[02:09] <Kokito> howdy
[09:22] <mauri> my internet connettion with natty is tooooooo slow
[09:22] <mauri> what i should do
[09:27] <mauri> is there anyone that can help me
[14:07] <ScottL> can someone help check some ISO's?  if these aren't checked then we don't release
[14:07] <ScottL> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all
[14:08] <ScottL> mainly need help with amd64, i'm working though the i386
[16:11] <holstein> ScottL: i can hopefully do that tomorrow
[16:11] <holstein> maybe even later today
[16:12] <holstein> i'll check in and see who's doing what
[16:12] <holstein> ScottL: im unclear about something from the UI thread thats going on
[16:12] <holstein> Docky doesn't accomplish as much of the "panel replacement" requirements as AWN
[16:12] <holstein> ^
[16:13] <holstein> i feel like we are introducing a new element
[16:13] <holstein> more so than replacing a panel
[16:13] <holstein> since the top panel is staying in place
[16:13] <holstein> and we are adding something to the current UI
[16:13] <holstein> so its not really limited by past functionality
[16:39] <ScottL> holstein, i'm not sure the top panel is really staying in place
[16:40] <ScottL> i agree that having both the top panel and the dock would be doubly redundant
[16:40] <holstein> oh yeah?
[16:40] <holstein> this is a panel replacement?
[16:41] <holstein> i havnet seen that screenshot yet
[16:41] <holstein> with just a dock and no panel
[16:41] <ScottL> cory posted one from imagebin (i think) that just had the dock at the bottom
[16:41] <ScottL> i've been using something similar for a week or so and i'm digging it
[16:41] <holstein> i'll have to search for it
[16:41] <holstein> i was really liking the xubuntu default
[16:42] <holstein> with a transparent panel as a dock
[16:43] <ScottL> holstein, that is certainly an option
[16:44] <ScottL> within the next month we need to solidify the UI layout
[16:44] <ScottL> we seem to be over the hump with the xfce direction
[16:44] <holstein> yeah, im going to keep quiet
[16:44] <ScottL> holstein, nah, say what you want to say, if people don't voice their opinions then no one knows how everyone else feels
[16:45] <holstein> i have, and its cool
[16:45] <ScottL> holstein, which UI thread is that?  i want to mention that we should be making a decision during next month
[16:45] <holstein> again, i know how to get rid of whatever dock
[17:11] <ScottL> holstein, screenshots aside, if you had your choice (forget what is possible or not possible), what would you like the UI to be like?
[17:32] <macinnisrr> ScottL; how's your unity experience been?
[17:41] <ScottL> macinnisrr, ah, i
[17:41] <ScottL> crap he's gone alrady
[17:41] <ScottL> already even
[18:15] <ScottL> holstein, i think i saw the posts you were talking about earlier
[19:04] <holstein> ScottL: sorry i got busy there for a bit
[19:04] <ScottL> no problem, holstein , i thought you were mad at me :P
[19:04] <holstein> hehe
[19:05] <holstein> well, i want to be cleat that i really dont care about the UI
[19:05] <holstein> i can totally fade into the background on that one
[19:05] <holstein> i just dont like docks
[19:07] <ScottL> i'm curious why you don't like docks, don't they more or less function the same as a panel?
[19:07] <holstein> sure
[19:07] <ScottL> do you point quick launch icons on the panel?
[19:07] <holstein> thats another reason why i dont get it
[19:07] <holstein> i mean, theres a panel
[19:07] <holstein> already there
[19:07] <holstein> why add another piece of software?
[19:07] <holstein> and the overhead?
[19:07] <ScottL> hmmm, good point
[19:08] <holstein> but, comparing the XFCE panel and AWN isnt really fair
[19:08] <holstein> way more funcionality
[19:08] <holstein> AND, i feel like its such an OSX look
[19:08] <holstein> which is not bad
[19:09] <holstein> just not my thing
[19:13] <ScottL> especially if we get a "workflow" dock, that would really bring in new functionality :)
[19:16] <holstein> ScottL: i like the idea of the workflows
[19:16] <holstein> and the workflow dock is something unique
[19:16] <holstein> pretty sure i wont use them
[19:16] <holstein> BUT
[19:16] <holstein> i think its awesome and unique
[19:16] <holstein> and a great way for beginners to figure out what to do