[02:27] <panfriedsidh> heita all
[08:48] <dyllan> hi all
[08:48] <queery> morning
[08:49] <dyllan> The only main difference between the thin client hardware that works and the one copied above that does not work is that non-working one had 2x DVI ports, do you think ltsp is getting confused about the dual DVI ports and therefore not able to bring up the ldm?
[08:49] <dyllan> The thin client hardware that IS working: http://www.devonit.com/_wp//wp-content/uploads/2010/07/DIT_TC5Xc_SSheet-email.pdf
[09:35] <Kilos> morning all
[09:46] <nlsthzn> Hi Uncle Kilos 
[09:46] <Kilos> hiya nl you at work
[09:46] <Kilos> grrr nlsthzn 
[09:47] <nlsthzn> not yet... night shift again
[09:47] <Kilos> missed the tab key
[09:47] <Kilos> ah
[09:49] <Kilos> oh yes me be doff. shoulda seen there no -work at the end
[10:04] <superfly> *yawn*
[10:14] <nlsthzn> :) but sleep for me now...
[10:26] <Kilos> lol lo superfly 
[10:27] <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn 
[11:42] <queery> hamub1, are you ok
[11:44] <hamub1> queery:i am alright and u?
[11:45] <queery> im good
[11:45] <queery> I see you keep loosing your connection
[11:46] <hamub1> ja i got a bad connection
[11:49] <hamub1> queery:  you still around?
[11:49] <queery> I am
[11:49] <queery> what connection are you using hamub1 
[11:51] <hamub1> 3g modem on mobile network
[11:51] <queery> oh ok
[11:52] <hamub1> and you?
[11:53] <queery> on the varsity network
[11:53] <queery> hehe
[11:55] <hamub1> free Mandela for you. wat are you studying?
[11:57] <queery> doing my Masters in Biochem
[11:59] <hamub1> oh lovely, i thought you were in I.T. Which varsity?
[12:00] <queery> nope
[12:00] <queery> im at Stellenbosch
[12:01] <hamub1> you not far from me then
[12:02] <queery> why where are you?
[12:47] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:47] <Kilos> thats a bad remote
[12:51] <drubin> hehe
[12:52] <Kilos> hiya drubin  you well?
[12:53] <Kilos> lo deegee
[12:54] <drubin> Kilos: I can't really complain
[12:56] <plustwo_> hey Kilos
[13:50] <Kilos> eish that remote goodie filling up my window with hamubs
[13:58] <nlsthzn> Kilos: there is a way to ignore the user... haven't done it but I know it is possible
[13:59] <Kilos> shame and i dunno even who he is
[14:00] <Kilos> found a site that says the got the nct/nuk for that usb modem but it first wants to download a download manager and its for windows
[14:00] <Kilos> grrr
[14:01] <Kilos> oh maybe it was nuc
[14:01] <Kilos> network unlocking key
[14:04] <Kilos> nck
[14:08] <plustwo_> hmmmm....
[14:11] <Kilos> times i think the internet made for another generation than mine
[14:14] <Kilos> Maaz, tell hanub1 to connect from some othe network
[14:14] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who hanub1 is. Say 'hanub1 on freenode' and I'll take your word that hanub1 exists
[14:14] <Kilos> oh
[14:14] <Kilos> Maaz, tell hamub1 to try connect another way
[14:14] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell hamub1 on freenode
[14:37] <Kilos> hey guys. where do i request the unlocking code here please
[14:38] <Kilos> i cant find the place to request it
[14:38] <Kilos> like post new request or something
[14:38] <Kilos> http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f88/some-zte-alcatel-free-unlocking-codes-request-only-here-906388/
[15:38] <jubei-za> Hi all, im trying to install the package "dhcp3-server" on a ubuntu server 10.04 LTS fresh install but apt-get says that the package is not in any of the repositores? any advice?
[15:39] <jubei-za> ive setup my ubuntu server with a pppoe connection and i am able to ping out to google.co.za so im sure the internet is working
[15:39] <tumbleweed> Maaz: rmadison dhcp3-server
[15:39] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Sorry...
[15:39] <tumbleweed> it should be there
[15:40] <jubei-za> i know its most frustrating!
[15:40] <tumbleweed> have you "apt-get update"d?
[15:40] <jubei-za> yeah itried that
[15:40] <tumbleweed> what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[15:41] <jubei-za> im very new to linux but it seems like all the usual stuff, a bunch of za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and the security.* ones
[15:41] <jubei-za> with varying lucid/main/resitricted/universe.multiverse options on different lines
[15:42] <jubei-za> ive been to the #ubuntu channel and they said i should come here and ask ... ? im very confused and not really sure why it wouldn't be in there....
[15:43] <tumbleweed> can you pastebin the contents? http://paste.ubuntu.com/ also the output of apt-get install dhcp3-server
[15:43] <jubei-za> sure it'll take me a minute
[15:43] <jubei-za> if you know how i would happily set up a remote root thingey..openssh i believe is one?
[15:44] <tumbleweed> let's avoid that if possible
[15:44] <jubei-za> im working off my laptop to talk to you, and the ubuntu server is on another machine with no gui installed so copying and pasting might be tricky!
[15:44] <tumbleweed> can you not ssh into it?
[15:45] <jubei-za> umm well you see, i want to setup the server as a home gate-way and have managed to use a pppoe connection to connect it to the internet via my telkom router
[15:45] <jubei-za> the server has a keyboard/monitor attached
[15:46] <jubei-za> so thats what i use to configure it
[15:46] <jubei-za> i havn't gotten as far as trying to remote console onto it
[15:46] <tumbleweed> ok, let's try some questions and answers then
[15:46] <jubei-za> im VERY new to all this less than a week
[15:46] <jubei-za> sure fire away
[15:46] <tumbleweed> in the /etc/apt/sources.list, do you have a line that starts without a "#" and contains deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main lucid 
[15:48] <jubei-za> ive got one without the comment # infront of it saying: deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted and the accompanying deb-src line
[15:48] <tumbleweed> fine
[15:48] <tumbleweed> when you run apt-get update, are there errors?
[15:48] <jubei-za> nope it just updates
[15:48] <jubei-za> gives percentages and it seems to work, no errors reported
[15:48] <tumbleweed> "apt-cache search dhcp" do anything?
[15:49] <jubei-za> Fetched 286kb in 9s (30.0Kb/s)
[15:49] <jubei-za> oh wow
[15:49] <jubei-za> ok sorry
[15:49] <jubei-za> there are some errors
[15:49] <tumbleweed> which are?
[15:49] <jubei-za> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/realease
[15:50] <jubei-za> there are quite a few like W: bla bla
[15:50] <jubei-za> im typing it out here
[15:50] <jubei-za> is it easy to ssh onto the server?
[15:50] <jubei-za> i can ping the server from this machine
[15:50] <jubei-za> and im running lubuntu on here
[15:50] <tumbleweed> do you have an ssh server installed?
[15:51] <jubei-za> i havnt no, and i have no clue if it comes installed by default
[15:51] <tumbleweed> no, it doesn't come bf default
[15:51] <tumbleweed> sounds like your server isn't really connected to the internet
[15:51] <jubei-za> hmm it does ya
[15:51] <jubei-za> but i type "ping mweb.co.za" and it gets a reply ?
[15:51] <jubei-za> 25ms
[15:52] <jubei-za> it resolves to 196.2.63.51
[15:52] <jubei-za> which i vaguely remember is mewbs ip
[15:52] <tumbleweed> you aren't capped?
[15:52] <jubei-za> nope im dialling a 384 mweb uncapped
[15:53] <jubei-za> maybe this may help: i use the telkom router to dial up my mweb account as usual, then i have the server dialling a pppoe connection over that
[15:53] <jubei-za> im plugged into the router now on this laptop and so is the server
[15:53] <tumbleweed> are you allowed 2 concurrent sessions with mweb uncapped?
[15:54] <jubei-za> the catch is its from the same line
[15:54] <jubei-za> so yes, afaik its allowed, and its work
[15:54] <jubei-za> works*
[15:54] <tumbleweed> I don't know if that makes any difference, but yes you appear to have some connectivity
[15:54] <tumbleweed> you don't have a proxy set or something?
[15:54] <jubei-za> nope just straight through the router
[15:55] <jubei-za> maybe it is my network setup
[15:55] <jubei-za> its very complicated
[15:55] <jubei-za> to explain
[15:55] <jubei-za> where can i put a picture up?
[15:55] <tumbleweed> try this: wget -O- http://google.com/
[15:55] <jubei-za> for you to see?
[15:55] <tumbleweed> if you don't have wget, try curl http://google.com/
[15:56] <jubei-za> claims -0- is an invalid option
[15:56] <tumbleweed> Oh not Zero
[15:57] <jubei-za> mising url ?
[15:57] <tumbleweed> no I meant that is an O, the letter
[15:57] <jubei-za> yeah i tried with a letter o and it says missing url ...
[15:57] <jubei-za> i tried to apt-get install curl
[15:57] <jubei-za> problems
[15:58] <jubei-za> says package curl is not available
[15:58] <tumbleweed> you can't install things :)
[15:58] <tumbleweed> you must have mystyped the URL
[15:58] <tumbleweed> also O, not o
[15:59] <jubei-za> i type "wget -O http://google.com"
[15:59] <tumbleweed> no
[15:59] <tumbleweed> -O-
[15:59] <jubei-za> and it says wget: missing URL
[15:59] <jubei-za> LOL im such a retard
[15:59] <jubei-za> ok she works
[15:59] <tumbleweed> did that spew out some HTML?
[15:59] <jubei-za> yep, loads
[15:59] <tumbleweed> ok, wget -O- http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release
[16:00] <tumbleweed> seeing as that was the error you mentioned
[16:00] <jubei-za> ya it spits more HTML
[16:01] <tumbleweed> actually it should be plain text
[16:01] <jubei-za> ok weird though, both outputs look identical at the bottom
[16:01] <jubei-za> like both commands output the same html file?
[16:01] <tumbleweed> ok, you'll have to try and read it :)
[16:02] <superfly> sounds like you're hitting a page on a proxy
[16:02] <jubei-za> yeah im roughly familiar with HTML, and it is exactly the same
[16:02] <tumbleweed> superfly: yeah that's what I'm thinking
[16:02] <jubei-za> that is weird, there is no proxy...?  the server in plugged into router, and the server dials a pppoe conn, i checked it in ifconfig
[16:02] <tumbleweed> jubei-za: what is it? Is it an error / login form?
[16:03] <tumbleweed> jubei-za: "route -n" does the 0.0.0.0 route go to ppp0?
[16:03] <jubei-za> look i dont know what it is the console tapers off the top section, its alot of lines of HTML! but the bottom sections are identical
[16:04] <tumbleweed> actually you told us the answer ages ago
[16:04] <tumbleweed> Maaz: get 196.2.63.51
[16:04] <Maaz> tumbleweed: 302 Redirect to http://landingpages.mweb.co.za/MWebHomeIncorrectUsernameorPasswordPage/tabid/817/Default.aspx, which gets a 200 OK "IMPORTANT NOTICE"
[16:04] <tumbleweed> jubei-za: tell mweb they are a bunch of gits
[16:04] <jubei-za> lol i would love to, but thats just because of the shaping they do on my account
[16:04] <jubei-za> why now?
[16:05] <tumbleweed> the ip address you gave for mweb.co.za isn't the same IP address I see for mweb.co.za
[16:05] <superfly> jubei-za: ^^ that's your proxy
[16:05] <tumbleweed> and it's webserver redirects you to "MWebHomeIncorrectUsernameorPasswordPage" <- get the picture?
[16:08] <jubei-za> aaah pppoe internet connection not setup right! ok 
[16:08] <jubei-za> lemme techeck
[16:08] <jubei-za> lol
[16:13] <jubei-za> lol was probably a little goofed when i put in the user/pass :)
[16:14] <tumbleweed> I suppose this is rather user-friendly of them, but it's very sysadmin-unfriendly
[16:16] <jubei-za> ok the apt-get update is taking alot longer now, so i assume i will get the dhcp3-server package as well, thanks for all the help!
[16:17] <tumbleweed> np, I wish all debugging was this fun
[16:51] <jubei-za> Maaz: get 196.2.63.51
[16:51] <Maaz> jubei-za: 302 Redirect to http://landingpages.mweb.co.za/MWebHomeIncorrectUsernameorPasswordPage/tabid/817/Default.aspx, which gets a 200 OK "IMPORTANT NOTICE"
[16:59]  * nlsthzn waves
[16:59] <Kilos> superfly,  modem working
[17:00] <superfly> Kilos: excellent!
[17:00] <Kilos> but i am a bit ashamed , i had to use a winsucks pc to get it installed to enter the unlock code
[17:00] <Kilos> without wvdial. nm went straight online without even setting anything
[17:00] <superfly> Kilos: you should have tried to use WINE - but I guess then you would have had to download and install it, hey?
[17:00] <Kilos> i have wine but dont like it
[17:01] <nlsthzn> Congrats Mr. Kilos ...
[17:01] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[17:01] <Kilos> i very happy
[17:01] <Kilos> maverick rocks
[17:01] <Kilos> nm went straight online
[17:02] <Kilos> now i can also download in the 100s of Ks instead of 36KB per sec
[17:02] <Kilos> yoo hoo
[17:03] <nlsthzn> Which means your cap just gets busted so much faster :p
[17:03] <Kilos> lol
[17:03] <Kilos> there no cap
[17:03] <nlsthzn> Ah sweet!!
[17:03] <Kilos> but very frustrating to wait
[17:03] <Kilos> pay as you go
[17:03] <Kilos> no money no data
[17:04] <Kilos> now to apply myself to getting sa broadband to get cheaper
[17:06] <Kilos> here the site for all of ya
[17:06] <Kilos> Maaz, unlock mobile
[17:06] <Maaz> http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-906388-p-63.html
[17:07] <Kilos> now those unhappy with cellc can change
[17:07] <nlsthzn> Nice... not sure how legal in SA but nice :p
[17:11] <superfly> yeah, not sure how legal in any country, but personally I think that locking your device is anti-competitive behaviour
[17:11] <superfly> I wonder what the competition commission would say
[17:11] <superfly> Vodacom and MTN used to lock cellphones, back in the day
[17:12] <superfly> I don't think they've done it for years though
[17:14] <nlsthzn> Not sure... but it makes sense on a product they give away for free or or a reduced price, they need to make money via you spending on re-charge... but you can always buy the unlocked version for the full price... so I am sure they are in the clear on it...
[17:14] <superfly> I have to buy my way out of my contract - is that not enough?
[17:15] <Kilos> eish
[17:15] <nlsthzn> well... I don't know... you signed it in the first place :p
[17:15] <nlsthzn> but I have not heard of locked phones on contract though... only on pre-paid...
[17:17] <Kilos> methinks all contract fones are locked to the sp
[17:18] <superfly> nlsthzn: in most cases you buy your own phone?
[17:18] <superfly> Kilos: no
[17:18] <Kilos> oh
[17:18] <Kilos> learn something new everyday
[17:20] <nlsthzn> superfly: I used to take the phone given on the contract... used too when I was still in SA... Now I have to buy my own...
[17:21] <superfly> nlsthzn: well, my latest phone I bought myself, and gave my wife my contract phone
[17:24] <nlsthzn> I still have my contract phone and contract... I have been in this country for more than two years... still not been able to cancel it :/ autopage ftl :(
=== nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work
[17:26] <Kilos> even my evolution is quicker
[17:26] <Kilos> i very happy
[17:27] <nlsthzn-work> :)
[19:32] <nuvolari> g'evening mrs_fly 
[19:33] <nuvolari> welcome
[19:33] <superfly> nuvolari: I just logged her back in
[19:33] <nuvolari> superfly: oh :P
[19:34] <nuvolari> g'evening to you then superfly :P
[19:34] <superfly> hehe, evening nuvolari
[19:35] <nuvolari> ok, travelling home. G'night everyone
[19:44] <Chat6023> molweni
[19:45] <superfly> hi Chat6023
[19:46] <Kilos> lo Chat6023 funny nick you got
[19:46] <Chat6023> hw u doin superfly
[19:46] <superfly> sick thank you
[19:46] <Chat6023> this App chose it for me
[19:47] <Kilos> lol
[19:47] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:47] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: what's wrong?
[19:47] <Chat6023> whts wrong with u?
[19:47] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: nasty cold
[19:47] <Kilos> what app you using?
[19:47] <Chat6023> thank u
[19:47] <Chat6023> chatmosphere
[19:48] <Kilos> never heard of it
[19:49] <Kilos> are you using windows
[19:49] <Chat6023> which one r u using?
[19:49] <Kilos> xchat in ubuntu
[19:49] <Chat6023> nope, my blackberry
[19:49] <Kilos> ah
[19:50] <Chat6023> yhep
[19:50] <Chat6023> do u have medication @superfly?
[19:50] <nlsthzn-work> Chat6023: well, somplace in the settings you will be able to change that :)
[19:50] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: changing of season colds are the worst!
[19:51] <Chat6023> hope i'll find it soon
[19:51] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: dunno, this is something the little monster picked up from one of the other kids at Sunday School
[19:52] <Kilos> lol
[19:52] <superfly> of course now the whole family has it, so we have had lots of fun this weekend
[19:52] <Chat6023> whr u guys from?
[19:53] <superfly> the land of whole words
[19:55] <Chat6023> lol...whrt is tht?
[19:55] <superfly> the land where we use whole words to talk
[19:56] <nlsthzn-work> to some people sarcasm is only a word starting with s
[19:56] <Kilos> now now guys
[19:56] <Kilos> hard work texting onna fone
=== Chat6023 is now known as Surge-Beats
[19:56] <Kilos> blackberry got tiny keys
[19:57] <Surge-Beats> yhep bt i like!
[19:57] <Kilos> pc much easier
[19:59] <Surge-Beats> my mobile is my everthin. it does everthing yo pc can do
[19:59] <Kilos> na
[19:59] <Surge-Beats> hw big r yo fingers?
[19:59] <Kilos> need to use finger nails for a blackberry
[20:00] <Surge-Beats> ...well almost everthing..lol
[20:00] <Kilos> lol
[20:00] <nlsthzn-work> A Blackberry do all a PC can do... call me when it can do what an Android can do;)
[20:00] <Surge-Beats> lol
[20:00] <Kilos> and when it can write dvd's
[20:00] <Kilos> and charge cell phones
[20:01] <Surge-Beats> hahaha
[20:01] <Kilos> hehe
[20:01] <Surge-Beats> i said almost everthing
[20:02] <Kilos> we are in south africa and you?
[20:02] <Surge-Beats> me 2
[20:03] <Surge-Beats> whr abt?
[20:03] <Kilos> good. thats why the blackberry can reach us
[20:03] <Kilos> hehe
[20:03] <Kilos> pretoria and cape town 
[20:03] <Kilos> all over actually
[20:04] <Surge-Beats> m in east london
[20:04] <Surge-Beats> m
[20:04] <Kilos> fancy toy you got there
[20:05] <Surge-Beats> i think so too..lol
[20:05] <Kilos> but the i doesnt work too well
[20:05] <Surge-Beats> wht do u mean?
[20:05] <Kilos> m in east london
[20:06] <Kilos> where you learned to chat like that
[20:06] <Surge-Beats> really nw
[20:06] <Surge-Beats> hw do i chat?
[20:06] <Kilos> shorten words
[20:07] <Kilos> some of us are older and dont understand
[20:07] <Surge-Beats> in chatrooms like this
[20:08] <Surge-Beats> older? hw older?
[20:08] <Kilos> this is actually a help room for ubuntu help
[20:08] <Kilos> near 60
[20:08] <Surge-Beats> k
[20:09] <Surge-Beats> Ubuntu the operating system?
[20:09] <superfly> blackberry can NOT do everything my PC can do... my phone can do *almost* anything my PC can do, and it can do way more than a blackberry
[20:09] <Kilos> and we come here for cyber coffee
[20:09] <superfly> or an Android (nlsthzn-work)
[20:10] <Kilos> go superfly 
[20:10] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on]
[20:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[20:10] <Kilos> grr
[20:10] <Surge-Beats> i see
[20:10] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[20:10]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[20:10]  * superfly has a Nokia N900 which runs Linux like you have on your PC
[20:10] <Kilos> great
[20:11] <Kilos> wanna swop
[20:11] <nlsthzn-work> superfly is da 1337 sauce
[20:11] <nlsthzn-work> ;)
[20:11] <superfly> bwahahaha
[20:11] <Kilos> lol
[20:12] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: the N900 is the phone that the marketing department never heard about - so it's a real geek phone
[20:12] <nlsthzn-work> if I had a n900 I would also have a proper OS on it... just because :)
[20:13] <superfly> though, if you're a quasselite, there is an Android Quassel client
[20:14] <nlsthzn-work> Quassel is an OK client
[20:14] <superfly> it's quite hectic, in developer terms, it reimplements a bunch of Qt C++ code in Java
[20:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[20:14] <nlsthzn-work> Maaz: coffee please
[20:14] <Maaz> nlsthzn-work: There isn't a pot on
[20:14] <nlsthzn-work> not again... why I always loose out :/
[20:15] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: in terms of an IRC client, yes, Quassel doesn't do everything that all the other ones do, since it's quite young
[20:15] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[20:15] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[20:15] <superfly> but it's a GUI IRC bouncer, which is the awesomesauce part
[20:15] <superfly> Maaz: coffee on
[20:15]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[20:15] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: ^^ now's your chance!
[20:15] <nlsthzn-work> I won't know... not being a power user I won't know :)
[20:15] <nlsthzn-work> Maaz: coffee please
[20:15] <Maaz> nlsthzn-work: Alrighty
[20:16] <Kilos> yay you made it
[20:16] <nlsthzn-work> thanks superfly, Kilo's always grabs a cup and leaves me high and dry :p
[20:16] <Kilos> hehe
[20:16] <nlsthzn-work> ;)
[20:16] <superfly> :-)
[20:17] <nlsthzn-work> btw, ubuntu.ae ... at the moment re-directing to our wiki... I think it is looking ok for a start...
[20:18] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: if you want our website setup and theme, just yell
[20:18] <Kilos> where is your irc channel nlsthzn-work 
[20:19] <Kilos> there is no #ubuntu.ae
[20:19] <Kilos> only me there
[20:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for superfly and nlsthzn-work!
[20:19] <nlsthzn-work> Maaz: thanks
[20:19] <Maaz> nlsthzn-work: No problem
[20:19] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: not an irc channel... it was a url :p
[20:20] <nlsthzn-work> the irc channel is #ubuntu-ae :)
[20:20] <Kilos> yeah but without an irc channel you sukkel
[20:20] <Kilos> ah
[20:20] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: link to the site so I can see it
[20:20] <superfly> http://ubuntu-za.org/
[20:20] <Kilos> funny names there hey
[20:21] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: we will be changing to .org as well in the near future
[20:21] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: :)
[20:21] <Kilos> lol
[20:22] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: Looks good... I will definitly link the guys to it and I might come hassle you for the theme later :) thanks
[20:22] <superfly> sure
[20:27] <nlsthzn-work> :)
[20:52] <nlsthzn-work> Maaz: kilos blog
[20:52] <Maaz> nlsthzn-work: *blink*
[20:52] <nlsthzn-work> Maaz: kilos.blog
[20:52] <Maaz> nlsthzn-work: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/
[21:00] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: So I guess I have to start reading your blog from the earliest date backwards then :)
[21:00] <Kilos> ya
[21:00] <Kilos> lol
[21:00] <Kilos> thats how i learned the little i know about pcs
[21:01] <Kilos> all thanks to ubuntu-za
[21:01] <nlsthzn-work> Cool :)
[21:04] <Kilos> i go crash now. night all sleep tight
[21:08] <superfly> nlsthzn-work: yeah, it's worth a read
[21:08] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: busy as I type :)