[02:02] <david234_> any one here use checkinstall ?
[02:04] <david234_> I am install a .deb that calls the mkdir command, is there an easy way to make all the mkdir commands, "mkdir -p" commands ?
[03:25] <thebigt> im having problems getting my install cd to boot. im useing a cd that i know is good, did my bios and unpluged the other cd rom .any thing else i can try?
[03:54] <thebigt> anyone here
[03:55] <MK``> Hi I was wondering if I could get some information: What packages does Ubuntu Server include compared to the Desktop edition? Is it just minus the games, office stuff, and GNOME?
[04:09] <thebigt> i think there is some server specific pacages too but dont quote me
[04:12] <thebigt> also i got it figured it out im just a idiot that tried to put a dvd into cdrom
[04:14] <MK``> Haha I have a CD-ROM drive
[04:14] <MK``> it's in my tower but it's not even plugged into the mobo
[04:15] <MK``> anyway I looked up my question and found an FAQ on the site:
[04:16] <MK``> *The first difference is in the CD contents. The "Server" CD avoids including what Ubuntu considers desktop packages (packages like X, Gnome or KDE), but does include server related packages (Apache2, Bind9 and so on). Using a Desktop CD with a minimal installation and installing, for example, apache2 from the network, one can obtain the exact same result that can be obtained by inserting the Server CD and installing apache2
[04:16] <MK``>  from the CD-ROM. *The Ubuntu Server Edition installation process is slightly different from the Desktop Edition. Since by default Ubuntu Server doesn't have a GUI, the process is menu driven, very similar to the Alternate CD installation process. * Ubuntu server installs a server-optimized kernel by default.
[04:16] <thebigt> i thougt about ripping mine out of the damn thing after i figured it out
[04:21] <MK``> heh; so I guess the major difference is the kernel.
[04:25] <thebigt> im not too sure i haven gotten too in to it yet im just getting 2nd server going
[04:32] <MK``> Seems the kernel changes between generic and server are pretty tiny heh
[04:32] <MK``> just small optimizations
[04:34] <thebigt> it seem to run nice i stream music off a10+ year old computer no problem
[04:35] <MK``> i/o scheduling type seems to be the biggest change
[04:35] <MK``> server prioritizes read requests over write requests
[04:35] <MK``> desktop treats them equally
[04:36] <CrazyGir> hello! am I correct in believing ubuntu-server is missing common packages like man pages? (man-db)
[04:37] <CrazyGir> while I have grub, I am also missing /etc/default/grub, which seems odd
[04:38] <MK``> I can't help here :) sounds strange it'd be missing the manuals though
[04:39] <pmatulis> CrazyGir: how (and what release) did you install?
[04:43] <CrazyGir> this is a  10.10 kvm vm, installed with vm-builder, from the officil mirrors, including main and I believe universe.
[04:43] <CrazyGir> MK``: I was able to iinstall them with apt, but yea.. I'm curious what else it is missing
[04:43] <CrazyGir> as well as what may have been needed to have been done differently during install or somethin
[04:46] <CrazyGir> pmatulis: ^
[04:51] <pmatulis> CrazyGir: right, you used vmbuilder (jeos).  that will not give you a lot of packages (such as 'man')
[04:52] <pmatulis> !jeos | CrazyGir
[05:03] <CrazyGir> pmatulis: interesting, would this be due to my using the server release, where as one of my co-admins used the generic release?
[05:07] <CrazyGir> pmatulis: unfortunately, that link just redirects you to a page with _far_ less informaiton
[05:07] <CrazyGir> is there a way to get a specific list of what packages are missing?
[05:07] <CrazyGir> and any insight into why grub doesn't have /etc/default/grub?
[07:16] <DrkMachine> hello
[07:27] <DrkMachine> I am having an issue with seeing my Samba shares over openvpn on ubuntu server 10.10.
[07:32] <DrkMachine> wow another dead end.
[11:00] <eichi> hello. how can I test, of my server reaches its dns server? ping does not work
[11:00] <eichi> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[11:39] <cortex_sk> eichi: dig
[11:39] <cortex_sk> or traceroute?
[11:45] <eichi> cortex_sk: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:45] <cortex_sk> eichi: try dig google.com @8.8.8.8
[11:46] <eichi> same :(
[11:47] <eichi> think, its a firewall problem
[11:48] <eichi> but dns is allowed input and output
[14:43] <Liberty> is there any good reason for me to upgrade from 10.4 to 11.4 ?
[14:44] <Liberty> hmmm....
[14:47] <Liberty> hello
[14:48]  * Liberty is trying to understand a good upgrade path fr his server
[14:49] <Liberty> should I upgrade from 10.4 to 11.4?
[14:50] <RoyK> Liberty: for servers, staying at LTS releases is usually the best, unless you need some new software in the newer versions
[14:50] <RoyK> if you want to upgrade 10.04, that should be upgraded to either 10.10 or to the next LTS release, 12.04, when that arrives
[14:52] <Liberty> kewl .. thats what I have been wondering ..   I dread the idea of reconguring.. and it seems servrs doesn't change so much between releases
[14:53] <RoyK> Liberty: some things always change, but LTS releases are generally safe
[14:56] <Liberty> yeah I am at 10.4 on the desktop, but I might regret not updating those till LTS, but the server works hate to mess with it
[15:02] <RoyK> I generally keep servers untouched unless there's a good reason for upgrading
[15:02] <RoyK> a new LTS release isn't necessarily a good reason alone
[15:45] <kellnola> samba 4 would be a good reason to upgrade to 12.04 (if indeed it makes it in)
[15:45] <kellnola> but unless there's something very pressing I would not upgrade a server until around EOL time
[18:05] <nixoninnes> Hey. Im having some problems with my java vm, it keeps randomly crashing . I've tried both sun & openJDK, both behave the same
[21:06] <nixoninnes> Hey everyone. Im having some problems with my Java VM (64bit).; it's very unstable, and keeps crashing.  I've tried both openJDK and sun, but both behave the same way. Im running an AMD core &  ATI drivers for mobo utilities. I've read that there are some problems with Java and some ATI drivers, however I thought this was only graphics related and my server doesnt use a GUI. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing the VM to implod
[21:06] <nixoninnes> e?
[21:08] <nixoninnes> Sorry, just to add to that; it's typically libjvm which is the "problematic frame"
[21:10] <lenios_> is there something in the logs?
[21:10] <lenios_> crash report or something
[21:14] <nixoninnes> Yeah, i'll paste the head of it:
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #  SIGBUS (0x7) at pc=0x00007f0448cdcd65, pid=1748, tid=139656217216768
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode linux-amd64 compressed oops)
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # Problematic frame:
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # V  [libjvm.so+0x18cd65]
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #
[21:14] <nixoninnes> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
[21:14] <nixoninnes> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
[21:17] <nixoninnes> the full paste is here http://pastebin.com/dQ7LzgLq
[21:17] <guntbert> !pastebin | nixoninnes
[21:19] <nixoninnes> Sorry; http://paste.ubuntu.com/598419/
[21:19] <RoyK> 22:14 < nixoninnes> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
[21:20] <nixoninnes> Yeah, I've submitted a bug report; but was just checking with you guys whether you'd seen anything similar for a quicker fix
[21:29] <anonissimus> I added a virtual host to apache but it does not seem to work, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html but blog.domain.tld does not show even though it points to /var/www/blog
[21:30] <anonissimus> if I check apache2ctl -S it reports it right
[21:31] <RoyK> does it show up in `ps axf`?
[21:32] <RoyK> I've seen apache turn zombie for some time after a reload
[21:32] <RoyK> doesn't last long, though
[21:33] <anonissimus> seems to be fine, though I don't know what that should return
[21:33] <anonissimus> the main instance works
[21:33] <anonissimus> domain.tld shows the main page
[21:39] <anonissimus> RoyK: any other ideas?
[21:40] <RoyK> sorry, no
[21:42] <anonissimus> no probs, this has been a bitch so far, first followed the apache instructions, then followed the ubuntu instructions
[21:42] <anonissimus> now lost with only the main domain working
[22:34] <anonissimus> anyone around to help me with this apache virtual host issue?