[00:02] <halpbatman> quit
[00:10] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: what wireless card do you have? You can get this info by running the following command in the Terminal:   lspci | grep Network
[00:11] <Average_Guy> i have :)
[00:11] <Average_Guy> broadcom bcm4312
[00:12] <Average_Guy> downloaded b43-fwcutter_012.orig.tar from launchpad and hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_38.tar from broadcom
[00:13] <Average_Guy> I THINK it's the STA driver and the broadcom firmware extrector linux wants
[00:13] <Average_Guy> both tarballs are sitting in my home folder on the linux partition now /home/robert/
[00:14] <Average_Guy> I don't know it they are the right files and I don't know what to do with em
[00:17] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: ok
[00:18] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: looks like it is the STA. The good news is that I think it is in the repository
[00:19] <Average_Guy> ok.. so?
[00:19] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: could you please try the following command:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[00:20] <Average_Guy> and it should work with no internet connection?
[00:20] <Average_Guy> I am in wondows 7 right now
[00:21] <Average_Guy> i'll reboot and go try it if ya want
[00:21] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: ahh, i see.
[00:21] <duanedesign> ok
[00:22] <duanedesign> do you have a usb thumbdrive or something you could use to transfer the package?
[00:23] <Average_Guy> i can download in windows and drag to my linux partition. i downloaded hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_38.tar from launchpad which I THINK is the STA driver
[00:23] <Average_Guy> it is already in my home folder on the linux partition
[00:24] <Average_Guy> i am pretty new to linux tho and don't know what to do next
[00:25] <duanedesign> it is much easier if you can get the .deb file
[00:26] <Average_Guy> where might I look?
[00:27] <duanedesign> i am looking for it now
[00:27] <Average_Guy> THANK YOU!!!!
[00:28] <duanedesign> what version of ubuntu
[00:29] <Average_Guy> 10.04
[00:29] <duanedesign> ok
[00:29] <Juest> hi
[00:30] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: did you install 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[00:30] <Juest> who can help me i am using ubuntu 10.10 i386 and sound dosen't work because of dummy driver why this??? also i use virtualbox on a winxp.
[00:30] <Average_Guy> 32
[00:30] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: ok
[00:30] <Juest> ...
[00:31] <Juest> hey
[00:32] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36%2Bbdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[00:33] <Average_Guy> on it..
[00:33] <duanedesign> Juest:  is it that your sound is shown as Dummy Output in Sound Preferences?
[00:34] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: to intall that deb you should be able to double-click on it once you are in Ubuntu. or run the command:  dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36%2Bbdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[00:36] <Average_Guy> ok. then what? this will make the wireless card work?
[00:36] <Average_Guy> i gunna reboot and go try it
[00:38] <duanedesign> Average_Guy: yes after you install it you will need to reboot
[01:02] <JuestUbuntu> hey
[05:24] <holstein> eiriksvin: youve seen http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?p=226952 ?
[05:24] <eiriksvin> ohh let me try that
[05:26] <eiriksvin> my trouble is with wpn111
[05:26] <holstein> maybe you need to blacklist something
[05:26] <eiriksvin> i cant get netgear rangemax to work
[05:26] <holstein> something that is trying to talk to the device
[05:26] <eiriksvin> idk how to do that stuff
[05:26] <holstein> eiriksvin: are those different things?
[05:27] <holstein> netgeat rangemax wpn111 ?
[05:27] <eiriksvin> yeah
[05:27] <holstein> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-netgear-wg111v2-wireless-dongle-card-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[05:28] <eiriksvin> thats not it  I have Netgear Rangemax USB Wifi Adapter WPN111
[05:28] <holstein> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/netgear-wpn111-wireless-setup-ubuntu-8-4-a-651429/
[05:28] <holstein> i still think you just dont have the proper driver
[05:28] <holstein> *windows driver
[05:29] <holstein> but who knows
[05:29] <holstein> eiriksvin: is it netwpn11.inf ?
[05:30] <eiriksvin> 1 sec
[05:30] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652910
[05:30] <holstein> ^ that is old
[05:30] <holstein> so you dont need to do all of that*
[05:30] <holstein> and you have ndisgtk already installed
[05:31] <holstein> the command "ndiswrapper -l" should come in handy for you
[05:33] <eiriksvin> ok yes its netwpn111.inf
[05:34] <eiriksvin> ok so, let me try that
[05:35] <eiriksvin> this is what I got
[05:35] <eiriksvin> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[05:35] <eiriksvin> netwpn111 : driver installed
[05:35] <eiriksvin> 	device (1385:5F01) present
[05:36] <holstein> cool
[05:36] <holstein> thats looking right so far
[05:37] <eiriksvin> but its not lighting up my adapter
[05:37] <eiriksvin> heh
[05:37] <holstein> eiriksvin: is it connecting?
[05:37] <eiriksvin> no
[05:37] <holstein> is it seeing AP's
[05:37] <holstein> ?
[05:38] <eiriksvin> is there a way to scan for them?
[05:38] <holstein> they just show up there
[05:38] <holstein> in the network manager
[05:38] <eiriksvin> where?
[05:38] <eiriksvin> 1 sec
[05:38] <holstein> you just click on the network manager
[05:38] <holstein> and they are there in a list
[05:39] <holstein> *if
[05:40] <eiriksvin> no  nothings there
[05:40] <holstein> seems like its still not working then
[05:40] <eiriksvin> only my eth0
[05:40] <holstein> eiriksvin: this is the XP driver right?
[05:41] <eiriksvin> well i have 2 eth0 and eth1
[05:41] <eiriksvin> i have no idea what im doing with this im so friggin cunfused.... i am a noob
[05:42] <holstein> nah, you're doing OK
[05:42] <holstein> you just got a challenging piece of hardware
[05:42] <holstein> you should contact netgear
[05:42] <holstein> so they know whats going on
[05:43] <eiriksvin> well thanks, i did manage to get ndiswrapper and the driver in, but idk if its the right one so i tryed to get the updated one...
[05:43] <holstein> eiriksvin: if you can wire it up
[05:43] <holstein> and update the machine
[05:43] <holstein> that can help
[05:43] <eiriksvin> ok, heres the next thing....
[05:44] <eiriksvin> i had a boot option it went
[05:45] <eiriksvin> to a screen when the computer started that let me choose windows 7 or ubuntu... that was fine
[05:45] <holstein> grub
[05:45] <holstein> !grub
[05:45] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[05:46] <eiriksvin> i still have it but the top ubuntu choice give me a shpeel about having to load a kernal first... thats supposed to be the newest one... but it aint working?
[05:46] <holstein> eiriksvin: run the updates like i suggested
[05:47] <holstein> if its still not working
[05:47] <holstein> let us know
[05:48] <eiriksvin> but it happened after i updated ubuntu
[05:48] <holstein> so, you dont want to update?
[05:48] <holstein> you dont have to*
[05:48] <eiriksvin> well sure, is it easy?
[05:48] <holstein> im proposing you might get an update to that kernel
[05:51] <eiriksvin> ok, thats cool but can it be done via usb?
[05:52] <holstein> in theory you could
[05:52] <holstein> but you'd have to download the updates somehow
[05:52] <holstein> so, im going to say no
[05:52] <eiriksvin> dern, ok... i guess im stick with this for a bit
[05:52] <holstein> yeah?
[05:53] <holstein> do it how you did it last time
[05:53] <eiriksvin> yeah i got no cd
[05:53] <holstein> just plug a wire in
[05:53] <holstein> eiriksvin: a network cable
[05:53] <holstein> and update
[05:53] <eiriksvin> no i got this comp from somone that had it on there but never used ubuntu
[05:54] <holstein> you said you did an update
[05:54] <holstein> and go that kernel
[05:54] <holstein> the newer kernel
[05:54] <eiriksvin> yep, i did
[05:54] <holstein> that wont boot
[05:54] <holstein> just do that again
[05:54] <holstein> and update again
[05:54] <holstein> however you did it that time
[05:54] <eiriksvin> update from this kernel?
[05:55] <holstein> im not srue
[05:55] <holstein> sure*
[05:55] <holstein> just take all the updates that are available
[05:55] <eiriksvin> yeah cus i dont want to lose this too
[05:55] <holstein> lose what?
[05:55] <holstein> that kernel?
[05:55] <eiriksvin> my ubuntu
[05:56] <holstein> just dont remove it
[05:56] <holstein> eiriksvin: updating is usually a good idea
[05:56] <eiriksvin> oh just dont remove the older stuff button?
[05:57] <holstein> theres not a button like that
[05:57] <holstein> packages get replaced
[05:57] <holstein> but the older kernels will just stay there
[05:59] <eiriksvin> ok well im gonna bring my  computer back home and get on windows to do some studyin
[05:59] <eiriksvin> i am pretty dumb about all this and i dont want to f thing up any worse
[06:00] <holstein> just keep your data backed up
[06:00] <eiriksvin> yeah will do
[06:28] <Eiriksvin> ok, back to work...
[06:29] <Eiriksvin> im trying to get the win xp driver for Netgear Rangemax WPN111 going
[06:30] <Eiriksvin> the others recognise the device, but they dont let it work... and i cant figure out why
[06:31] <Eiriksvin> how do i get ubuntu to make sure theres nothing else going on with the device to not let it work?
[13:19] <Average_Guy> anyone running 'wbar' dock?
[13:20] <coz_> Average_Guy,  I am not sorry
[13:23] <Average_Guy> can you recommend a launcher? awn is overkill
[13:24] <coz_> Average_Guy,  well I am on the cairo dock team so I am a bit predjudiced :)
[13:24] <Average_Guy> i been eyeballin that one:)
[13:24] <coz_> Average_Guy,   cairo dock is probably the most complex in terms of configuration   and the most reliable in my opinion
[13:25] <coz_> Average_Guy,  you can install it via synaptic package manager ,, or compile it manually  from bzr  which would be the developer's versioin
[13:25] <coz_> version
[13:25] <Average_Guy> working on it
[13:25] <Daniel0108> hi coz_
[13:25] <coz_> Average_Guy,   make sure you go into synaptic package manager
[13:25] <coz_> Daniel0108,  hey guy
[13:25] <coz_> Average_Guy,   hit Search and type in cairo dock
[13:25] <coz_> Average_Guy,  there will be several packages there
[13:26] <coz_> Average_Guy,  just be sure you  install all of the cairo dock packages  not   cairo (clock) :)
[13:26] <Average_Guy> k
[13:26] <coz_> Average_Guy,  do you know w hich video card you have there?
[13:27] <Average_Guy> ati raidon
[13:27] <Average_Guy> thats all i kno off the top
[13:27] <coz_> Average_Guy,   ok  I believe that should be fine with the  opengl  options
[13:27] <coz_> Average_Guy,  after installation,, you should see the options of starting it under   Applications/system tools
[13:27] <coz_> if on gnome
[13:27] <kristian-aalborg> soo... I have a box with no cd, and I can't get it to boot from USB
[13:27] <coz_> Average_Guy,  you want to try the   opengl option first
[13:28] <coz_> kristian-aalborg,  oooo  are you sure the option to boot from usb is in the bios?
[13:28] <Average_Guy> ok
[13:28] <kristian-aalborg> I'm thinking of installing to an usb pen and then move it over... alternatively I might try to install over network
[13:29] <coz_> Average_Guy,   there are not many docks available out there and the two main ones are awn and cairo dock
[13:29] <Average_Guy> ooooooo purdy
[13:29] <coz_> Average_Guy,   oh its running now?
[13:29] <Average_Guy> got it up now :)
[13:29] <coz_> Average_Guy,  there you go
[13:30] <coz_> Average_Guy,  now right click the dock  go to Cairo dock   and then configuration
[13:30] <coz_> rather Configure
[13:30] <coz_> Average_Guy,  the  config dialog will open,, at the bottom left of that dialog is an "Advanced":   button  ,, press it
[13:31] <Average_Guy> don't c it
[13:31] <coz_> Average_Guy,  did the config window open?
[13:31] <Average_Guy> yes
[13:31] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ok hit  printscreen to create a screenshot and upload to   picpaste.com then give me the link here
[13:32] <coz_> or if you have a dropbox account
[13:32] <coz_> doesnt matter ,, I just need to see the config window
[13:33] <kristian-aalborg> ah... I guess I could simply make a floppy with grub on it, then have an entry that took me to an iso
[13:34] <coz_> kristian-aalborg,  mm I havent done that ,, h ope it works :)
[13:36] <coz_> Average_Guy,  are you having issues with picpaste?
[13:37] <Average_Guy> http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa257/Scarface-Backoff/Screenshot.png
[13:37] <coz_> oo
[13:37] <coz_> Average_Guy,  open a terminal   and type     cairo-dock --version
[13:37] <Average_Guy> k
[13:38] <Average_Guy> 2.0.9-karmic1
[13:38] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ah you are on karmic
[13:38] <coz_> Average_Guy,   is this a new install of ubuntu?
[13:39] <coz_> Average_Guy,    in that same terminal   lsb_release -a
[13:39] <Average_Guy> is say Linux Mint 8
[13:40] <coz_> ok
[13:40] <coz_> Average_Guy,   well in that config panel you can see "Position"   if you click t hat you can set  the dock at the top or sides  if you like
[13:40] <coz_> Average_Guy,  or move your panel to the top of the screen and leave the dock at the bottom
[13:41] <coz_> and I see you do not have composition on
[13:41] <coz_> compositing
[13:41] <Average_Guy> i don't?
[13:41] <coz_> Average_Guy,  let me check mint versions hold on
[13:41] <coz_> Average_Guy,  the current Mint is mint 10
[13:42] <coz_> Average_Guy,  let me ask,,, is there a reason you went with linux Mint instead of  Ubuntu?
[13:43] <coz_> Average_Guy,  if you notice ,, you have a black rectangle around cairo dock.,.. yes?
[13:43] <coz_> maybe not ,, it could be your wallpaper
[13:43] <Average_Guy> actually i have several versions of both distro
[13:43] <coz_> Average_Guy,   which versions of ubuntu do you have?
[13:43] <Average_Guy> yeah rectangle is there
[13:44] <Average_Guy> 10.04 and 10.10 desktop and server
[13:44] <coz_> Average_Guy,   ok  and you dont have compiz  running
[13:44] <coz_> Average_Guy,   on 10.04 and 10.10  there will be different versions of cairo dock
[13:45] <coz_> Average_Guy,  if you dont have compiz running on that mint install open a terminal and type   gconf-editor
[13:46] <Average_Guy> i also have puppy, fedora, slack, suse- all i686 and 64 but linux mint and ONLY version 8 is the only one my keyboard works on. and I cant install without it...
[13:46] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ok ,, well in mint lets get compositing running
[13:46] <coz_> Average_Guy,   open gconf-editor
[13:46] <Average_Guy> yes i have compiz
[13:47] <coz_> Average_Guy, oh!  ok
[13:47] <coz_> Average_Guy,  but it is not running?
[13:47] <Average_Guy> it is
[13:47] <Average_Guy> i believe
[13:47] <coz_> Average_Guy,  mm  are the windows wobbly?
[13:48] <Average_Guy> no, but i can make them
[13:48] <coz_> Average_Guy,  well  open ccsm  and make them wobbly just to test that it is indeed running
[13:48] <Average_Guy> in the manager now
[13:48] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ok enable  Wobbly windows
[13:48] <Average_Guy> dun
[13:49] <Average_Guy> wobbly now
[13:49] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ok are they wobbly now?
[13:49] <Average_Guy> yup
[13:49] <coz_> oh ok
[13:49] <coz_> Average_Guy,  then compositing is on
[13:49] <coz_> Average_Guy,  that black rectangle may just be that themes'  look
[13:49] <coz_> Average_Guy,  on that particular version of cairo dock the "Advanced" button is not present
[13:50] <Average_Guy> yeah, it is i think. just stands out on the background
[13:50] <coz_> Average_Guy,  you can , as I said,, move the dock via the "Position"  plugin in it's config
[13:50] <Average_Guy> yeah i raised it an inch
[13:51] <coz_> Average_Guy,  or set it to the top or sides
[13:51] <coz_> however you prefer it
[13:51] <Average_Guy> trying to theme it now.  i not really one of those ppl trying to make my puter look like a mac
[13:51] <coz_> Average_Guy,  ok cool :)
[13:51] <Average_Guy> I appreciate your help
[13:52] <Average_Guy> really just the difficulty changing the position it exactly y i deleted awn
[13:52] <coz_> Average_Guy,  no problem...if you have more questions about cairo dock you can meet me in the #cairo-dock  channel for official support :)
[13:52] <Average_Guy> sweet
[14:04] <paulskmt5> When shutting down Ubuntu (10.04.2 LTS Desktop) warns always that an "unknown" application is active. How can I troubleshoot this?
[14:22] <nlsthzn-work> sudo apt-get purge unknown (kidding)... I have no idea :/
[15:41] <japtol> hello
[15:42] <japtol> i just installed ubuntu onto a virtual box
[15:42] <japtol> how do i start learning it?
[15:54] <holstein> japtol: maybe pick a specific task
[15:54] <holstein> and go for it
[15:56] <japtol> hmm
[15:56] <japtol> im looking for a small project to work on
[15:56] <japtol> in the ubuntuforums
[15:56] <japtol> holstein: do you know about gazelle?
[15:59] <holstein> im not familiar japtol
[15:59] <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[15:59] <holstein> these guys make nice web appliances
[16:00] <holstein> that work great live
[16:00] <japtol> what r these for?
[16:00] <japtol> can i learn ubunto with them?
[16:00] <holstein> im not sure what you are trying to learn
[16:00] <japtol> i want to learn ubuntu
[16:01] <holstein> but im suggesting that you can learn about certain server elements
[16:01] <japtol> so i can learn how to install gazelle onto my VPS
[16:01] <holstein> that are generic to any platform
[16:01] <japtol> can i learn about them in ubuntu on my virtual box
[16:01] <holstein> http://www.filesharenews.com/2010/05/26/install-gazelle-debianubuntu/
[16:02] <holstein> japtol: you are interested in file sharing?
[16:03] <japtol> yes
[16:03] <japtol> thats what i want to install
[16:03] <holstein> in what capacity?
[16:03] <japtol> right now
[16:04] <japtol> im just interested in learning how to install it
[16:04] <holstein> its easy to set up a torrent server
[16:04] <japtol> havent thought about the torrents yet
[16:04] <japtol> or capacity
[16:04] <holstein> japtol: that link i gave seems to talk about installing gazelle
[16:04] <japtol> im reading it
[16:05] <japtol> so
[16:05] <japtol> i got a VPS
[16:05] <holstein> right
[16:05] <japtol> but im having trouble with the installation steps
[16:05] <japtol> i don't know how to execute some of them
[16:06] <japtol> this is the installation guide im using
[16:06] <japtol> http://what.cd/gazelle/wiki.php?action=article&id=4
[16:06] <japtol> u might get a 404
[16:06] <japtol> u'll have to register to view it :/
[16:07] <holstein> maybe you'd feel more comfortable installing something from the default repositories
[16:08] <japtol> default repositories? like what?
[16:09] <japtol> im using putty
[16:09] <japtol> to log into my root
[16:09] <holstein> japtol: like some other software with that functionality
[16:09] <japtol> for my VPS
[16:09] <japtol> ah..
[16:09] <holstein> something easier to deal with
[16:09] <holstein> what is the goal?
[16:10] <holstein> you can upload and download files via SSH or SFTP
[16:16] <japtol> yes
[16:16] <japtol> im using putty
[16:16] <japtol> to install the gazelle
[16:16] <japtol> my goal is to set up a site like what.cd
[16:16] <japtol> just as an experiment
[16:16] <japtol> i want to make a private website
[16:16] <holstein> putty is just a way for you to connect
[16:16] <japtol> yep im using putty to ssh
[16:17] <holstein> there are ways to do that with content management systems right?
[16:18] <holstein> maybe that would be easier, and give more funcionality as well
[16:19] <holstein> maybe something like http://www.fbloggs.com/2009/06/11/how-to-make-content-private-in-drupal/
[16:24] <japtol> ok
[16:24] <japtol> im not sure
[16:24] <japtol> ill look into it
[16:24] <holstein> japtol: im not a web guy
[16:24] <holstein> but drupal is huge
[16:25] <holstein> drupal joomla and wordpress are well known
[16:25] <holstein> and well supported
[16:25] <japtol> i c
[16:25] <holstein> ive set up test cases of each
[16:25] <japtol> well
[16:25] <holstein> this is the first mention of gazelle
[16:25] <japtol> does that help me install gazelle?
[16:25] <holstein> and by searching around
[16:25] <holstein> its seems more obscure
[16:25] <holstein> but, do-able
[16:26] <holstein> japtol: im suggesting one of those with private content as an alternative to gazelle
[16:26] <holstein> if the goal is to install gazelle
[16:26] <holstein> you'll probably have to contanct someone more envolved in that project
[16:26] <holstein> but, if you want to host private content
[16:26] <holstein> on a webserver
[16:27] <holstein> there are alternatives
[16:27] <holstein> lots of them*
[16:27] <japtol> alright
[16:27] <japtol> thx
[17:01] <paulskmt5> xawtv problem: tuner seems to run free. Some moments I hear sound from a tv channel "passing by" but no video. Was working before. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop
[19:09] <virgo> hi
[19:09] <virgo> my keyboard does not have ^ character
[19:09] <virgo> is there a way to change some settings to get in ob my keyboard
[19:33] <attackulz> I find I get the best help here
[19:33] <attackulz> anyone around?
[19:34]  * holstein is moderately available
[19:35]  * nlsthzn waves but knows nothing so just lurks
[19:35] <attackulz> ahaha you again
[19:35] <attackulz> numpad is out on my laptop. it used to work. about a month ago it went out and all I did was open the keyboard settings and it came back on.. this time its been about 2 weeks and I dont know what the problem is
[19:37] <attackulz> :(
[19:39] <holstein> attackulz: its not a hardware problem?
[19:40] <attackulz> more then likely not.  Its less then a year old
[19:40] <attackulz> and I treat my computer well
[19:40] <holstein> lol
[19:40] <holstein> like that matters
[19:40] <holstein> its a computer ;)
[19:40] <attackulz> and considering last time i oppened up the keyboard menu and it kicked back on tells me its probably not
[19:41] <holstein> that supports the software problem theory
[19:41] <holstein> but, does not confirm it
[19:41] <attackulz> yeah
[19:41] <holstein> attackulz: thats what i use live CD's for
[19:41] <holstein> if you boot up into your OS
[19:41] <attackulz> so pretty much
[19:41] <attackulz> if any hardware is fucking up
[19:41] <holstein> and the numbers dont work
[19:41] <attackulz> i run the live cd
[19:41] <holstein> and they do with a live CD
[19:42] <holstein> then, you can assume its something with your install
[19:42] <attackulz> same ol thing
[19:42] <holstein> attackulz: so, its broken with a live CD too?
[19:42] <attackulz> no i mean same thing as i had to try with my last problem
[19:42] <attackulz> haha
[19:42] <holstein> attackulz: is there a numlock light?
[19:43] <attackulz> yeah. I wish that were the problem
[19:43] <virgo> anyone knows how to get ^ character from keyboard if there is no key with this?
[19:44] <attackulz> its not above the 6...
[19:44] <nlsthzn> virgo: long shot... try openoffice writer... insert character... copy and paste from there?
[19:45] <virgo> haha how do you think i did write this character to this chat
[19:46] <virgo> copy-paste
[19:46] <virgo> thats not the solution i am looking for but yeah, it may be the best
[19:47] <holstein> virgo: whats above 6 ?
[19:47] <attackulz> I have no clue if im right at all because I have not oppened this application yet to see what it does. but what about 'keyboard shortcutts'
[19:47] <virgo> &
[19:47] <holstein> attackulz: is there a numlock light?
[19:47] <attackulz> yeah there is
[19:47] <attackulz> and its not off
[19:47] <holstein> attackulz: so the light comes on
[19:48] <holstein> and it doesnt work?
[19:48] <holstein> does the light do anything?
[19:48] <attackulz> laptop
[19:48] <attackulz> no lite
[19:48] <virgo> ¬¬ these pointless characters would be good to replace with something useful
[19:49] <holstein> virgo: where are you?
[19:49] <holstein> what kind of keyboard is that?
[19:49] <nlsthzn> virgo: do you have US keyboard selected?
[19:49] <virgo> no
[19:49] <virgo> estonian
[19:49] <attackulz> odd.
[19:49] <holstein> yeah, try a US keyboard layout
[19:49] <holstein> and shift+6
[19:50] <virgo> then all the other keys will get messt up
[19:50] <attackulz> oh my fuck
[19:50] <virgo> and no üõöä that are required for my language
[19:50] <holstein> virgo: you should be able to select
[19:50] <holstein> put a shortcut in the panel
[19:50] <holstein> jump between them as needed
[19:50] <attackulz> i got this idea when u mentioned numlock that made me think that maybe the numlock key was not ingaging properly. I took it off and pressed real hard and bam. 45464132165185613
[19:51] <holstein> cool
[19:51] <holstein> seemed so much like hardware
[19:52] <attackulz> apparently
[19:53] <virgo> i had also keyboard hardware problems(wire) some weeks ago, but thats another story :)
[19:54] <virgo> got fixed easy with some soldering
[19:56] <kristian_> hi all
[19:57] <virgo> there is no english keyboard availible on the list :S
[19:57] <kristian_> can I have a wire from my (wifi-enabled) laptop to a desktop, using it as a router=
[19:57] <kristian_> ?
[19:57] <virgo> yes
[19:58] <kristian_> hi virgo
[19:58] <kristian_> what should I ask the google for instructions?
[19:58] <virgo> with latest ubuntu its very easy to share internet like this
[19:58] <kristian_> this is Lubuntu 10.10
[19:58] <virgo> same as mine
[19:59] <kristian_> actually, the laptop has no OS as we speak though
[19:59] <virgo> set LAN ipv4 settings to shared to others
[20:00] <virgo> i have one very old laptop sharing internet like this
[20:00] <virgo> it gets internet from usb stick
[20:00] <virgo> and shares to lan
[20:00] <virgo> you even dont need to install
[20:00] <virgo> just use live cd
[20:00] <kristian_> yes, I guess the router box could easily be very old
[20:00] <virgo> and on the install screen you can setup internet
[20:00] <virgo> mine even does not have HDD
[20:01] <kristian_> livecd of Lubuntu or Ubuntu... or both?
[20:01] <virgo> mine was ubuntu netbook 10.10
[20:02] <virgo> i guess any latest installer should have network setup possibilities before install
[20:03] <kristian_> virgo, something like this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[20:04] <virgo> yes
[20:04] <kristian_> that seems doable ;)
[20:04] <virgo> where does your wireless come?
[20:05] <kristian_> from a router
[20:05] <kristian_> my own... local WAN
[20:05] <virgo> and it doesnt have wire ports?
[20:05] <virgo> for LAN
[20:05] <kristian_> it's in another room, and I only have one short wire ;)
[20:08] <virgo> well, using working laptop as a router is kinda waste, but if you have it anyway, then you can use it
[20:09] <kristian_> it'll only be temporary... two days or so
[20:09] <virgo> ok
[20:13] <Fanshawe> Hello folks. I can't edit recurrences for specific events in Evolution's calendar anymore. What's happened?
[20:13] <kristian_> bbl
[20:26] <japtol> guys
[20:26] <japtol> how do i get into vhost /var/www
[20:26] <japtol> in my root
[20:26] <virgo> cd ..
[20:27] <virgo> 2 times
[20:27] <virgo> and then cd var/www
[20:27] <virgo> in terminal
[20:28] <stlsaint> where are you trying to get into?
[20:31] <stlsaint> virgo: ^^
[20:31] <stlsaint> opps wrong person
[20:31] <stlsaint> anyway you will want to do a /var/www instead of var/www
[20:31] <stlsaint> var/www will make the system assume that there is a var directory in the root folder
[20:32] <John__> I have been running live discs and USB drives without installing.  When I run them, I have no internet or apparent option to connect to it.  The computer's physical button is set to connect.  Any possible reasons?
[20:33] <virgo> stlsaint: there is var directory in root folder
[20:34] <John__> I am completely new at this and have no clue as to what you said.  Sorry.
[20:35] <nlsthzn> John__: hardware your using?
[20:36] <John__> I have a dell laptop studio laptop
[20:38] <nlsthzn> John__: top right there should be a network icon... have you clicked on it and can you see wireless networks being displayed?
[20:39] <John__> I don't rember it. but I should and will check again.
[20:40] <nlsthzn> John__: also, in terminal you can run "sudo ifconfig -a" should show all your network interfaces... look for wlan0... if it is there you can try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" if memory serves...
[20:40] <japtol> guys
[20:40] <japtol> i got a question
[20:41] <japtol> im trying to update software/ package cache
[20:41] <japtol> undrer /var/www
[20:41]  * nlsthzn is a bit of a noob :/
[20:41] <japtol> i type sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:41] <John__> thanks, I will try that
[20:41] <japtol> and ig et the message
[20:41] <japtol> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[20:41] <nlsthzn> japtol: apt0-get?
[20:41] <nlsthzn> japtol: apt-get?
[20:41] <coalwater> hello every one
[20:42] <virgo> hi
[20:42] <japtol> wut r u asking n1sthzn?
[20:42] <japtol> apt-get install aptitude doesnt work either
[20:42] <nlsthzn> why use aptitude, when you can use apt-get... or use apt-get to install aptitide
[20:42] <virgo> you wanna do apt-get update?
[20:42] <japtol> yes
[20:42] <japtol> and upgrade
[20:43] <nlsthzn> then do the above but replace aptitude with apt-get
[20:43] <japtol> thx
[20:43] <virgo> so why cant do "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[20:44] <japtol> ok
[20:44] <japtol> im done with both
[20:44] <japtol> apt-get upgrade, apt-get update
[20:45] <japtol> now  i assume: apt-get install build-essential gcc wget subversion automake libtool make g++ -f mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev zlib1g-dev libpng-dev libmcrypt-dev libxml2-dev libevent-dev libmysqld-dev
[20:46] <japtol> i get this message
[20:46] <japtol> Note, selecting libpng12-dev instead of libpng-dev
[20:46] <japtol> E: Couldn't find package libmysqld-dev
[20:46] <coalwater> any one can help me about ubuntu beginners team?
[20:47] <stlsaint> coalwater: sup what would you like to know?
[20:47] <stlsaint> japtol: means the package you wanted to install doenst exist in repo
[20:47] <coalwater> stlsaint: i did every thing in this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership but i dont know what i need to do now
[20:48] <stlsaint> coalwater: you sent a email to the team ml?
[20:48] <japtol> stlsaint, how do i fix that
[20:48] <stlsaint> japtol: grab the right package ;)
[20:48] <stlsaint> japtol: what is it that you are trying to install
[20:48] <japtol> gazelle
[20:49] <japtol> im just folllowing the installation guide directions
[20:49] <japtol> the first step
[20:49] <japtol> 1. Update software, and package cache:
[20:49] <japtol> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:49] <japtol> i did that already
[20:49] <coalwater> stlsaint:  yea 2 days ago, and duane hinnen replied, then i sent a reply about 21 hours ago, and got another reply about 15 hours ago from the same person
[20:50] <stlsaint> coalwater: alright well the rest is up to you
[20:50] <stlsaint> coalwater: hang out here in the channel and get a feel for everyone
[20:50] <stlsaint> coalwater: eventually you would ask a current mentor to be your mentor
[20:50] <stlsaint> coalwater: if that mentor chooses to take you on then they will handle the rest of the process
[20:50] <coalwater> stlsaint: yea, i put my name on the waiting list lol
[20:51] <stlsaint> coalwater: aye
[20:51] <stlsaint> coalwater: are you currently familiar with ubuntu?
[20:51] <coalwater> yea, started using it regularly like a year ago
[20:52] <stlsaint> coalwater: good good, it would serve best if you offered some support to folks as they come in
[20:52] <stlsaint> coalwater: you do not have to be a member to give support
[20:53] <virgo> but i think you have some more responsibility about what you suggest to people
[20:53] <stlsaint> well of course, if you are found giving harmful advice im sure admin actions will follow
[20:54] <coalwater> rm -rf / lol jk
[20:54] <virgo> if you are some random person like me and tell people to screw hard drive or whatever, then nothing happens to me
[20:54] <stlsaint> virgo: on the contrary you can be quickly banned
[20:55] <stlsaint> no one is protected from the BAN hammer ;)
[20:55] <virgo> true :)
[20:55] <stlsaint> coalwater: aye, never give that ;)
[20:55] <coalwater> im kinda impatient, wish someone could just start showing me how to do some package coding
[20:55] <coalwater> lol
[20:56] <stlsaint> package coding???
[20:56] <coalwater> i mean
[20:56] <stlsaint> That is two different focus groups
[20:56] <coalwater> like packages
[20:56] <stlsaint> packaging? like MOTD?
[20:57] <coalwater> ok i don't know what that is, i just meant like debugging, developing , etc .. i thought i should start here rather than just jump into the other focus group directly
[20:58] <virgo> The Ubuntu Beginners Team exists to enhance the initial experience of new Ubuntu users and to guide existing Ubuntu users to become part of the global Ubuntu community
[20:58] <coalwater> so what are mentors for
[20:58] <coalwater> or masters
[20:58] <virgo> i would want to get to this Beginners Team too some day
[20:58] <stlsaint> mentors help you get acquainted within the team
[20:59] <coalwater> ok so let's say i have some programming experience, but not specifically in ubuntu, what am i supposed to do
[21:00] <seidos> what do you want to do?
[21:00] <virgo> coalwater: lets do some oss project
[21:00] <coalwater> whats oss
[21:01] <virgo> open-source-software
[21:01] <virgo> there are many projects
[21:01] <virgo> and sure need coders
[21:01] <stlsaint> coalwater: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[21:01] <virgo> or you can think something out yourself and make project
[21:02] <coalwater> ok so i should try the begginers dev?
[21:02] <stlsaint> coalwater: sure :)
[21:03] <stlsaint> coalwater: although that will still not grant you BT membership
[21:03] <stlsaint> membership comes upon voting
[21:03] <stlsaint> ol faithful digital democracy
[21:03] <coalwater> nothing comes easy huh lol
[21:03] <stlsaint> nhandler: Hello
[21:04] <stlsaint> nhandler: just saying hello since i havent spoken with ya in some months
[21:04] <coalwater> so votes come by getting recognized by people in the irc?
[21:04] <virgo> i guess you must be pro programmer to get into ubuntu-dev team
[21:04] <stlsaint> coalwater: yep
[21:04] <stlsaint> virgo: nope
[21:04] <coalwater> virgo:  not really pro
[21:05] <stlsaint> virgo: dev membership comes by testing/voting
[21:05] <coalwater> virgo: since i spent some time doing this i could give it to someone to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/coalwater lol
[21:06] <stlsaint> coalwater: did you put that in your letter to the mailing list? (the wiki link)
[21:06] <coalwater> yea, there's an email template in the membership page, i also put my launchpand link
[21:07] <coalwater> lauchpad*
[21:07] <virgo> haha, im trying to learn python also
[21:07] <coalwater> virgo:  python is pretty interesting, and widely used in a lot of things
[21:07] <stlsaint> as i am in python
[21:09] <coalwater> so , what do people do usually in the meetings
[21:10] <stlsaint> discuss team motions and such
[21:10] <nhandler> Howdy stlsaint
[21:15] <coalwater> ok so stlsaint there's something i need to understand a bit, am i supposed to aim at membership here first then switch to the dev focus group or should i just try to get there first, or should i get a master first lol
[21:16] <stlsaint> coalwater: meh, you can enter the dev channel the same way you did here and just get acquainted with folks
[21:16] <stlsaint> no need to put a order on things for now
[21:17] <coalwater> and how do i get the membership then, votes wont come by their selves :D
[21:18] <stlsaint> coalwater: you have to meet and great folks
[21:18] <stlsaint> spend some QT in this channel getting to know folks
[21:19] <stlsaint> your mentor will handle all the other stuff and guide you along
[21:19] <coalwater> :o the dev page has a quick start guide, cool lol
[21:21] <coalwater> that's a huge list to study, guess i know what im gonna do now lol
[21:24] <coalwater> stlsaint: what's QT by the way lol
[21:24] <stlsaint> quality time :D
[21:37] <stlsaint> japtol: sorry bout that
[21:39] <stlsaint> well i must depart for the night good folks
[21:39] <stlsaint> ttyl
[21:49] <holstein> anybody using back in time ?
[21:49] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/stable
[21:59] <coalwater> holstein:  what's it for?
[22:02] <holstein> backups
[22:02] <holstein> coalwater: seems like a time-machine clone
[22:02] <holstein> kinda*
[22:02] <holstein> i mean that only from the description
[22:02] <holstein> i think i'll install it though
[22:02] <coalwater> that sounds like it could come in handy, if that's what it is
[22:06] <japtol> hey
[22:06] <japtol> how do i add extension=memache.so to my php.ni (/usr/local/lib/php.ini_
[22:06] <japtol> in debian 5
[22:06] <japtol> wud appreciate if someone can help me with this
[22:06] <holstein> i would probably use nano japtol
[22:06] <japtol> i cant find the answer in google
[22:06] <holstein> you can just gedit though if you prefer
[22:06] <kristian_> hi again
[22:07] <kristian_> can't get the laptop-router thing working
[22:07] <holstein> kristian_: alborg?
[22:07] <kristian_> holstein, yeah
[22:07] <holstein> kristian_: it seemed really easy from the gnome network manager
[22:08] <kristian_> it sure did :P
[22:08] <holstein> i remember setting it up once really easily
[22:08] <holstein> i forget which way though
[22:08] <holstein> and its been a while
[22:08] <holstein> i think i was coming from wifi
[22:08] <kristian_> this is Lubuntu, so the interface is slightly different
[22:08] <holstein> and sharing the lan on the netbook
[22:08] <holstein> kristian_: the network tool is different too ?
[22:08] <holstein> right?
[22:08] <holstein> thats wicd?
[22:09] <kristian_> I have wifi here also... I want to wire it to a desktop
[22:09] <holstein> i would try downloading a live CD
[22:09] <kristian_> yes, I think it's from LXDE all of it
[22:09] <holstein> with gnome
[22:09] <holstein> 10.10
[22:09] <holstein> and try it from there
[22:09] <holstein> with the gnome network tool
[22:09] <kristian_> hmm
[22:09] <kristian_> I guess I could do that
[22:09] <holstein> *just because it worked for me, and there are guides for that
[22:09] <kristian_> yeah
[22:09] <holstein> then, i bet when you get it going once or twice
[22:09] <holstein> you can figure out how to do it with wicd
[22:10] <kristian_> the thing is that there's an equally "simple" thing for it in my DE
[22:11] <holstein> kristian_: yeah, i just cant confirm that
[22:11] <holstein> since i havet tried in wicd
[22:11] <holstein> i know i got it working once in gnome
[22:12] <holstein> it could be a 'coming soon' feature ;)
[22:12] <kristian_> yes
[22:15] <kristian_> I will look around the house... I think I might have an Ubuntu cd thingie somewhere ;)
[23:23] <kristian-livecd_> holstein, yo
[23:26] <kristian-livecd_> I'm online, wooooh!
[23:26] <holstein> kristian-livecd_: :)
[23:27] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-livecd_: Good going
[23:38] <kristian-livecd_> yeah... I'm still unsure if it's LXDE who's not ready or me who's dumb, though
[23:39]  * MrChrisDruif doesn't know...only you can kristian-livecd_
[23:39] <kristian-livecd_> btw, the "user-friendliness" of the Ubuntu livecd has gotten too far when you have to press a secret key to get to the custom settings... and those settings are necessary to even start from a 2003 high-scale laptop
[23:40] <MrChrisDruif> What custom settings?
[23:40] <kristian-livecd_> nomodeset
[23:41] <kristian-livecd_> also, the "install ubuntu" option, which it booted to halted
[23:41] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...I never needed to use that
[23:44] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu doesn't require so much effort ;-)
[23:44] <kristian-livecd_> MrChrisDruif, I've had to use it for a lot of HW
[23:44] <kristian-livecd_> including my parents' brand new super duper laptop
[23:45] <MrChrisDruif> charlie-tca: Xubuntu is a bit older, isn't it? And it's got full support of Ubuntu/Canonical ;)
[23:45] <charlie-tca> no
[23:45] <charlie-tca> 1st Ubuntu release was in 2005, 1st xubuntu release a year later
[23:46] <kristian-livecd_> it's silly... the beauty of the linux kernel is the possibility to flex around so much hardware
[23:46] <charlie-tca> but xubuntu does not use unity, and doesn't mask the cd menu
[23:46] <MrChrisDruif> charlie-tca: Yeah, and Lubuntu is like a year old?
[23:46] <charlie-tca> something like that
[23:47] <MrChrisDruif> ...and it's not an official derivate yet :)
[23:47] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah, it is older than Lubuntu
[23:47] <charlie-tca> right
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu is official, unsupported derivative, Lubuntu is unofficial, unsupported derivative
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Unsupported? Alright...
[23:50] <charlie-tca> the only supported versions are Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[23:50] <MrChrisDruif> Alright
[23:50] <charlie-tca> We get help from the developers, but no money from Canonical
[23:51] <MrChrisDruif> Well...that is what I meant...support from devs :)
[23:51]  * charlie-tca has to use the disclaimer now, I am the Xubuntu Project Lead
[23:52] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah, we do get support from the devs, for which we are very thankful
[23:52] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[23:53] <seidos> "back alley support"
[23:53] <charlie-tca> We would like to possibly discuss the procedures to become official at UDS. There seems to be nothing actually written for it.
[23:53]  * MrChrisDruif is just a little admin/wiki-worker :P
[23:53] <charlie-tca> heh, I started there in 2007
[23:53]  * seidos is just a little writer
[23:54] <charlie-tca> I started by just making a few spelling corrections on the wiki