that anymore [16:35] incompatibility [16:35] yes, that is what got it working perfectly, I know it was out of repo\ [16:35] I knew that [16:35] ohhh, was the ppa, not from nvidia [16:36] phew [16:36] wish i had clonezillad then... [16:36] no it was direct from nvidia [16:36] prolly should find u that ppa [16:37] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-nvidia-25635-display.html [16:37] [www.webupd8.org] How To Install nVidia 270.18 / 270.26 Display Drivers In Ubuntu (From A PPA Repository) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [16:37] https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa [16:38] looks like i should just re-instll 10.10 or sara [16:38] [launchpad.net] Nvidia Vdpau Team PPA : âNvidia Vdpau Teamâ team [16:38] I have a new 500GB drive sitting here [16:39] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates is the ppa [16:39] [launchpad.net] X Updates : âUbuntu-Xâ team [16:39] that is where u can get more recent nvidia drivers for ubuntu [16:40] i'm copying the good chat stuff from you anyway. [16:40] thanks [16:40] there is good stuff?? [16:40] well the stuff i tryed, and will try [16:40] what kind of display? analog? [16:41] I am waiting on a gf 9900 card anyway to arrive. [16:41] DLP [16:41] 9900?? no such thing [16:41] 9800 maybe [16:41] how is it connected [16:41] 9800 and 8800 are the same thing really lol [16:41] ATM as HDMI [16:41] g92 vs g92a [16:41] hdmi should be east [16:41] *easy [16:41] was a BFG card [16:42] got sync to opengl enabled in tv options - playback? [16:42] One in now was just temporary, but the nvidia driver got it running ok with vdpau. [16:42] tried sync [16:43] http://www.thedigitalmachine.net/alsaequal.html for future ref, pretty cool [16:43] [www.thedigitalmachine.net] the digital machine [16:43] try that ppa [16:43] you may want to underclock that gpu btw pretty massively [16:43] i have my 9600GT at half speed [16:44] mycosys@mycomyth:~$ cat ~/.xsessionrc [16:44] #! /bin/bash [16:44] nvidia-settings -a GPUOverclockingState=1 -a [gpu:0]/GPU2DClockFreqs=300,450 -a GPU3DClockFreqs=300,450 -a [gpu:0]/GPUPowerMizerMode=1 [16:45] will need to enable coolbits in /etc/X11/xorg.conf too [16:45] ohhh is compositing off in xorg.conf? [16:45] that is a big cause o flicker iirc [16:48] http://pastebin.com/x1CrTK5G is my xorg.conf nerdful_things [16:48] [pastebin.com] xorg.conf - Pastebin.com [16:49] Section "Extensions" [16:49] Option "Composite" "Disable" [16:49] EndSection [16:49] is the critical bit [16:50] just a sec [16:51] Option "ConnectToAcpid" "false" [16:52] is another - tells it not to use powermiser so it stays at one clock freq [16:52] changing clock freq can be a cause of flicker [17:06] http://pastebin.com/pYEAN64g [17:06] [pastebin.com] # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xco - Pastebin.com [17:11] OK, I had sound, then lost it, but will get it back.. I also have good video, i set vdpau to slim and it is fine. [17:11] but I will probably keep getting yelled at during updates for not having a repo approved nvidia driver installed. [17:12] I think I accidentally had it set to slim without vdpau. [17:12] But I was working on sound, so wasn't checking... [17:15] Ok, thanks mycoDA , I'm going to run it for awhile and clonezilla or ghost or dd it. then I'll play with using the approved nvidia stuff. [17:16] you shouldnt need slim - you have plenty of kick for the best one [17:16] well, that seemd to glitch before.. [17:16] welcome mate [17:16] odd - you shouldnt have an issue with advanced2x deinterlacing [17:16] I need to reflow my 9xxx card then try it later [17:17] make sure you use that composite off setting [17:17] may be the cause of that issue [17:17] Hmnn maybe i'll look now... [17:17] also the connect to acpid thing [17:18] prevent it going into powersave - you can downclock it later to a stable clock that saves power [17:18] Is that in the normal gui settings or do i have to edit some conf files? [17:18] xorg .conf [17:18] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [17:18] ok [17:20] will need to restart x [17:20] sudo service gdm restart [17:22] strange [17:23] ? [17:23] my machine just locked up [17:23] i'm on the laptop [17:23] strange indeed [17:23] iwasn't playing mythfrontend or anything... [17:23] i noticed i had quit, while here on laptop [17:24] guess i'll ssh in and reboot it [17:24] dont reboot [17:24] if u can ssh in just restart x [17:24] it is frozen, ok, now what? [17:24] sudo service gdm restart [17:24] ok [17:25] if that doesnt work, find gdm in ur process list and kill -9 it [17:25] ohoh no route to host [17:25] wow [17:25] that doesnt happen often [17:26] whole machine is frozen, alt tab even KB numlock on/off doesn't change. [17:28] power surge, or overheat [17:29] or any number of other things [17:29] had an issue with a gpu fan that would do that [17:29] never had hdwr prob. [17:29] huge fans in ps cpu [17:29] lol lucky you [17:30] this is even an aftermarket cooler zalman vf700alcu [17:30] manual cpu fan adj at min always enough [17:30] may not be on a hot day or in a hot case [17:30] HTPC case [17:31] and? [17:31] that is like saying metal case [17:32] true [17:32] most htpc cases are designed for noise rather than airflow [17:32] it's a nice silverstone case [17:33] temps are fine, huge cpu cooler, 5" psu fan etc. [17:33] large slow fans [17:33] high airflow, but quiet [17:35] fair one [17:35] Anyway, I'm going to offload any stuff here and clonezilla it to 2nd drive [17:36] fair one [17:36] video is fine for now with vdpau slim on. [17:36] Wife has tin eyes anyway [17:37] Rare to find female vid/audiophile [17:37] rofl like lead ears eh [17:37] cant say i disagree there [17:37] no idea why [17:37] but she gets upset if i put catsup on potatos... [17:38] srs?????? [17:38] i would get upset if u did that to my stirfrys or spaghetti or something, but go nuts on meat an 3 veg [17:40] Hey while here, what's a good file manager for 'buntu? I would like something that would mount at will by uuid or lable etc. [17:40] no idea tbh [17:40] thunar is the standard one [17:40] hal should do automounting [17:42] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Disabling_the_Composite_Extension is the composite thing i was talkin about - is well known u need it to get rid of judder [17:42] [www.mythtv.org] VDPAU - MythTV Official Wiki [17:43] ok, thanks mycoDA [17:43] np m8 [17:46] I always have problems knowintg what spare drives and partitions I have in box, without doing fstab stuff etc. [18:28] gparted? [18:28] ls /dev/drive/by-uuid ? [19:27] I've got a bunch of shows recorded with mythtv, and now I'd like to get mythexport to convert them to iTunes-happy RSS+mp4. [19:27] the web configuration ui for mythexport is running, but I can't seem to get any conversion processes going [19:31] just the stuff i'd like to know too, so i'll be lurking... [19:33] ah... progress: in Watch Recordings, navigate to a show, press M... [19:34] choose job options, and start ipod-hires-convert (which is the name I chose in the web interface) [19:35] CPU is now crunching away [19:35] fwiw: [19:35] Version table: [19:35] *** 2.2.3-0ubuntu1~ppa3 0 [19:35] 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/testing/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages [19:36] [ppa.launchpad.net] Index of /mythbuntu/testing/ubuntu [19:37] my goal is actually to watch on a big screen, not a portable device, so I'll want higher resolution. [19:37] (I expect other family members will find iTunes much more usable than mythfrontend) [19:38]