[03:51] got a large issue with Natty... and not sure what to look at to start making sense of it... [03:51] two things are happening -- when I am at the login screen and select my name to login the session options never load that the computer is hard locked. [03:51] there are also times when the graphics become a series of lines across the screen... [03:51] I an hit cntl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal then... but the graphics session is hosed [03:51] Anyone have any idea what log files to look at? [03:52] I am trying the Xorg logs now [04:07] Night all... gonna call it a night and work on this in the AM [04:08] feel free to /msg me [11:50] ubuntu desktop (amd64, amd64+mac, powerpc) posted 20110425. i386 oversize, needs investigation. [11:51] kubuntu desktop (i386, amd64, amd64+mac, powerpc) posted 20110425. [12:12] ubuntu desktop powerpc is also oversized. have disabled it as well. === cypher is now known as czajkowski [14:06] GrueMaster, ubuntu netbook preinstalled omap3, omap4 and ubuntu-headless preinstalled omap3, omap4 posted. [14:07] chadadavis, amd64+mac images for Ubuntu desktop and Kubuntu desktop are posted on the iso tracker. [14:08] skaet, thanks, already working on them [14:10] skaet, kubuntu desktop amd64 still shows a 'Netbook' test. Should that be removed from the tracker? [14:10] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/5617/853 [14:16] chadadavis, hmm... prefer to get bdmurry or jibel to comment on that. Since we merged desktop and netbook editions into ubuntu, it may be appropriate. [14:29] chadadavis, why should we ? [14:29] hi btw :-) [14:30] Hi jibel, I had heard that netbook now only on omap, since desktop and netbook have merged. [14:32] chadadavis, desktop and netbook have been merged, means that the desktop environment is different whether you boot the same iso on a desktop or a netbook. [14:33] chadadavis, that's why there's a testcase for a live session on desktop and another on netbook [14:35] jibel, ah, so that's intended for different hardware? OK, then. [14:35] chadadavis, yes. [14:37] jibel, maybe that could be added to the instructions. That test seems to be missing a link to instructions at the moment. [14:42] chadadavis, ohoh, sure i should be added, actually most of the installation testcases needs a refresh, so many things changed in Ubiquity this cycle. [14:44] jibel, let us know how we can help out with that [14:48] jibel, do you know if we have an ETA for Ubuntu desktop i386? [14:51] skaet, ^ any ETA for the next round of i386 images and are we waiting for pitti's review ? [14:52] ara, good afternoon :-) [14:52] jibel, afternoon :) [14:53] jibel, no ETA, still looking for someone with the skills to do pull out the language pack so it fits. [14:53] ara, ^^ [14:53] skaet, Ok, thanks for the update [14:54] latest round of language pack updates and fixes have oversized the i386 image. What's in the daily build right now is probably fine for a smoketest though, not expecting any content to change at this point, other than a language pack to be removed. [14:54] skaet, ah, OK, good to know [14:55] skaet, we will use it then for our weekly testing and some needed smoke testing [14:55] skaet, don't drop French again ;-) [15:00] Hello, on two of mine three machine, live session start muted, can someone reproduce this issue ? [15:03] charlie-tca: as i'm not expert in Xubuntu, i'm asking why at the first boot of an installation with encrypted home it don't require the the steo for the passphrase as it happens in ubuntu ' [15:03] ? [15:03] steo/step [15:04] njin: I don't know why [15:05] Is home encrypted if you use recovery menu to boot and try to access it? [15:05] i've got to try when i try another install [15:07] I did not know just encrypted /home ever asked for the passphrase [15:08] Xubuntu and Kubuntu don't starts the step for the recovery passphrase [15:08] only ubuntu [15:08] correct, as far as I know. [15:09] no, xubuntu should give you an indicator when entire disk is encrypted. [15:09] If it is only /home, probably. [15:10] njin, the live CD has no muting problem for me in virtual box [15:11] the muting depends on the hardware itself. [15:12] chadadavis, thanks, then the expected behaviuor is that it start unmuted [15:12] charlie-tca, then for you is a linux bug ? [15:13] i'm not able to point this [15:13] also in usb key with persistence, if unmuted the first time, then it start unmuted [15:14] yes, it is linux or gnome's mixer, either one. I suspect it will be a linux bug [15:14] it is not fully starting the sound card [15:16] yes, can be true, if not started gnome mixer understand that theresn't a sound device [15:17] gnome mixer should be getting the information from the kernel, which makes it a linux bug [15:18] You probably can find another bug already reported for that sound card, even, for the exact thing. [15:21] * charlie-tca can't remember bug numbers, just sometimes the descriptions [15:39] skaet: Morning. Pulling now. [15:54] jibel, thanks for sending the iso testing email [15:56] jibel, pushed to the iso tracker the latest set of alternate images. ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-server and ubuntustudio have just been posted. [16:02] hello, just refering to iso testing, I submited a bug about upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 in which compiz didn't work, is there any way to know if this bug has been checked? [16:03] !bug 765664 [16:03] Launchpad bug 765664 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz not working after upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765664 [16:09] is there a way to get a gdb/ltrace/strace into the installar environment booted off an alternate or server cd ? [16:11] txomon, it could be possible the bug is a duplicate and wasn't marked as such. Let's hope it works today :) [16:12] penguin42: usually it is not needed, just save the debug logs when aborting [16:12] ok, I will update my computer once more.. but I dont think it will work [16:13] everything relative to compiz disappeared [16:13] charlie-tca: Yeh I've added the logs to the bug I reported but wondered if I could get further [16:13] If you get the syslog, media-info and hardware summary logs from the debug, it is usually enough [16:13] txomon, I would recommend looking for related bugs first [16:13] the devs can usually find the failure in the logs [16:14] * charlie-tca has had some weird failures, too. Never needed the trace, though [16:16] patrickmw: I found something a very little comparable, !bug 577806 [16:16] Launchpad bug 577806 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz desktop effects lost after logout & login or reboot (affects: 4) (heat: 18)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577806 [16:16] but there doesn't dissapear ALL the special effects bar [16:17] hggdh, bdmurray, ^^ please let us know if you see signs of https://launchpad.net/bugs/770041, cjwatson couldn't reproduce. [16:17] Launchpad bug 770041 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "natty server installation hang (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [16:18] skaet: the original reporter replied in that bug - do you know if cjwatson has seen the reply? [16:19] bdmurray, haven't seen cjwatson back online recently. He may have started traveling to london at this point. not sure. [16:20] okay, i'm trying to recreate it [16:20] skaet: Yeh that's my bug [16:21] penguin42: the debian-installer bug is yours? [16:22] bdmurray: Yep [16:22] I can freely recreate it in this VM, so if you can think of anything to try I'm up for it - but only for the next few hours [16:22] anything after that will have to wait until Friday [16:23] I could do with someone confirming bug 770322, system crash in Kubuntu ubiquity when hard disk already has a btrfs partition [16:23] Launchpad bug 770322 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Ubiquity system crash when detecting btrfs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770322 [16:24] penguin42: and you started from maverick and were installing natty over it? [16:25] bdmurray: Yes [16:26] bdmurray: It's a kvm guest in a natty desktop host [16:32] * stgraber starts rsyncing both Ubuntu Alternates and goes get some food [16:37] * ara syncs the alternates [17:16] jibel: filed bug 770349 for the first machine [17:16] Launchpad bug 770349 in linux (Ubuntu) "live session start muted, a11y installation impossible (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770349 [17:19] penguin42, how's your lvm setup ? no raid, no encryption, nothing specific ? Before installing natty over maverick, can you run the commands pvdisplay, vgdisplay and lvdisplay and attach the output to the bug report. [17:19] penguin42, also when you're trying to install natty, which option do you choose at the partitioner step ? [17:20] njin, Cool! thanks. [17:21] I've also send a mail to the ubuntu audio team [17:22] anyone managed to get ubuntu alternate amd64 to install ? [17:22] jibel: The partition step doesn't appear which is the problem [17:23] stgraber, no. I had issues too [17:23] jibel, bdmurray, ^^ see stgraber's question. [17:23] stgraber, it wouldn't detect my 64 bit cpu [17:24] I have xubuntu 64 installing now, will try ubuntu as soon as it finishes [17:24] ah, ok, mine starts the install just fine, then I get a red screen caused by computer-janitor and python-argparse failing to install, due to a segfault in python-argparse's postinst [17:24] jibel: Let me just get those commands for you - I think I should be able to get those from the alt-f2 of the installer CD [17:24] stgraber, ubuntu alternate is fine, what's happening ? [17:24] I'm retrying mine in case it was caused by a kvm issue (bad memory or similar) [17:27] penguin42, it might be a bug caused by a specific setup, we need as much information as possible. [17:27] penguin42, also there's this error 'Configuring 'partman-base' failed with error code 143' [17:27] that's probably why partman-auto is never called. [17:28] njin, do you use a usb key or cD ? [17:28] cd [17:29] jibel: Yeh curous isn't it [17:29] jibel: usb with and without persistence, obviously if i enable the sound in persistence it start enabled [17:32] That is noit the first time sound failed to start though, right? [17:32] jibel: OK, attached to the bug [17:32] njin, and it's muted even on a freshly created usb ? I can't reproduce it here. [17:33] jibel: I think njin's sound is also muted on a fresh install [17:33] jibel: yes [17:34] charlie-tca:yes [17:34] this on two machines [17:34] with different chipsets [17:35] njin: Do you just have to tell it to unmute or do you need to select a particular sound card or fight anything else? [17:36] penguin42: only unmute [17:36] according to charlie, we think that the sound card isn't started before gnome mixer detect it [17:37] It takes a fix specific to the hardware card to fix it [17:37] jibel: I can reproduce njin's bug with an Ensoniq sound card [17:38] charlie-tca, great, can you confirm his report then. [17:38] Okay, but not agaijnst a11y, it fails for all installs [17:40] charlie-tca: true [17:40] that should have been reported a long time ago, really [17:41] ok, re-running the install after rebooting my machine did the trick. /me hopes it was just a kvm glitch [17:41] stgraber, sorry, pretty late but so far alternate appears to be installing? [17:42] yeah, I just managed to get alternate amd64 to install without crashing here with the exact same setup as before. [17:42] penguin42, did you execute the commands requested by Colin's (comment #2) ? I see no execution trace when /lib/partman/automatically_partition/25replace/choices is called. [17:43] confirmed bug [17:43] jibel: Yes I did, I double checked I changed the -e to a -ex [17:44] penguin42, ok, thanks. I'll try to reproduce with this setup [17:44] does someone want me to test something ? [17:44] jibel: My suspicion is that nothing is listening to the stdout/stderr of 25replace/choices and that's why it's hanging - it is blocked in pipe_wait [17:44] njin: I am testing the encrypted /home only install in Xubuntu right now. will check if the /home does encrypt [17:45] charlie. sync ing Xubuntu now [17:46] njin, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested [17:46] jibel: I was working on recreating bug 770041 too, shall I stop? [17:46] Launchpad bug 770041 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "natty server installation hang (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770041 [17:46] jibel: The other thing that makes me suspicious of that (without knowing anything about the structure of parted) is that the last lines of /var/log/parted seem to say clocing infof and outfifo just before it runs the 25replace/choices - but there again that may be a result of the kill or irrelevant [17:46] you can help with kubuntu alternate i386 [17:47] but xubuntu is fine as well. the target is 100% coverage :-) [17:48] ok [17:49] bdmurray, go ahead, I'm having dinner soon and won't have time to reproduce this evening. Note that it's no a default setup and there is an active snapshot [17:49] jibel: Is there anything else I can extract from this? I'm only going to have a couple of hours more today before not being able to look until Friday; if I could get a gdb/ltrace/strace onto their I could attack the parted_server if it would be useful [17:53] penguin42, starting from this point, cjwatson will be able to guide you though a debugging session. The only thing we can do is to find the steps to reproduce and try to determine if it's a general problem with lvm or limited to a specific use case/setup. [17:53] jibel: Sure [19:11] I just had a weird situation where the alternate installer seemed hung at configuring man-db installing kubuntu alternate - I pressed space and it carried on [19:15] i've got d-i knowing that there's not network and try to update atp [19:15] apt [19:33] Has anyone tested ubuntu-desktop oem-config on x86/amd64 yet? I'm not seeing the slideshow on armel, and wanted to know if it was arch specific. [19:35] GrueMaster: tracker shows two tests done on ubuntu-desktop 64 with no bugs [19:36] Hmm. [19:37] njin: did you get the slideshow doing the desktop OEM ? [19:37] GrueMaster: yes N.P. in amd64 installations [19:37] Thanks, njin [19:37] I'll check in VirtualBox here with x86. [19:38] charlie-tca: what about the encrypted /home ? i'm installing just now [19:39] it is encrypted? [19:39] It encrypted, but never asked for the passphrase in xubuntu [19:39] then i think that is an Ubuntu feature [19:40] seems so [19:40] It does ask for password using full disk encryption with LVM [19:40] s/password/passphrase [19:40] encrypted home is very different than full disk encryption [19:40] encrypted home uses ecryptfs and logging in as you decrypts your home directory [19:41] Thank you, bdmurray [19:41] that was what I thought, but did not know for sure. [19:41] full disk encryption requires entering a passphrase to mount the encrypted partition [19:43] i'm talking about the /home encryption and the step when at first boot Ubuntu require the insertion of the user password to see the passphrase for recovering the encrypted /home [19:44] if anyone is available to help test the ubuntu studio alternate ISO's that would be oustanding [19:44] scott-work, i'm syncing the alternate [19:44] thank you njin :) [19:45] njin: which ubuntu studio images are you working on? i386 or amd64? [19:45] njin: didn't you get the blue circle with a ! in it? It shows up on the panel in Xubuntu the first boot [19:45] scott-work. amd64 [19:45] You click it and it does that [19:45] njin: thanks, i should be working on some of the i386 tonight :) [19:45] We don't force it the Ubuntu does, though [19:47] charlie-tca: i'm finishing the installation just now, also xubuntu start muted [19:47] I would have been really surprised if it did not start muted. It is a hardware thing [19:48] congrat from me [19:48] congratulation [19:49] why? [19:49] i was more oriented on gnome [19:50] Thank you [19:50] thank you for the lesson [19:50] no problem [19:50] It took me a couple of years to learn it [19:54] njin: I test all my hardware/bugs in both Ubuntu and Xubuntu to try and narrow things down [19:55] charlie-tca: and this is another good lesson [19:56] Took me a long time to learn that one, too. [19:56] charlie: damned invisible mouse again, resuming from screensaver in live session, help? [19:56] charlie-tca: ^^ [19:56] really? [19:56] yes [19:56] try switching terminals, Ctrl+Alt+F2, Alt+F7 [19:57] it works sometimes [19:57] nothings [19:57] hm, I don't have an answser to this one. [19:57] is present, working but invisible [19:58] I have seen it, but not for a long time now [20:00] bdmurray: ^^ how can i track this invisible mouse bug [20:00] Do you know which screensaver activated? [20:01] default black [20:01] i think xscreensaver [20:01] yup, xscreensaver, but it is random [20:01] I will try to reproduce it [20:01] yes random [20:02] That's what makes it hard to pin down, any of them might have tried to activate, and failed, and caused the mouse cursor to change color [20:02] one times it was afflicting ubuntu too, now i cannot see from much time [20:02] njin: no, I haven't run into that before [20:03] bdmurray, mouse poiter present but invisible after resume from screensaver [20:05] njin: try right clicking or pressing escape? I really don't know though [20:05] njin: can you do a log out/log in? to log in, user is 'ubuntu' and hit enter for password [20:06] nothing in Xorg.0.log [20:12] charlie-tca: can have sense (GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **:gdk_pixbuf_format_get_name:assertion 'format != NULL' failed [20:12] common error [20:13] ok i try your suggestion [20:17] Riddell: bug 770322 - shouldn't kernel crashes be assigned to linux rather than ubiquity? If the kernel is working correctly, ubiquity shouldn't be able to cause a crash no matter what it does [20:17] Launchpad bug 770322 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Kubuntu Ubiquity system crash when detecting btrfs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770322 [20:17] charlie-tca:_usr_bin_mousepad.999.crash [20:23] charlie-tca: i follow your instruction but mouse still invisible [20:23] I am out of ideas, then, except to reboot [20:23] trying to install xdiagnose? [20:24] uhm it need a reboot [21:20] hggdh, ping [21:21] jibel: pong [21:21] hggdh, Hey, are you familiar with lvm ? [21:21] jibel: a bit, yes [21:21] jibel: what happens? [21:21] hggdh, there's something that seems wrong to me with this setup https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70390884/lvmstatus [21:22] looking [21:22] the number of extends allocated to the sum of the LV is more than what's available on the PV [21:23] or I don't remember how snapshot extends are allocated [21:23] hggdh, btw this is bug 770041 [21:23] Launchpad bug 770041 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "natty server installation hang (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770041 [21:25] jibel: I'm not sure that this isn't a distraction [21:25] the cow-table LE is the number of extents allocated to the snapshot [21:25] jibel: I am confident that it is a real d-i bug somewhere [21:26] cjwatson, I'm trying to replicate the setup but it refuses to create the snapshot not enough exn [21:27] s/exn/extends [21:27] use the facility in the installer to not allocate the whole VG space up-front [21:27] ? [21:27] (or resize lvreduce, but that may be inconvenient) [21:27] *resize and lvreduce [21:30] jibel: I'm still working on that fwiw [21:30] jibel: getting ready to install natty now [21:35] patdk-wk, thanks. 4GB is the size. [21:35] yep of the snapshot [21:35] bdmurray, and does it hang ? [21:36] patdk-wk, and it fits on 40GB. [21:36] jibel: almost there ... [21:42] jibel: no hang for me [21:42] jibel: my partitioning scheme wasn't exactly the same though [21:45] bdmurray: did you at least have a snapshot? [21:46] cjwatson: yes, I did have that [21:49] looking again it seems to me that the sum of the lvs is larger than the vg [21:51] bdmurray, cjwatson , neither do I, and there's an active snapshot. I'm comparing the output of partman [21:57] my hunch is that blockdev is failing, I'd just like to know if that's so and under what conditions [21:57] (and I wish we'd had time to convert that code to grub-mount, though I suppose that would've been awkward on armel) [22:59] cjwatson, bdmurray, \o/ partman hanged [23:00] jibel: what was it? [23:00] the trick is that there's a partition on /dev/server1/server1-export [23:01] with the following scheme: 1 primary ext2 [23:01] 2 extended [23:02] 5 logical [23:02] 1 is 256MB and 2 is 20GB [23:02] and 5 too [23:02] jibel: did you do the set -ex changes I mentioned in the bug? [23:02] cjwatson, not yet. [23:02] (both of them, not just the first) [23:03] I was about to go to bed, but I'll stay up for a bit if you're likely to be able to do it shortly [23:04] I was about to go to bed too but I trying this now. === skaet is now known as skaet_ [23:10] cjwatson, I added -x in both of them, but the partitioner hangs and there's no trace of the shell execution in the logs [23:17] this partition must have been created from the iscsi initiator [23:27] jibel: can you put 'set -x' on the first line of /lib/partman/lib/base.sh, instead? [23:27] (if in doubt, use a bigger hammer) [23:27] jibel: you may need to kill the partitioner after the hang as I described in the bug before log entries appear [23:31] oh, heck. bed or I'll be dead tomorrow. [23:31] cjwatson, I'm following the path and adding -x in each script. I'm now somewhere in init.d/35dump [23:32] jibel: just do /lib/partman/lib/base.sh, that's sourced by everything that matters. [23:32] no point in doing every script individually. [23:32] I'll look at results tomorrow [23:33] cjwatson, already done, but nothing useful. It hangs suddenly in the middle of the output with "main-menu[332]: (pro " [23:33] see you tomorrow [23:34] jibel: you are heading out too? [23:36] bdmurray, yes I'm a bit tired now. it's 1230AM here [23:36] jibel: okay, is there anything I can help wrt the iso tracker? [23:37] bdmurray, with the tracker not really, excepted if new builds are out during the night (check on #u-release) and review the untriaged bugs in file:///home/j-lallement/tmp/buildlist/html/opened.html [23:38] jibel: I that's gonna 404 for me ;-) [23:39] er think [23:40] bdmurray, are you sure ? [23:40] bdmurray, try this one then http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/isotesting/natty/opened.html :-) [23:41] really time to go to bed me think.