[00:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: bigbrovar upstream issue iirc
[00:49] <ScottK> Quintasan_: Toss it into a PPA and test.  If that fixes it, we'll upload a no change rebuild.
[01:03] <ScottK> maco: How goes bindings?
[01:06] <EagleScreen> my sincerest congratulations on your work in Kubuntu 11.04, the new installer, the samba shares, the muon package manager, the notification helper, all these tools (and more) are making Kubuntu one of the best ditributions on the World
[01:36] <DarkwingDuck> bigbrovar: ping
[01:45] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck hiya
[01:51] <DarkwingDuck> Hey jjesse 
[01:51] <jjesse> how are things?
[01:52] <DarkwingDuck> Things are good. Nice to relax
[02:37] <rbelem> :-D
[08:09] <bambee> morning
[08:43] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error http://paste.kde.org/29377/
[08:49] <valorie> wow, taht makes me think there is a packaging error
[09:59]  * bambee still does not understand how the hightlightwindows plugin works... o_O
[09:59] <Riddell> sheytan: ping
[10:00] <sheytan> Riddell pong
[10:00] <sheytan> well, i don't remember why i pinged you yesterday, but i take a search in my mind :D
[10:00] <Riddell> sheytan: you pinged? :)
[10:00] <Riddell> sheytan: are you able to do a banner for release?
[10:01] <sheytan> Riddell already almost done
[10:01] <sheytan> will show ya
[10:01] <Riddell> you rock
[10:02] <Quintasan_> Riddell: ping
[10:03] <Riddell> Quintasan: you fell off the edge of the earth?
[10:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: no idea :D
[10:03] <sheytan> Riddell http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7930/basewg.png still not done, still stuff might change
[10:04] <Quintasan> Riddell: I know I somehow expired from ~kubuntu-members
[10:05] <Quintasan> ScottK: That library "issue" only fixes Authentication error as bigbrovar said but it still doesnt work unless someone rebuilds it locally
[10:06] <Riddell> sheytan: whee
[10:06] <Riddell> sheytan: I think it's too big though, the web page is quite fussy about size
[10:06] <sheytan> Riddell it suppose to replace the current blue thing
[10:07] <sheytan> that was a wall for 4.3 i guess
[10:08] <Riddell> sheytan: I don't think I can, it's part of the theme and the theme isn't easily updated
[10:08] <sheytan> damn
[10:08] <sheytan> We really need access to this stuff
[10:08] <sheytan> see how hard it is to replace a single image?
[10:09] <sheytan> well, i will do it so, that it will pass with the current one
[10:09] <Riddell> well we have access, but it's in bzr and needs the sysadmins to sync which they will be too busy to do on release day
[10:09] <Riddell> sheytan: this is the old one so I guess the same size would be what's needed http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/10.10-release-announce/kubuntu-10.10-banner.png
[10:10] <Riddell> sheytan: also it should be "Kubuntu 11.04" with Natty Narwhal only as a sub-text (code names get less important on release)
[10:10] <sheytan> yeah, but the release banner looks odd on the current blue image
[10:11] <sheytan> that's why i want it to replace
[10:11] <sheytan> but if we can't
[10:11] <sheytan> will do my best anyway ;)
[10:15] <Riddell> thanks sheytan 
[10:15] <sheytan> you welcome ;)
[10:15] <sheytan> brb
[10:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: Thanks for accepting, I need to set an reminder to renew membership next time -_-
[10:31] <steveire> shadeslayer: ping?
[10:54] <Riddell> Quintasan: launchpad should do that for you
[10:55] <Quintasan> Riddell: it emailed it but I somehow managed to get it sorted to Spam this time
[10:56] <Riddell> launchpad spamming?  surely not!
[11:02] <Quintasan> Riddell: build results etc.
[11:02] <Quintasan> like, over 200 everyday :D
[11:08] <Quintasan> FFS WHY YOU DON'T WORK GOOGLEDATA?
[11:13] <mfraz74> Kubuntu 11.04 seems to be pretty much ready now :)
[11:14] <Riddell> mfraz74: great :)
[11:14] <mfraz74> I have noticed that special dates has been disabled in Kontact
[11:17] <mfraz74> can this be re-enabled?
[11:26] <Riddell> I don't even know what special dates is
[11:28] <mfraz74> in Kontact there used to be a plug in called "special dates"
[11:29] <mfraz74> According to this page http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/29611 it has been disabled in 4.4.10 due to the amount of bugs reported
[11:29] <mfraz74> but it can be re-enabled if necessary at build
[11:33] <mfraz74> is anyone here using gimp?
[11:35] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425103448-7mktpyni84ynf3be * src/python/sip/UbuntuSSOClientGUI.sip cleanup sip a bit
[11:36] <c2tarun> mfraz74: I am using gimp.
[11:36] <mfraz74> c2tarun: is it loading ok in 11.04?
[11:36] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425103608-z532fahoyoaddka0 * src/ (4 files) migrate to new sinals
[11:36] <c2tarun> mfraz74: nope
[11:37] <c2tarun> mfraz74: I have to start it from terminal with root privileges.
[11:37] <yofel> gimp opens fine for me
[11:37] <yofel> then again, this isn't exactly stock 11.04 so not much of a reference
[11:37] <mfraz74> what happens if you start it from terminal normally?
[11:38] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425103634-fv15mrbwsncjwaui * src/python/gui.py wrap sip client in gui.py, composite a new client that connects handlers to the sip client's signals and translates the returned QStrings to unicode objects *and* invokes a callback set by the credentials thingy
[11:38] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425103759-k6qglhpo793opq8c * src/python/gui.py coopyright++
[11:38] <c2tarun> mfraz74: some kind of segmentation fault http://paste.kde.org/29863/
[11:39] <yofel> rung gimp in gdb and try to get a backtrace
[11:39] <yofel> and install the dbg package first
[11:39] <c2tarun> mfraz74: I am using Version: 2.6.11-1ubuntu6
[11:39] <c2tarun> yofel: I am on it.
[11:48] <mfraz74> trying to upgrade my netbook, i'm getting "bad signature from "ubuntu archive automatic signing key"
[11:50] <c2tarun> yofel: here is the backtrace can you please take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/598669/
[11:51] <c2tarun> yofel: I think there are some ?? 
[11:52] <c2tarun> yofel: for first ?? I am trying to install libgtk-x11-gdb but I am not getting anything.
[11:52] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425105226-10gd8gyvoyhuz094 * src/UbuntuSSOClientGUI.cpp only init once
[11:53] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425105235-qvs6grbd0m2ce98n * src/python/gui.py reduce likelyhood of inter-thread blocking by queing the signals from the cpp part (qapp bound) and the pyth0rn back caller (glib/pyth0rn bound)
[11:57] <Riddell> ooh new images up for testing
[12:02] <mfraz74> fixed it, squid-deb-proxy again
[12:03] <yofel> c2tarun: that's from libgtk2.0-0-dbg
[12:09] <c2tarun> yofel: how can I find other dbg packages? like for example libgobject-2.0.so.0
[12:12] <yofel> c2tarun: apt-file find  libgobject-2.0.so.0
[12:12] <yofel> run apt-file update if it doesn't find anything
[12:22] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425112204-27g3o371wdsuz9kv * src/UbuntuSSOClientGUI.h cleanup++
[12:22] <c2tarun> yofel: what is this CIA* bot posting?
[12:23] <yofel> commits from harald to the ubuntu-sso-client-kde branch? http://cia.vc/ if you don't know what CIA is
[12:24] <c2tarun> yofel: ok on running apt-file fine for libgobject I am getting one *-dbg and one *-refdbg. what is refdbg?
[12:24] <yofel> no idea, you need the -dbg one
[12:34] <apachelogger> mehz
[12:35] <apachelogger> ksecretservice doesnt implement aliases yet :/
[12:38] <c2tarun> yofel: I think this backtrace is good enough http://paste.ubuntu.com/598687/ can you please look
[12:38] <yofel> apachelogger: kde 4.7 finally has ksecretservice?
[12:42] <yofel> c2tarun: what gtk theme are you using?
[12:42] <c2tarun> yofel: gtk theme?
[12:42] <yofel> yes
[12:42] <c2tarun> yofel: I dont know. How to check that?
[12:43] <yofel> system settings -> application appearance -> gtk+ appearance -> widget style
[12:43] <apachelogger> yofel: don't think s
[12:43] <apachelogger> o
[12:43] <yofel> :S
[12:43] <c2tarun> yofel: oxygen-gtk
[12:43] <apachelogger> seeing as the spec is not evne stable yet
[12:44] <yofel> apachelogger: true, thanks to KDE not implementing the current dbus interface I still need gnome-keyring for U1 :/
[12:45] <yofel> c2tarun: hm... that works for me, so probably not the reason...
[12:45] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425114443-5mtg3zyawldstckq * src/ (RegisterWidget.cpp RegisterWidget.h) don't generate captcha in ctor but once setVisible(true) was called without a captcha present, as to prevent pointless work
[12:45] <c2tarun> yofel: yup. well if someone wants to figure out the problem, can you please tell me how will he start with the backtrace?
[12:45] <apachelogger> yofel: the alias plunder only got added recently IIRC
[12:46] <apachelogger> which is probably why ksecretservice does not yet have it
[12:47] <yofel> c2tarun: not sure, what you could do is: 'sudo service apport start force_start=1', crash it again, file the crash bug
[12:49] <CIA-48> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110425114910-z0ppjep4f9u81aip * src/RegisterWidget.cpp copyright++
[12:52] <c2tarun> yofel: I did and apport also sent some info to LP but I couldn't see my bug.
[12:53] <yofel> c2tarun: you entered the details on launchpad and actually filed the bug?
[12:53] <yofel> apport isn't fully automatic
[12:53] <c2tarun> yofel: apport opened a LP page for me on which it is written that you are already logged in, and then nothing
[12:54] <yofel> that's not what it's supposed to open, I blame either launchpad or your web browser
[12:55] <c2tarun> yofel: I am using firefox 4.0 :(
[12:55] <yofel> never happend to me with ffx, you should see a window telling you to wait until the report is processed, after that you can enter your details
[12:56] <c2tarun> yofel: ok, how can I restart apport?
[12:57] <yofel> as in? It's a system service, but usual start only works if it's enabled in /etc/default/apport. To start it once use the command I gave you above
[12:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: IIRC? Any link to source? This is driving me mad, somehow it works after a local rebuild but not when built on Launchpad
[12:58] <c2tarun> yofel: but now on starting gimp and crashing it I am not able to see apport tray icon. it may be busy with previous crash.
[12:58] <yofel> c2tarun: do you have a gimp crash in /var/crash ?
[12:59] <c2tarun> yofel: yup
[12:59] <yofel> pass the path and filename as argument to ubuntu-bug and it'll file that
[13:00] <apachelogger> yofel: you could try ubuntu sso kde with u1 :P
[13:01] <yofel> maybe later
[13:07] <c2tarun> yofel: done :)
[13:59] <mfraz74> i seem to be having problems with wireless on this netbook now I've upgraded to 11.04 - it keeps stopping
[14:00] <mfraz74> the connection speed stays at 54MB/s, but the traffic suddenly drops to nothing
[14:02] <ScottK> mfraz74: Very unlikely to be something Kubuntu specific, probably kernel related.  I'd ask in #ubuntu+1.
[15:07] <apachelogger> u1 still doesnt have a mailing list :D
[15:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: sadly this doesn't surprise me
[15:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: couldn't you rotate to u1 and help them get their stuff in order? ;)
[15:46]  * apachelogger will have to discuss internals of ubuntu single sign on with multiple UIs at UDS
[15:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: We don't want him gone that long.
[15:56] <apachelogger> true
[15:56] <ScottK> More RC images needing testing.
[15:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: Can you get the direct GL calls out of phonon-backend-gstreamer so we can build it on armel?
[15:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: just build it without gl on armel :P
[15:59] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Would be nice if the packager had done that.
[16:00]  * apachelogger looks
[16:00] <apachelogger> ScottK: yeah, no dice getting rid of those calls
[16:01] <apachelogger> it is doing heavy texture transformation that probably exceeds QGL's scope
[16:01] <apachelogger> however the feature is a) not documented b) not supported c) completely ugly
[16:01] <apachelogger> so it can definitely go away
[16:01] <ScottK> Consider it a feature request for the next release.
[16:01] <apachelogger> will be replaced by qmlvideo if I get the gsoc project nayway :)
[16:11] <shadeslayer> \o
[16:20] <maco> ScottK: it used up all free space on my laptop's / (1.2gb) attempting to build, so then it error'd out.  so then i tried it on my server which had 4.5 gb free. it went for 6 hours or so before the log just says "Killed" ... all i can guess is OOM 
[16:21] <ScottK> maco: PPA.
[16:21] <maco> yeah that'll be the next thing to try
[16:31] <apachelogger> maco, ScottK: building what?
[16:32] <maco> apachelogger: kdebindings with a patch for pykdeuic
[16:33] <apachelogger> oh yeah, kdebindings is big
[17:57] <shadeslayer> so i'll be able to attend remotely this time \o.
[17:57] <shadeslayer> \o.
[17:57] <shadeslayer> \o/
[17:57] <shadeslayer> flipping keyboard
[17:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i see you're the pink knight ... whatever happened to the blue knight
[17:58] <apachelogger> he got bashed by the knights who say ni!
[17:58] <shadeslayer> :(
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ~np
[18:02] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ is listening to "Better Days" by Goo Goo Dolls [http://open.spotify.com/track/2CWYATyxjd8tOsXdyuRWUv] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more
[18:19] <maco> Riddell: http://notalwaysright.com/she-must-be-highlands/11265  <-- you're the only reason i can even read half of this
[18:35] <Riddell> maco: still spending your time on silly websites when you should be testing ISOs I see :)
[18:38] <ximion> hi Artemis_Fowl!
[18:38] <ximion> you're the author of the GRUB2 KCM, right?
[18:39] <achiang> hello Riddell 
[18:39] <Artemis_Fowl> hey ximion
[18:39] <Artemis_Fowl> yes I am
[18:39] <ximion> Artemis_Fowl: I read your blogpost at http://ksmanis.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/qapt-sexiness/ and later your question about using PackageKit on IRC, but when I wanted to reply, you were gone already :P
[18:40] <ximion> someone suggested you should use PKs DBus API: Please don't do that ;-)
[18:40] <Artemis_Fowl> what do you suggest?
[18:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: achiang is trying to build phonon-backend-gstreamer without GL support on ARM, is there any hope?
[18:41] <ximion> PackageKit has very nice Qt4 bindings
[18:41] <ximion> !info libpackagekit-qt14
[18:41] <ximion> !info libpackagekit-qt14 natty
[18:41] <achiang> i'm trying to build phonon-backend-gstreamer without opengl support, and i've got this patch going so far -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/598828/
[18:41] <achiang> apachelogger: ^^
[18:42] <Artemis_Fowl> ximion: I was planning to first use Qt4 PK libs (if available), then fall back to libqapt (if available) and if neither exists poke the DBus
[18:42] <Artemis_Fowl> that requires some work but would cover most cases
[18:42] <ximion> Artemis_Fowl: The case is that the Qt bindings for PK contain some nice stuff like parts of our Debconf support for PK and some other helpers which can't be used by referencing the "bare" DBus API
[18:43] <ximion> I would stop if libQApt is not available
[18:43] <ximion> or even better: Provide a compilerswitch so maintainers can enable/disable QApt or PK if they want to
[18:43] <ximion> so they can compile the KCM with PK enabled or QApt enabled (or none of them)
[18:44] <Artemis_Fowl> ximion: I already provide these options
[18:44] <ximion> Artemis_Fowl: how do you detect unused kernels?
[18:44] <Artemis_Fowl> I detect all kernels not just unused
[18:45] <ximion> ah.. oh...
[18:45] <Artemis_Fowl> I detect them by querying the package backend for every menuentry that contains the linux command
[18:45] <Artemis_Fowl> if a package can be found then this entry can be removed
[18:45] <ximion> then you should exclude the kernel version 'uname -r' provides
[18:45] <Artemis_Fowl> if not then this means it's chainloaded or other stuff which we can't handle
[18:46] <ximion> I'm just asking cause APT has a feature to find old kernels which PK cannot access, as this cleanup stuff is backend-specific
[18:47] <Artemis_Fowl> find old kernels?
[18:47] <ximion> you might want to join #PackageKit if you've questions about PK
[18:48] <Artemis_Fowl> ximion: thanks I already figured out how to implement it, it's a couple of hours work now :)
[18:49] <ximion> It's pretty easy with PK-Qt ^^
[18:50] <Artemis_Fowl> ximion: Indeed..
[18:51] <Artemis_Fowl> you were talking about an apt feature?
[18:53] <ximion> if packages get removed from the repo, they can be removed by apt-get autoremove, except kernels. Kernels are left cause removing them might break the system or might be unwanted by the user. But the kernel packages can be detected as "old", cause they're only local now and not in the archives.
[18:53] <ximion> I guess this is how Ubuntu's computer janitor can detect and remove old kernels
[18:53] <ximion> but I'm not 100% sure
[18:54] <ximion> Artemis_Fowl: ^
[18:54] <ximion> I would leave the uname -r Kernel (kernel which is used at time) and the most recent kernel and offer only the others in the "to be removed" list
[18:54] <ximion> (guess that's sane...)
[18:58] <Artemis_Fowl> that applies only to upgraded systems right?
[18:58] <Artemis_Fowl> (the local kernel thing)
[19:02] <apachelogger> achiang: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=phonon-gstreamer.git&a=commit&h=14a6110c17fd93843214e600c6ddac93807798f7
[19:02] <achiang> apachelogger: ooh, that is exactly what i want (and exactly why i need it)
[19:02] <achiang> thank you
[19:03] <apachelogger> yw
[19:12] <ximion> Artemis_Fowl: yes
[19:13] <Artemis_Fowl> ximion: but still since the package remains we can discover it: it still owns the kernel file
[19:15] <Artemis_Fowl> it is true that the currently used kernel should somehow be distinguished by the other kernels
[19:16] <Artemis_Fowl> but I'm not so sure about completely hiding this and the latest kernel
[19:16] <Artemis_Fowl> the user should choose on his own
[19:17] <Artemis_Fowl> perhaps it would make sense in a quick removal tool - no dialogs etc, just remove all kernels except for the 2/3 latest (plus the current if not in this list)
[19:18] <Riddell> achiang: it's not looking too hopeful for a quick fix, there's some amount of fiddling needed to remove the gl requirement
[19:18] <Riddell> I don't understand why this wasn't caught by the rebuilds last month
[19:19] <achiang> Riddell: hm, i don't think i understand. that patch above is insufficient?
[19:20] <Riddell> achiang: yes it's insufficient, it needs some code changes too, hang on I just got it to compile
[19:21] <achiang> Riddell: ah, i see. thank you
[19:30] <Riddell> achiang: this removes it entirely http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/phonon-backend-gstreamer_4.7.0really4.5.0-0ubuntu3.debdiff
[19:30] <Riddell> the question is if it's sane to use the result
[19:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: ^^
[19:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/31219/
[19:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=phonon-gstreamer.git&a=commit&h=14a6110c17fd93843214e600c6ddac93807798f7
[19:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: nokia implemented that stuff, so I suppose they have one or two use cases on the desktop
[19:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: even better
[19:39] <achiang> Riddell: hm, that's the same patch, pointed out twice...
[19:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: syn
[19:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: synack
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ack
[19:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the time is naeer
[19:45] <shadeslayer> *near
[19:45] <apachelogger> no, release is not until tomorrow
[19:45] <apachelogger> ah
[19:45] <apachelogger> gsoc
[19:45] <apachelogger> lol
[19:45] <shadeslayer> ...
[19:55] <bambee> Artemis_Fowl: wow kcm grub2 rocks, great job! however I don't see it into systemsettings
[19:56] <bambee> it's normal ?
[19:56] <Artemis_Fowl> kbuildsycoca4
[19:56] <Artemis_Fowl> and then it should appear
[19:56] <Artemis_Fowl> just installed?
[19:56] <bambee> yes
[19:56] <Artemis_Fowl> yes, run kbuildsycoca4
[19:56] <bambee> and I already tried kbuildsyscoca4
[19:56]  * bambee tries again
[19:57] <Artemis_Fowl> 'kcmshell4 kcm_grub2' or reboot then
[19:58] <bambee> kcmshell4 works :)
[19:59] <Artemis_Fowl> bambee: where did you look for it in systemsettings? It's under Startup and Shutdown > GRUB2 Bootloader
[20:00] <bambee> Artemis_Fowl: I found it :D
[20:00] <Artemis_Fowl> nice
[20:00] <bambee> I was looking under "administration"  o_O
[20:00] <Artemis_Fowl> out of curiosity how did you install it? natty package/compile or custom package?
[20:01] <bambee> Artemis_Fowl: it's in universe :)
[20:01] <bambee> so natty package
[20:02] <Artemis_Fowl> ah ok. it's not up-to-date though. it's v0.3.0 while there is 0.3.6 and 0.4.0 is soon to be out
[20:05] <bambee> 0.4.x will be packaged for oneiric, it's too late now. (however, I am not the best one to talk about that)
[20:05] <Artemis_Fowl> aw don't packages get updated?
[20:06] <Artemis_Fowl> too bad :/ removing old entries was mainly meant for Kubuntu users
[20:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: syn
[20:07] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ?
[20:07]  * apachelogger was trying to establish a 3-way handshake :P
[20:07] <Nightrose> Oo
[20:07] <Nightrose> ack
[20:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: when is season of KDE?
[20:08] <Nightrose> in a few minus
[20:08] <Nightrose> *minutes
[20:08] <Nightrose> why?
[20:08] <apachelogger> ah, so it is at the same time?
[20:08] <Nightrose> well i'll publish the announcement in a few mins
[20:08] <apachelogger> ...as gsoc
[20:08] <Nightrose> and then it starts
[20:08] <Nightrose> you should blog your khelpcenter thingy and find someone
[20:08] <apachelogger> ah
[20:08] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you mean me as mentor?
[20:08] <Nightrose> as student
[20:09] <Nightrose> mentor can be kevin
[20:09] <apachelogger> then I am confused :P
[20:09] <Nightrose> advertise it as a great SoK project
[20:09] <bambee> Artemis_Fowl: we can also package it for oneiric and backport it for natty into the ppa :)
[20:09] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I am doing gsoc for phonon, so I was wondering when SOK is so that I do not end up doing everything at once...
[20:09] <Nightrose> it's at the same time
[20:09] <Nightrose> you find another student for kevin to mentor :D
[20:10] <Artemis_Fowl> bambee: cool
[20:10] <bambee> Artemis_Fowl: don't worry ;)
[20:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: but I want the tshirt for crying out loud :P
[20:11] <Nightrose> apachelogger: you will not get one!!!
[20:11] <Nightrose> :P
[20:11] <apachelogger> then I won't blog the proposal and let someone else take it :P
[20:12] <Nightrose> -.-
[20:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: congrats
[20:12] <shadeslayer> and {{{HUGS}}}
[20:12]  * apachelogger hugg0rs the shadeslayer
[20:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: which proposal did get accepted?
[20:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: PIM
[20:13] <apachelogger> Nightrose: well, TBCH, I do not feel very uncomfortable seeing my brain child get implemented by someone else :)
[20:13] <apachelogger> though for the sake of getting it done I'll blog about it
[20:13] <Nightrose> apachelogger: *sniff*
[20:13] <Nightrose> ahhh
[20:14] <apachelogger> after I released the phonon vlcz
[20:14] <Nightrose> *hugs*
[20:14]  * apachelogger hugs everyonz and smooches the Nightrose before he leaves to digg through the load of mail he got out of gsoc - aka google spamfest
[20:14] <Nightrose> hehe
[20:15] <shadeslayer> "Welcome to the kde-soc mailing list"
[20:15] <shadeslayer> i feel important all of a sudden
[20:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you always were important
[20:19] <apachelogger> Nightrose: out of interest, how many slots did KDE get this year?
[20:19] <Nightrose> apachelogger: 51
[20:22] <shadeslayer> sweet
[20:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: last year it also was around 50, wasn't it?
[20:25] <Nightrose> apachelogger: 50
[20:26] <apachelogger> ah, sweet :)
[20:29] <bambee> arrff... 51 is a good number, mostly with "pastis" written next to it :P
[20:29]  * bambee => [ ]
[22:08] <ScottK> Where's the KDE project list?
[22:08] <ScottK> (for GSoC)
[22:11] <Riddell> I don't know if it's been published yet
[22:12] <ScottK> OK.  I saw someone congratulating apachelogger in the scrollback and figured it was.  The Debian list is published.
[22:13] <Riddell> I've been sent an e-mail so I guess those who are in know about it now
[22:14] <PauseBazinga> oi, I'm curious about one behavior of Amarok: The playlist doesn't auto-advance to the next track when the current is done playing.  Is this normal behavior or a bug?
[22:15] <apachelogger> PauseBazinga: buggy
[22:15] <apachelogger> though there is an option for that
[22:15] <apachelogger> so you might just have accidently ticked that :P
[22:15] <apachelogger> or unticked actually
[22:17] <PauseBazinga> apachelogger: rog, thx.  I'll look for the option, but it happened the first time I used the application.  One other question: I accidentally installed ubuntu-restricted-extras instead of the kubuntu package, then I installed the correct one.  will this cause a conflict?
[22:18] <apachelogger> no
[22:18] <apachelogger> you'll just have some packages you might not need
[22:18]  * apachelogger pokes valorie
[22:20] <PauseBazinga> cool, thanks
[22:20] <valorie> ouch
[22:21] <valorie> apachelogger: I did finally get everything built
[22:21] <valorie> geez, last week was stressful
[22:21] <apachelogger> valorie: sunshine highway!
[22:21] <valorie> sunshine highway?
[22:21] <apachelogger> murphys!!
[22:21] <apachelogger> valorie: what did you get built? phonon vlc?
[22:22] <valorie> phonon, phonon-vlc, and phonon-gst
[22:22] <apachelogger> oh cool
[22:22] <apachelogger> valorie: if you have time some testing on phonon vlc would be swell
[22:22] <apachelogger> I was going to release tomorrow as I did not get any complents thus far
[22:22] <valorie> I will do so as soon as I finish making this multibootUSB
[22:23]  * apachelogger blinks
[22:23] <apachelogger> me kontact refuses to start, what be I doing
[22:23] <apachelogger> zomg
[22:24] <apachelogger> killall ftw =D
[22:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I suppose you are not attending UDS?
[22:25] <Nightrose> nope
[22:25] <apachelogger> :/
[22:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I did not get a DS talk :(
[22:26] <apachelogger> apparently I didn't submit anything
[22:26]  * apachelogger blames shadeslayer
[22:27] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot172.png <-- could someone please do something about this?
[22:33] <bambee> 25735 ? wow... my best score was 16500 o_O
[22:38] <PauseBazinga> anyone else here use Pithos, the non-flash Pandora client?
[22:41] <Riddell> achiang: I uploaded the fixed phonon-backend-gstreamer to natty-proposed
[22:41] <Riddell> see bug 707794
[22:41] <achiang> Riddell: great, thanks.
[22:42] <Riddell> Tm_Tr: are you able to test the powerpc images?
[23:41] <ScottK> Is the live CD good enough these days we could consider to drop the alternate?
[23:41] <ScottK> People who really need the alternate could install from some other alternate image and then install kubuntu-desktop.
[23:43] <maco> i guess the use-case would be wanting LVM and also having no network connection to use the mini
[23:45] <ScottK> Right, so install -server with lvm and then get your network running to install kubuntu-desktop.
[23:45] <ScottK> "normal" users don't really care about LVM.
[23:45] <maco> does server use the same kernel yet?
[23:45] <ScottK> And Riddell does most of the Kubuntu ISO testing, so we need to figure something out.
[23:45] <ScottK> It does on i386.
[23:46] <ScottK> Switching kernels isn't that hard and if you don't, it's not like it makes a huge difference.
[23:46] <maco> ok. i remember using the server iso on a laptop and getting kernel panic on boot til i chrooted in and installed a normal kernel, so it makes me wary now :)
[23:47] <maco> but this was when server and i386 had different kernels, so if thats changed, then i guess its ok
[23:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: iso testing is boring and does not give anything to people
[23:48] <ScottK> Yep, so with no Riddell this cycle we will need to economize.
[23:49] <apachelogger> or make testing more attractive :P
[23:49]  * apachelogger is actually wondering why no one from jono's team of awesome ever tried doing something about it
[23:49] <ScottK> "Test this ISO or we'll infect your with apachelogger staring in Disney princess pron!"
[23:50] <apachelogger> aight
[23:50] <apachelogger> though
[23:50] <apachelogger> positive motivation ought to work better :P
[23:52] <maco> ...
[23:52] <maco> not the sort of joke id ever have expected from scott
[23:56] <apachelogger> maco: clearly you underestimated him