[00:02] quit [00:10] Average_Guy: what wireless card do you have? You can get this info by running the following command in the Terminal: lspci | grep Network [00:11] i have :) [00:11] broadcom bcm4312 [00:12] downloaded b43-fwcutter_012.orig.tar from launchpad and hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_38.tar from broadcom [00:13] I THINK it's the STA driver and the broadcom firmware extrector linux wants [00:13] both tarballs are sitting in my home folder on the linux partition now /home/robert/ [00:14] I don't know it they are the right files and I don't know what to do with em [00:17] Average_Guy: ok [00:18] Average_Guy: looks like it is the STA. The good news is that I think it is in the repository [00:19] ok.. so? [00:19] Average_Guy: could you please try the following command: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source [00:20] and it should work with no internet connection? [00:20] I am in wondows 7 right now [00:21] i'll reboot and go try it if ya want [00:21] Average_Guy: ahh, i see. [00:21] ok [00:22] do you have a usb thumbdrive or something you could use to transfer the package? [00:23] i can download in windows and drag to my linux partition. i downloaded hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_38.tar from launchpad which I THINK is the STA driver [00:23] it is already in my home folder on the linux partition [00:24] i am pretty new to linux tho and don't know what to do next [00:25] it is much easier if you can get the .deb file [00:26] where might I look? [00:27] i am looking for it now [00:27] THANK YOU!!!! [00:28] what version of ubuntu [00:29] 10.04 [00:29] ok [00:29] hi [00:30] Average_Guy: did you install 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu? [00:30] who can help me i am using ubuntu 10.10 i386 and sound dosen't work because of dummy driver why this??? also i use virtualbox on a winxp. [00:30] 32 [00:30] Average_Guy: ok [00:30] ... [00:31] hey [00:32] Average_Guy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36%2Bbdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb [00:33] on it.. [00:33] Juest: is it that your sound is shown as Dummy Output in Sound Preferences? [00:34] Average_Guy: to intall that deb you should be able to double-click on it once you are in Ubuntu. or run the command: dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36%2Bbdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb [00:36] ok. then what? this will make the wireless card work? [00:36] i gunna reboot and go try it === casandera_ is now known as hajour1 [00:38] Average_Guy: yes after you install it you will need to reboot [01:02] hey === JuestUbuntu is now known as juest === juest is now known as Juest === Juest is now known as Juesto === Juesto is now known as Juest [05:24] eiriksvin: youve seen http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?p=226952 ? [05:24] ohh let me try that [05:26] my trouble is with wpn111 [05:26] maybe you need to blacklist something [05:26] i cant get netgear rangemax to work [05:26] something that is trying to talk to the device [05:26] idk how to do that stuff [05:26] eiriksvin: are those different things? [05:27] netgeat rangemax wpn111 ? [05:27] yeah [05:27] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-netgear-wg111v2-wireless-dongle-card-on-ubuntu-edgy.html [05:28] thats not it I have Netgear Rangemax USB Wifi Adapter WPN111 [05:28] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/netgear-wpn111-wireless-setup-ubuntu-8-4-a-651429/ [05:28] i still think you just dont have the proper driver [05:28] *windows driver [05:29] but who knows [05:29] eiriksvin: is it netwpn11.inf ? [05:30] 1 sec [05:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652910 [05:30] ^ that is old [05:30] so you dont need to do all of that* [05:30] and you have ndisgtk already installed [05:31] the command "ndiswrapper -l" should come in handy for you [05:33] ok yes its netwpn111.inf [05:34] ok so, let me try that [05:35] this is what I got [05:35] WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release. [05:35] netwpn111 : driver installed [05:35] device (1385:5F01) present [05:36] cool [05:36] thats looking right so far [05:37] but its not lighting up my adapter [05:37] heh [05:37] eiriksvin: is it connecting? [05:37] no [05:37] is it seeing AP's [05:37] ? [05:38] is there a way to scan for them? [05:38] they just show up there [05:38] in the network manager [05:38] where? [05:38] 1 sec [05:38] you just click on the network manager [05:38] and they are there in a list [05:39] *if [05:40] no nothings there [05:40] seems like its still not working then [05:40] only my eth0 [05:40] eiriksvin: this is the XP driver right? [05:41] well i have 2 eth0 and eth1 [05:41] i have no idea what im doing with this im so friggin cunfused.... i am a noob [05:42] nah, you're doing OK [05:42] you just got a challenging piece of hardware [05:42] you should contact netgear [05:42] so they know whats going on [05:43] well thanks, i did manage to get ndiswrapper and the driver in, but idk if its the right one so i tryed to get the updated one... [05:43] eiriksvin: if you can wire it up [05:43] and update the machine [05:43] that can help [05:43] ok, heres the next thing.... [05:44] i had a boot option it went [05:45] to a screen when the computer started that let me choose windows 7 or ubuntu... that was fine [05:45] grub [05:45] !grub [05:45] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [05:46] i still have it but the top ubuntu choice give me a shpeel about having to load a kernal first... thats supposed to be the newest one... but it aint working? [05:46] eiriksvin: run the updates like i suggested [05:47] if its still not working [05:47] let us know [05:48] but it happened after i updated ubuntu [05:48] so, you dont want to update? [05:48] you dont have to* [05:48] well sure, is it easy? [05:48] im proposing you might get an update to that kernel [05:51] ok, thats cool but can it be done via usb? [05:52] in theory you could [05:52] but you'd have to download the updates somehow [05:52] so, im going to say no [05:52] dern, ok... i guess im stick with this for a bit [05:52] yeah? [05:53] do it how you did it last time [05:53] yeah i got no cd [05:53] just plug a wire in [05:53] eiriksvin: a network cable [05:53] and update [05:53] no i got this comp from somone that had it on there but never used ubuntu [05:54] you said you did an update [05:54] and go that kernel [05:54] the newer kernel [05:54] yep, i did [05:54] that wont boot [05:54] just do that again [05:54] and update again [05:54] however you did it that time [05:54] update from this kernel? [05:55] im not srue [05:55] sure* [05:55] just take all the updates that are available [05:55] yeah cus i dont want to lose this too [05:55] lose what? [05:55] that kernel? [05:55] my ubuntu [05:56] just dont remove it [05:56] eiriksvin: updating is usually a good idea [05:56] oh just dont remove the older stuff button? [05:57] theres not a button like that [05:57] packages get replaced [05:57] but the older kernels will just stay there [05:59] ok well im gonna bring my computer back home and get on windows to do some studyin [05:59] i am pretty dumb about all this and i dont want to f thing up any worse [06:00] just keep your data backed up [06:00] yeah will do [06:28] ok, back to work... [06:29] im trying to get the win xp driver for Netgear Rangemax WPN111 going [06:30] the others recognise the device, but they dont let it work... and i cant figure out why [06:31] how do i get ubuntu to make sure theres nothing else going on with the device to not let it work? === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work === mexalokeq is now known as tuxampol [13:19] anyone running 'wbar' dock? [13:20] Average_Guy, I am not sorry [13:23] can you recommend a launcher? awn is overkill [13:24] Average_Guy, well I am on the cairo dock team so I am a bit predjudiced :) [13:24] i been eyeballin that one:) [13:24] Average_Guy, cairo dock is probably the most complex in terms of configuration and the most reliable in my opinion [13:25] Average_Guy, you can install it via synaptic package manager ,, or compile it manually from bzr which would be the developer's versioin [13:25] version [13:25] working on it [13:25] hi coz_ [13:25] Average_Guy, make sure you go into synaptic package manager [13:25] Daniel0108, hey guy [13:25] Average_Guy, hit Search and type in cairo dock [13:25] Average_Guy, there will be several packages there [13:26] Average_Guy, just be sure you install all of the cairo dock packages not cairo (clock) :) [13:26] k [13:26] Average_Guy, do you know w hich video card you have there? [13:27] ati raidon [13:27] thats all i kno off the top [13:27] Average_Guy, ok I believe that should be fine with the opengl options [13:27] Average_Guy, after installation,, you should see the options of starting it under Applications/system tools [13:27] if on gnome [13:27] soo... I have a box with no cd, and I can't get it to boot from USB [13:27] Average_Guy, you want to try the opengl option first [13:28] kristian-aalborg, oooo are you sure the option to boot from usb is in the bios? [13:28] ok [13:28] I'm thinking of installing to an usb pen and then move it over... alternatively I might try to install over network [13:29] Average_Guy, there are not many docks available out there and the two main ones are awn and cairo dock [13:29] ooooooo purdy [13:29] Average_Guy, oh its running now? [13:29] got it up now :) [13:29] Average_Guy, there you go [13:30] Average_Guy, now right click the dock go to Cairo dock and then configuration [13:30] rather Configure [13:30] Average_Guy, the config dialog will open,, at the bottom left of that dialog is an "Advanced": button ,, press it [13:31] don't c it [13:31] Average_Guy, did the config window open? [13:31] yes [13:31] Average_Guy, ok hit printscreen to create a screenshot and upload to picpaste.com then give me the link here [13:32] or if you have a dropbox account [13:32] doesnt matter ,, I just need to see the config window [13:33] ah... I guess I could simply make a floppy with grub on it, then have an entry that took me to an iso [13:34] kristian-aalborg, mm I havent done that ,, h ope it works :) [13:36] Average_Guy, are you having issues with picpaste? [13:37] http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa257/Scarface-Backoff/Screenshot.png [13:37] oo [13:37] Average_Guy, open a terminal and type cairo-dock --version [13:37] k [13:38] 2.0.9-karmic1 [13:38] Average_Guy, ah you are on karmic [13:38] Average_Guy, is this a new install of ubuntu? [13:39] Average_Guy, in that same terminal lsb_release -a [13:39] is say Linux Mint 8 [13:40] ok [13:40] Average_Guy, well in that config panel you can see "Position" if you click t hat you can set the dock at the top or sides if you like [13:40] Average_Guy, or move your panel to the top of the screen and leave the dock at the bottom [13:41] and I see you do not have composition on [13:41] compositing [13:41] i don't? [13:41] Average_Guy, let me check mint versions hold on [13:41] Average_Guy, the current Mint is mint 10 [13:42] Average_Guy, let me ask,,, is there a reason you went with linux Mint instead of Ubuntu? [13:43] Average_Guy, if you notice ,, you have a black rectangle around cairo dock.,.. yes? [13:43] maybe not ,, it could be your wallpaper [13:43] actually i have several versions of both distro [13:43] Average_Guy, which versions of ubuntu do you have? [13:43] yeah rectangle is there [13:44] 10.04 and 10.10 desktop and server [13:44] Average_Guy, ok and you dont have compiz running [13:44] Average_Guy, on 10.04 and 10.10 there will be different versions of cairo dock [13:45] Average_Guy, if you dont have compiz running on that mint install open a terminal and type gconf-editor [13:46] i also have puppy, fedora, slack, suse- all i686 and 64 but linux mint and ONLY version 8 is the only one my keyboard works on. and I cant install without it... [13:46] Average_Guy, ok ,, well in mint lets get compositing running [13:46] Average_Guy, open gconf-editor [13:46] yes i have compiz [13:47] Average_Guy, oh! ok [13:47] Average_Guy, but it is not running? [13:47] it is [13:47] i believe [13:47] Average_Guy, mm are the windows wobbly? [13:48] no, but i can make them [13:48] Average_Guy, well open ccsm and make them wobbly just to test that it is indeed running [13:48] in the manager now [13:48] Average_Guy, ok enable Wobbly windows [13:48] dun [13:49] wobbly now [13:49] Average_Guy, ok are they wobbly now? [13:49] yup [13:49] oh ok [13:49] Average_Guy, then compositing is on [13:49] Average_Guy, that black rectangle may just be that themes' look [13:49] Average_Guy, on that particular version of cairo dock the "Advanced" button is not present [13:50] yeah, it is i think. just stands out on the background [13:50] Average_Guy, you can , as I said,, move the dock via the "Position" plugin in it's config [13:50] yeah i raised it an inch [13:51] Average_Guy, or set it to the top or sides [13:51] however you prefer it [13:51] trying to theme it now. i not really one of those ppl trying to make my puter look like a mac [13:51] Average_Guy, ok cool :) [13:51] I appreciate your help [13:52] really just the difficulty changing the position it exactly y i deleted awn [13:52] Average_Guy, no problem...if you have more questions about cairo dock you can meet me in the #cairo-dock channel for official support :) [13:52] sweet [14:04] When shutting down Ubuntu (10.04.2 LTS Desktop) warns always that an "unknown" application is active. How can I troubleshoot this? [14:22] sudo apt-get purge unknown (kidding)... I have no idea :/ [15:41] hello [15:42] i just installed ubuntu onto a virtual box [15:42] how do i start learning it? [15:54] japtol: maybe pick a specific task [15:54] and go for it [15:56] hmm [15:56] im looking for a small project to work on [15:56] in the ubuntuforums [15:56] holstein: do you know about gazelle? [15:59] im not familiar japtol [15:59] http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ [15:59] these guys make nice web appliances [16:00] that work great live [16:00] what r these for? [16:00] can i learn ubunto with them? [16:00] im not sure what you are trying to learn [16:00] i want to learn ubuntu [16:01] but im suggesting that you can learn about certain server elements [16:01] so i can learn how to install gazelle onto my VPS [16:01] that are generic to any platform [16:01] can i learn about them in ubuntu on my virtual box [16:01] http://www.filesharenews.com/2010/05/26/install-gazelle-debianubuntu/ [16:02] japtol: you are interested in file sharing? [16:03] yes [16:03] thats what i want to install [16:03] in what capacity? [16:03] right now [16:04] im just interested in learning how to install it [16:04] its easy to set up a torrent server [16:04] havent thought about the torrents yet [16:04] or capacity [16:04] japtol: that link i gave seems to talk about installing gazelle [16:04] im reading it [16:05] so [16:05] i got a VPS [16:05] right [16:05] but im having trouble with the installation steps [16:05] i don't know how to execute some of them [16:06] this is the installation guide im using [16:06] http://what.cd/gazelle/wiki.php?action=article&id=4 [16:06] u might get a 404 [16:06] u'll have to register to view it :/ [16:07] maybe you'd feel more comfortable installing something from the default repositories [16:08] default repositories? like what? [16:09] im using putty [16:09] to log into my root [16:09] japtol: like some other software with that functionality [16:09] for my VPS [16:09] ah.. [16:09] something easier to deal with [16:09] what is the goal? [16:10] you can upload and download files via SSH or SFTP [16:16] yes [16:16] im using putty [16:16] to install the gazelle [16:16] my goal is to set up a site like what.cd [16:16] just as an experiment [16:16] i want to make a private website [16:16] putty is just a way for you to connect [16:16] yep im using putty to ssh [16:17] there are ways to do that with content management systems right? [16:18] maybe that would be easier, and give more funcionality as well [16:19] maybe something like http://www.fbloggs.com/2009/06/11/how-to-make-content-private-in-drupal/ [16:24] ok [16:24] im not sure [16:24] ill look into it [16:24] japtol: im not a web guy [16:24] but drupal is huge [16:25] drupal joomla and wordpress are well known [16:25] and well supported [16:25] i c [16:25] ive set up test cases of each [16:25] well [16:25] this is the first mention of gazelle [16:25] does that help me install gazelle? [16:25] and by searching around [16:25] its seems more obscure [16:25] but, do-able [16:26] japtol: im suggesting one of those with private content as an alternative to gazelle [16:26] if the goal is to install gazelle [16:26] you'll probably have to contanct someone more envolved in that project [16:26] but, if you want to host private content [16:26] on a webserver [16:27] there are alternatives [16:27] lots of them* [16:27] alright [16:27] thx [17:01] xawtv problem: tuner seems to run free. Some moments I hear sound from a tv channel "passing by" but no video. Was working before. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop [19:09] hi [19:09] my keyboard does not have ^ character [19:09] is there a way to change some settings to get in ob my keyboard === Hellow is now known as collinp === mexalokeq is now known as tuxampol [19:33] I find I get the best help here [19:33] anyone around? [19:34] * holstein is moderately available [19:35] * nlsthzn waves but knows nothing so just lurks [19:35] ahaha you again [19:35] numpad is out on my laptop. it used to work. about a month ago it went out and all I did was open the keyboard settings and it came back on.. this time its been about 2 weeks and I dont know what the problem is [19:37] :( [19:39] attackulz: its not a hardware problem? [19:40] more then likely not. Its less then a year old [19:40] and I treat my computer well [19:40] lol [19:40] like that matters [19:40] its a computer ;) [19:40] and considering last time i oppened up the keyboard menu and it kicked back on tells me its probably not [19:41] that supports the software problem theory [19:41] but, does not confirm it [19:41] yeah [19:41] attackulz: thats what i use live CD's for [19:41] if you boot up into your OS [19:41] so pretty much [19:41] if any hardware is fucking up [19:41] and the numbers dont work [19:41] i run the live cd [19:41] and they do with a live CD [19:42] then, you can assume its something with your install [19:42] same ol thing [19:42] attackulz: so, its broken with a live CD too? [19:42] no i mean same thing as i had to try with my last problem [19:42] haha [19:42] attackulz: is there a numlock light? [19:43] yeah. I wish that were the problem [19:43] anyone knows how to get ^ character from keyboard if there is no key with this? [19:44] its not above the 6... [19:44] virgo: long shot... try openoffice writer... insert character... copy and paste from there? [19:45] haha how do you think i did write this character to this chat [19:46] copy-paste [19:46] thats not the solution i am looking for but yeah, it may be the best [19:47] virgo: whats above 6 ? [19:47] I have no clue if im right at all because I have not oppened this application yet to see what it does. but what about 'keyboard shortcutts' [19:47] & [19:47] attackulz: is there a numlock light? [19:47] yeah there is [19:47] and its not off [19:47] attackulz: so the light comes on [19:48] and it doesnt work? [19:48] does the light do anything? [19:48] laptop [19:48] no lite [19:48] ¬¬ these pointless characters would be good to replace with something useful [19:49] virgo: where are you? [19:49] what kind of keyboard is that? [19:49] virgo: do you have US keyboard selected? [19:49] no [19:49] estonian [19:49] odd. [19:49] yeah, try a US keyboard layout [19:49] and shift+6 [19:50] then all the other keys will get messt up [19:50] oh my fuck [19:50] and no üõöä that are required for my language [19:50] virgo: you should be able to select [19:50] put a shortcut in the panel [19:50] jump between them as needed [19:50] i got this idea when u mentioned numlock that made me think that maybe the numlock key was not ingaging properly. I took it off and pressed real hard and bam. 45464132165185613 [19:51] cool [19:51] seemed so much like hardware [19:52] apparently [19:53] i had also keyboard hardware problems(wire) some weeks ago, but thats another story :) [19:54] got fixed easy with some soldering [19:56] hi all [19:57] there is no english keyboard availible on the list :S [19:57] can I have a wire from my (wifi-enabled) laptop to a desktop, using it as a router= [19:57] ? [19:57] yes [19:58] hi virgo [19:58] what should I ask the google for instructions? [19:58] with latest ubuntu its very easy to share internet like this [19:58] this is Lubuntu 10.10 [19:58] same as mine [19:59] actually, the laptop has no OS as we speak though [19:59] set LAN ipv4 settings to shared to others [20:00] i have one very old laptop sharing internet like this [20:00] it gets internet from usb stick [20:00] and shares to lan [20:00] you even dont need to install [20:00] just use live cd [20:00] yes, I guess the router box could easily be very old [20:00] and on the install screen you can setup internet [20:00] mine even does not have HDD [20:01] livecd of Lubuntu or Ubuntu... or both? [20:01] mine was ubuntu netbook 10.10 [20:02] i guess any latest installer should have network setup possibilities before install [20:03] virgo, something like this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/ [20:04] yes [20:04] that seems doable ;) [20:04] where does your wireless come? [20:05] from a router [20:05] my own... local WAN [20:05] and it doesnt have wire ports? [20:05] for LAN [20:05] it's in another room, and I only have one short wire ;) [20:08] well, using working laptop as a router is kinda waste, but if you have it anyway, then you can use it [20:09] it'll only be temporary... two days or so [20:09] ok [20:13] Hello folks. I can't edit recurrences for specific events in Evolution's calendar anymore. What's happened? [20:13] bbl [20:26] guys [20:26] how do i get into vhost /var/www [20:26] in my root [20:26] cd .. [20:27] 2 times [20:27] and then cd var/www [20:27] in terminal [20:28] where are you trying to get into? [20:31] virgo: ^^ [20:31] opps wrong person [20:31] anyway you will want to do a /var/www instead of var/www [20:31] var/www will make the system assume that there is a var directory in the root folder [20:32] I have been running live discs and USB drives without installing. When I run them, I have no internet or apparent option to connect to it. The computer's physical button is set to connect. Any possible reasons? [20:33] stlsaint: there is var directory in root folder [20:34] I am completely new at this and have no clue as to what you said. Sorry. [20:35] John__: hardware your using? [20:36] I have a dell laptop studio laptop [20:38] John__: top right there should be a network icon... have you clicked on it and can you see wireless networks being displayed? [20:39] I don't rember it. but I should and will check again. [20:40] John__: also, in terminal you can run "sudo ifconfig -a" should show all your network interfaces... look for wlan0... if it is there you can try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" if memory serves... [20:40] guys [20:40] i got a question [20:41] im trying to update software/ package cache [20:41] undrer /var/www [20:41] * nlsthzn is a bit of a noob :/ [20:41] i type sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [20:41] thanks, I will try that [20:41] and ig et the message [20:41] sudo: aptitude: command not found [20:41] japtol: apt0-get? [20:41] japtol: apt-get? [20:41] hello every one [20:42] hi [20:42] wut r u asking n1sthzn? [20:42] apt-get install aptitude doesnt work either [20:42] why use aptitude, when you can use apt-get... or use apt-get to install aptitide [20:42] you wanna do apt-get update? [20:42] yes [20:42] and upgrade [20:43] then do the above but replace aptitude with apt-get [20:43] thx [20:43] so why cant do "sudo apt-get upgrade" ? [20:44] ok [20:44] im done with both [20:44] apt-get upgrade, apt-get update [20:45] now i assume: apt-get install build-essential gcc wget subversion automake libtool make g++ -f mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev zlib1g-dev libpng-dev libmcrypt-dev libxml2-dev libevent-dev libmysqld-dev [20:46] i get this message [20:46] Note, selecting libpng12-dev instead of libpng-dev [20:46] E: Couldn't find package libmysqld-dev [20:46] any one can help me about ubuntu beginners team? [20:47] coalwater: sup what would you like to know? [20:47] japtol: means the package you wanted to install doenst exist in repo [20:47] stlsaint: i did every thing in this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership but i dont know what i need to do now [20:48] coalwater: you sent a email to the team ml? [20:48] stlsaint, how do i fix that [20:48] japtol: grab the right package ;) [20:48] japtol: what is it that you are trying to install [20:48] gazelle [20:49] im just folllowing the installation guide directions [20:49] the first step [20:49] 1. Update software, and package cache: [20:49] sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [20:49] i did that already [20:49] stlsaint: yea 2 days ago, and duane hinnen replied, then i sent a reply about 21 hours ago, and got another reply about 15 hours ago from the same person [20:50] coalwater: alright well the rest is up to you [20:50] coalwater: hang out here in the channel and get a feel for everyone [20:50] coalwater: eventually you would ask a current mentor to be your mentor [20:50] coalwater: if that mentor chooses to take you on then they will handle the rest of the process [20:50] stlsaint: yea, i put my name on the waiting list lol [20:51] coalwater: aye [20:51] coalwater: are you currently familiar with ubuntu? [20:51] yea, started using it regularly like a year ago [20:52] coalwater: good good, it would serve best if you offered some support to folks as they come in [20:52] coalwater: you do not have to be a member to give support [20:53] but i think you have some more responsibility about what you suggest to people [20:53] well of course, if you are found giving harmful advice im sure admin actions will follow [20:54] rm -rf / lol jk [20:54] if you are some random person like me and tell people to screw hard drive or whatever, then nothing happens to me [20:54] virgo: on the contrary you can be quickly banned [20:55] no one is protected from the BAN hammer ;) [20:55] true :) [20:55] coalwater: aye, never give that ;) [20:55] im kinda impatient, wish someone could just start showing me how to do some package coding [20:55] lol [20:56] package coding??? [20:56] i mean [20:56] That is two different focus groups [20:56] like packages [20:56] packaging? like MOTD? [20:57] ok i don't know what that is, i just meant like debugging, developing , etc .. i thought i should start here rather than just jump into the other focus group directly [20:58] The Ubuntu Beginners Team exists to enhance the initial experience of new Ubuntu users and to guide existing Ubuntu users to become part of the global Ubuntu community [20:58] so what are mentors for [20:58] or masters [20:58] i would want to get to this Beginners Team too some day [20:58] mentors help you get acquainted within the team [20:59] ok so let's say i have some programming experience, but not specifically in ubuntu, what am i supposed to do === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [21:00] what do you want to do? [21:00] coalwater: lets do some oss project [21:00] whats oss [21:01] open-source-software [21:01] there are many projects [21:01] and sure need coders [21:01] coalwater: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [21:01] or you can think something out yourself and make project [21:02] ok so i should try the begginers dev? [21:02] coalwater: sure :) [21:03] coalwater: although that will still not grant you BT membership [21:03] membership comes upon voting [21:03] ol faithful digital democracy [21:03] nothing comes easy huh lol [21:03] nhandler: Hello [21:04] nhandler: just saying hello since i havent spoken with ya in some months [21:04] so votes come by getting recognized by people in the irc? [21:04] i guess you must be pro programmer to get into ubuntu-dev team [21:04] coalwater: yep [21:04] virgo: nope [21:04] virgo: not really pro [21:05] virgo: dev membership comes by testing/voting [21:05] virgo: since i spent some time doing this i could give it to someone to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/coalwater lol [21:06] coalwater: did you put that in your letter to the mailing list? (the wiki link) [21:06] yea, there's an email template in the membership page, i also put my launchpand link [21:07] lauchpad* [21:07] haha, im trying to learn python also [21:07] virgo: python is pretty interesting, and widely used in a lot of things [21:07] as i am in python [21:09] so , what do people do usually in the meetings [21:10] discuss team motions and such [21:10] Howdy stlsaint [21:15] ok so stlsaint there's something i need to understand a bit, am i supposed to aim at membership here first then switch to the dev focus group or should i just try to get there first, or should i get a master first lol [21:16] coalwater: meh, you can enter the dev channel the same way you did here and just get acquainted with folks [21:16] no need to put a order on things for now [21:17] and how do i get the membership then, votes wont come by their selves :D [21:18] coalwater: you have to meet and great folks [21:18] spend some QT in this channel getting to know folks [21:19] your mentor will handle all the other stuff and guide you along [21:19] :o the dev page has a quick start guide, cool lol [21:21] that's a huge list to study, guess i know what im gonna do now lol [21:24] stlsaint: what's QT by the way lol [21:24] quality time :D [21:37] japtol: sorry bout that [21:39] well i must depart for the night good folks [21:39] ttyl [21:49] anybody using back in time ? [21:49] https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/stable === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [21:59] holstein: what's it for? [22:02] backups [22:02] coalwater: seems like a time-machine clone [22:02] kinda* [22:02] i mean that only from the description [22:02] i think i'll install it though [22:02] that sounds like it could come in handy, if that's what it is [22:06] hey [22:06] how do i add extension=memache.so to my php.ni (/usr/local/lib/php.ini_ [22:06] in debian 5 [22:06] wud appreciate if someone can help me with this [22:06] i would probably use nano japtol [22:06] i cant find the answer in google [22:06] you can just gedit though if you prefer [22:06] hi again [22:07] can't get the laptop-router thing working [22:07] kristian_: alborg? [22:07] holstein, yeah [22:07] kristian_: it seemed really easy from the gnome network manager [22:08] it sure did :P [22:08] i remember setting it up once really easily [22:08] i forget which way though [22:08] and its been a while [22:08] i think i was coming from wifi [22:08] this is Lubuntu, so the interface is slightly different [22:08] and sharing the lan on the netbook [22:08] kristian_: the network tool is different too ? [22:08] right? [22:08] thats wicd? [22:09] I have wifi here also... I want to wire it to a desktop [22:09] i would try downloading a live CD [22:09] yes, I think it's from LXDE all of it [22:09] with gnome [22:09] 10.10 [22:09] and try it from there [22:09] with the gnome network tool [22:09] hmm [22:09] I guess I could do that [22:09] *just because it worked for me, and there are guides for that [22:09] yeah [22:09] then, i bet when you get it going once or twice [22:09] you can figure out how to do it with wicd [22:10] the thing is that there's an equally "simple" thing for it in my DE [22:11] kristian_: yeah, i just cant confirm that [22:11] since i havet tried in wicd [22:11] i know i got it working once in gnome [22:12] it could be a 'coming soon' feature ;) [22:12] yes [22:15] I will look around the house... I think I might have an Ubuntu cd thingie somewhere ;) === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [23:23] holstein, yo [23:26] I'm online, wooooh! [23:26] kristian-livecd_: :) [23:27] kristian-livecd_: Good going [23:38] yeah... I'm still unsure if it's LXDE who's not ready or me who's dumb, though [23:39] * MrChrisDruif doesn't know...only you can kristian-livecd_ [23:39] btw, the "user-friendliness" of the Ubuntu livecd has gotten too far when you have to press a secret key to get to the custom settings... and those settings are necessary to even start from a 2003 high-scale laptop [23:40] What custom settings? [23:40] nomodeset [23:41] also, the "install ubuntu" option, which it booted to halted [23:41] Alright...I never needed to use that [23:44] Xubuntu doesn't require so much effort ;-) [23:44] MrChrisDruif, I've had to use it for a lot of HW [23:44] including my parents' brand new super duper laptop [23:45] charlie-tca: Xubuntu is a bit older, isn't it? And it's got full support of Ubuntu/Canonical ;) [23:45] no [23:45] 1st Ubuntu release was in 2005, 1st xubuntu release a year later [23:46] it's silly... the beauty of the linux kernel is the possibility to flex around so much hardware [23:46] but xubuntu does not use unity, and doesn't mask the cd menu [23:46] charlie-tca: Yeah, and Lubuntu is like a year old? [23:46] something like that [23:47] ...and it's not an official derivate yet :) [23:47] oh, yeah, it is older than Lubuntu [23:47] right [23:47] Xubuntu is official, unsupported derivative, Lubuntu is unofficial, unsupported derivative [23:49] Unsupported? Alright... [23:50] the only supported versions are Ubuntu and Kubuntu [23:50] Alright [23:50] We get help from the developers, but no money from Canonical [23:51] Well...that is what I meant...support from devs :) [23:51] * charlie-tca has to use the disclaimer now, I am the Xubuntu Project Lead [23:52] oh, yeah, we do get support from the devs, for which we are very thankful [23:52] :) [23:53] "back alley support" [23:53] We would like to possibly discuss the procedures to become official at UDS. There seems to be nothing actually written for it. [23:53] * MrChrisDruif is just a little admin/wiki-worker :P [23:53] heh, I started there in 2007 [23:53] * seidos is just a little writer [23:54] I started by just making a few spelling corrections on the wiki