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Guest17245Hey everyone. I was just wondering if there was a way to take a screenshot of ALL virtual desktops at once.02:00
Guest17245Right now I: screenshot -> save -> switch virtual desktop -> screenshot ->save -> ...(and so on)02:01
Guest17245but with 7 desktops, there's ought tobe a better way02:01
Guest17245Or at least I hope =P02:01
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MK``Guest: you mean on a different session?02:10
MK``o_oll: *02:10
o_ollnah02:11
passthruHello people.02:11
MK``or different workspace?02:11
o_olllike how you can have multiple desktops02:11
passthrui'm getting a weird error when I try to load a fresh installation of KDE02:11
o_ollya that02:11
passthrui am using Ubuntu 10.1002:11
o_ollMK`` so, workspaces one 1-702:12
passthruand just installed the package kubuntu-desktop via apt-get02:12
passthruwhen I log in, it starts loading KDE but I suddenly get at GDM screen again02:12
MK``I do not know o_oll sorry, I know how to do it on other X sessions but not other workspaces02:12
passthruany clue about that ?02:12
MK``passthru: did you set it to load kdm?02:12
kalibHi people. My kubuntu was working just fine with flash plugin but since last update, 3 days ago, my flash stoped working. Any idea?02:13
o_ollMK`` no prob, thanks anyway =D02:13
passthruMK``, no.02:14
passthruIt is loading by GDM02:14
passthruGDM can mess with KDE ?02:14
passthruMK``,  i am suspecting about my crappy video card :(02:15
MK``passthru: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:15
passthruMK``, KDE have by default some coposite option configured ?02:15
passthrui am suspecting about that02:15
o_ollGDM is just the pre-desktop environment. You can start KDE from GDM and GNOME from KDM02:15
passthruo_oll,  MK``: the problem isn't GDM02:16
passthruIt starts loading the KDE02:16
passthrui see that bar with some icons appearing02:16
passthruand so, suddenly I get on GDM screen again :D02:16
o_olloO02:16
o_ollstrange02:16
passthruif I check by 'ps aux', there is no KDE process alive02:17
o_olldid you just install kde or a full package like kubuntu-desktop02:17
MK``Maybe it is loading both or something by accident somehow. I'd still do that, maybe to "reset" gdm into not running itself, and running kdm instead02:17
passthruo_oll,  i just installed by kubuntu-desktop package.02:17
MK``i did the same and I haven't had trouble02:18
passthruMK``, I still suspecting about my video card02:18
passthruit have no acceleration support and has only 64MB of RAM02:18
MK``Perhaps. Can you select KDE from GDM though?02:18
passthruMK``,  yeah02:18
MK``I don't see how KDM would be more or less intensive02:18
passthrui have gnome, kde and xfce4 installed02:19
MK``same02:19
kalibHi people. My kubuntu was working just fine with flash plugin but since last update, 3 days ago, my flash stoped working. Any idea?02:19
passthruabout gnome and xfce, I use both w/o problem02:19
MK``kalib: well, wait for a fix or maybe roll back the update02:19
MK``^^02:19
MK``passthru: Maybe it's a Qt issue with the card then02:20
MK``since gnome and xfce both use gtk+02:20
passthruhmm02:20
o_ollpassthru why not try a KDE liveCD to rule out compatibility issues before troubleshooting further02:20
kalibMK``, you mean, everyone got the same issue?02:20
o_ollpassthru should help rule out a hardware issue02:20
MK``kalib: I was half-joking, I do not know :( What was updated02:21
passthruQT have directly interaction with the GPU ?02:21
passthruo_oll, maybe a try :)02:21
kalibjust flash stoped working...02:21
passthruo_oll, ah, i forgot to tell02:21
kalibeven on chromium, when I type: about:plugins02:22
passthrui can load plasma-desktop through gnome02:22
kalibflash is not seen02:22
passthruit loads fine.02:22
MK``plasma is unrelated to kdm :P02:22
passthruMK``,  plasma-desktop command02:22
passthru:}02:22
MK``but, I have a feeling if plasma works this is not a qt issue02:22
passthruyeah02:22
o_ollyeah02:22
MK``Did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm?02:23
MK``which, seems to be the same as the other, incidentally heh02:23
passthruwhen I load plasma-desktop, it load other lot of components02:24
passthru:p02:24
passthruI suspect about something which tries to use compositing features02:24
MK``does it replace metacity/mutter/compiz as well with its own window manager?02:25
passthruwhen I load through gnome? no.02:25
passthruit stills using metacity as wm02:25
MK``you could try running kwin to see if it works02:26
passthruhmm02:26
passthrule'me see02:26
passthruyeah, i got it02:27
passthrumy desktop has totally crashed when I ran kwin02:28
passthru:p02:28
MK``lol02:28
passthrumaybe compositing setting ? :P02:28
MK``Perhaps02:28
passthruwhere can I turn it off ?02:28
MK``I do not know :(02:29
MK``maybe use reconfigure on it somehow02:29
passthrui tried :(02:30
passthrui'll try to debug it02:30
kalibMK``, you should learn how to make things work the right way... You shouldn't have to wait a strange to clean up your house....02:31
MK``I know kalib, I'm sorry, I do not know how to fix it02:32
MK``I am new to ubuntu02:32
MK``and linux02:32
passthru^^02:32
kalibwell done.. got it working..02:32
kalibI'll send the patch to you guys...02:32
kalibtake care..02:32
kalibhave a good night02:32
kaliband..by the way..02:32
MK``thanks02:32
FloodBotK2kalib: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:32
kalibif you don't know how to fix.. don't make jokes...02:32
kalibsorry if I wasn't so polite..02:33
kalibjust had a bad day...02:33
kalibI really didn't mean that02:33
passthrufalou kalib02:33
passthru:p02:33
MK``it's ok :D02:33
MK``Have a good night!02:34
kalibyou too...02:34
passthrukalib is from my country haha02:34
passthru:)02:34
brethi02:34
passthruuses the same ISP of me02:34
passthruMK``, btw, do you know where are the default cfg files from KDE/kwin ?02:36
MK``I do not02:38
passthru01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)02:38
passthrumy super imba video card :(02:39
o_olllol, i managed to screenshot all. a glorious 21 MB png03:00
o_ollhehehe03:00
o_ollnow to convert it to .ppm(though only for laughs at the filesize)03:01
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MK``o_oll: how? :o03:42
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cosmo18is there a way to set kate tois there a way to set kate to indent with spaces instead of tab when using the tab key, I am editing yaml files and they are picky about that indent with spaces instead of tab when using the tab key, I am editing yaml files and they are picky about that04:30
Uhriventisi have a friend with a very out dated version of Kubuntu. When he runs sudo apt-get update or upgrade konsole closed immediately what gives?04:49
valorieUhriventis: "very" outdated?05:00
valoriewhich version does your friend have?05:00
UhriventisWell. He.sent me a screen shot and it looked like kde two versions ago.05:01
UhriventisLooks like the first release of Kubuntu05:01
UhriventisI use 3.5.9 and it's older than that05:02
UhriventisWhats the command to get the version?05:03
eiriksvinHello people, got a couple of questions for ya05:03
UhriventisBut I'm a suse/slackware user05:04
eiriksvinI'm havin trouble getting my Netgear Rangemax WPN111 to work...05:04
UhriventisSurprised he was using linux as he can't work irc05:05
eiriksvinndiswrapper, and driver are good, but I cant seem to get the light to come on... it says the hardware is there, but it acts like its not05:06
eiriksvingot any ideas?05:06
Uhriventiscat /etc/lsb-release right?05:07
valorie!version05:08
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »05:08
eiriksvincan some 1 help me with that05:10
valoriethe KDE 3 stuff is rarely supported now05:16
valorieand it sounds like his kubuntu is long after EOL (end of life)05:16
valorie!eol05:16
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:16
valorieif he wants to upgrade he'll need to follow that guide05:17
valoriehowever, you could help him out by burning a liveCD or liveUSB for him05:17
valorieso he can try out the newer ISOs on his old box05:17
valorie!iso05:18
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:18
valoriehmm05:18
UhriventisWow, suse offers it still in it's releases. Any reason why Kubuntu stopped supporting it? And is Debian also?05:18
valorie!trinity05:18
valoriedebian still has it, I know05:19
valoriethere is a fork called Trinity05:19
valoriebut KDE no longer supports v.3 as far as i know05:19
UhriventisJust checked kde website and it's supported05:22
UhriventisI hope they continue, I really like it.05:22
UhriventisHowever they are pushing you to v405:24
bigbrovar2hi guys.  were can i ask questions about kubuntu 11.04?05:39
MK``bigbrovar2: for general ubuntu 11.04 related stuff there is #ubuntu+105:43
nnhi05:43
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bigbrovar2i have asked this at ubuntu+1 but tot to ask here again.  is anyone running kubuntu natty having problems with giogle akonadi resource.  mainly i get invalid password even though i have the right password imputed . i have since been unable to import my google calendar and contacts. :/07:59
Daskreechhi bigbrovar208:09
bigbrovar2daskreech : hi08:11
Daskreechbigbrovar2: I had something to talk to you about and totally forgot what it was now08:19
bigbrovar2Daskreech: lol happens to the best of us. does it in anyway connect to the issues i am having with akonadi Google resource on kububtu natty?08:21
DaskreechNo that's a little newew08:26
DaskreechThis was like a... week ago :)08:26
topylibigbrovar2: i have the same problem, here's the bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26864308:35
ubottuKDE bug 268643 in Google Resource "Cannot create Akonadi calendar that will sync with Google Calendar" [Normal,New]08:35
bigbrovar2topyli: thanks so much mate. u made my day. as u know misery loves company :p08:39
topylii know, that's why i was glad to find the bug too :)08:39
bigbrovar2so u are on natty?08:41
topylibigbrovar: yes08:56
maurii need natty irc address , where i can find it?09:17
valorieit is #ubuntu+109:18
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xieyiHas anyone successfully connected itouch to ubuntu through gtkpod? I can successfully mount through ifuse, but can't mount through gtkpod. Don't know why12:12
xieyigtkpod complains error initilize pod missing hashinfo file12:13
xieyiI have generated hashfile in the mountpoint12:14
LINKSWORD2Hello. I'm wondering if it is possible to use Konsole to upgrade from Kubuntu 10.04 LTS to 10.10 within the OS?12:21
xieyiLINKSWORD2, I think you should execute "do-release-upgrade -d" in text mode(ctrl-alt-f1) to avoid any possible interruption.12:28
LINKSWORD2I missed that. My channel screen cleared, sorry.12:29
xieyiLINKSWORD2, I think you should execute "do-release-upgrade -d" in text mode(ctrl-alt-f1) to avoid any possible interruption.12:31
LINKSWORD2Ok.12:32
LINKSWORD2I'll give that a try.12:32
LINKSWORD2One last thing. I'm familiar with Kubuntu, but I had a friend recommend Fedora. Any notable trade-offs between the two?12:33
xieyiI think kubuntu has good multimedia support12:36
xieyifedora has no mp3 support12:36
LINKSWORD2Ouch. That's a distinct difference.12:37
LINKSWORD2All right, thanks a lot.12:38
xieyiwelcome12:38
c2tarunanyone used gimp on kubuntu?12:40
xieyic2tarun, what is the problem?12:41
c2tarunxieyi: whenever I am trying to start gimp on my kubuntu natty beta2 its crashing :/12:43
topylimp3 support in fedora is one package install away12:44
xieyiI am using natty beta2 but no such problem. what is the error message from konsole?12:45
dr0idhow can i know my kubuntu version ?12:45
xieyiecho /etc/issue12:45
bazhang!version > dr0id12:45
ubottudr0id, please see my private message12:45
dr0idwell, i wanted to know kubuntu version, not ubntu12:46
c2tarundr0id: what's the difference?12:46
bazhangdr0id, you must mean kde4 version12:46
topylidr0id: it's the same12:46
dr0id4.2.2 and 9.04 ? :P12:46
dr0idor shall i say kde ?12:47
topylioh12:47
c2tarundr0id: I guess you are looking ro kde version12:47
c2tarundr0id: open dolphin in help and about kde12:47
dr0idthanks sir12:47
njinHello, i'm testing 20110423, with encryption, but at the first boot i don't have the request for the passphrase, can someone noticew me about kubuntu manage this or it ids egual that in gnome?13:16
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Denis_Lobanovns identify 8751213:21
Denis_LobanovHi13:22
Denis_LobanovWho test 11.0413:22
njinI13:23
xieyime, too13:24
njinDenis_Lobanov: I'm testng it13:24
Denis_LobanovIs it likes you13:24
Denis_LobanovWhat new13:24
njinencryption not working for me13:24
Denis_LobanovWhat you mean13:24
njinno passphrase request at the first boot13:25
njinhoping that kubvuntu manage it as Gnome13:25
Denis_LobanovAre you use kubuntu?13:26
James147njin: encryption of what?13:26
xieyiyou upgrade from 10.10 or installed from scratch?13:26
xieyiI upgrade from 10.10 and need password to login13:26
njinI'm testing kubuntu, but usually i don't use it, encryption for /home13:26
xieyioh sorry13:27
xieyiI have not test encryption for directory13:27
njinsomeone can reproduce it i virtual?13:27
James147njin: if you chacked to use encrypted home directories in the kubuntu installer then your home directory is encrypted not he home partition (ie /home/username not just /home) and it is unencrypted with your passsword at login13:28
Denis_LobanovI don't use encryption of home13:29
Denis_LobanovThis is useless for me13:29
njinJames147: thanks, then kubuntu manage this dofferently from ubuntu that, at the first boot, require a passphrase for recovering13:31
* James147 is suprised that kubuntu would handle it differnetly ^^13:32
njinJames147: i'm experiencing that13:33
James147https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome ^^ should work like that13:34
njinJames147: thaks it dont do this 'require a password to log in and decrypt your home directory '13:40
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BluesKajHey folks15:11
taninosalve a tutti15:35
taninobuona pascua15:35
phoenix_firebrdgimp works only when i start with sudo else it doesnt start and i am getting a segmentation fault15:36
phoenix_firebrdany help15:36
BluesKaj!it | tanino15:36
ubottutanino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:36
taninogarzie15:37
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, you could be missing some gnome/gtk libs15:37
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: how can i check the missing dependency ?15:37
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: but how come it works when i start it with sudo15:38
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, if you ran a pure kde tutorial then it's possible15:38
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, whynot just purge it then reinstall , that's the best way to get all dependencies and delete a corrupted config file15:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: ok15:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: purged the old i nstall and reinstalled. same error15:43
BluesKajrun gimp and post the error by doing dmesg right after15:46
BluesKajpastebin the  error phoenix_firebrd15:46
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: when i start gimp with --verbose parameter it is starting15:46
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj:  let me check the logs for any error15:46
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phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: Its working now. i just started it with the --verbose parameter first. after that its starting normally15:49
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, cool15:49
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: confused buddy15:49
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: may be i am lucky15:50
BluesKajsometimes , and I don't know why , but that's what it takes for some apps15:50
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: ya , very funny. thank you :)15:51
BluesKajlike starting in the krunner and then the icon magically appears in the pps menu15:51
BluesKajapps15:51
BluesKajcreates alink I guess15:52
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: very true15:52
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: bye15:53
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Guest71944mick16:19
ephexeveHey!16:35
seven|hi, no grub.conf?17:19
seven|How do I add an entry to grub in kubuntu 11.04?17:20
Peace-!grub217:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:22
tertl3i think I messed up my apt-get17:43
tertl3is there a fix all command for apt-get besides -f?17:43
BluesKajtertl3, what's the error say17:43
tertl3libjack0: Depends: lib32jack0 (= 6:1.9.6~dfsg.1-3ubuntu2+fixes1~lucid2) but it is not going to be installed17:44
tertl3anytime I try to install anything I get this17:44
tertl3in kpackage and cli17:44
tertl3BluesKaj: what ever will I do?17:45
Peace-tertl3: sudo apt-get remove libjack017:47
Peace-tertl3: sudo apt-get -f install17:47
tertl3still getting same error17:48
BluesKajtertl3, sudo dpkg --cofigure -a17:48
BluesKajconfigure17:48
Peace-tertl3: you have to remove the pakcage it says17:49
Peace-tertl3: and the sudo apt-get -f install17:49
Peace-tha's all17:49
tertl3hmm17:50
tertl3still getting error17:50
Peace-tertl3: give me the error please17:51
Peace-it's hard help you without the exact string17:51
BluesKajwhat did you try tertl3 ?17:51
tertl3all of em17:52
tertl3The following packages have unmet dependencies:17:53
tertl3  libjack0: Depends: lib32jack0 (= 6:1.9.6~dfsg.1-3ubuntu2+fixes1~lucid2) but it is not going to be installed17:53
tertl3E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).17:53
Daskreechtertl3: apt-cache policy lib32jack017:57
sergio__Hola18:06
sergio__¿qué tal sala?18:06
Pici!es18:07
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.18:07
NjallGood day all18:12
tertl3Daskreech: i think its a ppa problem from one I added18:16
Daskreechtertl3: Fairly certain it is I'm trying to discover which repo is the problem18:16
DaskreechBluesKaj: Gu18:16
DaskreechNjall: hello18:17
* Daskreech hugs valorie18:17
BluesKajhey Daskreech , Happy Easter18:18
Daskreechhi BluesKaj :)18:20
o_ollSo for some reason kubuntu decided to no longer see/mount/make available to mount any of the other partitions on my RAID array. KDE Partition Manager doesn't see the array and instead sees two seperate drives. Ironically I am booted off of this very array.18:28
o_ollthe array works just fine in windows and even the data i saved to the other partitions with KDE in previous boots is there and fully functional18:29
o_olli didn't make any changes to mounting/fstab/ and so on so this is kind of out of the blue18:29
o_ollhow do i re-mount the other partitions?18:30
o_ollironocally the labels for the partitions show just fine under /dev/disk/by-label/18:30
o_oll: (18:35
o_ollAm i in the wrong chat?18:37
BluesKajmount /dev/hdX /chroot/dev/sdX --bind18:38
BluesKajhdX or sdX , whatever was assigned to the partition/drive , o_oll18:39
o_ollBluesKaj Thanks a ton, I'll give it a shot18:40
topyliweirdness. i keep joining #ubuntu-meeting, it never shows up in the channel list in quassel18:51
topyliif i switch windows, the only way back to -meeting is to /join again :)18:51
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Daskreechmaybe you get removed for idling?19:06
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topyliDaskreech: i had inadvertently hidden it permanently. someone saved me by hilighting me there, and it showed up again19:08
Daskreechtopyli: Oh yeah I remember that now19:11
Daskreechdangerous :)19:12
topyliindeed. i'm a quassel newbie, one thing learned :)19:12
BluesKajdoes quassel look any better now , or is it still crude?19:14
topyliBluesKaj: i can't compare, it's all new to me19:15
BluesKajguess it depends on the windows theme one is using19:16
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sourcemaker2is there a security difference between cbc-essiv:sha256 and xts-plain?19:17
Daskreechsourcemaker2: As far as I know in theory sha256 is supposed to be more secure but I don't know thats' ever been demonstrated19:20
Daskreechsourcemaker2: I would suspect they are about the same in most cases19:21
Daskreechboth are about the same level of slow19:21
sourcemaker2Daskreech: Well... I have read that XTS should me more secure...  :-)19:26
Daskreechsourcemaker2: use that then :)19:37
spencerhey19:55
BluesKajgotta get used to this "look" and layout , but Quassel seems not too bad , not as ugly as I remember it20:00
katsrcwhat's the best msn client for kubuntu?20:18
BluesKajkatsrc. I used amsn for a while , it worked ok..didn't try any others tho20:20
katsrcBluesKaj: what was the other one kmess?20:21
James147!msn20:23
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin20:23
James147:P20:23
topylifor values of support :)20:25
Denis_LobanovHow highlit message in quassel to some man?20:46
Denis_LobanovHelp20:47
Denis_LobanovHow highlite message in quassel to some man?20:49
topyliDenis_Lobanov: just say the name20:54
Denis_Lobanovshortcat exsists?20:55
topyliyes. for my nick, you type "top" then hit the TAB key20:55
Denis_Lobanovsks20:56
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