[08:22] <vish> jbicha: why is gksu nautilus better than gksudo nautilus ? (curious)
[08:23] <vish> (noticed it in your docs update)
[08:25] <jbicha> um, I read the man page and gksu seemed smarter
[08:25] <jbicha> it is at least shhorter
[08:25] <jbicha> shorter
[08:34] <vish> jbicha: hmm, the only benefit i see is that gksu offers a prompt if we dont specify a command
[08:35] <vish> but we do mention nautilus here..
[08:36] <jbicha> vish: yeah they basically do the same thing, but one's shorter
[08:37] <jbicha> vish: I'm actually a bit surprised you noticed the change since it's not been committed yet
[08:37] <vish> ;)
[08:38] <vish> jbicha: shorter ;p , i think sudo is more preferable since the sudoers file and all
[08:38] <jbicha> vish: you mean you think they don't do the same thing?
[08:39] <vish> jbicha: /etc/sudoers is used by sudo, but i dont think su user it, a lot of options are set there..
[08:40] <vish> s/user/users
[08:40] <vish> err, uses*
[08:40] <micahg> jbicha: we should be using gksudo since we don't encourage running as root
[08:41] <jbicha> but sudo is root and su uses /etc/sudoers
[08:43] <vish> su is root but sudo can specify which users can be root
[08:43] <micahg> sudo runs a single command as root, su leaves you in a root shell
[08:44] <jbicha> micahg: do you agree that gksudo is better?
[08:46] <jbicha> http://askubuntu.com/questions/21033/what-is-the-difference-between-gksudo-and-gksu
[08:48] <micahg> yeah, it seems like I have the gconf key set, idk if that's the default or not though, with that key set, there's no practical difference unless you use other flags
[08:50] <micahg> so, while practically there is no difference, people might wonder about it
[09:01] <vish> hmm, looks like we dont have the package gksudo??!! but there is kdesudo
[09:02] <vish> maybe the symlink is because it aint packaged? /me looks deeper
[09:02] <micahg> vish: it's all provided by gksu
[09:02] <vish> oh!
[09:03] <micahg> vish: both backends are provided by libgksu
[09:03] <micahg> err, both backends can be used by libgksu
[09:03] <vish> yea, seems so.
[09:08] <vish> ah ha! while it is a symlink, they do different things
[09:08] <vish> gksu != gksudp
[09:08] <vish> gksudo*
[09:11] <vish> yea, the gconf set as sudo seems to be the default.. i have the same thing here..
[09:12] <micahg> vish: yeah, which makes them effectively equal by default
[09:13] <vish>  yea, equal but it is not really su , hence the users will wonder as you say :D
[09:40] <padv> Hello, I just saw that my membership for ubuntu-bugcontrol expired, can somebody reactivate?
[09:40] <padv> wi padv
[09:41] <padv> my lp id is pascal-devuyst
[09:47] <vish> bdmurray, hggdh ^
[13:02] <njin> hello, there's someone using kubuntu'
[13:03] <njin> with encryption i don't have the request for the passphrase
[13:03] <njin> at the first boot
[13:05] <Abhijit> njin, support in #ubuntu
[13:05] <njin> Abhijit: thanks i'm testing
[13:06] <njin> and this is a bug that i've to open
[13:06] <njin> but at wich package assign ?
[13:07] <njin> it works in gnome and not in kde
[13:07] <njin> i'm going to look in ubuntu chan
[13:34] <akshatj> njin, ask in #kubuntu-devel , maybe they will know
[18:24] <vish> !away | tubadaz
[18:24] <ubot4> tubadaz: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[19:27] <njin> bg
[20:08] <cjae> Has this ever been fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avidemux/+bug/496739
[20:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 496739 in avidemux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Encoding MKV green screen (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged]
[20:09] <cjae> because I am using 10.10 and it still seems to be there