[03:29] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[03:43] <knightzero> Mmmm.  Turkey.
[05:16] <InHisName> yum
[05:17] <andrew> Ok, watching Dual Survival on Discovery... Did I really need to watch him cut himself, then dump black powder into the gapping wound?
[05:18] <andrew> (Then ignite it.)
[05:20] <knightzero> andrew: that sounds unplesant, for lack of a better term.
[05:21] <Irishmanluke> oh to cauterize the wound?
[05:22] <andrew> yes
[05:22] <Irishmanluke> thats badass
[05:22] <knightzero> That just seems like one of those things that you talk about...in theory...rather than giving a practical application.
[05:23] <andrew> yeah, that was their point, all talk, no demonstration
[05:24] <knightzero> I pity the man who picked the short straw and got stuck as the demonstrator.
[05:24] <andrew> here's the video (minus the actual cutting): http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/dual-survival-season-2-episode-3-videos/
[05:24] <PennBot> Title: Dual Survival: Slash and Burn : Videos : Discovery Channel (at dsc.discovery.com)
[05:25] <InHisName> any experts on bind ing ?
[05:25] <andrew> binding an open wound?
[05:25] <andrew> use black powder!
[05:26] <InHisName> bind on dns
[05:26] <ChinnoDog> That wasn't the binding example i was going to use andrew but I guess that is safer for this channel. haha
[05:26] <andrew> ChinnoDog: you see that video?
[05:26] <pleia2> InHisName: do you have a specific question about it?
[05:27] <InHisName> anyone who can advise fixing any erorrs in setting up bind would be helpful  http://pastebin.ca/2048322
[05:27] <ChinnoDog> andrew: no. maybe later.
[05:27] <PennBot> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 2048322 (at pastebin.ca)
[05:27] <pleia2> you are all up past your bedtimes
[05:27] <andrew> pleia2 is #ubuntu-us-pa 's late night tech support
[05:27] <InHisName> I had nap#1 already
[05:28] <pleia2> InHisName: a CNAME has to be an address, not "pacslinux"
[05:28] <pleia2> so you probably want:
[05:28] <InHisName> ok,
[05:28] <pleia2> pacslinux.whatever.
[05:29] <pleia2> and CNAMEs always end in a period (like NS above)
[05:29] <Irishmanluke> andrew: so when would you ever want to actually cauterize a wound using black powder?
[05:30] <andrew> If you are in the scenario they placed themselves in?
[05:31] <ChinnoDog> Binding wounds with black powder sounds really painful
[05:32] <andrew> ChinnoDog: I suppose, but before he did that, he gave himself that wound with a knife. If you can do that, the black powder is probably nothing to you
[05:33] <InHisName> pleia2: is that the only thing that was wrong ?   I thought there would have been more . . .
[05:33] <pleia2> InHisName: it's somewhat unclear to me what you're doing, all of these are subdomains of sias.co.cc?
[05:33] <pleia2> so you'll have www.pacslinux.sias.co.cc
[05:33] <pleia2> gw.sias.co.cc
[05:34] <ChinnoDog> Black powder must absorb moisture like salt, and it has sharp crystaline edges, and then you ignite it and it burns really hot, so.. knive doesn't sound bad compared to that
[05:34] <ChinnoDog> s/knive/knife
[05:35] <pleia2> InHisName: also, 2007062001 needs to be updated each time you change the file, and it's date based
[05:35] <pleia2> so you'd probably want 2011042201
[05:35] <InHisName> pacslinux, gw, www, & pc are supposed to be workstations   plus one server
[05:36] <InHisName> Ok thanks on the date
[05:36] <Irishmanluke> everyone should have lasers for cauterization
[05:37] <ChinnoDog> Remembering to increment the verison was always annoying.
[05:37] <ChinnoDog> Irishmanluke: If only those grew on trees I guess?
[05:38] <Irishmanluke> someone needs to make a handheld-laser tree
[05:38] <Irishmanluke> come on scientists, I'm looking at you
[05:40] <ChinnoDog> powerful enough to cauderize a wound?
[05:40] <Irishmanluke> actually does anyone know what the standard army way of doing it is?
[05:40] <ChinnoDog> I bet a spare fresnel lense or large magnifier would give you enough eat from sunlight to cauderize a wound
[05:41] <ChinnoDog> It would take awhile though. /That/ would be badass. Forget gunpowder.
[05:41] <ChinnoDog> s/eat/heat
[05:42] <ChinnoDog> andrew: What do you think? Slow cauterization from sunlight and magnifying glass > igniting gunpowder?
[05:43] <Irishmanluke> I think we should compile a list of the most painful ways of cauderizing a wound and put it on wikipedia
[05:43] <InHisName> army answer 60's & 70's was "field dressing" with LOTS of pressure.   Goal: stop the bleeding.    Never mention cauterizing.    Survival courses mentioned 'hot knife'.
[05:43] <ChinnoDog> lol
[05:43] <andrew> Don't know, based on the coming up teaser, they'll be checking on the wound shortly
[05:43] <Irishmanluke> (if it's not already there)
[05:43] <ChinnoDog> But, we would have to know if they work
[05:43] <ChinnoDog> Irishmanluke: I volunteer you to make several cuts on your arm and we will cauterize them in various ways.
[05:44] <InHisName> :x
[05:44] <ChinnoDog> Its for science!
[05:44] <Irishmanluke> we have to write a formal paper though so we can have a credible source to put up
[05:45] <andrew> it didn't look pretty
[05:47] <ChinnoDog> Didn't superglue gain acceptance as a way to close wounds in the field?
[05:47] <Irishmanluke> I'll make the cuts in my arm if we do one at a time
[05:48] <knightzero> A friend of mine swears by superglue, but I by far prefer modern medicine.
[05:48] <Irishmanluke> that's the only way for it to be accurate
[05:48] <Irishmanluke> but what if you're in the field and all you have is superglue?
[05:48] <InHisName> but super glue is a modern chemical.    Leeches is 'old' medicine.
[05:49] <ChinnoDog> If you are in the field you use whatever you have.
[05:49] <ChinnoDog> Whether it be gunpowder, superglue, or duct tape.
[05:50] <knightzero> still, there's no reason to test those techniques when you don't absolutely need to.
[05:51] <ChinnoDog> Unless you are Irishmanluke and you want to write a Wikipedia article
[05:51] <Irishmanluke> I just want to spread knowledge
[05:53] <andrew> and infection
[05:54] <InHisName> or infarction
[05:54] <Irishmanluke> I wonder if there are accepted pain scales, it seems difficult because everyone experiences pain differently,
[05:55] <ChinnoDog> http://xkcd.com/883/
[05:55] <PennBot> Title: xkcd: Pain Rating (at xkcd.com)
[05:55] <Irishmanluke> yeah I was just thinking of that actually
[05:55] <andrew> Irishmanluke: http://www.partnersagainstpain.com/printouts/A7012AS6.pdf
[05:57] <Irishmanluke> this is too technical for me
[05:57] <ChinnoDog> lol
[05:57] <andrew> it's used in hospitals
[05:57] <ChinnoDog> I'm going to sleep. If we keep talking about cauterizing Irishmanluke's arm past 1am I am not going to be able to stop laughing.
[05:58] <andrew> but...
[05:58] <andrew> so how many methods are we up to?
[05:58] <Irishmanluke> well at least your not laughing about the idea of me walking around with an open wound...
[05:58] <ChinnoDog> Irishmanluke: That would be the control cut. We can't close that one using aritificial means.
[05:58] <andrew> hmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauterization
[05:58] <Irishmanluke> well glue isn't cauterization
[05:58] <PennBot> Title: Cauterization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[05:59] <ChinnoDog> So it has to involve melting flesh?
[05:59] <Irishmanluke> unless it creates a chemical burn
[05:59] <andrew> can it?
[05:59] <Irishmanluke> it has to involve burning
[05:59] <andrew> why not?
[05:59] <andrew> ChinnoDog: what's wrong with melting flesh?
[06:00] <ChinnoDog> Oh. Burning could also be done with electricity and chemicals.
[06:00] <andrew> 01:00:04 < ChinnoDog> Oh. Burning could also be done with electricity and chemicals.
[06:00] <andrew> It's past 1ma
[06:00] <andrew> It's past 1am
[06:01] <ChinnoDog> Electricity. How long will it take to cauterize a wound with a USB port?
[06:01] <andrew> too long
[06:01] <ChinnoDog> You could add brine to the wound to make it more conductive
[06:02] <andrew> hmm
[06:02] <andrew> painful?
[06:02] <ChinnoDog> Probably not enough current available anyway
[06:02] <Irishmanluke> from the wikipedia page, hot metal, metal probe heated by electric current, electricity through the tissue, several chemicals, liquid nitrogen
[06:02] <ChinnoDog> metal probe heated by electric current = soldering iron
[06:03] <ChinnoDog> just solder it shut
[06:03] <ChinnoDog> lead poisoning will be a bonus
[06:03] <Irishmanluke> if I'm in the woods with my laptop, and it still has power for some reason, and I have a wound which I need to close immediately I will try to use my usb prot
[06:04] <ChinnoDog> I would think you will have better luck shorting you battery with a graphite pencil led, which will become extremely hot
[06:04] <andrew> Irishmanluke: http://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Soldering-Iron/
[06:04] <PennBot> Title: USB Soldering Iron (at www.instructables.com)
[06:04] <Irishmanluke> and we mentioned, lasers, lens with the sun, and black poweder
[06:04] <ChinnoDog> Electrically heated graphite.
[06:05] <ChinnoDog> if you've ever run current through a .5mm pencil led you will see it smoke almost instantly
[06:05] <ChinnoDog> I once calculated how much current I needed to melt it but it has an extremely high melting poitn
[06:05] <ChinnoDog> It was around the melting point of diamonds
[06:06] <Irishmanluke> andrew: ty
[06:06] <andrew> for?
[06:06] <Irishmanluke> the link
[06:07] <andrew> ah, i expect results
[06:07] <Irishmanluke> there was an ad on that page for "the most powerful lasers you can legally own"
[06:07] <ChinnoDog> done now. time for sleep
[06:07] <Irishmanluke> night
[06:07] <ChinnoDog> nite
[06:09] <Irishmanluke> isn't there a way to hack lasers to make them hotter (and less stable)
[06:12] <andrew> night
[12:32] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[12:51] <InHisName> Hi SamuraiAlba enjoy all the bacon sites I drop by to you lately?
[13:11] <waltman> SamuraiAlba: Speaking of which, did you see http://www.instructables.com/id/Bacon-Roses/ ?
[13:11] <PennBot> Title: Bacon Roses (at www.instructables.com)
[13:17] <InHisName> He should have, I did that for SamuraiAlba with an @later
[13:19] <SamuraiAlba> I saw ;)
[13:20] <SamuraiAlba> Playing Runes of Magic :)
[13:23] <waltman> SamuraiAlba: I picked up bacon *and* kielbasa yesterday!
[13:23] <waltman> I think I'm set with tasty smoked pork products for a while.
[13:50] <SamuraiAlba> Aye!
[16:11] <MutantTurkey> SamuraiAlba: baconfest instead of breakfast today
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol