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macoScottK: building a new kdebindings source package with that patch, im getting this lintian error i've never seen before, and i'm not sure which of the suggested resolutions is best: not-binnmuable-all-depends-any  05:11
macoE: kdebindings source: not-binnmuable-all-depends-any python-kde4-dev -> python-kde405:11
macoScottK: id meant to give the link to http://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-all-depends-any.html since i said there were suggested resolutions...05:12
ScottKmaco: For Ubuntu we don't care.  Only Debian has binNMUs.06:41
bambeemornin08:45
bambeeg08:45
bambeewhat I need to do in order to add a bug in this list ? http://goo.gl/BKRCm09:36
debfxbambee: set the milestone to ubuntu-11.0409:39
bambeeI cannot , could you change the milestone for bug 768363 ?09:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 768363 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Not able to change software origins in software-properties-kde - TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76836309:40
bambee(I can change everything except the milestone)09:42
debfxyou probably need to be in bugcontrol to change it09:43
debfxbut I don't think we can upload seeded packages anymore09:44
bambeeeven if it's a crash ? o_O09:45
debfxScottK: ping09:46
debfxbambee: I'm not sure, but we can always do a 0-day SRU09:49
bambeeprobably, I do not know...09:50
debfxwhy do you return "none" when str is None?09:51
bambeedebfx: to get the same behaviour as the gtk frontend09:53
bambeethe string is none because /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info contains buggy templates (see the other bug in commment #12)09:55
debfxok10:03
bambeetry the gtk frontend, it does not crash: it displays duplicates entries in "updates" tab and a "none" entry => it's a bug but it does not crash. My patch fixes the crash so now we've the same bug without crash :)10:03
debfxhm it doesn't crash for me, probably because I don't have a default sources.list10:04
bambeeon natty it does not crash for you ? o_O10:04
debfxyes10:05
bambeestrange...10:05
debfxnot fully upgraded though10:06
debfxah yes, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/0.7.100.3ubuntu5 probably causes the issue10:07
bambeemhh, probably. See the bug 760035 in the changelog, it contains a patch10:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 760035 in python-apt (Ubuntu Natty) "Ubuntu.info template doesn't allow deb-src lines using archive.ubuntu.com on ports architectures" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76003510:10
bambeethe patch adds a "Suite" entry into the template for ubuntu, but this template has a missing description :)10:11
bambeeso yes probably this commit causes the issue (for the "none" description), for duplicates entries... I am not sure :\10:12
debfxbambee: I'm no python expert but shouldn't it return u"none" instead of "none"?10:16
debfxor maybe it doesn't make a difference10:20
bambeedebfx: "none" is not an ascii string ? (I am no unicode expert...)10:29
debfxbambee: unicode and string are different types in python10:30
bambeeI know10:30
bambeeyou're probably right...10:31
Quintasan_happy easter or whatever is it that you are celebrating today10:35
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njinHello to all, testing kubuntu with encryption i cannot see, as i happens in gnome, the request for the passphrase, can someone notice me about this?12:59
njinAlso differently from gnome, at first login i've to enter the username and the password13:02
bambeenjin, for auto-login: ALT+F2, then type "kcmshell4 kdm" => look at the "conveniences" tab13:23
bambeethen check "Enable Auto-Login"13:24
bambeeand click "apply"13:24
bambee(you will be asked to authenticate before saving, enter your root password)13:25
bambeeI did not understand what is your problem with encryption...13:25
njinbambee: usually, in gnome when I made an installation with /home encrypted, at the first boot it require me a passphrase to recover, this not happens in kubuntu13:29
bambeedebfx: an idea ?13:34
bambeenjin: your home directory is probably not encrypted, I mean you would not have access to your files without a password :)13:36
bambee(I can be wrong)13:36
afiestasanybody knows how to fix this: http://paste.kde.org/2641313:38
afiestaswhen installing kde in a custom prefix?13:38
afiestaslas time I had this issue Iw as told to look at neon environment variables13:38
afiestasbut I have not been able to find them13:38
ScottKdebfx: pong.  Unless it's worth delaying the release over, 0 day SRU is the way to go.14:11
macoScottK: great...how do i tell lintian to shut up?14:28
QuintasanBug #76982014:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 769820 in akonadi-googledata (Ubuntu) "akonadi-kde-resource-googledata always says invalid password unable to add google contact and calendar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76982014:40
macoScottK: nevermind14:43
QuintasanI just don't get it15:06
Quintasanyofel_, shadeslayer: ^^15:06
Quintasanhow the hell there can be a bug in packaging if using dpkg-buildpackage on users PC solves the problem?15:07
Quintasanhmmmm15:11
Quintasanno shit15:11
jussiQuintasan: if you are missing a dep on the package that the user has? 15:11
QuintasanThere is a library conflict when building both15:12
jussiheh15:12
Quintasannow which one should be used?15:12
QuintasanFFS15:13
* bigbrovar time to get something to eat15:15
Quintasanbigbrovar: now we need someone who didn't recompile their libs to test my fix15:17
bigbrovarI can always uninstall my compile and apply? 15:18
bigbrovarand if I have time I can always do a fresh install on a work laptop and test that?15:19
bigbrovarbut that would be later cus I have been at this all morning and need a break15:19
bigbrovarits 15:19 here and I have not had anything all day 15:19
bigbrovarQuintasan: u can always make ur fix available in the bug report and when I have time later today I can test it 15:20
Quintasanbigbrovar: a clean install would be better, but try on your normal PC first15:20
Quintasanbigbrovar: I have uploaded it to PPA already15:20
bigbrovarQuintasan: I will do that on a fresh install later today and get back to u15:21
QuintasanI don't have any idea what pulls libcurl4-openssl-dev to akonadi-googledata build-deps15:25
Quintasanand libgcal pulls libcurl4-gnutls-dev which conflicts with  libcurl4-openssl-dev15:25
Quintasanwhich is even more confusing15:25
QuintasanRiddell: ^^ we won't get that in natty?15:26
mgraesslinare there any chances to get a freeze fix into natty?16:31
macomgraesslin: candidate ISOs are being built and tested now.  anything non-critical is likely going to need to be a 0-day SRU.16:42
bambeeapachelogger: ping16:42
macomgraesslin: all the getting-permission-to-break-freeze stuff is going on in #ubuntu-release16:43
mgraesslinmaco: ok, thanks16:45
mgraesslinin case you ship 4.6.3 it will be included anyway16:45
bambeeapachelogger: finally I found the answer myself :)17:06
debfxmgraesslin: we don't, is there a bug report?17:27
mgraesslindebfx: it's for kde bug 26132317:30
ubottuKDE bug 261323 in scene-opengl "EffectFrame can freeze desktop on NVIDIA" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26132317:30
mgraesslinbambee: btw we have a fix for the activities and effects problem17:32
bambeemgraesslin: well good. I had not time enough to write the fix these days... but it's a good new :)17:34
mgraesslinbambee: good, I already feared there were two fixes, now :-)17:34
bambee;)17:35
bambeemgraesslin: however, now it's the weekend, I can help for another thing :)  (I code in python since 2 days, I need c++ :P)17:39
mgraesslinhehe17:39
ScottKmaco: Just ignore it.17:42
mgraesslinbambee: kde bug 265580 seems like a really easy one17:42
ubottuKDE bug 265580 in effects-various "JJ: Window peek for minimized windows" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26558017:43
* bambee looks17:44
ScottKQuintasan: Please figure out the akonadi-googledata thing.17:44
QuintasanScottK: I think I already did it17:45
QuintasanScottK: waiting for confirmation17:45
ScottKGreat.17:45
Quintasanbigbrovar: ping17:45
bambeemgraesslin: indeed17:46
ScottKmgraesslin: For KDE stuff unless it's worth delaying the entire release over it should be done as a post-release update.17:46
mgraesslinScottK: ok, so post release17:46
mgraesslinit might result in a freeze, but it is nothing which is enabled by default17:47
ScottKAlthough we can upload such changes now to get them in the queue.17:47
mgraesslinI will later on do a test on another system and then push the change17:47
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Quintasanbigbrovar: ping19:06
pajatopmrI am trying to find out information (above and beyond that found via googling) on having native wireless support for Kubuntu (Natty Narwhal) on a Macbook Pro 8,3 (early 2011).  Is there any to be had on this channel?19:20
pajatopmrWhat I have learned so far is that the device is new and not supported by the kernel.  Does that sound correct?19:20
bigbrovarQuintasan: .19:23
Quintasanbigbrovar: have a clean install?19:24
Quintasanbigbrovar: add my PPA and try it19:24
bigbrovarlet me get to it now, 19:24
bigbrovarjust post ur ppa here 19:24
Quintasanhttp://ppa.quintasan.pl <-- redirect19:24
bigbrovargotcha.19:25
bigbrovarbtw there is this bug I noticed when in 10.10, I noticed it also made it to 11.04, it mainly affects the menubar.widget19:26
bigbrovarI did everything to try and get the issue fixed including hunting down the email of the maintainer and mailing him, even reporting the issue at his bug and filing a bug on launchpad http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/701527  19:26
ubottuUbuntu bug 701527 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "Some Qt applications freezes Plasma-shell on start with plasma-widget-menubar enabled" [Undecided,New]19:27
bigbrovarstill never got a feed back, not a word. But the bug exist and even thought it does not affect every kde app, it does affect quite a hanful as I said in my post.19:27
bigbrovarsituations like this makes the process of bug reporting dishearting and just kills the enthusiasm 19:28
Quintasanbigbrovar: bro, we are --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <-this short on people if compared to Ubuntu20:03
Quintasanbigbrovar: We'd like to get everything done fastly but we lack people :/20:04
bigbrovarQuintasan: :( and am not a programmer but would be glad to help the best way I can 20:13
Quintasanbigbrovar: I'm not a programmer either20:13
Quintasanwe have essentialy tons of stuff to do20:13
bigbrovarQuintasan: also I doubt many people are aware of the lack of hand on kubuntu 20:13
Quintasanlike bug tiriaging20:13
bigbrovarit would be a nice thing to do an sos blog post or something20:14
bigbrovarlet me get on with the testing 20:14
jjessebug triaging or helping / documentation are good places for non developers20:14
bigbrovarthe system is installed20:14
bigbrovarjjesse: I can always help with documentation 20:14
bigbrovarQuintasan: I will try add the default akonadi google resources and see if it doesnt work, just to be sure 20:15
jjessebigbrovar DarkwingDuck and i do the documentation, though DarkwingDuck has a better understand of where things are this cycle20:15
bigbrovarthen I will add the one from ur ppa20:15
Quintasancool20:15
Quintasanif that's not it then I don't have any idea what causes the problem20:16
bigbrovar Quintasan I have added it now rebooting. 20:31
Quintasancool20:31
bigbrovarQuintasan: good news is adding ur package seems to stop the invalid password error, and on akonadi it says 100% sync20:40
bigbrovarBut starting and adding google resource does nothing20:40
bigbrovarI can not see my contacts on kaddressbook20:41
bigbrovarQuintasan: I still feel this is a packaging issue and both libgcal and akonadi-googleresource are affected20:41
Quintasanbigbrovar: stop and start akonadi20:42
bigbrovarQuintasan: did that, even restarted the system20:42
Quintasan:/20:42
bigbrovarhow come the source default kubuntu source worked when I built them from source20:43
bigbrovarbut the binary in the repo doesnt20:43
Quintasanthis is ridiculous20:43
bigbrovarQuintasan: FYI had to compile but libgcal and akonadi google resource20:44
bigbrovarur ppa only has libgcal20:44
Quintasanwhat?20:44
bigbrovarur ppa https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa has packages for just libgcal20:45
bigbrovarwhen it fact it seems but libgcal and akonadi-kde-google-resource are affected20:45
QuintasanRiddell: crap, my membership in Launchpad in Kubuntu Members has expired, can you fix it?20:46
Quintasanbigbrovar: I did no changes to akonadi-googledata that's why it doesnt show up as update maybe20:47
bigbrovaryep20:47
Quintasanbigbrovar: I thought it's a library conflict between libgcal and googledata but it's not :/20:47
bigbrovarlike I said I build the kubuntu source (from the src repo) for both packages and they worked when I compiled them20:48
bigbrovarso it might just be a build problem20:48
QuintasanThat's the worst thing20:48
Quintasanbigbrovar: if it works after doing dpkg-buildpackage on local machine then it possibly can't be a packaging error :/20:57
bigbrovarhmmm tbh I don't know much about this things20:58
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sheytanRiddell pong ping and other stuff21:12

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