[01:43] <linh> this is kristian again
[01:44] <linh> I changed it so that its -vn-vn-dk-dk, but it's still Vietnamese with a bit of English
[01:44] <linh> or more like 50/50, actually
[02:27] <kaatta> hey guys, new to lubuntu and im having a little issue i was hoping to get some help with
[02:29] <kaatta> i found a dock that appears to work (cairo dock) but it has a black box around it. it says i need a composite manager. im not really sure where to go from here. does lubuntu have one? what do i need to do with it?
[02:34] <kaatta> does lubuntu hve a composite manager?
[03:16] <kaattaa> hello, if anyone is here im looking for help with a composite manager for lubuntu
[03:28] <phillw> hiyas kaattaa  a lot of the guys work on european time, you are welcome to ask on the mailing list.
[03:29] <phillw> ahh... hyperair... can you help with (03:16:49) kaattaa: hello, if anyone is here im looking for help with a composite manager for lubuntu
[03:29] <hyperair> phillw: tell him to just run xcompmgr
[03:30] <phillw> kaattaa: did you understand that?
[03:34] <kaattaa> k ty, will try that
[03:59] <kaattaa> hyperair, i installed xcompmgr and ran it, however im still showing hte black box around my dock
[04:03] <hyperair> kaattaa: maybe you need to restart the dock
[04:03] <hyperair> what dock are you using?
[04:04] <kaattaa> was trying to use cairo-dock
[04:04] <kaattaa> been loooking for hours for something compatible with lubuntu
[04:04] <hyperair> restart the dock and see if that works?
[04:04] <hyperair> i personally used to use docky
[04:04] <hyperair> but then again i've been using compiz all this while
[04:05] <hyperair> perhaps xcompmgr doesn't support openbox?
[04:05] <kaattaa> i ram compiz and all the sudden i had no panels, and  strange terminal box opened that i couldnt interact with
[04:05] <kaattaa> had to kill the power and restart
[04:05] <hyperair> O_o
[04:05] <hyperair> sounds like X itself died.
[04:06] <kaattaa> no clue
[04:06] <kaattaa> really enjoying lubuntu because it feels like ubuntu but responds very quickly on my old netbook
[04:07] <hyperair> hmm i see
[04:07] <kaattaa> but some issues i run into and it just gives headaches
[04:07] <kaattaa> installed a bunch of stuff that i used in ubuntu and they are not added to the shortcut menu which is irksome
[04:07] <hyperair> heh
[04:07] <kaattaa> have to run them manually
[04:07] <hyperair> what stuff?
[04:07] <kaattaa> empathy, gwibber, evolution
[04:08] <LAcan> u cant run compiz and openbox or lxde together
[04:08] <kaattaa> plus in ubuntu i had icons on the taskbar that notify me of new email & such, nothing similar w/ lubuntu
[04:09] <hyperair> LAcan: i reckon you can run compiz with lxde, but not compiz with openbox
[04:09] <hyperair> hmm indicators eh
[04:09] <LAcan> same diff :)
[04:09] <hyperair> LAcan: no it's not.
[04:09] <kaattaa> hyperair, im pretty new here, im not entirely sure of what ur saying there
[04:10] <LAcan> isnt lxde reliant on open box?
[04:10] <hyperair> LAcan: that's the same as saying that "you can't run metacity with compiz" is the same as "you can't run gnome with compiz"
[04:10] <kaattaa> i can wiggle my way around windows with the best of them, but ive never gotten that in depth w/ linux
[04:10] <hyperair> kaattaa: well it probably takes time
[04:10] <LAcan> kaattaa, im in the same boat as you, but use lubuntu on old hardware and ubuntu on new
[04:10] <hyperair> kaattaa: but personally, i'm not an lxde user. ;-)
[04:11] <hyperair> kaattaa: i'm happily using gnome with unity at the moment
[04:12] <kaattaa> i downloaded the new beta, and tried to boot it on my primary machine and it refused to boot
[04:12] <LAcan> ya, i use 10.10
[04:12] <LAcan> 11.04 they can keep for a few months before i upgrade
[04:12] <hyperair> kaattaa: what is your primary machine?
[04:12] <kaattaa> this machine, my roomy gave me for free, its an old netbook, 512mb ram, 8gb SSD, etc... runs ubuntu desktop but very sluggishly
[04:13] <hyperair> hm
[04:13] <hyperair> you could probably do with an upgrade of ram
[04:13] <hyperair> or use a more lightweight browser, for example
[04:13] <hyperair> firefox is especially heavyeweight
[04:13] <kaattaa> prolly, but it was free, and its really just a back-pocket PC for me to use on the go
[04:13] <kaattaa> i have a primary machine, but it is running win7 x64 ultimate
[04:13] <kaattaa> and it works flawlessly
[04:14] <hyperair> hm
[04:14] <kaattaa> but i wanted this small portable machine to dink with on the go
[04:14] <kaattaa> and to use for python which i am studying
[04:14] <hyperair> well if you ran ubuntu on the machine you ran windows, it would probably run really fast
[04:14] <LAcan> lubuntu makes for a great repair partition on any PC...
[04:15] <LAcan> hyperair, no, even Vista outperforms ubuntu
[04:15] <LAcan> seriously.
[04:15] <hyperair> LAcan: that's not true.
[04:15] <LAcan> im using em right now
[04:15] <LAcan> Vista x64
[04:15] <LAcan> and ubuntu 10.10
[04:15] <kaattaa> yea but no need to have another OS on my priimary machine, win7 works flawlessly for me. but this old machine needed an OS
[04:15] <hyperair> LAcan: perhaps there's something weird with your ubuntu installation.
[04:15] <kaattaa> wish i could run 10.10 but its just too sluggish
[04:15] <hyperair> because no windows have ever outperformed ubunut on my machine.
[04:15] <LAcan> vista crashes less and is peppier BUT im on nvidia, which may be the trouble.
[04:15] <kaattaa> really liking lubuntu, but im haviing a hell of a time really getting it comfy
[04:16] <hyperair> LAcan: right, so perhaps you're seeing issues with sluggish desktop effects. have you tried installing the binary driver?
[04:16] <LAcan> hyperair, binary driver for...?
[04:16] <hyperair> LAcan: nvidia.
[04:16] <hyperair> LAcan: the nonfree driver.
[04:16] <LAcan> yes, thats what im using.
[04:16]  * hyperair shrugs then
[04:17] <hyperair> well, i'd stay and help, but i have work to do.
[04:17] <LAcan> keep in mind, vista is using 3GBS of memory at all times to ubuntus <100megs
[04:17] <LAcan> does ubuntu have a prefetcher?
[04:17] <kaattaa> xubuntu worked well untill i opened the software manager
[04:17] <kaattaa> and it froze every time
[04:18] <kaattaa> package manager hangs on me in lubuntu as wel
[04:18] <kaattaa> no clue why
[04:18] <LAcan> weird, works for me
[04:18] <LAcan> how solid is your net connecting?
[04:19] <jmarsden> kaattaa: You could try using apt-get in Terminal, and see if it generates any errors or warnings that would help you determine what the issue with your package database is.
[05:43] <UBuxuBU> good morning
[06:03] <hyperair> LAcan: linux does not have a prefetcher. however, it does have disk cache, which uses almost all of your unused memory at any point of time.
=== MrChrisDruif is now known as MrChrisDruif|AFK
[14:20] <linuxman410> does anyone know if lubuntu 11.04 is going to use unity
[14:20] <Mark76> No
[14:20] <Mark76> I can say that without even being one of the developers
[14:20] <linuxman410> ok thanks
[14:22] <linuxman410> see i have a shuttle computer with 845ge video and ubuntu 11.04 drop support for it 10.04 has the drive and 10.10 does not have driver either
[14:23] <linuxman410> driver
[14:24] <linuxman410> lubuntu is staying with lxde'
[14:24] <phillw> linuxman410: the lubuntu team took a brave step for a small team, we will support lubuntu 10.04 for 5 years.
[14:25] <phillw> and it will recieve updates.
[14:25] <linuxman410> well i am a member of the ubuntu team and there lts is 3 years only
[14:26] <martijn1985> Hi, is anyone present who can help me get Lubuntu to recognize that my screen is 1024x768 instead of 800x600? I have been trying to get it to work using xrendr, but it isn't working just yet.
[14:27] <phillw> linuxman410: as the dropping of i586 chipset affects directly older computers, we will be supporting 10.04 until the requirement for it has passed (which could be a while!).
[14:28] <linuxman410> phillw my computer is a pentium 4 2.3
[14:30] <linuxman410> it is one of those little shttle computers with builtin graphics card which happens to be 845ge video builtin
[14:30] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> Lubuntu for 5 years? =-O
[14:31] <phillw> linuxman410: there is an old rule in computing - if it isn't broken - don't try fixing it :) with how lubuntu 10.04 is set up, whilst a little more original work is required after the install to get the updates, it is certainly not hard and needs doing the once. When the team catch breath, there *may* be a new release of 10.04, but with the current set up - it should be okay.
[14:34] <linuxman410> phillw lubuntu 10.10 does not have the driver either so i do not know why all the distros dropped it when they realeased new version now if i installed 10.10 i have one resolution and cannot change it
[14:35] <linuxman410> so will have to stay with 10.04
[14:35] <linuxman410> i upgraded to 10.10 and it still removed it doing a upgrade
[14:37] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> phillw: Lubuntu 10.04 has the same repos as Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:38] <linuxman410> be back later have to go to work
[14:39] <phillw> linuxman410: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#10.04 We are committed to supporting 10.04.
[14:39] <phillw> MrChrisDruif|AFK: lubuntu 10.04 uses a couple of PPA's. it is one of the things being changed as we go for full adoption.
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> ....
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> I wanted to use Lubuntu 10.04 as rescue cd...
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> And I need PhotoRec which is in the repos of Ubuntu <_<"
[14:45] <Mark76> How do I stop my middle mouse button from pasting everything three times?
[14:46] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> phillw: Thanks, but I'll download SystemRescueCD instead (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page)
[14:46] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> Mark76: I think you need to edit your  ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml but I'm not sure
[14:47] <MrChrisDruif|AFK> There are some mousebinds in there
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[15:26] <MrChrisDruif> Hai leszek
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[15:36] <leszek> oo operator please xD we have a spam bot
[15:42] <Mark76> You got it too, eh?
[18:35] <vesa_> hello all
[18:35] <bioterror> moro moi
[18:35] <vesa_> i have lubuntu and i dont get any swap even i have right partition and swapon
[18:35] <vesa_> i did it with gparted
[18:36] <vesa_> cat /proc/meminfo|grep Swap.
[18:36] <bioterror> cat /etc/fstab
[18:36] <vesa_> 0 kB
[18:36] <vesa_> no moi
[18:37] <bioterror> titia@konna:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[18:37] <bioterror> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[18:37] <bioterror> UUID=e3020c54-6a5f-4dbd-b9b8-93bbe933ef69 none            swap    sw              0       0
[18:38] <bioterror> you have something like that=
[18:38] <vesa_> look your private message
[18:42] <martijn1985> does anyone know of a way to let Lubuntu skip the login screen? I tried via Preferences > Users and Groups but the checkbox for no password remains grey(unclickable)
[18:47] <bioterror> martijn1985, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#How to enable automatic logon in LXDM
[18:47] <bioterror> saddddkkkkaaaaaaa
[18:47] <bioterror> %20 %20 %20 %20 :D
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> What?
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> I see
[18:48] <martijn1985> bioterror thanks, I'll try
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#How%20to%20enable%20automatic%20logon%20in%20LXDM
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[18:48] <bioterror> opera cant handle that!
[18:48] <bioterror> neither does chromium
[18:49] <bioterror> FireFox does
[18:49] <bioterror> but I'm not using it
[18:49] <MrChrisDruif> That link?
[18:49] <bioterror> yeah, adding %20 as spaces
[18:51] <martijn1985> luckily firefox still gets ctrl-F ;-)
[18:52] <martijn1985> I figured it out btw, thanks :-)
[18:52] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: With me it does?
[18:52] <bioterror> mmmm
[18:52] <bioterror> with you everything <3
[18:52] <MrChrisDruif> Using Chromium in Lubuntu
[19:01] <leszek> re
[21:15]  * LAcan ok in ubuntu
[21:28] <bioterror> !answer
[21:28] <Unit193> !42 | bioterror
[21:28] <ubot5> bioterror: The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.
[21:28] <bioterror> :D
[21:41] <Jimtrim> Hi. Does anybody know of a way to get Guake to come in from the side, not from the top?
[23:00] <slackmeister> evening
[23:19] <bonny> how do i upgrade the version of lubuntu
[23:19] <bonny> i need to know quickly please :)\
[23:20] <slackmeister> bonny, you have to add the upgrade repository i think
[23:21] <bonny> how
[23:21] <bonny> i asked how
[23:23] <slackmeister> i think you'll get the message in the update box the 28th that you can upgrade