[00:29] <bc81> hi.  i'm trying to edit settings with the settings editor.  how can i lock the settings for window-height and width, the buttons don't work, or seem to be useless.
[00:30] <bc81> xubuntu 10.10
[01:00] <xubuntu368> hola
[01:24] <fubada> hi
[01:25] <fubada> how easy will it be to go from 11.04 beta to 11.04 release
[01:25] <fubada> im setting up 3 laptops, unsure if I want 10.10 or 11.04 beta given that there are 5 days left until release
[01:25] <charlie-tca> !final > fubada
[01:26] <fubada> cool
[01:26] <fubada> i want to use network users, that is working with ldap, but local home directories
[01:26] <fubada> due to issues with nfs locking etc
[01:26] <fubada> whats the best way to do this
[01:27] <fubada> do I have to mkdir /home/user on each client?
[01:57] <sakuragno> hallo
[01:58] <sakuragno> someone here?
[01:58] <fubada> hi
[01:58] <sakuragno> oh! :D hallo :d
[01:58] <sakuragno> :D
[01:58] <sakuragno> ii know it's 3o'c
[01:58] <sakuragno> but i've a terrible problem with xubuntu and notebook :D
[01:58] <sakuragno> can u help me?
[01:58] <sakuragno> i assure i'm not a noob
[01:59] <sakuragno> ehehe did u runned away?!
[02:00] <fubada> whats the problem
[02:00] <bc81> thnks anyway, i just learned about ssh!  very nice compared to vnc
[02:01] <fubada> just learned about ssh eh
[02:01] <fubada> rough
[02:01] <sakuragno> ok
[02:01] <sakuragno> i explain the problem
[02:01] <sakuragno> i've a fujitsu Amilo L7320 here at workplace
[02:02] <sakuragno> and i wanted to install xubuntu (bt same problem with ubuntu and others)
[02:02] <fubada> ok i use ubuntu but ill try to help
[02:02] <fubada> whats wrong
[02:02] <sakuragno> first of all i'd to cofigure manually the xorg.conf about resolution problems
[02:02] <sakuragno> and now i'm ok
[02:02] <sakuragno> i maked work also the alsa drivers and whatever in the sistem
[02:03] <sakuragno> but now a problem remains
[02:03] <sakuragno> after few seconds of idle
[02:03] <sakuragno> the system freeze
[02:03] <fubada> ha!
[02:03] <fubada> i have the same problem
[02:03] <sakuragno> and i've to press the powerbutton and reboot :D
[02:03] <fubada> im installing 11.04 to try and fix
[02:03] <sakuragno> i also added noapic nolapic to grub configuration
[02:03] <sakuragno> ah ok ^_^ so it's a common not solved problem
[02:04] <fubada> i have 3 identical machines with 10.10 on them, and i KEEp hearing from users that the machines freezes
[02:04] <sakuragno> but 11.4 it's still a beta no?!
[02:04] <fubada> randomly
[02:04] <sakuragno> yep
[02:04] <fubada> its a beta but its released on 4/28
[02:04] <fubada> 5 days
[02:04] <fubada> and its just dist-upgrade
[02:04] <fubada> to sync up
[02:04] <sakuragno> i think it's an apic problem .. in the bios i also set no I\O sharing .. but nothing.. still freezing on idle ^^
[02:05] <fubada> my users say the mouse is still movable..but no click actions
[02:05] <fubada> is that your situation?
[02:05] <sakuragno> perferc :D
[02:05] <sakuragno> perfect
[02:05] <sakuragno> that situation
[02:05] <fubada> shit
[02:05] <sakuragno> mouse work but nothing happens
[02:05] <fubada> yea exactly
[02:05] <bazhang> fubada, no cursing here
[02:05] <sakuragno> i think the peripheals shut down from cpu.. but not from system.. so it hang up and then freeze
[02:08] <fubada> yes cant shut down
[02:08] <fubada> i thought it was due to my /home beign Nfs mounted
[02:08] <fubada> this is good news
[02:08] <fubada> im hoping 11.04 will help
[02:08] <fubada> otherwise i have to use another linux distro
[02:08] <sakuragno> hmmm maybe with a new kernel
[02:09] <sakuragno> but i really dont know..
[02:09] <fubada> i thought my issue was related to multiple network logins from the same user and nfs locking
[02:09] <fubada> im glad that is not the case
[02:10] <fubada> im also looking for a bios update
[02:10] <sakuragno> yep i tryed.. but for amiloL7320 that's an old machine working with hamster
[02:10] <sakuragno> its' impossible to upgrade bios without a floppy and a window os :D
[02:11] <fubada> yikes
[02:14] <sakuragno> yep :D
[02:14] <sakuragno> that's hard situation :D
[02:14] <sakuragno> really
[02:15] <fubada> dude im in the same boat now
[02:15] <fubada> need windows to install the new bios ver
[02:15] <fubada> this sucks
[02:15] <sakuragno> i'm goin to buy an axe :D
[02:16] <charlie-tca> check for an update using DOS, you could do that with FreeDOS, instead of windows
[02:16] <sakuragno> not supported from fujutsu support site :d
[02:17] <fubada> it says i need either winxp or win7
[02:17] <sakuragno> look for now i'm solving in that way
[02:17] <sakuragno> i open a freewebradio and leave it down
[02:17] <sakuragno> so the system doesnt idle
[02:17] <sakuragno> and dont blow up
[02:18] <fubada> we are running a web radio too
[02:18] <fubada> new radio
[02:25] <sakuragno> ffgfgfg
[02:25] <sakuragno> only solution :D
[02:26] <sakuragno> tryin to figure anyway
[02:26] <sakuragno> i'll let u know
[02:26] <sakuragno> bye
[02:26] <sakuragno> :D
[04:58] <uofm49426> how do i config a closing screen and what happens when i open the screen
[04:59] <uofm49426> everytime my screen close buy per-pis or accident it dont come back i have to shut it down
[04:59] <uofm49426> everytime my screen close by per-pis or accident it dont come back i have to shut it down
[05:01] <Unit193> uofm49426: Check the xfce4 power manager
[05:01] <uofm49426> with my old acer 5515 with intrepid i would just go alt ctrl f6 or f4 the push ctrl alt f7 and i would come back
[05:04] <uofm49426> does sleep work well on xubuntu or i shouldnt use
[05:04] <uofm49426> is there problems with wakeup
[05:06] <Unit193> I don't know. I don't use Xubuntu on a laptop
[05:10] <uofm49426> still happen
[05:10] <uofm49426> screen lights up but on desktop
[05:12] <uofm49426> is there a package for thinkpads to stop this
[05:15] <Unit193> There is this tpb and hdapsd
[05:16] <uofm49426> i see that but is there something for screens
[05:17] <Unit193> apt-cache search thinkpad didn't come up with much
[05:18] <uofm49426> the laptop had a little button that turns screen off the old setting had it on lock i put it on nothing and still does it
[05:21] <uofm49426> lighted screen no desktop the why i use to deal with this was ctrl alt and f4 or 5 or 6 to go to termal mode the ctrl alt f7 and the desktop would come back
[05:21] <uofm49426> that was on intrepid
[05:22] <uofm49426> using 10.10 and that dont even work
[05:22] <Unit193> Try the LiveCD or USB of 11.04? (Really, I can't help...)
[05:30] <MK``> Maybe you guys can help: After burning a number of CDs, Ubuntu no longer seems to recognize CDs correctly for me. When I enter a blank disk, it says it only has 2 kb free
[05:31] <MK``> I have confirmed with another computer that the disk is not defective
[06:22] <jrmy> ho wdo i restore the archive manager for xubuntu 10.04?
[06:23] <MK``> What happened to it jrmy?
[06:23] <jrmy> i thought i reinstalled it from the software center and even tried sudo -apt-get install file-roller but it doesnt show in the applications list
[06:24] <jrmy> well i uninstalled it because i wanted to use 7zip but that one didnt work right either
[06:24] <jrmy> so now i dont know what to do
[06:24] <MK``> It's not installed anymore?
[06:25] <MK``> Or is it just missing from the menu?
[06:25] <jrmy> its installed
[06:25] <jrmy> missing from the menu
[06:25] <jrmy> nor can i select it in firefox when opening a zip file from download
[06:26] <MK``> hm, give me a moment
[06:26] <jrmy> i only can/only know how to open it from terminal
[06:27] <MK``> i am on Gnome right now so I don't know how to add files to the menu, but i'd open the folder /usr/share/applications
[06:27] <MK``> it should be listed in there to copy a shortcut to it to the menu somehow
[06:28] <jrmy> well i know you can do that ith a gnome desktop
[06:29] <MK``> but I don't know why it wouldn't be listed in firefox.
[06:30] <MK``> You may want to go to Edit > Preferences > Applications and see if it is there at all, if not then maybe manually add it :(
[06:31] <jrmy> k i'll try that
[06:35] <jrmy> well i dont see a a selection for a .zip or archive or compressed file
[06:35] <jrmy> in the list of all the types of content
[06:35] <jrmy> ...this is so stupid
[06:35] <jrmy> i dont understand why it isnt working
[06:35] <MK``> o_O
[06:35] <MK``> That is strange
[06:36] <jrmy> never should of uninstalled it
[06:37] <MK``> does the xfce desktop have no menu editor?
[06:37] <jrmy> it does but idk how it works
[06:39] <jrmy> ok i have it showing in the menu
[06:40] <jrmy> ok.. now its working
[06:40] <MK``> :D
[06:40] <jrmy> i dont understand
[06:40] <jrmy> whatever..
[06:40] <MK``> Maybe the computer needed to just recognize the changes
[06:41] <jrmy> well i last installed p7zip-rar in the shell
[06:41] <jrmy> and i believe archive manager is a part of it
[06:41] <jrmy> well guess it works now.. i prefer 7zip but whatever
[06:42] <jrmy> but there doesnt seem to be a linux version
[06:42] <MK``> I think both programs can use that library heh
[06:42] <jrmy> i use windows.. btw
[06:42] <MK``> p7zip-full maybe?
[06:42] <jrmy> both are installed
[06:43] <jrmy> sudo apt-get install p7zip-rar installs both in otherwords
[06:43] <jrmy> ah i remember now
[06:43] <jrmy> or maybe not.. im kinda tired..
[06:49] <jrmy> well thanks anyways
[06:54] <MK``> yup
[16:41] <RadioactiveTouch> hey guys, planning on installing 10.10 on my father-in-law's piece of crap of a computer. will flash work out of the box?
[16:44] <RadioactiveTouch> very supportive guys..
[16:49] <charlie-tca> ooops, missed the three minute mark again
[16:51] <psycho_oreos> make sure to prepare that venus flytrapper next time ;)
[16:54] <blddk> Hey, I got an old HP ThinClient with a ~700 mhz processor and 256 mb ram, I have been running windows 2003 server and windows xp with great success on it, but how would those specs be for xubuntu?
[16:57] <charlie-tca> slow
[16:57] <charlie-tca> It would work, with one app at a time.
[16:59] <blddk> It is not going to be a racer either, my plan is only to use it to control my reprap printer
[16:59] <jrmy> any idea which channel i can ask in to get it so my ps3 can see my files?
[16:59] <jrmy> it is pertinant at least to this channel seeing im running xubuntu
[17:00] <TheSheep> jrmy: #sony-customer-support? ;)
[17:00] <jrmy> TheSheep: you being serious?
[17:00] <charlie-tca> Best I got is #ubuntu-powerpc
[17:00] <TheSheep> no, not really, sorry
[17:01] <charlie-tca> Not sure any ubuntu channel will support it, though
[17:01] <TheSheep> it's kinda in a gray area
[17:01] <jrmy> TheSheep: because last i knew sony didnt plan on its ps3 veiwing linux xomputers over a network
[17:01] <jrmy> computers*
[17:02] <jrmy> well its not illegal
[17:02] <jrmy> well as far as i know its not in there eula for the ps3.. would be strange i think to band users from connecting to linux
[17:03] <jrmy> ban*
[17:03] <jrmy> their*
[17:04] <jrmy> works fine for viewing files on windows pcs but yeah
[17:04] <jrmy> i'll also assume that none of you own a ps3
[17:04] <jrmy> lol
[17:05] <charlie-tca> even better, find someone with one that Sony did not patch, taking away the ability to install anything on it
[17:05] <jrmy> huh? i didnt mention a mod
[17:06] <jrmy> strange you'd think i was talking about a mod
[17:06] <jrmy> no i simply meant for the ps3 to see its shared folders like-wise of the ability to view windows shared folders
[17:07] <jrmy> all i want is to listen to music and watch video on it
[17:08] <psycho_oreos> something like ushare I suppose, you'll need to enable dlna
[17:08] <jrmy> i'd assume you'd need to install something on the pc
[17:08] <jrmy> ushare eh?
[17:08] <psycho_oreos> ushare only allows you to share music, and movies iirc
[17:08] <psycho_oreos> and its only ro, from ps3 iirc
[17:09] <jrmy> never heard of it
[17:09] <jrmy> guess im still kinda a networking noob lol
[17:09] <psycho_oreos> ro = read only, you can't delete, rename, modify in any way or form.. That's PS3's restriction with its native OS
[17:10] <jrmy> iirc?
[17:10] <psycho_oreos> there's a few other alternative that may work with movie/music streaming to PS3 under linux, ushare is one of them that I know of
[17:10] <psycho_oreos> iirc = if I remember correctly
[17:10] <jrmy> ah.. lol
[17:11] <jrmy> well i'll have to check ushare out then later
[17:11] <jrmy> is it useful in other ways?
[17:12] <psycho_oreos> yes if you have other capable devices which can take upnp media streaming
[17:14] <psycho_oreos> you could probably also stream images but I have not tried that out yet. I don't know what other stuff you can share over network that PS3 can see and then use. As far as streaming movies is concerned, PS3 can supports less than a handful of formats in its native configuration (that is without wma support, without divx support)
[17:15] <jrmy> yeah.. little disappointed there too
[17:16] <psycho_oreos> that's sony for you
[17:16] <jrmy> right..
[17:18] <TheSheep> jrmy: you don't even OWN the thing...
[17:18] <jrmy> what?
[17:18] <TheSheep> according to Sony, they are only letting you use it
[17:18] <jrmy> ah..
[17:18] <psycho_oreos> there is a way to make PS3 do more functionality, but such topic leads to grey/black zone which I'm sure is prohibited for discussion in this channel
[17:19] <jrmy> yeah eula's
[17:19] <jrmy> yeah probably
[17:19] <jrmy> idk if i'd ever want to go down the path of modding and such anyways..
[17:20] <jrmy> i think i'd rather sell it and buy something else
[17:21] <jrmy> which im probvably gonna do when nintendos knew console comes out
[17:21] <jrmy> new*
[17:22] <jrmy> but this is a linux channel so enough on that topic
[19:27] <LinuxBizarre> Hey all. I'm having some trouble updating my 11.04
[19:27] <LinuxBizarre> I'm getting Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/koshi/xfce-4.8/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[19:27] <LinuxBizarre> I know that doesn't exist, so its correct
[19:28] <LinuxBizarre> but is there anywhere I should be able to get updates from
[19:28] <Sysi> if you have installed updates you will not get them, but you should remove that ppa
[19:28] <Sysi> *all updates
[19:29] <LinuxBizarre> that I need to point the update manager to. (Bear in mind I'm running Ubuntu 11.04b2, but I've installed the xubuntu desktop environment using terminal)
[19:30] <LinuxBizarre> hmm, but won't removing that PPA cause issues if that directory is subsequently built?
[19:30] <LinuxBizarre> I'm totally new to this, but I'd imagine its probably pointing towards the directory that should exist for updates, not one that will never exist, right?
[19:31] <Sysi> you updated 10.10 with that ppa to natty?
[19:32] <Sysi> that ppa isn't needed/available for natty, just remove it and possibly google for ppa-purge
[19:33] <LinuxBizarre> No, I installed 11.04b2 from scratch, but the ubuntu variant
[19:33] <LinuxBizarre> then I ran apt-get to download the xubuntu desktop
[19:33] <LinuxBizarre> I couldn't install xubuntu from scratch because for some reason it had no sound.
[19:33] <Sysi> you have gotten that ppa somewhere..
[19:34] <LinuxBizarre> Well the command I used to install the xubuntu desktop was from an article that related to 10.10
[19:34] <LinuxBizarre> Perhaps I've installed the 10.10 environment on an 11.04 base?
[19:35] <Sysi> so you haven't installed anything from that repo since it doesn't work, just remove it
[19:35] <LinuxBizarre> ok.
[19:35] <LinuxBizarre> will I still recieve the proper updates if I do?
[19:36] <LinuxBizarre> as in, later, when an 11.04 build of that repo exists
[19:36] <Sysi> it will not
[19:37] <Sysi> it isn't needed, newest xfce is in the default repositories
[19:37] <LinuxBizarre> ok then.
[19:37] <LinuxBizarre> Where do I go to remove this repo then
[19:39] <Sysi> gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list propably two lines at the bottom, other option is something in /etc/apt/sources-list.d/
[19:40] <LinuxBizarre> Nevermind, I think I found it. Its update manager > settings > other software tab > remove the two ppa.launchpad entries at the bottom that match the link above
[19:40] <LinuxBizarre> I think?
[19:44] <Sysi> does the same thing
[19:45] <LinuxBizarre> Wicked. Thanks a lot.
[19:46] <LinuxBizarre> And it should still find new xfce updates if they occur, despite only referencing ubuntu repos
[19:46] <LinuxBizarre> ?
[19:48] <Sysi> yes
[19:50] <LinuxBizarre> Awesome.
[19:50] <LinuxBizarre> Thanks again, you've really helped me out.
[19:50] <Sysi> np
[19:51] <LinuxBizarre> Seeya later, I'm sure I'll be back with some silly question eventually :)
[23:00] <CeleryGeneral> Hey all!