[00:05] <vychune> yes
[00:06] <vychune> she now owes me a phone
[00:30] <wrst> good luck on collecting :)
[00:34] <vychune> lol
[00:49] <linuxman410> anyone here
[01:08] <Unbelievr> whats up?
[01:09] <wrst> hello Unbelievr
[01:10] <Unbelievr> hey there
[01:11] <wrst> how are you doing Unbelievr?
[01:11] <Unbelievr> doing pretty good...first time i been on irc in years..good to see life still here
[01:19] <wrst> ha ha barely usually here on the weekend but pretty active during the week Unbelievr
[01:20] <Unbelievr> cool...look forward to it..
[01:21] <wrst> Unbelievr: you an ubuntu user?
[01:21] <Unbelievr> ubuntu and its many spin offs
[01:23] <wrst> ha ha cool Unbelievr
[01:24] <Unbelievr> what about yourself?
[01:26] <wrst> yes use ubuntu and arch linux
[01:26] <wrst> ubuntu server and desktop and using arch linux on my laptop with gnome 3/shell
[01:27] <Unbelievr> cool...arch is great..every install is a adventure..lol
[01:27] <wrst> ha ha Unbelievr you know i have really never had an isssue just pull the wiki up and do as it says
[01:28] <wrst> well gotta go, we have a newborn baby so going to get some things done Unbelievr hope you hang around!
[01:28] <Unbelievr> take care..catch ya later!
[14:15] <Xpistos> Hey peps
[14:15] <Xpistos> or peeps
[14:15] <Xpistos> wrst:
[14:15] <wrst> hey Xpistos how are things going?
[14:20] <Xpistos> Still trying to get this damn cron job to work
[14:20] <wrst> Xpistos: on my servers i've always used webmin to do them for me :)
[14:22] <Xpistos> this is a work deal, but I will hit you up on how to do that cause my files server is back up, eventhough the stupid sata pci card won't read a 2 TB drive,
[14:22] <Xpistos> wrst: I can't use webmin on thsi box
[14:25] <wrst> ahh well understand not using webmin on certain machines
[14:29] <Xpistos> the more I think about this, I really doubt the gateway server does not have a cron editor or something
[15:45] <Xpistos> Is it any wonder why Joomla Sucks Ass!
[15:46] <Xpistos> I ask a question in the chat room. somone asks me a dumb question back, confirms he asked the wrong question, says "wierd" and starts telling jokes
[15:46] <Xpistos> Thanks guys
[15:51] <wrst> ha ha Xpistos can't say i'm a big joomla fan never really used it but I'm more of a drupal person, but i don't go deep into either one
[16:17] <pace_t_zulu> sata pci card won't read 2TB drive?
[16:20] <pace_t_zulu> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72329.html?wlc=1303744714 "Oracle's OpenOffice Surrender"
[16:20] <vychune> LOL
[16:22] <Xpistos> YEAH!
[16:22] <Xpistos> So does that mean that LibreOffice is going to be OpenOffice again/
[16:29] <vychune> i hope not
[16:31] <pace_t_zulu> no... seems like libreoffice is making a clean break
[16:32] <vychune> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
[16:59] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i kinda hope they get a better name
[17:00] <vychune> whats wrong with libreoffice?
[17:06] <wrst> just not my fav
[17:06] <vychune> oh well
[17:09] <pace_t_zulu> libreoffice isn't bad... less cumbersome than OpenOffice.org
[17:09] <pace_t_zulu> i'd say the name is an improvement
[17:13]  * vychune hits like button
[17:27] <wrst> the hole .org part is just goofy
[18:43] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ping
[18:44] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: pong
[18:46] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: put together a performance chart of the average geekbench scores of the macs i'v used since i switched in 2005
[18:46] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: http://www.psy.vanderbilt.edu/staff/haitas/macs/
[18:46] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: thought you might be interested
[18:47] <wrst> cool pace_t_zulu
[18:47] <wrst> powerbook g4 my wife still has one of those too
[18:47] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: nice to see the progression over time
[18:47] <wrst> a little long in the tooth but still a good machine
[18:48] <wrst> yes amazing the G4 when you look at her macbook pro
[18:48] <pace_t_zulu> looking at the powerbook g4 score validates the intel switch on performance alone
[18:48] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: do you know withc macbook pro she has?
[18:48] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i highly recommend the "MacTracker" app available in the Mac AppStore...
[18:48] <wrst> no not really, no wait its not a pro its an aluminum macbook actually
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> oh... she got the 13" aluminum macbook before they renamed that line to the macbook pro
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> so first generation 13" unibody
[18:50] <wrst> uhh don't know pace_t_zulu, its aluminum it was new i thought at least a year ago?
[18:50] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i feel like i recall she had it before lucid dropped... circa karmic...
[18:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: but she is your wife... so i trust you're memory would be better than mine
[18:51] <wrst> maybe so pace_t_zulu, it came through the school but a 320GB HDD
[18:51] <wrst> no actually pace_t_zulu your memory probably better than mine ;)
[18:51] <wrst> i beleive you are correct now that i think about it :)
[18:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: it's very easy to verify which model it is...
[18:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: that's one thing the MacTracker app is awesome for...
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> it just tracks the machines you own (just like the name says)
[18:52] <wrst> hmm might try that if she will ever let me look at it :)
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> and it's not limited to macs... you can track iphones, ipods, ipads etc...
[18:52] <wrst> cool
[18:52] <wrst> oh pace_t_zulu i tried upgrading from unity to gnome 3/shell last night... not so good :)
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> and subsequently you can get information on those machines very easily... like specs (uprgrading memory) warantee ... etc
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: anecdotal reports are that unity works out of the box far better than gnome3 ...
[18:54] <starsprout> howdy
[18:54] <pace_t_zulu> howdy starsprout ... welcome
[18:54] <wrst> yeah pace_t_zulu i thought if it worked well i would probably go with ubuntu/gnome3 instead of unity
[18:54] <wrst> hey starsprout
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: reviews of unity seem to be more positive than gnome 3 ...
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> so far
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: perhaps because the unity project has much more focused leadership ... and a practical roadmap to success
[18:55] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i'm just not seeing it, unity while improving is much more incomplete to me than gnome 3
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: new to #ubuntu-us-tn?
[18:56] <wrst> pace_t_zulu:  starsprout is a veteran :)
[18:56] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: unfamiliar name... someone we know who changed his handle? or am i just out of touch?
[18:57] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i fear you may be out of touch ;) or just not here when starsprout is around :)
[18:57] <starsprout> sirens blaring for an hour now in Memphis
[18:57] <starsprout> sheesh
[18:57] <starsprout> pace_t_zulu, I've been here before...just not for a while
[18:58]  * starsprout gotten a lot of great help here :-)
[18:58] <wrst> starsprout: storms?
[18:58] <starsprout> wrst, "tornado" to the east, and in n mississippi
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: perhaps you've been around during periods when i wasn't connected as often...
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: i'm on a persistent connection at the moment
[18:58] <starsprout> pace_t_zulu, live happens
[18:59] <wrst> one of those doppler tornados starsprout or the real deal?
[18:59] <starsprout> speaking of life, anyone know about .htaccess redirect rules? :-D
[18:59] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: you quasseling still or irssi?
[18:59] <wrst> starsprout: i know i have screwed up an .htaccess file before :)
[18:59] <starsprout> wrst, never can tell - it's really calm here in midtown, but stormy to our east
[19:00] <starsprout> wrst, I always back it up first, but I'm kinda stuck on this one...
[19:00] <wrst> i think we are supposed to be getting some nice stuff this afternoon
[19:00] <wrst> starsprout: i've alwyas figured that stuff out just barely enough to get by
[19:00] <starsprout> I named the SSL cert for "mydomain.com" but in the shopping cart it automatically redirects to www.
[19:00] <starsprout> so users get the cert error
[19:00] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: you into any web development?
[19:00] <starsprout> :-|
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yes... i maintain a number of sites
[19:01] <starsprout> to make it more weird, I've Joomla on the front end, and OSCommerce in the back
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: this is the site i spend the most time maintaining (the lab i work in): http://www.psy.vanderbilt.edu/faculty/schall/
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ^ what do you think
[19:02] <wrst> starsprout, pace_t_zulu is your man :)
[19:02] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: why don't you just include www on the cert?
[19:15] <starsprout> pace_t_zulu, is that possible? It's a Thawte cert and their customer support said I'd have order a new one
[19:16] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: in that case it may be easier to modify the ecommerce software to not redirect to www
[19:17] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: what ecommerce software are you using... is it configurable?
[19:23] <starsprout> oscommerce
[19:23] <starsprout> pace_t_zulu,  it's full of php and config files if that's what you mean :-)
[19:23] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: perfect
[19:24] <starsprout> heheh, wreg: "Abandon your mobile homes!!!"
[19:25] <starsprout> hmm...I see there's an .htaccess file in the oscommerce directory
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: the redirect issue is not likely related to a .htaccess file... thought it could be
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: more likely in a php file containing settings specific to your deployment of oscommerce
[19:26] <starsprout> in the root of the public_html I have .htaccess generated by joomla
[19:26] <starsprout> pretty complex
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: another option would be to reassing the domain name on the existing cert (if thawte allows that)
[19:27] <starsprout> I was able to tinker some RewriteCondition and RewriteRule options but not fully
[19:27] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: i have no experiencing purchasing ssl certs... always generate my own
[19:27] <starsprout> mailserver ssls - another puzzle I have, but this one is first :-)
[19:27] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: oscommerce "online merchant v x.x" which version are you using
[19:31] <starsprout> would I find that at the top of a file in the root?
[19:32] <starsprout> how about index.php,v 1.1
[19:32] <starsprout> pace_t_zulu, is it possible to have one set of .htaccess rules at the site root, and a rewriterule in a subdirectory's .htaccess file?
[19:33] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: yes it is
[19:33] <starsprout> :-)
[19:36] <starsprout> heheh, ok well now at least I'm confining my damage to the shopping cart subdirectory
[19:40] <starsprout> what is RewriteBase ?
[19:40] <starsprout> should I add the directory name if I'm using it in there?
[19:51] <pace_t_zulu> starsprout: i'd advise against modifying things you don't understand... you may introduce new problems that can be hard to track down later
[19:52] <starsprout> standard disclaimer noted - no user-serviceable parts inside
[19:53] <starsprout> fortunately I don't take tech advice well
[22:02] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: still struggling with cron?
[22:03] <Xpistos> no I think it is a script issue
[22:03] <Xpistos> I can set cron to run a touch FILENAME and it goes fine
[22:03] <Xpistos> the only difference is the arguements
[22:04] <Xpistos> I also have a box that I am testing it right now so I don't have to wait until tmorrow to check
[22:04] <Xpistos> the testfiles work fine tough
[22:16] <Xpistos> hey pace_t_zulu how do I delete everything in the folder, but not the forlder itself
[22:16] <pace_t_zulu> rm folder/*
[22:17] <Xpistos> thanks
[22:17] <pace_t_zulu> you'll want a -rf switch if there are subfolders in said folder
[22:17] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: ^
[22:19] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: got it
[22:21] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: okay, i have confirmed the script will run fine. Now it is not running from the cron job however so maybe it is the cron entry
[22:21] <Xpistos> 0 1 * * * /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh --msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1
[22:21] <Xpistos> Running at 1 am everyday
[22:21] <Xpistos> the file is located in /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/
[22:22] <Xpistos> and is called oZimbraBackup_1.0.1.sh
[22:23] <Xpistos>  if I run "oZimbraBackup_1.0.1.sh --msg-diff" it will run fine mannually
[22:23] <Xpistos> the script itself said to use the /dev/null 2>&1 if add to crontab
[22:23] <Xpistos> I have an empty space after the command in cron
[22:24] <Xpistos> or a cariage return rather