[00:11] <tomreyn> thanks for your help + bye for now
[00:14] <penguin42> Ampelbein: I guess for things which take plugins you could ask that those packages have a command line --test-plugin thing that the plugin packages use during their build phase ?
[00:14] <tumbleweed> oh right, argument order
[00:14] <tumbleweed> -lotr -fPIC
[00:15] <Ampelbein> penguin42: that would make things easier, yes.
[00:18] <Ampelbein> having the actual command line instead of a "* Building plugin otr.so" would be a great help debugging, too.
[00:20]  * tumbleweed is forwarding a bug to debian
[00:22] <Ampelbein> anyway, objdump shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/598065/, as expected
[00:35] <tumbleweed> Ampelbein: odd, no-add-needed made no difference for me (and it's the default in Debian now, anyway)
[04:13] <hyperair> hmmm. to upgrade ubuntu, or not to upgrade ubuntu, that is the question.
[04:15] <ohsix> only thing that annoyed me was the changes brought with compiz .8 -> .9; i got over it
[05:13] <hyperair> ohsix: hmm i think i'm fine with those. i'm already running compiz git.
[10:25] <hyperair> hmm
[10:25] <hyperair> all my keybindings have been wiped out
[10:25] <hyperair> how nice.
[15:52] <m4n1sh> when checking for a version of zeitgeist in configure.ac
[15:52] <m4n1sh> which one should be used?
[15:52] <m4n1sh> PKG_CHECK_MODULES
[15:52] <m4n1sh> or
[15:52] <m4n1sh> AC_PATH_PROG
[15:52] <m4n1sh> I used PKG_CHECK_MODULES and it works.
[15:52] <m4n1sh> is PKG_CHECK_MODULES correct or it should be done by AC_PATH_PROG
[15:53] <m4n1sh> AC_PATH_PROG is for checking the path. Right? and other for checking the existence of module
[15:56] <cjwatson> if something has a pkg-config module available, you should generally use PKG_CHECK_MODULES
[16:53] <m4n1sh> cjwatson: thanks :)
[17:47] <joseZ33> hi everyone
[21:14] <exobuzz> natty mousetweaks is gnome 3, the gnome-mouse-properties is gnome 2.32 and they are incompatible. how can i help you to notice that mousetweaks including mouse accessibility is completely broken currently in natty, before you release and get some bad press relating to it ?
[21:14] <exobuzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/762806
[21:15] <exobuzz> the last post points to the problem after I was unsure when posting "There's a version mismatch between mousetweaks and gnome-control-center + gnome-settings-daemon. The GNOME 3 versions of these modules use dconf for configuration and the 2.32 versions use gconf. Downgrading mousetweaks to 2.32 will fix it. (or upgrading the others)"
[21:16] <jbicha> g-c-c definitely won't be upgraded to 3.0
[21:16] <exobuzz> then mousetweaks should be downgraded again.
[21:16] <exobuzz> wlse you are basically saying "no disabled users please"
[21:17] <exobuzz> (and also no single click touchscreen users)
[21:18] <exobuzz> i currently maintain a touchscreen ubuntu distribution for the o2 joggler (http://joggler.exotica.org.uk) - and that is my current solution, to use mavericks mousetweaks. however this is quite a significant bug imho, when it comes to accessibility
[21:19] <exobuzz> if any dev can give this some attention, it would be most appreciated (by all the users who need it), and by yourselves from avoiding plenty of complaints ;-)
[21:47] <sladen> exobuzz: /me reads the background
[21:48] <exobuzz> looks like it is assigned correctly now with a priority so hopefully the bug gets fixed
[21:51] <sladen> exobuzz: for bug #762806 would you be able to add a simple idiots guide for reproducing the issue (eg. a sequence of steps that works with mousetweaks version 2.XYZ and failes with mousetweaks version 3.XYZ)
[22:32] <exobuzz> sladen, done.
[22:32] <exobuzz> sladen, did you mean on the bug or here? well it's on the bug now. heh
[22:37] <sladen> exobuzz: on the bug is much better and stops it getting lost (IRC eventually scrolls off people's terminals)
[22:42] <exobuzz> heh yeh, i wasnt sure if you were asking for yourself or in general, but anyway, quite easy to reproduce since all mouse accessibility is broken on natty
[22:42] <exobuzz> let's hope the ubuntu-updates comes quickly after release.