[00:00] <rich542> Each time after usb-creator finished it ends up with 4.
[00:00] <rich542> Before it has 1
[00:00] <ruser> ok
[00:00] <reedyseth> Hey guys !, does anybody now how to configure properly the display setting when booting?
[00:00] <ruser> I'll try youtube-dl, but it might not work
[00:00] <chelz> rich542: use unetbootin
[00:00] <ruser> I switched to yaydl but that was discontinued too
[00:00] <chelz> ruser: try jdownloader
[00:00] <chelz> ruser: after youtub-edl
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> rich542: then try the other apps I named
[00:01] <rich542> chelz: why is changing the program used to install a boot loader going to fix the partition structure of the usb disk? I don't see the connection.
[00:01] <html_inprogress> Soothsayer,  windows is a pain to in stall,  and i think the Dr_Willis caN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION , which it has to do with the grub , and im limtied on that supject, ,,,, he will be around in a few hours to8
[00:01] <chelz> rich542: oh. right. you should format that usb thing to just fat32.
[00:01] <Soothsayer> zvacet: where should my swap area go?
[00:01] <Cody3290> Its harder to install windows after ubuntu, since oyu have to fix the GRUB loader
[00:01] <chelz> rich542: i forgot unetbootin doesn't do partitioning
[00:01] <Cody3290> its easier to install ubuntu after you install windows
[00:02] <Soothsayer> html_inprogress: windows is really easy to install.. what's a pain about it ?
[00:02] <rich542> chelz: It is fat32 now
[00:02] <chelz> Cody3290: eh after a bit of practice is pretty easy
[00:02] <chelz> rich542: but just one or a few?
[00:02] <Cody3290> True
[00:02] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: I see.. luckily I have windows already installed.
[00:02] <reedyseth> Hey guys !, does anybody now how to configure properly the display setting when booting?
[00:02] <Cody3290> So whats hte problem with burning an ubuntu disc and loading it at startup, Soothsayer?
[00:02] <tecnovirtua> Boa noite
[00:02] <escott> Soothsayer as long as you dont move or resize your windows boot partition things should be ok
[00:02] <Igor_Elez> ruser Or Try MiniTube program, it has a nice GUI and besides that it plays youtube videos in Java insted of Flash it also has a nice option of Downloading videos! :)
[00:03] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: basically, I'm not sure how I should do the setup.. whether to put both the OS's on one hard drive and all data on another or one hard drive for windows and one for ubuntu ?
[00:04] <chelz> reedyseth: depends on your graphics card, but if you mean like having the proper resolution, one way is to put a "vga=" line in your grub config
[00:04] <gartral> Soothsayer: i've done both, it's faster if you split OS/Data.
[00:04] <escott> Soothsayer either will work. The advantage of putting ubuntu on disk 2 is you can put grub on the mbr of disk2 and set disk2 as the boot disk chain loading disk 1
[00:04] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: That's a matter of preference, I think. If you're gonna have all the data on another drive, the partition that the OSes are on doesn't have to be too big, just big enough to carry the OSes and maybe some space to spare
[00:04] <Cody3290> What escott says
[00:04] <Soothsayer> that's three different opinions.. :)
[00:04] <rich542> chelz, I get from testdisk: bad relative sector, bad starting sector, bad ending sector (chs and lba don't match) only one partition must be bootable.
[00:04] <ChronicSyncope> i have a bunch of things running in sysmon that i can't close with killall (rtorrent)
[00:05] <ChronicSyncope> how do i kill them?
[00:05] <chelz> rich542: do you have anything you want to keep on that usb drive?
[00:05] <Soothsayer> gartral: makes sense..
[00:05] <chelz> Soothsayer: you might think about your discs possibly dying. if you have ubuntu and windows on separate drives, then if one drive dies you still have an os
[00:05] <rich542> chelz: no.
[00:05] <escott> Soothsayer, do you want what is easy, what is faster, or what is better backed up
[00:05] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: ye, I could just allocate around 150 gb for bot the OS's
[00:05] <chelz> rich542: are you currently in windows?
[00:05] <ruser> jhow
[00:05] <ruser> hoiw
[00:05] <ruser> how does jdownloader download stuff
[00:05] <rich542> chelz, yes
[00:05] <aroman> hi, I really need to edit my grub.cfg file on Maverick, but I can see that it's read-only, even for root. I guess this is because grub2 doesn't want anyone messing with that file, but I really need to. How can I do what I want to do, or what is the grub2 equivalent? thanks
[00:05] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: 150gb for JUST the OSES? o.O That's... Overkill
[00:05] <Soothsayer> chelz: oh ye... and if I have all my data on one hard drive.. I can afford to lose a lot in the data disc dieing
[00:05] <chelz> ruser: you add links, then they download
[00:06] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: lot of Adobe, Video Editing, IDE's, etc shit on the Windows one :-P
[00:06] <ruser> I see
[00:06] <Soothsayer> already at 98 GB
[00:06] <chelz> aroman: you shouldn't edit grub.cfg, you edit other files then run an update command that creates a grub.cfg
[00:06] <ruser> I like youtube-dl also, only I don't have python for windows
[00:06] <escott> easier ubuntu on disk 2, faster system on disk 1 data on disk 2 or raid stripping, backed up raid1 mirroring
[00:06] <sweb> how can i logout daemon user ?
[00:06] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: Then that's not only the OS. That's the OS + Installed Programs.
[00:06] <aroman> chelz: right, I understand that, but I don't know how to do what I want to do without manually editing the menu entry.
[00:07] <Soothsayer> How about on the smaller Disk I use some space for the OS and the rest of the space for data.. (which is like backups of important stuff from disk 2)
[00:07] <QaDeS> my box gets really slow sometimes, causing even the mouse and keyboard leds to hang. running on 2.6.32-31-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:25:51 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: so learn! :D
[00:07] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: well, on windows.. we're so used to installing programs in the partition of the OS :-P so don't blame me!
[00:07] <aroman> chelz: I don't think it's possible is what I mean
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: what do you want to do?
[00:08] <aroman> add a rootdelay to the kernel command in a menuentry
[00:08] <Soothsayer> How about on the SMALLER Disk I use some space for the OS and the REST for data too so I can minimize the risks of all data being on one drive incase the data drive crashes.
[00:08] <chelz> aroman: oh totally possible. you add that to either defaultopts or another place, depending on whether or not you want it part of recovery options also
[00:09] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: If you're really worried abotu data loss, you can back up your stuff online
[00:09] <Cody3290> Mediafire is a good free service
[00:09] <QaDeS> top doesn't show any cpu hog, but the system monitor has the dark blue layer right up to the top. any ideas what's causing the lag, or how i can fix it?
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> i can't seem to kill a process with sudo killall or sudo kill -9
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> it's using all of my CPU
[00:09] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: online backups are difficult.. i'm on a slow internet :@
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> it says it's killed but it's still showing up in sysmon, and it's still using all of my cpu
[00:09] <aroman> chelz: What file do I need to edit, then? grub.cfg doesn't seem like its relevant at all
[00:09] <Igor_Elez> Is there a way to install BURG insted of GRUB 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 ? I can't manage to do that the way i did it on Ubuntu 10.10 :/
[00:09] <escott> ChronicSyncope, send it kill -HUP
[00:09] <chelz> aroman: one of those files in /etc/grub.d/
[00:09] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: Oh.
[00:10] <Cody3290> BURG is GRUB backwards, lol.
[00:10] <escott> ChronicSyncope, rather kill -s HUP
[00:10] <Cody3290> JUst making an obvious observation, :3
[00:10] <escott> ChronicSyncope, that will cause data loss for that program
[00:10] <chelz> aroman: there's a list of the default files in /etc/grub.d/ on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:11] <ChronicSyncope> escott, ~$ bash: kill: -HUP: invalid signal specification
[00:11] <rich542> chelz: Is there something i can do in testdisk to fix the drive?
[00:11] <Nzaw4> quick question when i update using syntpic package manager, when it updates a enw kernel, and i reboot, it wont load up the gui, and just loads the termial when i load the newst kernel
[00:11] <hoodstar901> cant seem to find this bigmem???????/ doesnt seem to have a directory for these download fro these sourcves?
[00:11] <chelz> rich542: the drive is fine, just have to repartition it.
[00:11] <Nzaw4> ive tried startx, and i think its gnome start,i cant get back into the Gui.. please hellp , im the super noob
[00:12]  * Nzaw4 Super noob girl needs help :(
[00:12] <chelz> rich542: xp, vista or 7?
[00:12] <reedyseth> chelz:  after trying to change my display settings with some program it turned to display nothing but a blank window when loading
[00:12] <rich542> chelz, 7
[00:12] <Soothsayer> gartral, Cody3290, escott : So if keep the OS's in one partition and data in another... in Ubuntu, I'll have to mount the User's directory to the new hard drive?
[00:12] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it didn't stop the process
[00:12] <escott> Soothsayer, you add it to the fstab and it will be mounted automatically (specify it in the install and ubuntu will create the fstab for you)
[00:12] <aroman> chelz: oooooh, I see how this works now
[00:13] <chelz> rich542: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Can-I-repartition-my-hard-disk
[00:13] <escott> ChronicSyncope, kill -s HUP shouldn't be trapable, it is zombied?
[00:13] <AngryBlackGuy> hey quick question, is 7zip not compatible with Linux's zip ?
[00:13] <chelz> rich542: do that but select the usb drive and just make it so there's one big fat32 partition
[00:13] <Nzaw4> quick question when i update using synaptic package manager, when it updates a new kernel, and i reboot, it wont load up the gui, and just loads the terminal when i load the newest kernel. Ive tried typing startx, and gnome, i cant get back into the GUI ? can anyone help me please?
[00:13] <hoodstar901> cghelz what exactly areu tryinhto do?
[00:13] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it's rtorrent
[00:13] <AngryBlackGuy> because i couldnt unzip in ubuntu a zip archive i created in windows 7
[00:13] <reedyseth> chelz: and even when i press crtl+alt+f1 to switch to tty i can't see nothing
[00:14] <Soothsayer> escott: hmm.. so where do packages I install through aptitude, etc go? In the OS partition or the other?
[00:14] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it's opened about 5 times, and one of the processes says uninterruptable. I'm not sure that I know what zombied means
[00:14] <rich542> chelz, I already did that it appears in windows as 1 fat32 primary partition. in testdisk however it shows 4 different type partitions.
[00:14] <sweb> please help me to run 'uniconv' via php
[00:14] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, reboot and choose your old kernel from the grub menu
[00:14] <sweb> :(
[00:14] <escott> Soothsayer, most in /usr (which you could put on its own partition, but its seldom necessary disks are so big now)
[00:15] <escott> ChronicSyncope, uninterruptable means it is running something in the kernel, perhaps it is waiting on a socket operation that could take a few minutes
[00:15] <Nzaw4> tjiggi_fo: i just did... so i cant use the new kernels from the package manager?
[00:15] <chelz> rich542: testdisk is designed to look for deleted stuff, so that might be fine. in windows does it have a free space amount that is about the same as the size of the usb drive?
[00:15] <Zburatorul> i'm having some major IO issues on 10.10 with Gnome. where should i start figuring it out?
[00:15] <Soothsayer> escott: Putting something like /usr in its own partition is something that is done during install time or later?
[00:15] <ChronicSyncope> escott, there are 4 other processes called rtorrent that dont say that, which i cant stop
[00:15] <escott> Soothsayer, yes determine your partitions prior to the install
[00:15] <Igor_Elez> Is there a way to install BURG insted of GRUB 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 ? I can't manage to do that the way it was done in all older versions of Ubuntu :/ ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO IT?
[00:15] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, to use the new kernel you'll have to sort out your graphics problem
[00:16] <Nzaw4> ahh its a graphics problem
[00:16] <ChronicSyncope> escott, collectively they're running my fast cpu up to 100% :p
[00:16] <Cube``> hey, i have lost my /etc/init.d/mysql. how can i get it back?
[00:16] <rich542> chelz: it shows 14.8 gb for a 16gb device.
[00:16] <Soothsayer> escott: ok. And what file system to pick for the Ubuntu OS + data partitions? Ext4 or NTFS ?
[00:16] <Nzaw4> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[00:17] <Zburatorul> Cube: try  dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[00:17] <matt444> When I do a Ctrl+Alt+F1 the screen only flickers and I never get a login.  Does this mean my display only works with X?
[00:17] <reedyseth> rich542: it is correcto it never shows it size as we define it
[00:17] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, np
[00:17] <escott> Soothsayer, if you want to access the data from both systems use NTFS, do not use NTFS / or /usr or other core unix folders
[00:17] <Cube``> Zburatorul: thanks!
[00:17] <reedyseth> matt444: I have the same problem
[00:17] <escott> ChronicSyncope, hmmm googling for what to do
[00:18] <zvacet> Soothsayer: will windows read data
[00:18] <brewster> hey im having this here problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394214 but i don't want to rename /usr/local because there are important files in that directory. can anyone help?
[00:18] <ChronicSyncope> escott, i've been doing some googling too. it looks like it might be a kernel bug?
[00:18] <chelz> rich542: close enough. unetbootin will work with that fine
[00:18] <Soothsayer> zvacet: ye, I want just 'one' of the partitions shared between ubuntu and windows 7... and the rest will be exclusive to each of the OS.
[00:18] <zvacet> Soothsayer: ntfs then
[00:19] <triggerhappy> hey
[00:19] <Nzaw4> hrmm with my ubuntu setup, can i do like a nand backup with all my setting and programs backuped, then move that nand backup to an external and reinstall windows 7? and when i want to go back to my ubuntu, restore the nand backup?
[00:19] <Cube``> hey, i have lost my /etc/init.d/mysql. how can i get it back?
[00:19] <escott> ChronicSyncope, doubtful people would notice a bug like that :) most likely these rtorrents are doing something like creating a big file or waiting on a socket that is taking the kernel a long time to return
[00:19] <Soothsayer> escott: ok. Is the mounting of /usr done during the installation or after it? Cause I don't recall a screen during setup that helps u configure all this.. or is the advanced options option where you can pick the drive in the beginning itself?
[00:19] <Soothsayer> zvacet: probably, I will have to mix between the two
[00:20] <Soothsayer> ?
[00:20] <escott> Cube``, recommend you install etckeeper for the future. try forcing a reinstall of mysql
[00:21] <Soothsayer> or how about this -> I create two ext3 partitions - one for the Ubuntu OS + one for the /usr directory. Everything else NTFS ?
[00:21] <reedyseth> #ubuntu-es
[00:21] <escott> Soothsayer, click on the manage my partitions during the install and you cna create and specify the mount points
[00:21] <happyface> why are VNC connections to ubuntu not encrypted by default?
[00:21] <Cube``> escott: whats the package name though? there is no "mysql"
[00:22] <kdgrng> nick
[00:22] <escott> Cube``, mysql-server? use synaptic
[00:22] <phil42> 6.2 quake in indonesia
[00:22] <Cube``> ok
[00:23] <Soothsayer> escott: I see. I believe the /home mount point should be on a data partition?
[00:23] <jord> erUSUL:  Fixed it. I read somewhere that newer network cards have a "digital tuner" (whatever that means) and if you turn the computer off completely and leave for 10 mins it will reset. I did that and now it's working!
[00:23] <Kijutsu> Okay... so I installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS on PPC.. what the heck is this virbr0 ethernet interface I see under ifconfig?
[00:23] <escott> Soothsayer, yes /home on your data drive is normal
[00:24] <hyndra> any one here
[00:24] <hyndra> kubuntu is off
[00:24] <Soothsayer> escott: where do stuff like MySQL database files get stored?
[00:24] <kdgrng> help
[00:24] <Soothsayer> /var/lib/mysql right?
[00:24] <escott> Soothsayer, yes /var
[00:24] <hyndra> i install vmware  qemu or virtualbox  but they dont start
[00:25] <Soothsayer> escott: so then this should also be on another partition?
[00:25] <ChronicSyncope> escott, i think it's a kernel bug, i just restarted.
[00:25] <hyndra> run but cant create vm  why ____???
[00:25] <Soothsayer> cause it's data
[00:25] <erUSUL> !yay | jord
[00:25] <escott> Kijutsu, he virtual network (virbr0) used for Network address translation (NAT) which allows guests to access to network services. However, NAT slows down things and only recommended for desktop installations. google
[00:26] <Kijutsu> escott: I did... however, I can't find how to make it go away.  I have several servers installed on this and it's just mucking things up.
[00:26] <brewster> :[
[00:26] <escott> Soothsayer, the having lots of partitions approach is becoming less traditional but feel free to split partitions basically as much as you want, you have to have a /bin and /etc on /
[00:26] <jord> ubottu: :)
[00:26] <Soothsayer> escott: ye, I don't want to have lots of partitions..
[00:26] <escott> Kijutsu, disable your KVM guests and it should go away
[00:26] <Soothsayer> I want to avoid that.
[00:27] <Kijutsu> escott: i have no virtual machines setup or running on this box
[00:27] <Soothsayer> escott: but say I put the Ubuntu OS one drive (Drive A) and the data on another (Drive B) which actually implies two partitions
[00:27] <josheee12> hey guys.  i use libpam-usb for authing my login, etc.  how would i go about enabling the same thing for my keyring?
[00:27] <brewster> can someone please help
[00:27] <Soothsayer> so Drive B = /user  + /var
[00:27] <Soothsayer> Drive A = everything else
[00:27] <escott> Soothsayer, why don't you step back and prioritize between a) an easy way to fall back to plain windows, b) backups, c) performance
[00:28] <escott> Kijutsu, is your machine a VM on the server
[00:28] <Kijutsu> escott: nope.. it's a standalone Mac tower.
[00:28] <edbian> brewster: What is your problem?
[00:28] <brewster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394214
[00:28] <brewster> i need to know what files are safe to move back to /usr/local
[00:29] <escott> Kijutsu, weird and this is a standard ubuntu install?
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: 10.04 lts PPC server
[00:29] <escott> Kijutsu, did you want the server or desktop
[00:29] <Soothsayer> escott: well... tough call. I'd say a balance of each :-P But ye, I'd compromise on performance if I had to pick.. I got a quadcore with 4 gb anyway, so it's fast enough.
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: server -- O
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: I'm using it to serve a drupal website.
[00:29] <edbian> brewster: ?  This thread has nothing to do with that.  What files did you move out of /usr/local/  What is in there right now?
[00:30] <escott> Kijutsu, and how is this device messing things up
[00:30] <escott> Kijutsu, see if there is a libvirtd service and disable uninstall is
[00:30] <Kijutsu> escott: everything is trying to get mapped automatically to the virbr0 interface IP instead of the static IP i set on eth0
[00:31] <brewster> i renamed it to fix the problem that was preventing me from going into computer or removable media or trash
[00:31] <mister2> hey, all the shortcuts under 'Places' are broken and the folders are missing from ~/, is this a known bug?
[00:31] <brewster> sdl is in there
[00:31] <Soothsayer> escott: so Drive B = /user  + /var   and  Drive A = everything else  ?
[00:31] <brewster> a couple of games are in there
[00:31] <escott> Soothsayer, and how full are your disks?
[00:31] <doncams> hi. i have a dir where i want all dir to be chmod to 755 and all files to be chmod to 644
[00:32] <doncams> what's the easiest way to do this?
[00:32] <brewster> as well as some important looking libraries
[00:32] <escott> Soothsayer, do you have 1+ TB of data or 500G of data
[00:32] <Soothsayer> escott: I've got like 150 GB / 500 GB remaining in my old disk.. the 1 tb one is empty cause it will reach my door step tomorrow.
[00:32] <Kijutsu> escott: there is a service udner /etc/init.d -- but when i issue service libvirtd stop -- it returns unrecognized service
[00:33] <Soothsayer> escott:  Assume I have a total of 350 GB data so far
[00:34] <brewster> :/
[00:35] <escott> Soothsayer, if I were you then I would have something like this: sda1 Windows c: sda2, sdb1 ubuntu raid1 / (50gb is plenty), sda3,sdb2 raid1 ext4 (to fill sda); sdb3 NTFS win d: for the rest of the disk
[00:37] <mimmo> ciao
[00:37] <escott> Kijutsu, there must be a kernel module, you could try removing it/removing the service from boot time and then rebooting
[00:38] <Soothsayer> escott: ok, makes sense... so you've RAIDED all the Ubuntu data drives + the Ubuntu OS drive using remaining space from the SDA ?
[00:39] <escott> Soothsayer, yes but I've never trusted drives since a pair of DeathStars went down within 2 months of each other
[00:39] <escott> Soothsayer, and I don't know how to do windows raid
[00:39] <Soothsayer> escott: no, windows raid not important..
[00:40] <escott> Soothsayer, in fact you dont even have to split the linux partition if you dont want to
[00:40] <Soothsayer> escott: I understood this. But just one thing, so where does the mysql database file go? sdb2 (with mirror in sda3) ?
[00:40] <andril> hello all
[00:40] <andril> anyone know how to install the latest Vuze?
[00:40] <KabukiOrigin> Can anyone on channel suggest a web admin package for a home server?  I used to use Webmin, but it's getting older and still not in the repos (which helps with updates).
[00:40] <escott> Soothsayer, where to put /var is back into the whole performance thing
[00:40] <thien> what's the difference between install a software via .deb fiile and via ubuntu software center?
[00:41] <Soothsayer> escott: well it's about space more, ain't it? What if my MySQL database was more than 100 gb ?
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> I'm looking for web admin of samba shares, primarily, plus basic status & package management.
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> escott: a .deb can come from anywhere (via download).
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> whups: thien: a .deb can come from anywhere (via download).
[00:42] <KabukiOrigin> thien: the software center is more automatic, and you can often find repos for non-mainstream packages (like tor, for example).
[00:42] <thien> if i install via a .deb, is it autoupdatable?
[00:42] <escott> Soothsayer, so you are concerned about a possible future where your mysql database is really big and you need to migrate it to another drive
[00:43] <KabukiOrigin> thien: Depends on what's installed.  For example Sun's virtualbox is, but it adds its own repos to your sources.list.  Other apps may have their own update path internal to the program.
[00:43] <Soothsayer> escott: well it's not a possible future.. its quite immediate cause I'm setting this up to act as a testing / simulation server of an actual production database of a web app..
[00:44] <Soothsayer> so yes, i'll be filling the database with 100 gb of space
[00:44] <Soothsayer> data*
[00:44] <KabukiOrigin> thien: Many times it's not going to autoupdate, which is a big advantage for the repos.
[00:44] <ruser> How can I convert old Windows innotek virtualbox vbox/vdk files for use with Sun/s Virtualbox for linux
[00:44] <ruser> they both have different keys
[00:44] <ruser> Would I have to write my own converter
[00:45] <KabukiOrigin> ruser: Is there an export function or a way to get it into an .OVF format?  That might help.
[00:45] <escott> Soothsayer, then having a partition for /var would be nice because you could manage it by itself, I would definitely recommend using linux md even if you only have a single disk, it would help migration because you can configure raid1 degraded and then add a disk to the array, and then remove the old device
[00:46] <ruser> ok
[00:46] <ruser> maybe
[00:46] <ruser> Waht is OVF format for VirtualBox
[00:46] <thien> KabukiOrigin: thanks
[00:46] <ruser> I could probably fool around and write one in C but I wondered if there was an easier way
[00:47] <Soothsayer> escott: ok, ill read up on that.. I have no clue about how to setup RAID or use linux md.. but I get the basic picture.
[00:48] <Soothsayer> escott: only one mount point can be selected for one directory right?
[00:48] <escott> Soothsayer, its fairly easy i think there is a wiki page somewhere
[00:48] <Soothsayer> cool, i'll find it :)
[00:48] <KabukiOrigin> thien: You're welcome.  In general I prefer to find a repo to keep my package management simpler, but sometimes you just have to grab the .deb (grin)
[00:49] <Soothsayer> I guess I'll need at least 5 hours to do all of this with setting up apache, php, mysql, etc.. got to make some free time I guess then
[00:49] <MK``> When 11.04 comes out, will I be able to upgrade to the newest kernel without updating Ubuntu?
[00:49] <escott> Soothsayer, yes one mount point per directory (except for some truly exotic stuff not relevant to you)
[00:50] <Soothsayer> escott: ok thanks :)
[00:50] <Soothsayer> a lot.
[00:51] <thien> when i install openoffice via U soft Center, it says: Package dependencies cannot be resolved. what do i have to do ?
[00:52] <Yoshimi> Anyone have any suggestions for a UPnP/DLNA compliant media server that is easy enough for someone without any technical know how to use, but still has features that are tweakable to an advanced user?
[00:52] <Yoshimi> thien: Could you use Libre Office instead?
[00:52] <Soothsayer> by the way, this desktop has a Wireless network card ( D-Link Wireless DWA-510 ). Any idea if this would work out-of-the box with ubuntu 10.10?
[00:52] <thien> Yoshimi: which is better?
[00:53] <Soothsayer> thien: ye, just install libreoffice
[00:53] <Soothsayer> libreoffice in my opinion.
[00:53] <smw> Yoshimi, what are you using it for? PS3 media server was perfect for my ps3
[00:53] <Soothsayer> Just moved to it 2 days ago.. and I believe Ubuntu 11 is going to replace openoffice with libreoffice.
[00:53] <escott> thien, Soothsayer the Oracle purchase of Sun has caused some name changes OpenOffice -> LibreOffice MySQL->MariaDB (although the mysql one is less decided Oracle is still hot and cold on mysql)
[00:53] <MK``> Yes, it is
[00:53] <Yoshimi> 360 and original Xbox with XBMC
[00:54] <smw> Yoshimi, I have also used mediatomb (which I dropped because ps3 media server had automatic transcoding)
[00:54] <Yoshimi> But I tried PMS and it was so... meh...
[00:54] <Soothsayer> escott: MariaDB? :-| never heard of that.
[00:54] <Yoshimi> Right now I'm using TVersity on an M$ box
[00:54] <Yoshimi> But I hate it
[00:54] <smw> Soothsayer, MariaDB is a fork of MySQL that is made by the original author
[00:54] <mfilipe> is there any sensor applet to unity?
[00:54] <sparrW> I seem to be stuck with Gnash as my flash player in Firefox on Ubuntu 10.10, even though I have adobe-flashplugin installed. Help?
[00:54] <MK``> Oracle stopped commercial development of OpenOffice.org because of so many developers jumping ship to LibreOffice
[00:54] <escott> Soothsayer, yeah just be aware that the future of mysql is up in the air, oracle is being weird
[00:54] <Soothsayer> smw: ye, I'm reading it now.. hmm..
[00:55] <thien> ok. i'll use libre. but when i install a software via U soft center, if it says "Package dependencies cannot be resolved", what do i have to do?
[00:55] <Soothsayer> escott: ye, I've read some articles about that online.. why did oracle buy mysql !
[00:55] <Yoshimi> Install the dependencies :p
[00:55] <smw> Soothsayer, the developer sold mysql for $1 Billion and then forked it when Oracle got it.
[00:55] <aeMaeth> I reinstalled ubuntu 10.10, did not delete my /home/ , but now i'm having trouble with my gpg keys, i get "gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session"
[00:55] <Soothsayer> SUN rather
[00:56] <smw> Soothsayer, no, he forked it when Oracle obtained it from Sun
[00:56] <thien> but don't know what to install. it doesn't say.
[00:56] <Soothsayer> smw: Wow.
[00:56] <escott> thien, that shouldn't happen to you, if it does it usually because you have an older package that is not supported anymore (like openoffice)
[00:56] <smw> Soothsayer, just like the OO.o people forked when sun was sold
[00:56] <Soothsayer> What could be the worse possible thing that could happen to MySQL ?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> aeMaeth: try chowning your home folder to your user in a root recovery mode
[00:57] <escott> Soothsayer, I don't think you will have problems if you install mysql, you just may have to go through a name change in the future if Oracle jumps ship and takes the name with it
[00:57] <spirals> any ffmpeg wizards handy?
[00:58] <smw> Soothsayer, MySQL could go unmaintained for years or Oracle could make proprietary plugins or stop accepting new features from outsiders.
[00:58] <mfilipe> is there any sensor applet to unity? is project hamster support unity?
[00:58] <xtr3m3> hi, is it true you cannot change the default port for vino?
[00:58] <Soothsayer> smw: ye, true. Especially MySQL is something that needs a lot of catching up and features to do.
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, Jenkins (formerly hudson) also changed names with Oracle obtained it.
[00:59] <ventas5> hi
[00:59] <Soothsayer> MariaDB is such a gay name!
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, all these projects fear Oracle for a reason ;-)
[00:59] <MK``> haha I was just going to post that smw. Perhaps this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic however
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: for which release?
[00:59] <jpastore> how do you get your second video card to work?
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, it is the name of the developers other daughter...
[00:59] <ryan> Hello everyone
[01:00] <jpastore> hello ryan
[01:00] <smw> Soothsayer, I would not say that to Monty's face ;-)
[01:00] <xtr3m3> hi ryan
[01:00] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip: 11beta2
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: then your release is offtopic here
[01:00] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip: my distro is up-to-date
[01:00] <Soothsayer> smw: hehe
[01:00] <Soothsayer> Anyone predicts driver issues with D-Link Wireless Network card in Ubuntu 10.10?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: your OS is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[01:01] <ryan> Is this a good place to ask a couple of general questions?
[01:01] <escott> spirals whats the question
[01:01] <mfilipe> undersante
[01:01] <mfilipe> understood*
[01:01] <mfilipe> hehe
[01:01] <mfilipe> thanks
[01:01] <thien> thanks everyone. bb.
[01:01] <Soothsayer> ok I'm off now.
[01:01] <tanz> hello
[01:01] <aeon-ltd> ryan: ubuntu related, yes if not go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <Soothsayer> Cheers!
[01:01] <jpastore> Soothsayer, why not try a live cd?
[01:02] <Soothsayer> jpastore: ye just thought of that actually
[01:02] <Soothsayer> I'll try it tomorrow
[01:02] <tanz> hey dose any one here run BackTrack?
[01:02] <Soothsayer> Thanks escott :)
[01:02] <escott> ryan, yes
[01:02] <jpastore> Soothsayer, night then
[01:02] <tanz> dose any one run blacktrack here?
[01:02] <ryan> I have a couple of questions about general application installation. I have downloaded a couple programs which all work fine (eclipse, firefox) but they don't show up in the "Applications". Its like I just unzipped them and ran the app but it never got registered with Ubuntu
[01:02] <rww> tanz: Backtrack is offtopic here, try #backtrack-linux
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> tanz: backtrack is offtopic and unsupported here
[01:04] <tanz> #backtrack-linux
[01:04] <escott> ryan, if you install through the standard mechanisms apt-get software center synaptic you will get menu items, otherwise use the menu editor to manually create entries
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> ryan: eclipse and firefox are in the repos
[01:04] <botcity> MK``, did you fix your disk problem?
[01:05] <MK``> botcity: no, gave up for now
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> ryan: if you want to keep what you have you can run:  alacarte   and add launcher to the menu as you wish,
[01:05] <ryan> @ActionParsnip well I installed a mod of eclipse called Aptana
[01:05] <Cube``> why do i always get 403-Forbidden errors for every php file inside of /var/www?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan: however, the apps will not get updated with the rest of your OS as you have sidestepped the packaging system
[01:06] <spirals> escott: I want to combine a jpeg and an mp3. I have done a bunch of searching and checked the intimidating help for ffmpeg and still don't have a working 1 liner for that task.
[01:06] <spirals> escott, goal is YT uploads
[01:06] <ryan> @ActionParsnip Ahhh, how can I register it with the packaging system?
[01:06] <escott> spirals, ive done the jpeg before do you have a sequence of jpegs or a single one?
[01:06] <spirals> escott, just a single one (cover ;) )
[01:06] <Somelauw> Okay, I am using ubuntu 10.10 on 64 bit with awesome as windows manager and I am looking with vlc to a mkv file and for some reason it is using my cpu for about 80%.
[01:07] <escott> spirals, the first step then is to create an input file for the frames. calculate fps*length and do "for f in `seq 1 prod`; do echo "filename">>frames.txt"; done
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> ryan: you can't you need to install it with debs
[01:08] <Somelauw> So I have excellent hardware, very lightweight software and vlc wastes it by using cpu for a gpu task.
[01:08] <spirals> escott, ok I follow you so far, I had a equivalent function worked out
[01:09] <jpastore> so does anyone know how to enable s econd video card?
[01:10] <escott> spirals, and then it is something like ffmpeg -i @frames.txt -r fps -i audio.mp3 output.mp4
[01:11] <Somelauw> What is the best player to open .mkv files with? (So it actually uses my gpu?)
[01:11] <spirals> escott, thanks, i'll play with that
[01:11] <spirals> escott, appreciate it
[01:11] <Somelauw> Or what package do I need so my vlc will open it smarter.
[01:11] <Somelauw> ?
[01:11] <escott> spirals, mencoder (apt-get install mplayer) is a bit less finiky than ffmpeg
[01:12] <spirals> I'm not attached to ffmpeg, just need a scriptable solution.
[01:12] <Internat> somelauw.. theres an option in vlc the advanced section of output
[01:12] <ryan> @ActionParsnip I hate to ask... what are debs (sniffle)
[01:13] <Internat> debs are .deb files.. there archives that have all the package info, config files, metafiles, man pages and so on.
[01:13] <Internat> when you run apt-get install <x> it gets the deb file for x
[01:14] <Somelauw> Internat: So is it dangerous to use gpu with vlc media player or why isn't it enabled by default?
[01:14] <ryan> so when I D/L something from the net ... like a .tar should I unzip it and then run that command on it?
[01:14] <Internat> not at all. just not everyone has hardware rendering available
[01:14] <Somelauw> It almost locks up my system when running it on cpu. I can't even move my move anymore.
[01:14] <Internat> ryan: no you should be using apt-get install <package> to install what you want.
[01:15] <arand> ryan: .deb is a binary .tar.gz is source, as a general rule..
[01:15] <spirals> escott, so your frames.txt is a file with 1 line for each frame where each line is the filename of the frame, correct
[01:15] <Somelauw> Internat: So why doesn't vlc check if hardware rendering is available?
[01:15] <Internat> you can ask the vlc developers that :)
[01:15] <synackfin> when I log in, I see "Welcome to Ubuntu" multiple times (3x)
[01:15] <ryan> well how do I know the names of the packages I want to install? So it looks like I have the source code versions of the programmings I downloaded
[01:15] <arand> ryan: Or rather .deb is a collection of binaries and other final-product items
[01:16] <synackfin> anyone know how to fix it? (or which file is read when I log in?)
[01:16] <escott> spirals, i believe so (never done it that way but I saw someone suggest that)
[01:16] <synackfin> I did "grep -r Welcome /etc" but didn't find any file
[01:16] <apn> synackfin, /etc/motd maybe?
[01:16] <smw> ryan, what are you trying to do?
[01:16] <rolandixor> Matr|x what exactly is happening when you try to connect?
[01:17] <spirals> escott, ahh, just trying to work out the input file you're using in the ffmpeg command
[01:17] <escott> spirals, unless I am confusing with mencoder (which is entirely possible) you could try just doing ffmpeg -i image.jpeg -i audio.mp3
[01:17] <spirals> escott, when I do that I get a 1 frame video that's very short.
[01:17] <escott> spirals, i know that ffmpeg -i image%04d.jpeg will work
[01:18] <smw> so, ryan, what specifically are you trying to install?
[01:18] <synackfin> apn: ah, thanks.  I ran grep on the wrong host!
[01:19] <spirals> escott, it defaults to a duration of .04 seconds though. this is where the documentation starts to fail hard. :/
[01:19] <escott> spirals, you could make a bunch of symlinks in a script
[01:19] <ryan> I'm just trying to install some general software I need
[01:19] <ryan> like an eclipse mod called aptana
[01:19] <lainy> how do i change the maverick login screen?
[01:19] <ryan> I got it running, but it doesn't register in the app's section since I didn't use the package manager
[01:19] <Somelauw> Thanks internat, it actually runs much smoother now. Unfortunately, I already watched it, so it will need to wait until my next mkv file.
[01:20] <Internat> :)
[01:20] <Internat> np.
[01:20] <smw> ryan, for eclipse mods, doesn't eclipse have its own package manager
[01:21] <thien> oops... when i install libreoffice via u soft center, it says Package dependencies cannot be resolved too
[01:21] <ryan> well smw, can you give a term or something I can search on to learn more about installing software and linux package management
[01:22] <ryan> I see the apt-install script commands, but I have no idea how to apply that to the software I need since I don't know the official names of it
[01:22] <smw> ryan, this is why we have the software center
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> thien: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[01:22] <smw> ryan, it is a gui to using apt get which is easier to search.
[01:23] <thien> ActionParsnip: Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> thien: ok can you use: http://pastebin.com and give the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[01:24] <ryan> thanks smw, but it doesn't have all the software I need
[01:24] <ryan> that is why I tried to download it from the net
[01:24] <smw> ryan, what you downloaded. Did it have a README or INSTALL file?
[01:25] <SubCool> that was quick
[01:25] <thien> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Vi79izpg
[01:25] <SubCool> AFKB - But- while im here. Can i Command prompt a downgrade from 10.10 to 10.04?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | SubCool
[01:26] <SubCool> Thanks ActionParsnip - i was hoping you would respond.
[01:26] <ryan> swm, nope sure didn't
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> thien: does: sudo apt-get -f install       help?
[01:26] <SubCool> so my best option would be a fresh install?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: its the only way
[01:27] <SubCool> k- thanks.
[01:27] <smw> ryan, can you give me a link to what you are installing?
[01:27] <SubCool> Ok- so then. Can anyone assist in Vmware WOrkstation for 10.10?
[01:28] <SubCool> actually- scratch that.. This computer is a single core- its not really worth it.
[01:28] <jessicaBR> hey, I just tried to install ubuntu maverick on my new laptop, and a msg shows up while booting: "thermal reporting for required devices..."
[01:28] <smw> ryan, btw, I meant the INSTALL/README file should be found in the compressed archive (tar file)
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: it'll run, just use a light DE :D
[01:28] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: Is there a backup action that ubottu can link me to?
[01:28] <ryan> http://www.aptana.com/products/studio2/download
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[01:29] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: well, i having an issue  with it, and vmware wont help because 10.10 isnt LTE
[01:29] <smw> !who > ryan
[01:29] <jessicaBR> jessicaBR, does anyone know if I should fix anything?
[01:29] <SubCool> awesome- thanks..
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: try virtualbox
[01:30] <smw> ryan, did you take a look at their site? http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_Aptana_on_Linux
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[01:30] <SubCool> whats with the garbage?
[01:31] <smw> ryan, if you have problems following that guide, feel free to ask questions
[01:31] <ryan> thanks smw, I did read that but it was over my head. I have no idea what it was talking about when it said ... "make sure you $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is pointing to your xulrunner 1.8 dir"
[01:32] <rcconf> Is there a way to make network-manager resetting spoofed mac address? i tried with macchanger. (and tried spoof option in NM too but it's not working with WPA)
[01:32] <ryan> also also the other packages that need to be installed such as compat-libstdc++
[01:32] <smw> ryan, damn, you are right, this is not very beginner friendly
[01:33] <smw> ryan, maybe this is easier. http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Plugging_Aptana_into_an_existing_Eclipse_configuration
[01:33] <rcconf> I want to stop networkmanager from resetting maccaddress :\
[01:34] <ryan> well i got that working that way, but i really feel like I'm just way in over my head. I really don't mind do the research and reading. but I just have no idea where to start. I have lots of other software I want to install
[01:34] <rick_> salut ya tu quelqun qyyui peu maider avec ubuntu jai un probleme avec les mise a jour\
[01:34] <rcconf> !fr | rick_
[01:34] <ryan> so it does work, but I just went right around the package manager, so I would love to figure out hwo to do this stuff the right way
[01:34] <smw> ryan, the reason you feel that way is because the instructions were made for developers and not people :-\
[01:34] <smw> ryan, that is the right way.
[01:35] <ryan> hahaha funny, because I do web development so I could handle the jargon if it was on a windows enviro
[01:35] <smw> ryan, installing as an eclipse plugin is probably the best way.
[01:35] <ryan> gotcha, well I'll do that, thanks for the help. could you give me a link or something that might help me learn more on this stuff??
[01:35] <smw> ryan, the way they explained was much more hackish than the eclipse plugin.
[01:36] <smw> ryan, depends on what stuff you are referring to. None of this had to do with the package manager
[01:36] <smw> ryan, before you were asking a general question and getting a general response. the package manager was NOT the right way to handle this.
[01:36] <ryan> LOL so I'm just lucky, i was going to try and install some VMWare to run some windows programs next
[01:37] <thien> when i install libre office, at command: sudo dpkg -i *.deb, terminal says: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! what to do?
[01:37] <smw> thien, install java?
[01:37] <smw> !java | thien
[01:37] <thien> how to?
[01:37] <jpastore> what is a good channel to go to for some x11 help?
[01:37] <breeden> was told i would be given money for joining
[01:38] <breeden> ?
[01:38] <Crazymonkey1123> i want da money
[01:38] <breeden> Gimme money plez!
[01:38] <rcconf> !ot
[01:38] <smw> breeden, saying stuff like that is allowed on #ubuntu-ot
[01:38] <smw> breeden, saying stuff like that is allowed on #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:39] <Blackadder> need help anyone got an idea on how I may mirror mysql to Amazon Ubuntu cloud server?
[01:40] <darkvader> hi dudes
[01:40] <Dreki> whats the most powerful torrent client to use with ubuntu?
[01:40] <rcconf> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:40] <rcconf> Dreki: deluge maybe
[01:40] <smw> Dreki, what do you look for in a torrent client?
[01:40] <edbian> Dreki: I use transmission
[01:40] <rolandixor> i
[01:41] <rcconf> if u want something simple use transmission
[01:41] <ryan> thanks for the smw,  I really appreicate it. lata
[01:41] <Atomhunter> I use utorrent
[01:41] <darkvader> i have a problem, i'm trying to rip a dvd, i've tried 4 or 5 different programs but the results are the same, corruption
[01:41] <rcconf> Atomhunter: on wine? lol
[01:41] <smw> Blackadder, what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: define 'powerful'
[01:41] <Blackadder> backup mysql tables on the fly m8
[01:42] <Atomhunter> Opps.... Forgot I don't have torrent client in My ubuntu...
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> Dreki, i like rtorrent+screen, but I like command line ;)
[01:42] <Dreki> smw edbian rcconf i look for options, and something thats fast. doesnt have to be extreamly user friendly, but a gui is nice
[01:42] <smw> Blackadder, so, you want a read slave?
[01:42] <tiagoscd> the intrepid repository has removed? I can't find it in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[01:42] <edbian> Dreki: Then they're all equal
[01:42] <Blackadder> I built up a user management system from scratch + cron jobs I need to have it auto propagate
[01:42] <edbian> Dreki: I guess don't use rtorrent it doesn't have a gui
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: try transmission, its spiffy. It also has a web UI so you can control torrents remotely if you desire
[01:43] <rcconf> mac address spoofing and wpa bug http://markmail.org/message/5ary4cvzlirvro73
[01:43] <smw> Blackadder, I am not going to try to explain how to make a read slave because it is too difficult. Instead I am just going to tell you to google it :-).
[01:44] <Blackadder> lol
[01:44] <smw> Blackadder, also note that read slaves maybe a little bit behind the master.
[01:44] <Blackadder> I already did slave it what I am getting is a constant timeout
[01:44] <aj91193> hello
[01:45] <aj91193> i need some help with ubuntu
[01:45] <Blackadder> from the slave it keeps timing out
[01:45] <smw> Blackadder, not sure then. I use the amzn multi-az rds instance.
[01:45] <rcconf> !ask | aj91193
[01:45] <smw> Blackadder, it is not exactly what you are looking for though.
[01:46] <smw> Blackadder, you may want to try #mysql to see if anyone can help with the timeout problem
[01:46] <aj91193> i deleted my configuration files in ubuntu linux, and i cant get back on it. I tried to download it again and reboot it, but it keeps saying that there are no configuration files. Any ideas?
[01:47] <Blackadder> #mysql is Ubuntu help channels?
[01:47] <rcconf> im giving up
[01:47] <smw> Blackadder, no, it is the mysql help channel. You are right now on the freenode irc network
[01:47] <rcconf> aj91193: what configuration files?
[01:48] <Blackadder> kk I am new I just pull everyting from the forum
[01:48] <aj91193> i was trying some things in the terminal, and i saw a directory titled 'TMP'. it was highlighted, but i did not think i needed it, so i deleted it.
[01:49] <smw> Blackadder, you are right now on a chat server with help channels for almost anything you can  think of ;-)
[01:49] <Blackadder> q anyone having problems with webmin 1.54 with the latest Ubuntu 28.35 pae
[01:49] <rww> !webmin
[01:49] <MK``> aj91193: /tmp ?
[01:49] <rcconf> aj91193: you deleted /tmp/ ?
[01:49] <aj91193> yes
[01:49] <aj91193> call me stupid, but i didnt think i needed it
[01:49] <Blackadder> I had to reboot server in safe mode then drop root shell to have it restarted
[01:49] <rcconf> aj91193: boot from livecd, go to the / partition and mkdir tmp
[01:50] <MK``> ^ it's used as a general purpose temporary directory
[01:50] <SlickT10> anyone else having problems quiting programs using ctrl c in ubuntu 11.04?
[01:50] <MK``> it clears itself when you reboot, mostly
[01:50] <rww> SlickT10: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[01:50] <MK``> but it's needed by the OS
[01:50] <smw> aj91193, it looks to me like a reinstall is your best option
[01:50] <rcconf> aj91193: if you deleted /tmp/ just create it again lol
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> Blackadder, #debian's webmin factoid is even better << Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> See <free whcp> for alternatives. >>
[01:50] <SlickT10> rww: thanks
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, if you were experienced, it would be possible to fix it. But seeing as you got yourself into this position in the first place, reinstall is easier.
[01:51] <aj91193> i tried a reinstall, and it comes up with 'no Default or UI configuration directive found
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, when you boot an install cd?
[01:51] <aj91193> i used a usb download from the ubuntu site
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, are you sure it was booting off the usb drive?
[01:51] <Inumedia> Why does my Touchpad move my cursor faster in relation to my screen resolution aspect ratio?
[01:52] <aj91193> snw, originally,  or now?
[01:52] <Blackadder> Ooops its not as if I really need it but nice to have a graphic admin. Do u think I should remove webmin from my cluster
[01:52] <smw> aj91193, you are unable to do a complete reinstall of the system?
[01:53] <Blackadder> I had to rebuild one of my servers after I installed it just would NOT reboot
[01:53] <aj91193> as far as i can see, i am unable to do so. i downloaded the 64bit of 10.10 just now, and used the universal usb installer to set it up, but it doenst work
[01:54] <Blackadder> installed wembin worked nicely until I rebooted Ubuntu 10.10 32bit
[01:54] <Inumedia> Why do I not have /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:55] <Blackadder> then server never managed to even make it to safe mode
[01:55] <smw> !xorg.conf | Inumedia
[01:55] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, if you are using open source drivers, it's all done automajically now
[01:55] <Blackadder> running perfect thoug on other 3 server
[01:55] <smw> Inumedia, it figures out the system at boot. It does not need xorg.conf
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, it is of course possible to create one if needed
[01:56] <Blackadder> X server takes a lot out of the resources purged it. Best to have everything done SSH
[01:57] <rcconf> is there a way to make network-manager to stop resetting spoofed mac address?
[01:57] <rcconf> (i know it has a built in spoof option which doesnt work with wpa)
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> rcconf, (i don't know anything about spoofed macs) but have you considered using WICD instead of nm-applet?  something to consider.  Or you could set up your networks the manual way.  Best of luck.
[01:59] <fajar2408> hmm
[01:59] <aj91193> does anyone have a site with a full ubuntu reinstall iso?
[01:59] <Alsen> wow, many people..
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> aj91193, "reinstall iso" is that different from a regular LiveCD?
[02:00] <Darwon> what do you guys set your swappiness to ?
[02:00] <Cheez> Anyone have any idea why ports wouldnt open up?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> aj91193: the install CD is the reinstall ISO
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> Darwon: usually about 5
[02:00] <edbian> Cheez: you have a router / firewall
[02:01] <Cheez> I know
[02:01] <aj91193> i dont have a specific cd that came with it, i downloaded it off the internet, so i dont know
[02:01] <Cheez> They used to open fine... then they just stoped working
[02:01] <Axlin|MB> Darwon: 1 GB on my desktop with 4 GB of RAM, and 2 GB on my laptop with 2 GB of RAM. if you want to hibernate, you'll need swap to equal RAM
[02:01] <Cheez> The connection times out when i test them with canyouseeme.org
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Darwon: i only chat and web browse and have 2Gb ram in the systems I do it in so I have enough ram. swappiness will need evaluating on use
[02:01] <semitones> I'm trying to get two ubuntu computers on the same LAN to share files. Right now they both say they're sharing, but they both can't see the other's share. Any ideas?
[02:01] <Darwon> thank you ActionParsnip, I have mine at default on the 512 RAM, and 0 on the 4 Gig, and I will set it to 5 on the 2 Gig
[02:01] <edbian> Cheez: What do you mean?  Are we talking about a router or a firewall?
[02:01] <aj91193> i just want something that will totally reboot or re-put ubuntu back on my desktop
[02:01] <Cheez> Router
[02:02] <pehden> QUESTION: postfix , dovecot , spamassasin , with procmail, I had this all set up and I had an issue with something else so i had removed postfix , well before my email would come into folder /home/pehden/mail     now it keeps going to /var/mail/pehden what do i need to do to fix this back so i can use my webmail lite to check it
[02:02] <leapy0yo> hi
[02:02] <rcconf> ZykoticK9: yes, I've used wicd before and it works but it doesnt have VPN support etc
[02:02] <leapy0yo> i can do an add user, but how do I do a delete user?
[02:02] <smw> leapy0yo, userdel or use the gui
[02:02] <Cheez> I have ports opened for a server with a wired connection, and it works fine. But when i try to forward them with my laptop (wireless) they dont work,, and no one can connect to the server
[02:03] <pehden> Cheez is the server using a static IP
[02:03] <edbian> Cheez: Are you forwarding the port to the correct IP address?  (the IP of the laptop)
[02:03] <Darwon> Im getting my boxes ready for the 28th
[02:03] <xtbgod> >.<
[02:03] <Cheez> Yea its a dynamic ip. and i forwarded to the right internal IP. I know how to port forward and everything, but for some reason it just stopped working.
[02:03] <Kijutsu> Using ubuntu 10.04 -- do I need to do anything weird to partition a 4k sector hard drive?
[02:03] <bob_ooooo> #ubuntu_cn
[02:04] <semitones> they can't ping each other either
[02:04] <Blackadder> well I had some problems with ports. Check if u havenŌĆÖt got anything taking over your ports. change your app boot sqsequence
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: sudo rmuser username
[02:04] <aj91193> soo, any  ideas?
[02:04] <semitones> How can I make it so two computers can ping each other
[02:04] <edbian> Cheez: What service are you running on the laptop? Do you have a firewall running on it?
[02:04] <smw> ActionParsnip, why rmuser vs userdel?
[02:05] <Cheez> yes i do have a firewall, but it is unblocking the port
[02:05] <smw> ActionParsnip, command not found
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> smw: not sure, should do the same thing afaik
[02:05] <smw> ActionParsnip, I got a cmd not found
[02:05] <DShepherd> semitones, how are the two computer connected?
[02:05] <edbian> Cheez: For the sake of argument why don't you turn the firewall off on the laptop.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> smw: so it is, my bad
[02:05] <semitones> DShepherd, they are on the same LAN, sharing a router
[02:05] <Cheez> Ok... but i think this is something wrong with my router :/
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: if you add the -r switch, it will remove the users $HOME folder too :)
[02:06] <Cheez> Because the firewall has never caused me problems when port forwarding
[02:06] <DShepherd> semitones, is the router offering ipaddresses to the machines?
[02:06] <DShepherd> dhcp*
[02:06] <semitones> DShepherd, yes
[02:06] <edbian> Cheez: Well can you connect to your server (on the laptop) from another machine on the LAN ?
[02:06] <rcconf> how do i know if this network manager issue was fixed in naty?
[02:06] <rcconf> natty
[02:06] <Cheez> Yea i can
[02:06] <Cheez> wait
[02:06] <Blackadder> DHCP no good for server u must allocate a static IP on your lan m8
[02:06] <Cheez> yea using a direct url
[02:06] <DShepherd> semitones, do you know the ip address of each machine?
[02:07] <Blackadder> no wonder its blocking forwarded ports
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: ask in ~ubuntu+1
[02:07] <rcconf> k
[02:07] <bob_ooooo> how to use arpalert
[02:08] <semitones> DShepherd, yes
[02:08] <semitones> DShepherd, and they can ping the router
[02:08] <phoenixsampras> how to use launcpad packages?
[02:09] <Inumedia> !xorg.conf | Inumedia
[02:09] <Blackadder> anyone know an Ubuntu developers advanced channl thanx
[02:09] <DShepherd> semitones, hmm.. they are in the same subnet right? They should be if the router gave them the address
[02:09] <semitones> DShepherd, yea i think they are
[02:10] <Inumedia> ZykoticK9: I need it to be able to configure my touchpad
[02:10] <DShepherd> have you tried to do a trace route?
[02:10] <semitones> DShepherd, no, what's that?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: do you mean like a ppa?
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, i've never had to config a touchpad.  sorry, no suggestions.
[02:11] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: yeh
[02:11] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad.  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:11] <Cheez> any ideas?
[02:12] <DShepherd> semitones, you are using ubuntu right?
[02:12] <semitones> DShepherd, yes, both have ubuntu
[02:12] <Cheez> edbian: do you think there might be something wrong with my router? i just reinstalled the firmware, and it didnt fix it
[02:13] <DShepherd> semitones, tracepath [ip address] #that will give you an idea if its stuff is going past the router
[02:13] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: i want to upgrade my cacti install to the latest one
[02:13] <DShepherd> semitones, do you mind sharing the ip address and subnet mask of your setup?
[02:14] <semitones> DShepherd, well it reaches the other computer
[02:14] <semitones> sure, 192.168.1.7, and probably 255.255.255.0
[02:14] <semitones> or .255
[02:14] <DShepherd> semitones, does it work from the other side also?
[02:14] <aj91193> if anyone is still willing to help such a noob as me, when i try to log on my ubuntu it says "There is a prolem with the configuration server.(/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)"
[02:14] <semitones> DShepherd,
[02:14] <semitones> hold on
[02:15] <semitones> Now I can ping the other computer, trying the other one
[02:16] <Cheez> Noez D:
[02:16] <phoenixsampras> !ppa
[02:16] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:17] <semitones> DShepherd, cool they can ping each other now, i don't know what happened in the mean time
[02:17] <semitones> thanks
[02:17] <DShepherd> semitones, glad i could help. I didn't do anything though :) enjoy!
[02:17] <lucas_> I would like to start my desktop computer remotely using my laptop. Any suggestions on how this can be accomplished?
[02:18] <Cheez> Is it for sure that my router is broken if ports dont forward even after i updated my router firmware?
[02:18] <phoenixsampras> How do I use software from a PPA o Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[02:20] <Kijutsu> How do I partition a WD ADvanced format drive without breaking everything?
[02:21] <synackfin> if I have a large vector (length=20e6) of two numbers, 83 and 30 - how do I convert it to a vector where 83 maps to 1 and 30 maps to 2 ?
[02:22] <lucas_> Kijutsu: I have such a drive on my laptop. Seemed to have problems at first, but after formatting it using maverick's gparted all seemed ok. There are always the boot cd's provided from WD
[02:22] <Addalaide> i am new to using linux and i am haveing a problum with the left side panel can anyone help me?
[02:22] <pehden> !natty
[02:23] <trist> heys guys im back
[02:23] <lucas_> I would like to start my desktop computer remotely using my laptop. Any suggestions on how this can be accomplished?
[02:23] <aj91193> can any one help me?
[02:23] <trist> was abel to install using nomodeset
[02:23] <pehden> lucas_ http://teamviewer.com
[02:23] <pehden> wait nvm that
[02:24] <pehden> i thought you said connect
[02:24] <trist> and now have istalled nvidia driver but now im back to black screen again any ideas
[02:24] <pehden> you may be interested in wol
[02:24] <lucas_> pehden: I already connected successfully using vnc
[02:24] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:24] <synackfin> whoops, wrong chan
[02:24] <Kijutsu> lucas_: did gparted format it properly aligned?
[02:24] <pehden> lucas_ i missread your question you may want WOL
[02:25] <Addalaide> the icons on my left pannel dont show up correctly any ideas?
[02:25] <trist> ??
[02:26] <trist> can anyone help me
[02:27] <wizo> hi, i tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts however I still get redirected to my /var/www has anyone tried this and gotten it working? my host is on an external server
[02:27] <lucas_> Kijutsu: With Lucid it didn't, but with Maverick yes. When I create new partitions I always select "align to Mib and it works. Anyway if it is not correctly alligned you can feel the difference ;)
[02:28] <Acid190> trist: what's yur problem?
[02:28] <Kijutsu> lucas_: where did you find the align to Mib option?
[02:29] <trist> black screen at boot up so i used nomodeset now i have installed nvidia driver but still black screen at boot up
[02:29] <lucas_> in gparted, when you select to create a new partition... The Dialog box has it
[02:29] <Acid190> trist:so what were you doing just before you got a black screen, or have you never even had one?
[02:30] <XP1> how do i pad a file with "FF" using dd?
[02:30] <trist> no i always have black screen unless i set nomodeset in boot command
[02:30] <Acid190> trist:see, maybe im not sure what advice you have already been given, but nomodeset isn't something ive used
[02:31] <Acid190> trist:maybe you can tell me what you are trying to accomplish?
[02:31] <XP1> "dd if=inputFile.bin ibs=100k of=paddedFile.bin conv=sync" pads with null zeros, but I want FFs
[02:31] <zebastianortis> hi, i got a problem, my camera card wont let me erase files or delete them and i need to do that since the card is full, when i try to do this even after typing sudo nautilus on the terminal it says read only system, how do i change this? thx
[02:31] <wizo> does the doc site only work for local hosts?
[02:31] <Tempus_Fugit> why is it that once you unmount the sdcard reader that it wont read another until you reboot....how do I make it manually look for another sdcard thats been inserted??
[02:31] <trist> i was using it to get ubuntu installed and so i could load tthe graphics driver but it still black screens
[02:32] <Acid190> zebastianortis: is there a force option?
[02:32] <Kijutsu> lucas_: did you get a blank 32k partition at the beginning of your drive?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> trist: what video chip?
[02:32] <zebastianortis> how do you mean Acid190?
[02:32] <trist> gforce g210
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> trist: add the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1
[02:33] <Tempus_Fugit> how do you mount an sdcard manually
[02:33] <wizo> a less of sites-enabled/mysite shows that document root is at /home/user/public_html =/
[02:33] <lucas_> Kijitsu: nope... I just created a new partition table from scratch (under Device-Create partition table)
[02:34] <trist> thanks di i replace nouveau.blacklist=1 with the quite splash
[02:34] <lucas_> Kijitsu: But I don't know if this is a new way of WD of doing things. When did you get that drive?
[02:34] <phoenixsampras> How do I use software from a PPA on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[02:34] <Kijutsu> lucas_: yesterday
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> trist: yes
[02:34] <zebastianortis> i dont get why my camera card is locked
[02:35] <zebastianortis> how do i unlock it, when i try to delete stuff it says read only system, i dont remember this from before
[02:35] <Kijutsu> lucas_: to be 100% honest, I bought two 2tbs.. I don't even know if my boot drive is properly partitioned or not.
[02:35] <trist> thanks ill try no
[02:35] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:35] <XP1> is it possible to pad a file with another file using dd?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: what make / model is the laptop?
[02:36] <Inumedia> Toshiba Satelite L305d-S5928
[02:36] <leapy0yo> i installed sabnzbd but I cannot login to the website unless I use 127.0.0.1 instead of the internet ip
[02:36] <Addalaide> the icons on my left side panel arnt showing up correctly can anyone help?
[02:36] <Inumedia> It uses a synaptic touchpad which is recognized correctly.
[02:37] <lucas_> Kijitsu: I got it a year ago. Advanced Formatting was in his early stages. Anyway... Another thing you could do is to boot your comp using windows 7 DVD. At the setup you can ask to format the drives. WD says that win7 doesn't need any stuff like aligning utilities
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try turning off tap to click, may help
[02:38] <Inumedia> But what does that have to do with the cursor movement?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: also can you pastebin the output of:  lsmod
[02:38] <Kijutsu> lucas_: Love to... 'cept its running on a PPC, and I don't have any PCs that will boot Windows 7 properly because of anceitny hardware
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> hello all, is there any winamp ver. for ubuntu?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: it may affect it, its a quick thing to test
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> !winamp | yuskhanzab
[02:38] <Inumedia> k, one second
[02:38] <Inumedia> Doesn't seem to effect it
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> audacious
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> yeah thanks
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: ok cool, can you run: lsmod    and give the output
[02:39] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/uSRfatT7
[02:39] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to add app on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[02:39] <lucas_> Kijutsu: oups... Then I would go with a live cd from Natty Beta2. Or just wait 'till 28th when the official release comes out. From the live cd you can use gparted
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: how do you mean?
[02:40] <yuskhanzab> ubottu, is there skin so that i can change looks like the winamp in windows?
[02:40] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: i want to use the lastest pack of cacti on my ubuntu, from launchpad
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try:   options psmouse proto=imps    or     options psmouse proto=bare       in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: then add the ppa
[02:41] <Inumedia> One second.
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you can then run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[02:41] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cacti
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try them individually :)
[02:42] <Inumedia> I'm not finding psmouse.conf
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: which release are you using?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you won't you make the file
[02:42] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: 10.04 ubuntuserver
[02:42] <Inumedia> Okay, one second.
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: those files add extra options to the modules when you load them
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: some weird hardware needs extra options to work nice
[02:44] <Inumedia> Hold on
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: the version listed there is the one in the lucid repos
[02:44] <Inumedia> Should I restart anything upon creating+editing psmouse.conf?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[02:45] <Inumedia> My touchpad doesn't work anymore D;
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: if it doesn't work, re-edit the file and retry the other option I gave (delete the old text first)
[02:47] <Inumedia> Touchpad still not working
[02:47] <Teeko> hi
[02:47] <Inumedia> Oh wait
[02:47] <Inumedia> It works now
[02:47] <Teeko> anyone not busy wanna lend me a hand? :P
[02:47] <Inumedia> And seems to be at the correct aspect ratio? =o
[02:48] <Inumedia> Seems to be slow as shit too, but it's at the same aspect ratio now
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: so the option you used was necessary for your hadware
[02:48] <Inumedia> But now touchpad is gone from Mouse Preferences and it's really slow
[02:48] <Teeko> hm i keep getting an error when trying to install ubuntu alongside windows
[02:48] <Teeko> there a problem with it in win7 on AMD or something?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: look for other options you can add to the module, one may make it nice
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you may also be able to simply increase the mouse speed in the mouse settings to make up for the slowness
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: how did you kick off the install?
[02:49] <Teeko> the wubi.exe file
[02:49] <gaelfx> I'm trying to buy a USB3.0 card, but I'm not sure if it needs to have a power connector to function fully or not. My options are a card that has a power connector and one that doesn't, which one should I get?
[02:49] <Teeko> it didnt autorun :/
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: ok what issue are you having?
[02:50] <Teeko> just says it has an error and it wrote it to a .log file, i looked at the file, but tbh its all greek to me.
[02:50] <lxd> hello
[02:50] <Teeko> when installing, it just stops and doesnt install, says it has an error and wrote to the .log file
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: if you use win7 to resize its own partition and install ubuntu to the free space you will have fewer issues
[02:51] <Teeko> i just wanna test it out tbh
[02:51] <Teeko> i havent used ubuntu in a looong time
[02:51]  * KM0201 agrees w/ ActionParsnip if you've got WIn 7 or Vista, use it to partition the drive.
[02:51] <Teeko> prolly gonna install it on my other computer but wanted to test it
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then you could download the install ISO, MD5 test it and use a virtual system in virtualbox for example
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> I just backed up 896GB of files from a ext4 filesystem to a NTFS filesystem   and the  output of df -h, reports 1 GB differance. Is that due to rounding/blocksize/filesystem differances most likely?
[02:51] <wizo> can someone help me debug why my document root doesnt seem to work after following the docs here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts
[02:51] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: Do you have a list of options for psmouse?
[02:52] <Teeko> i have the instal ISO, and put it on a disc. thats what im running this from
[02:52] <Inumedia> I need to increase the sensitivity substantially :P
[02:52] <KM0201> Teeko, so whatrs the problem?
[02:52] <Inumedia> And get my scrolling back
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: i just websearched and found those, the proto=imps one is good for sony viaos I have noticed
[02:52] <Teeko> ok one sec lemme make it do it again :P
[02:52] <Inumedia> It seems to work with both imps and bare
[02:53] <Teeko> ok ran the wubi.exe file from the install CD
[02:53] <Teeko> create username/password
[02:53] <Teeko> it starts extracting
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[02:54] <Teeko> MD5 test?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Teeko
[02:54] <SpyvsSpy> hi where do usb thumbdrives mount to in ubuntu?
[02:54] <SpyvsSpy> is it /media/usb?
[02:54] <Teeko> its on a DVD fresh iso created and burned to it
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> SpyvsSpy: run:  mount   it will tel you
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: doesn't matter, did you test the ISO?
[02:55] <SpyvsSpy> im away from my ubuntu box
[02:55] <Teeko> no i didnt test, lemme read that page and test it.
[02:55] <SpyvsSpy> and Im writing a script, and I cant remeber where it mounts
[02:55] <manekineko_> I've got an ext2 loop image file, and I want to use it to recreate a partition without any permissions or other strange problems, what's the easiest way I could do so?
[02:55] <chr0n0> been a while since I was in, but I have always liked the name ActionParsnip  lol
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then you have no way of knowing if the data you are using is complete or error free
[02:56] <manekineko_> if I just mount the file, and copy using nautilus are there any foreseeable problems?
[02:56] <Aamir> common/packet.cc:44: error: conflicting declaration ŌĆśchar** p_info::name_ŌĆÖ
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  you want to copy all files from the loop image, to a real filesystem/drive. the cp command with proper arguments can do that.
[02:57] <Aamir> i am getting these errors while installing mac 802.16 in ns2
[02:57] <Aamir> common/packet.cc:44: error: conflicting declaration ŌĆśchar** p_info::name_ŌĆÖ
[02:57] <manekineko_> Dr_Willis: so if I do a recursive cp as root, are there any foreseeable problems with permissions or anything?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  mount it via mount  with the loop option. (sounds like you did that) then use sudo cp  with the proper arguments. I cant recall what ones to use. or use tar and the proper arguments to copy the files.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  you need more then just 'cp' i recall.
[02:58] <trist> hey guys im back work perfectly
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  theres a 'keep permissions/owner' option
[02:58] <trist> thanks now all i need to do is get y wifi working
[02:58] <manekineko_> oh interesting, I'll look at the man page for cp
[02:58] <Teeko> ok i did the md5 test
[02:58] <Teeko> says checksums are different
[02:58] <tjiggi_fo> SpyvsSpy, I'm on 10.04 and mine mounts to /media/name_of_USB
[02:58] <KM0201> Teeko, also, stop messing w/ Wubi.. if you want to install Linux, partition your drive and do it right.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  i recall tar also being used for this.
[02:58] <chr0n0> i got a simple question here, or so I would imagine...I was the only user on my box til recently, and I went to add a user.  When I log in, all of my drives are mounted, or at least available to be mounted from the places menu.  When the new user logs in, only two of the 4 mounts are available to her.  The drive partition in question is ntfs.  Is this just super easy?  I don't know if I am wording it very well for google.  :)
[02:59] <Teeko> im not installing on this computer, just wanna get a feel for it before i install it on my other computer
[02:59] <SpyvsSpy> thanks
[02:59] <hiexpo> nvidia did a spectacular job on the new driver  amazing
[02:59] <KM0201> Teeko, so boot the live CD.. thats what tis for.
[02:59] <RandomUser128> hiexpo, you must be joking!? their drivers are always awful...
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then the image you used is bad
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: you need to redownload and re-test
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> chr0n0:  the ntfs-config tool can set up ntfs filesystems where all users can access them fully.  but last i used the tool it was a little flakey. it would work.but crash on exit)
[02:59] <Teeko> i run a teamspeak server and a website from that computer and i wanted to just see how ubuntu is nowadays before i install it on there
[03:00] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: Do you know where I can find some information on /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf?
[03:00] <Teeko> thanks action. lemme see how that works
[03:00] <KM0201> Teeko, but beyond that, if the md5's don't match, the ISO is bad, download again... but se.rious.. don't do wubi
[03:00] <trist> i have an 802.11 wirless lan card by railink anyone help me with drivers
[03:00] <hiexpo> RandomUser128, no i am not i was in shock also  and it is fast
[03:00] <KM0201> Teeko, ok.. u've been warned
[03:00] <Inumedia> Or would that not be the correct area to fix my verticle/horizontal scroll + readding it to the mouse preferences
[03:00] <Teeko> lol
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: it's not the filename you need to worry about. You can call it ANYTHING you want, as long as it ends in .conf
[03:00] <Teeko> i dont plan on using ubunto on this comp for long
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: look for options on the psmouse module
[03:00] <Teeko> just for the other comp permanently
[03:00]  * KM0201 sits on hands.. won't waste the energy..
[03:01] <chr0n0> Dr_Willis: I just got an application called  Storage Device Manager, is it anything like that?
[03:01] <Inumedia> Okay thanks.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: you need to redownload the image, I suggest you use torrents
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> chr0n0:  ntfs-config is not installed byt default i recall
[03:01] <RandomUser128> I made the switch to ubuntu a few months back, and I haven't looked back since Teeko
[03:01] <Teeko> otherwise i would just install it in a new partition and get rid of windows
[03:01] <RandomUser128> you gotta give it a chance :)
[03:01] <Teeko> yeah but linux cant run the like only game i play online
[03:01] <KM0201> Teeko, thats a recipe for disaster..
[03:01] <Teeko> i play one game, and it cant run it.
[03:01] <KM0201> (nuking windows right fof the bat)
[03:02] <trist> i have an 802.11 wirless lan card by railink anyone help me with drivers
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> trist: what chip does it use?
[03:02] <trist> no idea how can i find out
[03:02] <Ky|e> is it usb?
[03:02] <Ky|e> lsusb
[03:03] <trist> no its built into my desktop
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> trist: sudo lshw -C network
[03:03] <chr0n0> try lspce kyle
[03:03] <trist> i have a hp touchsmart 1060a
[03:03] <chr0n0> er lspci
[03:03] <top_ramen> quick question about 10.10 and 11.4
[03:03] <zebastianortis> I have a laser card for my camera which all of a sudden ahs turned read only and i need to erase the files/format it, how can i do this?
[03:03] <chr0n0> ... trist, try lspci in terminal
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> trist: the output will give a product line, use it to find guides
[03:04] <zebastianortis> when i try to do this as superuser it says read only system
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> trist: also run: rfkill list    to make sure its not blocked
[03:04] <trist> thanks guys
[03:04] <Ky|e> thanx ChronicSyncope
[03:04] <Ky|e> mt
[03:04] <Ky|e> chr0n0
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <wizo> O.O
[03:05] <lxd> 0.0
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <top_ramen> would by ubuntu unleashed book that covers 10.4 have the same cmd and what not for 10.10 and 11.4??
[03:06] <top_ramen> my*
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: pretty much
[03:06] <escott> top_ramen, the main differences in 11.04 are the gui
[03:06] <top_ramen> just a different gui
[03:06] <top_ramen> right
[03:06] <top_ramen> so the terminal cmd are the the same
[03:07] <top_ramen> its been since 10.4 since i played with ubuntu.... NEED to get back into it
[03:07] <top_ramen> I left beause there was no support for my digitizer pen software..... run it on a tablet PC
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: yeah the commands will be extremely similar if not identical
[03:09] <top_ramen> do you know if there is support for a tablet pc digitizer pen in the new 10.10 or 11.4
[03:09] <escott> top_ramen, google for your pen brand
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: or run livecd and test
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: if its usb based then run:  lsusb   and websearch for the usb ID (8 character hex id)
[03:11] <Inumedia> Okay.  I'm going to make a 5$ bet that I'm going to have to remove what I just did from xorg.conf.  Now to reboot and test it out. =D
[03:14] <yudi> dsf sa f
[03:15] <yudi> õĮĀÕźĮ
[03:15] <MrSamy> So, who else is looking forward to natty? :P
[03:15] <wizo> do I have to add a ServerName in my apache site-enabled file?
[03:16] <rww> MrSamy: everyone in #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[03:17] <kaattaa> is anyone familiar with lubuntu and composite managers?
[03:20] <titizinho> Hie
[03:20] <titizinho> Do you my love?
[03:20] <titizinho> quit
[03:20] <titizinho> Client Quit
[03:21] <rww> what
[03:21] <Teeko> why would the iso file from ubuntu.com have the wrong checksum? was it just a fluke in the actual download of the file?
[03:21] <rww> Teeko: Yup. Something went wrong between the Ubuntu download servers and you. Generally, it's on your end ;)
[03:21] <rww> I use Bittorrent, since it automatically checks each bit of the ISO file.
[03:21] <Teeko> lol my internets funny sometimes, so not really suprising
[03:21] <Logan_> !lubuntu | kaattaa
[03:21] <Teeko> yeah thats what i just did when they told me about it
[03:22] <Teeko> they should have more download options listed, you have to kinda search for the torrents and additional download places
[03:22] <Bullterd> Evening All.
[03:23] <Teeko> sad thing is i didnt know about the md5check so i wasted a DVD lol. thats the worst part of the failed iso :(
[03:23] <Bullterd> If I have a log file for a vhost setup as /var/www/domain.name/stats/access_log
[03:23] <Bullterd> how would I go about tail'ing all access_log files?
[03:23] <leapy0yo> is there a log of everything in /var/log?
[03:23] <Bullterd> I tried tail -f /var/www/vhosts/*/stats/access_log but that didnt work :(
[03:23] <escott> Bullterd, tail -f
[03:23] <kaattaa> Logan_, it would be helpful info u just gave me if anyone was awake at #lubuntu... cuz i asked there first about 45 min ago
[03:24] <escott> Bullterd, there may be a multitail or try screen with multiple tails
[03:26] <Teeko> damn autoplay sucks
[03:29] <quiescens> Bullterd: tail -f (file) -f (file) probably works, otherwise apt-get install multitail like escott suggested
[03:31] <Teeko> yay worked that time
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: funny how Md5 testing shows bad images eh
[03:32] <tbruff13> Hey does any one know how to get rid of the wine menu after uninstalling win
[03:32] <tbruff13> wine
[03:33] <hiexpo> hola ActionParsnip
[03:34] <escott> Bullterd, vaguely remember an mtail as well
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> howdy hiexpo
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you can disable it in alacarte
[03:35] <tbruff13> ok figured it out ActionParsnip  I do have another question though I use ffmpeg to convert things to mp3 but ogg wont work i assume that is because ubuntu uses an outdated version of ffmpeg can you help install one that can covert to ogg
[03:37] <geegeegee> ok guys, i did chmod 555 /* and now it wont boot
[03:37] <escott> tbruff13, or just convert ogg to wav and use that
[03:37] <tbruff13> escott, ogg is the format I want to convert to
[03:38] <escott> geegeegee, boot your install disk and fix
[03:38] <geegeegee> ok, i presumei just do chmod 777 /* to /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*
[03:38] <geegeegee> ?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: so you want to convert from mp3 to ogg?
[03:39] <escott> geegeegee, 777 is not the right permission 755
[03:39] <escott> geegeegee, unless you did a chmod -R which would not be good
[03:39] <tbruff13> escott, my version of ffmpeg mp4 to ogg my version of ffmpeg has never heard of ogg I am using the frontend Winff
[03:39] <orighost> dose ogg is free?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> orighost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:42] <tbruff13> I am trying to use the program Winff to covert an mp4 file to an ogg file the program winff uses ffmpeg to do the converting
[03:42] <Teeko> ok wtf install wubi and restart, and no links to open it at all?
[03:43] <escott> tbruff13, do ffmpeg to extract to wav then use ogg123 to make the ogg
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> !info soundconverter
[03:44] <tbruff13> escott, huh I am using winff to do this there is no ogg123 just ogg
[03:44] <hiexpo> tbruff13, you using 10.04 ubuntu ?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: ffmpeg -i input.m4a -acodec vorbis -aq 60 -vn -ac 2 output.ogg
[03:44] <tbruff13> no ubuntu 10.10
[03:45] <escott> tbruff13, ogg123 is the standard ogg encoder
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> escott: says who?
[03:45] <tbruff13> escott ok how would i set up winff to do this can you get the program and explain it i know its alot of work but please
[03:46] <escott> tbruff13, ActionParsnip don't know winff sorry, but I know there is an ogg123 that will encode wav to ogg
[03:46] <hiexpo> tbruff13, he just gave you thecommand to do it in the termina l
[03:46] <Teeko> does anyone know if theres a way to connect remotely to a linux computer from a windows computer? like RDP would from windows to windows
[03:47] <smw> Teeko, ssh, rdesktop, vnc
[03:47] <smw> Teeko, you have option
[03:47] <smw> options*
[03:47] <Teeko> need something pretty basic, just gotta be able to control it without it being super laggy
[03:47] <tbruff13> hiexpo, ok nevermind ill just use mp3 any way do you guys know anything about rockbox the mp3 software
[03:48] <hiexpo> tbruff13, no i don't know anything about rockbox myself
[03:48] <jhjessup> Teeko: Look at VNC.
[03:48] <tbruff13> ok im out sorry
[03:49] <Teeko> think VNC would be the best option?
[03:49] <jhjessup> Teeko: Probably. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-remote-desktop-builtin-vnc-compatible-dead-easy/
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: there is no best, depends on needs
[03:50] <Teeko> heh thats awesome, thanks alot.
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: don't vnc over www without an ssh tunnel
[03:51] <Teeko> ok that made no sense
[03:51] <Teeko> sorry. lol
[03:51] <Teeko> whats an SSH tunnel?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> Hey, I'm a registered user, but I was directed to the unregistered channel and requested to do a spambot-check?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> It also states I was not registered?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> What gives?
[03:53] <smw> RJ_F1, you may not have been registered at the time
[03:54] <_jesse_> RJ_F1: maybe you joined before it recognized you were registered
[03:54] <smw> RJ_F1, when you first login there is some delay
[03:54] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: you use unbound and dnsmasq, if my memory serves me right.. on the box with the unbound server do you also use dsnmasq for caching? my unbound server is on an actual server
[03:54] <jhjessup> Teeko: VNC connections aren't protected with strong enctryption, so it's possible for a third party to intercept VNC communications. Consequently, if you're using VNC on a network with untrusted users (i.e., the internet instead of your home network) you should run it through an encrypted tunnel, like SSH.
[03:54] <smw> RJ_F1, put nick:pass as the irc server password and this would be unlikely to happen
[03:55] <leapy0yo> hi
[03:55] <Teeko> jhjessup, i get that actually :P but i still have absolutely no idea what an SSH tunnel is or how to set one up
[03:55] <ebiester> So, I did an upgrade a few days ago, and I just tried to boot back into Windows 7, and the option is gone. os-loader doesn't seem to be picking up the partition now, instead picking up a weird vista psuedo-partition that just reboots. Could somebody /msg me their Win7 info from grub so I can make  a custom loader until I can figure out what's going on?
[03:56] <RJ_F1> ebiester:How many partitions do u have
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, ssh is the best way to remotely control a linux computer but I am not sure if you can do x forwarding over it.
[03:56] <jhjessup> Teeko: Got it. A good overview article is at http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, what do you plan to do with this?
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, why do you need this as that may change what I suggest you do.
[03:57] <ebiester> Rj_F1: 6. 2 linux, 4 windows, and two of those are funky things Asus did.
[03:57] <chaorain> Hey quick question. What partition type is best for videos? (Not Recordings) I'm using Mythtv
[03:58] <Teeko> oh um
[03:58] <Teeko> i just need to be able to control that computer from anywhere
[03:58] <Teeko> when im away from my house, i need to be able to access it
[03:58] <smw> Teeko, define control...
[03:58] <Teeko> use it as i was sitting right in front of it
[03:58] <smw> Teeko, do you want to access files? Run local programs? Take over the whole desktop?
[03:58] <Teeko> not just use the files
[03:58] <Teeko> take over the desktop
[03:59] <Teeko> i use remote desktop on windows now, but im trying to find things out before i set that computer up with linux, so i know what im doing atleast halfheartedly
[03:59] <smw> Teeko, in that case VNC and rdesktop are your only options
[03:59] <Teeko> which would be faster?
[03:59] <Teeko> i dont need many features, but speed is important
[04:00] <escott> chaorain, something with extents ext4/btrfs/xfs/zfs
[04:00] <smw> Teeko, I don't know. I use ssh to do remote connections...
[04:00] <Teeko> ok well what does ssh do?
[04:00] <jhjessup> Teeko: I haven't used it, but a couple of my friends really like teamviewer. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[04:00] <MaRk-I> !vnc | Teeko
[04:00] <Teeko> er, whats the difference
[04:01] <RJ_F1> hey, what's it mean, connection reset by peer?
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, ssh gives you a command line prompt. If you use X forwarding. You can run remote programs very fast.
[04:01] <leapy0yo> does the 64bit of ubuntu have more problems than the 32 bit one? does it take more resources or is it supposed to run faster? becasue my refresh rate is not great I get tears now I got this version
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, the remote program only shows up on the computer you are on and not the computer the program is actually running on
[04:01] <escott> Teeko, ssh and X would be the linux standard way, but would not allow you to take over an existing desktop
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, it also provides file access
[04:02] <Sasquatch7> Hi all
[04:02] <escott> Teeko, so if you turn the computer on, and log on, you cant use ssh with X forwarding to grab that session. VNC or remote desktop would allow you to take that session
[04:02] <smw> Hi Sasquatch7
[04:02] <Sasquatch7> I'm tempted to install the new 11.04 beta and then upgrade to the final on it's release day...or is it better to just wait for the final release to install?
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, truthfully, I would wait a couple of weeks after to install.
[04:03] <Sasquatch7> smw: Really, a couple weeks? Why so?
[04:03] <RJ_F1> There's only like 4 days left or something
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, the new one is probably a little buggy. They always rush.
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, they feel a need to adhere to the 6month timeline... always
[04:04] <leapy0yo> does ubuntu 64 have more issues and problems whereas ubuntu 32 does not have those problems?
[04:04] <smw> Sasquatch7, not to mention the fact that the mirrors get loaded down and you can't install packages
[04:04] <Sasquatch7> smw: Oh ok, thanks. What version are you using currently?
[04:04] <escott> leapy0yo, the main 64 bit issues are with stuff like flash where the vendor has not provided a 32 bit version. most issues are pretty well ironed out though
[04:04] <smw> Sasquatch7, 10.10
[04:04] <POOPHAMMER> question about installing via wubi: i have rebooted out of windows and started the installer, but is has been hanging for about 40 minutes on configuring hardware, is this normal?
[04:05] <POOPHAMMER> amd X2 600+ 3 gb of ram if that helps
[04:05] <smw> Sasquatch7, whatever the last release is
[04:05] <POOPHAMMER> *6000+
[04:05] <Sasquatch7> smw: Oh ok, and is it alright to do an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 or is it better to do a fresh install?
[04:06] <smw> Sasquatch7, depends on who you talk to. I don't trust upgrades and do a fresh install. Most people don't and seem to be fine.
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> What's wrong with doing an upgrade?
[04:06] <Sasquatch7> smw: that's what Ive heard too.
[04:06] <_jesse_> leapy0yo: not that I know of, 64bit runs fine for me
[04:06] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: Yea that's what I'm questioning :)
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> Most of the time, an upgrade merely mucks up customisations - and/or programs you've compiled on your own...otherwise, it's not a bad means by which to move upwards...
[04:06] <smw> Sasquatch7, the party line is that they are perfectly fine. I had issues (years ago) because I tried to update when the repos were overloaded.
[04:06] <POOPHAMMER> i am also kinda afraid to reboot out of this installer to prevent file system damage
[04:07] <smw> Sasquatch7, since then I have used it as a perfect time to cleanse my system of all the mistakes I have made.
[04:07] <tripelb> anyone know how to do a bulletpoint with a simple solid circle (vanilla) in abiword (there's no abiword channel)
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> Sasquatch7, If you're doing a minor upgrade (single version upwards) you should be right as rain. if you're trying to do something like upgrade from 9.10 or something like that, well, expect major issues...
[04:07] <Sasquatch7> smw: Ha good thinking.
[04:07] <leapy0yo> i686 is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[04:08] <jhjessup> leapy0yo: 32-bit.
[04:08] <rww> leapy0yo: 32-bit
[04:08] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: Oh ok, no it will probably be an upgrade from the beta to 11.04...I'm currently using Win7 :)
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> I'm waiting for 72-bit desktop edition. Cuz it's 8 more than 64!
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> Sasquatch7, Windows 7? Sorry about that. :)
[04:08] <RJ_F1> Lol. how about 128-bit processors, anyone want one, I got a nice hookup
[04:08] <smw> YankDownUnder, actually they go by powers of two. I am waiting for 256bit personally
[04:08] <RJ_F1> Octa-core 128bit processor.
[04:09] <POOPHAMMER> :/ anyone?
[04:09] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: haha, it's not too bad...but dying to get back into ubuntu
[04:09] <sunxiaojian> hah
[04:09] <YankDownUnder> POOPHAMMER, Obviously you're having an issue - having repeated yourself several times. What's the issue?
[04:10] <smw> POOPHAMMER, many people here don't know wubi
[04:10] <RJ_F1> Oh, hey, I can help
[04:10] <Teeko> or like it, ive learned :p
[04:10] <YankDownUnder> Wubi? Nah - not me.
[04:10] <Teeko> my wubi just didnt work
[04:10] <Sasquatch7> me no like wubi
[04:10] <odst0016> wubi gave me issues
[04:10] <Teeko> installed it, and it had no links to start, couldnt find an exe file, etc etc
[04:10] <POOPHAMMER> well i am just wondering if it is typical for it to hang on the configuring hardware part for about an hour now
[04:10] <YankDownUnder> I prefer wasabi.
[04:10] <smw> POOPHAMMER, wubi is most often used by people who are new to ubuntu or who are developing wubi.
[04:10] <RJ_F1> mine sort of worked.. Separate partiion is better
[04:11] <Sasquatch7> POOPHAMMER: No, that is probably not normal at all.
[04:11] <RJ_F1> and no. it is not typical.
[04:11] <POOPHAMMER> well i had a disaster with GRUB when i tried to make a partition
[04:11] <RJ_F1> yeah, that happens too.
[04:11] <POOPHAMMER> so i didnt want to do that again
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> POOPHAMMER, 1.) you're running under Windows; HAL is a confusing bit in the best of times, so why even bother?
[04:11] <smw> POOPHAMMER, the people who are new to ubuntu are rarely able to help others so it is very hard to get support for wubi in irc.
[04:11] <RJ_F1> Yank: HAL 2000???
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> Hard to get support for Wubi from folks that don't run Windows...(for a long long time)
[04:11] <rww> YankDownUnder: Wubi doesn't run Ubuntu under Windows, it runs Ubuntu from a loopback partition on an NTFS filesystem using the Windows bootloader.
[04:12] <rww> Windows is not running when Ubuntu is ;P
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> HAL...hehehehehehe
[04:12] <rww> also, HAL is deprecated in current versions of Ubuntu
[04:12] <RJ_F1> Hardware abstraction is lame.
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> rww, Thanks, learn something new every day. I don't do Windows here - and my clients I migrate to either Ubuntu or MacOSX...ergo, I don't do Windows.
[04:12] <rww> I don't do Wubi, personally. I just know how it works ;)
[04:13] <odst0016> the only reason i have windows on my laptop is my intel integrated hd graphics card must be able to play games and thats the only way i know how
[04:13] <POOPHAMMER> idk about doing a partition again, GRUB really messed me up last time
[04:13] <smw> rww, I think wubi was a horrible mistake because it makes support impossible. Anyone who normally helps has never used it
[04:13] <YankDownUnder> I've my preferences for backing up the entire disk, repartitioning as per MY desires, THEN using a nice liveCD or liveUSB to do my installations...
[04:13] <POOPHAMMER> wiped out my windows boot and had to reinstall
[04:14] <escott> POOPHAMMER, i've never had that problem with grub, we can take you through a normal install
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> i think i am just going to try to repartition
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> and do a normal install and try my luck
[04:14] <Sasquatch7> Is software similar to Xming on Windows needed in Linux? Or what is it's equivalent?
[04:14] <odst0016> why not just shrink your drive through windows
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> last time was with Debian so maybe Ubuntu wont mess me up
[04:14] <Sasquatch7> POOPHAMMER: Good luck!
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> i only did Debian because i am familiar with it through doing server stuffs via ssh so i thought i would like it for a desktop
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> but not after that GRUB disaster
[04:15] <smw> Sasquatch7, Xming is a port of what is already on linux
[04:15] <Sasquatch7> smw: Ok, thanks.
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> i might pop back in tomorrow when i do this, for now i am just going to shut down and go to bed
[04:15] <smw> Sasquatch7, Xming is the windows version of what linux uses for graphics. It comes with ubuntu desktop
[04:16] <POOPHAMMER> thanks anyway guys
[04:16] <Sasquatch7> smw: Xserver?
[04:16] <ahmedhelal> hello, am trying to install a driver for my clickpad on hp envy 15: using the fix in here : http://linuxenvy.blogspot.com/2011/01/touchpad-fixed.html    however am getting an error when installing the deb file : http://pastebin.com/NYTuXzXP , any idea ?
[04:16] <smw> Sasquatch7, correct. All linux DESKTOPS have X installed.
[04:17] <Sasquatch7> smw: Thanks :)
[04:17] <Tremwar> so do macs... but it's just not the same...
[04:17] <Tremwar> I take that back, it's an optional install on macs...
[04:18] <escott> ahmedhelal, why are you running a pae kernel for an envy?
[04:18] <Tremwar> I thought the pae kernel was for more than 3Gigs of memory
[04:18] <ahmedhelal> escott: i just installed ubuntu from original iso
[04:19] <ahmedhelal> i have 4gb of memory on that envy
[04:19] <escott> ahmedhelal, was it your intention not to run 64bit or just accidental
[04:19] <dr_Willis> i thought it was for 4+GB of ram.
[04:20] <escott> ahmedhelal, most people with core i-series are probably running 64bit
[04:20] <odst0016> i have i5 running 64bit
[04:20] <Tremwar> yeah, it's for goobers(like me) who installed the 32bit version on accident
[04:20] <ahmedhelal> escott: is this whats causing the problem anyway ?
[04:21] <Teeko> anyone know what the ubuntu remote desktop port is?
[04:21] <ahmedhelal> cause i just tried the natty 64bit version installation before this one and installion failed for same reason
[04:21] <Teeko> well what it defaults to atleast
[04:21] <escott> ahmedhelal, probably. the guy who made this deb probably made it for a 64bit kernel and never tested on 32bit
[04:21] <odst0016> what was the reason
[04:21] <Tremwar> yeah, if the driver is 64-bit then that's the problem
[04:21] <dr_Willis> teeko if its normal vnc ports its like 5900 +1 for each new instance/desktop
[04:21] <ahmedhelal> escott: i just tested it on 64bit kernel of natty warwhale and it failed for same error
[04:22] <escott> ahmedhelal, and really why buy a core i and not take advantage of the 64bit nature of it
[04:22] <Teeko> thanks willis
[04:22] <dr_Willis> teeko i hink thats the default vbnc pors.
[04:22] <dr_Willis> vnc ports
[04:22] <ahmedhelal> escott: i thougth the deb didnt run because of the 64bit version, so i installed my 10.10 32 bit for that
[04:22] <ahmedhelal> i can revert back to 64 but am more interested to get my clickpad working i really cant use the pc at all
[04:23] <odst0016> do you have a vaio
[04:23] <ahmedhelal> odst0016: its hp envy 15
[04:23] <escott> try and figure out what these people are running, if they are using 10.10 64bit which would be most common use that until upstream synaptics gets the required patches
[04:23] <fisix> does anybody know why i can't receive emoticons on pidgin? it appears as the red cross out sign (kinda like the non-smoking symbol) on a black rectangle
[04:23] <odst0016> ok i had the clickpad issue on my vaio until the .28 kernel i think
[04:24] <escott> its either that or figure out how to deal with kernel interface changes
[04:24] <ahmedhelal> escott: kernel interface changes .. i dont know even whats that lol
[04:25] <Tremwar> can you download the tar? you could see if there are any options on the ./configure...
[04:25] <escott> exactly my point :)
[04:25] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: there is only a .deb file no tar there
[04:25] <Tremwar> hmmmm... that sucks
[04:26] <Tremwar> I really hate driver issues...
[04:26] <theholder> Hi i am having issues with my Compaq Presario CQ61 my microphone is not working at all
[04:26] <escott> ahmedhelal, if i could only steal my girlfriends envy i would love to try this... but she won't let me touch it
[04:26] <theholder> but my output sound is working
[04:26] <ahmedhelal> escott: i really regret buying the envy
[04:26] <Tremwar> I think the whole world would have already switched to mac if it wasn't for drivers...
[04:26] <ahmedhelal> 100% regret, u shud see the bios on it
[04:26] <Tremwar> err switched to linux
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> 0 control !, the most editing u can do is boot order and system clock
[04:27] <Tremwar> eh, mac too
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> i was trying to install mac on my envy actually but failed
[04:27] <escott> it sure is pretty though
[04:27] <Tremwar> I'm running a dual boot MBP
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> i did on my desktop though, its pretty cool , right from retail disk
[04:27] <odst0016> im going to try to install mac on my vaio tomorrow for the fun of it
[04:27] <Tremwar> OS X and Ubuntu 10.10
[04:27] <odst0016> the only prob i should have is my graphics card
[04:28] <ahmedhelal> odst0016: ati ?
[04:28] <Tremwar> Ubuntu is pretty good with graphics cards...
[04:28] <Tremwar> I would be worried about wireless
[04:28] <hiexpo> Tremwar, what driver you trying to find >?
[04:28] <Tremwar> that's always my problem
[04:29] <Tremwar> I've given up for now, it's the same old broadcom mess...
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: my wifi seems to be detected well, as i can see all wifi spots around me listed
[04:29] <Tremwar> It works, I just can't use it for Kismet... e.i no monitor mode
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> however i cant connect to any of them even unencrypted ones :S
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: do u think its a driver issue too ?
[04:30] <Tremwar> it's a known issue for broadcom cards
[04:30] <ahmedhelal> i think its a broadcom yes
[04:30] <Tremwar> last computers I've had have had broadcom wifi...
[04:30] <ahmedhelal> any fixes ?
[04:30] <hiexpo> Tremwar, didyacheck aircrack's site
[04:31] <Tremwar> there are a few, but they very from site to site..
[04:31] <Tremwar> and it turned out to be such a iffy hack that I opted against it
[04:32] <Tremwar> it was a solution, followed by, and if that doesn't work.... and if that doesn't work... and if you are still having problems...
[04:32] <fisix> does anybody know why i can't receive emoticons on pidgin? it appears as the red cross out sign (kinda like the non-smoking symbol) on a black rectangle. from other users it just appears to me as plaintext
[04:32] <hiexpo> yep those are bad signs
[04:33] <hiexpo> fisix, cause the use a differant format
[04:33] <Tremwar> but the aircrack site has just about the best docs for such problems
[04:33] <escott> fisix, that is the missing icon icon
[04:33] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: NDISWRAPPER ?
[04:33] <escott> try to change the emoticon theme
[04:33] <Teeko> ironic eh
[04:33] <fisix> hiexpo, escott i'm dealing with custom emoticons in wlm i mean. not default ones, those transfer fine and appear as the pidgin defaults
[04:34] <aauthor> Would anyone know why I can't see the google-gadgets packets in synaptic even though it a listed package for natty?  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/294774
[04:34] <Bibs> pff
[04:34] <Tremwar> that was another option I rolled out of... performance problems and a proprietary driver... ugh... I was trying to use Linux to get away from proprietary, lol
[04:35] <Tremwar> I still use Linux on here some times... although I'm running OS X right now...
[04:36] <richar_> hy
[04:36] <escott> fisix, wlm? what is that
[04:36] <Dreki> anyone tried to run starcraft1 with wine recently? im having issues with it running slow.
[04:36] <Tremwar> MacBook Pro is cool and all... but it's probably gonna be my last...
[04:36] <fisix> escott, windows live messenger
[04:36] <rww> aauthor: please don't crosspost natty questions in #ubuntu
[04:36] <smw> Dreki, I have not tried recently
[04:36] <smw> Dreki, but it worked fine. Are you using the wine ppa?
[04:37] <aauthor> rww: Sorry I just wasn't getting a bite in #ubuntu+1.
[04:37] <Tremwar> OH God, what a terrible thing just happed to me...
[04:37] <escott> fisix, but icons are working for other chat protocols like google/jabber?
[04:37] <Tremwar> the knob on my microwave just got stuck and I burned the hell out of my pizza....
[04:37] <Dreki> smw just ubuntu repository.
[04:38] <Tremwar> *SOB*
[04:38] <dr_Willis> Oh the Humanity.. burnt pizas
[04:38] <smw> Dreki, I always use the wine ppa, it has the latest
[04:38] <Tremwar> it's not pizza anymore... it's coal...
[04:39] <mknarr> or is it a just add water  to make the pizza
[04:39] <Tremwar> ahhhh... sooo crunchy...
[04:40] <Guest41828> Hy My Nautilus on Compress not is possible compress with password, Why
[04:40] <Guest41828> Hy My Nautilus on Compress not is possible compress with password, Why
[04:41] <YankDownUnder> Don't flood.
[04:41] <Tremwar> ? Could you rephrase the question?
[04:41] <escott> he wants to create a password protected zip file
[04:41] <dr_Willis> clarify what you mean guest41828
[04:41] <escott> i think
[04:41] <Guest41828> Yes
[04:41] <Tremwar> ah
[04:42] <dr_Willis> I dont think that feautre is supported by the  archiver tools
[04:42] <escott> i would bet that password protection on zip is pretty week, but i dont know for sure
[04:42] <Guest41828> Stopped working by File Manager, this newly
[04:42] <escott> weak not week
[04:42] <Tremwar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60548
[04:43] <Guest41828> Via command line I found the correct syntax, Thanks
[04:43] <Tremwar> there you go...
[04:43] <hiexpo> i am getting these speeds but only getting 60kb's dont make since http://www.speedtest.net/result/1267283729.png
[04:43] <Tremwar> it's the -e option I thing
[04:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> Hey, can't get ubuntu to boot off of USB stick
[04:43] <Tremwar> BIOS
[04:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> bios reports "missing operating system"
[04:43] <Tremwar> check your BIOS boot order
[04:43] <dr_Willis> how did you make the stick spaz?
[04:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: "dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/stick"
[04:44] <dr_Willis> spax thats the problem then.. thats not how you do it
[04:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: heard that would be fine.
[04:45] <dr_Willis> spaz	 not for ubuntu iso . some disrtos can do it that way.. but not ubuntu
[04:45] <ahmedhelal> escott, Tremwar dep worked on 10.10 64bit flawlessly  , but now am not sure about updates, should i run system updates or that might break what i installed ?
[04:45] <dr_Willis> use  tool from pendrivelinux web site. or the usb-disk creator tool.
[04:45] <Tremwar> It shouldn't...
[04:46] <dr_Willis> or unetbootin, or any of  dozen other tools to do it :)
[04:46] <escott> ahmedhelal, you are probably ok as long as the kernel version doesn't change too much
[04:46] <marcio_> 88
[04:46] <ahmedhelal> you mean if i dont update from 10.10 to the kernel of 11.04 ?
[04:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: Ah, ok. Either way, my ultimate goal is to get slackware and win7 dual boot on my desktop, but neither want to boot off of CDs, and neither work on USB sticks either. Ubuntu LiveCD and Puppy Linux (cd or usb stick) work fine though
[04:46] <Tremwar> ahmedhelal, and if it does... you can select the other kernel on startup right?
[04:47] <escott> ahmedhelal, and you can always boot the old version. so stay on 2.6.36-whatever, and worry about natty
[04:47] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic - use  a tool from the pendrivelinux web site to make a bootable usb stick perhaps.
[04:48] <odst0016> so i played with natty for a day how is unity
[04:48] <escott> ahmedhelal, that was a wicked fast system install... how did you do it that fast
[04:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: I'm also wanting to double check that my CPU is 64bit, as I am 90% sure that it is, but if its not, I suppose that might be why things aren't installing (though  tried 32 bit slackware too but that didn't work either)
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> usb ;)
[04:48] <Maahes_> hey, how can I transfer the keyring of one user to another user?
[04:48] <hiexpo> i just did a slack the other day on a usb and it worked fine
[04:48] <Tremwar> it was the live cd right?
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: yea
[04:48] <dr_Willis> 64 vs 32bit cpu shouldent matter
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> imaged to a fast usb 2  flash disk
[04:49] <Tremwar> yeah, live CD install are quick, but there are plenty of updates you need
[04:49] <rww> odst0016: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[04:49] <Maahes_> 64bits totally matters, you get like twice as many bits! ;P
[04:49] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: yeah :(
[04:49] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, cat /proc/cpuinfo once you boot
[04:49] <dr_Willis> bigger bits baby!
[04:49] <Tremwar> just take note of your current kernel version if everything is going well right now... so you can switch back to it if need be
[04:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: that doesn't matter for booting the CD for installing said operating system /loading the kernel in the case of the slackware disk?
[04:50] <dr_Willis> a 64bit cd wont work on a 32bit cpu.. but a 32bit os should work on any/either cpu..
[04:50] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, you should always be able to boot a 32bit install disk, but if you have a 64bit cd you probably want to install from a 64bit install disk
[04:51] <Tremwar> 32bit won't work on an 8bit :-P
[04:51] <Tremwar> lol
[04:51] <escott> Tremwar, so I can't install ubuntu on my comodore 64? :-P
[04:51] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: yeah, thats what I thought. So that my 64 bit win7 disk starts up fine means that it is 64 bit, but then chokes means that something else is acting up?
[04:52] <dr_Willis> could be you are just not making the boot sticks properly
[04:52] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, what kind of cpu do you have/how old is it
[04:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> also, crap, why did I boot the ubuntu cd for running cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I so could have booted puppy and it would have been done faster xD
[04:53] <dr_Willis> the bios settings should tell you the cpu :)
[04:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: its a pentium 4 prescott something or other
[04:53] <vahnx> for running a minecraft server would i loose much performance with 10.10 x64 vs 10.10 x64 server edition
[04:53] <Tremwar> puppy is fast..
[04:53] <escott> pentium 4 is 32bit
[04:53] <dr_Willis> puppy is also annoying in ways. :)
[04:53] <hiexpo> i love puppy and also you can pull the cd or usb out and it runs in ram
[04:54] <dr_Willis> Pent 4 32bit - i do agree
[04:54] <Spaz_Dynamic> puppy is blazing, its what I use on my laptop. (part of why is cause I got tired of all the graphical errors in GNOME)
[04:54] <trihope> KM0201: How are you today?
[04:54] <vahnx> puppy has no x64 version though right?
[04:54] <vahnx> so stuck with low ram =(
[04:54] <Spaz_Dynamic> hiexpo: assuming you have enough xD if you have like 128 Meg, you're SoL
[04:54] <dr_Willis> the idea of 64bit puppy . is a little.. weird :)
[04:54] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm trying to install djbdns.  I did apt-get install djbdns, but there is no /etc/init.d/djbdns.
[04:54] <Tremwar> yeah, puppy does get get it old really quick... but I honestly would never have used Linux if not for puppy...
[04:55] <hiexpo> Spaz_Dynamic, true
[04:55] <vahnx> does puppy see multiple cores?
[04:55] <vahnx> by defaul;t?
[04:55] <vahnx> no config
[04:55] <Galaxor> It also didn't install /etc/init.d/tinydns, etc.
[04:55] <Tremwar> can't remeber... I thought it did hyperthreading...
[04:55] <hiexpo> i don't know if it will boot with low ram cause it loads to ram first than boots
[04:55] <Galaxor> the debian package installs these files, but the ubuntu 10.04 version does not.
[04:56] <rww> Can you take this to #puppylinux, please :)
[04:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> alright, so what do you want to hear from cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[04:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: yes, it does.
[04:56] <Tremwar> alright, enough about puppy, sorry rww
[04:57] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, what is the model name
[04:57] <Tremwar> here is a Ubuntu question I have...
[04:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> intel pentium 4
[04:58] <Tremwar> Ubuntu uses alot of python 2.x scripts correct?
[04:58] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, if thats all it says its 32bit
[04:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> and in the bios I have seen something about T64H something
[04:58] <Tremwar> what's the plan when a major movement towards Python 3.x is made, with the backwards comaptibility issues and all
[04:58] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, intel started getting really fancy with naming after the pentium
[04:59] <rww> Tremwar: port the scripts to Python 3
[05:00] <Tremwar> hmmm, ok, I was wondering if there were any consideration of porting to any other language or sticking with Python...
[05:00] <Inumedia> Who was the person who helped me fix my touchpad issues?  I need those two shell commands again.
[05:00] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, also you should not see an "lm" listed under flags for a 32bit processor
[05:00] <rww> Inumedia: ActionParsnip?
[05:01] <Tremwar> mac touchpad?
[05:01] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: What were those two commands again?
[05:01] <Inumedia> Synaptic Touchpad
[05:01] <rww> 01:41:38 < ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you can then run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[05:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: how about I just look in the bios xD
[05:01] <Inumedia> Thank you rww.
[05:01] <Tremwar> rww(as for the Python question, I'm a die hard Ruby fan, I was just curious)
[05:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> in my bios, it says under processor info "64-bit technology = yes (Intel EM64T)"
[05:01] <Inumedia> Now I need to still figure out how to increase the speed + get my touchpad option back in the mouse settings. :P
[05:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: does that change your mind? =P
[05:02] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, weird but it is a Pentium 4?
[05:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> It says it is, yes
[05:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4 says that some of the p4's were 64bit
[05:03] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, learn something every day :)
[05:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> lol
[05:04] <Spaz_Dynamic> yeah, its a socket 775, has hyper threading, is 2.8 Ghz
[05:05] <p1und3r> does anyone know if gtkmm is fully compatible with the new unity interface?
[05:05] <vahnx> i wonder if i can ever get used to unity :(
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, I've basically the same setup, but a 3.0ghz; after experimentation, I've found that 32bit just works more smoothly on older P4 systems
[05:05] <p1und3r> i love unity vahnx
[05:05] <IanLiu> I was transferring a big file from my Desktop to an external HD and I accidentally unplugged it. Now it does not mount anymore. It is formated as NTFS. Is there a way to recover it?
[05:05] <vahnx> i cant stand it but maybe it will grow on me
[05:05] <vahnx> just seems like a step back
[05:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: ah, under which OS's?
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> vahnx, You can move to Gnome3, and then tweak it to be like 2.3
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, I don't do Windows, so it's been Fedora and Ubuntu
[05:06] <vahnx> if they want to compete with iOS/Mac being all icon like, they should at least make it look better =p
[05:06] <dr_Willis> ianliu - you may want to have an actual windows macine scan/fix/repair the  filesystem
[05:06] <escott> IanLiu, you should boot windows and ask it to fix the disk errors
[05:06] <IanLiu> escott: I see. I will try that. Thanks!
[05:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: hmm, i'm wanting to do slackware and windows7
[05:09] <dr_Willis> you should be able to make a usb stick with grub2 that can boot a slackware iso. or use the pendrivelinux tools to make such a stick.
[05:11] <vahnx> be warned slackware default kernel does not support multiple cores
[05:11] <vahnx> install a diff kernel
[05:11] <Inumedia> Anyone recommend a client for MSN/Windows live?
[05:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: ah, yeah. vahnx: which kernel? and does that count hyper-threading too?
[05:11] <dr_Willis> !im
[05:11] <Inumedia> Other than Pidgin :P
[05:12] <vahnx> i dont know all i know is default didnt see my 4 cores
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, Good luck on the Windows7 - still can't put a different set of pearls on the same old pig.
[05:12] <codex84> how would disable internet access on a another pc
[05:12] <codex84> on ur lan?
[05:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: which kernel was that? And was that 32bit or 64bit?
[05:12] <vahnx> 32 bit default kernel in 31.1 whatever that was
[05:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: Yeah, well, there are some games that just don't play on linux, not even with wine.
[05:12] <vahnx> 13.1*
[05:13] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, Virtualbox.
[05:13] <Laibsch> how do I find out if an initrd has support for lvm?  I've recently run into trouble to boot my lucid machine.
[05:13] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, ....or Crossover Games for Linux
[05:13] <vahnx> slackware officially only has 32 bit i believe, for 64 bit theres branch offs
[05:13] <vahnx> like slamd64
[05:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: I've had major preformance issues using virtualbox, particularly since I'm then running two OS at the same time
[05:14] <hiexpo> nope slack has 32 and 64
[05:14] <telemarketer> hi all
[05:14] <ahmedhelal> Tristam: ok its not a broadcom card, its an intel one.. still cant connect to surrounding wifi spots though
[05:14] <vahnx> where is the 64 on their site?
[05:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: Whats the crossover thing? And does it support the newest .net frameworks? One of the games I have requires .net 4 I think
[05:14] <hiexpo> one seclet me see
[05:14] <sur> hello, how does the disk utility does "take ownership of the filesystem"? I do not see any related entry in /etc/fstab
[05:14] <ahmedhelal> escott:  my wifi turned out to be not a broadcom card, its an intel one.. still cant connect to surrounding wifi spots though
[05:14] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic what game?
[05:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: go to get slack, and look under the 32 bit downloads
[05:15] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:15] <vahnx> download link only shows diff languages
[05:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: one I have in particular is Battlefield Badcompany 2
[05:15] <vahnx> ooh its down near the bottom
[05:15] <vahnx> must be new they didnt have 64 for the longest time
[05:16] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic - ive seen some games work without the .net stuff.  with differnt loader front ends. such as LOTRO
[05:16] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: yeah, its on the news page for '09 I think
[05:16] <YankDownUnder> I've cheated on WINE a tad bit...not that it's hard to do...just have to have a copy of XP installed and floating around...
[05:17] <ugarich> i am sorry, but what channel for rus ubuntu users?
[05:17] <hiexpo> actually i think 32 bit runs better on a 64bit system
[05:17] <vahnx> i wish ubuntu would give the choice for firefox/chrome during install :D
[05:18] <judgex_> how do i disable the firewall in ubuntu?
[05:18] <dr_Willis> !firewall
[05:18] <izinucs> vahnx: there's not enough room on the cd.. they fight for every meg when putting it together..
[05:18] <cryptopsy> someone describe how i mount by the command line ntfs as read-write
[05:18] <escott> ahmedhelal, no experience with intel wifi
[05:18] <dr_Willis> theres no default firewall rules.  so by defult firewall is off
[05:18] <vahnx> ah i c.
[05:18] <allorder> gufw isnt enabled ?
[05:19] <izinucs> and ports are closed
[05:19] <judgex_> but when i go 'iptables -L' i see a lot of rules
[05:19] <dr_Willis> cryptopsy:  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdXXX /Mountpoint
[05:19] <judgex_> and i have no idea where they came from...
[05:20] <cryptopsy> dr_Willis: doesn't work with mount?
[05:20] <dr_Willis> mount uses the same ntfs-3g stuff.. differnt route.. same end.
[05:20] <cryptopsy> so mount /dev/sdxxx /mountpoint should work?
[05:21] <dr_Willis> mount -t ntfs-3g  /dev/sdxxx /media/foo
[05:21] <cryptopsy> -t isn't necessary
[05:21] <dr_Willis> it pays to be exacting..
[05:22] <cryptopsy> no it doens't
[05:22] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: hey, uh, pendrivelinux is a windows exe >.>
[05:22] <dr_Willis> then go for it..
[05:22] <cryptopsy> -t isn't free
[05:22] <cryptopsy> stop recommeding these things to unsuspecting users
[05:22] <dr_Willis> spaz they have linux
[05:22] <dr_Willis> -t isent free? Huh?
[05:22] <cryptopsy> -t isn't free
[05:22] <vahnx> how much does -t cost?
[05:23] <cryptopsy> half a second and a micro increase to RSI
[05:23] <trihope> I'm a noob and need help with installing software of the internet. I am trying to download a usb indicator applet. I installed the .deb, but am not seeing it in the "Add to Panel" options.
[05:23] <ugarich_> ą╗čÄą┤ąĖ, ą░ ą║čéąŠ-ąĮąĖčéčī ą┐ąŠ-čĆčāčüčüą║ąĖ ą┐ąŠąĮąĖą╝ą░ąĄčé?
[05:23] <dr_Willis> almost as much time as youve wasted asking abou tit...
[05:23] <cryptopsy> no
[05:23] <cryptopsy> -t times 1000 times used, times 1000 users being inconvenianced
[05:24] <judgex_> dr_Willis, does moblock wipe out ubuntu's firewall configuration?
[05:24] <dr_Willis> judex_ no idea. never tried it.
[05:24] <judgex_> dr_Willis, okay
[05:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: where? o.o
[05:24] <cryptopsy> that's like recommended to use the force flag  because 'it pays to be exacting'
[05:24] <cryptopsy> how about learn what its for
[05:25] <vahnx> yay ubuntu finished installing with the updates.. time to setup minecraft server and go to bed!
[05:25] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic its there somewher. ive used it befor.
[05:25] <vahnx> stupid slackware
[05:25] <cryptopsy> ubuntu fanatic gets offended, resorts to name calling
[05:25]  * telemarketer is a slackware user :)
[05:25] <trihope>  I am trying to download a usb indicator applet. I installed the .deb, but am not seeing it in the "Add to Panel" options.
[05:25] <escott> trihope, use synaptic
[05:25] <telemarketer> if that's okay
[05:25] <cryptopsy> vahnx: hey did you know there's a free variant of minecraft written in C, its able to generate terrains much better
[05:25] <vahnx> oh noes slackwares still installed somehow =/ must format!
[05:26] <vahnx> cryptopsy: never heard of it. but all my freidns are on minecraft
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: its way better plus its free
[05:26] <vahnx> whats it called
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: also theres another version that costs 3 dollars thats much better, its a copycat but better
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: i don't know, i think that game is stupid and played it only once
[05:26] <vahnx> ah :D
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: i saw it on one guy's channel named 'godcraft'
[05:27] <cryptopsy> should be the most recent video or something
[05:27] <crum> hey
[05:27] <vahnx> well i know minecraft classic is free and way faster, but not as many features
[05:27] <cryptopsy> minecraft team is too busy trying to secure patents to care about updates
[05:27] <trihope> escott: I believe i installed it already (according to ubuntu software center) but I can't find it.
[05:27] <cryptopsy> no this isn't like the classic, its like the 10 dollar version
[05:27] <cryptopsy> it has picks and weapons
[05:27] <vahnx> anyone here have a good netflix recommendation before bed?
[05:27] <escott> trihope, what was it you installed?
[05:27] <bastidrazor> !offtopic
[05:27] <cryptopsy> watch 'glengarry glen ross' on netflix
[05:28] <vahnx> :O cover looks boring
[05:28] <trihope> escott: indicator-usb  an applet to safely remove usb
[05:28] <vahnx> pkpkpk
[05:28] <escott> trihope, a panel applet? and you are not running natty narwhal. you should be able to get it with a right click on the panel
[05:28] <trihope> yes, 10.10
[05:29] <vahnx> anyone play rs
[05:29] <cryptopsy> why do my ftp transfers freeze on files greater than 20M?
[05:29] <cryptopsy> they freeze on 100%
[05:29] <cryptopsy> it never moves on to the next file
[05:29] <judgex_> n ##OpenGL
[05:29] <trihope> escott: yeah, it's not showing up in the list. do I need to do some sort of restart for the program?
[05:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: Any suggestions for making w7 boot and install?
[05:29] <Maahes_> anyone know if there is a way to have another user use your keyring?
[05:29] <escott> trihope, you could try logging out and back in just in case
[05:29] <vahnx> anyone here play runescape?
[05:30] <ahmedhelal> hello in 10.10 after installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu, when kdm loads i end up with a console screen without a border or title bar, and nothing else loads.. any idea ? (clean installation)
[05:30] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic you mean make sa bootable usb from a win7 iso?
[05:30] <trihope> escott: will do
[05:30] <vahnx> they brought back the wilderness and PKing recently ima go pking instead of netflix
[05:30] <escott> trihope, if you are running kde or kubuntu then gnome panel applets wont work
[05:30] <Maahes_> basically I want all users on the machine to be able to use the same wireless password keyring.
[05:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: that would work. I can't get it to boot from the DVD for some reason.
[05:31] <trihope> escott: nope, gnome i'm pretty sure
[05:31] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic i would check in #windows. ive heard that you can dd the win7 iso to a flash and boot it.. but never tried.
[05:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: correction, it boots, but it fails during the exact same part of installation
[05:31] <ahmedhelal> escott: any idea ?
[05:31] <escott> ahmedhelal, idea about what? sorry
[05:31] <ahmedhelal> escott: in 10.10 after installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu, when kdm loads i end up with a console screen without a border or title bar, and nothing else loads.. any idea ? (clean installation)
[05:32] <_vader89> is there a way to install ubuntu and then make it run the setup wizard on first boot? I would like to install ubuntu on a new computer, give it away and have the new owner choose locale and username on first boot.
[05:32] <dr_Willis> !oem
[05:32] <Telroth> Anyone know how to force-stop a raid array?
[05:32] <escott> ahmedhelal, do you mean console like kdm failed?
[05:32] <dr_Willis> i thought the OEM install optioon did that.
[05:32] <_vader89> perfect. thankyou
[05:32] <vahnx> why doesnt the default ubutnu come with gparted :(
[05:32] <Telroth> Namely, a mdadm array? `sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md127 --force` isn't working
[05:33] <vahnx> has it on the live disc but not once installed
[05:33] <ahmedhelal> escott: no, its Konsole, just a terminal open with kde background
[05:33] <hiexpo> the oem does
[05:33] <ahmedhelal> escott: but seems like window decorator didnt load
[05:33] <m-droid> kill -9
[05:33] <escott> ahmedhelal, the window manager didn't start
[05:33] <ahmedhelal> escott: i tried kde-window-decorator --replace   but it seems like it wasnt install,  so am installing now compiz-kde
[05:33] <ahmedhelal> escott: seems like i missed alot, i only used sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install kde
[05:34] <ahmedhelal> thought that should do it
[05:34] <escott> ahmedhelal, sounds like a borked kde install :)
[05:34] <Telroth> m-droid: sudo kill -9 `pidof md127_raid5` silently does nothing.
[05:34] <hasek79> can osx and ubuntu be installed side by side on a mac without making a windows partition?
[05:34] <dr_Willis> hasek79:  why would sa windows partition be needed at all?
[05:35] <ahmedhelal> escott: yeah , although i googled and found that its the same step to install kde :S
[05:35] <hasek79> i thought you had to
[05:35] <izinucs> hasek79: maybe with parallels
[05:35] <dr_Willis> a normal Uninstall dosen tneed a windows parition. so why would installng on a mac matter?
[05:35] <hasek79> i was just wanting to choose between ubuntu and osx
[05:35] <escott> hasek79, since most linux
[05:35] <hasek79> when starting up
[05:36] <dr_Willis> windows dosent figure into it as far as i know hasek79
[05:36] <escott> hasek79, since most linux (including ubuntu) use bios to boot and osx uses its variant of efi you would tell parallels and other apps you are planning on installing windows and then install ubuntu (when ubuntu is not an option)
[05:36] <badriyah> HEO
[05:36] <trihope> escott: still not seeing it. both synaptic and ubuntu software center show it's installed but not showing up when I right click the panel.
[05:37] <hasek79> but can you install linux  as a dual boot?
[05:37] <ahmedhelal> escott: wow, seems like window decorator crashes, and its not a broken installation or so
[05:37] <ahmedhelal> i get Seg Fault
[05:38] <lxd> ?
[05:38] <hasek79> like if you would to do it a a pc you get a boot loader to choose between linux or windows
[05:38] <mjw3763__> exit
[05:38] <dr_Willis> !mac
[05:38] <vahnx> how do u make urself the owner of all files in ubuntu
[05:38] <Telroth> You don't.
[05:38] <dr_Willis> vahnx why do you wan tto do that?
[05:39] <hiexpo> root is the owner
[05:39] <vahnx> i installed ubuntu ontop of slackware now i have /home/home
[05:39] <Telroth> That'll screw up a number of programs, and cause the system not to work.
[05:39] <html_inprogress> HAPPY easter
[05:39] <vahnx> i want to remove folders in /home but it wont let me
[05:39] <dr_Willis> vahnx set proper ownership and perissions on the files
[05:39] <dr_Willis> as the root user;
[05:39] <vahnx> and how do i do that
[05:39] <vahnx> k
[05:39] <Telroth> with chmod and chown
[05:39] <escott> trihope, not sure what the problem is/but its getting late here home someone can help
[05:39] <dr_Willis> !permissions
[05:39] <vahnx> like chmod 777 / ?
[05:39] <Telroth> nuuuu
[05:39] <Telroth> that'll break the system
[05:40] <dr_Willis> vahnx i would read and learn what permissions DO first...
[05:40] <vahnx> r w e
[05:40] <Telroth> Many programs require very specific permissions
[05:40] <dr_Willis> you dont want to 777 everything.. thats just.. well.. going to break things
[05:40] <Telroth> and will refuse to run if they are not set properly
[05:40] <Telroth> you should only change what you absolutely need to change
[05:40] <vahnx> ima just wipe the drive and make sure slackwares gone for good this time
[05:40] <vahnx> as if it kept all old files
[05:41] <trihope> USB indicator applet for panel not showing up after install, can anybody help?
[05:41] <vahnx> and wont let me delete em from ubuntu
[05:41] <Telroth> vahnx: where are they in ubuntu?
[05:41] <dr_Willis> vahnx with root/sudo you can...
[05:41] <vahnx> in ubuntu all the files from the old /home appeared in / in ubuntu
[05:41] <vahnx> slackwares /home got scattered to / in ubuntu
[05:41] <Telroth> so just a few user folders?
[05:42] <dr_Willis> now thsat could be an issue
[05:42] <vahnx> yeah ill just wipe it, easier than going through each file
[05:42] <vahnx> determining which is from my slackware
[05:42] <vahnx> etc.
[05:42] <Telroth> if you know the usernames
[05:42] <Telroth> and they don't collide with ubuntu folders
[05:42] <Telroth> you can probably delete them and move on.
[05:43] <badriyah> tas
[05:43] <html_inprogress> dr_Willis,  whats the command for ubuntu gui?
[05:43] <dr_Willis> html_inprogess you mean 'startx' ?
[05:43] <dr_Willis> or sudo service gdm start
[05:43] <Telroth> for example, if you absolutely know benj89 is a user from slack, then you can `sudo rm -rf /benj89`
[05:44] <ahmedhelal> hello, i tried to install kde using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on 10.10 ubuntu, however after restart i ended up with konsole opened with no borders (no decorators) and kde didnt load, however typing startkde magically opens kde and everything loads normally.. any idea ?
[05:44] <Telroth> But be absolutely sure that's not a folder that ubuntu needs
[05:44] <html_inprogress> whats the difference?
[05:44] <Telroth> and be very, very careful.
[05:44] <dr_Willis> one starts the gdm service.. other just starts up X.
[05:44] <vahnx> tomorrows gonna be a rough day at work -__- its already like 1am
[05:44] <html_inprogress> i just want to reinstall the gui... it was a night mare when i changed it
[05:45] <dr_Willis> what exactly did you change html_inprogress
[05:45] <html_inprogress> i got a mix of xp and ubuntu looks
[05:46] <vahnx> try the System -> Appearance tab
[05:46] <dr_Willis> html_inprogress:  and how did you do that?
[05:46] <Telroth> ahmedhelal: Make sure that kdm is correctly set as your desktop manager instead of gdm.
[05:47] <ahmedhelal> Telroth: how should i ? i choosed kdm in the installation of kubuntu-desktop packages to be default
[05:48] <Telroth> ahmedhelal: and it shows the kde-themed login dialog when the system starts up?
[05:48] <ahmedhelal> yes
[05:48] <html_inprogress> dr_Willis, http://ubuntu.online02.com/node/14  i didnt finish in time
[05:48] <POOPHAMMER> i hope this install of ubuntu goes better
[05:48] <Telroth> if you go to the login box, look for a session dropdown or an option somewhere that you can pick your window manager, and make sure it's set to KDE
[05:49] <jiltdil> if a group LG has three users A,B.C  and other user "V" from other group want to acess the members of LG group(A,B,C).how to set permission on LG group in one command so "V" can acess all the members of LG group.As i made secondary group of "V" to LG?
[05:49] <dr_Willis> i got no browser to look at thsat right now html_inprogress so cnt read it. :)
[05:49] <vahnx> no browser :O
[05:49] <dr_Willis> ircing from my cell phone
[05:49] <ahmedhelal> Telroth: just check that, it wasnt set to kde, infact nothing was choose, and i choosed kde and it logs in perfectly now, so how to make it choose kde by default  #1? also when it logged it , it popped up a konsole window..  any idea why ? #2
[05:49] <vahnx> cell phone without a browser! =p
[05:50] <hiexpo> trihope, you talking about thedisk mounter applet
[05:50] <POOPHAMMER> i love to use irssi from my cell phone
[05:50] <POOPHAMMER> its the best thing ever
[05:50] <cryptopsy> POOPHAMMER: your name is offensive
[05:50] <dr_Willis> irc client cant just load urls :)
[05:50] <POOPHAMMER> lol
[05:50] <html_inprogress> dr_Willis,  but if it was fully work able  its like having the best of both worlds , when my friends want to use the computer they think its xp
[05:50] <vahnx> haha true enough
[05:50] <cryptopsy> is POOPHAMMER an appropriate name for ubuntu?
[05:50] <vahnx> best solution would be to install xp in a virtual machine if you have a copy of XP
[05:50] <POOPHAMMER> wow really
[05:50] <html_inprogress> and i get stuff done, but i can part/ use part of the screen
[05:50] <cryptopsy> POOPHAMMER: no watch this
[05:50] <tripelb> anyone know how to do a bulletpoint with a simple solid circle (vanilla) in abiword (there's no abiword channel)
[05:50] <dr_Willis> html_inprogress:  one of those  change the theme/look scripts eh? hard to tell what  it does.
[05:50] <trihope> hiexpo: no, usb indicator, to safely remove usb devices
[05:51] <tripelb> I changed my desktop resolution. will it automatically show (looks the same, didnt flash or anything) or what do I do to make it actually happen. must I reboot?  (thanks)
[05:51] <CHRISTHAMMER> POOPHAMMER: see? its alright
[05:51] <POOPHAMMER> cool nickname
[05:51] <Telroth> ahmedhelal: It should default to be the last one that you used (KDE) or whatever you set it to (still KDE); The default behavior when X starts up is to open a terminal window.
[05:51] <POOPHAMMER> im trying an install from CD this time rather than wubi
[05:51] <rww> I keep telling myself not to unban that dolt and I keep unbanning them. I wonder why.
[05:51] <tripelb> when I start a second user things get messed up.  (1) just now having rebooted, loging keyring did not start and give the password. What's this?? I do not understand. (2) If I switch user, I cant shut the second user down. Coputer goes to blank screen with no recovery I can figure out. (Hardbooted was only solution)
[05:51] <html_inprogress> http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1&nord=1#hl=en&pwst=1&nord=1&site=webhp&sa=X&ei=0Py0Te76EYKitge87czpDg&ved=0CBUQvwUoAQ&q=xpgnome&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2ec23705adf4e555&ion=1
[05:51] <vahnx> isnt there a file you can edit to change the default gdm/kdm etc.
[05:52] <hasek79> is there a way to clean up my grub screen? every time i update it adds a new i guess you could call it link for ubuntu so now i have like 10 for ubuntu and 2 for windows and i only use the most current one
[05:52] <hiexpo> trihope, are the usb'snot mounted on the desktop when you mount them
[05:52] <Telroth> vahnx: yes, somewhere. I'm not sure off of the top of my head.
[05:52] <dr_Willis> vahnx sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:52] <POOPHAMMER> i really hope this doesnt mess up my MBR this time
[05:52] <tripelb> hasek79, I see that too.
[05:52] <html_inprogress>  go to the first one in the list and thats it
[05:52] <trihope> actually, I haven't tried mounting any
[05:53] <html_inprogress> dont INSTALL
[05:53] <hasek79> ya all i want to 2 for ubuntu and 2 for windows
[05:53] <vahnx> hey is it possible to configure an irc server to take text say over 255 chars, convert it to a pastebin link and paste it instead. just wondering
[05:53] <trihope> hiexpo: sorry, haven't tried using any usb's, I just thought it would be nice to have an applet for quick safe removal
[05:53] <hasek79> i dont need all the other ones
[05:53] <hiexpo> ubuntu will auto mount devices and it will put an icon on the desktop to remove it just right click it and safely remove
[05:53] <tripelb> I put in a new (old) drive. I want to copy what's on it to my main drive. But I dont have permission. And if I boot to that user, then I cant even see my main drive. I can only see that user, and all the windows partitions on my drives. ARG
[05:53] <POOPHAMMER> i hope this install goes past configuring hardware this time
[05:53] <Telroth> vahnx: You'd have to download the source of one and build a module for it.
[05:54] <vahnx> ah i see.
[05:54] <Telroth> But  yes, you could if you're willing to write the code yourself.
[05:54] <POOPHAMMER> it locked up at generating /boot/initrd.im etc last time
[05:54] <trihope> yeah, guess I was more wondering why it wasn't showing up after install though
[05:54] <Starminn> Any idea whether or not GNOME Shell will ever be stable for Ubuntu 10.10?
[05:54] <vahnx> didnt they get rid of it for 11.04
[05:54] <vahnx> or is the new one an overlay on gnome
[05:55] <Starminn> vahnx: *sigh* What are you talking about?
[05:55] <vahnx> unity...
[05:55] <vahnx> is it a window manager that sits ontop of gnome?
[05:55] <Starminn> vahnx: Unity is a Shell on top of GNOME 2. something
[05:55] <tripelb> POOPHAMMER, I hope so too. are you putting it on the same physical drive?
[05:55] <rww> Starminn: GNOME 3 isn't going to happen for 10.10.
[05:55] <hiexpo> it's not the gnome shell
[05:55] <Starminn> vahnx: And "Gnome 3" you've got Gnome Shell. http://gnome3.org/
[05:55] <POOPHAMMER> well i made a partition, 30 GB
[05:56] <POOPHAMMER> its on a dif drive
[05:56] <tripelb> I had no problems POOPHAMMER when I installed ubntu
[05:56] <POOPHAMMER> well when i popped debian on there GRUB messed up my MBR's world
[05:56] <POOPHAMMER> could not load into win7 at all
[05:56] <Starminn> rww: So they're just abandoniing it in favor of 11.04? I thought that would be the case, I just wanted to see if there would be any glimmer of hope while I wait a few weeks before adopting something so potentially buggy. :)
[05:56] <vahnx> gnome 3 looks like a step in the right direction ;D
[05:56] <tripelb> poophammer that sounds even easier. vanilla. -- dont even mention ubuntu. I dont know about debian.
[05:57] <trihope> simple question - tried running "apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra" but it says I need root, what step did I miss?
[05:57] <iRabbit> rm -rf /
[05:57] <rww> Starminn: If you want the latest and greatest shiny stuff, you need to upgrade every six months, yes.
[05:57] <Starminn> trihope: sudo apt-get .....
[05:57] <rww> iRabbit: I don't recommend saying commands like that in here.
[05:57] <tripelb> irabbit, what's that?
[05:57] <trihope> Starminn:  thanks
[05:57] <POOPHAMMER> seems like ubuntu is locking up at the same part as last :/
[05:57] <tripelb> yes rww I was trying to call attention to this potential problem. It seems like this kind of consciousness is a danger to someone.
[05:57] <iRabbit> tripelb, something you don't want to type
[05:57] <Starminn> rww: Your suggested wait time between new releases? I know it's gone through alphas, betas, etc., but nonetheless, are they usually usable on a daily basis on release day?
[05:58] <Starminn> trihope: "Sudo" allows you to run as "Root" or the "superuser" (basically, the god on your machine)
[05:58] <tripelb> personally irabbit, I'd boot you with no explain for typing that.
[05:58] <tripelb> like a bot
[05:58] <dr_Willis> I often wait a week or 3 befor installing a new release. theres often bug fixs that come out real quick after release
[05:58] <vahnx> i love how people claim that sudo is bad and u should never use it
[05:58] <rww> Starminn: I usually recommend upgrading a month or so after release. Gives the servers time to cool down and the bug-fixing people time to fix any bugs that get uncovered.
[05:58] <vahnx> always run as "su"/root
[05:58] <iRabbit> tripelb, oh c'mon have a sense of humor
[05:59] <POOPHAMMER> sudo is only bad when you use bad commands with it :P
[05:59] <vahnx> but then again so is su
[05:59] <rww> iRabbit: Allow me to rephrase. The next time you utter a dangerous command like that in here, you will be removed from the channel. It is not funny.
[05:59] <tripelb> irabbit off topic
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> vahnx: sudo is great
[05:59] <tripelb> <3 rww (offtopic)
[05:59] <vahnx> yeah i like sudo but so many hardcore linux fanatics are against it... well many i met
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> vahnx: su is great, its one of Linuxes great powers as it is a true multiuser OS
[05:59]  * tripelb boots tripleb
[06:00] <Starminn> rww: That's what I was planning on. 3-4 weeks. Alright, thanks. Do you know if Gnome3 still breaks Unity? (I know this is a little OT but this is the only question I have about it.)
[06:00] <jiltdil> if a group LG has three users A,B.C  and other user "V" from other group want to acess the members of LG group(A,B,C).how to set permission on LG group in one command so "V" can acess all the members of LG group.As i made secondary group of "V" to LG?
[06:00]  * POOPHAMMER sighs
[06:00] <rww> Starminn: I haven't tried it. Someone in #ubuntu+1 might know.
[06:00] <dr_Willis> thers more to 'sudo' then just runnng suff as root :)
[06:00] <POOPHAMMER> looks like i just wont be able to install ununtu
[06:00] <POOPHAMMER> :|
[06:00] <Starminn> rww: Alright, thanks. :)
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: are you having install issues?
[06:01] <POOPHAMMER> yeah
[06:01] <vahnx> ubuntu is a pain to install
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[06:01] <vahnx> i made 3 diff bottable usbs diff times, third time worked
[06:01] <POOPHAMMER> mhmm
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> vahnx: its one of the simplest distros to install, try installing Gentoo
[06:01] <iRabbit> vahx, how so?
[06:01] <hiexpo> ubuntu is the easiest one to install
[06:01] <vahnx> i mean the install process to usb
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: what does that mean?
[06:01] <iRabbit> vahnx, how so?
[06:01] <POOPHAMMER> it means yes
[06:01] <dr_Willis> rarely have issues installing ubuntu here. Ive had more issues with differnt age pcs and differnt usb flash drives  then ubuntu being at fault
[06:01] <POOPHAMMER> i checked the hash
[06:01] <vahnx> tried unetbootin in windows, tried dd
[06:02] <vahnx> needs to be a persistant install or w/e
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: can you please use ENGLISH in replys, it speeds things up
[06:02] <dr_Willis> You can setup a grub2 usb - and boot iso files also :)
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: did you test your RAM?
[06:02] <POOPHAMMER> yep
[06:02] <vahnx> grub 2 boots hackintosh into verbose :(
[06:02] <POOPHAMMER> i never have issues with any other linux distro
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: are you using a CD to install, or USB?
[06:02] <POOPHAMMER> CD
[06:03] <hiexpo> whatversion
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: did you burn the CD as slowly as you were allowed and did you make the CD test itself when it started to boot?
[06:03] <POOPHAMMER> 10.10 AMD 64 desktop
[06:04] <POOPHAMMER> the cd is only a 4x and that is what it burned at, and i was given no option to test it that i saw, it verified at the end of burn and the MD5 matched up
[06:04] <POOPHAMMER> it always locks up on update-inimramfs generating /boot/initrd.im.6.35-22-generic
[06:04] <clu3> which java should i use for running eclipse guys? open jdk or java sun?
[06:05] <POOPHAMMER> tried 3 burns and wubi with no prevail
[06:05] <POOPHAMMER> always stops there
[06:05] <vahnx> im not a fan of sun but they do their java good
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: on the same screen as the ram test you can check the CD for consistency too
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> clu3: if you need the extra features in the sun java, use sun
[06:06] <hasek79> will i be able to run system update to upgrade to ubuntu 11?
[06:06] <POOPHAMMER> im thinking about just giving up on ubuntu and going with windows and staying there and sticking with debian on my server
[06:06] <POOPHAMMER> never ever had any luck wih ubuntu
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> POOPHAMMER: whatever you desire
[06:07] <iRabbit> Hey when I click on start and right click on my computer it doesn't tell me my version number.. whats the deal?
[06:07] <POOPHAMMER> is the step i am on supposed to take forever or something?
[06:07] <dr_Willis> start?
[06:07] <allorder> POOPHAMMER: why you dont use debian testing/sid on it or why you dont try another distro
[06:07] <rww> iRabbit: I think you got lost on the way to ##windows
[06:07] <Starminn> iRabbit: "My Computer"? Just System->Administration->System Monitor
[06:08] <POOPHAMMER> because i always hear wonderful things about ubuntu but never get to try it
[06:08] <POOPHAMMER> any time i do it just tars out on me
[06:08] <POOPHAMMER> *tards
[06:08] <dr_Willis> sounds like some weird hardware/issue/bug to me poophammer.
[06:08] <danielitosj> hello everbody
[06:08] <danielitosj> I had a problem installing 10.04 and 10.10
[06:09] <danielitosj> Related to partitions not aligned to cylinders
[06:09] <POOPHAMMER> i might just go back to centos for linux idk
[06:09] <Inumedia> Anyone know of any settings in X that changes how fast a touchpad will move the mouse?  Not the overall speed but horizontal vs vertical speed.
[06:09] <centHOGG> heh
[06:09] <POOPHAMMER> kinda irritating to get this going
[06:09] <danielitosj> Gparted-server dies
[06:09] <allorder> POOPHAMMER: centos for a desktop ?!
[06:09] <POOPHAMMER> yeah i used to use it on my old PC
[06:09] <POOPHAMMER> old celeron rig
[06:09] <allorder> POOPHAMMER: try archlinux maybe :P
[06:09] <dr_Willis> poophammer - you could move the HD to a differnt box. install , then move itback.
[06:10] <POOPHAMMER> lol arch
[06:10] <allorder> ?
[06:10] <POOPHAMMER> i didnt really liek arch
[06:10] <POOPHAMMER> i think im just going to go back to centos
[06:11] <allorder> ok, goodbye
[06:11] <POOPHAMMER> later
[06:11] <iRabbit> so like... I'm trying to setup a static route in /etc/hostname.vlan344  ... 10.12.24.88 netmask 255.255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.12.24.255 vlan 1028 em3... so like !route add -net 192.168.23.0/24 10.10.12.1? right?
[06:11] <centHOGG> heh
[06:11] <danielitosj> The only solution I found is resizing the problematic partition
[06:11] <POOPHAMMER> lets just hope my MBR didnt get messed up this time
[06:11] <danielitosj> Does anybody know if this issue is being solved in 11.04????
[06:11] <POOPHAMMER> lol
[06:11] <ohzie> archlinux is pretty fantastic in a lot of ways, but their community is pretty terribad imo. =(
[06:11] <ohzie> ubuntu <3
[06:12] <allorder> ohzie: ?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> danielitosj: ask in #ubuntu+1 for natty stuff
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: check xpud. It's groovy :)
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> boots in seconds
[06:14] <dr_Willis> tiny core linux :)
[06:14] <hiexpo> or puppy
[06:15] <centHOGG> USB Stik Distros
[06:15] <dr_Willis> i tend to avoid puppy these days :)
[06:15] <hiexpo> dr_Willis, how come
[06:15] <iRabbit> anyone ^
[06:16] <dr_Willis> spent more time figureing out puppys quirks then using it..
[06:16] <hiexpo> dr_Willis, oh  hehe
[06:16] <ohzie> I just threw 10.10 on a HP G72. I'm kind of excited. It's screen is so pretty. On the forums, people were having sound issues in 10.04, but there was an easy fix. I haven't had to do it yet. Everything's so far out-of-the-box. Even the SD-card reader. :D
[06:16] <centHOGG> like installation quirks?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY1xAiNnPTc&feature=related fast
[06:17] <dr_Willis> Puppy just seems layer upon layer of qick little hacks, and weirdness compared to other 'normal' distros
[06:18] <dr_Willis> Ill stick to Lubuntu for my low end box's
[06:18] <centHOGG> concur
[06:18] <hiexpo> xpud that was pretty fast
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: lots
[06:19] <hiexpo> the only had time to say about 7 chineese words and it was booted
[06:20] <hiexpo> 7 seconds
[06:21] <joelcnz> I'm trying to update my ubuntu to use 3rd party stuff for them to work in my programs.
[06:23] <YankDownUnder> joelcnz, Um...can you elaborate? Cuz it's easy enough to install the "restricted" extras...
[06:25] <joelcnz> I've edited the sources.list. I've been trying to follow in this web page: http://wiki.allegro.cc/index.php?title=Install_Allegro5_From_SVN/Linux/Debian
[06:25] <iRabbit> is it possible to run Ubuntu with Cascade Linux on multiple VMs?
[06:25] <Inumedia> Anyone know of any settings in X that changes how fast a touchpad will move the mouse?  Not the overall speed but horizontal vs vertical speed.
[06:27] <hiexpo> Inumedia, you on ubuntu ?
[06:27] <Inumedia> Maverick.
[06:27] <iRabbit> pew pew
[06:27] <Inumedia> I'm using a synaptic touchpad.
[06:27] <hiexpo> don't you have mouse in prefs
[06:28] <hiexpo> oh
[06:28] <Inumedia> I do.  But nothing pertaining to what I want to change,.
[06:28] <shoeless> Hey! Does anyone have any experience compiling GNU Octave for Ubuntu?
[06:28] <hiexpo> pointer speed acceleration
[06:28] <Flannel> shoeless: Why are you trying to compile it?
[06:28] <Inumedia> hiexpo: That effects the overall acceleration.  Not vertical vs horizontal.
[06:29] <hiexpo> Inumedia, oh yes
[06:29] <shoeless> Flannel: I need the latest version for the predator OpenTLD Project.  Latest is 3.4.0, latest deb in the repos is 3.2.x
[06:29] <Inumedia> I need something that pertains to vertical vs horizontal.
[06:29] <iRabbit> Cascade Linux + Ubuntu..... jury still out on if you can run multiple VMs with Ubuntu?
[06:29] <hiexpo> probally in config file
[06:30] <Inumedia> xorg.conf has nothing pertaining to my touchpad settings.
[06:30] <shoeless> Flannel: My main question is that make fails because it can't find texi2dvi, even though it is installed on my system.  I'm wondering if adding the --disable-docs string to configure will fix me up.
[06:31] <jtannenbaum> ok so I'd really like to know how to get rid of this: http://i.imgur.com/g7rFp.png I've tired booting to a previous kernel but nothing fixes these bugs
[06:31] <Inumedia> It gets fixed when I change it to get interpreted as a PS2 mouse instead of a touchpad.  But then I lose my scrolling ability.
[06:31] <shoeless> Flannel: I'm compiling now, so its not critical, but it takes upwards of a couple hours to compile on my machine, so I was just curious.
[06:31] <hiexpo> there is an x y config i have seen it before on early distro i think 9.10
[06:32] <YankDownUnder> Not sure with the mouse bit, but have you tried editing the xorg.conf?
[06:33] <iRabbit> modprobe ftw
[06:33] <hiexpo> texidvi-dev
[06:33] <Inumedia> I did modprobe
[06:33] <Inumedia> But then I lost my scrolling ability.
[06:34] <Inumedia> And like I said
[06:34] <Inumedia> xorg.conf has nothing pertaining to my touchpad or any input devices.
[06:34] <shoeless> hiexpo: That provides it?
[06:34] <hiexpo> yes
[06:34] <shoeless> hiexpo: Its already present on my system from a texinfo install, make just won't recognize it.
[06:34] <Inumedia> When I used modprobe, it fixed the issue, but created another issue which was equally as bad.
[06:35] <hiexpo> shoeless, you have texidvi-dev installed
[06:35] <YankDownUnder> Have you installed the "Synaptics Touchpad Utility" and mucked around with it, yet? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad)
[06:35] <dr_Willis> its posible you could add some lines to xorg to try to fix things. but its hard to tell. touchpad stuff in X has changed so much over the last few releases
[06:36] <shoeless> hiexpo: Er, no, but it doesn't show up in an aptitude search.
[06:36] <YankDownUnder> (Link above in last statement)
[06:36] <Inumedia> YankDownUnder: One second and I'll try
[06:36] <hiexpo> shoeless, open synaptic and look
[06:36] <iRabbit> what kernel are you using Inumedia? a synaptic touchpad is pretty common and should be in your kernel mods
[06:37] <Inumedia> uname -a = Linux Inumedia-PC 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:38] <shoeless> hiexpo: No package with texidvi-dev as a name, either installed or uninstalled
[06:38] <shoeless> hiexpo: through synaptic and aptitude both
[06:38] <hiexpo> run make again see what it complains shoeless
[06:38] <Inumedia> YankDownUnder: I installed it and when I try to use it in the command line it says it could not open the PS/2 Port.
[06:38] <iRabbit> Inumedia, I'd try updating your kernel, but I've been wrong before
[06:39] <shoeless> hiexpo: doing now, but it takes upwards of a couple hours, so I won't be getting results anytime soon.
[06:39] <joelcnz> I would be interested in updating my OS with non-free turned on. I'm not completely sure if that makes a lot of sence.
[06:39] <Inumedia> I downloaded this and installed it earlier today.  I believe it's the most updated.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Can you reproduce this problem with a stock Ubuntu kernel?
[06:39] <shoeless> hiexpo: I ended up running configure with --disable-docs, as texi2dvi is really only used by the docs (as I understand it)
[06:39] <iRabbit> Inumedia, here is what I'm running: 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:40] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Possibly?  This is literally a fresh install of Maverick.
[06:40] <YankDownUnder> Inumedia, it's most likely not seeing a port that requires a module to load....did you read through all the other bits on the dox site? Like the bit about "Enabling True Multi-touch" and all that jazz?
[06:40] <hiexpo> you sure you spell that right texi2dvi
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Sorry, I misread your uname output.
[06:40] <Inumedia> This laptop is two years old, to my knowledge it should not have multi-touch.
[06:41] <shoeless> hiexpo: Absolutely sure. texi2dvi.  on parallel with texi2html and texi2pdf
[06:41] <mithran> hi all, If i install sunvirtualbox, can i try to install a distribution using LVM? also what would you recommend i use virtualbox or vmware player?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: "Multi touch" touchpads have been common for more than two years. It's just that most Windows users don't know about it.
[06:41] <Thrawn> where could i get new .ogg alert sounds for ubuntu
[06:42] <dr_Willis> mithran - i perfer virtualbox these days
[06:42] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: From the documentation I've read, it's only recently been released from Synaptic since 2010.
[06:42] <iRabbit> Jordan_U, true story
[06:42] <Inumedia> And it's not my concern.
[06:42] <Inumedia> YankDownUnder: My bad, I wasn't running it with sudo
[06:42] <iRabbit> Inumedia, I highly recommend updating your kernel, modprobe, and see if you are still having an issue
[06:42] <hiexpo> shoeless, trying to find it
[06:43] <Inumedia> iRabbit: I'm updating everything currently.  It will take some time.
[06:43] <mithran> can i use LVM to install on virtual box then? can i create 2 vdi files and use them?
[06:43] <Thrawn> where could i get new .ogg alert sounds for ubuntu?
[06:43] <shoeless> hiexpo: try install texinfo, it should drop it into /usr/bin
[06:43] <mithran> dr_Willis ^ that was to you..
[06:43] <iRabbit> Inumedia, kk
[06:43] <dr_Willis> mithran i dont see why you would want to use 2 vdi files.
[06:43] <shoeless> hiexpo: that is, installing the texinfo package should drop texi2dvi into /usr/bin
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> Inumedia, Funny how that works like that :)
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: I have a 4 year old laptop from Dell whose touchpad recognises the difference between 1, 2, and 3, fingers allowing me to among other things scroll by using a three finger drag. Maybe "Multi touch" means something more than that, but what I have described has been available for a long time.
[06:43] <mithran> dr_Willis: so you mean 2 partitions on 1 vdi file?
[06:44] <hiexpo> shoeless, what you trying to compile octave
[06:44] <shoeless> hiexpo: yeah, octave 3.4.0
[06:44] <mithran> i want to emulate 2 disks, to sort of try a raid config
[06:44] <TViYH> what is the swedish channel
[06:44] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Again, multi-touch currently isn't my concern.  I'm more concerned about fixing the cursor speed.
[06:44] <dr_Willis> mithran you could partiton the virutal disks however you want.  but i dont see what you gain by emulateing a raid.
[06:44] <shoeless> hiexpo: the most current in the Ubuntu repos is 3.2.x
[06:44] <rww> TViYH: #ubuntu-se
[06:45] <dr_Willis> mithran if you just want toplay with things.. that could work
[06:45] <hiexpo> shoeless, what version ubuntu you on
[06:45] <YankDownUnder> Inumedia, Just for giggles and grins, have you checked out the settings in the Mouse control utility in your Preferences menu?
[06:45] <Inumedia> Yes.
[06:45] <Inumedia> Multiple times.
[06:45] <mithran> dr_Willis: Im sorry i think my concept is all wrong...i think i just realized...m intention is to try to install on software raid...i can use the distros LVM install option to do that right?
[06:46] <shoeless> hiexpo: 10.10
[06:46] <hiexpo> shoeless, oki minute
[06:46] <Inumedia> Along with installing gpointing and checking the settings on that aswell.
[06:46] <dr_Willis> mithran - I tend to keep vbox setups very simple. guess you can try
[06:47] <mithran> dr_Willis: i have only one machine to try it on.. :)
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: When you say "horizontal vs vertical" do you mean that it for instance goes faster left to right than up to down?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> shoeless: what version of octave do you desire?
[06:48] <Inumedia> Yes.
[06:48] <Inumedia> That is exactly what I mean.
[06:48] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: 3.4.0, the most recent stable
[06:49] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Infact, that is word-for-word the way I've been describing it since I tried Lucid for a week and has the same issue.
[06:49] <Jordan_U> mithran: Yes, two virtual hard drives in a virtual machine will work the same as two physical drives in a physical machine for all intents and purposes.
[06:50] <dr_Willis> vbox is fun to play with
[06:50] <Inumedia> argh.  Why does all of the links to Ubuntu.com with https keep timing out?
[06:50] <dr_Willis> inumedia ive heard the site has been down for some today.
[06:51] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Have you got any idea as to what's causing this issue?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> shoeless: I can't find a ppa
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: No.
[06:52] <Inumedia> ;_;
[06:52] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: for octave? yeah, I know.  I'm coming from source here
[06:52] <ashmew2> Hi , Hard disk temperature hitting 45 Degree Celsius , is that something i should be worried about ?
[06:52] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: which is causing me all of this fun (of the Dwarf Fortress variety)
[06:52] <Inumedia> I do believe I'm going to file this as a bug and hopefully get a fix sometime soon.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> shoeless: even natty is using 3.2. Are there significant bug fixes in the newer versions or is it purely extra features?
[06:54] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: it deals with the usage of the tilde as a dummy variable, apparently.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> shoeless: could log a bug, it may get included sooner
[06:54] <mithran> does fedora have an option to install using lvm?
[06:54] <mithran> the default fedora live cd?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: There does appear to be options for this type of compensation though, looking in "man synaptics".
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mithran: fedora isn;t supported here
[06:54] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: I'm installing it as a dep for OpenTLD, an object tracking algo
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mithran: this is ubuntu support ONLY
[06:55] <mithran> ActionParsnip: ok..sorry..
[06:55] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: Included sooner in Ubuntu? Or in Octave?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> shoeless: ubuntu most likely
[06:55] <fisix> is it possible to shrink and install a windows partition besides a linux partition encrypted by ecryptfs?
[06:55] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Option "VertResolution" and Option "HorizResolution". These values will be used to create a ratio (read the man page for a better explanation).
[06:56] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: Sounds good, will do, until then I'm compiling with configure --disable-docs and seeing where that goes.  It takes quite a time to compile though, so no instant results.
[06:56] <dr_Willis> fisix a partition wont matter. unless you are doing somting matter.
[06:56] <Jordan_U> fisix: Yes. (as long as I parsed that sentence correctly and you don't expect the Windows partition to be encrypted with ecryptfs as well).
[06:56] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your help.
[06:56] <Inumedia> Hm
[06:57] <dr_Willis> fisix -  you may want to clarify what you are trying to do.
[06:57] <dr_Willis> (windows) (linux encrypted partition) (swap) (others)
[06:57] <hiexpo> shoeless, looks like there are a lot of issues with this version of octave
[06:58] <fisix> Jordan_U, dr_Willis sorry, that was a bit ambiguous haha. i mean i have an encrypted ubuntu partition right now. i want to shrink it so that i have space to install windows 7. wat do?
[06:58] <shoeless> hiexpo: haha, I'm discovering.  seems that I need this version though.  Its a dependency thing.
[06:59] <Inumedia> Jordna_U: The problem is, nothing relating to my touchpad is in xorg.conf
[06:59] <Inumedia> Where would I look to edit the configuration?
[06:59] <hiexpo> shoeless, octave is a dependency ?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> fisix: ecryptfs works at the file level, so as long as the underlying filesystem can be resized (which it can) you can resize with ecryptfs as well.
[06:59] <shoeless> hiexpo: yeah, for the OpenTLD object trackin algorithm
[06:59] <hiexpo> shoeless, oh ok
[07:00] <fisix> Jordan_U, what do u suggest i use to resize? gparted? or must i go through ecryptfs to resize
[07:00] <Jordan_U> fisix: GParted.
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Create the section yourself.
[07:01] <fisix> Jordan_U, kk, thanks!
[07:01] <Jordan_U> fisix: You're welcome.
[07:01]  * Inumedia has no idea how :P
[07:01] <Inumedia> Well
[07:01] <Inumedia> I have a vague idea I'll look into
[07:02] <shoeless> Can anyone guide me through submitting a bug report requesting the version of a package to be upgraded?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> shoeless: Is there a specific bug / problem fixed by the newer version? Do you want this to be done in a release before 11.10 ?
[07:05] <shoeless> Jordan_U: The newer version is required as a dependency.  It also implements newer features of the software (which is octave). Not necessary, but helpful.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[07:05] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Upon adding the section to xorg.conf, how do I restart X?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Log out then back in again.
[07:05] <Inumedia> k, brb :P
[07:05] <dr_Willis> indumeda  sudo service gdm restart
[07:06] <dr_Willis> logging out may or may not restart the X server
[07:06] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: is that the same process for request of a newer version? Also, because I need the newest version, it isnt installed, and when it is, it won't be an ubuntu provided package.
[07:07] <Jordan_U> !sru | shoeless
[07:09] <shoeless> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[07:09] <shoeless> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[07:09] <hiexpo> Inumedia, might want to look at this also http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint
[07:11] <Inumedia> brb again
[07:15] <Inumedia> relogging again. ;_;
[07:15] <hiexpo> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1267347629.png
[07:17] <jeffizard> hello, i have this pc that is hanging after the pci list. any know how to fix this??
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: i have similar although upload is a bit slower
[07:22] <spaceninja> jeffizard, what do you mean? Explain some more.
[07:22] <Inumedia> Well, that was unsuccessful.
[07:22] <StupidOne> Hello, could anyone tell me how to reinstall grub from a live disc? My master hard drive got formatted and grub didn't get reinstalled.
[07:22] <Inumedia> Although it did break X and made me have to use nano to edit it to work.
[07:22] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Any other ideas? :P
[07:23] <Alien-007> guys just install ubuntu 10.4 LTS on a Gateway and it has a bluetooth icon on F6 but when i go to bluetooth app it says i dont have any device
[07:23] <Jordan_U> StupidOne: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[07:23] <StupidOne> Jordan_U: thanks, I'm looking into it right now
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: No.
[07:23] <Inumedia> Damn.
[07:23] <Alien-007> does the 32 bit vertion has all that ?
[07:24] <Alien-007> im thinking the 64 bit vertion has limits
[07:24] <Alien-007> am i wrong ?
[07:24] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Care to help me get MineCraft working? =D
[07:24] <xanax`> hello
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: I don't have much experience with wine.
[07:25] <Inumedia> It's java.
[07:25] <Inumedia> No need for alcohol :P
[07:25] <Alien-007> is not adobe air for 64bits also
[07:25] <Inumedia> Since it uses coffee ;D
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Interesting. Didn't know that. I guess a game that looks that terrible would have to be Java based ;)
[07:26] <Inumedia> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
[07:26] <StupidOne> q
[07:26] <Inumedia> I tried that command line and it tells me it can't find the main module to load :P
[07:26] <ejv> what's the politically correct way to remove old kernels, my boot partition is nearly full...
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Are you using the Sun JVM?
[07:27] <Inumedia> Jordan_U: Fresh install of Maverick.  I have no idea.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> ejv: Remove the old kernel packages with apt/ Software Center.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Then no.
[07:28] <ilyekkakai> how do I fix pulseaudio so that it does not use 99% of CPU cycles and almost lock up my computer when playing audio?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Install Sun Java From Ubuntu Software Center.
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: Sorry but I need to get some sleep.
[07:29] <ilyekkakai> let me rephrase... How do I stop pulseaudio using up 99% of CPU cycles and almost lock up the computer while it fails to output any sound when playing audio?
[07:29] <Inumedia> Understandable.  Have a good night :P
[07:30] <Inumedia> And thanks for trying to help me.
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: You're welcome.
[07:35] <Inumedia> ohai I got it to work finally.
[07:40] <nelly> hi have problem with Wireless on lenovo b560 b4313
[07:40] <rhizmoe> i need a better gwibber
[07:41] <a7i3n> .quit
[07:42] <desg> night everyone /amsg
[07:45] <nelly> wireles is disabled on ideapad b560
[07:47] <EO_> Doesn't Ubuntu have a non-Kickstart unattended install setup system?  I remember seeing this a while back, but can't find it now.
[07:49] <ruan> i got a black screen.. do i have to restart gdm again?
[07:49] <EO_> ah, preseed!  that's the ticket.
[07:51] <ruan> black screen with just a cursor
[07:51] <ruan> cursor works fine, detects all interfaces, but black screen
[07:53] <chinni009_> hji
[07:55] <mcurran> ruby is a strange tool
[07:56] <pylix> mcurran: the language?
[07:57] <Teeko> anyone use ts3 server on desktop edition?
[07:59] <Teeko> anyone know how to run teamspeak 3 server?
[08:03] <Guest92739> is there adobe air 64Bits ?
[08:03] <whiteserg> ą┐čĆąĖą▓ąĄčé
[08:07] <Dominater> how do i check what version of ubuntu im using on the terminal? i tried uname -a but does not show much info....
[08:08] <Rehan> is there any way to monitor system/cpu temperature in gnome-panel on ubuntu for a laptop?
[08:09] <XceptN> Dominater: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:09] <TimR> Dominater: lsb_release
[08:09] <ruan> !version
[08:09] <TimR> Well, actually, lsb_release -a, or what XceptN said
[08:10] <Dominater> No LSB modules are available
[08:10] <Teeko> does a firewall come with ubuntu? for the life of me i cant find it if so...
[08:11] <ruan> !ufw
[08:11] <ruan> you might want to install gufw in that case
[08:12] <Teeko> thank you
[08:13] <Teeko> so anyone know anything about installing teamspeak3 server?
[08:14] <alien-0o7> guys adobe air is not available for 64 bits,,thats not good
[08:14] <ruan> well you could try installing it with 32bit libs
[08:15] <alien-0o7> ruan:) what you mean,,,force it
[08:16] <ruan> alien-0o7: http://www.jamesward.com/2010/10/14/install-adobe-air-on-64-bit-ubuntu-10-10/
[08:17] <daniel__> hello trying to get my wifi to work i have no idea why it wont i looked at the additional drivers and it says its in use
[08:17] <Rehan> is there any way to monitor system/cpu temperature in gnome-panel on ubuntu for a laptop?
[08:17] <varun> how to change the default splash screen
[08:18] <ruan> !splash
[08:18] <varun> hi all
[08:18] <ashmew2> Rehan : if you want to monitor Hard disk temperatures , use hddtemp
[08:18] <ashmew2> !splash | varun
[08:20] <varun> ubottu tried the gnome splash manager but no success
[08:20] <ashmew2> Rehan : have a look here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375678
[08:20] <ashmew2> Varun : Delhi ?
[08:21] <ermione> lol
[08:21] <varun> ashmew2:  nop ! kerala
[08:21] <Rehan> ashmew2: thanks, i don't think that works with my laptop :/
[08:21] <Rehan> only get acpi temps
[08:21] <ashmew2> varun : kk nice. ,
[08:21] <ashmew2> so what temps you want exactly ? Rehan
[08:22] <varun> ashmew2:  where are you from ?
[08:22] <ruan> !info xsensors
[08:22] <varun> ashmew2: any advice on the splash screen
[08:22] <ashmew2> ashmew2 : MP here
[08:22] <varun> what image type can be used as splash screen
[08:22] <Rehan> ruan: i have xsensors and it works, sees acpitz temp, but i can't get it in the panel and hate having a big box on my screen all the time just to see temp
[08:22] <Rehan> ashmew2: just trying to see cpu temp
[08:23] <ruan> jpg, png, tga?
[08:23] <ashmew2> varun : see this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[08:23] <ruan> Rehan: hmm. it's possible to make an applet..
[08:23] <ashmew2> Rehan : sudo apt-get install computertemp
[08:23] <ashmew2> it can be added to the applets once installed
[08:23] <varun> and dimensions ,will pic of any size work
[08:24] <ruan> though that's more of a last resort
[08:25] <varun> ruan: and dimensions ,will pic of any size work
[08:25] <grechk> hello
[08:25] <ruan> varun: yes
[08:26] <Dominater> when 11.04 comes out can i use gnome 2.3?
[08:26] <ruan> Rehan: computertemp applet seems to work
[08:26] <Rehan> ashmew2: cool that worked! it doesn't theme
[08:26] <Rehan> ruan: yeah i just got it working
[08:27] <varun> ruan: mine is not working
[08:27] <ruan> varun: how large is it
[08:27] <ashmew2> Rehan :)
[08:27] <Rehan> wish it had a matching background but i guess ubuntu users can't be choosers :P
[08:27] <ashmew2> Rehan : if you know programming , you can always make it do that :P
[08:27] <Rehan> haha yeah i don't know programming ashmew2
[08:27] <XceptN> Dominater: 2.30 seems to be available as a separate package and I guess you can install and use it ..
[08:28] <XceptN> and I actually can try that on my beta install ..
[08:28] <ashmew2> Rehan :)
[08:28] <varun> ruan: 640 X 840 32.4 kb
[08:28] <grechk> I have a problem with acpi. I created two scripts, one for and a decrease brightness to increase, but I can not connect them with the hotkey buttons. The script from a terminal work.
[08:28] <varun> ruan: usin gnome-splashscreen-manage but i'm not geting the result
[08:28] <Dominater> XceptN , i hope because i dont like the the new version
[08:29]  * XceptN is curious too - so goes ahead and tries - though it takes time
[08:30] <satya> hello
[08:30] <satya> how to restrict users from deleting files and directories?
[08:30] <ashmew2> satya : you have to set the proper permissions for each user.
[08:30] <Rehan> ruan: ashmew2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1513318
[08:30] <grechk> Then I created the events in the following way, but I do not understand why do not work
[08:30] <grechk> event=sony/hotkey SNC 00000001 00000010
[08:30] <grechk> action=/etc/apci/sonybright.sh
[08:30] <ashmew2> Rehan : hehe you found it :D
[08:31] <grechk> help me, please :)
[08:31] <Rehan> ashmew2: that post is almost a year old, weird that it hasn't been incorporated into the normal version yet
[08:31] <satya> ashmew2: they can have read and write permissions. i want to restrict from deleting
[08:31] <Asmodeus87> Quick question: Would rfkill say anything after $rfkill list all if there was nothing?
[08:32] <gartral> satya: ro delete requires write perms..
[08:32] <ruan> satya: if they can copy, they can replace a file with nothing
[08:32] <gartral> to*
[08:32] <ashmew2> satya: u have to remove the write access
[08:33] <satya> ashmew2: instead removing write permissions, cant we do anything?
[08:34] <ashmew2> satya : well see if you have a file abc.txt...i cant delete it suppose , but i have write access , so i can open abc.txt , remove all the contents inside and save.
[08:34] <Inumedia> Anyone know of any settings in X that changes how fast a touchpad will move the mouse?  Not the overall speed but horizontal vs vertical speed.
[08:34] <ruan> or make an abc.txt that is empty, and copy it to the same dir as abc.txt, replacing it with nothing
[08:34] <Asmodeus87> ashmew2: doing that by accident would be much harder though
[08:34] <moon__>  /list
[08:35] <ashmew2> Asmodeus87: removing files *by mistake* is easy ?
[08:35] <satya> ashmew2: i know it. just i want to restrict the users from deleting
[08:35] <alien-0o7> is there a command to make my bluetoth work ?
[08:35] <Asmodeus87> ashmew2: Well, no. But it's still way more likely;)
[08:36] <litropy> Hi, peeps. Help me partition correctly, please. I'm in the livecd install. I want to leave my main partition untouched and use the free space for my ubuntu partition. How do I do this, and where should I set the root file system?
[08:36] <ashmew2> Asmodeus87 : yeah well i cant deny that :D
[08:36] <ashmew2> ok satya : have a look : http://www.betamaster.us/blog/?p=271
[08:36] <satya> ashmew2: 0kay
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I'm trying to set up a password less login for into my ubuntu server. I am able to login fine. However I get disconnected *immediately*. Any idea why this is happening or how to debug?
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> thanks
[08:37] <ruan> you could also make all 'write' changes require approval
[08:37] <ruan> or backup beforehand.
[08:38] <ruan> Captain_Haddock: auth.log? any place that logs connections
[08:38] <devilirium> litropy: You would do that in the advanced section of the partitioning, andd  you would give the mount point of '/' to your root. Also make sure to create a swap partition. For more details on this topic, please use the mighty Goggle =)
[08:38] <ashmew2> Captain_Haddock: how did u set it up for auto login ?
[08:39] <alien-0o7> my pc is telling me i dont have a bluetooth evice on it but there is build in
[08:39] <ruan> Captain_Haddock: also, what type of connection
[08:39] <Captain_Haddock> ashmew2: I copied the public key to the authorized_hosts file. SSH.
[08:39] <XceptN> Dominater: It is indeed possible - Install Gnome 2.30 and use "Ubuntu Classic" at GDM logon
[08:40] <Captain_Haddock> ashmew2: I can connect fine as root and stay logged in. When I log in without a password as user FOO, I log in fine and then get booted.
[08:40] <devilirium> alien-0o7: I guess your system doesn't realize about its existence then. You should install the correct driver for it.
[08:41] <Dominater> XceptN , thanks for the info :)
[08:41] <None0> satya: put file in root-owned folder, chown it to user. then user can edit but not remove
[08:43] <Laurencesm> I installed AssaultCube game and I have only 35 fps. On windows i have 200. Do I need to install drivers or something? (I am new to Linux)
[08:44] <lo0m> Laurencesm:  do you have any proprietary drivers installed? nvidia/ati?
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> ashmew2: any ideas?
[08:45] <Laurencesm> No, I didn't install anything. I have radeon x1600.
[08:45] <Laurencesm> Yea, probably have to install
[08:45] <c4rz> did you get the restriceted extras yet?
[08:45] <ruan> D!binarydrivers
[08:45] <ruan> !binarydrivers
[08:46] <ruan> i have no idea how that D got there
[08:46] <ashmew2> Captain_Haddock : dont really have experiences with servers...maybe you could install gnome or something and investigate it with the GUI using PutTy or TeamViewer ?
[08:46] <Captain_Haddock> ashmew2: no worries, thanks
[08:47] <vivek> hi
[08:48] <ashmew2> Captain_Haddock : wish i could help more  , hang in there , you'll find someone more skilled :)
[08:48] <Captain_Haddock> ashmew2: thanks man :)
[08:48] <alien-0o7> what driver do i need to make my bluetooth work ?
[08:49] <Laurencesm> also, I have another problem. When I switch to CLI, I can't switch back. I press ctrl+alt+f7 and ... i don't know what happens. Keyboard does not work, i press caps lock and no lights
[08:49] <mysteriousdarren> sorry to chime in late but that would work
[08:49] <vivek> help guys
[08:49] <Captain_Haddock> alien-0o7: if it doesn't work out of the box, you might need a non-free/proprietary/restricted driver.
[08:50] <vivek> how can i configure network on ubuntu
[08:50] <vivek> manually
[08:50] <ruan> !network
[08:50] <vivek> ok
[08:50] <ruan> what type of network
[08:50] <vivek> lan
[08:50] <Captain_Haddock> ethernet?
[08:50] <vivek> yes
[08:50] <alien-0o7> no propietary drivers found
[08:51] <vivek> how can i configure through cmd
[08:51] <c4rz> it should connect by it self
[08:51] <Captain_Haddock> alien-0o7: what laptop?
[08:51] <ruan> vivek: ifconfig
[08:51] <vivek> ok
[08:51] <visual1ce> hi
[08:52] <alien-0o7> is a M-series gateway Captain_Haddock
[08:52] <vivek> hey guys anybody of you run Gnacktrack
[08:52] <vivek> RC-4
[08:52] <ruan> no idea waht that is
[08:52] <DND> ickserv identify passw0rd
[08:53] <ruan> *what
[08:53] <vivek> ITS new ubuntu o
[08:53] <vivek> ss
[08:53] <vivek> os
[08:53] <ruan> natty is being released in 3 days
[08:53] <jkr801> Just have a quick question if anyone knows how to get a UI off of sshing into a 10.10 box.... usually the built in VNC starts but didnt this time
[08:53] <ankgui> join #ubuntu-in
[08:53] <vivek> search gnacktrack on google
[08:53] <vivek> its a good od
[08:53] <vivek> os
[08:54] <vivek> and wine is preinstalled in it
[08:54] <visual1ce> im using cups and splix with a samsung scx-4521f. when i do lp -o number-up=2 number-up-layout=lrtb "test.pdf" (test.pdf has 2 pages) i get weird result - the first page is printed on half of one side of the paper but the second page is printed perpendicular in the bottom half of this page
[08:54] <ruan> this is an ubuntu support channel though
[08:55] <jkr801> or if anyone knows how to start the built in vnc daemon via ssh and unlock the keychain that would work too...
[08:55] <visual1ce> this only happens with some pdfs though
[08:55] <visual1ce> very weird...
[08:55] <visual1ce> driving me nuts
[08:55] <Captain_Haddock> alien-0o7: I would recommend that you try the natty livecd (when it comes out). Your bluetooth might be detected there. Else, you will need to manually identify the chipset being used and try to locate drivers for it. Not pleasant work, I'm afraid :|
[08:56] <alien-0o7> natty live cd,the new ubuntu
[08:56] <c4rz> yea
[08:56] <Captain_Haddock> alien-0o7: you're using it already?
[08:57] <alien-0o7> Captain_Haddock:) nop 10.4 LTS 64 Bits
[08:57] <wjd86> Hello, i recently tried to install fallout 3 using a tutorial from wineHQ... im still showing errors if anyone wouldnt mind checking it out for me; http://pastebin.com/qtq545Y7
[08:57] <alien-0o7> im about to switch to 32 bits
[08:57] <Captain_Haddock> alien-0o7: roger that
[08:57] <visual1ce> 32 bits flash works better
[08:57] <Walex2> wjd86: you need to install the Microsoft C runtime libraries
[08:58] <Captain_Haddock> ok, time to go
[08:58] <Captain_Haddock> later
[08:58] <ruan> wjd86: put the MSVCP90.dll in fallout 3's directory
[08:59] <wjd86> Walex2: sh winetricks directx9 vcrun2005  thought that included libs :/
[08:59] <wjd86> k
[08:59] <ruan> wjd86: http://www.dll-files.com/msvcp90.zip?0WMfU0bFiS
[09:00] <vivek> hi
[09:00] <vivek> everybody
[09:00] <wjd86> will i need to manually add that to wine's lib and make it native?
[09:00] <devilirium> wjd86: i dont think that its a good idea to run winetricks as a super user
[09:00] <Walex2> wjd86: 'vcrun2005' is a bit old, follow <ruan>'s link
[09:00] <vivek> hey telll me yar how to install tar files
[09:00] <ruan> wjd86: just put the DLL in fallout3's directory
[09:01] <vivek> ok
[09:01] <vivek> then
[09:01] <wjd86> no idea what im doing aside from following directions: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322
[09:01] <wjd86> kk will do ruan
[09:01] <vivek> i hate tar balls
[09:01] <ruan> vivek: extract the contents to a folder
[09:01] <vivek> hi
[09:02] <vivek> ok
[09:02] <jkr801> anyone know about using X over ssh?
[09:02] <ruan> jkr801: ssh -X?
[09:02] <jkr801> yup
[09:02] <incidence> jkr801: Yea?
[09:02] <jkr801> and why it wouldn't forward
[09:03] <jkr801> my vnc threw up on reboot so now i only have ssh into the box how do i get extract the screen with ssh somehow?
[09:03] <wjd86> ruan: thanks man, it worked
[09:03] <jiltdil> vivek: to extract tar -xvf foo.tar
[09:03] <ruan> wjd86: np, enjoy
[09:03] <jkr801> I have x11forwarding to yes in my sshd conf
[09:03] <jkr801> i donno what else to do :(
[09:04] <ruan> !sshd
[09:06] <jkr801> when i do ssh -X i van even get the xclock to load is there something to get the whole screen up?
[09:07] <Fleck> i have Driver "radeon" in my xorg.conf - when i go to minecraft.net and go to different portals - xorg/radeon driver crashes - badly, need to reset PC with button... anyone have the same problem?
[09:07] <iceroot> jkr801: nx and vnc
[09:08] <jkr801> hmmm iceroot ?
[09:08] <iceroot> jkr801: ssh -x cant get the whole screen, you have to use nx or vnc to get the full screen from the other pc
[09:08] <iceroot> !vnc | jkr801
[09:08] <iceroot> !freenx | jkr801
[09:09] <jkr801> can that be started via ssh?
[09:09] <phonex01> guys im trying to update my ubuntu but i have strange error
[09:09] <phonex01> said something about partial update
[09:09] <phonex01> i already updated broken dependency by apt-get update
[09:11] <Walex2> phonex01: probably you need to run 'dpkg' to complete existing installations.
[09:12] <jiltdil> phonex01:give this a try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:14] <CloCkWeRX> hi guys, I (stupidly) have killed my desktop experience. I  upgraded to natty, and then tried to enable desktop-cube under compiz-fusion settings. Sadly this disabled all of the unity /largedesktop/whatever it is; and the ability to run any kind of application that isn't already open. any suggestions on how I climb out of this hole? (ie: how I might swap back to 'classic')
[09:17] <ylmf> zhe  shi  shen  dongxi
[09:18] <Flannel> claude2: Natty in #ubuntu+1 for the time being, thanks.
[09:18] <Flannel> er, claude2, ignore that.
[09:20] <Inumedia> Anyone know of any settings in X that changes how fast a touchpad will move the mouse?  Not the overall speed but horizontal vs vertical speed.
[09:20] <coolness> lol
[09:21] <coolness> hey does anyone know how to  create node based guis?
[09:21] <coolness> in c++
[09:21] <coolness> anyone?
[09:21] <iceroot> coolness: #c++
[09:21] <Fudge> hi, how can i install a package but make sure it doesnt try and install a dependcy
[09:24] <TimR> Fudge: You can't, that's why it's called a dependency
[09:24] <pylix> I thought apt was smart enough to only install dependancies when they were not already installed
[09:25] <TimR> It is
[09:25] <Jockeo> Is there an application that "creates" a hotspot? (Say I have only one computer connected to the internet, and I want to access internet from other computers using wireless)
[09:26] <iceroot> Fudge: sudo aptitude install --no-new-installs packagename    (dont know if it is working but the manpage says so)
[09:26] <Rehan> anyone ever heard of a program that if you don't login to your machine for certain period of time, it will auto-erase everything?
[09:26] <larsto> hello.
[09:26] <iceroot> Fudge: but normally there is a reason for dependencies
[09:26] <Enjolras> hi, in the package libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, i only find the dri driver for ati. How can i get the gallium3D DRI driver for intel i915 ?
[09:27] <iceroot> Rehan: why should there be something like that?
[09:27] <larsto> i want to install ubuntu on my pc. should i install 10.10  or11.04
[09:27] <iceroot> larsto: 10.10
[09:27] <larsto> ok
[09:27] <Rehan> iceroot: i don't know, heard about something like that once, its a pretty cool idea
[09:27] <Flannel> Rehan: You could write something to do that easily enough
[09:27] <iceroot> larsto: or if you want long term support (lts) use 11.04
[09:27] <iceroot> larsto: or if you want long term support (lts) use 10.04
[09:27] <iceroot> Rehan: not really
[09:28] <nhoc_t39> thu dam
[09:28] <Rehan> iceroot: kind of like how cell phones for companies will wipe the phone after certain # of attempts
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[09:28] <iceroot> Rehan: write a script for that and do evil thins with dd :)
[09:29] <daniel__> how would i install a tgz file
[09:29] <iceroot> Rehan: easiest way, get the output from "last" and if the difference between last and now is big enough kill the system
[09:29] <nhoc_t39> how to install FLV Player for Ubuntu?
[09:30] <iceroot> daniel__: normally you search first if the package is in the repos. what program is it?
[09:30] <Rehan> iceroot: cool idea
[09:30] <Fudge> yep thank you, in this case it is because something has moved to a kernel but a package builder was there prior
[09:31] <iceroot> Rehan: but encrypt your hdd is maybe a better idea
[09:31] <daniel__> iceroot, tibia872.tgz ive done it from the terminal i jsut forgot  the line the person gave me last time i belive it was tar something
[09:32] <iceroot> daniel__: tar xfvz filename
[09:33] <nhoc_t39> how to install FLV Player for Ubuntu?
[09:33] <iceroot> nhoc_t39: flash?
[09:34] <daniel__> iceroot, thx man that worked perfect exectly what i was looking for
[09:34] <ruan> nhoc_t39: totem works
[09:34] <ruan> nhoc_t39: vlc might as well
[09:34] <ruan> nhoc_t39: (totem comes with Ubuntu so you dont have to install it)
[09:38] <mon_> hi
[09:41] <milen8204> anyone knows a good program for phone contacts set up ?
[09:43] <Samo502> Hey everybody
[09:44] <WaltherFI> hello
[09:45] <Samo502> Anyone else get an issue where certain areas of the screen simply don't seem to notice the mouse is there in any way?
[09:46] <WaltherFI> you can't click or what?
[09:46] <Samo502> well it simply doesn't interact with the mouse at all
[09:46] <Jaxxx> problem: I installed ubuntu netbook edition on my eeepc. Now it boots up to the point that you get ubuntu 10.10 and than it leaves a blank screen
[09:46] <Samo502> for instance the mouse doesn't change when hovering over something that should cause it to
[09:46] <Jaxxx> tried to change the resolution but nothing
[09:47] <Jaxxx> can't go back to terminal either
[09:47] <Samo502> it's *probably* that i'm on 11.04 beta though, but still it's good to know if it's a regular issue
[09:47] <Jaxxx> anyone seen this before??
[09:47] <Samo502> so you boot into it and get a blank screen?
[09:47] <WaltherFI> Samo502: oh. join #ubuntu+1 for natty
[09:47] <WaltherFI> Jaxxx: try booting to recovery mode or previous kernels
[09:47] <Jaxxx> yep, boot up works until you see the graphical screen that say's ubuntu 10.10
[09:48] <Samo502> WaltherFI: i noticed that in the header/topic, but i suppose it is a beta issue after all. no worries then in that case
[09:48] <acpi__> I cant boot up furter then tty1 and the error is supposed to be: /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs: No such file or directory ...  need help fixingthat
[09:48] <Samo502> because as soon as the full release comes out on the 28th i'll just update-manager -d anyway
[09:48] <Rehan> how could i decrease the sensitivity of my touchpad in ubuntu? anytime i'm typing and my palm accidentally hits the touchpad, my cursor jumps
[09:49] <Jaxxx> on startup I do get " ureadaheadprocess terminated with status 5
[09:49] <Tyrnis> plop all
[09:49] <WaltherFI> Samo502: no matter if it is a beta issue, you should talk to people/devs in there
[09:49] <Samo502> Rehan: i'm gonna guess you're on 10.10?
[09:49] <WaltherFI> Samo502: to let them know at least
[09:49] <Rehan> Samo502: yep
[09:50] <Samo502> Rehan: it'd definitely be in either administration or preferences, probably preferences someplace
[09:50] <Samo502> never used netbook edition as of yet(though i plan on getting ubuntu on this netbook here soon) so i couldn't say what exactly you'd go to
[09:50] <Rehan> Samo502: what would i be looking for? I found mouse and pointing device, neither has any option to control sensitivity of touchpad taps or turn it off
[09:51] <Samo502> hmm, what about changing the normal pointer sensitivity?
[09:51] <acpi__> I cant boot up furter then tty1 and the error is supposed to be: /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs: No such file or directory ...  need help
[09:51] <Rehan> Samo502: that only controls speed of movement
[09:52] <Samo502> wouldn't that make your mouse not jump so bad?
[09:52] <Samo502> because when your hand touches the touchpad like that, the touchpad reads it odd because of how it's being touched
[09:52] <Samo502> so it interprets it as some weird movement
[09:53] <Samo502> for instance on most touchpads, if you place a finger on say, a corner. and try moving your mouse it'll go nutty sometimes
[09:53] <Rehan> Samo502: hmm i suppose. i guess what i'm looking for is a way to turn tapping off or at least disable touchpad while typing
[09:53] <vak> hi all
[09:54] <Samo502> hello vak
[09:54] <vak> I have troubles trying to repair grub loader after installing windows on Dual boot machine
[09:55] <vak> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:55] <jkr801> iceroot
[09:55] <jkr801> thanks :)
[09:56] <acpi__> I cant boot up furter then tty1 and the error is supposed to be: /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs: No such file or directory ...  need help
[09:56] <Diverdude> When i have a file, eg. just a normal text file which is located in a folder, i can use nautilus to browse there just fine. When i then mark the file and press enter to open it in gedit a box pops up with 4 choices: {"run in terminal","Display","Cancel","Run"}. This box is oky. It is however extremely annoying that the cancel option is selected by defeault so that i need to either use the mouse to select the "Display" option or ALT-TAB 4 t
[09:56] <Diverdude> imes to select display. Is there any way to make the default selected option to be "Display" instead of "cancel"?
[09:56] <Samo502> Diverdude: that prompt can be annoying at times
[09:57] <vak> grub-install says: warn: Attempting to install Grub to a partition instead of MBR. This is a bad idea. [...] error: if you really want blocklists, use --force
[09:57] <goofed37> i installed kubuntu twice, and tried to erase one of them. now i get a black screen that reads, grup rescue. how do i get grub to boot to the kubuntu that is there.
[09:57] <iceroot> jkr801: yes, nx is the best thing out there :)
[09:57] <Diverdude> Samo502, yes, VERY annoying
[09:58] <jkr801> iceroot the session only logs in as nx do you know if there is a way to modifiy that to be any certain user?
[09:58] <Diverdude> Samo502, i can accept the prompt...but that default selection is just totally ridicolous...it makes me insane
[09:58] <goofed37> is there a grub room?
[09:59] <iceroot> jkr801: normally you can say the nx-client which user you want to be
[09:59] <iceroot> goofed37: what about try it? #grub
[09:59] <Samo502> Diverdude: you're the type of user that likes to use shortcuts a lot like me i guess? ^_^
[09:59] <brigadis> When you use nautius to browse a samba share, and try to drag and drop a song into rhytmbox it doesn't recgonize it. The solution is to copy the song to the machine first, and then transfer it to the ipod in rhytmbox. Anyone know of a workaround ?
[09:59] <goofed37> thanx.  :)
[09:59] <jkr801> iceroot ya its odd because i login at the use with the nx client but when it kicks me in its actually the user nx....
[10:01] <Inumedia> Anyone know of any settings in X that changes how fast a touchpad will move the mouse?  Not the overall speed but horizontal vs vertical speed.
[10:01] <Diverdude> Samo502, hehe yes.....a kind of user that actually use the computer properly :)
[10:02] <Samo502> hmm, ubuntu has a good variety of wireless drivers out of the box right?
[10:02] <Diverdude> Samo502, but did you ever fid a solution to the problem?
[10:02] <iceroot> Samo502: all free ones
[10:02] <Samo502> i'll google and see what i dig up
[10:03] <Samo502> in the meantime, if anyone knows if broadcom 802.11b is one of them that'd be nice to know
[10:03] <iceroot> Samo502: that is not a specific chip
[10:03] <iceroot> !broadcom | Samo502
[10:04] <Samo502> Diverdude: In nautilus, go to edit ----> prefreances -----> Behaviour. Under Execuatable Text Files, select Run, instead of Ask
[10:04] <Samo502> that's the first thing i could find
[10:04] <Samo502> but i think it may take away the prompt entirely
[10:04] <Samo502> either way it's probably worth looking at
[10:04] <Inumedia> heh...
[10:05] <Samo502> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+run+in+terminal+default&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[10:05] <Samo502> for reference, that's the google search
[10:07] <Samo502> i would have given the PCI id of my card if i knew how to get it on windows
[10:07] <Samo502> but the only way i know how really is to use lsusb on linux
[10:08] <selam> hi all, i'll try to make a debian package but i have problem, i try to make multiple binary package from sone source but each binary must have own version when i set Version: field in control file dpkg-buildpackage says "duplicate field Version found"  how can i make multiple binary package with different version form one source?
[10:08] <capunk> hi..
[10:09] <abhinav_singh> how to see the version of open office
[10:10] <Samo502> abhinav_singh: maybe open an open office application and see the "About" window?
[10:10] <Samo502> it usually tells a software version
[10:10] <enav> My lovely Ubuntu workstation  http://imagebin.org/150015
[10:11] <Samo502> makes me miss 10,10 sorta
[10:12] <ben_> hey, can someone help me with a quick issue here...
[10:12] <ben_> I removed the network status / control from the status bar and can't find it to add back
[10:12] <Samo502> ben_: what's the issue?
[10:13] <ben_> Samo502,  mainly that I'm a n00b haha
[10:13] <Samo502> i could tell you but i'm not on my ubuntu PC at the moment
[10:13] <Samo502> and i wouldn't know without looking for myself
[10:14] <Samo502> however i do plan on putting it on this one with a liveUSB due to this computer lacking a CD drive
[10:18] <teoman99> xx
[10:20] <milen8204> Anyone knows any program for mobile phone-book  managing ?
[10:24] <BlueLaguna> Is there no way to move the Unity dock in Natty?
[10:24] <Bisaya> how can i add set gfxpayload=text? any ideas guys?
[10:24] <Bisaya> *to grub btw, i think this might solve my blank screen boot problem
[10:24] <oCean> BlueLaguna: natty support (still beta) in #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <pawel__> hello world :)
[10:25] <BlueLaguna> oCean: ok
[10:26] <epril> i cant update
[10:26] <anonissimus> anyone around to help me with this apache virtualhost problem, I added blog.ddomain.tld /var/www/blog to  the virtualhosts but nothing loads when I navigate to blog.domain.tld
[10:27] <Enjolras> hi, what is the version of openGL required for running unity ?
[10:27] <Samo502> anonissimus: can you load it directly by entering the IP?
[10:27] <oCean> Bisaya: edit /etc/default/grub, add: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="gfxpayload=true" and run 'sudo update-grub'
[10:27] <anonissimus> Samo502: it is on the same ip as the domain.tld
[10:27] <pluto_> anyone tried oz unity
[10:28] <anonissimus> Samo502: ip displays main page
[10:28] <Samo502> anonissimus: yeah, but if you can load it by using the IP but not the domain, then you know the problem isn't with the server itself somehow
[10:28] <pluto_> oz unity debut 1
[10:28] <Samo502> anonissimus: then it sounds like the domain is somehow not set up properly most likely
[10:28] <epril> My system is up-to-date but the package information was said it was last updated 89 days ago. how can i solve the problem?
[10:29] <anonissimus> Samo502: you mean on dns level?
[10:29] <anonissimus> epril: sudo qptitude update
[10:30] <anonissimus> *aptitude
[10:30] <epril> i will try.. thanks
[10:31] <Samo502> anonissimus: most likely
[10:31] <pluto_> Timic have u tried Oz Unity Debut
[10:31] <Timic> ?
[10:32] <geniu> witam
[10:32] <geniu> wszystkich
[10:33] <T-Co> Hello. Could someone please help me with a cryptswap issue when I just upgraded to 10.10 using the graphical upgrade tool and system won't boot anymore?
[10:33] <geniu> wszystkiego najlepszego w ┼øwi─Öta
[10:33] <Samo502> T-Co: are there any specific errors?
[10:34] <T-Co> "Could not stat the resume device file '/dev/mapper/cryptswap1'"
[10:35] <T-Co> Samo502, I have my /etc/crypttab pointing at /dev/sda6
[10:35] <rusty149> T-Co: Can you access the terminal?
[10:35] <T-Co> Samo502, Yes
[10:35] <T-Co> rusty149, yes
[10:35] <Samo502> that's a pretty obscure error, i can't find much on it
[10:36] <raven_> possible to delay automatic app start?
[10:36] <rusty149> T-Co: Try manually enabling swap
[10:36] <epril> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tobydox/lmms/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb-src/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[10:36] <epril> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/janoomph/openshot-edge/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[10:36] <epril> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/janoomph/openshot-edge/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[10:36] <epril> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Is this still valid ppa? because it is always telling me "Failed to download repository information" "Check your Internet connection."
[10:36] <FloodBot1> epril: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <T-Co> rusty149, hmm, "No such file or directory"
[10:37] <rusty149> T-Co: Paste Command?
[10:37] <T-Co> rusty149, I'll try to reboot, the device was mapped before...
[10:37] <T-Co> rusty149, swapon -a
[10:37] <Bisaya> oCean: Where do i place the gfxpayload
[10:37] <raven_> possible to delay automatic app start?
[10:37] <sawdstar> hi
[10:38] <sawdstar> wap.sawdstar.mobie.in
[10:38] <Samo502> epril: i can't access those URLs either, seem sto be a server issue
[10:38] <T-Co> rusty149, froze, I'll reboot with recovery mode
[10:38] <sawdstar> wap.sawdstar.mobie.in
[10:38] <Samo502> seems to*
[10:38] <sawdstar> http://wap.sawdstar.mobie.in
[10:39] <Samo502> as for the release part, dunno
[10:40] <sawdstar> hi any indianz der/
[10:40] <Bisaya> anyone know where in grub.cfg i can enter GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="gfxpayload=text"
[10:40] <arand> sawdstar: Pleas don't spam here, thanks
[10:40] <T-Co> rusty149, It mounted with recovery mode and then chose "Reboot normally" or whatever...
[10:40] <sawdstar> y anand?
[10:41] <sawdstar> do any1 knw gud site 2dwnld ubuntu softwrs????????
[10:41] <Somelauw> What is the name of the widget that controls volume in gnome?
[10:42] <acnot> getdeb
[10:42] <Somelauw> Which makes the sound respond to my volume up/down key?
[10:42] <sawdstar> itz i think dock
[10:43] <acnot> sawdstar: getdeb.com
[10:43] <epril> Sam502: so don't need those..? i just need to delete those?
[10:44] <Samo502> epri
[10:44] <Samo502> epril: hmm
[10:44] <Guest63234> thank you ,byebye
[10:44] <sawdstar> its ubuntu software centre no other pvt site 4 open src app like 1001downloads.com for windows
[10:44] <Bisaya> what if my grub.cfg does not contain GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=
[10:45] <Samo502> epril: did that come from updating or what?
[10:45] <sawdstar> any IndianZ here??????????
[10:45] <landingonwater> people from india or real indians ? :D
[10:46] <sawdstar> Real IndianZZ
[10:46] <epril> Samo502: My problem is in update manager. it says "The package information was last updated 89 days ago."
[10:46] <MaRk-I> sawdstar: /join #ubuntu-in
[10:46] <sawdstar> dnt wory only update if u need
[10:47] <raven_> possible to delay vlc autostart?
[10:47] <ruan> autostart?
[10:47] <Samo502> epril: i'm not really advanced with ubuntu so if i think something isn't important it might actually be xD
[10:47] <ruan> what do you mean?
[10:48] <ruan> epril: sudo apt-get update ?
[10:48] <Samo502> ruan: i think he's probably referring to startup
[10:48] <epril> ruan: am always using dat command
[10:48] <landingonwater> Im giving Evolution a chance. Why is It they wont fix a simple problem like deletion of google mails ? It seems strange.
[10:48] <ruan> raven_: add a script that starts it as "sleep (seconds); vlc?
[10:49] <sawdstar> bye frnZ
[10:49] <Bisaya> How do i add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= into grub
[10:49] <epril> Samo502: It is always telling me "Failed to download repository information"
[10:49] <ruan> Bisaya: just guessing, but grub.cfg in /boot?
[10:49] <Bisaya> ruan: yeah, its jsut i dont know where in that text file i can add the entry in
[10:49] <Cube``> where does ubuntu keep mysql stuff, i.e. the root password? i would like to purge and remove everything
[10:50] <Bisaya> i dont wanna add it to the top or bottom if its meant to be in the middle etc
[10:50] <arand> Bisaya: /etc/default/grub
[10:50] <ruan> Cube``: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
[10:50] <Samo502> arand: he's asking where in the file
[10:51] <lars_> i want to install ubuntu on my pc. should i install 10.10  or11.04
[10:51] <Bisaya> ah ty arand
[10:51] <Samo502> 10.10 for now, lars
[10:51] <SixtyFold> lars 10.10 probably is better to start
[10:51] <lars_> okl
[10:51] <Samo502> 11.04 is a bit harder to navigate
[10:51] <lars_> and in 3 days you will say 11.04 .D
[10:51] <epril> it is always " E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:51] <lars_> ah ok
[10:51] <arand> Bisaya: Then run update-grub to propagate these into the grub.cfg file
[10:51] <lars_> KDE ill take ?
[10:51] <Samo502> they made some huge changes
[10:51] <SixtyFold> gnome by default
[10:52] <Samo502> and applications aren't really organized as wel
[10:52] <Cube``> ruan: tried it, didnt work, still have problems when installing the package, tells me it cannot set the root password
[10:52] <aydee> hey, hi!!)))
[10:52] <Samo502> epril: if there's a third party repo causing this it would make sense
[10:52] <aydee> help
[10:52] <WaltherFI> !ask |aydee
[10:52] <Samo502> epril: like for instance their file may not  be formatted right(as the error you pasted implies)
[10:53] <epril> Samo502: what will i do
[10:53] <arand> Bisaya: If you want to add the options manually, the "wrong way", you'd add them at the end of the "linux   ...." line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:54] <Samo502> epril: well unless it's causing trouble like having  you constantly update without needing to or thinking it's out of date when it isn't, then i wouldn't bother wtih anything drastic
[10:54] <Bisaya> I'd rather not since i couldnt find the line there, i jsut found it on /default folder tho
[10:54] <Bisaya> arand: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[10:54] <Bisaya> would changing that help me
[10:54] <Samo502> as long as you know when you update and the only thing effected is the text, then there's little need to change anything and it may fix itself eventually
[10:55] <Bisaya> im having problems when rebooting, it shows blank/colored screen with lines
[10:56] <Samo502> Bisaya: as in no splash screen?
[10:56] <Bisaya> i dont even know what splash screen is
[10:56] <arand> Bisaya: Those options control whether or not the splash screen, and the linux kernel boot log will be shown.
[10:56] <Bisaya> i just read somewhere that making gfxpayload=text will stop my blankscreen/color lines error
[10:56] <Samo502> Bisaya: the splash screen is the loading graphic when you boot
[10:56] <Bisaya> splash screen=login where i enter my pw screen?
[10:57] <Samo502> that is somewhat a splash screen yes, but not exactly what i'm referring to
[10:57] <Bisaya> ok so best leave that right
[10:57] <Bisaya> gRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="gfxpayload=text" <<  i think that should solve my problem
[10:57] <Samo502> it's probably referring to the graphic that shows the OS is loading
[10:58] <Bisaya> yeah i don't get to see that screen!
[10:58] <SixtyFold> does anyone else use ClamAV and know about the antivirus engine being at 96.5 and the gui version being at 4.26, for the gui version it tells me for sure there is a newer version but sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade doesnt seem to get it for me?
[10:58] <Bisaya> normally u would see ubuntu and like 4dots under it colored white/orange
[10:58] <Samo502> me either i get a missing deb error
[10:58] <Bisaya> but i dont get to see it, coz it crashes
[10:58] <Samo502> 2 of them
[10:58] <swearos> REGISTER lvjunchao616289 swearos91@gmail.com
[10:58] <arand> Bisaya: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41881&start=15#p277908
[10:58] <Samo502> but it boots fine other than that if i wait a minute
[10:58] <Bisaya> so the only way i get to login
[10:58] <Macer> is there a way to get ubuntu server to scan for hardware changes?
[10:59] <arand> Bisaya: That is probably not the corrrect way to add that option
[10:59] <Bisaya> is close the lid, then press on button to wake up from hibernate
[10:59] <Macer> i just put a pci-x areca raid in it and it doesnt seem to see it
[10:59] <Bisaya> arand:  i dont know wat i can do yet,im just getting tips from ppl sorry
[10:59] <freaky[t]> with what program can i mount .isos in ubuntu? oO
[10:59] <atlef> freaky[t], acetoneiso
[10:59] <Samo502> freaky[t]: and trick it into thinking it's a CD like you can with alcohol in windows?
[11:00] <freaky[t]> Samo502: like Daemon Tools for windows
[11:00] <SixtyFold> yah
[11:00] <Samo502> daemon tools and alcohol both do the same thing, so yeah
[11:00] <SixtyFold> same thing
[11:00] <SixtyFold> acetoneiso is what you want freaky[t]
[11:00] <Samo502> i always thought that they had an alcohol for linux
[11:00] <freaky[t]> ok thank you
[11:01] <MMB> Hi, anyone here have wireless N working well?
[11:01] <oCean> freaky[t]: you can use -o loop in mount command, e.g. 'sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mnt'
[11:02] <freaky[t]> oCean: ok thanks ;D
[11:02] <freaky[t]> thank you all
[11:02] <Samo502> oCean: i was just reading you could do it via terminal
[11:03] <Bisaya> arand:  that just seems like a lot of confusing stuff
[11:03] <Bisaya> talking about grub 1.97
[11:03] <Bisaya> i just want something that will make it so i dont have to close my laptop lid, then press the on button to wake up and see the login screen lol :(
[11:03] <arand> Bisaya: ~grub2 the version number is just odd
[11:04] <oCean> Samo502: sure, the linux cmdline is extremely powerful, no need for special programs/software/tools
[11:04] <Samo502> oCean: yeah that's a big way linux contrasts to windows
[11:04] <arand> Bisaya: If you just remove "quiet splash" from the default options, you might at least get some information about the issue
[11:04] <Samo502> linux comes packaged to do all sorts of things right off the bat
[11:05] <Samo502> windows provides the basics and people add to it from there
[11:05] <Bisaya> arand:  so if i remove quiet splash, wil i still be able to boot
[11:05] <Bisaya> i just have to pick options n al that
[11:05] <SixtyFold> yah, you just have to be careful because it's a lot easier to break linux
[11:05] <SixtyFold> hahah
[11:05] <SixtyFold> imho
[11:05] <arand> Bisaya: You should be yes.
[11:05] <Bisaya> ok
[11:05] <Samo502> yeah linux isn't really an idiot's OS :P
[11:05] <Bisaya> i'll try that
[11:05] <arand> Bisaya: What you can do termpoarily...
[11:05] <Bisaya> after gfxpayload=text
[11:05] <Samo502> that's why my dad's account on ubuntu is desktop user status
[11:06] <oCean> let's get back on the (support) topic, ok? chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <Bisaya> or should i try the spash thing before gfxpayload=text
[11:06] <SixtyFold> my parents can barely handle win7, theyd be screwed
[11:06] <arand> Bisaya: Is at boot time go into the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, and remove those two options there, that will only boot with that once, not add it permanently
[11:07] <tuhin> my kernel is 2.6.35 and according to http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature i don't need latest 2.6.38 for power savings to work on my Radeon x1700 based FireGL 5200 , so why my GPU is running hot when there is no gfx intensive work running?
[11:07] <Bisaya> oh ok yeah i've seen that earlier
[11:07] <Bisaya> ok let me try that first
[11:07] <Bisaya> and i'll come back, cheers
[11:07] <arand> SixtyFold: Depending on presumptions, a well setup linux desktop is harder to break and easier to use than the windows counterpart.
[11:08] <SixtyFold> arand, i think it depends on the user too of course, in general linux is easier for *me* to break, because i'm always trying new stuff xD
[11:09] <nod3w> opensuse always breaks, no matter what the user is doing
[11:09] <Koiti> --
[11:09] <SixtyFold> hehe nod3w
[11:11] <peeq> Hi, I am installing natty on another partition, while installing if I a specify /home to an already existing one consisting of app settings, will  this natty overwrite that drive or use the already existing settings in /home?
[11:12] <Cube``> how can i make a program (znc) start automatically on boot as a specific user? i.e. not as root (which would happen in /etc/init.d, right?)
[11:12] <dustin_> hi
[11:12] <Samo502> Cube``: use the startup applications GUI maybe?
[11:12] <dustin_> hi
[11:12] <p1n9v1n> any tutorial kaffeine + sc plugin?
[11:12] <Cube``> Samo502: its a server
[11:13] <arand> peeq: Afaik, if you don't specify it to be formatted, the data will remain.
[11:14] <oCean> peeq: still, a backup is always a good idea
[11:14] <Samo502> Cube``: hmm, if you added it that way with the proper parameters it could work maybe
[11:15] <Samo502> i don't think it would be much different from making a shortcut to start it
[11:15] <Samo502> dustin_: and hello
[11:15] <p1n9v1n> kaffeine + sc tutorial, please?
[11:15] <Macer> damn
[11:16] <Macer> ubuntu imported my zpool but it lost a drive in the process
[11:16] <dustin_> are you new here??
[11:16] <Macer> is there a way to rename the device?
[11:16] <rooney_> Macer: no
[11:16] <rooney_> Macer: it's named by kernel
[11:16] <Samo502> dustin_: me? new to this channel yes
[11:16] <dd214> I've been listening to streaming music with Movie Player.  the files are ".m3u", but am getting the following error when I attempt to stream: "could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file"
[11:16] <Macer> rooney_: can i remove it and readd it to the pool?
[11:17] <Macer> remove the misnamed one
[11:17] <Macer> it had an opensolaris dev name
[11:17] <dustin_> welcome to our humble channel
[11:17] <dustin_> ")
[11:17] <Samo502> dd214: i've gotten that error before, change the permissions and make sure everyone can read the file
[11:17] <Macer> "was /dev/dsk..."
[11:17] <Macer> :(
[11:17] <p1n9v1n> you can change label in disk utility
[11:17] <Macer> the zpool wont mount until i correct that problem
[11:17] <Samo502> also if it's in a directory with limited permissions it may give you trouble
[11:18] <dd214> Samo502  already tried that.. no go
[11:18] <Samo502> though why music would be stored in such a place would be beyond me
[11:19] <p1n9v1n> hi zvonkorp
[11:20] <razz1> having trouble with gparted, does not open, looks like its starting, then just disappears
[11:20] <Samo502> dd214: i'm not sure how i would have fixed it in that case, when i get an error like that i chmod the file to full permissions an that normally works
[11:21] <peeq> arand, oCean, ok i do have backup of /home. basically i want to try natty and be able to revert back tomaverick, by doing a separate install.
[11:21] <Guest64749> dont waste your time. unity isnt ready yet
[11:22] <arand> peeq: I think keeping /home separate might be a good idea still, just copy over the bits you need to the new one.
[11:22] <arand> peeq: For natty support #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <Guest64749> fuck shit piss cunt cock twat
[11:23] <iceroot> !ops | Guest64749
[11:24] <Macer> ugh
[11:24] <Macer> i have no idea how to fix this
[11:24] <Macer> the other 3 drives detected fine
[11:24] <Guest64749> !ops | Guest64749
[11:25] <Guest64749> !ops | ?
[11:25] <Flannel> Guest64749: yes?
[11:25] <Guest64749> ?
[11:25] <Flannel> Guest64749: What do you need help with?
[11:26] <dd214> Samo502  thanks for your help... there's no problem with the file, there is a problem with stream.  I can't play the m3u from my windows machine either.
[11:26] <iceroot> what is the common way if i need a newer libc for some testing? a vm?
[11:26] <patrunjel> hi guys, my wlan0 channle (my wifi interface, I guess this is how it's called) is -1...why does this happens? I have read in some man pages that it should start from 1...
[11:27] <Samo502> dd214: anytime
[11:27] <razz1> is there a ppa for latest gparted stable release?
[11:28] <Samo502> patrunjel: wlan0 is indeed your wifi interface, as for the rest i don't know as i've always been wired on my linux box
[11:28] <iceroot> razz1: what problems exist with the current version in ubuntu?
[11:29] <Macer> ah
[11:29] <Macer> think i got it
[11:29] <Macer> just had to replace it :)
[11:29] <Macer> hell yeah
[11:29] <razz1> iceroot: does not start, or when it starts just hangs scanning for drives
[11:29] <arand> razz1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted 0.7 might be installable in maverick, alternatively look at the end of the page for PPA versions.
[11:30] <iceroot> razz1: if you start it from the shell, are there any errors?
[11:30] <razz1> cd /dev
[11:30] <razz1> then ls
[11:31] <gp5st> i'm not sure if this is a php or ubuntu problem.  I have install php5-dev and php-pear.  When I go to install a pecl extention, i'm told phpize isn't found
[11:33] <razz1> iceroot: same issue, looks like starting, then just disappears
[11:33] <iceroot> razz1: you are using "gksudo gparted"?
[11:34] <razz1> iceroot: yes
[11:34] <razz1> arand: i am using lucid, how can I install ver .7.0
[11:34] <iceroot> razz1: no output on the shell?
[11:35] <razz1> iceroot: no
[11:35] <SEV7EN> someone here?
[11:35] <iceroot> razz1: there should be at least a line with "libparted"
[11:35] <SEV7EN> :D
[11:35] <Macer> wow
[11:35] <iceroot> SEV7EN: /n
[11:35] <Macer> 18 hrs to scrub
[11:36] <razz1> iceroot: with every reboot sda and sdb keep swapping, I just installed  a second HD. this mess started just afterwards
[11:37] <webmaker> hey
[11:38] <ichigo2011> hows everyone doing tonight?
[11:39] <sveinse> Is it possible to create profiles or similar with the nvidia x server settings?
[11:40] <webmaker> fine
[11:40] <sveinse> Because I'm using ubuntu under three scenarios: On the laptop alone, at work and at home. All with different monitor setup and resolutions. And I'm getting tired of having to reconfigure the X server settings all the time
[11:40] <brontosaurusrex> ichigo2011, the earth is round
[11:41] <razz1> anyone got this error before when trying to format a partition, daemon is being inhibited - getting this when trying to format an extended partition.
[11:41] <judgex_> hi, what is the safest way to tunnel out of a corporate network without being caught so i can browse, chat on irc and read mailing-lists from work? do i simply use port 443 and nat?
[11:42] <carlito> judgex_: you should read up on ssh and socks proxy ;)
[11:42] <psalden> hey folks, I'm doing some reading, is there anything planned yet with regards to ubuntu 11.10 and maybe involving gnome3?
[11:42] <spacebug-> judgex_: you should really work at work, otherwise vpn is a good way to get private
[11:43] <Bisaya> arand:  I fixed it! changed from "quiet splash" to "nomodeset quiet splash"
[11:43] <webmaker> judgex_,  i guees a work to home pc proxies
[11:44] <judgex_> thx
[11:44] <josvuk> Runnig lsb_release is printig No LSB modules are available. I have no manuals for lsb man lsb prints No manual entry for lsb.
[11:44] <josvuk> So what is behind lsb?
[11:44] <Bisaya> arand:  it now shows the ugly lines screen when i shutdown, but i dont care, im shutting the computer down neways at that stage lol
[11:45] <brontosaurusrex> if i have an intranet web/ftp server and i would like to do a partial mirror on the remote machine, is there a ftp flag i could use, so that users would specifically flag files that are to be synced?
[11:45] <webmaker> spacebug-, judgex_ ,  just combine whats i said to bug
[11:45] <brontosaurusrex> i plan to use rsync
[11:46] <middle> a
[11:46] <middle> When my PC boots it stalls on 'Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.' Any ideas?
[11:49] <webmaker> middle, does it even start?
[11:51] <middle> it boots up i can see it all working, (i turned off quiet and splash from the grub menu), but it jsut gets to
[11:51] <middle> 'Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.' and stops
[11:52] <webmaker> hiow arre you tlk to us then??
[11:53] <middle> Just booted into safe mode, and it hangs at the same poitn for like 20 seconds then works... and im on my laptop ^^
[11:54] <middle> ok now i do believe it is an issue with eh video drivers.
[11:54] <webmaker> how long have you been usin linux?
[11:54] <middle> I booted in safe mode logged in everythign was fine, but when i startx i black screen... and i have been intensively using for about a year maybe, probably a bit less
[11:54] <middle> why do you ask?
[11:56] <webmaker> well if your new to this then i got to start" way in the benning "
[11:57] <middle> ah ok well consider me fairly new, i have spent more of my time learning about networking with Linux
[11:58] <webmaker> im  a  bit rusty thought , im tryin to get back at it.. lol im goin to be like 9.04ubunut  a still usable antinc
[11:58] <middle> haha
[11:58] <webmaker> (old item)
[11:58] <Macer> heh
[11:58] <webmaker> thats wehen i started
[11:59] <Macer> reminds me i need to figure out how to use both onboard gbit nics
[11:59] <Macer> wonder if it will help with speed at all
[11:59] <webmaker> keybroads a bit sticky keys
[11:59] <oCean> webmaker: chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:59] <josvuk> I have a dualhead system but it happens the computer don't start up if I shutdown in hibernate mode.
[11:59] <Macer> forgot what it was even called.. i never did it before
[12:00] <josvuk> Are this known problems?
[12:00] <deneb> hello. how could i put my project under a license?
[12:00] <deneb> for ex. under gpl
[12:00] <marsfligth> I made a batch script to keep updated the OS and more. It works perfectly but it does not print at monitor the commands that the script has provided, I can see only the output of the commands given. What I am mistaking? Thank you for help me. Ps: my script is here http://pastebin.com/SKuDZjt4
[12:00] <webmaker> ok op
[12:00] <oCean> deneb: this is ubuntu technical support, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Macer> bonding?
[12:01] <mickster04> I have an interesting issue where ubuntu won't boot because of my blu-ray drive. it gets past grub but then comaplins it initrfms(?) isn't found. sometimes it can boot though...but then upon reboot my pc takes ages to get past post
[12:01] <middle> webmaker: Do you think you can help me fix my issue? If so do you want to talk in PM?
[12:01] <Macer> does bonding just put each nic in half duplex?
[12:02] <webmaker> josvuk,  thats cuz it takes a "snap shot " of whats running ,"SAves" it and " shuts down
[12:03] <erUSUL> Macer: it shouldn't afaik
[12:03] <Macer> erUSUL: so it doubles speed as a "single" interface?
[12:03] <erUSUL> marsfligth: that's the expeted behavior
[12:04] <Macer> thats awesome
[12:04] <erUSUL> Macer: it depends on the bond mode you use. there are several.
[12:04] <Macer> ah. ok. i will look into some docs
[12:05] <Macer> once this box is done with its 15hrs of resilvering i will move it and try setting up the bonding
[12:05] <mickster04> is it possible to use 2 nics at the same time in ubuntu also?
[12:05] <mickster04> !pm | Macer
[12:05] <mickster04> !pm | middle
[12:05] <mickster04> sorry Macer wrong nic
[12:05] <Macer> i should bond 2 and see how fast it goes :)
[12:05] <josvuk> webmaker: yes it shutsdown but next time I boot get black screens, so I have to switch off and boot again.
[12:06] <middle> urm well the system was working maybe an update that i did messed it up perhaps? I was trying to get Minecraft to work on it and i did an update that was all, i ended up un-installing minecraft so perhaps that uninstalled a  critical package? is eitehr that or the update messed it up
[12:06] <mickster04> josvuk: how much ram and swap have you got?
[12:06] <middle> Now when i boot it up via safe mode i get a black screen, and a regular boot hangs on a command
[12:06] <marsfligth> erUSUL: I would like to see for ie: ls -al (thecommand with options + all output)
[12:07] <erUSUL> marsfligth: set -x at the beggining of the script.
[12:07] <Macer> hm. i forget what the max throughput of pci-x is
[12:07] <marsfligth> erUSUL: at the moment i see only the output w/o commands)
[12:07] <Macer> my box is resilvering at 100MB/s but i suppose that is a bit different than raw reads at full speed
[12:07] <josvuk> Mem: 1547564k total Swap 4541096k total
[12:08] <erUSUL> marsfligth: as i said that's normal. what use have a script that outputs all the commands it executes ? that's nosense
[12:08] <Cube``> i just rented a vps. how can i set it up so that it forwards everything to xxx@googlemail.com?
[12:08] <iceroot> Cube``: #postfix
[12:08] <josvuk> mickster04: That's what top reports me
[12:08] <Cube``> without postfix but with sendmail
[12:08] <marsfligth> erUSUL: for intance:   [-x ls -al] ?
[12:09] <iceroot> Cube``: #sendmail
[12:09] <Cube``> kk thx
[12:09] <middle> So any help?
[12:09] <iceroot> Cube``: and think about using postfix instead of sendmail
[12:09] <Cube``> iceroot: why?
[12:09] <erUSUL> marsfligth: huh? ┬½ set -x ┬╗ in its own line at the beggining of the script. that activates a "debug" mode
[12:09] <iceroot> Cube``: ever configured sendmail?
[12:10] <Cube``> iceroot: haha ok
[12:10] <webmaker> im still here, im just pullin goust right now
[12:13] <Macer> so glad ubuntu has zfs support
[12:13] <cowgoesmoo> can anyone help me install vmware tools on a vm running ubuntu 64-bit?
[12:14] <mewt> Hi, what should I use on ubuntu 10.10 as desklets ? I installed gdesklets - which failed on install, i followed instructions to fix the errors but it's only got like 4 desklets in it only - am I doing somethign wrong ?
[12:14] <middle> OK now i removed the X11/xorg.conf file in the hope that it would not use the proprietry ati drivers and would atleast boot into grpahcial mode, however i kno wjus tget no signal coming form the card, no signall at all
[12:14] <webmaker> josvuk,  the less you have open the fast it boot on hibernation
[12:14] <syrinx_> mewt: I find KDE to be better for widgets
[12:15] <atlef> cowgoesmoo, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[12:15] <cowgoesmoo> thanks atlef
[12:17] <josvuk> webmaker: So whats the average boot time if I have 1MB mem used and 0 swap ? I think it shouldn't take minutes ...
[12:17] <alabd> Good day  all , I(humble) want to use buddy pounces  in pidgin to log when a buddy signs on and signs off , buddy pounce can run a command while a buddy signs off/on , but how to use this ability for creating logs
[12:17] <josvuk> s/1MB/1GB
[12:18] <mewt> syrinx_, mmmm maybe ill install kubuntu-desktop once more and give it a try
[12:18] <marsfligth> erUSUL: Thanks it works :-), at the beginning of each command it prints a plus symbol '+' , but this apart it does exactly what I was looking for. Thank you again erUSUL
[12:19] <ro0m0z> got a question? what can i do with a ssh server
[12:19] <syrinx_> mewt: installing KDE on an existing install my be a bit easier
[12:19] <ray_> hello
[12:19] <syrinx_> mewt: then you can just pick which one to use at the login screen
[12:19] <erUSUL> !ssh | ro0m0z
[12:19] <ro0m0z> ?
[12:19] <webmaker> i have almost always had swap, it serves many purposes
[12:20] <mewt> syrinx_, that's what im doing :)
[12:20] <josvuk> Could a dialin internetconnection be a problem if I hibernate?
[12:20] <ro0m0z> i need just a simple answer?
[12:21] <syrinx_> ro0m0z: to what question
[12:21] <ro0m0z> what can i do with a SSH Server?
[12:21] <webmaker> ray_, hi
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> ro0m0z: ssh in and do stuff :)
[12:21] <syrinx_> ro0m0z: remote login/management
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[12:21] <jrib> ro0m0z: secure remote shell
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> ssh is a multi-tool sort of software. it can do some nifty tricks
[12:22] <capunk_> hi.. iam a new on ubuntu. would you like to guide me on installing squid, i was crazy on it
[12:22] <ro0m0z> jrib: Dr_Willis syrinx_ so why people run a SSH server?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> !info squid
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> capunk_:  sudo apt-get install squid
[12:23] <jrib> ro0m0z: mostly so they can control a computer remotely
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> ro0m0z:  so i can ssh to my machines and do 'things' on them as if i was sitting there locally. een if the box is 100000 miles away
[12:23] <Bekti> Alone............................................................
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> sshfs is also very handy. mounts remote ssh server as a local directory.
[12:24] <capunk_> @ Dr_Willis how about the configuration, please..
[12:24] <Dominater> i have a tv tunner on ubuntu but which program i should use to use it?
[12:24] <Bekti> sdfhkjs
[12:24] <Bekti> sdfsd
[12:24] <Bekti> sdf
[12:24] <Bekti> sd
[12:24] <Bekti> fs
[12:24] <FloodBot1> Bekti: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Bekti> df
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> capunk_:  edit its config as needed. Squid has guides and docs all over the internetz.
[12:24] <ro0m0z> Dr_Willis: jibun ...on a "ssh server" can i also host a website?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> !info tvtime
[12:24] <middle> where is the grub menu in ubuntu 10.10
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> ro0m0z:  you insrtall a web server to host web sites.. the 2 are not exclusive. one box can do both. and often does
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | middle
[12:25] <hosaias> oi
[12:25] <middle> ah yeah forgot that
[12:25] <hosaias> alguem para falar sobre ubuntu
[12:25] <hosaias> #piaui
[12:25] <ro0m0z> Dr_Willis: and how can i run a ssh server on my computer?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> ro0m0z:  install a ssh service.
[12:26] <g0th> Not allowed to print.
[12:26] <chammua> i can't login ubuntu system...it's only display screen with logo Ubuntu...how to fix this error...pls!
[12:26] <MaRk-I> !pt | hosaias
[12:26] <hosaias> #sexo
[12:26] <g0th> When I try to print a test page I get the following message: Unable to send command to printer driver!
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> ro0m0z:  time to read that SSH guide url given earlier.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | ro0m0z
[12:26] <g0th> I use latest kubuntu with cups and a network laserjet printer
[12:26] <Dominater> why my internet is so slow when i run ubuntu?
[12:26] <middle> Ah i will have to give up for now, i will return and work on it later probably, im stuck with Windows 7 from now on :'(
[12:27] <middle> ciao and thanks!
[12:27] <g0th> It says: Not allowed to print.
[12:27] <g0th> If I am not allowed to print, how do I allow myself?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  depenmds on how the network printer is shareing the printer. Mine uses several differnt methods.
[12:27] <g0th> I should note that I can print stuff I just cannot print a testpage or clean the printer
[12:27] <g0th> I dont think it depends Dr-Willis
[12:27] <g0th> because it is a cups issue not a printer issue
[12:27] <marsfligth> erUSUL: I tried to launch the script name > myoutput.txt and again I can't see the commands, what can I do?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  thats interesting.. so normal uysers work. but not the special features?>
[12:28] <g0th> everything works
[12:28] <g0th> but the "interface" doesnt seem to work so nice
[12:28] <larsto> hello
[12:28] <g0th> the printout is very bad quality
[12:28] <g0th> so I wanted to clean the printer using cups
[12:28] <syrinx_> hey larsto
[12:28] <g0th> but it always tells me "Not allowed to print"
[12:28] <Dominater> why my internet is so slow when i run ubuntu?
[12:28] <ro0m0z> by the way, what is the command line here if i wanna to join another channel?
[12:28] <Macer> g0th: some printers are windows specific
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  ive noticed that cup some times defaults to using the lowest res on my laser printers..
[12:28] <larsto> i wanted to ask, if i can use 11.04 already or better 10.10 (PRODUCTIVE MACHINE !!)
[12:28] <Macer> cups only allows it to print
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  i aslweays have to set them higher using the cups web interface.
[12:29] <g0th> this one is definitely not windows specific, also I use it since 2 years
[12:29] <g0th> it is not that
[12:29] <g0th> it prints the page but kind of "doubled"
[12:29] <g0th> Ie. I get the whole picture
[12:29] <syrinx_> larsto: it's pretty much stable now, release date is 3 days :3
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> No idea on the clean mode. Not even sure how a laser printer has a 'clean head' mode..
[12:29] <larsto> ok
[12:29] <g0th> and then a much weaker version of it again a bit lower
[12:29] <brontosaurusrex> ro0m0z, /join #channel
[12:29] <capunk_> @Dr_Willis did  the squid is automatically run when we turn on the computer
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  that sounds like the toner/drum issues ive seen over the years.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> capunk_:  it should be.
[12:30] <Macer> most printers have a way to do it locally
[12:30] <g0th> how to solve it?
[12:30] <larsto> synrix_ have i to re install after release ?
[12:30] <chammua> i can't login ubuntu system...it's only display screen with logo Ubuntu...how to fix this error...pls!
[12:30] <Macer> by holding a button on the printer
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> capunk_:  sudo service SERVICENAME status   to see whats running.
[12:30] <Dominater> can someone help me please?
[12:30] <syrinx_> larsto: no
[12:30] <larsto> ok
[12:30] <g0th> Macer: hmm nice
[12:30] <g0th> ok I gotta do some reasearch then
[12:30] <g0th> I mean which buttons to press
[12:30] <larsto> syrinx_ should i download beta 2 or daily
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  whens the last time you changed the toner/cart?
[12:30] <Macer> and most do it automatically after a certain amount of time
[12:31] <larsto> thankxx
[12:31] <Macer> i havent used an inkjet printer in years tho
[12:31] <g0th> Dr_Willis: a while
[12:31] <marsfligth> erUSUL: the script start with 'set -x'
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> my laser printer only has 1 button. :)
[12:31] <Impollinator> hello
[12:31] <Dominater> why my internet is so slow when i run ubuntu?
[12:31] <g0th> I guess one has to press a certain sequence to initiate the cleaning
[12:31] <v3nd3tta``> I wanted to upgrade from Kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, used the tutorial MaverickUpgradeKubuntu but it wants to update to "Ubuntu 10.10"
[12:31] <Impollinator> Hello guys I have a newbie question
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> g0th:  this is a laser? not an inkjet?
[12:31] <syrinx_> larsto: daily MIGHT break
[12:32] <brontosaurusrex> g0th, the instructions are usually on the back or if you lift the cover, depending on how to printer is build
[12:32] <larsto> ok
[12:32] <Impollinator> When I start ubuntu from usb. what is the name of my pc?
[12:32] <brontosaurusrex> *the
[12:32] <g0th> laserjet p2055dn
 why do you want to update ??
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Impollinator:  if you use the live cd on a usb. its 'ubuntu' i think. check with the hostname command, or the bash prompt shows it.
[12:32] <smmsadrnezh> I have Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit desktop. I can't login with X becuz my hard disk is full. when I enter df I saw 100% of / is full
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  try logging in at the consoel. and remove some stuff.
[12:33] <v3nd3tta``> larsto: should i wait the 3 days to 11.04 release and then jump to that?
[12:33] <larsto> v3nd3tta`` why do you want to update ??
[12:33] <g0th> stupid me
[12:33] <larsto> either stay with 10.04 or upgrade to 11.04 ;)
[12:33] <g0th> there is a menu on the printer
[12:33] <g0th> should be somewhere in the menu
[12:33] <larsto> g0th: what ????
[12:33] <Dominater> why my internet is so slow when i run ubuntu?
[12:34] <Impollinator> Dr_Willis thx: listen, can I change my pc adrees on each ubuntu access?
[12:34] <Impollinator> In order to look like a total new user each time
[12:35] <marsfligth> How to print a batch including all commands given?  for instance: 'sh mybatch > myoutpotlog.txt'
[12:35] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: I login but when I enter ls all of the directories is in kb
[12:35] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: sorry becuz of bad english
[12:35] <snoeman> I am new to ubuntu though not to linux. Where are all the configuration options which are available in other distro's such as yast?
[12:35] <jrib> marsfligth: set -x  as erUSUL suggested, does that
[12:36] <Dominater> why my internet is so slow when i run ubuntu?
[12:36] <g0th> cleaning didnt help
[12:36] <syrinx_> snoeman: the System menu, and for software, Synaptic works well
[12:36] <Impollinator> I need to install an app that allaw you to increase free space when you invite friends. My friends already got that app, so I was thinking to create other accounts my own.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | Impollinator
[12:36] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: also it's not human readable to find out wich directory is full
[12:37] <larsto> !ubuntu | Impollinator
[12:37] <jrib> marsfligth: note "set -x" will print commands to stderr
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  you may want to do a 'sudo apt-get autoremove' or 'sudo apt-get clean'
[12:37] <Impollinator> lol
[12:37] <Impollinator> thx
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  directories dont get full.. fileysstems get full.
[12:37] <Impollinator> !thx
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  theres system directories that can take up a lot of space also /tmp/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:37] <snoeman> syrinx_ There is nothing in my system menu to configure the system such as samba
[12:38] <smmsadrnezh> I entered ls in /
[12:38] <syrinx_> snoeman: AFAIK theres nothing really like that. That's one of the things that makes SUSE cool
[12:38] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: all of the / directories is in KB
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  you dont want to be deleting stuff at random
[12:39] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: but df show / Use is 100%
[12:39] <snoeman> OK thanks
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh: start with a  'sudo apt-get autoremove' or 'sudo apt-get clean'
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  then remove stuff from your users dir - if its taking up all the space, /home/yourusername
[12:39] <marsfligth> jrib: It works only if I run the batch from 'inside it'. If the batch is named aaa.sh, ad I launch 'aaa.sh > mylog.txt', I can only see the command outputs, but not the commands invoked
[12:40] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: those command's don't work
[12:40] <syrinx_> snoeman: best bet for samba is to config it manually, not sure where the config file it though
[12:40] <jrib> marsfligth: you need to redirect stderr (add "2>&1" to your command)
[12:41] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: how i can see folders size in %
[12:41] <marsfligth> jrib: Thanks, I never user untill now. I'll go to study a bit. Thanks for help me
[12:42] <hltman> hello all, i have a problem, any help would be great.
[12:42] <jrib> hltman: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:42] <hltman> i need evolution alternative, because i couldnt configure my exchange account.
[12:43] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: how to see directory size in % ?
[12:43] <hltman> it gives an error (you are using exchange 5.5 but connector only supports 2000 and 2003
[12:45] <hltman> any suggest?
[12:45] <smmsadrnezh> Dr_Willis: home/<username> size is 4050220
[12:46] <p1n9v1n> i installed kaffeine but there is no video only audio, anyone can help?
[12:46] <kingofswords> loader
[12:46] <hltman> Newbie Question: I need evolution alternative application, because when i configure my exchange mail account, i take an error says 'connector supports only exchange server 2003 and 2000'. Any suggest? And any suggest for alternative Dreamweaver and Photoshop?
[12:46] <kingofswords> hi can anyone recommend a good download manger for ubuntu....like jloader?
[12:47] <p1n9v1n> alternative for Photoshop is Gimp
[12:47] <oxodesign> need someone to help me configure and secure a ubuntu server (lamp, postfix, denyhosts) asap. I will pay for it! Send me a pm if interested!
[12:47] <syrinx_> oxodesign: don't do that here
[12:48] <bazhang> !equivalents > hltman
[12:48] <Macer> ugh. bios update needs a floppy
[12:48] <Macer> wth
[12:48] <p1n9v1n> i installed kaffeine but there is no video only audio, anyone can help?
[12:49] <Macer> i dont even know where to get a floppy
[12:49] <syrinx_> p1n9v1n: do you have the right codecs?
[12:49] <Macer> maybe i can make a bootable thumb drive
[12:49] <p1n9v1n> i didn't install anything
[12:50] <syrinx_> p1n9v1n: I usually have the same problem, which is why I just use Totem
[12:50] <p1n9v1n> yeah, but i want to watch satellite tv with my dvb card
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> smmsadrnezh:  try df -h or du -hs
[12:51] <Cube``> hey guys. i just rented a vps. how can i set it up so that it forwards all incoming mail to xxx@googlemail.com?
[12:51] <aif123> im back!
[12:51] <aif123> rly
[12:52] <larsto> i will download kubuntu 11.04 now !
[12:52] <p1n9v1n> vlc works great because it comes with integrated codecs, but with kaffeine i'm sure i miss something
[12:52] <aif123> do u have emarld
[12:53] <p1n9v1n> what is emarld?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !emerald
[12:53] <aif123> theme manger
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> emerals is a window decorator. not a theme manager. :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> and emerald is basically a dead project
[12:53] <kran> hello
[12:54] <p1n9v1n> i need video output in kaffeine
[12:54] <larsto> i will download kubuntu 11.04 now !
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> p1n9v1n:  see if it works with other tvtuner apps like tvtime.
[12:55] <aif123> ubottu
[12:55] <p1n9v1n> it is satellite dvb card, is it supported in tvtime?
[12:55] <larsto> aif123:
[12:55] <larsto> !ubotto
[12:55] <larsto> !ubottu
[12:56] <Garinandizhesnim> Hi all!
[12:57] <Garinandizhesnim> Ubuntu 10.10 rullz! :)
[12:57] <aif123> no 11.04
[12:57] <p1n9v1n> which is good irc client?
[12:58] <aif123> idk
[12:58] <aif123> this is best
[12:58] <syrinx_> p1n9v1n: irssi
[12:58] <Garinandizhesnim> Why?
[12:58] <Garinandizhesnim> It's not supported yet...
[12:58] <syrinx_> will be in 3 days
[12:58] <aif123> yha
[12:58] <Garinandizhesnim> ou...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> I perfer weechat over irssi - for a text-based irc client.
[12:59] <Garinandizhesnim> cool
[12:59] <p1n9v1n> i installed irssi but don't know how to use it
[12:59] <aif123> any video 1s?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> p1n9v1n:  with irssi and weechat - youi will want to read their docs and beginner guides
[13:00] <kassius> open it... /server irc.freenode.net
[13:00] <aif123>                                                                                                        
[13:00] <llutz> p1n9v1n: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup
[13:00] <aif123> lol
[13:01] <p1n9v1n> kassius: that works
[13:01] <aif123> emarlead
[13:01] <josvuk>  where is some documentation how ubuntu-desktop boots up I have to find out something which I would automate? I want to do this tasks on booting automaticaly dvi=DVI-0 lvds=LVDS xrandr --output $dvi --auto --output $lvds --off
[13:02] <kumar> i need to know the type of account i am logged in into...(administrator/desktop user)
[13:02] <aif123> emarlead
[13:02] <Macer> hm
[13:02] <Macer> my zfs doesnt seem to be mounting and i have no idea why
[13:03] <Macer> is mounting a degraded pool not permitted?
[13:03] <AureiAnimus> do you guys think this laptop will play nice with ubuntu? http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c02732667&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[13:04] <Pici> kumar: If your user is in the 'admin' group, then it has the ability to run things with administrator rights.
[13:04] <syrinx_> AureiAnimus: I don't see why not
[13:04] <aif123> :-)
[13:04] <aif123> ;)
[13:04] <AureiAnimus> okay, thanks
[13:04] <Pici> kumar: See the output of 'groups' or 'id' on a terminal to see what groups your are in
[13:05] <erUSUL> Macer: linux support for zfs is poor ( it is via fuse; isn't it? ) use linux native filesystems ...
[13:05] <aif123> ubuntu
[13:05] <bazhang> aif123, did you have a support question?
[13:05] <syrinx_> yes, ubuntu
[13:05] <atlef> !ask | aif123
[13:06] <aif123> 11.04 how it is doing
[13:06] <bazhang> aif123, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:06] <aif123> ok
[13:06] <kumar> @Pici i was looking for a command... because i need to implement it in a java program
[13:07] <Anubis> is it possible to encrypt a user folder after the installation of os? is yes what do you recommend for encryption ?
[13:07] <pingvin> i'm typing this from irssi
[13:08] <SixtyFold> congrats?
[13:08] <pingvin> thanks syrinx_
[13:08] <erUSUL> Anubis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[13:08] <capunk_> Dr_Willis:  to start, i type sudo squid.  now how can i stop squid from running,
[13:08] <syrinx_> pingvin: no problem ;)
[13:09] <syrinx_> pingvin: it's not fancy, but its powerful
[13:09] <syrinx_> function over form
[13:09] <pingvin> terminal app is alwals powerful :)
[13:09] <syrinx_> mhmm
[13:10] <kumar> Pici, is it necessary that if a user have right to execute sudo command he will have group id 1000 i.e. gid of root
[13:11] <Pici> kumar: No. Any user can be put into the admin group, regardless of their uid.
[13:11] <terry> capunk_: sudo pkill squid
[13:13] <Anubis> erusul: thank you
[13:13] <kumar> Pici: that's why i was looking for a command which tells me weather a user can execute sudo command or no
[13:14] <Pici> kumar: If its a default ubuntu install, check if that user is in the admin group.
[13:14] <ro0m0z> what is the diffrent betwen runlevel local with other run levels in ubuntu?
[13:15] <terry> capunk_: sudo /etc/init.d/squid stop   Should stop it.  (Something wrong if it doesn't.)
[13:17] <terry> ro0m0z: Not much difference in runlevels since the advent of upstart.
[13:17] <pingvin> is there any codec pack for ubuntu and how to install it?
[13:18] <kumar> Pici: thanks i ran "groups <user_name>" and it gave me the list of groups it belongs to
[13:18] <terry> pingvin: mplayer-codecs?
[13:19] <p1n9v1n> which codecs are included, all?
[13:20] <TjWallas> quit Operation GeekNess
[13:21] <p1n9v1n> is there in synaptic codeck pack that i can check and install?
[13:21] <capunk_> terry : thanks.. ;)
[13:21] <terry> np
[13:22] <Macer> i sure hope  these zfs will  mount when  the resilvering is done
[13:22] <smmsadrnezh> how can I see the size of directory in %
[13:22] <atlef> !restricted | p1n9v1n
[13:22] <smmsadrnezh> ?
[13:22] <meetaw> hi
[13:23] <meetaw> hi?
[13:23] <Pici> hi
[13:23] <totem> p1n9v1n, multimedia codec?
[13:23] <p1n9v1n> yes
[13:23] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:23] <p1n9v1n> mpeg2, xvid, mkv ...
[13:24] <Pici> smmsadrnezh: I'm unaware of a cli tool that can do just that, I usually use a combination of df -h and du -h (and maybe -s or --max-depth=1 depending on what I'm doing) to find out disk usage.
[13:24] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, see my comment
[13:25] <myk_robinson> morning. How do I suppress the startup sound? I disabled the login sound, but I would also like to disable the sound as the desktop is being rendered. Made the mistake of leaving the volume up loud, and wearing headphones when I started my laptop this morning
[13:25] <p1n9v1n> i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still no video in kaffeine
[13:25] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, what about mplayer, vlc and others
[13:26] <p1n9v1n> vlc is fine
[13:26] <ray_> Is Webmaker around?
[13:26] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, are you in Kubuntu ?
[13:26] <Macer> mkv is restricted?
[13:26] <p1n9v1n> ubuntu
[13:26] <p1n9v1n> maverick
[13:26] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, and mplayer ?
[13:26] <p1n9v1n> dont use it
[13:26] <Macer> mkv is  the best  container ever
[13:27] <capunk_> terry : capunk@capunk-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/squid stop
[13:27] <capunk_> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[13:27] <capunk_> utility, e.g. service squid stop
[13:27] <capunk_> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[13:27] <capunk_> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop squid
[13:27] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, yes, what happens when you try
[13:27] <FloodBot1> capunk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <p1n9v1n> mplayer is not installed, do kaffein need it ?
[13:28] <capunk_> floodbot1 ; allright
[13:28] <p0w4h> noobs
[13:28] <epril> how to make an ubuntu installation image with everything on it.. ? for example you have installed ubuntu on your laptop then you update everything putting necessary codecs and programs. then you want to make an installation image out of it so that you don't have to connect to the internet to download those you have downloaded already.
[13:28] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, no, its an alternate player. trying it could help to pinpoint the issue
[13:28] <meetaw> hi
[13:28] <p1n9v1n> ok i'll try
[13:28] <Jackneill> hi can you help me? i have vbox v4+ and ubuntu 10.10 in vbox, i use win7. i wanna to have different IP in ubuntu and win7, how to get that?
[13:28] <devish> question when I install a kernel-source-vanilla package should I change the sym links pointing at the kernel-source to the new kernel-source-vanilla
[13:29] <meetaw> Use ubuntu startup disk creator
[13:29] <meetaw> you can add software to it
[13:29] <Pici> p1n9v1n: Do you have the ibxine1-ffmpeg package installed?
[13:29] <Jackneill> when i use bridge mode in vbox, ubuntu cant connect to wireless network
[13:29] <bazhang> also libxine
[13:29] <atlef> epril, remastersys http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/
[13:29] <tadasbar> j
[13:30] <Pici> bazhang: yes, thanks, mispaste
[13:30] <epril> i will try.. thanks atlef
[13:30] <epril> meetaw: I will also try your suggestion
[13:30] <p1n9v1n> let me see ...
[13:30] <epril> meetaw: I will also try your suggestion
[13:31] <amin>  /msg NickServ REGISTER amin kraxadmin@gmail.com
[13:31] <p1n9v1n> Pici: yes i have it installed
[13:31] <meetaw> epril,Never mind remastersys is a better option
[13:31] <patrunjel> hi guys. Can someone please tell me how do a connect to an open wifi? I mean, from the command line
[13:31] <Jackneill> hi can you help me? i have vbox v4+ and ubuntu 10.10 in vbox, i use win7. i wanna to have different IP in ubuntu and win7, how to get that?
[13:32] <Jackneill> when i use bridge mode in vbox, ubuntu cant connect to wireless network
[13:32] <p1n9v1n> i installed mplyer, still no video in kaffeine
[13:32] <totem> amin, please don't used space before :)
[13:32] <bazhang> amin, time to change your password
[13:32] <Pici> amin: Try again, and use a better password please.
[13:32] <amin> doesn't work
[13:32] <epril> meetaw,  ok thanks :)
[13:32] <Pici> amin:
[13:32] <Pici> amin:
[13:33] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: when I enter df -h home/ for example it shows me size of /
[13:33] <Pici> amin: Argh, sorry. 'amin' is already registered to someone else.
[13:33] <amin> some one else is meeeee
[13:33] <Pici> smmsadrnezh: Thats because 'df' is for device usage.  Use du -hs /home/
[13:33] <patrunjel> hi guys. Can someone please tell me how do a connect to an open wifi? I mean, from the command line
[13:33] <amin> it is messed up
[13:34] <p1n9v1n> why command line?
[13:34] <Macer> if i bond nics and one disconnects does the network connection keep going?
[13:34] <terry> smmsadrnezh: df will show the usage of the partiton that /home is on.
[13:35] <terry> patrunjel: iwconfig
[13:35] <patrunjel> terry, can you please be more explicit? :)
[13:35] <terry> patrunjel: i.e. iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys ; dhclient wlan0
[13:35] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, what kind of stream is it? DVB mpeg2 of some sort, avc or what ... ?
[13:36] <greenguy> patrunjel da n0ai ceva interfata grafica
[13:36] <patrunjel> terry, what is linksys? :)
[13:36] <p1n9v1n> dvb mpeg2 satellite broadcast
[13:36] <terry> patrunjel: (where linksys is the essid of the router)
[13:36] <patrunjel> greenguy, nu, nu-mi apare conexiunea in gui
[13:36] <vanguard> how can i tell `gzip` that it should leave the original file where it is?
[13:37] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, from kafeine faq: "Live DVB playback only works with the xine engine. Go to Menu->Settings->Engine and choose "Kaffeine-Xine". Then restart Kaffeine."
[13:37] <greenguy>  gnome?
[13:37] <terry> patrunjel: Alternately you can do:  iwconfig wlan0 scanning  (Where wlan0 is your wifi device) (It could just as easily be eth1 or eth0)
[13:37] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=faq#question21
[13:37] <terry> patrunjel: iwconfig   without arguemnts will identify your wifi device
[13:38] <cowgoesmoo> i've just created a simple share on a windows machine on my network, 'everyone' has full access...when i choose "connect to a server" in ubuntu it asks for a user name and domain name...do i need to specify these?
[13:38] <terry> vanguard: It will do that by default.
[13:38] <Phong_> hi guys, i know it is off topic, but may i just ask once?  Is it required/proper to wear dress suite to Career Fair ?
[13:38] <brontosaurusrex> cowgoesmoo, windows 7?
[13:38] <Pici> Phong_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:38] <cowgoesmoo> bronto: yeah
[13:38] <vanguard> terry: no, it replaces my test.txt with a test.txt.gz
[13:39] <vanguard> terry: but I would like to have both
[13:39] <patrunjel> terry, no, it's wlan0 :) . But what is dhclient? I mean, should I replace it with something, or just write it down?
[13:39] <brontosaurusrex> brokendatapoint, i just remember reading something about samba and win7..., and that there is some sort of problem, but i cant recall where or what was the solution ...
[13:40] <terry> patrunjel: You will need to preface those comands with sudo.  dhclient - Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Client
[13:40] <cowgoesmoo> ok. i specified everyone as the username and now it's asking for the "WORKGROUP" domain password...but i don't recall ever setting one :S
[13:40] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: how to find size of file? that's work
[13:40] <Prolac> are there any limitations in ubuntu netbook remix compared to regular ubuntu?
[13:41] <Pici> vanguard: gzip -c test.txt > test.txt.gz
[13:41] <patrunjel> terry, now i get SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.. what should I do? :)
[13:41] <Pici> smmsadrnezh: ls -lh filename?
[13:42] <brontosaurusrex> i meant cowgoesmoo ..., sorry brokendatapoint
[13:42] <terry> patrunjel: dhclient will query for a dhcp server.  If it finds one, it will ask for IP information, (IP address, gateway address, and nameserver addresses).  When the dhcp server responds, the IP information is used to configure your system to access the new network.
[13:42] <Pici> vanguard: -c will send gzip's output to stdout, and you can do what you want with it from there.
[13:42] <cowgoesmoo> thanks bronto...i'll go and see what google finds
[13:42] <vanguard> Pici: thanks!
[13:42] <terry> patrunjel: If an operation is not supported, that means you just can't do it.
[13:43] <capunk_>  /msg Nickserv help
[13:43] <brontosaurusrex> cowgoesmoo, this thread says 'solved' http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/75-63-windows-samba-issue
[13:43] <terry> patrunjel: Was it scanning that was not supported?
[13:44] <patrunjel> terry, no, i can scan, i wrote in console iwconfig wlan0 essid <linksys> ; dhclient wlan0
[13:44] <patrunjel> terry,  and I get that :)
[13:44] <brontosaurusrex> cowgoesmoo, maybe this http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/75-63-windows-samba-issue#t1444
[13:44] <nacho_> hola
[13:44] <terry> patrunjel: I didn't understand your question.
[13:45] <Pici> patrunjel: Are you using sudo with that?
[13:45] <patrunjel> Pici yes, i have switched to root :)
[13:46] <patrunjel> terry,  i wrote iwconfig wlan0 essid RG54SE ;  dhclient wlan0
[13:46] <terry> patrunjel: Did you get conected?
[13:46] <patrunjel> terry, and I get SET failed on device wlan0 ; operation not supported
[13:46] <shavit> :nick
[13:47] <patrunjel> terry, no, and I also got wlan0 : unknown hardware adress type 803       two times :)
[13:47] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: when I enter "du -hs root" it shows me 280G
[13:47] <terry> patrunjel: What does iwconfig say?  (With no arguments)
[13:48] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: but there is nothing in this directory!!!
[13:48] <devish> do i have to install any ide or s/w to run my programs in python
[13:48] <patrunjel> terry, please wait a second, so I put the ethernet cable in the netbook (on wich i am trying to make wifi work) so I can pastebin the output
[13:48] <p1n9v1n> woul it help if i install codec pack from mplayer's website?
[13:48] <[TK]D-Fender> devish: Yes... you need python
[13:48] <patrunjel> terry, just a second :)
[13:49] <terry> patrunjel: Yea ok.  iwconfig | pastebinit
[13:49] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, based on the faq no, since it uses xine engine only for DVB
[13:50] <ben123> Does anyone know how I can check which kind of memory I have, i.e. DDR1, DDR2 and how many slots the machine has, thx
[13:50] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: when I enter "du -hs root" it shows me 280G but there is nothing in this directory!!!
[13:50] <Wolframn> ben123: Laptop?
[13:50] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, also mplayer should play mpeg2 natively, no need for codec packs, so no again
[13:50] <ben123> Wolframn: actually server
[13:50] <Besogon> ben123: Look at start up on the screen
[13:50] <patrunjel_> terry, i'm back :)
[13:50] <Pici> smmsadrnezh: Where are you doing that?
[13:50] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, can you open that stream in mplayer directly?
[13:51] <Besogon> ben123: boot up I wanted to say
[13:51] <ben123> Besogon: Do not really want to restart
[13:51] <p1n9v1n> how to open it?
[13:51] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: /
[13:51] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, let me google ...
[13:51] <devish> ben there is something like meminfo google it
[13:51] <ben123> Tried hwinfo, but not very detailed
[13:51] <patrunjel_> terry, here is the output of iwconfig : http://pastebin.com/dijTAq5N
[13:52] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: in tty1 and directory /
[13:52] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/MPlayer#Watching_DVB_Streams
[13:52] <web_knows> hi
[13:52] <erUSUL> ben123: sudo lshw -C memory
[13:52] <p1n9v1n> terminal>mplayer -vid x?
[13:52] <ben123> devish: you mean /proc/meminfo? Just tells something about amounts of memory
[13:52] <terry> patrunjel_: is this a laptop or desktop?
[13:52] <patrunjel_> terry, it's a notebook
[13:52] <brontosaurusrex> p1n9v1n, try just "mplayer dvb://"
[13:53] <patrunjel_> terry, so yeah, it's a laptop :)
[13:53] <devish> ben123: cat proc/meminfo
[13:53] <p1n9v1n> ok i'll try
[13:53] <devish> ben123: cat /proc/meminfo
[13:53] <terry> patrunjel_: It appears to be off.  Do you know where the button or switch is to trun the wifi on?  (Or the keystroke combination...)
[13:53] <ben123> devish: yea, tells me about memory amounts, I want to know about DDR1, DDR2, slots
[13:53] <devish> ben123: try uname -a
[13:54] <vanguard> if I post to a mailinglist for linux users, should I rather send attachments in plain, gzip'd or bzip2'd?
[13:54] <patrunjel_> terry, nope...but wait a second, I can try looking over it, and searching google
[13:54] <ben123> erUSUL: lshw is great, thank you very much!
[13:54] <erUSUL> vanguard: what kind of attachment?
[13:54] <LetsGo67> Hello chat room! https://bell.ca/home/Home_L_Login.page does not work for me in Opera. Can someone help me please?
[13:54] <ben123> problem solved, I think :)
[13:54] <vanguard> erUSUL: logfile, plain ASCII
[13:55] <brontosaurusrex> LetsGo67, thats not an ubuntu related
[13:55] <ben123> thx to all others as well
[13:55] <p1n9v1n> Failed to open dvb:// :(
[13:55] <vanguard> LetsGo67: does it work in other browsers
[13:55] <erUSUL> vanguard: if it is too big to go inline use bzip2
[13:55] <terry> LetsGo67: Try firefox
[13:55] <LetsGo67> BrontosaurusRex: It's the Ubuntu browser.  The problem's not in Chromium vanguard & terryh.
[13:55] <terry> p1n9v1n: Try   dvd:
[13:56] <vanguard> erUSUL: can I somewhere read up the pro/cons for gzip/bzip2 somewhere?
[13:56] <LetsGo67> terry: Fx4 says "connection not certified".  It is begging me to "get me out of here!"
[13:56] <thien> my Update Manager do not show the button to update ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10. how to?
[13:56] <LetsGo67> This is Bell the largest ISP/phone/TV in Canada LetsGo67.
[13:57] <LetsGo67> They even have a roaming agreement with TELUS
[13:57] <terry> p1n9v1n: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4
[13:57] <LetsGo67> i.e: TELUS uses some Bell HSPA towers, vice-versa, TELUS uses Bell Sattelite TV...
[13:57] <terry> LetsGo67: accept the cert
[13:57] <LetsGo67> terry: Why does it say that?
[13:57] <smmsadrnezh> Pici: / directory
[13:58] <Pici> smmsadrnezh: so /root/ does exist
[13:58] <LetsGo67> terry: Typing www.Bell.ca fixes it.
[13:58] <cowgoesmoo> brontosaurusrex: got it working...i wanted to share direct between 2 VMs, rather than go via the windows 7 host...installing samba through the software center let's me create a share on the ubuntu VM that the other VM can access straight off with no problems
[13:58] <terry> LetsGo67: for your edification
[13:58] <p1n9v1n> Package 'libdvdcss2' has no installation candidate
[13:58] <jrib> !dvd | p1n9v1n
[13:58] <terry> jrib: Tnx
[13:58] <LetsGo67> terry: but not in Opera.  How is that supposed to edify me?
[13:59] <p1n9v1n> dvd playback is fine
[13:59] <erUSUL> vanguard: bzip2 compress more but it is slower
[13:59] <terry> LetsGo67: By reading the information, understanding it etc.
[13:59] <patrunjel> terry, i couldn't find anything... but there is a little LED turned on, next to it there is a symbol that looks like two circles
[13:59] <brontosaurusrex> cowgoesmoo, cool
[13:59] <LetsGo67> terry: Does that mean Bell is not secure, Bell's certificate is expired, etc.?
[14:00] <terry> LetsGo67: Is the time correct on your PC?
[14:00] <LetsGo67> terry: It's NTP synced.
[14:00] <cowgoesmoo> there's definitely something weird with how windows 7 handles smb...typical, lol
[14:00] <greenguy> !ati unity
[14:00] <bazhang> p1n9v1n, medibuntu.org has the package
[14:00] <terry> LetsGo67: Time and date... are they correct?
[14:00] <vanguard> erUSUL: that is what I have gathered so far, both are practiacally ubiquitous, right? So using gzip for compatablility does not make too much sense? And even vim can open both directly.
[14:00] <greenguy> ! ati radeon
[14:00] <erUSUL> vanguard: well in linux it is ubiquitous yes
[14:00] <brontosaurusrex> cowgoesmoo, personally i totaly refuse to play with anything that even remotely smells like windows networking ...
[14:01] <erUSUL> !ati
[14:01] <patrunjel> terry, i mean, a circle looks like the on/off symbol, and the other one is just a cirle...and they look like you would watch them on a 45 degree angle or something
[14:01] <LetsGo67> terry: Yes, they are synced with Ubuntu.
[14:01] <patrunjel> terry, but there was a command that started wifi... wait a second, i will show it to you
[14:01] <terry> patrunjel: Try using it and then do iwconfig and see if the output changes.
[14:01] <LetsGo67> terry: they should be, at least.
[14:01] <p1n9v1n> i timeshifted and it saved a file in my home diractory which i can play
[14:01] <cowgoesmoo> brontosaurusrex: yeah it's always hard work...i tend to lean towards using stuff like LogMeIn or vnc with copy/paste features...just less painful
[14:02] <vanguard> erUSUL: okay, in a 14K log file it does not really make any difference (both get it down to 2.4K). I'll just weigh off time/space for each task. Thx!
[14:02] <terry> LetsGo67: Then you are good to go.  If the cert is ok accept it.
[14:02] <p1n9v1n> but video section in kaffeine is transparent
[14:03] <patrunjel> terry, it's airmon-ng start wlan0  *this is the command i was talking about*
[14:04] <cyoz> alright, I feel I'm getting more confident with apt-get but how does it work exactly.. is there one central service that keeps track of all available apps?
[14:04] <cyoz> I mean it goes beyond the software center right?
[14:04] <LetsGo67> terry: Why does www.Bell.ca work but not Bell.ca in Firefox?
[14:04] <terry> patrunjel: I am not familiar with airmon-ng
[14:04] <syrinx_> cyoz: do some research on repositories
[14:04] <patrunjel> terry, here is the pastebin of the new output of iwconfig : http://pastebin.com/w2g4W8Pw
[14:04] <syrinx_> that should explain everything
[14:05] <terry> LetsGo67: Not sure, firefox usually will add www when needed.  Mine does.
[14:06] <LetsGo67> Terry: Yet i have Fx4.
[14:06] <brontosaurusrex> terry, LetsGo67 i think that www and nowww are basically two different domains, one could host two different sites on them...
[14:07] <cyoz> syrinx_, thanks
[14:07] <terry> patrunjel: What chipset is it?  (use lspci to see)
[14:07] <cyoz> it's amazing
[14:07] <cyoz> why doesn't windows have that?
[14:07]  * syrinx_ shrugs
[14:07] <terry> brontosaurusrex: aaahhhh ok....
[14:08] <LetsGo67> brontosaurusrex: So maybe i ought to contact Bell regarding this.  TELUS and others do not have this issue.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> cyoz:  apple is moveing that way.. and ive seen similer things for windows.
[14:08] <syrinx_> I guess that would be considered !ot
[14:08] <terry> LetsGo67: What country are you in?
[14:08] <brontosaurusrex> LetsGo67, yes, but 1st check whats with the browser and its security behaviours and also whats up with adding www automagically...
[14:09] <LetsGo67> Terry: Canada.  Accessing the site via TELUS Mobility Internet.
[14:10] <rishi_> Hey guys
[14:10] <patrunjel> terry, there is a lot of info...i don't know where to look :) the best that i could find is the ethernet controller :(
[14:10] <rishi_> Need a bit of help
[14:10] <syrinx_> what's up rishi_
[14:10] <rishi_> Is there a way for me to downgrade from 11.04 to 10.10?
[14:10] <bazhang> rishi_, no
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> !downgrade | rishi_
[14:10] <greygjhart> I don't like getting connected  on a chan without asking for it just cause I'm using a live CD
[14:11] <brontosaurusrex> LetsGo67, for example mozilla has a weird unicode domain name policy, while chrome does try to figure out things automagically
[14:11] <rishi_> Ah ok, so if I want to get back to 10.10 I'd have to reinstall the entire system right?
[14:11] <terry> LetsGo67: So, you may see a different behavour than some of the rest of us, (as in me, from different isp and different country).
[14:11] <bazhang> rishi_, yes
[14:11] <rishi_> Alright, thanks guys :)
[14:11] <terry> patrunjel: ethernet controller is NOT it.
[14:11] <LetsGo67> Terry: Does "mobile Internet key" have anything to do with it?
[14:12] <patrunjel> terry, yeah, sorry :) i found it : 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[14:12] <botcity> patrunjel, mon0 mon1 are normal devices that are set up through airmon-ng it explains all in the man pages etc
[14:13] <LetsGo67> brontosaurusrex: Why is there incompatability?
[14:13] <brontosaurusrex> LetsGo67, two different dev teams?
[14:13] <patrunjel> botcity, so should i try to connect mon0 to the wifi source?
[14:13] <terry> patrunjel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600097   maybe useful info.
[14:14] <KM0201> patrunjel, there's been a lot of people having problems w/ that device.. it doesnt hook up like the normal 4312 (lp-phy.. i think has somehting to do w/saving battery life)
[14:14] <jarvis_> hi all
[14:14] <terry> patrunjel: Maybe not, it's too old.
[14:15] <KM0201> terry, its not to old... its a different device.. the normal 4312, those instructions would work fine.. its the lp-phy what causes the issue.
[14:15] <terry> patrunjel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620  (This is much newer)
[14:16] <terry> patrunjel: Or this:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/broadcom-bcm4312-firmware-in-ubuntu-10-10-beta-834640/
[14:16] <patrunjel> terry, so should i try to install the kernel-thingy? :)
[14:17] <Ramada> So I installed Ubuntu on this computer from a flash drive but now I can't get back onto WIndows :(
[14:17] <Ramada> Help?
[14:17] <KM0201> patrunjel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1733538 (similar situatino exists under 10.10)
[14:18] <syrinx_> Ramada: no boot menu?
[14:18] <patrunjel> KM0201, i use 10.10 :)
[14:18] <KM0201> patrunjel, i'm aware of that, and the same problem exists under 10.10
[14:18] <Ramada> syrinx_, nope. It goes straight to Ubuntu.
[14:18] <syrinx_> !grub | Ramada
[14:19] <KM0201> patrunjel, if you look in the repositories, there's a special b43 firmware for the lp-phy devices.. but i can never get it to work right
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  tap shift like a tapdancer.. just as its booting and it should show a grubn menu. The auto hide feature is disableable in the grub configs
[14:19] <Ramada> I'm on 10.10 Maverick.
[14:20] <Ramada> Dr_Willis, how would I set Windows as default?
[14:20] <terry> patrunjel: Looks like they are pointing to this: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  then for some odd reason it may not be showing windows in the grub menu. thats fixable in some ways. but it should auto-add it. You could try reruning 'sudo update-grub' and see if it sees it
[14:20] <Ramada> Is there a grub.cfg that I can edit?
[14:20] <terry> !broadcom | patrunjel
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  you edit the proper grub2 configs. not grub.cfg
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> !grub1 |
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | Ramada
[14:20] <KM0201> terry, patrunjel keep trying to tell you guys, that !broadcom link, will not work w/ the lp-phy's..
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> theres also a forum thread on using grub.  with lots of info
[14:21] <patrunjel> KM0201, so  what do you recommend doing?
[14:21] <p1n9v1n> i'm back
[14:21] <terry> patrunjel: Yea that is what  you need:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:21] <KM0201> terry, no thats not what he needs
[14:21] <terry> KM0201: Oh?
[14:21] <KM0201> terry, i've said it like 8x.. and you just keep repeating yourself..lol
[14:22] <KM0201> read his device agian.. and note the lp-phy   stop searchign for broadcom 4312, and search for broadcom 4312 lp-phy   then you'll be enlightened
[14:22] <terry> Well, I tell you what I do when I get a laptop with a broadcom wifi device.  I replace it.
[14:22] <p1n9v1n> is there any way to change refresh rate on old CRT monitor?
[14:23] <patrunjel> KM0201, terry  for example, i can see a crypted wifi connection, but airodump-ng showed me an uncrypted one, but it doens't show in the upper-right (where the network connections are showed) and that's why i was trying to make it work for the terminal
[14:23] <KM0201> terry, broadcomes work fine, its just those lp-phy devices are causing issues (something to do w/ power saving/battery life)
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> p1n9v1n:  used to be xorg.conf settings to do that.
[14:23] <izinucs> !resolution | p1n9v1n
[14:23] <terry> KM0201: So basically, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php  is what he needs.  Right?
[14:24] <KM0201> terry, no, read through the list of supported devices, lp-phy is not suppoted
[14:24] <p1n9v1n> i have a lot questions, sorry
[14:24] <DND> hi guys, i wanted to create a script that will restart a service if the free memory is around 8mb
[14:24] <Inumedia> Damn  I coulda sworn Notepad++ was cross-platform D:
[14:24] <LetsGo67> Bye room!
[14:24] <KM0201> patrunjel, just because a network is unencrypted, it can still choose not to broadcast the ESSID... you can try connecting to a "hidden network".. and see if you can connect to it.;
[14:26] <Ramada> Dr_Willis, so I restarted and was able to access the grub menu but no Windows item.
[14:26] <patrunjel> KM0201, every button is inactive when i try to do that. I deeded to connect to the network just because i need some acces to the internet, and i thought that i can connect to an unencrypted network :*(
[14:26] <terry> KM0201: He has  BCM4312
[14:27] <KM0201> terry, are you talking just to hear yourself talk?.. i have said multiple times, what the problem is with his device, and why your search is failing
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  hhave you done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  'sudo update-grub' recently?
[14:27] <KM0201> terry, again... it is not a 4312, it is a 4312 lp-phy  there is a difference
[14:27] <terry> KM0201: I'm not talking at all, I'm typing.
[14:27] <KM0201> terry, ..
[14:28] <Ramada> Dr_Willis, I just did a fdisk -l and found that there is nothing that says Windows. Did I accidentally overwrite it?
[14:28] <Cygfrydd> net
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  sudo fdisk -l, and there should be some NTFS or fat/vfat partitons.
[14:28] <KM0201> patrunjel, terry anyway... there is a special firmware int he repositories for that device (firmware-b43-lpphy) for the lpphy devices.. but it doesn't seem to work for some reason
[14:29] <Ramada> Dr_Willis: Linux, Extended and Linux Swap.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Ramada:  perhaps you did delete it then
[14:29] <Ramada> sda1, sda2, and sda5 respectively.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda1   *           1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[14:29] <Ramada> :(
[14:29] <Ramada> Sad face.
[14:29] <KM0201> !info firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[14:30] <Ramada> Fudggie.
[14:30] <Arek> #blender3d.pl
[14:30] <patrunjel> KM0201, i have already installed it :)
[14:30] <KM0201> patrunjel, terry see that last ubottu output.. if it was the same as the 4312... the normal b43 driver would work
[14:30] <KM0201> patrunjel, the regular b43 driver, or the b43 lpphy?
[14:30] <mongy> ah the old b43 vs wl :)
[14:31] <KM0201> mongy, b43 works fine, when you'r enot using the lp devices.. :)
[14:32] <mongy> KM0201, sadly, he and I are
[14:32] <KM0201> mongy, yup.. you had any luck w/ it?
[14:32] <patrunjel> KM0201, the lpphy one, why? is there any difference?
[14:32] <mongy> KM0201, b43?  not since last I tried, its junk.  I stick to whats always worked since 9.04 (bcmwl)
[14:33] <mongy> well, 8.04 actuall
[14:33] <KM0201> patrunjel, i have said multiple times wht the difference is... lpphy  is some sort of power saving function broadcom put into the chipsets to help w/ battery life...
[14:33] <patrunjel> KM0201, so should i install the other one? the one without lpphy?
[14:33] <KM0201> patrunjel, it makes it different than the normal 4312 (which works flawlessly w/ ubuntu, after you activate the STA driver)
[14:34] <patrunjel> KM0201, i don't really care about the battery life,as long as i can actually use the wifi :P
[14:34] <mongy> I dont know about any other model, but the 4312 LP does really need the STA , imo
[14:34] <KM0201> patrunjel, now if you have the lpphy device, why on earth would yo install a driver for a totally different device..
[14:34] <KM0201> patrunjel, the normal b43 driver will NOT WORK...
[14:34] <KM0201> mongy, unfortunately, i haven't had luck getting it working w/ STA either
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> ive had to tell  my systems to use STA over b43 befor also i recall.
[14:35] <patrunjel> KM0201, it was recommended when i installed the OS :)
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> I no longer have that laptop.
[14:35] <patrunjel> KM0201, so is there any way i can use my wifi? :))
[14:35] <mongy> KM0201, even tried the lpphy firmware in debian, no luck.  compiled bcmwl and good to go
[14:35] <KM0201> patrunjel, someone didn't know what they were talking about, or they thought you had a normal 4312 (which works fine w/ the b43)
[14:35] <KM0201> patrunjel, i've yet to get it working w/ 10.10  but honestly, i've not put a ton of effort into it...
[14:36] <patrunjel> KM0201, maybe with 11.04 it will work :))
[14:36] <KM0201> patrunjel, last i checked, the STA driver from broadcom, did not support that device.
[14:36] <KM0201> patrunjel, very unlikey (at this point) there's still complaints in +1 about it not working.
[14:37] <patrunjel> KM0201, i don't really know what a STA driver is, but i guess you're right :) (you sound right :P )
[14:37] <KM0201> patrunjel, although one person said he got his working after upgrading to 11.04, by resetting his router, and recreating his network...
[14:37] <mongy>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) is what Im using, with STA..
[14:37] <patrunjel> KM0201, i don't have a router, it's the wifi card in my netbook :)
[14:37] <KM0201> mongy, and you got it working?... thats actually the firstive heard that.. perhaps you can help patrunjel
[14:38] <KM0201> patrunjel, i see..
[14:38] <mongy> tried b43 as well in my dell mini 9, yet again since 8.04 ive had to use STA to have it work flawless
[14:38] <minimec> KM0201: Did not follow the entire story, but using WPA I would try to limit access to either TKIP or AES, but never both. I would first try AES...
[14:38] <KM0201> mongy, like i said, have had zero luck getting that device to work.. (but like i said, i've not really looked into it)
[14:38] <minimec> KM0201: ... on the router...
[14:38] <mongy> KM0201, i've directed a lot of people towards the STA driver in the past :)
[14:38] <KM0201> minimec, its not a security protocol issue.
[14:39] <mongy> he should just activate the sta driver and be done with it.
[14:39] <KM0201> mongy, well, like i said, last i checked (month or so ago) it didn't list support for the lp-phy
[14:39] <minimec> KM0201: I had stability problrms with two of my wifi devices and using AES only solved my problem...
[14:39] <terry> KM0201: patrunjel has the BCM4312 chip
[14:39] <KM0201> mongy, if that worked for you, thats great, but i've tried "just activating the STA driver" w/o luck on that device
[14:39] <KM0201> terry, at this point, i'm don talking to you, cuz i don't think you grasp the conversation
[14:39] <mongy> KM0201, well as far as this laptop goes Ive had since just before 9.10 surfaced, sta worked fine
[14:40] <patrunjel> KM0201, so this means that i can't even connect to the wifi networks listed in the network connections tab (in the upper part of the screen)
[14:40] <terry> patrunjel: Maybe it is working and you are just unable to connect to the router.  You might try restartring the router (as KM0201 suggested), I don't know that will change anything but I suppose you could try.
[14:40] <KM0201> patrunjel, if your experience is similar to mine.. yes.. the lp-phy did not work w/ the STA driver... the normal 4312 (which I have also) works flawlessly
[14:41] <KM0201> terry, ..lol, your mouse has a scroll wheel on it... scroll back to the beginnning of this conversation, and read it.. then you won't repeat yourself w/ stuff thats been covered (at least 3x)
[14:41] <terry> KM0201: If you would stick to sharing information you'd be a lot better off.
[14:41] <mongy> I thought broadcom made it open source ages ago, if so, why is this still a problem :(
[14:42] <KM0201> terry, if you stick to stop repeating stuff multiple times, i'd be less frustrated
[14:42] <alabd> Good day  all , I(humble) want to use buddy pounces  in pidgin to log when a buddy signs on and signs off , buddy pounce can run a command while a buddy signs off/on , but how to use this ability for creating logs?
[14:42] <patrunjel> KM0201, is it possible to replace the wifi chip from a Acer Aspire One (tis is the one that i'm trying to convice to get wifi) with one that's working? (that can actually get some wifi? :P )
[14:42] <KM0201> mongy, again, i don't really know.. if you look on broadcom's site, at the STA driver, it says the lp-phy does not work.. so how you got it w/ STA, is a mystery in a riddle.. :)
[14:42] <ikonia> alabd: you asked this earlier and where told where to go
[14:42] <KM0201> patrunjel, unlikely.
[14:42] <syrinx_> patrunjel: are you using the LiveCD/USB?
[14:42] <terry> KM0201: Maybe you should switch to decaf ?
[14:43] <KM0201> patrunjel, your best bet in that scenario, would be to find a USB device that works
[14:43] <patrunjel> syrinx_, no, i have ubuntu installed
[14:43] <syrinx_> oh
[14:43] <mongy> KM0201, Ive always had it work, with other models also.    I never knew it was not meant to......
[14:43] <syrinx_> i have that netbook
[14:43] <syrinx_> wifi works fine
[14:44] <genii-around> patrunjel: which model of the Aspire One ?
[14:44] <patrunjel> KM0201, you mean a USB that is actually a wifi capture card, and use that instead of the onboard one? (sorry, i'm not good at all with this kind of things :) )
[14:44] <KM0201> i'm interested in hearing how you guys got this device working... cuz like i said, i've read multiple problem threads w/ that device...
[14:44] <SixtyFold> just buy a EEE PC and your problem's solved :P
[14:44] <KM0201> patrunjel, yes, a usb wireless adapter
[14:44] <terry> syrinx_: Why don't you pastebin some info for us, lmsod lspci iwconfig
[14:44] <alabd> ikonia: yes but was there any answer ?
[14:44] <patrunjel> KM0201, thank a lot for the tips :)
[14:45] <ikonia> alabd: there was, you where told you had to script it, you where also told to ask in #pidgin
[14:45] <KM0201> patrunjel, follow some of the others who say they ahve that device working... i honestly have my doubts, but if they do.. see if they have any suggestions
[14:45] <syrinx_> terry: because it's at my house
[14:45] <terry> syrinx_: O
[14:45] <alabd> ikonia: asked in pidgin and also asked what kind script I(humble) am not programmer
[14:45] <syrinx_> yea :(
[14:45] <KM0201> syrinx_, are you sure its the 4312 lp-phy ?
[14:45] <ikonia> alabd: that's not an ubuntu issue, so #pidgin is the correct place to ask
[14:46] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I'm trying to use wget to download some website content and I'd like to ignore certain file types (pdf, exe, dmg, jpg, gif, png, etc).. is there a way to ignore file types with wget?
[14:46] <patrunjel> KM0201, the best way to test it is to find a friend with a router, and test everything (and make it work) in a controlled environment, to say so... i'm now trying to acces some wifi that isn't mine...so maybe it has some sort of passwords and stuff...
[14:46] <mongy> KM0201, I dont know how you have not had it working myself.  Its always worked for me and its fixed a few peoples wifi problems Ive helped in here and elsewhere.
[14:46] <botcity> KM0201,  acer aspire one  different models different chips mine is a Atheros AR9285
[14:46] <Corey> JeffJassky: There's an exclude flag.
[14:46] <syrinx_> not sure, I see no reason why it shouldn't work though :(
[14:46] <KM0201> botcity, the atheros works fine.. thats not really part of the discussion
[14:47] <patrunjel> KM0201, butif my wireless card doesn't work, how come i can scan with aerodump-ng
[14:47] <JeffJassky> Corey: Thanks! I'll look that up.
[14:47] <KM0201> mongy, like i said.. if you google broadcom 4312-lpphy   there's a lot of threads about it... its not just me.
[14:47] <KM0201> patrunjel, i don't use aerodump, have no ide.
[14:47] <alabd> ikonia: my question is that how a script can create a log file and each time logs something in ubuntu/linux , it's not related to pidgin now  ,
[14:47] <terry> patrunjel: That is possible. ( You should pastebin lspci )
[14:48] <ikonia> alabd: that is already logged in the syslog
[14:48] <mongy> KM0201, the b43-lpphy or the wl
[14:48] <patrunjel> KM0201, it's like wireshark, but for wifi. The thing is that it actually captures packets and stuff, so the chip works.. .(i guess)
[14:48] <KM0201> patrunjel, i know what it is, i just don't use it.
[14:48] <alabd> ikonia: want seprate log file
[14:48] <ikonia> alabd: why ?
[14:48] <mongy> KM0201, b43/b43-fwcutter and all the like are junk to me.  STA (wl) driver always works
[14:49] <SixtyFold> so he can stalk his girlfriend while he is sleeping, haha
[14:49] <ikonia> SixtyFold: please don't be silly, it's worthless comments that don't help
[14:49] <patrunjel> terry, here is the lspci output : http://pastebin.com/TLn0HfK4
[14:49] <KM0201> mongy, i've never had problems w/ the normal b43 driver... it has always worked fine (as has the STA).. but neither has worked w/ the lp-phy device.. for me
[14:49] <mongy> KM0201, idk then.  'just works' here.
[14:49] <KM0201> mongy, if you look in the repositories, there's a special firmware for the lp devices....
[14:50] <mongy> KM0201, I know, I tried it.  no good
[14:50] <KM0201> mongy, yup..
[14:50] <alabd> ikonia: see pidgin can run a command when a buddy sign on/off , ok , so now , am not able to write a script that can log time of runing itself each time
[14:52] <terry> patrunjel: If I were you, I'd find a well supported one on ebay, swap it out and then sell yours to someone else, (on ebay).  Some MS Windows user will do fine with it.
[14:53] <Macer> blah
[14:54] <KM0201> terry, since he's obviously interested in injection (which is a whole other issues) some devices might wrk flawlessly in connecting or even monitoring, but there's several that will do both of those, and don't work well (or at all) at injection
[14:54] <patrunjel> terry, haha :)) i'm fixing it one way or another...after easter i will go in front of a computer support shop (with free wifi) and just play with it until it works :P
[14:54] <mongy> has he even tried sta driver yet
[14:54] <KM0201> mongy, he said earlier he did..
[14:54] <KM0201> mongy, but granted, most of this conversation has been around the b43./
[14:54] <mongy> removed/blacklisted b43 first?
[14:55] <KM0201> patrunjel, did you try the STA driver
[14:55] <KM0201> brb..
[14:55] <patrunjel> KM0201, what's a STA driver, and how do I try it? :)
[14:56] <zaytsev> hi folks
[14:57] <zaytsev> anyone could recommend a service manager for maverick? should I use sysv-rc-conf?
[14:57] <zaytsev> I am under impression, that it does not cover upstart managed services
[14:57] <erUSUL> !upstart | zaytsev
[14:57] <erUSUL> zaytsev: correct.
[14:57] <zaytsev> erUSUL, so what do I use for upstart then?
[14:58] <terry> zaytsev: service
[14:58] <erUSUL> zaytsev: manual editting in /etc/init/*
[14:59] <zaytsev> erUSUL, oh that really sucks. at least dpkg will not change my *.conf files on update? hopefully it will present this diff dialog, right, that's how it works?
[15:00] <erUSUL> zaytsev: probably but i've not modified those startup scripts myself so ...
[15:00] <zaytsev> erUSUL, RHEL now uses upstart afaik, is there like a port of chkconfig for Ubuntu or so? manual editing just does sound so thrilling... how in the world there is no management tool for that :-/
[15:00] <zaytsev> erUSUL, ok, thanks anyway for the hint!
[15:01] <Aikar> anyone got an idea of why when i login my .bashrc isnt being ran, and source .bashrc says -sh: source: .bashrc: file not found  ... but the file exists O.o
[15:01] <erUSUL> zaytsev: i do not think RHEL switched to upstart ... they are doing its own thing ( systemd )
[15:01] <zaytsev> erUSUL, my impression was that they went for upstart in RHEL6 in sequential mode, but I might be wrong
[15:01] <erUSUL> Aikar: are you sure you are using bash ?
[15:02] <jubei-za> Hello all, just installed ubuntu server 10.04 and am trying to setup a DHCP server, when i try apt-get install dhcp3-server it does not find the package in the repository, how do i put it into the repository or how can i get a copy of dhcp3-server?
[15:02] <Aikar> erUSUL: yeah its symlinked
[15:02] <erUSUL> Aikar: bash will complain like this ┬½ bash: foo: No such file or directory ┬╗
[15:02] <zaytsev> Aikar, oh, that's also a recurring question of mine.. are we now supposed to use .profile and it should work?
[15:02] <mdpatrick> How do I place files in a user's folder (user2) while still being able to access/modify/read them from user1?
[15:03] <Aikar> ubuntu defaulted shell to /bin/sh which is symlinked to /bin/bash
[15:03] <Aikar> btw im running ubuntu 10.04 lts server
[15:03] <minimec> jubei-za: check /etc/apt/sources.list. do you have universe/multiverse activated?
[15:03] <erUSUL> Aikar: no; /bin/sh is dash by default and user's login shell is /bin/bash by default
[15:04] <Aikar> well ive changed the symlink to be bash
[15:04] <Aikar> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2011-03-19 23:14 /bin/sh -> /bin/bash*
[15:04] <jubei-za> hi minimec, i checked sources.list and i seem to have all the default repository information in there ... i have no clue what universe/multiverse is?
[15:04] <Aikar> https://gist.github.com/3a66ca52d426b6bf8430
[15:04] <jubei-za> am i correct in saying that dhcp3-server should be in the repositories?
[15:05] <minimec> jubei-za: check packages.ubuntu.com for available packages
[15:05] <mfilipe> why doesn't tomboy startup with ubuntu natty?
[15:05] <yomeister> Hey, is it possible to wake your pc up at a certain time. The pc has to wake up from standby or sutch...
[15:05] <jubei-za> minimec: do you mean add packages.ubuntu.com into the sources.list file?
[15:05] <gartral> hello all, i have a configuration question: my internal bluetooth radio starts on when i boot/reboot my computer.. how to i change it so that ubuntu starts with the radio off?
[15:06] <Aikar> interesting
[15:06] <erUSUL> Aikar: ok; that's fine. but what is your login shell ?
[15:06] <Aikar> editing /etc/passwd to just be /bin/bash fixed it...
[15:06] <Aikar> even tho /bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/bash O.o
[15:06] <thebuntutweaker> gartral, use blueman bluetooth manager
[15:06] <minimec> jubei-za: no. That is a website that shows you available packages with a search tool. You will also see in what repo it is. Like irssi chat software is in universe repo..
[15:06] <thebuntutweaker> gartral, apt-get install blueman
[15:06] <erUSUL> Aikar: bash does not behave the same when called as sh
[15:06] <Aikar> my login shell was set to /bin/sh before
[15:06] <Aikar> oh...
[15:06] <Aikar> that makes sense then
[15:06] <Aikar> thanks
[15:07] <FloodBot1> Aikar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <jubei-za> minimec: ok im gonna go find out what this universe/multiverse is all about, thanks for the help
[15:07] <St0n3-C0l> Hello, I am facing an strange issue with my router here on Linux...not sure how to set this up. The problem is that when I am connected through my router on Linux, certain pages/sites do not load up and sometimes I just get the simple text layout of the site...for example youtube.com, i just get text only. Secondly...this problem is not present when I am running through my router on Windows so I don't think there's some issue with the con
[15:07] <St0n3-C0l> figuration....but if I run through direct connection on Linux...everything works normally -- So no idea how do I fix this...
[15:07] <erUSUL> Aikar: don not edit passwd directly use "chsh"
[15:08] <Aikar> why, never had an issue with editing it before O.o
[15:08] <superman097> guys i have installed ubuntu 10.04 on my Dell Inspiron 4030 laptop
[15:08] <Pici> superman097: contrats
[15:08] <superman097> but i got a problem
[15:08] <syrinx_> lol
[15:08] <syrinx_> Pici: meanie
[15:08] <minimec> jubei-za: there is 'main' supported by canonical, 'universe/multiverse' supported by the community...
[15:09] <superman097> the system is not detected the ethernet LAN
[15:09] <minimec> jubei-za: also 'partners' for java, skype, ...
[15:09] <superman097> i typed the command ifconfig on the terminal
[15:09] <jubei-za> minimec: aaah ok makes sense, i just dont understand why dchp3-server is not in any of the default repositories
[15:10] <superman097> but the result is just loopback interface showed on me
[15:10] <kapipi> How do I get the daylight map from gnome clock in the unity clock?
[15:10] <jubei-za> minimec: it seems like it should be based on this link https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/dhcp.html
[15:11] <minimec> jubei-za: I don't know that for dhcp3-server, but packages.ubuntu.com will tell you.
[15:14] <jubei-za> minimec: ok ive located the package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/dhcp3-server) how do find out what the relevant repository is?
[15:15] <Aikar> is there a command i can run that simulates the "leave message" feature?
[15:15] <jubei-za> minimec: or should i just download manually?
[15:15] <jubei-za> minimec: im very new to ubuntu/linux so would prefer to use apt
[15:15] <Rick__> Im just about to install ubuntu just wondering peoples thoughts whether just go with 10.10 or wait for 11.04?
[15:15] <minimec> jubei-za: I cannot open links right now, but all information should be on that link you gave me.
[15:16] <Aikar> sshd in to my stepdads system and wanna just leave a message that says i did what he needed me to do lol. give him a lil shock when he sees it since hes not too comp literate lol...
[15:16] <kapipi>  Anyone know if the daylight map from gnome clock will be coming to the unity clock applet?
[15:16] <jubei-za> Rick_: Take the plunge its most fun
[15:17] <minimec> jubei-za: Packages available via packages.ubuntu.com are part of any ubuntu repository. Only thing is to activate the right 'sub'sources --> universe/multiverse...
[15:17] <gartral> hey, installing blueman still leaves me with a bluetooth radio that's on at boot
[15:17] <ImperialXT> Hey, having an issue in 10.10 x64 with my headphone jack sense not working (I think that's what it's called)
[15:17] <Rick__> jubei-za: take the plunge as n wait for 11.04?
[15:18] <jubei-za> Rick__: haha no take the plunge and install anything linux, im on ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server 10.04 LTS, but any version would do
[15:19] <Dreki> is there an updated repository for wireshark and kismet?
[15:19] <Rick__> fair to say 10.04 the most stable?
[15:20] <sacarlson> Dreki: what new feature am I missing with the old wireshark?
[15:20] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, I'm on 10.04 and it's in Lucid-Security/main in Synaptic
[15:21] <buff27> Rick__, well it's been around a yeah, it's stable and works, so does 10.10 and 11.04.....
[15:21] <sacarlson> Dreki: did you check ppa?
[15:21] <Aikar> so does anyone know how to invoke the "Leave note/message" feature on the lock screen by command?
[15:21] <Dreki> sacarlson 802.11N support
[15:21] <Dreki> i think
[15:21] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: im on 10.04 server, no gui installed
[15:21] <Dreki> N adapters anyway
[15:22] <jubei-za> im really confused with the repositories and multiverse/universe story, ive got to go do some reading :)
[15:22] <sacarlson> Dreki: I have used to to monitor trafic on wifi but those packets I may have missed I'm not sure
[15:22] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, what I'm saying is sudo apt-get will work for you
[15:22] <jubei-za> yeah thats what i thought, but it claims the packaged is not in the repository
[15:23] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, sudo apt-get dhcp3-common
[15:23] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: i tried apt-cache search dhcp3 and all i got was 2 client packages listed
[15:23] <Rick__> buff27: although 11.04 is still beta once its properly released my system will update fine?
[15:23] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: ye i got that packaged dhcp3-common is that the same as dhcp3-server?
[15:24] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, let me see, one sec
[15:24] <food> jubei-za: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:24] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: its not the same it one of the dependencies for dhcp3-server
[15:24] <jubei-za> food: will check it out quic
[15:25] <buff27> Rick__, yes it will and there is a chat room for it #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <jubei-za> food: tx
[15:25] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, not the same, you'll need to : sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[15:26] <Aikar> is it possible when i ssh into a pc to use say zenity to popup message box on the current X instance?
[15:26] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: lol i tried that, it says the package cannot be found in any epository
[15:26] <Aikar> (zenity:10195): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[15:26] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, heh
[15:27] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: which is really strange because from this link (https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/dhcp.html) its seems that it should be in there!
[15:27] <Combatjuan> Hello.  How do I remove my selection for sun-java-jre dlj?  Where is that stored?
[15:27] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: i know very weird
[15:27] <jubei-za> tjiggi: im running off a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 server and all ive configured is a pppoe connection and some ip adresses
[15:28] <Rick__> buff27: thanks
[15:28] <Combatjuan> The more general question is regarding debconf-set-selections: Where does it store the selections?
[15:29] <ImperialXT> Anyone know of any fixes for my speakers not getting muted when my headphones are plugged in? I've gone through so much stuff, and really running out of ideas and resources. Running 10.10 x64 Desktop
[15:29] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, I have it in Lucid-security/Main - your setup sounds lekker daft - maybe try adding repositories from some other mirror?
[15:29] <Combatjuan> ImperialXT: Have you ruled out hardware/BIOS?
[15:29] <ImperialXT> Combatjuan:
[15:29] <ImperialXT> yeah
[15:29] <ImperialXT> works fine in windows
[15:30] <OerHeks> !kvm
[15:30] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: when you say "Lucid-security/Main" are you talking about /etc/sources.list ?
[15:30] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, yep
[15:31] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: i have a line there "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main restricted"
[15:33] <food> Combatjuan: cant you uninstalll it through synpatic package manger?
[15:33] <Combatjuan> food: Yes.  But if I reinstall it, it knows that I've already accepted the license agreement.  I want it to have forgotten that.
[15:34] <Combatjuan> food: I'm testing a script that installs java and other packages.  I need to make sure that it correctly reads the settings from debconf-set-selections and doesn't ask the user for input.  The script /must/ run non-interactively.  And I can't test it again until Ubuntu forgets what I chose last time.
[15:35] <food> Combatjuan: when it is install look a the bottom of the synpatic package manager and there should be a tab for installed filles
[15:35] <food> Combatjuan: it is near the tab for description
[15:35] <Combatjuan> food: This is a headless box without X.
[15:36] <food> COmbatjuan: oh
[15:36] <gartral> Combatjuan: sounds like a job for vbox
[15:36] <Combatjuan> But I'll do the equivalent on one of my other machines and see what it looks like.
[15:37] <tjiggi_fo> jubei-za, If I were you I'd try at #ubuntu-za. Those guys will know what to do if yours is a sources problem
[15:37] <food> Combatjuan: I guess i have to look at the dpkg and apt-get man pages since i was always lazy to learn those option. I alreayd switched distros lol
[15:37] <jubei-za> tjiggi_fo: ok thanks for the help will ask there!
[15:38] <Combatjuan> food: I was a little surprised that the debconf-set-selections man page didn't say.  I grepped through /var/lib/dpkg/* and found the only two instances of the setting string there are in the license itself.
[15:38] <bibic682> Hello,   Anyone running 11.04 ?......comments  ?
[15:38] <allennewok> I use 8.04 always
[15:39] <XceptN> bibic682: I do run the latest beta - it is neat and quite robust. Still I need to get used to Unity
[15:39] <Chronotek> Thank you everyone for the help with the swap issue I had last night, it solved half the issue the helped me locate the other half
[15:40] <Dreki> how do i look for a PPA repository? im not sure what PPA is
[15:40] <genii-around> !ppa
[15:40] <mrgreaper> hi i have some major probs at mo , im installing ubuntu 10 10 on my mates pc over the phone lol i used teamviewer to download the 64bit iso then used the guide on the ubuntu site to create a usb drive, we rebooted the pc but it gave an error about no configuration loaded and just sat there at boot:
[15:40] <Neo_Kipling> hi, fellows, my cron trigger each session twice, anybody know why
[15:40] <bastidrazor> Dreki: the best way is to search for "PPA applicationname"
[15:40] <mrgreaper> any ideas how to fix?
[15:40] <bibic682> XceptN: I read a little about it....and I'm old school when it comes to desktop. A task bar on bottom and three icons on the screen in the top left  :)  I like to keep it simple
[15:42] <mrgreaper> if it helps im still on the phone to him, were back inot windows and im on teamviewer looking at the usb drive im guessing theres a step missing from the guide?
[15:42] <ImperialXT> mrgreaper:  I was having the same issue doing that install on this machine, I ended up just burning the iso
[15:42] <ImperialXT> I tried a few things
[15:42] <ImperialXT> including a different usb drive
[15:42] <ImperialXT> and yeah
[15:42] <ImperialXT> just ended up burning it
[15:42] <FloodBot1> ImperialXT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <XceptN> bibic632: Gnome 2.30 and KDE is still there at your disposal
[15:42] <mrgreaper> imperial unfortunatly he dont have a spare disc :(
[15:43] <ImperialXT> no idea then sorry
[15:43] <mrgreaper> he is hunting a disc at mo but he not sure the cd drive works lol
[15:43] <mrgreaper> must be a way to fix the usb stick method? any one
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> try differnt tools 5to make the usb stick.
[15:44] <hiexpo> usb works fine
[15:44] <bibic682> Xceptn: Buty it won't be installed by default
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> Ive had some usb drives not work on some machines. but work on other machines.
[15:44] <mrgreaper> what tool do you recommand
[15:44] <geirha> mrgreaper: I believe there may be some issues if you make it persistant (which I believe it becomes by default)
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  what one did you use last time?
[15:45] <mrgreaper> i used the guide here http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[15:45] <bibic682> Will it handle Flash video more efficiently.... I hate maxin out the cpu with some stop and starts
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu usb-disk creator tool can work. but ive had it fail. Unetbootin also works.. but ive had it fail also :)  then theres the pendrive linux site. it has tools to make a grub2 usb that boots iso files. or one that uses syslinux to make a bootable usb. I have better luck with those.
[15:46] <food> combatjuan: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/  dpkg -L package name
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> then theres alternatives to those like 'lili' (works ok, nasty interface, windows only)
[15:46] <geirha> mrgreaper: On "When starting up from this disk, documents and settings will be:", choose "Discarded on shutdown..."
[15:46] <mrgreaper> were not getting that far gerirha
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  the usb maker tool is having issues even making a flash drive?  thats what geirha  is refering to.
[15:47] <mrgreaper> ilituraly just followed the guide but cant get the usb drive to work, he just tested his cd drive it is dead as he suspected
[15:47] <mrgreaper> ah i see
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  what does the flash drive do exactly?
[15:47] <mrgreaper> well the flash drive apears to be made as im looking at it now
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> no menu? flashing _ ? fails in some other way?
[15:48] <mrgreaper> one sec he is rebooting the pc so i can give you the exact error
[15:48] <Neo_Kipling> hi, guys, cron trigger each session twice, and maybe this happening since i restarted X-org without reboot once, anybody know why
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> if you are using a NVIDIA chipset - i have often had to hit space when you see the little man/logo at the bottom. then hit F6 and use the Nomodeset option
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Neo_Kipling:  I wouldent think X would be affecting Cron Jobs.
[15:49] <hoopy_> /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-haze is eating up > 90% of CPU constantly.  pretty sure it's used by empathy... anybody know why it's pegging the CPU?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> !find telepathy-haze
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> !info telepathy-haze
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> libpurple = used by a lot of IM clients.
[15:50] <mrgreaper> it says the sys linux 4.03 the error is no configuration file found (under that ) no default or ui configuration directive found
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> No idea on the cpu issue however.
[15:50] <mrgreaper> then it just has boot:
[15:50] <hoopy_> dang :\
[15:51] <mrgreaper> no little man
[15:51] <hoopy_> it definitely is empathy... just closed the process and now htop isn't showing telepathy-haze
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  theres a bug i recall in the boot disk maker that makes an invalid syslinux.cfg file.
[15:51] <hoopy_> er... clsoed empathy
[15:51] <mrgreaper> if we go back to windows it shows the usb drive as install ubuntu
[15:51] <mrgreaper> can i make the file manualy?
[15:51] <hoopy_> i wonder if it has anything to do with it being a virtualbox
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  plug the flash drive  in the other pc, and look for a syslinux.cfg file. you need to edit one line i recall (from memory)
[15:52] <mrgreaper> were booting it back into windows now
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> why not jus tplug it into the pc you are using now. :)
[15:52] <Combatjuan> food: So you think that the selection is stored somewhere in the package's install files?  debconf-set-selection made it sound as though there were a database somewhere kept by apt.
[15:52] <mrgreaper> once its up ill put the config file into paste bin
[15:53] <dios_> Hello, i just installed ubuntu and netbeans for php/mysql purpose, im not familiar with linux nor ubuntu. Is there a item in the ubuntu software center that includes both php and mysql for local testing
[15:54] <dios_> maybe also includeing phpmyadmin
[15:54] <brontosaurusrex> phpmyadmin will need a web server as well dios_
[15:55] <brontosaurusrex> dios_ check "sudo tasksel"
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> mrgreaper:  i belive the fix is in  syslinux/syslinux.cfg  put a # at the start of the line that says 'default vesamenu.c32 '   You COULD try chanbging it to 'default live'
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> that should skip the fancy grub menu interface and just boot the live system.
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> this is an old bug that ive seen affect ubuntu for some time. Not sure what the deal is with iot
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> bbl. gotta help the wife move furinture
[15:56] <C4KL1M-2> hi all, is it true that canon is not going to run ubuntu project naymore?
[15:57] <brontosaurusrex> C4KL1M-2, true, canon will make DSLRs now
[15:57] <C4KL1M-2> whats DSLR?
[15:58] <Combatjuan> The file /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java54-jre.config seems to use functions from /usr/share/debconf/confmodule called "db_get" and "db_fset", but they use shell script foo beyond my comprehension.  I can't figure out what they are actually doing.
[15:58] <SnowmanX11> How can I get a list of installed codecs?
[15:58] <Neo_Kipling> Dr_Willis: thanks, and is this possible because i install the ecryptfs? I remember first i installed this pkg, then restarted X-org, when i reboot system, then cron session beginning repeat
[15:59] <mrgreaper> ok i change it to http://pastebin.com/Aq06Dmj0 removed the # at the end and added a hash at the default vasamenu.c32
[15:59] <mrgreaper> same error
[15:59] <brontosaurusrex> SnowmanX11, sorry, was joking, you meant canonical probably? :)
[16:01] <C4KL1M-2> @bronto , yes i mean canonical
[16:01] <SnowmanX11> brontosaurusrex: ??? I am looking for a command which make a list of installed multimedia codecs on my system
[16:01] <C4KL1M-2> * meant
[16:01] <mrgreaper> now trying it changed to default live
[16:01] <oCean> C4KL1M-2: offtopic chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:01] <mrgreaper> same error
[16:02] <AnanD_> s
[16:03] <mrgreaper> can it be installed from inside windows but told to boot directly into it?
[16:03] <mrgreaper> kinda stuck for ideas at mo
[16:03] <AnanD_> hello
[16:04] <MK``> can I use GNOME Shell with Compiz Fusion?
[16:05] <erUSUL> MK``: do not think so
[16:05] <MK``> Ok, thanks erUSUL
[16:05] <Teeko> anyone know what could cause this error: 20110425 15:05 ERROR [StartUp] Error in creating Database Object: could not find driver
[16:05] <AnanD_> is there any game engine that run in ubuntu ?
[16:05] <Teeko> cant find anything that could cause it :/
[16:06] <arand> AnanD_: Cube2 is one.. pygame.. ioquake..
[16:06] <erUSUL> AnanD_: id gmae engines do.
[16:06] <Pici> Teeko: It would help if you mentioned where you are getting that error.
[16:06] <AnanD_> untiy game engine for windows.  which can be installed in ubuntu?
[16:07] <arand> AnanD_: I think at least pygame is some form of engine, not perfectly sure
[16:07] <Teeko> in an ssh file
[16:07] <erUSUL> AnanD_: ogre ( free software )
[16:07] <Teeko> its from something called budabot, its a chat automation for a game i play
[16:07] <DexterF> hi
[16:07] <Teeko> i know it uses php and sqlite, and ive installed bothof those, cant find out anything else it would be dependent on :/
[16:07] <AnanD_> arand, erUSUL thank you
[16:08] <DexterF> is it possible that adobe flash in 9.10 is horribly broken after that latest update?
[16:08] <dabbish_> Why does this always return true? http://dpaste.com/535468/
[16:08] <mrgreaper> were now extracting the cd and using the usb creator on that as per a guide on the forums lol
[16:09] <brontosaurusrex> SnowmanX11, if you mean gstreamer stuff then try "gst-inspect"
[16:09] <voidr> hi, I installed Ubuntu 11.4 under virtualbox, it complained about the display driver so it disabled unity, but after I installed the drivers it still gives no option to switch back to unity, what should i do?
[16:09] <Pici> dabbish_: Thats probably a better question for #jquery or ##javascript
[16:09] <Pici> voidr : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:10] <dabbish_> Pici: oops, wrong channel
[16:10] <SixtyFold> what program is responsible for running the panels and applications/places/system bar part of ubuntu?
[16:10] <SixtyFold> it's currently frozen on me
[16:10] <dhab> gnome-panel?
[16:10] <Pici> SixtyFold: gnome-panel.
[16:10] <SixtyFold> thanks
[16:10] <SnowmanX11> brontosaurusrex: maybe. I will look for it, thanks.
[16:11] <Pici> SixtyFold: If you killall gnome-panel, it should start up again automagically.
[16:11] <SixtyFold> thanks pici, that was my plan, i just didnt know the name of it :D
[16:11] <ImperialXT> I'm gonna assume it's still not possible in gnome currently to have different wallpapers on each monitor without using gimp
[16:11] <SixtyFold> im all good now, thanks guys :D
[16:11] <patrunjel> guys, i have found in a book something like this : (while root) /usr/sbin/useradd -D . And that's all. So, the path (/usr/sbin/useradd) is to some kind of shell script, and it gets interpreted as a command, or how does it actually work?
[16:12] <dhab> hey guys, i've noticed some .log files on my desktop, and just realised they related to the LibreOffice crashs i've been having, should I be sending them somewhere?
[16:12] <erUSUL> !bugs | dhab
[16:12] <dhab> hrm
[16:12] <Pici> patrunjel: useradd is a binary, its not a script.
[16:13] <dhab> yep, thanks, its on line 11...
[16:14] <dhab> erUSUL: i can just delete them though when i'm done right?
[16:14] <erUSUL> dhab: probably; once you attached/uploaded them to launchpad...
[16:15] <Neo_Kipling> Hi, fellows, my cron trigger each session twice, exactly, i find out a screen session triggered by upstart also repeat twice. Maybe this happening since i installed ecryptfs and restarted X-org without reboot, anybody know why?
[16:15] <RajaTanpaCelana> ehmmm
[16:15] <RajaTanpaCelana> hello
[16:16] <dhab> oh, that was the other thing, do these .log files have sensitive information about me? passwords etc
[16:17] <MC8> Howdy, a friend of mine says that they accidentally clicked "remove from panel" and their whole topbar has disappeared. Does anyone know the command to get it back again/reset to default?
[16:17] <erUSUL> dhab: i doubt it free software people are very concerned about privacy. but can not say for sure
[16:18] <erUSUL> !panels | MC8
[16:19] <a-saint> hello guys i have a dvd sony cam any program recommended for importing the recorded dvd
[16:19] <ZenGuy> I need some help from some commandline gurus .. I want to move video files from a sub directory to 1 level up or to another directory at one time..like move file from sub, sub2, sub3, sub4 to directory 0
[16:19] <dhab> yep, i'm not familiar with the content of these files. about all i can make sense of is the bit about the number of cpus down the bottom :-), thanks again
[16:20] <ZenGuy> a-saint: dv-tape or actual dvd because i need help getting a dv tape imported
[16:20] <poptran> a
[16:21] <Pici> ZenGuy: Perhaps... find ./subpath/ -iname "*.whatever" -exec mv {} .. \;
[16:22] <ZenGuy> pici the sub directories are different names
[16:23] <ZenGuy> i don't mid if there is a command that will check all subdirectories
[16:23] <a-saint> ZenGuy it's a dvd not a mini dv
[16:24] <Pici> ZenGuy: Then just use . instead of ./subpath/
[16:24] <oCean> ZenGuy: if all the files are under /home/zenguy, then that is your starting found. Try with "cd /home/zenguy" then "find . -iname "*.mov" -exec ls -al {} \;
[16:24] <ZenGuy> Pici: ok
[16:24] <Combatjuan> Update: It looks like the sun java license check is stored in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[16:25] <ZenGuy> oCean: will it move the files to the folder i'm searching from/one level up?
[16:25] <oCean> ZenGuy: the command in my example will just list files found
[16:25] <ZenGuy> ocean oh ok
[16:26] <oCean> ZenGuy: Pici's command will actually move the files 1 dir up from where you are. You can replace that part of the command by mv {} /home/newdir \;
[16:27] <ZenGuy> ocean ok
[16:28] <mia158> I cannot seem get maximum volume on my USB headphones.
[16:28] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, and you can see your 'dvd' as list of mpeg2 files right? or is it actually dvd structure, vobs and stuff?
[16:29] <erUSUL> Pici: you want execdir for that to work ( if it even works ) afaics; don't you?
[16:30] <Darael> Am I misunderstanding the uptime manpage, or am I right in thinking that a load-average of eleven or more, on a 4-core system, with CPU-usage below 25% as reported by htop ought not to be possible?
[16:30] <ikonia> Darael: certainly possible,
[16:30] <Pici> erUSUL: er, I hadn't tested it myself. I've rarely needed execdir ever though.
[16:30] <ikonia> Darael: don't forget uptime is an average,
[16:30] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex vobs and stuff
[16:31] <Pici> a-saint: handbrake is very useful tool for backing up your DVDs.
[16:32] <usuario3> olaaaaaaaaaa
[16:32] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex Pici I need to import them for known media types like mpegs or something
[16:32] <usuario3> k eces
[16:32] <usuario3> tio
[16:32] <Pici> a-saint: handbrake can create mpegs
[16:32] <erUSUL> !es | usuario3
[16:32] <padhu> anyone suggest me the good Home design software other than sweetHome3D?
[16:32] <a-saint> Pici I see will download the package
[16:32] <usuario3> kieres sali con migo
[16:33] <usuario3> tio
[16:33] <kesor> hey i am getting  "Who has 192.***.1.2?  Tell 192.***.1.7" from another ip thats not mine, does it means they are sniffing me too?
[16:33] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, what is your plan to do with this files?
[16:34] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex import them for later editing or just archive them because i need the mini dvds for other video shots
[16:34] <brontosaurusrex> padhu, the google sketch, if it is on linux allready, its a relatively simple 3d thingy
[16:34] <Pici> kesor: no.
[16:34] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, so just copy them to hd and see if you can open them directly into kdenlive for editing
[16:35] <Pici> kesor: thats what normal traffic on a network with multiple computers looks like.
[16:35] <padhu> brontosaurusrex: I will try it, :-)
[16:35] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, in any case just archive the originals, you can always make specilaized version for editing purposes
[16:35] <Pici> kesor: Better details would probably be appropriate for ##networking
[16:35] <mia158> what can I do to troubleshoot volume on usb headphones?
[16:35] <kesor> Pici, but what is it?
[16:36] <kesor> Pici : thanks
[16:36] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex i was able to see them straight from the dvds so i believe it's possible to do so after a copy
[16:36] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, i think i did mpeg2 shoot -> convert to dv files for editing -> convert to mp4 (avc/aac) for web, then delete dv intermediates, archive original mpeg2s
[16:37] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, mplayer, vlc, ect should be able to play vobs directly
[16:37] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex but should I copy the entire VIDEO_TS dir or just the *.vob thing
[16:38] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, depends on how the dvd is structured, if there is a new vob for everytime you press record, i would just store vobs
[16:39] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, play some vobs directly with some player and see whats the case
[16:39] <lucas_> someone please help me... I want to set an alternative path to /etc/alternatives at bootup
[16:39] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex yes I believe it's a new *.vob every time i start stop recording
[16:39] <tuhl> I sync 2600 contacts into desktop couchdb
[16:39] <ikonia> lucas_: why ?
[16:39] <Kick> Hi guys, I saw a vidio of a guy who had a system monitor on his desktop that looked sharp. Anyone know the app or know of a good sharp app that could be used?
[16:39] <tuhl> evolution gets a timeout
[16:40] <ikonia> Kick: conky is popular
[16:40] <maco> Kick: conky?
[16:40] <tuhl> in 11.04
[16:40] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, thats it then, just make a folder(s), like "my voby vacations 2010" and copy vobs there
[16:40] <Pici> tuhl : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:40] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex let me try and copy a .vob file to home dir and try and play it alone
[16:40] <sacarlson> lucas_: only at boot?  how about a symbolic link  man ln
[16:40] <japtol> has anyone here installed gazelle successfully
[16:40] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, yes, do that
[16:40] <Kick> ikonia, conky? :P I don't see it on the software center :)
[16:40] <ikonia> Kick: it's there
[16:40] <tuhl> Pici: thanks
[16:41] <Kick> ikonia, Ah! I see it
[16:41] <wipmonkey> anyone using 11.04 with a palm pre as a wifi hotspot?
[16:41] <Pici> wipmonkey : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:41] <lucas_> ikonia: creating a live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Thought that in a configured system with nvidia I could just point alternatives to that directory
[16:42] <wipmonkey> Pici: thanks
[16:42] <japtol> has anone here installed gazelle before
[16:43] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex and am downloading kdenlive
[16:43] <html_inprogress> hey
[16:43] <greenmang0> guys i just installed xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu 10.10 ... now i want to completely remove gnome desktop .. which package should i uninstall?
[16:45] <MrGuy> Anyone have any luck getting a G35 headset working?
[16:46] <html_inprogress> whats that?
[16:46] <saulo> I have problems with ubuntu in a netbook: All my keys are detected into xev, but qt does not support my "enable/disable touchpad key". I've tryed install kernel 2.6.38 from Natty (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-natty/)  and this keycode changes, but another keys stop working. My version is 10.10 and I already tryed #debian irc channel, but the kernel and codes sounds...
[16:46] <saulo> ...different there
[16:46] <nyuszika7h> Natty is released?
[16:46] <MrGuy> A logitech 7.1 headset with a microphone on it
[16:46] <oneirosFade> Trying to set up a process (?) that shares the default desktop via VNC - can someone help?
[16:47] <MrGuy> Shows up in the sound settings, but no soundcard symbol next to it unlike the other options
[16:47] <njo_> #ubuntu
[16:47] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex the .vob file plays normal from home folder
[16:47] <saulo> My kernel is 2.6.35-29-generic and my netbook is EEE-PC 1005-HA. Somebody could help me?
[16:48] <saulo> nyuszika7h: Natty isn't released yet, from my best knowledge
[16:48] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, ok, and kdenlive should be in repos
[16:48] <oCean> !isitout | nyuszika7h
[16:49] <a-saint> yes am installing it from the ubuntu software center
[16:50] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex am just wondering what are the other files used for "the bup and the ifo files
[16:51] <zaytsev> does anyone know if there are any "fake" latex (texlive) packages to satisfy dependencies for those using textlive manual installs in /opt?
[16:51] <zaytsev> lyx etc. is pulling the whole texlive thing for me :-/
[16:52] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, those are to do with dvd structure somehow, you dont need them, but it wont hurt to include them, they should be small
[16:52] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, in a case you would want to just burn a dvd as it was, i mean
[16:53] <gnychis_> has anyone gotten pretty printing to work with glib and gdb in Ubuntu?
[16:53] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex hm i see so it's better to copy the entire dir than the *.vob file
[16:54] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex ok thanks a lot
[16:54] <brontosaurusrex> a-saint, like i said, just in case you would want to recreate the dvd as it was shot
[16:55] <a-saint> brontosaurusrex yeah thanks a lot
[16:55] <Ubuntu> Hello can i get a Cd of the new version of Ubuntu sent when it is released
[16:56] <Pici> Ubuntu: Only if you'd like to buy one.
[16:56] <Ubuntu> Ok i'll wait wait and put it on a flash drive
[16:57] <Pici> Canonical are no longer offering free CDs via shipit :/
[16:57] <mknarr> That is because noone was donating $$
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> then they wouldent be free. :)
[16:58]  * Abhijit is one of those who got cds from last lot of shipit!!! :-p
[16:58] <mknarr> u didnt have to pay but they asked for a small donation  but it wasnt manditior
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> cheapbytes.com i recall has  most disrto cd'd for reasonable prices.
[17:00] <a-saint> Dr_Willis i didn't thank you last time for your help in partitioning my external HD so thank you
[17:01] <wipmonkey> some people are too cheap.
[17:01] <rich_> is anyone good with mod_rewrites?
[17:02] <velcroshooz> anyone running WOW under 10.10/wine and experiencing sound loss intermittently, requiring a restart of WOW to get it back?
[17:06] <iceroot> !appdb | velcroshooz
[17:06] <scc> hi
[17:06] <frinsosy> #BettyTooAMS
[17:10] <rich542> hi, if I want to build a custom kernel for ubuntu netbook ed., do I need to make certain targets, or are the standard instructions ok?
[17:12] <Abhijit> !kernel | rich542
[17:13] <dhab> !Mainline
[17:13] <JeffJassky> !Mainline kernel | dhab
[17:13] <rich542> Abhijit, yeah that's what I'm following, how does that help.
[17:14] <rich542> I'm making all targets as per the instructions.
[17:14] <Abhijit> rich542, link for how to complie kernel is given in above message. see it
[17:14] <Name141> !stress
[17:14] <Name141> eh, is there a program like Prime95 ?
[17:15] <iceroot> Name141: cpuburn
[17:15] <Name141> iceroot: that'll let me see how the new machine is gonna do under stress ?
[17:16] <iceroot> Name141: correct
[17:16] <Rowin> hello
[17:16] <Name141> iceroot: is it via live? or do I need a repo to download it first
[17:16] <iceroot> Name141: repo
[17:17] <iceroot> Name141: also there is prime95 for ubuntu (check the website of prime)
[17:17] <Name141> iceroot: I'm running it off of a flash drive right now and haven't installed the hard drive/dvd burner
[17:17] <iceroot> Name141: sudo apt-get install cpuburn
[17:18] <iceroot> Name141: and why you need a hardisk or a burner?just install it from the repos
[17:18] <Name141> iceroot: which repo does it come off of so I can enable it
[17:18] <iceroot> !info cpuburn
[17:18] <mfilipe> no update today :S
[17:18] <mfilipe> anyone knows any sensors applet to unity?
[17:18] <iceroot> Name141: the universe repo
[17:19] <mimmostella> Ciao a tutti!!!
[17:19] <Name141> iceroot: alrighty.  I'm doing sudo apt-get update now
[17:19] <mimmostella> !list
[17:19] <iceroot> what? cpuburn is available for hurd-i386 ubuntu?
[17:20] <kury> How do I make device-mapper load the drivers/created the udev nodes for my PCI SSD drive before fstab tries to mount that partition and fail?
[17:24] <Name141> iceroot: after trying to sudo apt-get update, it ran out of free space
[17:25] <kury> How do I make device mapper start before fstab is read and my drives are all mounted?
[17:26] <chegibari>  Hello. This is a linux-windows question: what's the easiest way to run a bash/wget script on windows? I'm in a internet cafe and can't install much stuff
[17:26] <kury> do I need to include it in the /boot/ files somewhere?
[17:26] <chegibari> I need that to run a wget script from the ubuntu package manager
[17:26] <kury> chegibari: search for cygwin ?
[17:26] <erUSUL> chegibari: cygwin?
[17:27] <kury> or run a VM but.. I doubt you could get the VM environment installed...
[17:27] <chegibari> the last time I used it was very big and messy to install
[17:27] <chegibari> I'll try that again
[17:28] <chegibari> I hope the owner won't kill me
[17:28] <chegibari> It's installinng
[17:28] <erUSUL> chegibari: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/
[17:29] <cdavis> Is there a way I can have dhcp tell me all of the options and view them? specifically I want to see if it advertises option 252
[17:29] <chegibari> erUSUL: too late. :) I started the cygwin installer
[17:29] <chegibari> I hope it doesn't need a reboot
[17:30] <chegibari> otherwise it's a waste of time
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> i wonder how updated cygwin is now a days.. last i tried it - it was rather.. old.
[17:31] <erUSUL> chegibari: is all this to run a apt/synaptic download script?
[17:31] <landingonwater> so.. My Win7 decided to stop working. Can I reinstall win seven, and then restore the Grub bootloader afterwards ?
[17:32] <mman> landingonwater, yes
[17:32] <landingonwater> mman: how do I do It ?
[17:32] <erUSUL> chegibari: maybe it easier to find a http dwonloader that can get urls from a text file? last time i looked the script was nothing more than wget url1 ... wget urln lines if you remove the wget you get a nice file you can find to a http dwonloader
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | landingonwater
[17:32] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:32] <tensorpudding> landingonwater: are you sure you need to reinstall windows 7
[17:32] <tensorpudding> it'd be helpful to be able to fix it without having to reinstall
[17:32] <mman> landingonwater, you can do this http://www.rocko.me/?p=141
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> landingonwater:  if you got a spare flash drive. You can install grub to it befor you reinstall windows. thenb boot from that 'rescue' flash drive. :) then rerun update-grub and restore grub
[17:33] <landingonwater> Dr_Willis: aah.. great. thanks :)
[17:33] <tensorpudding> landingonwater: if you reinstall windows 7 though, you can just pop in your ubuntu cd/dvd and boot into the live environment and restore grub from there
[17:33] <chegibari> erUSUL: yes
[17:34] <chegibari> erUSUL: I don't have internet at home
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> a tricked i learned 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and you can tell it to install grub to  the flash drive. Or every HD ya got. :) then just pick one to boot.
[17:34] <mman> landingonwater, what tensorpudding said is exactly what I sent you in that link :P
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> or theres other ways to install grub to the flash
[17:34] <researcher123> can someone help with this image please http://img27.imageshack.us/i/virtualbox1.png/
[17:34] <researcher123> I cant run virtualbox
[17:35] <landingonwater> tensorpudding: well.. Win7 doesnt boot. not even in failsafe. some damage files. and It cant restore to previous working setup. brand new win7 ultimate. haha.. i only use win7 for Lightroom. Still doesnt work well in Wine. Apart from that.. Win7 can fade into history for all I care.
[17:35] <chegibari> it's working!
[17:35] <chegibari> :-)
[17:35] <chegibari> incredible
[17:35] <chegibari> thanks guys
[17:35] <earthmeLon> I have 'paired' my android phone via bluetooth with my laptop.  How can I transfer files to the phone now?
[17:36] <tensorpudding> landingonwater: i guess that's fair
[17:37] <atlef> researcher123, so why don't you do what is says? "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-dkms" and then "sudo modprobe vboxdrv"
[17:37] <przemoReX> hi, can anybody help me to set up simplest working mail server for testing php scripts?
[17:37] <gp5st> where would i find the uuid/uuid.h header? which package i mean
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> !find uuid.h
[17:37] <researcher123> atlef: I did but no use
[17:38] <gp5st> Dr_Willis: i didn't know you could do that, thansk
[17:38] <charlie_> hello guys, why is the suspend/resume not working in ubuntu 10.10 or is it just me?
[17:38] <atlef> researcher123, hm, ok
[17:38] <padhu> przemoReX: squirrel mail
[17:38] <WaltherFI> charlie_: do you have swap area?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> gp5st:  i think thers a program called apt-file that you can run locally :)
[17:41] <charlie_> hello guys, why is the suspend/resume not working in ubuntu 10.10 or is it just me?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> charlie_:  whats your ram size.. and whats your swap size?
[17:41] <gp5st> Dr_Willis: thanks:) i'll look into that
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-file
[17:41] <charlie_> ram size is 2gb swap size? no idea
[17:41] <przemoReX> padhu: actually I need to configure MTA, so my machine will send mail to remote boxes
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> charlie_:  swap needs to be at least 2 gb. if not a little more.
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> 2.5 gb to be safe. :)
[17:42] <charlie_> so how do I do that?
[17:42] <charlie_> im sorry, Im a noob
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> check swap size. resize it if needed
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> 'freen' command shows swap space.
[17:42] <pylix> my swap is only 600mb
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> free ;)
[17:43] <abstrakt> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openjdk-6/openjdk-6-jre-lib_6b20-1.9.1-1ubuntu3_all.deb  404  Not Found
[17:43] <abstrakt> wtf>
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> gparted can also show partion sized
[17:43] <abstrakt> and sun-java6-jre isn't available
[17:43] <abstrakt> this is a rackspace Ubuntu 10.10 machine
[17:43] <abstrakt> VPS, i have root
[17:43] <padhu> Dr_Willis: free -m
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> servers may be getting maintined
[17:43] <pylix> swap is like pagefile for win32. virtual memory really isn't that helpful
[17:43] <pylix> imo
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> It is if you want hibernate/suspend working. :)
[17:44] <charlie_> SWAP: TOTAL: 3227644 USED: 136 FREE:3227508
[17:44] <pylix> see all that free?
[17:45] <pylix> proves my point
[17:45] <tjiggi_fo> all that's running is his chat client - of course its all free
[17:45] <abstrakt> ahh, nm, apt-get update was needed
[17:45] <a-saint> Dr_Willis i didn't thank you last time for your help in partitioning my external HD so thank you
[17:45] <MK``> if I use virtualbox will it allow me to run a second session of my own OS in it?
[17:46] <erUSUL> MK``: no
[17:46] <MK``> ok
[17:46] <charlie_> problem is when I suspend the system will go on a "standby mode" and when I resume, all I get is a black screen
[17:46] <MK``> If i am using another terminal, is it wise to login to the same user on more than on terminal? Or may that confuse the system in some areas?
[17:46] <MK``> than one*
[17:47] <Pici> MK``: Its fine.
[17:48] <kv102t> when i use flash on like BBC player, i can't view in fullscreen. Any ideas?
[17:48] <shoresh> hi I have a problem to upgrade my ubuntu please help!
[17:49] <NerwenGreen> I've managed to install apache2 plus the php5 module I needed. How do I find where localhost is located so I can make a pointer to the directory that I want to put my actual files in?
[17:49] <xangua> kv102t: flash sucks in linux in general
[17:50] <xangua> shoresh: the problem in this side is that we can't read your mind to actually know what your problem is
[17:50] <kv102t> xangua: im sure it was better with ubuntu 10.4
[17:50] <WaltherFI> kv102t: install newest from their site
[17:50] <ImperialXT> shoresh:  more info is usually needed to help
[17:51] <diogo> hi
[17:51] <ImperialXT> NerwenGreen: I think default is /var/www/
[17:51] <ImperialXT> but check your apache
[17:51] <kv102t> what flash is best (ubuntu 10.10)
[17:51] <ImperialXT> config to be sure
[17:51] <diogo> it is possible to compile the last kernel in ubuntu without breaking things like apparmor
[17:51] <diogo> ?
[17:52] <shoresh> oooh how we can chat directly its my first time too chat in ubuntu. then i will tell you what is my problem clearly
[17:52] <ImperialXT> shoresh:  just state it in here
[17:52] <shoresh> ok
[17:52] <MK``> say it here so we can all help and learn :)
[17:52] <charlie_> my computer sucks, It can't run any compiz or desktop effects like wobbly windows
[17:53] <erUSUL> diogo: apparmor is included now in mainline kernel if that's what you ask
[17:53] <ImperialXT> yeah more like that way others can help and I can go to bed :P
[17:53] <shoresh> i have installed ubuntu 8.04 and want to upgrade to 10.10
[17:53] <xangua> shoresh: you can upgrade to 10.04
[17:53] <charlie_> shoresh just wait for 11.04
[17:53] <jrib> kv102t: adobe's
[17:53] <erUSUL> shoresh: upgrade to 10.04 ( you can because both are LTS ) and then upgrade to 10.10
[17:54] <diogo> how can i build the latest kernel in ubuntu?
[17:54] <erUSUL> shoresh: but if it is a clean install why not install 10.10 directly ?
[17:54] <jrib> !kernel | diogo
[17:54] <Soyo> So I upgraded to ubuntu 10.10 but it failed and said gnome power manager not installed correctly. I was able to get a root command line prompt by using my oldest kernel. I keep getting read-only file system errors when I try to do anything even as root
[17:54] <NerwenGreen> ImperialXT: ah, /var/www was it. :)
[17:54] <shoresh> but when i upgrade it say to me that cannot petch sexy phyton
[17:54] <shoresh> i dont know what is it
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Soyo:  read only - is often a sign that the fs needs fscked. or hard drive is having issues. If the kernel detexts an error. it puts / into read only mode.
[17:55] <NerwenGreen> Next problem: it doesn't recognize php. I've installed libapache2-mod-php5 ... was there something else I need to do?
[17:55] <jrib> !lamp > NerwenGreen
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Soyo:  I would boot a live cd. and try to fsck the fs's and monitor dmesg output when it goes read only
[17:55] <shoresh> erusul i have the 10.10 cd
[17:55] <jrib> NerwenGreen: follow the troubleshooting steps on the page ubottu just sent you
[17:55] <NerwenGreen> jrib thanks
[17:56] <Soyo> Dr_Willis: Thank you, but I don't have a cd drive that works. I'll try a USB drive. Is there a way to fsck from command line?
[17:56] <shoresh> ersul: but dont know how to install it in free space on my disck
[17:56] <erUSUL> shoresh: so why not do a freshh install of 10.10 ? why did you installed 8.04 in the first place
[17:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> Hey, booted off of a Live CD currently, any quick and easy way to get Ubuntu to recognize my wireless NIC? Puppy supports it right off the bat, so I know it's linux compatible.
[17:57] <charlie_> after installing my video driver, there's a 2 persistent black lines on my desktop, do you guys the know a fix for this?
[17:57] <shoresh> i dont know how to install it on free space in my disck
[17:57] <diogo> ok , thanks
[17:58] <charlie_> sure is quiet in here ^^
[17:59] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: what chipset is it, do you know?
[17:59] <erUSUL> shoresh: the same way you installed 8.04 ?
[17:59] <Soyo> sudo shutdown -F.. (for filesystem check?)
[18:00] <Soyo> I guess I don't need sudo from #
[18:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> lspci reports it as "broadcom corporation BCM4318 [Airforce one 54g] 802.11g wireless lan controller rev 2"
[18:01] <przemoReX> hi, can anybody help me to set up simplest working mail server for testing php scripts?
[18:01] <tensorpudding> hmm
[18:01] <tensorpudding> 4318?
[18:01] <tensorpudding> that sounds like what i have
[18:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: thats what it says lol
[18:01] <tensorpudding> oh, that driver doesn't cover 4318
[18:01] <tensorpudding> hmm
[18:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> and I had a wubi install once a while back and I remember my wifi working then
[18:01] <abountu> hi, I just bought a Laptop with Intel I3 380M, which is a 64bit cpu, I went to the ubuntu website to download the latest version of ubuntu 10/10 and to install it, and I saw the website gave me 2 options 32(recommended) and 64, I was wondering why is the 32 recommended rather than 32, I would have thought I rather use the 64bit version to take advantage of the 64bit cpu architecture, anyone has any idea? thanks
[18:02] <tensorpudding> this is older
[18:02] <tensorpudding> the b43 driver covers it
[18:02] <g0rby> Hello => I recently restored my system after xp overwrote my bootloader - grub2 now launches ubuntu fine and grub-mkconfig generated a new file that i replaced. However now when the system boots my monitor displays signal out of range until i hit enter and it boots the first entry. How do i go about changeing the res or whatever so i can see the menu again?
[18:02] <charlie_> what version of Ubuntu will be the next LTS?
[18:03] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: which version of ubuntu?
[18:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: 10.10
[18:03] <xangua> charlie_: 10.04, add 2 years
[18:03] <charlie_> 12.04
[18:03] <erUSUL> !dulaboot | shoresh
[18:03] <charlie_> thank you
[18:03] <erUSUL> !dualboot | shoresh
[18:04] <ImperialXT> hmm I thougnt LTS was always .04 ?
[18:04] <tensorpudding> for copyright reasons the firmware needed for the driver isn't included
[18:04] <tensorpudding> did you try looking at the Additional Drivers configuration?
[18:04] <g0rby> Where can i change the resolution that grub2 uses to display its boot menu?
[18:04] <g0rby> I cant see the list
[18:05] <numberto> First time using gwibber and get this while trying to add twitter account (same error on 10.10 and 11.04) - "Peer failed to perform TLS handshake"
[18:06] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: if it doesn't show up in that, you're going to have to either wait for 11.04, or follow some steps in a tutorial to build the driver
[18:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: only finds something for my ATI gfx card. I'm pretty sure if I had installed it and lugged my computer to an ethernet cable and told ubuntu to update, it would fetch a driver for it. it seems like thats what it did before
[18:06] <charlie_> has anyone tried the Ubuntu 11.04 beta? Is it possible to switch from Unity to Gnome in Ubuntu 11?
[18:06] <erUSUL> ImperialXT: all LTS are .04 ( except 6.06 that slipped two months ) but not all .04 are LTS
[18:06] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: oh, you're not online right now?
[18:06] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: the driver won't appear until it connects for updates
[18:07] <g0rby> Is there some autoconfig for grub2 that i can run so it will redetect what res to use so i can see my boot menu list?
[18:07] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: if you had an ethernet cable you could get it right off
[18:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: No, i'm on my laptop running puppy linux xD
[18:07] <brewster> i can't access my trash, the computer location or any removeable media. How do i fix this?
[18:08] <g0rby> dpkg--reconfigure grub / grub2 says its not installed =/'
[18:08] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: i guess one way to do it, is to download the packages required to a flash drive and install them
[18:08] <erUSUL> charlie_: there is a gnome3 ppa ask further questions in #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <ImperialXT> kk ty erUSUL guess I'll read more up on that in the morning
[18:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: that would work. Where do I go for that?
[18:09] <ImperialXT> night
[18:09] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: the required package is b43-fwcutter
[18:09] <uRock> Has anyone ever seen  wireless drivers show in System> Admin> Additional Drivers?
[18:09] <popey> uRock: yes, on my mac laptop
[18:09] <ImperialXT> uRock:  yes
[18:09] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: but, it might be nicer to wait for three more days
[18:10] <uRock> thanks, I had noticed that advice given, but had never actually seen it in action
[18:10] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: it's probably not worth installing 10.10 now, because 11.04 is going to release
[18:10] <g0rby> im worried that if i reconfigure grub-pc or grub-common it will mess up current grub config even more
[18:11] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: not that you have to wait three days to use 11.04, that's just when it releases
[18:11] <MK``> !metacity
[18:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: honestly, not wanting to install ubuntu. I'm just wanting to use the live cd for the time being. I'm wanting to get slackware installed but loading the kernel off of their boot disk hangs
[18:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: My goal is to get a dual boot of windows7 and slackware. slack would be my primary, and windows7 would be there for games that don't run under linux, even with wine
[18:13] <g0rby> Could some one try to help with my grub problem?
[18:13] <Dominater> my pc just froze, how do i find what cause the problem?
[18:13] <tensorpudding> Spaz_Dynamic: if you don't want ubuntu, maybe you ought to be checking on the slackware channel to figure out why your boot disk doesn't work...
[18:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> g0rby: Go to the store and get some pesticides?
[18:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> =P
[18:13] <g0rby> => =/
[18:13] <brewster> rofl
[18:14] <escott> g0rby, sorry i missed what your problem was
[18:14] <cyoz> how can I cd into a folder that has spaces in the name?
[18:14] <Dominater> my pc just froze, how do i find what cause the problem when i restart the computer?
[18:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> tensorpudding: Yeah, I have been. they're not sure currently. I'm getting the impression that my DVD is garbage
[18:14] <escott> cyoz, cd "foo bar" or cd foo\  bar
[18:14] <escott> cyoz, or cd foo[TAB]
[18:15] <Dominater> someone?
[18:15] <tic^> !grub | g0rby
[18:15] <tic^> back
[18:15] <g0rby> think i bricked it even more now =/
[18:15] <cyoz> escott, thanks the tab function is handy
[18:15] <cyoz> he completed to: cd The\ Strain\ Book1/
[18:15] <Dominater> my pc just froze, how do i find what cause the problem when i restart the computer?
[18:15] <g0rby> Is there some autoconfig for grub2 that i can run so it will redetect what res to use so i can see my boot menu list?
[18:15] <minimec> Dominater: If you can access the frozen computer via network and ssh, try that and read /var/log/syslog
[18:15] <g0rby> Hello => I recently restored my system after xp overwrote my bootloader - grub2 now launches ubuntu fine and grub-mkconfig generated a new file that i replaced. However now when the system boots my monitor displays signal out of range until i hit enter and it boots the first entry. How do i go about changeing the res or whatever so i can see the menu again?
[18:15] <g0rby> there ^^
[18:15] <minimec> Dominater: Maybe also other logs.
[18:16] <arand> g0rby: Do you have any specific option for your grub?
[18:16] <Dominater> thanks i try that
[18:16] <brewster> can anyone help me with my problem?
[18:16] <g0rby> Well, since typeing that i have bricked it even more by running reconfigure grub-pc
[18:16] <spyder49>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[18:16] <arand> g0rby: And have you run update-grub from your ubuntu install since reinstalling it?
[18:16] <brewster> i can't access my trash, the computer location or any removeable media.
[18:16] <g0rby> so, booting from live again
[18:17] <xangua> !info startupmanager | g0rby
[18:17] <minimec> Dominater: Otherwise restart the computer and tryto find the errors in the mentioned logfiles. Problem is, that your present boot is also log. You will have to search a bit. Look at the timestamps.
[18:17] <g0rby> arand: yeah i had and it left me with a working menu but the scrteen res was out of range
[18:17] <g0rby> arand: i know the menu was there however as the system only continued to boot after pressing enter
[18:17] <minimec> Dominater: ..and don't repet your question just after 10' ;)
[18:18] <arand> g0rby: When you use reconfigure you will need to specify the correct drive to install mbr to, from the liveCD I guess you just reinstall it as you did before.
[18:18] <arand> g0rby: Do you use a dual-boot?
[18:18] <abountu> I just bought a Laptop with Intel I3 380M, which is a 64bit cpu, I went to the ubuntu website to download the latest version of ubuntu 10/10 and to install it, and I saw the website gave me 2 options 32(recommended) and 64, I was wondering why is the 32 recommended rather than 32, I would have thought I rather use the 64bit version to take advantage of the 64bit cpu architecture, anyone has any idea?
[18:18] <Dominater> minimec , should i login to recovery mode?
[18:18] <g0rby> arand: yes
[18:18] <xangua> abountu: use what you want
[18:19] <Souperman> how do i know what kernel im currently using?
[18:19] <g0rby> arand: installed ununtu - xp - booted from live - got ubuntu back but no menu
[18:19] <minimec> Dominater: hmm... It wil also log your boot, I guess....
[18:19] <leapy0yo> hi
[18:19] <abountu> xangua, ok I know, but is there any pros and cons for one or the other?
[18:19] <xangua> Souperman: uname -r
[18:19] <Souperman> kk thanks xangua
[18:20] <leapy0yo> how can I have a setup so that all messages and warning are into one /var/log file  ? myabe verything that happens on or maybe just warnings, how do i do that?
[18:20] <MK``> Are Mutter and Compiz ICCCM / EWMH compliant?
[18:20] <erUSUL> probably
[18:21] <brewster> my problem has something to do with nautilus. can anyone help?
[18:21] <KM0201> brewster, just ask your question
[18:21] <leapy0yo> anyone know how  I can make ubuntu put a /var/log of all system doings?
[18:21] <brewster> i can't access my trash, the computer location or any removeable media.
[18:21] <chegibari> thanks again bye!
[18:22] <KM0201> brewster, what happens when you try to access them?
[18:22] <brewster> nautilus cannot handle <fill in location> locations
[18:22] <arand> g0rby: Would you be able to pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[18:23] <KM0201> brewster, try this.. open a terminal and type "nautilus /home/(yourusername)" (no quotes).. and see if nautilus opens your home folder
[18:23] <g0rby> arand: its bricked atm so makeing a new boot usb ^^
[18:23] <brewster> it does
[18:24] <KM0201> brewster, ok... right click a folder inside home... and choose properties, then click the "Open With" tab.. .and make sure "Nautilus" is checked.
[18:24] <g0rby> got back from a holiday and didnt really remeber what state it was in
[18:24] <przemoReX> I'm trying to set up postfix to send mails from php script, but anytime I run the script it sends nothing only I gat "postfix/postdrop[6811]: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory"
[18:26] <KM0201> brewster, did that fix the problem?
[18:27] <brewster> im not sure
[18:27] <brewster> it works for now but the problem usually comes back when i restart
[18:28] <brewster> thank you for your help
[18:28] <brewster> ill be back if it didn't work after i reboot
[18:28] <leapy0yo> any of you uiinstall lsb or linux standard base? i wam wondering if it is good to just install it
[18:29] <g0rby> arand: ty for help tho => will boot from live mount the drive and re-do grub-install and that will prob get me back to same place
[18:29] <lioop> sup guys
[18:30] <Fissscher> Guys have a question i just found an old game [ Herose 3] and want to instal it on ubuntu anybody knows how?
[18:30] <lioop> Where is the mandvd directory located?
[18:30] <lioop> Where are the "program files"
[18:30] <erUSUL> Fissscher: a windows game?
[18:30] <erUSUL> !wine > Fissscher
[18:30] <SnowmanX11> Fissscher: go to winehq for finding the answer
[18:31] <brewster> KM0201: the problem is back
[18:31] <SnowmanX11> Fissscher: I gues you have a windows install cd, isn't it?
[18:31] <brewster> now it won't mount my removable media and my trashcan is missing
[18:31] <Fissscher> yes it is windows cd
[18:31] <KM0201> brewster, what was under the "Open With" tab..
[18:32] <brewster> i dont see it anymore
[18:33] <lioop> where are the "program files" in ubuntu
[18:33] <lioop> is it in the bin?
[18:33] <erUSUL> !fhs | lioop
[18:33] <lioop> huh
[18:34] <SnowmanX11> lioop: nope. In your home directory. Most of them are hidden.
[18:34] <SnowmanX11> lioop: Use nautilus, push CTRL+H and you will see the program folders
[18:34] <erUSUL> lioop: program files are scattered in different places. /usr/bin/ /usr/lib/ /usr/share/ etc ....
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> there is no 'program files' directory lioop  - linux dosent work that way. :) see what erUSUL  said.
[18:35] <SnowmanX11> lioop: everything depends on what you are looking for
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> lioop:  what are you trying to do exactly
[18:35] <erUSUL> !xy
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> X-Y=Z
[18:36] <SnowmanX11> ubottu is overtrained a little bit...
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> Guess she showd you. :)
[18:37] <SnowmanX11> Hehhe! I know that you don't
[18:37] <lioop> Dr_Willis: I am trying to locate the mandvd directory
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> lioop:  try 'locate mandvd'
[18:37] <SnowmanX11> lioop: for what purpose?
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> lioop:  or 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate mandvd'
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> !info mandvd
[18:37] <g0rby> isnt there a dpkg switch that shows you a pacakges installed files location? that he could use
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> Or theresd tools to show what files came from what packages. i always forget what it is.
[18:38] <erUSUL> lioop: g0rby --> dpkg -L packagename
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> synaptic can do it - in the details/properties of the  program
[18:38] <lioop> Dr_Willis: when I start mandvd it says "please remove lockfile.run in mandvd/ directory
[18:38] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: dpkg -S fullpathtofile
[18:38] <erUSUL> !info apt-file
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> lioop:  that would proberly be a file in th eusers home directory. look in .mandvd  perhaps.
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> lioop:  programs use lockfiles so they dont get ran more then once at a time. if they crash. the lock can get stuck.
[18:39] <salvatore> ciao
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> definatly a XY question. :)
[18:39] <salvatore> chi mi pu├▓ aiutare con un dilink dns 323
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> perhaps in .config/mandvd also. its hard to tell where progams put their config files these days
[18:40] <maco> salvatore: portuges?
[18:40] <erUSUL> lioop: look in /var/run/ too
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[18:40] <g0rby> arand: ok back to same situation - system boots grub.cfg looks good but res is out of range so dont see anything
[18:40] <erUSUL> maco: italian
[18:40] <erUSUL> !it | salvatore
[18:40] <maco> erUSUL: italian has accent marks?
[18:41] <erUSUL> maco: all roman languages have them afaik ;P
[18:41] <erUSUL> maco: roman as in derived from latin
[18:41] <lioop> I cant find it
[18:41] <lioop> can I just search for lockfile in the gnome?
[18:41] <njo> hi I am trying to use ubuntu as a thin client to RDC into a windows terminal server. I have created a script and made it executable. it runs on start up automatically and the user does not know the differece. the only problem i am having is at the end of the session. I want to make it so that when they log off, the machine shuts down. so far I have had no luck with the halt command.
[18:41] <njo> this is my script: !/bin/bash tsclient -x /home/nestor/.tsclient/rdesktop.rdp sudo /sbin/halt
[18:42] <njo> can anyone give me a hand? i am pretty new to linux
[18:42] <mujahid> how can i run php mysql on linux?
[18:42] <erUSUL> lioop: looked in /var/run/ ?
[18:42] <lioop> no lockfile
[18:42] <lioop> yes
[18:43] <mujahid> Hi all...Can any one please tell me how can I run PHP MYADMIN on Ubunut?
[18:43] <erUSUL> !lamp | mujahid
[18:43] <escott> njo, tsclient will need X server. if you don't want the user to see the gnome desktop (and have only the tsclient) I would suggest creating a custom xsession, im sure there is a way to make X halt the machine when x closes
[18:44] <grandz> hi, after i used ctrl+alt+f4 touchpad on my laptop stopped work, i tried lots of solution and nothing helps, anybody have idea how to make it run again?
[18:44] <njo> thanks escott, i will give that a shot
[18:44] <njo> I thought it might be a permissions issue using the sudo command
[18:45] <mujahid> ubottu.....thx but I have to work on JSP.....would it be helpful in that case?
[18:46] <escott> njo, you would need to use sudo to halt but for a solution like this a custom x session may be more what you want
[18:46] <escott> also the normal user will not be able to use sudo
[18:46] <njo> ok, sounds good i will try that instead
[18:46] <erUSUL> mujahid: phpmyadmin runs on php; so you need it to run
[18:46] <grandz> can anybody help me with touchpad ?
[18:46] <sec_goat> The command line is intimidating me, how can I navigate to a network location and copy those files toa  local directory?
[18:46] <erUSUL> mujahid: if you do not want to install php use another mysql admin tool
[18:46] <Diverdude> is scp faster than sftp?
[18:46] <kesor> when 11.04 comes out do i cant not use 10.10 anymORE?
[18:46] <mujahid> oh dear i have to use database only.....
[18:47] <erUSUL> sec_goat: how did you mounted the network location ?
[18:47] <mujahid> I have installed mysql admin tool....also
[18:47] <moth> hi can i get some help about how to restore X?
[18:47] <spyder50> XEC cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[18:47] <escott> njo, look at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/app-setup.html
[18:48] <grandz> can anybody help me with touchpad ?
[18:48] <Diverdude> When i copy with scp in terminal it has speed 10 MB/s when i do sftp in nautilus it is 1 MB/s. why?
[18:48] <sec_goat> erUSUL: I have not mounted it? it's a Samba share for my windows machines. I am still a bit new to all of this
[18:48] <maco> Diverdude: id try that sftp in terminal too for a better comparison. id guess nautilus has some overhead
[18:49] <sagaci> grandz, doesn't look like it so be try a bit later
[18:49] <Diverdude> maco, lol it has 10xoverhead in transfer speed just to show some gui crap?
[18:49] <moth> i cannot start my computer. X system is not working. could anyone help me with that?
[18:49] <erUSUL> sec_goat: you used the gui to navigate to it? thne in command line you have to go to   ~/.gvfs/ doing ┬½ cd ~/.gvfs/ ┬╗ in the terminal
[18:49] <erUSUL> !cli | sec_goat
[18:49] <maco> Diverdude: when you create a remote filesystem through nautilus....its actually mounting a remote filesystem, not just adding "some gui crap"
[18:49] <maco> Diverdude: there's an extra layer of indirection in your ~/.gnomevfs
[18:49] <mujahid> E: dkimproxy: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[18:49] <mujahid> E: dtc-toaster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:49] <yonps> need help for installing wifi driver
[18:50] <sec_goat> erUSUL: I wish I could use the GUI, but can't seem to get the vncviewer to connect when outside the building. . . I found the CP command to copy on CLI but i do not knwo how to find where the darn files are
[18:50] <maco> Diverdude: so yeah, i wouldnt be surprised if it created a LOT of overhead.  copying files locally is slower through nautilus or dolphin than through the command line, IME
[18:50] <mujahid> I am getting this error while installing new package..with sypantic
[18:50] <g0rby> arand: still here?
[18:50] <mujahid>  E: dkimproxy: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 E: dtc-toaster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:50] <arand> g0rby: Yes, could you pastebin your grub.cfg please?
[18:51] <g0rby> arand: thats kinda hard, the system ius booting a kernel that has the wrong wifi driver =/
[18:51] <erUSUL> sec_goat: well to be able to access the files you have to first mount the windows share....
[18:51] <sagaci> No ethernet available?
[18:51] <g0rby> arand: there is an ok one on there, but its not default
[18:51] <Diverdude> maco, hmmm okay that really is is quite bad for linux i guess if it has to compete with windows gui copy which does not have such overhead
[18:52] <maco> Diverdude: does windows have a non-gui copy?
[18:52] <vesa_> can some one help me...  why my swap isnt working on lubuntu
[18:52] <Diverdude> maco, yeah it has xcopy
[18:52] <mujahid> E: dkimproxy: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[18:52] <mujahid> E: dtc-toaster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:52] <g0rby> arand: im not really familair with grub.cfg ; how can i make it boot a particular entry by default?
[18:52] <vesa_> /dev/sda6: LABEL="swap" UUID="7244dc55-85a7-4d89-933d-67dcba8892f4" TYPE="swap"
[18:52] <erUSUL> Diverdude: but you can not use xcopy to copy to a ssh server
[18:52] <vesa_> its there
[18:52] <vesa_> it should work
[18:52] <vesa_> but it doesnt :/
[18:52] <joeix> I've found that the sound output to my speakers is very quiet and I need to turn the volume all the way up in order to get it to a reasonable level for listening.  However when I use windows the sound is much louder even when I have the volume turned quite low.
[18:53] <spyder50> XEC cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[18:53] <DexterF> hey
[18:53] <joeix> How can I increase the volume?
[18:53] <Diverdude> erUSUL, true...i guess windows dont use ssh servers...they rely on vpn tunnels?
[18:53] <sagaci> vesa_, check your fstab
[18:53] <Syria> Hello, I bought a usb wireless adapter which is supposed to be supported by linux, how can i know if it is detected ? nothing changed at all!
[18:53] <vesa_> sagaci, its correct :/
[18:54] <DexterF> the screensave doesnt save the screen. have a 10.04 on a plasma, after a minute of OpenGL screensaver (or even after a few secs) I get a password dialog
[18:54] <erUSUL> Diverdude: well for file shring it uses SMB/CIFS ( samba ) not encrypted.
[18:54] <DexterF> if I had left and did not watch this, this rectangle would burn into the plasma
[18:55] <Diverdude> erUSUL, yes ok...but if that is run over VPN it is automatically encryoted no?
[18:55] <vesa_> if some guru could d
[18:55] <sagaci> Syria, what card is it and are you running 10.10?
[18:55] <vesa_> te
[18:55] <vesa_> tell me
[18:55] <vesa_> how linux defines the swap
[18:56] <OerHeks> Syria,  terminal: lsusb
[18:56] <vesa_> maybe i will find the answer
[18:56] <orc> where is located the failsafe x config
[18:56] <erUSUL> Diverdude: i guess so
[18:56] <erUSUL> vesa_: what do you mean by define?
[18:56] <Syria> sagaci Edimax wireless usb adapter.
[18:57] <Syria> OerHeks, it seems to be detected buut why i can't connect to wireless netowrks around? Bus 002 Device 003: ID 7392:7612 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
[18:57] <g0rby> arand: copied it from usb instead : http://pastebin.com/YrDCeLZD
[18:57] <ron__> hi4
[18:58] <erUSUL> vesa_: which is the swap partition is and how to activate it is defined in /etc/fstab if you are asking that
[18:58] <g0rby> the menu looks good, i just cant see it at boot as screen blacks
[18:58] <OerHeks> Syria, i found your firmware, see this topic > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10511786
[18:59] <grandz> can anybody help me with touchpad ?
[18:59] <OerHeks> Syria, if this works for you too, please leave a comment on the forum.
[19:00] <sagaci> grandz, what's wrong with it
[19:00] <Souperman> should i upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10?
[19:00] <Syria> OerHeks I have to reboot now and I hope that it works, I have bookmarked this page and I will leave a comment. :)
[19:00] <walmik> hello
[19:00] <sagaci> depends
[19:00] <OerHeks> Syria, go ahead.
[19:01] <vesa_> erUSUL, well i have this in my fstab: UUID=67ba5488-8cad-4278-b50c-e9f1c0e06be8 none            swap    sw              0       0
[19:01] <pylix> Souperman: I think so
[19:01] <walmik> is there some way to switch the default unity to GNOME in nebook remix?
[19:01] <grandz> hi, after i used ctrl+alt+f4 touchpad on my laptop stopped work, i tried lots of solution and nothing helps, anybody have idea how to make it run again?
[19:01] <sagaci> !hi
[19:01] <erUSUL> vesa_: yes; what is the problem with it?
[19:01] <oCean> Souperman: no real *need* to upgrade. 10.04 is an LTS relase, meaning it has 3 year of support
[19:01] <Somelauw> Stupid question, but can you launch gnome, awesome or kde from tty?
[19:01] <vesa_> well i dont have any swap :/
[19:01] <Syria> bye for now.
[19:01] <jbarbero> Hi, sorry, this is probably a really obvious question, but I've just switched from Debian (using wicd) to the latest Ubuntu. I'm being driven mad by the constant notifications of wireless disconnect/connect even though I'm plugged into a wired interface and it's working. In wicd I could set wireless to be disabled when the wired interface was available. Is there any way to do that in NetworkManager?
[19:01] <vesa_> erUSUL, i dont have any swap
[19:02] <walmik> or is there some way to get rid of the left sidebar on ubuntu netbook remix?
[19:02] <erUSUL> vesa_: what does "swapon -s" says ?
[19:02] <sagaci> No idea, what model of laptop?
[19:02] <escott> DexterF, is the password dialog box counting down? my crazy theory is that you have your screen configured to sleep after X minutes and the plasma is not sleeping, but when the display goes to sleep screensaver draws the password dialog because it *knows* that the next time the screen will show the password dialog will be needed
[19:02] <Souperman> well no upgrade then, things are working fine
[19:02] <oCean> Souperman: same here :)
[19:02] <vesa_> erUSUL, empty
[19:02] <erUSUL> vesa_: sudo swpaon -a
[19:02] <nit-wit> jbarbero, look at the edit functions in NM
[19:02] <erUSUL> vesa_: sudo swapon -a
[19:02] <escott> Somelauw, yes with startx
[19:03] <sveinse> What is consolekit and what is its relationship to DBus?
[19:03] <jbarbero> nit-wit: ok, looking
[19:03] <grandz> acer 5920, it used to worked fine, since today
[19:03] <vesa_> erUSUL, swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=67ba5488-8cad-4278-b50c-e9f1c0e06be8
[19:03] <Kick> Does anyone know how I can remove the wine menu under applications?
[19:04] <sagaci> Souperman, only upgrade if you want newer versions ofsoftware
[19:04] <erUSUL> vesa_: well looks like the swap partition is gone or the uuid changed. did you edited your partitions recently ?
[19:04] <escott> Kick, there is a menu editor alacart
[19:04] <escott> alacarte
[19:04] <Kick> escoload_, thank you
[19:04] <nit-wit> jbarbero, if you turn off the auto connect of the wireless you should be there.
[19:04] <jbarbero> nit-wit: all I see is whether to connect to a particular network automatically or not. To put it simply, all I want is for wireless connections to happen when I'm not plugged in, and stop when I'm plugged in. I know how to do that in wicd, and I'd rather not have to write some daemon to do it for me.
[19:05] <vesa_> erUSUL, yeah i did. so that is the reason
[19:05] <jbarbero> nit-wit: OK, I did that. Let me see if it reconnects if I unplug.
[19:05] <erUSUL> vesa_: run ┬½ sudo blkid ┬╗ and find out the new uuid then update/edit fstab to reflect the changes
[19:05] <nit-wit> jbarbero, Ubuntu supposedly does this automatically but the popup is irratating
[19:05] <vesa_> erUSUL, ok :D
[19:06] <Alexqw> I am trying to mount a UFS formatted DVD-RAM disk.  I know that it is ufs2 and that the block size is 16384.  However, the mount command doesn't seem to accept "blocksize" as a valid option.  When I don't specify block size it errors out with "UFS: failed to set blocksize."  The command I'm using is: `mount -t ufs -r  -o blocksize=16384 -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sr1 /mnt/temp/`  Is it possible to mount a UFS volume on Ubuntu and specify the correct block size?
[19:06] <nit-wit> jbarbero, you may need to restart x to get the change to NM take effect I'm not sure, probably not.
[19:06] <sagaci> vesa_, knew it was in your fstab :)
[19:07] <g0rby> Could some one have a look at my grub.cfg? http://pastebin.com/YrDCeLZD the system boots if i press enter but the menu is out of range of the monitor so its just a black display until the default option has booted
[19:07] <jbarbero_> nit-wit: only result was that it did not try to reconnect when I disconnected. Besides, I'm not looking for an essid-specific setting...
[19:07] <vesa_> sagaci, heh, wait i will reboot :P
[19:07] <jbarbero_> nit-wit: but my blood pressure has had enough of this :), I'll just leave  the damn thing be
[19:08] <namzezam> how to remove linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  ?
[19:08] <escott> g0rby, nothing in the grub.conf specifies the mode that I see. You say that it looked good after the first grub install, but a grub reinstall broke things?
[19:09] <sagaci> jbarbero_ overwhelmed by the futuristic software? :p
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> namzezam: same as any other package
[19:10] <erUSUL> !software | namzezam
[19:10] <g0rby> escott: I installed xp on top of ubuntu then used a liveusb to reinstall grub with grub-install
[19:10] <namzezam> i tryied synapssys
[19:10] <namzezam> but
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> namzezam: use apt-get or software centre
[19:10] <kire> namzezam: I find ubuntu tweak useful for cleaning up things like old kernels
[19:10] <lioop> whats a good program that converts dvd's to dvd format and burns them
[19:10] <vesa_> erUSUL, now it works thanks :)
[19:10] <g0rby> escott: then i did grub-mkconfig from the booted system and put it in grub.cfg
[19:11] <erUSUL> vesa_: no problem
[19:11] <cubix> Greetings!
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> lioop: do you mean video to dvd?
[19:11] <lioop> yes
[19:11] <macca> hi i am wondering whether it is recommened to virtualise ubuntu using virtualbox inside windows vista
[19:11] <namzezam> it not let be reoved, sayng some thing like , i am in so much bad satae please reinsatll me, so i can no install nor remove it
[19:11] <lioop> like avi to dvd
[19:11] <lioop> ActionParsnip:
[19:11] <vesa_> sagaci, thanks to you too :D
[19:11] <cubix> Greetings!
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> lioop: devede is one option
[19:11] <sagaci> or handbrake
[19:12] <g0rby> escott: the system is booting the first option after i hit enter, i can see that from uname -r
[19:12] <lioop> I need something very simple
[19:12] <Alexqw> macca: What do you mean recomended?  Virtualizing Ubuntu works well, though obviously it's best to just install it and virtualize Vista instead ;-)
[19:12] <lioop> mandvd was perfect but unfortunatly its pooped up
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> lioop: from your first question, a DVD is already in DVD format by definition
[19:12] <macca> Alexqw: just wondering whether it works well
[19:12] <macca> so therefore my answer is yes
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> lioop: devede is simple enough
[19:13] <Alexqw> macca: yes it does work well.  I've never had any problems
[19:13] <macca> Alexqw: what software do you use
[19:13] <Alexqw> macca: virtualbox
[19:13] <lioop> ActionParsnip: I mean convert from avi to dvd
[19:13] <lioop> ActionParsnip: and then burn
[19:13] <Alexqw> macca: though on OS X I have also used Fusion by VMware
[19:13] <g0rby> escott: is there not some way to configure grub now so it autodetects the right video mode and updates the config or something? OR is grub-mkconfig meant to do that
[19:13] <macca> Alexqw: ok thats good, i will probably wait till 11 comes out on thursday though
[19:14] <Bob__> I want to run ubuntu + Windows but will be using just ubuntu for a time how do I run both while running ubuntu because the only way i can find is the wubi installer
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Macca: its one way, another is vmware and another is Microsoft virtual pc
[19:14] <arand> g0rby: Try using GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 (uncomment if neccessarcy) in /etc/default/grub and see if forcing that (or other resolutions) help?
[19:14] <escott> g0rby, grub2 autoconfigures itself when you load the vga modules. it works fine on my i3
[19:14] <arand> g0rby: after that run "update-grub"
[19:14] <Alexqw> macca: best of luck.  virtualization is so good now that for the kind of virtualization virtualbox is doing, Ubuntu doesn't even realize it's in a VM.
[19:14] <macca> bob: virtualization using virtualbox
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> lioop: yes devede will make a dvd iso which you can burn
[19:15] <macca> Alexqw: how much memory should i allocate from my vista 2gb system in order to still allow vista to work well for basic taks
[19:15] <macca> **tasks
[19:15] <leapy0yo> how do i format a usb card to fat32? under ubuntu
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> lioop: you could show initiative and research the app, you'll find its what you need
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: use gparted
[19:16] <Alexqw> macca: ooph... 2 B is a bit low.  Vista like RAM... I would suggest 512 or 768 for Ubuntu and the rest for Vista.  but you will notice a performance hit
[19:16] <tmb_> Im trying to install Ubuntu 11.4 beta2 on a laptop and it is hanging after asking my account setup info (spinning cursor, keeps showing me the slideshow, no questions about disk partitioning).  "ps" doesn't show anything obvious.  Is there any way to see what it's doing?
[19:16] <lioop> ActionParsnip: ya man Im downloading it
[19:16] <lioop> ActionParsnip: I will check it out
[19:17] <escott> leapy0yo, install gparted would be your easiest cli is mkfs.vfat
[19:17] <Alexqw> macca: vista doesn't like much less than 2 GB.
[19:17] <macca> alexqw: a performance hit in vista or ubu
[19:17] <lioop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:17] <vesa_> http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-156-invisible-walls/713172 <--- wow my linux freezes after few minutes watching that...all my memory is gone after few mins :/
[19:17] <MC8> What's the ubuntu version of the registry editor?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> lioop: its not bad. 64bitness helps with tasks like that
[19:17] <Alexqw> macca: Vista.  But I would say either.  If you dedicate a lot to Ubuntu, ubuntu will be happy and Vista will be slow.  Also, vice-versa
[19:17] <g0rby> arand: success =>
[19:17] <escott> MC8, there is gconf-editor... which has desktop gnome configuration but not system config
[19:17] <macca> alexqw: i wont be doing much on win at all when using ubu its just far easier to switch back as vista takes ages to boot on my comp
[19:18] <g0rby> escott / arand - ty
[19:18] <MC8> escott: it's the one I meant, anyway. Thanks :)
[19:18] <namzezam> kire : some link? what is ubuuntu tweak?
[19:18] <maco> namzezam: unrecommended
[19:18] <vesa_> erUSUL, can you help me with that memory problem :)
[19:18] <macca> alexqw:so therefore i should be ok with 768 for ubuntu - whats the minimum 11 will be able to cope with
[19:19] <arand> g0rby: Excellent, well something remains wrong then in the grub autodetection of your video mode, you may want to report a bug in order for it to get fixed in the futore.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Macca: use a light de like lxde instead of gnome and you will need to assign fewer resources to the VM
[19:19] <maco> namzezam: Computer Janitor should be able to help fine on cleaning up old stuff from your system. it's included by default
[19:19] <escott> arand, how does grub know that it can find /etc/default/grub? that seems flawed
[19:19] <g0rby> arand: strange as it didnt effect the intial install
[19:19] <tmb_> Can anybody help with Ubuntu 11.4 beta2 installation?  Is there another channel I should ask on?
[19:19] <vesa_> it happens with both
[19:20] <Somelauw> startx gnome?
[19:20] <macca> ActionParsnip: well 11 runs on unity anyway so i should be ok im guessing
[19:20] <vesa_> browsers
[19:20] <maco> namzezam: Ubuntu Tweak is the most recent in the long line of scripts that do things rather dangerously (not quite as bad as Automatix was, but still...)
[19:20] <vesa_> firefox and chromium
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Macca: lubuntu is made to run on 256mb systems :-)
[19:20] <g0rby> arand: actualy ... thats not true, since there was no menu when only one os was there :P
[19:20] <g0rby> will do
[19:20] <macca> ActionParsnip: looks like 750mb is ok then
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Macca: natty is offtopic here til release
[19:21] <macca> okay then
[19:21] <Alexqw> macca: I don't know what 11.04's minimum will be.  But 768 should be fine
[19:21] <tmb_> Where is Natty on-topic?  Is there a channel?
[19:21] <Alexqw> macca: experiemnt with it.  You'll figure out what works best
[19:21] <Pici> tmb_: #ubntu+1
[19:21] <tmb_> Thanks!
[19:21] <Pici> tmb_: Except spelled correctly: #ubuntu+1
[19:21] <Starminn> Pici: :)
[19:22] <Alexqw> So, to rephrase my UFS question from earlier... does anyone know where I should go to ask about the peculiarities of mounting UFS on Ubuntu?
[19:22] <Dirge1> i use intel core i3... what ubuntu download?(i386, amd64)
[19:23] <erUSUL> Dirge1: amd64
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Dirge1: how much ram do you have?
[19:23] <Dirge1> 4gb
[19:23] <arand> g0rby: Yea, if you don't have a dual-boot, the menu is hidden per default anyways, so probably you simply never saw the issue back then..
[19:23] <macca> another thing:- i have a 64bit processor but am only running a 32bit version of vista... will it be possible to virtualize ubuntu64 inside this
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> 64bit then  :-)
[19:24] <Alexqw> macca: no
[19:24] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[19:24] <Somelauw> awesome is already running. Can I go to tty1 and enter startx and it will start another instance of awesome?
[19:24] <Shaba1> is there and actual forum for wubi anywhere on the net.
[19:24] <Alexqw> macca: you should run i386
[19:24] <macca> Alexqw: ok then... will do:)
[19:24] <Shaba1> All the googleing I did turned up forums and blogs for ubuntu but not wubi specific ones
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Macca: considering you are assigning little ram to the vm, why 64bit?
[19:25] <namzezam> my only problem is  to get upgrade working
[19:25] <namzezam> it is already more than a week that it is not working
[19:25] <macca> ActionParsnip: very good point, i need to think before i speak
[19:26] <arand> Shaba1: I think the normal ubuntu forums would be the place... along with launchpad for bugtracking..
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Macca: its all good :)
[19:26] <damno> how can i disable auto-screen lock?
[19:26] <Dirge1> but trying running ubuntu amd64 LiveCD the staying black screen
[19:26] <namzezam> i came to this linux header since this block upgrading
[19:26] <Dirge1> i can do anything
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> damno: its in screensaver or power options
[19:27] <namzezam> this header is in section devel
[19:27] <Shaba1> thanks arand
[19:27] <Shaba1> Ok second question
[19:27] <escott> ActionParsnip, Macca one reason other than ram to run 64bit is to gain access to some of the newer wider SSE vector ops
[19:27] <Dirge1> just ctrl+alt+del = reset
[19:27] <namzezam> is it safe to remove it, if so how
[19:27] <Shaba1> which irc client do most linux users use?
[19:27] <namzezam> i am now rebooting
[19:27] <Alexqw> ActionParsnip: there are more advantages to 64-bit than more RAM, and actually contrary to popular opinion you can have well over 4GB of RAM on a 32-bit system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Dirge1: what gpu?
[19:27] <Shaba1> I am on mirc under windwos right now.
[19:27] <macca> escott: dont really need these myself
[19:27] <Alexqw> Linux supports up to 64GB of RAM on a 32-bit machines with PAE enabled.
[19:28] <Dirge1> nvidia Geforce 310M
[19:28] <m4xx> how do is set up a script to run after gnome login?
[19:28] <Pici> Alexqw: PAE does not support using more than 4GB of ram per process though.
[19:28] <damno> ActionParsnip: thanks. I just couldnt remember where it was :)
[19:28] <m4xx> i tried .gnomerc and that didn't work
[19:28] <Alexqw> pici: correct, but I don't imagine many of us are trying to do that on 32 bit systems
[19:29] <Dirge1> ActionParsnip, nvidia Geforce 310M
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Alexqw: i know that stuff but with little ram i doubt it'll get used in a way to need those features
[19:29] <escott> macca, there are also lots more registers. I understand that compiler writers think x86 is rather register starved and get a big boost from 64bit
[19:29] <Alexqw> I agree.  Just throwing it out there :-)
[19:29] <pozic> I have a graphical artifact (everything which is supposed to be white is black in nautilus, but other applications have the same thing) in the top left of my screen of about 7cm x 4 cm or so.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Dirge1: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:29] <macca> escott: anyhow, i cant run it virtualized so its no good to me
[19:29] <pozic> Are there any new nvidia drivers available?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Pozic: there is a ppa with 270 driver
[19:31] <hareldvd> I would like to have the URL line get selected onfocus like on MS machines. Any idea?
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[19:32] <DexterF> escott: cant follow, sorry
[19:34] <dcorbin_wk> How can I have a linux box report it's hostname and IP address to a DNS server (even though they're statically assigned)?
[19:34] <ashmew2> dcorbian_wk : you can use no-ip.org
[19:34] <alket> Hi, I want to update bluefish from this PPA https://launchpad.net/~klaus-vormweg/+archive/ppa , but I want just bluefish not other applications that are included there, how do I do that ?
[19:35] <ashmew2> make it fixed , instead of being changed each time , it will remain fixed
[19:35] <DexterF> escott: and no, no counting. just black screen,
[19:35] <DexterF> and the dialog
[19:35] <macca> Alexqw: does virtualbox take the full extent of the memory allocated to it even if not in use?
[19:35] <virgo> what does ubuntu need most, more coders or more good ideas?
[19:35] <ashmew2> dcorbin_wk : you can use no-ip.org . make it fixed , instead of being changed each time , it will remain fixed.
[19:36] <mfilipe> anyone knows any sensors applet to unity?
[19:36] <Alexqw> macca: what do you mean?
[19:36] <MK``> Are Mutter and Compiz ICCCM / EWMH compliant?
[19:36] <dcorbin_wk> ashmew2: no, this is for an internal set of machines.  I found nsudpate.  I just need to figure out how to find the machine to talk to.
[19:37] <macca> Alexqw: if i allocate 768mb to my virtual machine will the process constantly hog this much or is it adaptable based on what i am doing within ubuntu
[19:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | virgo
[19:37] <pozic> Where can I get the latest nvidia driver for the amd64 arch for Maverick?
[19:38] <pozic> Google points me at pkgs.org, which seems to be nothing official.
[19:38] <ikonia> pozic: why do you need newer ones ?
[19:38] <red2kic> pozic: Ubuntu's Additional Drivers. Otherwise, go to Nvidia website and run the bin yourself. It's always best to stick with your distro's stuffs.
[19:38] <Jordan_U> pozic: What is wrong with the drivers installed by System > Administration > Additional Drivers?
[19:38] <aif123> ok
[19:38] <m4xx> anyone?
[19:39] <aif123> gnome 3 on 10.04?
[19:39] <ikonia> m4xx: anyone what ?
[19:39] <m4xx> how can i execute a shell script on upon logging into gnome?
[19:39] <m4xx> .gnomerc doesn't seem to work
[19:39] <sec_goat> is there any way to check the validity of a raid from inside ubuntu?
[19:39] <ikonia> m4xx: there is an option for session startup programs
[19:39] <m4xx> neither does .profile or /etc/profile
[19:40] <red2kic> m4xx: System --> Preferences --> Startup Applications.
[19:40] <m4xx> need to do it from commandline
[19:40] <ikonia> sec_goat: sftware or hardware raid
[19:40] <macca> Alexqw: hello?
[19:40] <pozic> Jordan_U: I do not have that menu entry.
[19:40] <ikonia> m4xx: startup applications can run a shell script
[19:40] <padster> u know if u can use gnome 3/gtk3 with ubuntu 11.04 beta?
[19:40] <m4xx> i understand that, how do i set up a startup application from the command line?
[19:40] <Pici> padster : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:40] <m4xx> or how to i set up a global startup application?
[19:40] <aif123> any ubuntu 11.04 rc?
[19:40] <ikonia> m4xx: you don't - you use the gui
[19:40] <pozic> ikonia: because I just pointed out an issue I am having. The idea being that potentially that problem is solved in a newer version.
[19:40] <sec_goat> ikonia: Well the hardware raid would not let me install, so I used some option called Enable Serial ATA RAID configuraiton during the install. Ubuntu Server 10.04
[19:41] <jrib> m4xx: why do you need to do it from command line?  If you really want to add a .desktop file to ~/.config/autostart (iirc).  But just use the gui
[19:41] <ikonia> pozic: why do you think it's solved in the newer drivers ?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> Open a terminal and run "jockey-gtk".
[19:41] <Alexqw> macca: hey, sorry, I'm back.  i got interrupted
[19:41] <pozic> ikonia: I kind of hope that people that I am paying fix stuff.
[19:41] <ikonia> sec_goat: cat /proc/mdstat will show the raid array
[19:41] <jrib> Jordan_U: you didn't say "mother may i"
[19:41] <ikonia> pozic: you don't pay nvidia
[19:42] <Alexqw> macca: Virtualbox will claim all 768MB all the time, regardless of how much Ubuntu is using
[19:42] <pozic> ikonia: yes, I do/
[19:42] <ikonia> pozic: do you - you pay nvidia to write you kernel modules ?
[19:42] <macca> Alexqw: ok thanks
[19:42] <sec_goat> ikonia: cat /proc/mdstat
[19:42] <sec_goat> Personalities :
[19:42] <sec_goat> unused devices: <none>
[19:42] <pozic> ikonia: I paid for their product which includes drivers.
[19:42] <leapy0yo> how do i configure what applicatiokns ar listed in the applications pull down menu?
[19:42] <ikonia> pozic: not for linux it doesn't
[19:42] <Somelauw> When I run startx, does it start gnome window manager or what?
[19:42] <Pici> leapy0yo: Right click on the menu or run alacarte manually.
[19:42] <ikonia> sec_goat: there is no software raid arrays then
[19:43] <m4xx> jrib: awesome
[19:43] <m4xx> thanks =]
[19:43] <ikonia> pozic: an important step would be to verify if the problem you have is mentioned in the released notes of the current drivers as a fix
[19:43] <sec_goat> ikonia: Thats what I suspected, I am showing 2 hard drives in the computer management gui, any way to set up a post install software array?
[19:43] <ikonia> pozic: that way you know if it's worth the pain and risks
[19:44] <pozic> ikonia: the risks? Uhm, don't people, you know, TEST stuff before it is placed on a server to check for basic features?
[19:44] <escott> DexterF, sorry I keep losing my connection if you go into the screensaver power management is the "Put display to sleep when inactive" set to the same time as it takes for your password box to appear
[19:44] <erUSUL> sec_goat: system>admin...>disk utility can ( raid 1 only i think )
[19:44] <sec_goat> erUSUL:  thats exactly what I want!
[19:44] <DexterF> escott: ill check on that
[19:45] <pozic> ikonia: anyway, I asked a question. I suppose you are just here to waste my time?
[19:45] <erUSUL> sec_goat: well it can do raid  0, 1, 5 and 6.
[19:45] <pozic> I want to get the correct ppa with a launchpad URL containing it.
[19:45] <ikonia> pozic: not at all, I'm here to advise/help you not waste it, hence why it's worth checking if your problem is fixed in the new versions
[19:45] <ikonia> pozic: if not the risk is not worth it
[19:45] <sec_goat> erUSUL: Only have 2 drives so I was planning on a 1 any way :)
[19:46] <Macer> ugh. this resilvering it taking forever
[19:46] <ikonia> sec_goat: just grabbing a guide
[19:46] <ikonia> sec_goat: I assume you want a mirror ?
[19:46] <pozic> ikonia: can you please just answer the question and not lecture someone with likely more experience than you have?
[19:46] <sec_goat> ikonia: correct
[19:46] <ikonia> pozic: if you have more experience than me you wouldn't be asking such basic questions, so good luck
[19:47] <ikonia> pozic: pretty stupid to brag about experience when you don't know the others guys position
[19:47] <unitenight> After making changes to alsamixer, it will reset to default after reboot. How can I permanently change it?
[19:47] <ikonia> sec_goat: it's an old thread, I wrote it a long time ago, however it still works fine now
[19:47] <ikonia> sec_goat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454116&highlight=ikonia+raid
[19:48] <pozic> ikonia: I see the kind of answers you are giving.
[19:48] <Macer> unitenight: add alsa to your startup/shutdown scripts
[19:48] <pozic> ikonia: you are just here to waste time.
[19:48] <rwwowt> Hi guys! how can I run a .pl (perl) file from my prompt ?
[19:48] <Pici> pozic: Stop that.
[19:48] <Macer> so it remembers your settings
[19:48] <ikonia> pozic: good luck finding your basic URL then - I'll waste my time with other people
[19:48] <pozic> ikonia: I found the answer myself. Thanks for _nothing_.
[19:48] <ikonia> welcome
[19:48] <sec_goat> ikonia:  thanks
[19:49] <unitenight> Macer: thank you
[19:49] <ikonia> sec_goat: keep in mind you'll need to change the device names/sizes to match your system
[19:50] <soner> hello
[19:50] <sec_goat> ikonia: I can do that, I see you wrote this answer too, awesome, thanks a lot!
[19:50] <ikonia> sec_goat: no problem, any problems just ask
[19:50] <rwwowt> Please can someone tell me how can I run a .pl  file from shell ?
[19:50] <Pici> rwwowt: perl file.ph
[19:50] <erUSUL> rwwowt: perl file.pl
[19:50] <ikonia> rwwowt: it's a perl script normally so "perl file.pl"
[19:51] <namzezam> please do not ignore this one  linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic 2.6.35-28.49 BLOCKS ANY upgrade on my system, what should i do now? here is what i get:
[19:51] <namzezam> Preparing to replace linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic 2.6.35-28.49 (using .../linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic_2.6.35-28.50_i386.deb) ...
[19:51] <namzezam> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ...
[19:51] <namzezam> dpkg: ../../src/archives.c:809: tarobject: Assertion `r == stab.st_size' failed.
[19:51] <FloodBot1> namzezam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <erUSUL> rwwowt: or if it has the correct shebang -> "chomd +x file.pl" and then "./file.pl"
[19:51] <N7> BOOBIES
[19:51] <N7> o hai
[19:52] <ikonia> N7: check the topic and rules of the channel before speaking again please
[19:52] <N7> DCC Start Sendkeylogger
[19:52] <N7> wat
[19:52] <zfk> How can I install a package and Ignore the suggested packages? I want to install php5 and use lighttpd, but apache is suggested and it wants to pull that in
[19:52] <N7> stupid Y_u_no
[19:52] <Colonel_Sanders> wat
[19:52] <escott> erUSUL, shebang means #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/bin/bash on the first line
[19:53] <erUSUL> zfk: --no-recomends
[19:53] <Colonel_Sanders> what does that do?
[19:53] <erUSUL> escott: yes
[19:53] <MC8> Is there a way to make the weather panel in GNOME display the wind speed in the topbar?
[19:53] <Pici> escott: you probably meant that for rwwowt
[19:53] <escott> erUSUL, sorry I know you know that, meant to explain to rwwowt
[19:53] <erUSUL> zfk: even --no-install-recommends
[19:55] <GuyCanada> hey guys im trying to install a program called torrentUI, its supposed to enable a torrent system im boxee. im trying to install from tarball and i cant get it to work. ive cd'ed to the directory but when i run ./configure or make or make install nothing happens
[19:55] <ashmew2> My last kernel logs , my system rebooted and i had alook at system logs ... http://pastebin.com/yvAmPpLU
[19:55] <namzezam> i post it on http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/ hope it helps
[19:55] <ashmew2> anyone help
[19:55] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: read the INSTALL file
[19:55] <T-Co> Can someone help me with cryptswap problem, preventing to boot after distribution upgrade... SOme info: http://paste.arkku.net/16327441464db5c2f8c1fa5
[19:56] <GuyCanada> erUSUL: there is none ive checked
[19:56] <brontosaurusrex> zfk, how are you installing?
[19:56] <T-Co> Should parted --list show partition 6 as swap?
[19:56] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: maybe it already compiled; a binary distribution. and you only have to run it
[19:56] <sec_goat> ikonia: when creating the new partition shoudl it be logical or primary?
[19:57] <GuyCanada> erUSUL: it says its a tarball file and there doesnt appear to be anyhting TO run as a binary, its a few python files and an image so far as i can tell
[19:57] <ikonia> sec_goat: doesn't matter as long as the partition type is linux/raid
[19:58] <zfk> brontosaurusrex: sudo apt-get install lighttpd lighttpd-doc php5 php5-mysql   erUSUL: that didnt work, its still pulling in apache2
[19:58] <T-Co> I first updated from 10.04 -> 10.10n and this prpblem appeared, then now I further upgraded to 11.04 and am now trying to figure out this problem before booting again... (managed to get running with previous kernel in recovery mode)
[19:58] <escott> sec_goat, depends on how many partitions you have, first 3 are usually primary and the 4th is extended containing logical partitions
[19:58] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: one of the pythin files may be the program ....
[19:58] <jrib> GuyCanada: read the documentation :)
[19:58] <GuyCanada> erUSUL: ok ill check
[19:58] <pozic> ikonia: I was right. Next time, just answer the stupid question or shut your mouth.
[19:58] <T-Co> Any pointers?
[19:58] <GuyCanada> jrib: there isnt much documentation, a short readme that wasnt any help
[19:59] <jrib> GuyCanada: ah, then source code == documentation in that case :/
[19:59] <Rods_Tiger> Since I upgraded to natty, minidlna has ceased to function correctly. I see the appropriate folders from my WDTV Live, as before, but it complains there's no media now. Nothing had changed in my minidlna setup, which worked before the natty upgrade.
[20:00] <gude> nostalgia
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> zfk, last time i did that i followed  this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/lighttpd-webserver-setup-with-php5-and-mysql-support.html possibly out of date guide
[20:01] <GuyCanada> erUSUL: none of the python programs appear to be the program, at least i dont know what to do if they are, the programs are labled rtorrent client, utorrent client, transmission client and torrent_UI
[20:01] <rwwowt> when I try to run it says you need an AP to use? what does it mean? knowing that i already executed chmod +x file.pl
[20:01] <zfk> brontosaurusrex, thnx ill give it a look over
[20:02] <brontosaurusrex> GuyCanada, maybe this are only plugins for specific client you need to install separatedly, what does docs say?
[20:02] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: i found it in the net. i think it is supposed to be intalled in boxee box and that the boxee interface will know what to do eith them.... offtopic here though
[20:02] <erUSUL> rwwowt: what does the script is supposed to do ?
[20:02] <GuyCanada> erUSUL: ahh i see ill try to explore boxee then, thanks
[20:02] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: ask in a boxee channel/forum
[20:02] <GuyCanada> brontosaurusrex: how would i install the plugins to the specific clients?
[20:03] <T-Co> I ran 'sudo blkid -c /dev/null' and got this: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: UUID="7b22488a-55a2-4c73-b06a-56361fc04894" TYPE="swap"
[20:03] <brontosaurusrex> GuyCanada, offtopic, try boxee channel as suggested
[20:03] <Starminn> Could someone bot me the factoid for microphone compatability (if there is one)?
[20:03] <T-Co> It's a different UUID, should I change this to fstab crypttab and initramfs resume file?
[20:03] <GuyCanada> brontosaurusrex: thanks
[20:04] <sec_goat> ikonia: it seems i cannot delete the partitions on the second disk sdb1, sdb2,sdb5. sudo fdisk lets me at least say i delete, but they are still there. . . any ideas?
[20:04] <ikonia> sec_goat: is the disk mounted (/dev/sdb) ?
[20:04] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone know how to take the output of xinput and make it human readable?
[20:05] <escott> TheRedOctober, in what way is it not readable
[20:05] <sec_goat> ikonia: not mounted . . . I bet that woudl help huh?
[20:05] <KM0201> lol
[20:05] <ikonia> sec_goat: no not at all
[20:05] <ikonia> sec_goat: you can only change a partition table if the disk is not mounted/in use
[20:06] <rwwowt> erUSUL, the script gets information about a rooter
[20:06] <GuyCanada> ok well might be off topic again but if i have a python file can i jsut copy the text and try to run it in a terminal?
[20:06] <T-Co> Ok, managed to get past the first error. DOes someone know if this error will prevent booting? "cryptsetup: WARNING: target cryptswap1 has a random key, skipped"
[20:06] <sec_goat> ikonia: when I use d to delete from fdisk it just goes back to the fdisk cursor. . . from the GUI it just tells me permission denied when i try to delete. . .
[20:06] <erUSUL> rwwowt: AP == access point
[20:06] <TheRedOctober> escott: I actually just need to figure out how to set the keymap, i am getting 'key press $keynumber', i need to find out how to set $keynumber to the appropriate value
[20:07] <ikonia> sec_goat: you have to press "w" to write the changes
[20:07] <ikonia> sec_goat: worth a little check on the fdisk man page to make sure you're comfortable with what's going on
[20:07] <erUSUL> GuyCanada: install intructions here http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=14559
[20:07] <sec_goat> ikonia: leave it up to me to miss a step. . . I read it like 100 times, and if it were a snake i would be dead
[20:07] <rwwowt> erUSUL, ah ok, thanks:)
[20:07] <sec_goat> ikonia: readin man fdisk now
[20:07] <escott> sec_goat, you are running fdisk as root
[20:07] <ikonia> sec_goat: just get comfortable, take your time and do it step by step
[20:07] <ikonia> sec_goat: any problems, just ask
[20:08] <ikonia> and as escott suggested "sudo fdisk"
[20:08] <quijote> como instalo la tarjeta canopus dvstorm en ubuntus 10.10
[20:09] <Starminn> Where is the icon for the Trash can for the Humanity Dark theme?
[20:09] <arquebus> !es
[20:09] <jiltdil> any channel where people help me realted to port forwarding?
[20:09] <quijote> how instal canopus video car dvstorm in ubuntus 10.10
[20:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> so, the "make startup disk" utility is supposed to be able to make bootable usb disks from iso images correct?
[20:12] <escott> TheRedOctober, are you watching input events and trying to map keymaps to letters?
[20:12] <Asmodeus871> I have tremendous trouble getting my RTL9192 pci wifi card to work on 10.10 64 bits -- paste of lspci and iwconfig - rfkill lists nothing http://paste.ubuntu.com/598882/
[20:12] <rwwowt> erUSUL, tell me pls I can enter parameters when calling the perl script? and how?
[20:13] <quijote> please how install an canopus cart dvstorm2 in ubutnus 10.10
[20:14] <erUSUL> rwwowt: ./file.pl -option here ?
[20:14] <erUSUL> rwwowt: read the docs of the script
[20:15] <johntestuser> hello??
[20:15] <rwwowt> erUSUL, ok, thank you again!!
[20:15] <johntestuser> i have a question.
[20:15] <maco> johntestuser: so ask it and if someone can answer they will
[20:16] <Spaz_Dynamic> so, the "make startup disk" utility is supposed to be able to make bootable usb disks from iso images correct? Why doesn't it add any selected ISOs to the list of available sources? I'm left with my /dev/sr0 and sr1 for my disk drives (both currently have disks) I'm trying to make bootable flash drives for slackware and windows7 using their respective ISOs
[20:16] <johntestuser> I read that there will no longer be distributed cd's...so can i go and still download for free??
[20:16] <dekela> johntestuser: yes you can
[20:17] <xangua> Spaz_Dynamic: that's only for ubuntu, for other LINUX distros you can try Unetbootin or MultiSystem
[20:17] <johntestuser> Is there a way to install an OS on a removable Hard Disk, and only use it for that computer?
[20:18] <Spaz_Dynamic> xangua: really? I could have sworn I've used it to do this before
[20:18] <xangua> johntestuser: yes, you can also buy a cd from canonical store
[20:18] <kalleth2> D DCD3DCDDDDDDDDDCD44444444444444CCD
[20:18] <sec_goat> ikonia: apparently I do not have the mdadm utility installed is there a best practice n installing this? or just apt-get install? thanks again for all of your help
[20:19] <escott> sec_goat, yes apt-get install
[20:20] <ikonia> sec_goat: just grab it (I'm just eating)
[20:20] <sec_goat> thanks guys
[20:20] <Mac_Weber> anyone there using ISPconfig? mine stopped writing the DNS zone files. How to fix it?
[20:21] <Starminn> Where do I put wallpapers to have them always come up inthe list of wallpapers?
[20:22] <abountu> I bought a new camera, I connected it to my pc, it got mounted automatically, all is good except I can't delete files, it says: Read-only file system
[20:22] <abountu> how can I get ubuntu to automatically mount it as read-write?
[20:23] <Souperman> it depens on the camera
[20:23] <escott> ~/.backgrounds
[20:23] <Souperman> i had that problem whit a canon, i had to take the memory card and read it directly to avoid the problem, im sure there is a soft way but that worked for me
[20:24] <abountu> Souperman, I have a panasonic DMC-FP3, any idea how to deal with it?
[20:24] <Starminn> escott: No.
[20:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> howcome nautilus crashes everytime I click to unmount a volume when booted from the livecd?
[20:25] <tjiggi_fo> Asmodeus871, yours is an RTL8192 (may be a typo in your previous post?), but I see little out there to help and all posts are from 2009/10
[20:25] <escott> abountu, you aren't mounting anything you are controlling the camera through the usb (except for a few that present themselves as usb-mass storage), if you have a card read you could put the card in it
[20:25] <jackster> evenin folks, been looking at some netbooks with the intention of putting Ubuntu on one, I remember from a while back that Intel chipsets were the best supported - is that still the case?
[20:25] <Souperman> abountu, as i said you, there might be a way but i don't know, i avoided the problem reading the memory card directly
[20:26] <iceroot> jackster: ever saw a netbook without intel chipset?
[20:26] <jackster> iceroot: good point.
[20:26] <selig5> Starminn: wallpapers are in /user/share/backgrounds
[20:27] <jackster> ok, does anyone know if there's a particular modern netbook out there which ubuntu gets along well with?
[20:27] <iceroot> !hardware | jackster
[20:28] <jackster> smashing, thanks iceroot
[20:28] <jackster> good lord, this is genius
[20:28] <Asmodeus87> tjiggi_fo: Oh yeah 8192. I tried everything... actually most of the posts have no drivers, where I do have drivers. I tried using ndiswrapper as well, vosat windows 7 and xp drivers. Most did nothing one locks up my system (the xp one IIRC)
[20:28] <jackster> there was nothing like this last time I was thinking about getting a netbook :o
[20:29] <selig5> Starminn: correction, /usr/share/backgrounds
[20:29] <Starminn> selig5: I knew what you meant. ;) I'm gonna try ti real quick.
[20:29] <Oday> my firefox won't enable me to middle click on a bookmark and open it in a new tab, nor right click on one..both actions cause a left click reaction
[20:29] <tjiggi_fo> Asmodeus871, (actually an RTL8192E), anyhow I won't be of any help to you. You should think of posting on ubuntuforums maybe
[20:30] <Starminn> selig5: No luck.
[20:30] <industrial> I have updated to 11.10 on my macbook pro 7,1 and now my ubuntu will not boot. It's stuck on "Checking battery state ..." or somesuch during boot, and I don't know how to fix that, and can't find anything about it on google.
[20:30] <iceroot> industrial: 11.10?
[20:31] <selig5> Starminn: that's strange
[20:31] <farmer> Hi. I have an NTFS drive with Windows software installed on it. I am attempting to run this software in WINE, but it says it does not have its executable bit enabled. When I try to enable this in the properties, the checkbox clears itself after each attempt. How can I do this another way or fix it?
[20:31] <industrial> 11.04? the latest beta :p
[20:31] <escott> Starminn, selig5 there has to be some hidden preference somewhere to make things visible
[20:31] <xangua> !natty | industrial
[20:31] <Souperman> Oday, buy a new mouse
[20:31] <Oday> that's not the issue
[20:31] <Oday> it works elsewhere
[20:31] <industrial> cheers
[20:32] <Oday> but only when i go to Bookmarks and try this does it happen
[20:32] <Starminn> selig5: Tried it before to no avail, and didn't work this time either. The only way I can get them to show up is if I set the image as a background, it stays in the list to choose from till I restart.
[20:32] <farmer> Hi. I have an NTFS drive with Windows software installed on it. I am attempting to run this software in WINE, but it says it does not have its executable bit enabled. When I try to enable this in the properties, the checkbox clears itself after each attempt. How can I do this another way or fix it?
[20:32] <Asmodeus87> tjiggi_fo: I probably should. I may wait until 11 hits and see it upgrading fixes it
[20:32] <Starminn> farmer: In a terminal, type "wine /path/to/file"
[20:33] <escott> Starminn, in ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml
[20:33] <farmer> Starminn, I'll give that a shot
[20:33] <Spaz_Dynamic> ok, this is crap. sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1 [returns "Contains a mounted filesystem"] so I then go and click to unmount/eject/whatever in nautilus and run again. this time it says "no such file or directory" What the heck is going on?
[20:33] <Starminn> farmer: When you get that error you have to (for whatever reason) run it from a terminal. /path/to/file is of course the file path to what you're looking for.
[20:33] <Mac_Weber> anyone there using ISPconfig? mine stopped writing the DNS zone files. How to fix it?
[20:33] <CkhiKuzad> Hello. For some reason my Grub2 has been wiped out. Windows did a check disk today, and now it is saying that there's an unknown filesystem.
[20:33] <farmer> Starminn, What if the application is launching other applications? I'm trying Steam.
[20:33] <Starminn> escott: I have to edit the XML by hand just to add a wallpaper to the list of options by default?
[20:34] <Starminn> farmer: Do you have Steam working?
[20:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> if its mounted, it can't use it, if its unmounted, it can't see it
[20:34] <farmer> Starminn, yes
[20:34] <escott> Starminn, or use gconf-tool to make the wallpaper "gconftool-2 --set \
[20:34] <escott>             /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename \
[20:34] <escott>             --type string '%s'" % file_path
[20:34] <central> hi, whitch tool can I use to discover al Ip's actually online on my network?
[20:35] <Starminn> farmer: Oh, I'm not sure then. Try it, though. You might have to have Steam up beforehand, then afterwards launch it through Terminal. maybe it will workwithin it then.
[20:35] <escott> which is sadly easier
[20:35] <farmer> Starminn, Thanks
[20:35] <Starminn> farmer: I have no experience with Steam, though, so that's as much as I can help.
[20:35] <Samo502> central: i've always used Nmap
[20:35] <Samo502> central: but it doesn't come default
[20:36] <Starminn> escott: Hmm... Not worth it, lol. Thanks though! I'll just stick to Right-click image, "Set as background". :)
[20:37] <daedaluz> Synaptic is slooowww... where to start solving the problem?
[20:38] <POOPHAMMER> hi guys
[20:39] <POOPHAMMER> i am wondering if there is a network install i can do sort of how debian installs via network?
[20:39] <dekela> daedaluz: SW Sources
[20:39] <POOPHAMMER> just pop in the cd and it downloads the rest of the OS
[20:39] <dekela> Check the main server you are using
[20:39]  * jiltdil A single conversation with a wise man is better than ten years of study.  So i used to be here :)
[20:39] <Samo502> POOPHAMMER: yes get the minimal CD
[20:39] <daedaluz> dekela: it's not the server, its the interface
[20:39] <Samo502> POOPHAMMER: you put it in and it downloads the rest
[20:39] <daedaluz> apt-get and software centre work as usual
[20:40] <Samo502> POOPHAMMER: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:40] <POOPHAMMER> Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" Minimal CD 15.6MB (MD5: 3d9f096398991ed1eaa9ff32128e199a, SHA1: ea621a169b55d4c759f19600fea78e4ba7b83ba4)
[20:40] <POOPHAMMER> Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" Minimal CD 15.6MB (MD5: 3d9f096398991ed1eaa9ff32128e199a, SHA1: ea621a169b55d4c759f19600fea78e4ba7b83ba4)
[20:40] <ashmew2> inside the logs , ata1: soft resetting link means that the system will be rebooted ?
[20:40] <POOPHAMMER> sorry for repear
[20:40] <POOPHAMMER> repeat
[20:40] <POOPHAMMER> but that one?
[20:40] <Samo502> if you mean a CD that you download almost nothing with and the install does the downloading
[20:40] <Samo502> then yes
[20:41] <Samo502> that would be what you're looking for
[20:41] <jiltdil> Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere.
[20:41] <POOPHAMMER> thanks i will give this a try
[20:41] <POOPHAMMER> wish me luck!
[20:42] <illuminarch> Algu├®m do Brasil?
[20:42] <Pici> !br | illuminarch
[20:42] <CkhiKuzad> Nevermind. I got it fixed.
[20:42] <CkhiKuzad> Goodbye.
[20:44] <Lisa1> Does anyone know an easy way to add extra spaces at the end of multiple lines in a text file?  I have a text file that ends at column 858 and needs to end at column 620.  It is 869 rows long and I don't want to do each line!
[20:45] <octavio-rdz> hi room, I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04 installation in a SSD, the system in SSD but the home partition is in a normal HDD and I get a message saying "Serious errors where found in the device /home" booting
[20:45] <Pici> octavio-rdz : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:45] <octavio-rdz> but after pressing I (Ignore) the systems boots OK
[20:45] <Soyo> Bad upgrade.. checked the harddrive and its OK.. still can't do anyhing even with root because it keeps saying "read-only filesystem"
[20:46] <illuminarch> Pici thank you, but the channel of ubuntu nobody helps nobody Andr├® Gondim that Ubuntu is a board member, send all your questions users to search on google.
[20:46] <Soyo> !readonly
[20:46] <octavio-rdz> the drivers are ok (according to fsck) I found in the internet that it might be cause the SSD responses too quickly that is ready  vs the response of the HDD
[20:46] <illuminarch> I just want to know how to contact the Ubuntu project, I believe they do not know that the Ubuntu channel in Brazil is about to be closed, members are almost always in fights and even disrespecting the terms and conditions of freenode, there is no moderation on channel And has become a mess and it bothers me, I need help.
[20:46] <maco> jcrigby: you are needed in #ubuntu-meeting
[20:46] <LjL> illuminarch: join #ubuntu-irc
[20:47] <octavio-rdz> I was wondering if anyone knows if this is a possibility, and if so is there a work around this?
[20:47] <Pici> illuminarch: You could contact the loco council, see #ubuntu-locoteams as well as the IRC Council in #ubuntu-irc
[20:47] <illuminarch> thank
[20:48] <Redeadhunter> Need help installing Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 32-Bit on Intel(R) Celeron(tm) processor 1100 MHz
[20:49] <Samo502> Redeadhunter: what problem are you having? or have you simply never done it before?
[20:49] <Redeadhunter> I've never done it, and...CD-ROM boot is giving me an Error:
[20:50] <Redeadhunter> Non-system disc or Disc Error
[20:50] <Samo502> i'd say there was a write error while writing it
[20:50] <Samo502> when it comes to writing ubuntu/large disks, it's a good idea your speed isn't set to max because it'll cause an error almost every time
[20:51]  * LAcan just got banned from ##windows for saying "the chinese are trying to steal your passwords"
[20:51] <LAcan> har har har
[20:51] <Samo502> to see if*
[20:51] <Redeadhunter> I downloaded the .iso from the Ubuntu website and burned it using IMGBurn as another Ubuntu user instructed
[20:51] <ashmew2> System restarting for no apparent reason..Any helps please ?
[20:52] <Samo502> Redeadhunter: it's not really a matter of what writes it, the CD/DVD burner itself can make the error when writing at full speed
[20:52] <Haraken> how do I disable cloudinit from startup without uninstalling it?
[20:52] <Waldii> hey, i have a problem at installing my graphics card right, have a notebook with switchable grafics cards and it seem to load the wrong at the start
[20:52] <Guest9905> hello
[20:52] <jrib> Haraken: how does it startup now?
[20:52] <mack> I downloaded a tar that had source code and now I am having trouble compiling the .sh program to run it.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Redeadhunter: Did you verify the md5sum of the iso and the integrity of the burned disk?
[20:53] <jrib> mack: what exactly are you trying to install?
[20:53] <maco> mack: .sh are scripts. they dont need to be compiled
[20:53] <Redeadhunter> Ah, that's helpful. This is my BIOS info, if that gets us anywhere
[20:53] <mack> an email encryption program for my college class
[20:53] <jrib> mack: too vague
[20:53] <Redeadhunter> Not that I know of, how do I do that?
[20:53] <TheRedOctober> Waldii: can you be more specific?
[20:53] <mack> called Safester
[20:53] <Haraken> jrib, I'm not sure.  I don't see it in /etc/init.d but it seems to be causing the system to hang on startup.  "DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 19:53:23 [30/100]: url error [timed out]"
[20:53] <Samo502> Redeadhunter: it's on the disk's main menu
[20:54] <jrib> Haraken: in /etc/init?  Was this installed through a package?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Samo502: He can't even get to the isolinux menu at this point.
[20:54] <Haraken> I think it was yes
[20:54] <Jordan_U> !md5 | Redeadhunter
[20:54] <ashmew2> System restarting for no apparent reason..Any helps please ?
[20:54] <mack> the files are unpacked in usr/src/Safester
[20:55] <stefan1a> hello?
[20:55]  * LAcan nods at stefan1a 
[20:55] <mack> there is an source code called "Install.sh" that I can't get to run
[20:55] <Waldii> is there a way to disable the touchpad of a notebook? xD
[20:56] <brontosaurusrex> mack, chmod +x ./install.sh
[20:56] <Samo502> mack: are there any other .sh files that you might need to run first? like a compile or make file?
[20:56] <stefan1a> I recently installed ArchLinux, and whenever I boot, I still get the ArchLinux clean grub menu list, but my previous one had many Ubuntu listings, my Windows partition, etc... How can I get my comp to boot and show my old grub menu list?
[20:56] <Samo502> assuming that you've given it permission to run already
[20:56] <stefan1a> (I'm using Ubuntu right now, btw...)
[20:56] <mack> no. I downloaded this .sh and thought that would run all by itself. I'll go change the permissions right now. BRB
[20:56] <mongy> Waldii, google touchpad-indicator
[20:56] <ohzie> Waldii: install touchpad-indicator
[20:56] <ohzie> mongy: lol
[20:57] <Waldii> loool
[20:57] <Waldii> XD
[20:57] <Samo502> stefan1a: i'm going to assume your old list doesn't exist anymore?
[20:57] <Waldii> ty
[20:57] <ikonia> stefan1a: archlinux grub will overwride it
[20:57] <ikonia> override itr
[20:57] <stefan1a> Samo502: I no longer have a menu.lst, but I ran sudo update-grub a few moments ago, and it seemed to generate the list in grub.cfg
[20:58] <mack> says "run command not found"
[20:58] <arand> stefan1a: That is the way of grub2
[20:58] <ashmew2> Where are the system restart logs placed ..So i can have a look at the issue which caused a random restart of my computer ?
[20:58] <sec_goat> ikonia: trying to step through the tutorial and getting an mdadm error. . . trying ot look up what it means and how to fix: mdadm: /dev/md0 is not a block device.
[20:58] <arand> ashmew2: Most logs are in /var/log/
[20:58] <stefan1a> arand: so how can I tell archlinux to start using its grub over my grub2?
[20:58] <ikonia> sec_goat: did you create /dev/md0 ?
[20:58] <ikonia> sec_goat: ls -la /dev/md0
[20:58] <stefan1a> stop using its grub*
[20:58] <ashmew2> arand : how do i tell which ones i need ?
[20:59] <TheRedOctober> ashmew2: /var/log/dmesg is what you are looking for?
[20:59] <LAcan> stefan1a, in your system panel you'll have one called "Startup Manager" try running that
[20:59] <ashmew2> TheRedOctober : do i do a cat /var/log/dmesg ?
[20:59] <LAcan> stefan1a, alterntely search synaptics for "grub 2 config"
[20:59] <TheRedOctober> ashmew2: roger that
[20:59] <sec_goat> ikonia: yes sir: crw-r--r-- 1 root root 9, 0 2011-04-25 15:57 /dev/md0
[20:59] <LAcan> stefan1a, either of those should let you make the necessary changes
[20:59] <ashmew2> TheRedOctober : how do i find the system restart line ?
[20:59] <stefan1a> LAcan: thanks, will definitely try them
[20:59] <Redeadhunter> My md5sum document cannot be read from any of my text editors or file viewers
[20:59] <ikonia> sec_goat: it needs to be a block device, not a character device, was it you that made "/dev/md0" or did the system make it for you ?
[21:00] <LAcan> stefan1a, youre in ubuntu now yes?
[21:00] <arand> stefan1a: For arch, ask in their channel, for ubutu grub, use dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to install and use the ubuntu version of grub.
[21:00] <stefan1a> LAcan: yep
[21:00] <Samo502> LAcan: yes he is
[21:00] <sec_goat> ikonia: created it using mknod I believe: sudo mknod /dev/md0 c 9 0 . . .  I am assuming the c is for character and not block?
[21:00] <LAcan> stefan1a, ya look for that grub 2 config program, and run os-prober from the command line before using it
[21:00] <ikonia> sec_goat: you need to use mknod "b" not "c"
[21:01] <sec_goat> can i rmnod it?
[21:01] <ikonia> sec_goat: just remove it with "rm"
[21:01] <TheRedOctober> ashmew2: do a "cat $logfile | less" to search around it
[21:01] <psusi> sec_goat, ikonia: you should not need to run mknod ever
[21:01] <TheRedOctober> ashmew2: also, check out syslog
[21:01] <ikonia> psusi: there are situations you will
[21:01] <sec_goat> psusi: what do you suggest?
[21:01] <LAcan> stefan1a, if u cant find it i can boot ubuntu and look for its specific name, but the startup manager should already be installed in your system panel
[21:02] <mack> samo582 I tried make "filename" but it didnt work
[21:02] <ikonia> sec_goat: you will need to run mknod in this situation
[21:02] <psusi> ikonia: 20 years ago, but not these days.. the kernel automatically creates device nodes these days
[21:02] <ikonia> psusi: in this situation, he will need to create it
[21:02] <psusi> ikonia: why?
[21:02] <stefan1a> LAcan: got it already, thanks
[21:02] <ikonia> psusi: because it needs to make sure it's created specfically, and he's creating a degraded raid array from an inuse disk so it will not get auto created
[21:03] <LAcan> stefan1a, good, run os-proper which will buid a lit of your other OS's and then u can import them easily thru the grub 2 confi program
[21:03] <mack> I changed permissioons to +x on the Install.sh, but I can't get it to run using the "run" command
[21:03] <LAcan> os-prober
[21:03] <ikonia> mack: there is no command called" run
[21:03] <jrib> mack: no "run" command
[21:03] <psusi> ikonia: when you create the array with mdadm, the dev node will be created automatically
[21:03] <Samo502> mack: try running it with a terminal and seeing what the output is
[21:03] <jrib> mack: just: ./install.sh
[21:03] <LAcan> mack "./Install.sh"
[21:03] <mack> K. BRB
[21:03] <ikonia> mack: "./Install.sh"
[21:03] <sec_goat> ikonia: ubuntu is always very humbling when I try to use it. . . now mdadm says I have no raid disk specified as the error when i try: sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 missing /dev/sdb1
[21:03] <ikonia> psusi: not in a degraded array, it doesn't always pickup and he needs to amke sure it's created with the lower block number
[21:04] <jrib> mack: capitalization is important (I may have missed the capital "I")
[21:04] <ikonia> sec_goat: do you have /dev/md0 created ?
[21:04] <LAcan> sec_goat, do u actually have a created RAID array?
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[21:04]  * LAcan lols at ikonia 
[21:04] <ikonia> LAcan: ?
[21:04] <sec_goat> ikonia: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 9, 0 2011-04-25 16:02 /dev/md0
[21:04] <LAcan> JINX!
[21:04] <psusi> ikonia: either the array is activated or it is not... if it is activated ( iirc you had to pass a switch to force a degraded activation ) then the dev node is created.  If it is not activated, then mknod will not help
[21:04] <mack> That worked! It said it is now installed.
[21:05] <psusi> ikonia: creating the dev node with mknod when the device does not actually exist in the kernel does no good
[21:05] <ikonia> psusi: try it, degraded arrays do not always create device files - it's a bug, it's known about
[21:05] <stefan1a> I can't find "grub 2 config"
[21:05] <guntbert> Redeadhunter: what md5sum document?
[21:05] <psusi> ikonia: if it wasn't created, then it wasn't activated, and so creating the node won't do any good... you will just get an error about no such device when you try to open it
[21:05] <Samo502> guntbert: he's having trouble with an ubuntu install disk
[21:05] <mack> Now, it's not finding the Jave that came with the downloaded package. It's in the directory. I see it there
[21:05] <ikonia> mdadm needs the device file to build the degraded raid array, it's only temporary until he reboots, it's a non-existant array so no device file has been created
[21:05] <stefan1a> ah, just installed grub2...
[21:06] <Redeadhunter> guntbert: the one that burned onto the disc
[21:06] <mack> It's called "Safester.jar"
[21:06] <ikonia> psusi: tell you what, you read the back scroll and what he's trying to do and walk him through it, I'm not going to progress this while debating it with you
[21:06] <stefan1a> also, should grub not be installed?
[21:07] <iceroot> stefan1a: /etc/default/grub
[21:07] <ashmew2>  0.576714] PM: Resume from disk failed. inside dmesg logs means that the random system reboot was caused by the hard disk ?
[21:08] <guntbert> Redeadhunter: step 1) check the downloaded iso file: md5sum <file>      wait some time and compare the output with the value from the website
[21:08] <arand> stefan1a: If you want to reinstall ubuntu's grub2, use dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and select the correct drive..
[21:08] <api984_> hello
[21:08] <guntbert> Redeadhunter: they are to be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:09] <Redeadhunter> I'm using the USB method now
[21:09] <api984_> did anyone try to use SPDIF IN?
[21:09] <iceroot> !anyone | api984_
[21:09] <rsyring> Running 10.04, upgraded from 9.10, but not recently.  Have noticed update manager no longer runs periodically by itself.  How can I get that functionality back.
[21:09] <stefan1a> stefan@stefan:/etc/default$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[21:09] <stefan1a> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:10] <LAcan> rsyring, there should be an option in the gui. check it OK, close, open and recheck it
[21:10] <cypher> ąĀčāčüčüą║ąĖąĄ
[21:10] <psusi> ikonia: he isn't using mdadm at all; he is using fakeraid
[21:10] <api984_> i am having trouble with SPDIF input ? can you give me some advice for starters?
[21:10] <LAcan> stefan1a, its locked b synaptics probably
[21:10] <maco> !ru | cypher
[21:10] <psusi> sec_goat: are you dual booting with Windows?
[21:10] <LAcan> stefan1a, and you are gonna need a grub 2 editor if you are on ubuntu 10.10
[21:10] <Guest54796> ├É├ō├æ├Ŗ├ł├ģ
[21:10] <sec_goat> psusi: no i am not, strictly ubuntu server
[21:11] <rsyring> LAcan: funny, I was expecting a config file or cron entry or something, should have checked that, will do, thanks
[21:11] <LAcan> api984_, is the rest of your sound card working properly? headphone jack and speakers?
[21:11] <stefan1a> LAcan: I'm not sure what that is. How exactly can I get a grub 2 editor?
[21:11] <api984_> LAcan, yes
[21:11] <psusi> sec_goat: then I suggest you avoid fakeraid and just stick to conventional software raid... you haven't actually gotten the system up and working yet so no data on the disks yet right?  so you can reformat and reinstall no problem?
[21:11] <ikonia> psusi: he's building an mdadm raid array, I gave him instructions on how to do it
[21:11] <mack> I just successfully ran the Install.sh, and now I can't get the Launcer to work
[21:11] <wodKa``> How can I create a script to run two commands on startup? just a sudo insmod and sudo ifconfig. like where do I format the file and where to put it and stuff?
[21:11] <ikonia> mack: what is it you've installed
[21:12] <LAcan> stefan1a, just search synaptics for "grub 2" or "grub2" and it should come up as 'grub 2 editor'
[21:12] <mack> sudo ./LaunchSafester.sh
[21:12] <ikonia> mack: what are you trying to install
[21:12] <sec_goat> psusi: I suppose I could, I had a hard time doing anythign RAID related during install, freezes, not recognizing the hardare raid etc.
[21:12] <LAcan> ya wth is safester?
[21:12] <api984_> LAcan, i am trying to build the following scheme: xbox(spdif out) -> soundcard1 (spdifin) -> decode (ac3dec) -> souncard2 (5.1 channel) -> analog out
[21:12] <psusi> ikonia: he said he chose to use serial ata raid
[21:12] <stefan1a> LAcan: I don't see it
[21:12] <LAcan> api984_, thats above my pay grade, but i suspect that ubuntu is not using the correct driver
[21:12] <mack> an email encryption program for my college class
[21:13] <LAcan> stefan1a, ok wait two mins i will be back. you are on ubuntu 10.10 correct?
[21:13] <api984_> LAcan, i thought so too, still thinking about this...
[21:13] <stefan1a> LAcan: yes
[21:13] <mack> I downloaded the package and unpacked it. Just finished running the install.sh
[21:13] <psusi> sec_goat: can you run sudo dmraid -s and post the result?
[21:13] <api984_> LAcan, i'll have to do some more tests
[21:13] <ikonia> psusi: yes, and I told him how to make software raid and gave him instructions
[21:13]  * LAcan brb
[21:13] <psusi> ikonia: need to get rid of the fakeraid first
[21:14] <prakas> hiii. does rc.local execute commands in root mode by default or you need to put a sudo prefix to them?
[21:14] <ikonia> psusi: not if it didn't detect it and just used one disk, but I'll let you continue
[21:14] <prakas> i am not sure if i should prefix sudo inside rc.local
[21:14] <mack> How do I view a readme.txt file on the screen?
[21:14] <sec_goat> psusi: http://pastebin.com/4CC71Vs1
[21:14] <iceroot> mack: less readme.txt
[21:14] <salvatore_> he looooo
[21:14] <mack> thx
[21:14] <ashmew2> Apr 26 01:03:32 1337-H4xX0r kernel: [ 3732.398322] Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 125905
[21:14] <iceroot> mack: exit lesswith "q"
[21:15] <sec_goat> ikonia: I am stuck at the mdadm --create step, says there is no raid device selected?
[21:15] <salvatore_> !lista
[21:15] <ikonia> sec_goat: follow what psusi is guiding you
[21:15] <sec_goat> ikonia: sounds good i will
[21:15] <iceroot> ashmew2: as a 1337-H4xX0r you cant handle that? :)
[21:15] <LAcan> stefan1a, still here?
[21:16] <api984_> LAcan, how long do you use linux?
[21:16] <mack> It says that I can move the program's launcher to any directory, but I want to leave it there. The launcher will not run, however
[21:16] <LAcan> now im actually in ubuntu
[21:16] <LAcan> api984_, bout a week
[21:16] <api984_> LAcan, only a week experience in linux?
[21:16] <psusi> sec_goat: ok, run sudo dmraid -d to list which disks that was found on, and then sudo dmraid -E /dev/whatever for each one to erase the fake raid signatures... then you should be good to install and set up the software raid
[21:16] <ashmew2> iceroot : thats for 2020 but im getting the errors now :P Help help :P
[21:16] <prakas> let me repeat is sudo required when putting commands in rc.local file?
[21:17] <LAcan> api984_, im no expert, but sound is a known issue
[21:17] <prakas> /etc/rc.local
[21:17] <escott> prakas, no
[21:17] <prakas> escott: it runs in root mode you sure? thats what i needed
[21:17] <api984_> LAcan, i am doing a little complicated scheme
[21:17] <LAcan> stefan1a, search synaptics for "grub customizer"
[21:17] <api984_> LAcan, cheap SPDIF soundcard and thats it
[21:17] <escott> prakas, who else would it run as, nobody else is logged in
[21:18] <LAcan> api984_, no kidding
[21:18] <prakas> escott: nice ;)
[21:18] <LAcan> api984_, so this monster rig you are doing... you have it all pkugged in already...?
[21:18] <prakas> escott: do you know what command should i give to restart networking after i configure an interface in ifconfig
[21:19] <Zuzak> Is there a way to get back to the gui from an adventure with ctrl+alt+f1?
[21:19] <prakas> escott: ifconfig eth1 up doesnt seem to work
[21:19] <escott> prakas, other than ifconfig up?
[21:19] <api984_> LAcan, yes... working all day to make it work
[21:19] <stefan1a> LAcan: can't find it
[21:19] <LAcan> api984_, ok so first question: do all the other ins and outs work correctly?
[21:19] <api984_> LAcan, trying to make it work like i did in windows... similar config this is
[21:19] <Zuzak> ah, CTRL+ALT+F7
[21:20] <prakas> escott: i need to go to wireless networking gui and type the gateway address again and subnet then press ok. otherwise i cannot ping. it says no network or something
[21:20] <api984_> LAcan, as I know they should... i am doing tests right now... still searching for the headphones... module is ok and up
[21:20] <api984_> LAcan, driver seems to be fine
[21:20] <escott> prakas, i'm not sure i spend to much time fighting network manager to get it to stop touching my config. maybe configure dhclient to start on the interface?
[21:20] <LAcan> stefan1a, do you yave all the default repositories added to synaptics?
[21:21] <Asmodeus87> I'm trying  to blacklist a driver but it's still loading at startup... I've added blacklist r8192e_pci and blacklist r8192se_pci to blacklist.conf. Somehow it's working only for the second one. Any what I might be doing wrong?
[21:21] <prakas> escott: i need static address. it is set to use static
[21:21] <escott> prakas, route?
[21:21] <stefan1a> LAcan: dunno
[21:21] <sec_goat> psusi: trying the dmraid -d and it tells me i need more options:
[21:21] <sec_goat> ERROR: more options needed with -d/-v
[21:21] <prakas> escott: it works but after changing the mac address ifconfig eth1 up doesnt seem to work unless i give the gateway again manually in the gui
[21:21] <ashmew2> My System is restarting on its own , how can i find out what the culprit is ?
[21:22] <Samo502> ashmew2: i thought you figured it out earlier?
[21:22] <prakas> escott: is there any networking. restart or something. i am new to linux. heard someone say there is something like that
[21:22] <ashmew2> Samo502: no i didnt
[21:22] <ashmew2> Samo502: im going NUTS
[21:22] <mack> I ran the Install.sh for a program and now the launcher will not work.
[21:22] <ikonia> mack: what program ?
[21:23] <LAcan> stefan1a, add this to your sofwatre sources in synaptic: ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[21:23] <Jake_> hello...
[21:23] <LAcan> stefan1a, then search again, you will find it
[21:23] <psusi> sec_goat: woops, sorry, it's -r
[21:23] <Jake_> can someone please say "hello jake" so i know you can see me?
[21:23] <ashmew2> Cant see you jake :P
[21:23] <LAcan> No Jake_, I cant
[21:23] <ikonia> Jake_: we can see you fine
[21:23] <sec_goat> psusi: just got to that with man. . . it is only showing /dev/sdb: dd1 so i just -e on that guy
[21:24] <Samo502> prakas: i think doing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart may work. Last time i used it wasn't on ubuntu though
[21:24] <escott> prakas, im going to guess you need to mess with route
[21:24] <FreeMan_> ąæąŠąČąĄ, ąĖ ąĮąĖ ąŠą┤ąĮąŠą╣ čĆčāčüčüą║ąŠą╣ ą┤čāčłąĖ?
[21:24] <Samo502> prakas: that would restart the netowrking service
[21:24] <sdegutis> :D
[21:24] <mack> ikonia- it is an email encryption program for my college class. It just ran,m but says Java not found, even though the Jar file is in the same directory
[21:24] <Samo502> mack: you need to install java
[21:24] <prakas> Samo502: yes thanks. perhaps that is the command :P
[21:24] <psusi> sec_goat: it's capital -E
[21:24] <Samo502> is what it sounds like
[21:24] <ikonia> mack: what is the name of the program and where did you get it
[21:25] <mack> OK. just type ./Safester.jar"?
[21:25] <Samo502> prakas: if not that then replace it with stop and start it again
[21:25] <escott> bring the interface up, and then set the gateway and finally manually set the dns in /etc/resolve.conf to point to the gateway (or whatever dns you want to use)
[21:25] <prakas> ok
[21:25] <sec_goat> psusi: back to man, telling me I am missing/invalid option combo with -E
[21:25] <mack> It's called Safester and I got it from their FTP site
[21:25] <psusi> sec_goat: -E /dev/sdb
[21:25] <FreeMan_> #ubuntu-ru
[21:25] <mack> the program works well on Woindows, but I need to test it on Linux
[21:25] <mack> I downloaded the Linux version
[21:26] <prakas> escott: it is already set through the gui before. let me check resolve.conf then :)
[21:26] <sec_goat> psusi:  sudo dmraid -E /dev/sdb1
[21:26] <psusi> sec_goat: no 1, just sdb
[21:26] <LAcan> mack, is there a ppa you can add to synaptics? this wil be much easier for you
[21:26] <sec_goat> psusi: sorry it gives me the same message
[21:26] <escott> prakas, you probably want to disable network manager handling the device
[21:26] <Jake_> lol thanks ashmew2
[21:26] <mack> I finished the Install.sh program but I guess I need to ge the Jave installed?
[21:26] <Samo502> mack: it really sounds to me like you don't have java installed to me
[21:26] <prakas> hmmm
[21:26] <escott> it has an annoying tendency to stomp over whatever you set
[21:27] <prakas> escott: that would be better
[21:27] <mack> ppa? synaptics? I'm a beginner. This is the beginner forum, right?
[21:27] <ashmew2> Jake_ : :)
[21:27] <psusi> sec_goat: oh yea... -E -r /dev/sdb
[21:27] <sec_goat> psusi: hehe thanks!
[21:27] <Samo502> mack: synaptic or software center would likely have it, if not the java website probably does
[21:28] <sec_goat> psusi: ok that did it, back to the previosu set up of software raid I was following, or?
[21:28] <mack> Do I go to the Synaptic package installer from the menu bar and look for it?
[21:28] <Jake> i just wanted to say that ubuntu 10.10 is finally on my level of understanding. i love this os so much. i feel like a little kid again. kudos to  ubuntu.
[21:28] <Samo502> mack: i installed mine through software center i believe, but either one likely will work
[21:29] <LAcan> mack it doesnt exist i just checked
[21:29] <psusi> sec_goat: yes... though you may need to reboot and start over
[21:29] <LAcan> mack, however java is in there and u should isntall it via synaptics
[21:30] <sec_goat> psusi: rebooting now, thanks
[21:30] <LAcan> Jake, your level of understanding is called "windows" lol
[21:30] <Samo502> LAcan: is there a difference between installing via synaptics and software center?
[21:30] <LAcan> Samo502, they are the same, just different distros have different programs
[21:31] <mack> Should I install the javacc package, or install all of them?
[21:31] <Jasonn> How do I install twisted?
[21:31] <Samo502> just about every time someone says to install something they specify synaptics, so it makes me wonder
[21:31] <Jake_> im still here
[21:31]  * LAcan actually means the "Ubuntu Software Centre"
[21:31] <Jasonn> I know how to install it
[21:31] <Jasonn> like with apt
[21:31] <LAcan> Samo502, ya, i picked up that lingo in here...
[21:32] <Jasonn> but it sais that it has no installation candidate
[21:32] <mujahid>  I am having problem with Ubuntu Software Centre....It always shows empty list of softwares
[21:32] <LAcan> Jasonn, use your software installer
[21:32] <LAcan> mujahid, have you selected any repositories in the left side pane?
[21:32] <Samo502> mujahid: are your sources intact?
[21:32] <mujahid> I do not know...how to check that?
[21:33] <mack> samo, I have javacc, java-doc, java-common, javahelp2, and about 4 or 5 more java packages
[21:33] <LAcan> mujahid, start the sofwtare centre
[21:33] <LAcan> mujahid, then look in the left side pane
[21:33] <mujahid> LAcan i did
[21:33] <LAcan> mujahid, and under "get software", are there items listed?
[21:34] <Samo502> mack: you could probably go without java-doc safely if you want, possibly without javahelp2 as well. I'm not sure what java would be exactly in synaptics
[21:34] <mujahid> LAcan it shows the list of installed softwares
[21:34] <mack> OK. I'll give that a try right now. brb.
[21:34] <Samo502> but java-doc would just be documentation
[21:34] <LAcan> mujahid, there should be two sections in the left pane "get software" and "installed software". do u see "get software"?
[21:35] <mujahid> LAcan it shows the list of few softwares
[21:35] <sec_goat> psusi: I apologize, it looks like there is actually an error erasing the metadata using dmraid -E -r
[21:35] <LAcan> mujahid, there should be two sections in the left pane "get software" and "installed software". do u see "get software"?
[21:35] <mujahid> many of them are procided by ubunt.....
[21:35] <mujahid> others by canonical
[21:35] <LAcan> mujahid, just answer the question please
[21:35] <mujahid> Yes LAcan
[21:36] <LAcan> mujahid, ok, click the arrow next to "get software" so that it expands the list
[21:36] <LAcan> (the arrow will point down)
[21:36] <mujahid> i did
[21:36] <LAcan> ok, what does it say under there
[21:36] <wcchandler> Is there going to be a release candidate for 11.04?
[21:36] <mujahid> no
[21:36] <LAcan> "no"?
[21:37] <mujahid> Provided by ubuntu
[21:37] <LAcan> mujahid, there isnt an entry called "Provided by u
[21:37] <LAcan> ok great
[21:37] <mujahid> Canonical Partners
[21:37] <LAcan> mujahid, no click "get sofwtare" again
[21:37] <linuxrocks> Hi I'm wondering whether I shall add more swap? Can somebody help?
[21:37] <LAcan> so that it is highlighted
[21:37] <LAcan> muja now in the right pane is a serach window
[21:37] <LAcan> u see that?
[21:37] <guntbert> !who | mujahid
[21:37] <mujahid> yes
[21:38] <LAcan> mujahid, no search for "java"
[21:38] <LAcan> now
[21:38] <guntbert> !enter > LAcan
[21:38] <patrunjel> guys, I recently got into shell scripting, but I hate learning all the global variables, and stuff like that. Do you happen to know some links to helpful tables with like the most important global variables in linux, the linux filesistem, stuff like that? :)
[21:38] <LAcan> ubottu, OMG so many rules!
[21:38] <mdwright_laptop> Are the icons used in Ubuntu available anywhere?
i did ..developers tools ...java
[21:38] <LAcan> mdwright_laptop,  usually somehwere in /share/icons but the native ones are hard to find
[21:39] <LAcan> mujahid, ok, so it works then.
[21:39] <linuxrocks> Hi all my swap seems taken. Shall I add more?
[21:39] <LAcan> mujahid, what where you seraching for that didnt come up?
[21:39] <mdwright_laptop> LAcan: Yeah, I was hoping a pack of them would be available online somewhere =/
[21:39] <IcarianHeights> linuxrocks:you should add more ram
[21:39] <mujahid> his error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[21:39] <psusi> sec_goat: what error?
[21:39] <linuxrocks> IcarianHeights, I ordered it :-)
[21:39] <mujahid> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[21:39] <IcarianHeights> linuxrocks:sweet!
[21:39] <sec_goat> psusi: ERROR: ddf1: seeking device "/dev/sdb" to 512104901378048
[21:39] <sec_goat> ERROR: writing metadata to /dev/sdb, offset 1000204885504 sectors, size 0 bytes returned 0
[21:39] <sec_goat> ERROR: erasing ondisk metadata on /dev/sdb
[21:39] <LAcan> mujahid, try searching fo something you dont already have installed
[21:40] <Jimtrim> does anybody know of a way to get Guake to come in from the side, not from the top?
[21:40] <linuxrocks> IcarianHeights, for now I have to leave with 2GB. Could you advise whether I shall add more swap or is it normal for the swap to be fully used?
[21:40] <arand> linuxrocks: Normally, killing applications is better thatn extending swap, since whenever you start swapping, things are going to end up very slow regardless of how big it is.
[21:40] <LAcan> linuxrocks, thats normal.
I looked for game Black Jack but when i went in games it was empty
[21:41] <linuxrocks> arand: Resources show I still have 750MB of RAM, but swap if 100% full.
[21:41] <sec_goat> psusi: Sorry here is the entirety http://pastebin.com/WqzS6erW
[21:41] <LAcan> mujahid, by "in games" you mean the panel entry under "applications" in the top left of your screen?
[21:41] <halpbatman>  Hey guys After I update LTS, grub still shows old versions. How do I get rid of them?
[21:41] <LAcan> halpbatman, get grub customizer
[21:42] <psusi> sec_goat: hrm... looks like a little bug... try using the bios utility to erase it then
[21:42] <linuxrocks> halpbatman: search for linux-image on package manager and remove older versions
[21:42] <LAcan> halpbatman, or system/admin/startup manager
[21:42] <Samo502> mujahid: did you freshly install ubuntu or has this problem just appeared recently?
oh dear I am not preety new to the ubuntu but when I install any software from Software Centre it shows empty list
[21:42] <linuxrocks> LAcan, could you advise whether I need more swap? Currently it shows 90MB
[21:43] <sec_goat> psusi: erase the disk from inside the BIOS?
I am having this problem since i upgraded ubuntu
[21:43] <LAcan> mujahid, after you install stuff, it will usually show up in one of the three mens in the top left NOT in the software centre
[21:43] <arand> halpbatman: If you do not need them, the best way is porbably to use synaptic and uninstall the specific packages for the old version.
[21:43] <psusi> sec_goat: erase the raid metadata... go into the raid bios screen and delete the array
[21:43] <LAcan> linuxrocks, how much ram do u have?
[21:43] <linuxrocks> LAcan, 2GB
[21:44] <LAcan> linuxrocks, and how large is your swap partition?
when i go to left pane it only shows list of installed software and when i go to right pane it shows empty lists of all catogries
[21:44] <linuxrocks> LAcan, Resources show 90MB
[21:44] <LAcan> mujahid, NO. close the software centre
[21:44] <LAcan> mujahid, in the TOP LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN IS A MENU "APPLICATIONS"
[21:45] <Samo502> i think LAcan broke
[21:45] <sec_goat> psusi: Sorry to be dense but where do I find the raid bios? I disabled anythign hardware related to raid because i could not actually install ubuntu server on the hardware array. . . is there a way to access from ubunut cli or gui?
[21:45] <LAcan> mujahid, second option is "Games"
[21:45]  * LAcan sorry
then
[21:45] <psusi> sec_goat: turn it back on then
[21:45] <LAcan> mujahid, then look for "black jack"
not there
[21:45] <halpbatman> arand, hey so I'm using synaptic. can I erase everything that's not current version?
[21:46]  * LAcan loves Cuby. Anyone play that?
[21:46] <Rabbitbunny> So... My webcam works in Cheese, works in WebCamStudio, Works in flash websites. Does not work in skype. I only see a black screen. 10.04. Hints?
[21:46] <psusi> sec_goat: at some point you had the raid enabled and went into the  bios raid utility to create the array... do that again and this time, destroy the array... simply disabling it leaves the raid metadata on the disk
[21:46] <sec_goat> psusi: ubuntu will not boot when i turn it on it just hangs at Attempting to boot from hard disk C:   I guess I am just out of luck for the RAID solution
[21:46] <LAcan> mujahid, what games do you have listed there?
E: dkimproxy: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[21:46] <mujahid> E: dtc-toaster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:46] <sec_goat> psusi: so you think i can go in and delete the array and then turn tat utility back off again?
[21:47] <sec_goat> psusi: I will gove that a shot tonight
[21:47] <psusi> sec_goat: yes... though if you delete the array you shouldn't even have to turn it back off
[21:47]  * LAcan can I hand this off to escott? Cuz I can't help mujahid with that.
[21:47] <halpbatman> thx all
i installed these games in start....but since i have upgraded ubuntu it is having problem...in ubuntu softeare centre it shows empty lists and in sypantic that problem
[21:48] <sec_goat> psusi: thanks I will try that when I get home
[21:48] <arand> halpbatman: Yes, it is often a good idea to keep an older know working version though
its ok
[21:48] <harovali1> hi , plase help me to understand what is this error trail referring to http://pastebin.com/zS5L12F9
[21:48] <LAcan> sorry mujahid, but if your panels arent working properly, u might consider a re-install.
[21:50] <sec_goat> thanks ikonia and psusi! I will probably be back tommorow!
[21:50] <guntbert> !screenshot | LAcan, mujahid
[21:51] <swim> i'm using ubuntu 10.10 with an xfce interface..  for some reason my os won't load the panel..  does anybody know how to add a panel on xfce???
[21:52] <radicalfury> hi all
[21:52] <radicalfury> having one hell of a time installing ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop
[21:52] <radicalfury> can anyone help
[21:52] <LAcan> mujahid, did you understand the above? id like to see your screen for the error you mentioned above
[21:52] <Samo502> radicalfury: what's going wrong?
[21:52] <swim> what are you using radicalfury???  what's the specs on your desktop???
[21:52] <mujahid> yes Lacan
[21:53] <radicalfury> samo, it errors out when i try to install it through windows and when i try to install via boot it freezes
[21:53] <radicalfury> i have a error long in windows it generated i paste
[21:53] <LAcan> mujahid, ok so get the error on your screen, hit the "print screen" button on your keybord then paste it into imagebin.org and give me the URL when its done
[21:54] <Samo502> radicalfury: also like swim asked, what's the specs on your desktop?
[21:54] <radicalfury> i7
[21:54] <radicalfury> ill list all
[21:54] <radicalfury> hold on
[21:54] <Jasonn> !enter radicalfury
[21:54] <LAcan> radicalfury, not in the channel i hope
[21:54] <user82> hi. does any of you know a tag editor that supports artwork in id3?
[21:54] <Jasonn> !enter | radicalfury
[21:54] <Jasonn> radicalfury: Put the specs all in one line
[21:55] <shcherbak> !paste | radicalfury
[21:55] <Jasonn> shcherbak: Doesnt even matter if they are pastebinned, just as long as he doesnt use enter after each spec
[21:55]  * LAcan is going for a snack and some lemonade, brb.
[21:55] <radicalfury> intel i7 920 , 6gb ram , asus p6t , 1gb hd 5870 saphire,
[21:56] <Samo502> it's safe to say it's not a low spec issue then
[21:56] <abountu> I installed a fresh new version of ubuntu on my new laptop, although my cpu is intell (64bit) it keeps selecting amd 64 packages, any idea what's causing this?
[21:57] <radicalfury> 300gb sata raptor 10k rpm hdd0 / 1.5 tg segate hdd1
[21:57] <abountu> is it likely that I install the wrong version of ubuntu (amd) on an intell machine? does that work?
[21:57] <arand> abountu: amd64 has noyhing to do with the brand
[21:57] <LAcan> abountu, those are the same. amd64 is intel64
[21:58] <abountu> ok thanks (arand LAcan)
[21:58] <Samo502> radicalfury: what errors does the log show?
[21:58] <arand> abountu: intel is licensing amd's technology, hence the name has stuck.
[21:58] <radicalfury> can i pm you and paste?
[21:58] <mickster04> !pm
[21:58] <mickster04> !paste | radicalfury
[21:59] <Samo502> i'd say pastebin would be best
[21:59] <Rabbitbunny> So... My webcam works in Cheese, works in WebCamStudio, Works in flash websites. Does not work in skype. I only see a black screen. 10.04. Hints?
[21:59] <mujahid> Any one has worked on Hadoop
[21:59] <ArisVer> Hey guys/gals, i tried Ubuntu-netbook and it did not work. All i see on the screen is a purple screen and a mouse pointer.
[21:59] <mujahid> ?
[21:59] <mickster04> ArisVer: is this installed or live usb?
[21:59] <ArisVer> Installed.
[21:59] <abountu> previously, (few years back), after installing a fresh ubuntu, i used to run easylinux which gets me started automatically, later one I read a lot about easylinux causing issues,  what is the current situation, I'd like to get up and running with my new machine quickly
[22:00] <Samo502> ArisVer: how long was it like this?
[22:00] <mickster04> ArisVer: did you try it first?
[22:00] <mickster04> and did you check the image?
[22:00] <LAcan> abountu, donlwoad the 10.10 iso, burn it, put it in your drive. thats it.
[22:01] <abountu> LAcan, that is done, but now flash doesn't work, I don't have pidgin installed, just to name 2 things
[22:01] <ArisVer> mickster04, The liveusb was the same, purple screen and (maybe a mouse pointer), the installer worked though, but i am left with the same.
[22:01] <radicalfury> !pastebinit C:\Users\GOD\Desktop\wubi-10.10-rev197.log
[22:01] <mujahid> Hadoop
[22:01] <KNUBBIG> hey, my microphone on my Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty isn't working (I got the open source drivers from Creative installed), it either repeats what I'm hearing in teamspeak or nothing. Any ideas?
[22:01] <LAcan> abountu, which browser are u using?
[22:01] <radicalfury> it didnt pastebinit
[22:01] <mickster04> ArisVer: what laptop?
[22:02] <radicalfury> 04-25 16:24 ERROR  root: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[22:02] <abountu> LAcan, ideally I use chrome, but I tried it in Firefox as well and didn't work
[22:02] <LAcan> KNUBBIG, take it up with teamspeak, because if its repeating your mic is in fact working
[22:02] <mickster04> ArisVer: did you check /w compatibilty and did you md5 the disk?
[22:02] <LAcan> abountu, give me a sample page with flash that doesnt work
[22:02] <mickster04> radicalfury: just use old school pastebin
[22:02] <mack> OK> This sang .sh program ewill not run, even after I typed chmod +x filename
[22:02] <mujahid> Has anyone worked on Net Beans?
[22:02] <ArisVer> mickster04, I did not md5 , maybe the iso was wrong.
[22:02] <radicalfury> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598942/
[22:02] <LAcan> mack "./script.sh"
[22:02] <mickster04> ArisVer: that's what i'm thinking
[22:03] <mack> LA, tried that, too
[22:03] <KNUBBIG> LAcan, no, it just takes the sound what I hear and replays it, not anything I say into the mic
[22:03] <ArisVer> mickster04, The laptop is old, but runned 10.10 without problems.
[22:03] <KNUBBIG> LAcan, not only in Teamspeak but everywhere
[22:03] <LAcan> KNUBBIG, how does a mic "play sound"?
[22:03] <KNUBBIG> LAcan, the others hear what I'm hearing through my headset
[22:03] <abountu> LAcan, videos on facebook, youtube, and other local tv stations (but this may be some other video plugins -> which goes back to my easylinux up-and-runing with codecs and plugins etc)
[22:03] <LAcan> KNUBBIG, ah ok
[22:03] <radicalfury> i hate windows 7
[22:03] <mack> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net.safester.application.MessageComposer
[22:03] <mujahid> Any one who is expert in Java?
[22:04] <LAcan> abountu, so the ubuntu u have now, that doesnt work for flah, u installed with easylinux?
[22:04] <mack> LA, just downloaded and installed Java, and now that appeared
[22:04] <mickster04> !java
[22:04] <KNUBBIG> mujahid, I'm fairly good at it
[22:04] <_silentAssassin> how can i install python2.5 -minimal in natty ? !! when i try to do that it asks me to remove whole lot of apps ... amost everything
[22:04] <abountu> LAcan, no no, I just burned the iso from ubuntu and install it, and than downloaded chrome and istalled it
 Have u worked on Net Beans?
[22:05] <LAcan> abountu, what about the firefox that ships with ubuntu, 3.6, does it work?
[22:05] <mickster04> !natty
[22:05] <abountu> LAcan, no,
[22:05] <KNUBBIG> mujahid, no I despise it because of the ugly unreadable code it creates, sorry
[22:05] <_silentAssassin> ok .. thanks !! i'll try there
[22:05] <LAcan> abountu, dont know the fix, mine worked out of the box. wait. what kind of video card do you have?
[22:06] <Samo502> radicalfury's error log:http://paste.ubuntu.com/598942/
[22:06] <Samo502> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598942/
 its ok...but I am using ontology with Bayesian network ...I am using NeticaJ library for Bayesian network but I am not able to understand how i step further
[22:06] <abountu> LAcan, it says Intel HD Graphics
[22:06] <mack> LA, that tinyurl is for ver 10+. I have 9.1
[22:07] <Samo502> !pm | radicalfury
[22:07] <LAcan> abountu, and whats actually in the computer?
[22:07] <Wolf> heh
[22:07] <mack> Acer laptop, 64-bit
[22:08] <radicalfury> samo502 does it look like my cd is bad? should i burn anyother copy and try again?
[22:09] <radicalfury> i se IOerrors in the log
[22:09] <abountu> LAcan:  Intel GMA HD graphics
[22:10] <nishttal2> how do i force apt-get to rebuild its installed packages list?
[22:10] <nishttal2> on my system
[22:10] <Samo502> it said that it was a valid CD in the log
[22:10] <Samo502> towards the end it says it couldn't download a metalink
[22:11] <Samo502> and a lot of .py scripts had errors
[22:11] <POOPHAMMER> well i got ubuntu to install finally!
[22:11] <mack> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net.safester.application.MessageComposer
[22:11] <POOPHAMMER> its just a terminal though :|
[22:12] <mack> Just got this error...
[22:12] <POOPHAMMER> how do i get it to a gui desktop?
[22:12] <Samo502> POOPHAMMER: did you enter the commands the minimal desktop said to enter?
[22:12] <radicalfury> startx
[22:12] <nishttal2> anyone?
[22:13] <nishttal2> my apt-get installed package list seems to be out of sync
[22:13] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: what do you mean by that? what error do you get?
[22:13] <LAcan> nishttal2, use the software centre and avoid those problems in the future
[22:13] <POOPHAMMER2> ok that was odd
[22:13] <mack> I need to get this stupid program installed and running by tonight. Project is due tomorrow night and I have to send the install results to the team leader tonight so he can finish the complete document we are turning-in
[22:13] <POOPHAMMER2> the gui popped up in the middle of the terminal
[22:13] <POOPHAMMER2> LOL
[22:13] <Samo502> O_o
[22:14] <radicalfury> poophammer2: try startx
[22:14] <LAcan> mack, and it has to be encrypted?
[22:14] <POOPHAMMER2> so it looks like my desktop is finally done
[22:14] <mack> yup
[22:14] <radicalfury> nice
[22:14] <joeix> I've found that the sound output to my speakers is very quiet and I need to turn the volume all the way up in order to get it to a reasonable level for listening.  However when I use windows the sound is much louder even when I have the volume turned quite low.  Why would this happen?
[22:14] <mack> THis is the error I got after I downloadd and installed Java:
[22:14] <POOPHAMMER2> i finally have a dual boot win7 and ubuntu and i am very happy
[22:14] <LAcan> mack, sounds like your team leader is a dick.
[22:14] <mack> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net.safester.application.MessageComposer
[22:14] <radicalfury> samo any idea what to try next
[22:14] <POOPHAMMER2> now to exit irssi and go on with this fun stuff
[22:14] <POOPHAMMER2> and make this terminal less ugly
[22:14] <LAcan> mack, and u cant do this on windows?
[22:15] <nishttal2> LAcan, this is a server.. i dont have access to the software center
[22:15] <etyrnal> anyone know, why on my home network, if i ping 255.255.255.255 all my Mac computers respond, but NONE of my Ubuntu machines do?  What can i do to make my Ubuntu machines echo?
[22:15] <mack> How do I PM somebody in this chat room?
[22:15] <Samo502> LAcan: he said the windows one works fine
[22:15] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, look at http://fpaste.org/uDbS/
[22:15] <abountu> LAcan: any ideas?
[22:15] <LAcan> mack, so why not just use the damn windows version???
[22:15] <Network_Girl> What is the command for   sudo apt-get update Xubuntu     and  the command?
[22:15] <mack> NO. We needed a cross-platform solution. The Windows testing went just fine. I'm doing the Linux portion
[22:15] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, its saying mysqld_safe is part of a package (suggesting i install it)
[22:15] <mickster04> nishttal2: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:15] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, but when i try to its saying you already have it installed
[22:16] <Jasonn> Network_Girl: Its to update Xubuntu
[22:16] <LAcan> abountu, i lost track, where were we? flash no wor.. right.. what video card is actually inthe computer?
[22:16] <planet8> I need to run some 64 bit cpu benchmark with an ubuntu live cd. What tool can I use?
[22:16] <Network_Girl> Yes.
[22:16] <Samo502> radicalfury: i don't really know what's going on there, but for some reason a bunch of scripts are encountering errors
[22:16] <Jasonn> Network_Girl: So what is your question?
[22:16] <abountu> LAcan:  Intel GMA HD graphics
[22:17] <Samo502> radicalfury: anyway, i'm starving so i'm gonna take a break and eat something
[22:17] <Network_Girl> I would like to update for anything that is required for my new installation.
[22:17] <poptran> hello why my ubuntu 10.10 is getting so slow? I've installed the right nvidia driver but after working fine starts getting sloww. CPU process is 100% and always with X or chromium
[22:17] <LAcan> abountu, ok, and when you it doesnt work, can u be more specific? black screen? broswer crash, hangs...?
[22:17] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.1'
[22:17] <mack> How do I PM somebody in this chat room?
[22:17] <Jasonn> Network_Girl: You have xubuntu installed and you want to update it?
[22:18] <Jasonn> mack: Yes
[22:18] <LAcan> mack, /msg <name> but thats not advised
[22:18] <Jasonn> mack: /query NICKNAME
[22:18] <Network_Girl> Yes.
[22:18] <abountu> it says (something along the lines) "no flash installed, install flash to watch video"
[22:18] <Jasonn> !pm | mack
[22:18] <Network_Girl> I am new to Xubuntu
[22:18] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: the error doesn't come from your apt-get data being out of sync, the message comes from the 'command-not-found' utility
[22:18] <Jasonn> Network_Girl: SO what do you want to do?
[22:18] <mack> K
[22:18] <LAcan> abountu, so you are missing the plug in basically.
[22:18] <mack> It's just scrolling up so fast...
[22:18] <abountu> LAcan:  it says (something along the lines) "no flash installed, install flash to watch video"
[22:19] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, no luck http://fpaste.org/R2Ig/
[22:19] <Network_Girl> I would like to install x11vnc and I tried to apt-get it. It says it no longer exists.
[22:19] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, i see
[22:19] <LAcan> abountu, and is there a clickable link in chrome to install flash? usually chrome will drop a bar down that says "this site needs plugin..." from the top
[22:19] <radicalfury> what is the checksum md5 for the i386 version of 10.10?
[22:19] <mack> Does anyone have a reason why I am getting this error? I downloaded and installed Java and tried to run the program that needed java and got this message:
[22:19] <mack> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net.safester.application.MessageComposer
[22:19] <LAcan> mack, USE THE WINDOWS VERSION OF YOUR BULLSHIT ENCYPTION APP.
[22:19] <LAcan> jesus
[22:20] <abountu> LAcan: and then things get a bit complicated when I try to install flash as there is not a 64bit version for ubuntu 10.10, and I follow links to a tarbal ball that contains a .so file
[22:20] <mack> I need screenshots to submit. i wish it was taht easy
[22:20] <Jasonn> mack: Check PM
[22:20] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: hmm, your /etc/mysql directory doesn't seem to exist, did you delete it?
[22:20] <mack> How?
[22:20] <rhizmoe> hmm...rebooted and now no sound
[22:20] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, yes i did
[22:20] <mack> I see it
[22:21] <planet8> No cpu benchmarking tools for ubuntu?
[22:21] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, thinking a new install would/should recreate it
[22:21] <LAcan> abountu, you dont need a 64 bit version (ie. your broswer is not likely a 64bit version either). have you tried following those links all the way to installation?
[22:21] <mickster04> !md5 | radicalfury:
[22:21] <LAcan> planet8, start the softawre centre and search for "benchmark"
[22:21] <central> Hi, i have a HP desket D2660... Ive donwloaded the lastest hplip fron its website... the printer prints, but It doesnt put any ink to the paper...
[22:21] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, but after this install i see that the directory is there.. with a debian.cnf file in it..
[22:21] <Kevin147> Does anyone know of a program that is for business? Like, a program to run items up?
[22:21] <Souperman> abountu, just sudo apt-get update     and then sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:22] <LAcan> Kevin147, calculator
[22:22] <Jasonn> Network_Girl: Sorry, you are not making any sense, what version of what OS do you have on your comp, and what are you trying to do?
[22:22] <ohzie> Kevin147: Point of sale?
[22:22] <radicalfury> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598942/    Please help
[22:22] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: you need to install the correct packages for that. never delete a system directory.... and never work as root. because these things happen if you do that...
[22:22] <Kevin147> like items in a store
[22:22] <abountu> LAcan: I followed the links to get finally a tarbal with an .so file which I dont' know what to do about
[22:22] <abountu> Souperman: thanks I'll try that
[22:22] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, i started working as root in frustration.. tried for an hour as regular user
[22:23] <LAcan> ohzie, are u the guy who wrote uhm... shortURL thingy?
[22:23] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, now the /etc/mysql folder is there should i try installing again?
[22:23] <Network_Girl> What is the command to find my version?
[22:23] <erUSUL> !version | Network_Girl
[22:23] <Ampelbein> nishttal2: no, it wouldn't help. you need probably to reinstall the -common data packages
[22:24] <ohzie> Kevin147: Yes, then, point of sale. There are a variety of programs for linux and POS. Even a few distrobutions for it. I've not used any of them though.
[22:24] <ohzie> LAcan: No, why?
[22:24] <LAcan> ohzie, oh maybe i have u confused... write any wordpress plugins?
[22:24] <ohzie> LAcan: Nope.
[22:25] <Network_Girl> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[22:25] <Network_Girl> Release:	9.10
[22:25] <Network_Girl> Codename:	karmic
[22:28] <radicalfury> im never gonna run this huh
[22:28] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, this is looking like a complete ubuntu re-install :(
[22:28] <nishttal2> Ampelbein, thanks for your help
[22:29] <user234234> d
[22:31] <harovali1> what's the differences between ubuntu 10.04-2 LTS and ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[22:32] <ikonia> harovali1: updates in the installer
[22:32]  * LAcan anyone play Catan? Wanna have a match?
[22:32] <mickster04> !ot | LAcan
[22:32] <LAcan> mickster04, ya but I only wana play it with ubuntu users!
[22:34] <mickster04> LAcan: well ask in offtopic
[22:38] <Macer> 2 hrs of resilvering to go.. blah
[22:41]  * lemon24 shrugs
[22:41] <wjd86> I've been trying to get Fallout3 to work... i finally got it to run but now right after the into video after i start a new game, it crashes with this error http://pastebin.com/F5NZwiPF
[22:42] <wjd86> is it a direct x issue?
[22:42] <ikonia> wjd86: talk to the guys in #winehq
[22:42] <wjd86> ah ok thanks
[22:42] <thopiekar> hi.. there seem to be something wrong with the launchpad builders.. this build-log says kdelibs5-dev is installed but cmake fails while FindNepomuk.cmake isn't available, but http://ns2.canonical.com/de/natty/i386/kdelibs5-dev/filelist says that it is part of that package..
[22:43] <thopiekar> building it on my home pc works..
[22:43] <mat789> why is ubuntu considered the best distro?
[22:43] <thopiekar> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70379053/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.plasma-mobile_0.0-1~git20110425%2Btablet-ppa0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:43] <Frogging101> What IRC client do people here use?
[22:43] <mdwright_laptop> what's the default icon set in 10.10?
[22:43] <hypetech> Frogging101: irssi
[22:43] <phibxr> Frogging101, xchat.
[22:43] <mickster04> !best
[22:43] <thopiekar> Frogging101: Quassel
[22:44] <Frogging101> Hmm... Thanks
[22:44] <mat789> Frogging101: chatzilla, a firefox addon
[22:45] <mat789> ubottu:sorry if you thought i was polling
[22:48] <atoi> Can anyone point me to a repo with a modern version of Redis for Ubuntu Lucid?
[22:48] <Macer> wtf
[22:48] <Shaba1> does anyone have a suggestion on and easy to learn irc client for ubuntu
[22:49] <Shaba1> I am a windows user and use to mIRC
[22:49] <ikonia> easy to learn ?
[22:49] <Macer> these guides to make a bootable thumb drive are retarded
[22:49] <ikonia> Macer: easy on the language please
[22:49] <Macer> heh... need to update the bios
[22:49] <Macer> but dont have a floppy drive or floppy
[22:50] <Macer> i bought the mboard in 2007.. figured this method was phased out by then
[22:50] <Shaba1> I finally gave up on one that I was reading for backtrack-linux Mac_Weber
[22:50] <Shaba1> I need to go back to it though.
[22:50] <ikonia> Macer: is there a reason you're telling the channel this ?
[22:51] <Oday> is there a channel here that discusses open source? the culture? copyleft..these things?
[22:52] <Oday> creative commons maybe?
[22:52] <Macer> need to update the bios so i can move my raid to jbod and use full ubuntu zfs only
[22:52] <Macer> ;)
[22:52] <phibxr> Oday, you should start #opencultureleftcommons before it's to late!
[22:52] <Oday> lol
[22:52] <phibxr> Oday, and trademark the name.
[22:52] <Oday> there should be
[22:53] <ikonia> Macer: again any reason you are randomly telling us this ?
[22:53] <Oday> since it isn't really a jungle
[22:53] <shcherbak> Oday: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=open+source
[22:54] <Oday> thanks
[22:54] <LAcan> anyone get wolfenstein working on an nvidia
[22:55] <atoi> Ugh.
[22:55] <Aoyste> i had it working on an nvidia
[22:55] <Aoyste> but i didn't have to do anything really
[22:55] <atoi> Honestly, having Redis so out of date on Lucid is just unforgivable.
[22:56] <LAcan> Aoyste, ah ok, cuz it just CTD's for me
[22:56] <Macer> ikonia: to bug you.
[22:56] <Macer> i suppose?
[22:56] <ikonia> Macer: please don't then
[22:56] <tomekh> hi. i have two sound notificators. first is in indicator, second in notofication area. which one should I delete? I know I can do "apt-get remove indicator-sound", bot should I?
[22:56] <Macer> uhm. ok.
[22:56] <mcurran> I'm trying to compile a package that is a nightly build from last night, but the timezone is different, so configure is complaining about future times
[22:57] <mcurran> Do I really need to change my system time to get it to work?
[22:57] <ikonia> mcurran: that's nothing to do with time zone
[22:57] <mcurran> well what is it
[22:57] <ikonia> mcurran: that's your local clock drift
[22:57] <mcurran> ?
[22:57] <mcurran> Is there an ignore option in configure?
[22:57] <ikonia> mcurran: (not fact, but I'd put money on it)
[22:57] <mcurran> yeah, sounds right
[22:57] <Aoyste> LAcan: weird, do you have the card drivers all up to date?
[22:57] <mcurran> I was just guessing
[22:57] <ikonia> mcurran: change the time on the files by touching it
[22:58] <mcurran> so should I just chown the whole directory?
[22:58] <ikonia> mcurran: just "touch" would do, but chmod, chown, whatever you want
[22:59] <mcurran> nice, thank you
[22:59] <LAcan> Aoyste, yeppers... is there a config program or some switches I can use?
[23:01] <tbruff13_> ok I need some help it is not exactly related to ubuntu but here goes I need help porting rockbox to a coby device and I am looking for a C programmer to help me
[23:01] <Aoyste> LAcan: i really don't know. also, i used to have wolfenstein on the 10.04, and it would run smooth
[23:02] <TopRamen> hmmm
[23:02] <TopRamen> anyways
[23:02] <LAcan> Aoyste, does it have campign mode? cuz im not interested in getting depar
[23:02] <Aoyste> LAcan: it does
[23:02] <canllaith> Hello LAcan
[23:02] <hypetech> If I install the natty beta, will I have to do anything special on the 28th for it to upgrade to release, or will it just do it normally through apt?
[23:02] <ikonia> !11.04  hypetech
[23:02] <mickster04> hypetech: it'll auto update
[23:02] <ikonia> !11.04 | hypetech
[23:03] <LAcan> hey canllaith !
[23:03] <hypetech> ty
[23:03] <tuzlo> what is the default FTPD for Ubuntu?
[23:03] <tuzlo> !ftpd
[23:04] <tuzlo> I need to install an ftpd will it use the usernames/passwprds already set up or will I have to set one up like Samba?
[23:05] <vectory> hi, how can i turn off mousebutton 3 emulation?
[23:05] <LAcan> tuzlo, u can use either the OS user table or create your own seperate user table i believe
[23:06] <tuzlo> LAcan, which ftpd should I use? this is only for my use for uploading website files from a local machine
[23:06] <POOPHAMMER> so is there a way to make the GUI desktop open up?
[23:06] <POOPHAMMER> i just installed and i get a basic login terminal
[23:06] <ikonia> POOPHAMMER: it will start by default on the desktop install
[23:07] <mickster04> POOPHAMMER: something went wronmg with the install
[23:07] <mickster04> !md5 | POOPHAMMER
[23:07] <ikonia> mickster04: not really, could be many reasons
[23:08] <LAcan> tuzlo, i dont know, they are all the same pretty much. try one and if u like it, keep it, if not try another
[23:08] <POOPHAMMER2> oh ok i see lol
[23:08] <POOPHAMMER2> so i just login and wait?
[23:08] <brontosaurusrex> tuzlo, pure-ftpd is what i use
[23:08] <Pici> POOPHAMMER2:Weren't you asking about the minimal install earlier? Is that what you installed?
[23:08] <POOPHAMMER2> well i used the network install to install ubuntu
[23:08] <POOPHAMMER2> from the minimal cd
[23:08] <POOPHAMMER2> the normal images would not work at all for me
[23:09] <ikonia> POOPHAMMER: did you install the destkop package ?
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> yeah i did
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> it just takes a while to load it i guess
[23:09] <ikonia> POOPHAMMER: which one ?
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> ubuntu desktop
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> its loaded now
[23:09] <ikonia> oh
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> it was just at a terminal for a minute or two i guess while loading
[23:09] <RoC_MasterMind> Has anyone been able to successfully install to an iSCSI target and then boot off it?  Even when I put /boot on the local hard drive, it gives an error within the first 2 seconds of booting....
[23:09] <ikonia> shouldn't be that slow
[23:09] <POOPHAMMER2> would there be a way to speed it up?
[23:10] <Guest90552> is there anyway to shutdown ubuntu at the end of a script? for example i wrote a script for launching tsclient and automatically connecting to a windows server when the computer starts. when i log off the windows server  i want my linux machine to shut down.
[23:10] <syn-ack> Quite a few, but what's concerning me is what's hanging poopHAMMER
[23:10] <Guest90552> i am trying to use this script  but no luck on using sudo sbin halt :  !/bin/bash tsclient -x /home/nestor/.tsclient/rdesktop.rdp sudo /sbin/halt
[23:10] <POOPHAMMER2> eh not important, ubuntu works and anything i install works
[23:11] <POOPHAMMER2> worth the extra wait at start plus i know how to amuse myself with a terminal :P
[23:11] <POOPHAMMER2> i gotta go out to dinner anywho, we can discuss this at a later dater
[23:11] <syn-ack> POOPHAMMER2, I would install boot chart and see what's hanging the init process
[23:11] <LAcan> POOPHAMMER, too bad u dont know if your DVD drive works properly. *cough*
[23:11] <POOPHAMMER2> i look forward to future chats with you all
[23:11] <realjoe> hi, I need to use wicd for a wired 802.1x ttls connection, I have the certificate and a template from the network owners, what do I need to type into wired-settings.conf to automatically use these settings?
[23:11] <syn-ack> s/init/upstartd/you know what I meant.
[23:12] <getafix28-08> hellow
[23:12] <mack> I downloaded a tar, unpacked and installed it, and installed Java. The program I installed is giving me Java errors:
[23:12] <getafix28-08> anyone can help?
[23:12] <mack> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net.safester.application.MessageComposer
[23:12] <mack>    at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.10)
[23:12] <mack>    at net.safester.application.Safester.main(Unknown Source)
[23:12] <mack> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: javax.swing.GroupLayout not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/local/src/Safester/Safester.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}
[23:12] <mack>    at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.10)
[23:12] <FloodBot1> mack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <vectory> mack: what kind of jrt did u install?
[23:13] <vectory> from oracle?
[23:13] <mack> Vec: Will look at the synaptics menu and see
[23:14] <ikonia> mack: what are you trying to install ?
[23:14] <Phong_> i love quiet PC...i'm running built in graphic ...1 SSD and low power PS  250Watt max, i cut out the PS fan...work like a charm run at 99.99999999% quiet
[23:14] <ChrisGagnon> Guest90552: you are looking for the 'shutdown' command
[23:14] <lwizardl> does anyone now what application can extract aes256 files if you know the password for it ?
[23:15] <mack> javacc 4.0
[23:15] <tuzlo> ok so how do I change ownership of a Dir so that user can deposit files into the /var/www/
[23:15] <ikonia> mack: I don't think that's packaged up yet for ubuntu
[23:15] <mack> Ikonia: its an email encryption program that I need for my college class. It is installed, but won't run now
[23:15] <user82> Phong_, boot time with ssd?
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[23:16] <maco> POOP_HARDER: stop
[23:16] <Phong_> user82, yes boot with SSD
[23:16] <POOP_HARDER> Stop what?
[23:16] <user82> Phong_, how long does it take press the button->gnome panel ready
[23:16] <maco> POOP_HARDER: putting in gibberish characters
[23:16] <ikonia> mack: is there are reason you're not using java from the ubuntu repo ?
[23:16] <eightdot> does someone here know how i can prevent cream fom merging its processes on startup ?
[23:16] <mack> ikonia: I got it right off the synaptic menu
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[23:17] <ikonia> mack: didn't you just say you did a tar
[23:17] <pfifo_> is the recovery mode supposed to ask for a password before going to a root shell? i just got right in and thats a bit scary.
[23:18] <mack> yes, but I unpacked it and successfully ran the install. the program will run, but bombs because of a Java erroe
[23:18] <Acid190> POOP_HARDER:lol
[23:18] <ikonia> mack: so is the tar file the program or the java package ?
[23:19] <mack> ik: it was the actual program. I tried to run the program first, and it said I needed Java, so I downloaded Java and installed it, too
[23:19] <carlo7> how do I set to which compiler g++ is pointing?
[23:19] <ikonia> carlo7: g++ -v
[23:19] <carlo7> ikonia, should i put the output here?
[23:19] <ikonia> mack: ok so you need to contact the people who make the package (or read on their documentation) what jvm's it's compatible with and any specific enviornment variables it needs
[23:19] <ikonia> carlo7: no, that command will tell you what version you're using
[23:19] <Phong_> user82, everything is quick
[23:19] <Phong_> user82, very fast
[23:20] <Phong_> user82, i also do some oc
[23:20] <mack> k
[23:20] <Phong_> boost up to .5 mhz
[23:20] <Phong_> i meant .5Ghz
[23:20] <Phong_> user82, run cpu ratio at 235
[23:20] <Pici> !enter
[23:20] <user82> yes sure...i believe hdd is one of the readsons for slow systems (not moar ram moar cpu like all people want to have)
[23:20] <carlo7> ikonia, problem is that: which g++ gives /usr/local/cuda/bin/g++
[23:20] <pfifo_> also recovery mode had mounted / as rw making it impossible to perform a fsck
[23:20] <ikonia> carlo7: where did I say do "which g++"
[23:21] <user82> Phong_, 5ghz? for your cpu?
[23:21] <mack> OK. Thanks, ik. It says I need java ver6. I have 4. Will go download it and see what happens. thanks
[23:21] <redhunters> heya all
[23:22] <carlo7> ikonia, nowhere,  g++ -v shows that 4.4.5 is the version
[23:22] <carlo7> but i think this is not the version i should use
[23:22] <redhunters> im having a problem is anyone up to help someone new in thing guys?
[23:22] <Phong_> user82, oc extra 0.5GHz
[23:22] <mickster04> !details
[23:22] <ikonia> carlo7: that is the version you are using that
[23:22] <Acid190> user82: I agree; always waiting for the hdd
[23:22] <ikonia> carlo7: if it's the version you should use or not is a different matter, but that is the version you are setup to use
[23:23] <user82> ah okay...my cpu is oc from 2.5ghz to 4ghz but its a cheap one plus it runs within its max temp...
[23:23] <carlo7> ikonia, ok, thats fine. and how do i tell the system that if i call "g++" in a terminal it should call this version?
[23:23] <carlo7> but right now it is calling one from CUDA
[23:23] <ikonia> carlo7: it is already calling that version
[23:24] <ikonia> gc++ -v goes to the default version - which is the one you are using
[23:24] <user82> Acid190, i got around 1m10s boot time..half of it is bios. next computer gets a faster motherboard+ssd hoep to get 30sec
[23:24] <carlo7> ikonia, ok, but why does "which g++" show the cuda path?
[23:25] <ikonia> carlo7: that's the one your running
[23:27] <Souperman> should i install compiz?
[23:27] <carlo7> ok
[23:27] <Acid190> user82:maybe check the seagate constellation before you get your ssd? 10,000rpm.
[23:27] <ikonia> Souperman: it's already installed by default
[23:28] <user82> Acid190, not yet...old system hast to do its job for one or tow more years
[23:29] <Souperman> no, not really i dont have any of the blingbling stuff like the cube or water drops
[23:29] <redhunters> im trying to test my  network  security  but im having a problem with the airodump command, is keep saying mon0 fixed channel -1
[23:29] <ikonia> Souperman: it's already installed by default
[23:29] <ikonia> !ccsm | Souperman
[23:30] <redhunters> can anyone help me about that
[23:30] <redhunters> ?
[23:31] <ikonia> redhunters: that suggests your card won't support mult-channel scanning
[23:31] <ian_> heu ubuntu users know the command lint to install firefox 4.0?
[23:31] <ikonia> ian_: I strongly advise you not to , it's not an official package for uubntu
[23:31] <mickster04> !ff4
[23:31] <ikonia> ubuntu
[23:31] <redhunters> not really its just a problem with the kernel just im not too good to patch it i need a lil more help, someone ti guide me
[23:32] <ikonia> redhunters: why do you think it's a problem with the kenrel ?
[23:32] <redhunters> the problems are the drivers
[23:32] <redhunters> i need to patch them
[23:32] <ian_> k thanks guys
[23:32] <ikonia> why do you think that ?
[23:33] <redhunters> many ppl have the same problem you can see it at google and there are some steps to fix it just im confuse i think i do all good but seems not work for me but for others it do
[23:33] <ikonia> redhunters: I would VERY strongly advise you not to patch your kernel
[23:33] <cba123> Is there any Linux software that will allow me to author and burn Blu-Ray discs?  K3b detected that I put a blank Blu-Ray in, but I can't seem to author them.  Any suggestions?
[23:33] <redhunters> i have done it like 5 times lol
[23:33] <redhunters> dont worry i have 3 laps i need to fix this
[23:33] <ikonia> redhunters: then why are you asking what to do
[23:34] <ian_> do you guys have problems using ubuntu on a 64 bit system?
[23:34] <ikonia> ian_: not at all
[23:34] <mickster04> ikonia: nope
[23:34] <mickster04> ian_: nope*
[23:35] <ian_> kk
[23:35] <redhunters> someone of you guys use aircrack in ubuntu 10.10?
[23:35] <ian_> back with 8.04 there was major bugs, seems its ok for now
[23:35] <ikonia> redhunters: if you know what to do as you've done it 5 times, why are you asking what to do ?
[23:36] <shcherbak> redhunters: Are you using airmon-ng, or setting mode manually?
[23:37] <redhunters> cuz idk if im doing it good bro, it seems to work for others but i think im doing something wrong i have run trough the steps like 5 times but not etting it work yet :(
[23:37] <ikonia> redhunters: you said you've done it 5 times before, so you should know what you are doing
[23:37] <ikonia> redhunters: are you running "wep" on your wirless network ?
[23:38] <C_Okie|Study> hi
[23:38] <Acid190> ikonia: accure to you that he might not have his own network?
[23:38] <ikonia> Acid190: no, not when he said he wants to test his own network
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> hi C_Okie|Study
[23:39] <C_Okie|Study> I can access one drive on ubuntu but not on win. On win it says it hads 0/0 and 0/0 used and free space as if it is unformatted? Could it not be pointing at the logical drive right?
[23:39] <C_Okie|Study> Hi ActionaParsnip
[23:40] <redhunters> its mine and its simple guys , i have did it b4 im just trying get work the aircrack in ubuntu 10.10 its all
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> C_Okie|Study: what filesystem is the partition you want to access?
[23:40] <MuNKyN1Nj4> anyone know how to disable indexing on certain directories in Unity?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> MuNKyN1Nj4: which release
[23:41] <ikonia> redhunters: do exactly what you did on BT4
[23:41] <C_Okie|Study> a ntfs
[23:41] <ian_> im still new to irc so i have a question: is this room the bigger of IRC?
[23:41] <MuNKyN1Nj4> ActionParsnip: the one included in 11.04
[23:41] <pcpower> it's pretty big
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> ian_: why is that relevant?
[23:41] <tiko> Hi guys! I am running ubuntu 10.10 and have a big problem with my OS
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> MuNKyN1Nj4: natty is not supported here until release day, ask in #ubunt+1
[23:42] <tiko> no internet access
[23:42] <tiko> whether its cable or wlan
[23:42] <ian_> im lokking for the biggest room of IRC
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ian_: i think you are missing the point of the channels
[23:42] <pcpower> ian_: why?
[23:42] <tiko> some weeks before i was mixing with gconf-editor
[23:42] <C_Okie|Study> ActionParsnip any idea?
[23:42] <redhunters> ikonia: i nee dhelp to do the steps patching the kernel thats all command not the probs  but thx  for trying help bro
[23:42] <MuNKyN1Nj4> ActionParsnip: 3.8.10
[23:42] <tiko> how can i fix this issue?
[23:42] <MuNKyN1Nj4> ah okay, thanks.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> MuNKyN1Nj4: your release isn't supported here until 28th April
[23:42] <ian_> what point?
[23:43] <ikonia> redhunters: follow the step sames you did in backtrack
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ian_: they are to discuss the topic of the channel
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ian_: so, why is population relevant to anything?
[23:43] <ian_> relevant in general
[23:43] <ian_> like a public room chat etc
[23:43] <tiko> no one?
[23:44] <redhunters> i didnt used bt i mean (b4) before lol  i used wifiway 2.0 it work fine just the aircrack on ubuntu 10.10 is bug when u try do airreplay
[23:44] <mickster04> tiko: ifnconfig in terminal?
[23:44] <pcpower> ian_: why do you want to know the biggest room?
[23:44] <mickster04> !ot
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ian_: http://tnerd.com/2009/03/01/top-10-freenode-channels-offering-real-time-help-on-open-source-technologies/
[23:44] <tiko> everything iz zero
[23:44] <tiko> in ifconfig
[23:44] <mickster04> tiko: past eit here
[23:44] <mickster04> !paste
[23:44] <C_Okie|Study> ActionParsnip..
[23:44] <ikonia> redhunters: ok - so I would advise you very strongly not to try to patch the kernel
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> ian_: it has no bearing on anything at all, for example if the fedora channels are busier, they will not help if you have a question regarding xpud
[23:45] <redhunters> ok ty ;)
[23:45] <ian_> so this is only on unix systems?
[23:45] <tiko> I'm sitting on another comp Mickster
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> C_Okie|Study: if it is NTFS then it should be readable by windows, I suggest you chkdsk it to check it is helthy
[23:45] <ian_> not on mac or windows?
[23:45] <tiko> everything is zero
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ian_: no there are windows channels too and mac
[23:45] <tiko> when i boot into ubuntu i don't get the prompt to unlock the default keyring for network
[23:45] <ian_> so im looking for them
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ian_: these are subjects for #freenode  this is ubuntu support only
[23:45] <ikonia> ian_: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, if you want help with irc #freenode is the channel to use
[23:45] <C_Okie|Study> ok
[23:46] <redhunters> is there anyone running aircrack in ubuntu 10.10?
[23:46] <ian_> ikonia: ok thanks
[23:46] <ikonia> redhunters: I would strongly suggest you use a distro setup for security testing, rather than patch the ubuntu kernel
[23:46] <tiko> how to recover the options for default keyring prompt
[23:46] <tiko> `?
[23:47] <codex84> yea use backtrack
[23:47] <codex84> for aircrack
[23:47] <redhunters> i dont have backtrack i couldnt mount it but  i just wanted to fix this prob tha many ppl have
[23:48] <ikonia> redhunters: you don't mount it - you install it, the same as ubuntu
[23:48] <codex84> lol
[23:48] <codex84> yea
[23:48] <redhunters> i  have wifi way i mount it on a usb
[23:48] <ikonia> redhunters: I'd suggest you use a distro setup for security testing as patching the ubuntu kernel will void your supportability and probably break other things, more so if you won't know what you're doing
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: +1
[23:49] <tiko> Anyone?
[23:49] <ikonia> redhunters: there are distributions made for security testing, they would be better than trying to force something that's not setup to use in the way you want it
[23:49] <codex84> whats the problem
[23:49] <codex84> with aircrack
[23:49] <codex84> ?
[23:49] <Acid190> redhunters: I use bt4, but if you like ubuntu, try nodezero?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> tiko: you can use security in preferences (I believe) and change / set the keyring pass
[23:51] <dean> hello
[23:51] <codex84> sup
[23:51] <tiko> removed everything from there, still no luck ActionParship
[23:51] <redhunters> ok guys ty, u it shall work  and its not a problem break files, this pc is for experiment we want fix this kernel bug we just curious
[23:51] <dean> !man
[23:51] <ikonia> redhunters: it's not a kernel bug
[23:51] <dean> !usb | dean
[23:52] <dean> !usb
[23:52] <ikonia> redhunters: the patches are left out of the ubuntu kernel for a reason, hence why I'm saying don't apply those patches, use a distro that's setup to do what you want
[23:52] <dean> !automount
[23:52] <ian_> !test
[23:52] <agu10^> hi guys
[23:52] <dean> ok
[23:52] <agu10^> look, blender used without mouse
[23:52] <agu10^> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVCdCFElq6Q
[23:52] <ikonia> agu10^: don't need to see it in a support channel
[23:53] <kwtm> After I change /etc/apt/preferences , what is the minimum I need to do to update pinning priorities?  Do I need to do apt-get update, or if I have a slow network is there something else I can do to make the system realize I want an older version of a package?
[23:53] <tiko> I was joggling with the gconf-editor and
[23:53] <tiko> now i don't have internet
[23:53] <tiko> not wireless, not wired
[23:53] <tiko> deleted everything .gnome .gconf
[23:53] <redhunters> ok iko ty ill chek  if i can get backtrack it just wont work  other day i may kepp  cheking
[23:53] <tiko> still no internet
[23:53] <ian_> #test
[23:53] <ikonia> !bot | ian_
[23:55] <Pacman> Hey
[23:56] <mickster04> tiko: gconf doesn't really play with the netowrk stuff
[23:57] <tiko> I know mickster, that was the last thing i was doing for some weeks before
[23:57] <tiko> i have triple boot, win7, win xp and ubuntu 10.10
[23:57] <tiko> now when i restart mickster04
[23:57] <tiko> i don't get internet
[23:57] <tiko> config problem?
[23:58] <tiko> nano /var/network/interfaces
[23:58] <tiko> done that
[23:58] <tiko> dhcp is set
[23:58] <tiko> for wlan
[23:58] <prog> hello
[23:58] <th0r> tiko: do you have automatic updates turned on?
[23:58] <tiko> no access to internet at all
[23:58] <tiko> cannot connect to ubuntu archives
[23:58] <th0r> tiko: before you lost the internet, did you have updates turned on?
[23:59] <prog> is there any fix to that annoying synaptics touch pad jitter?
[23:59] <tiko> i think so, sir?!
[23:59] <tiko> thor
[23:59] <nvisioncg> Can anyone help?  I purchased a Sage NP3101 notebook.  When using the webcam, it is lagging a lot.  I can use guvcview to put the webcam to manual but then the picture is really dark.
[23:59] <tiko> i might have hade it set on
[23:59] <th0r> tiko: it might have been an update that killed your internet. If you have an earlier kernel in the boot menu you might try that