| ScottK | It would not have been possible if I'd not experienced apachelogger as a Disney mouse princess in person. | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | rofl | 00:09 |
| valorie | time with apachelogger IS positive motivation | 00:10 |
| valorie | time with all of the team is | 00:11 |
| * apachelogger hands valorie http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/phonon-backend-vlc-0.3.95.tar.bz2 :P | 00:11 | |
| valorie | this is better than git for testing? | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | valorie: no | 00:14 |
| valorie | ok, then I won't install it | 00:15 |
| valorie | I built last night from git | 00:15 |
| valorie | and vlc from git as well | 00:15 |
| valorie | btw, congrats to you and shadeslayer and the rest of the accepted GSoC students | 00:16 |
| valorie | I look forward to good things this summer and fall | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | thx | 00:18 |
| * apachelogger actually is feeling the pressure already :P | 00:18 | |
| apachelogger | someone decided it'd be a good idea to mention qml video as first of the accepted projects in the dot news | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | now I actually have to finish this crap :P | 00:18 |
| valorie | haha | 00:18 |
| valorie | btw, I tried to install U1 the other day | 00:19 |
| valorie | it won't even start | 00:19 |
| valorie | in lucid it worked | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | valorie: the gnome u1? | 00:19 |
| valorie | yes | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | well yeah | 00:19 |
| valorie | that's all that's available | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | they have people do packaging you have not ever done packaging | 00:19 |
| valorie | not worth a bug report since natty is nigh | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | horrible combination with python software (which only has runtime dependencies) | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | so mostly stuff doesn't work because people don't know what a package needs to depend on and then no one reports a bug that there is a dep missing because no one gives a shit :P | 00:20 |
| valorie | aren't their packagers paid? | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | like ubuntu-sso-client actually did not depend on gnome-keyring | 00:20 |
| yofel | valorie: gnome-keyring is installed? | 00:21 |
| valorie | hmmm | 00:21 |
| valorie | dunno | 00:21 |
| apachelogger | there was no bug report on this | 00:21 |
| valorie | wouldn't that have been automatic if it depended on it? | 00:21 |
| valorie | well, I didn't try installing until a couple of days ago | 00:21 |
| apachelogger | valorie: you would think that a company that does a linux distribution ought to have resources available to package their own software properly once a week ;) | 00:21 |
| valorie | indeed | 00:21 |
| yofel | well, it did depend on it in the past, then they made it use that secret service stuff but never checked if anyone besides gnome actually implemented that | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | about the automatic ... yes ... but as mentioned gnome-keyring was and still is no dep | 00:22 |
| valorie | dunno about secret service | 00:22 |
| valorie | hmmm | 00:22 |
| valorie | I want notes that will sync across laptop/netbook/phone | 00:23 |
| valorie | so started using Tomboy | 00:23 |
| valorie | since Basket is zombie | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | yofel: bug 769520 | 00:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 769520 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) "missing dependency on gnome-keyring" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769520 | 00:23 |
| yofel | thx | 00:23 |
| * apachelogger actually points out the missing deps before every release since lucid :P | 00:24 | |
| apachelogger | they never get fixed before the release though :/ | 00:24 |
| valorie | gnome-keyring is installed | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | one of the motivational disadvantages of a standing SRU exception I suppose | 00:24 |
| valorie | as is lib | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | eh, s/exception/permission or something | 00:24 |
| valorie | and libpam | 00:24 |
| valorie | and python-gnomekeyring | 00:25 |
| PauseBazinga | valorie: like tomboy? haven't used it myself, but do juggle desktop/netbook/phone | 00:26 |
| PauseBazinga | could be worth checking out? has it been smooth? | 00:27 |
| * apachelogger notes that the reason basket is zombie is because it was rather badly engineered | 00:27 | |
| apachelogger | at least when I last looked at it some (probably) years ago | 00:27 |
| * PauseBazinga revokes his question to valorie in light of recent movie watching obligations. | 00:29 | |
| valorie | heh | 00:32 |
| valorie | so far, so good, but without U1 integration..... | 00:32 |
| valorie | bleah | 00:32 |
| valorie | I loved Basket when I used it | 00:32 |
| valorie | then an update or upgrade wiped all my data | 00:33 |
| valorie | could never get it back | 00:33 |
| valorie | tomboy isn't pretty like our KDE stuffs | 00:33 |
| valorie | sad to say, I still miss one Windows app: ClipCache | 00:34 |
| valorie | I didn't run under wine, so..... sadness | 00:34 |
| valorie | apachelogger: phonon-vlc still is buggy for streaming | 01:08 |
| valorie | runs fine for maybe 10 mins | 01:08 |
| valorie | then: http://paste.kde.org/32167/ | 01:10 |
| valorie | and as soon as I changed volume via Kmix, total flipout on a downloaded podcast | 01:17 |
| valorie | wouldn't start playing it again even after amarok restart | 01:17 |
| ScottK | valorie: Why do you think there is any relationship between "knowing how to package" and "getting paid for it"? | 01:31 |
| ScottK | (re U1 packaging bugs) | 01:32 |
| valorie | well, you would think that people getting paid would at least take the time to learn how to do it properly | 01:32 |
| ScottK | You might. Once one is getting paid, isn't the objective already accomplished? | 01:32 |
| valorie | that isn't the way i worked, when I was getting paid | 01:32 |
| valorie | ... | 01:32 |
| ScottK | Seriously, building a Linux distro is, it seems, the only thing Canonical knows how to do. | 01:32 |
| ScottK | Of course they started from Debian people who knew that already. | 01:33 |
| valorie | well, they have recruitment problems then | 01:34 |
| valorie | they should hire the people who hang out here | 01:34 |
| valorie | and pay them double | 01:34 |
| valorie | I wasn't impressed by the U1 Canonical crew | 01:34 |
| valorie | they came into the meeting with earplugs in | 01:35 |
| valorie | and a load of attitude | 01:36 |
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| maco | ScottK: build succeeded for bindings. installed it here, and my setup.py seems happy now | 04:47 |
| ScottK | maco: Excellent. Let me know when you have an SRU ready (including bug with test case) and I'll be happy to sponsor it. | 04:47 |
| maco | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-kde4/+bug/695590 | 04:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 695590 in python-kde4 (Ubuntu) "pykdeuic4's processUi() calls compileUi() with 3 args instead of the 4 required by PyQt4.uic.Compiler.compiler" [Medium,Triaged] | 04:54 |
| ScottK | Riddell, apachelogger, someone with KDE commit rights: Would you please commit http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269710 - I just uploaded an SRU for it and it'd be nice if it was in KDE 4.6.3. | 05:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 269710 in general "pykdeuic4 broken in 4 6 x" [Crash,New] | 05:21 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I am able to testrun the image(s) when I get home wrom work (: | 06:11 |
| steveire_ | ScottK: I can't think of any reason kdepim 4.4.11 would not work properly with kdepimlibs 4.4, but I don't test such a configuration and I doubt anyone has. | 08:31 |
| debfx | agateau: do you know if there is a way for applications to detect if it's allowed to display a tray icon when running on unity? QSystemTrayIcon::isSystemTrayAvailable() always returns true | 08:48 |
| agateau | debfx: iirc unity maintains a whitelist of authorized applications, I guess one could query the list from unity config. That sounds complicated but it's the only way my back-from-holiday-brain can think of | 08:49 |
| bambee | morning | 09:00 |
| debfx | agateau: yeah that sounds complicated :( | 09:03 |
| agateau | debfx: the long term solution is to switch to StatusNotifierItem-based icons | 09:04 |
| debfx | agateau: there are some applications that implement a "hide to tray on close" logic that depends on the system tray icon being visible | 09:11 |
| debfx | they break when isSystemTrayAvailable() return the wrong value | 09:12 |
| debfx | is anyone working on a qt-only statusnotifieritem implementation? | 09:12 |
| agateau | debfx: not that I know of :/ I may be asked to implement one for next cycle, but nothing firm yet | 09:12 |
| agateau | debfx: quassel devs implemented it so one could get inspiration from their work | 09:13 |
| debfx | agateau: I've tested quassel on unity, it doesn't display the status icon | 09:17 |
| agateau | debfx: oh, weird | 09:18 |
| * agateau needs to try it | 09:18 | |
| debfx | also unity doesn't emit activateRequested which most kde applications treat as show/hide the main window | 09:22 |
| debfx | so "hide on close" doesn't work either | 09:24 |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: ping | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: synack | 09:59 |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: Are you going to UDS? | 09:59 |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: duh, how many forints are you taking with you? | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | forints? | 10:02 |
| apachelogger | holy cheese cake! | 10:02 |
| Quintasan1 | hungarian value | 10:02 |
| apachelogger | they do not even have no EUR over there | 10:02 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 10:02 | |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: I'm nomming on cheese cake as we speak :P | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: I do believe that ~200 EUR ought to be sufficient | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | probably less | 10:03 |
| Quintasan1 | 700 POLISH ZLOTY? | 10:03 |
| Quintasan1 | WTF | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | I drink a lot :P | 10:03 |
| Quintasan1 | Wouldnt 20k forints suffice? | 10:04 |
| apachelogger | how much is that in proper money? | 10:04 |
| * apachelogger is highly disturbed by the fact that one needs to append a k to be talking about sensible amounts | 10:05 | |
| Quintasan1 | 76 euro apparently | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | it is like in shadeslayer land | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: quite honestly you could just as well take 50 | 10:05 |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: How the hell can you spend 200 Euro on drinking? :O | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | there surely are no ATM problems in budapest as europe generally likes real money, unlike the US :P | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: ask ScottK | 10:06 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: well actually that is also eating out and stuff | 10:06 |
| apachelogger | oh actually, that also included expenses for tabacco | 10:06 |
| Quintasan1 | >implying I smoke | 10:06 |
| Quintasan1 | apachelogger: oy, we get food in the hotel, don't we? | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: you better check in FL we did not get dinner | 10:07 |
| Quintasan1 | well, whatever, I'll take ~70 Euro | 10:08 |
| Quintasan1 | and some from my "pocket" money | 10:09 |
| Quintasan1 | oh wait | 10:09 |
| Quintasan1 | I've got only around 3 Euro on my bank account | 10:09 |
| Quintasan1 | lol | 10:09 |
| Quintasan1 | brb going shoppping | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan1: I would take less and get more money on the bank account | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | unless exchange fees for the bank account are insanely high ^^ | 10:10 |
| bulldog98 | hi guys, I packaged the new kdepim beta release in staging. If someone could test it, we could move it to experimental | 10:45 |
| Riddell | thanks bulldog98 | 10:50 |
| Riddell | I'm busy doing ISO testing today I'm afraid | 10:50 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: no problem it has time :) | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: will it eat my pimz? | 11:10 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: it hasn’t eaten mine, and the devs want to release a rc with KDE 4.6.3 | 11:11 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: but a backup isn’t bad either :) | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | they wanted to release final like a decade ago :P | 11:11 |
| ulysses | and tehy will be releas it after the armageddon maybe:P | 11:12 |
| jussi | far out... how long can it take to get a few gig of messages into kmail :( | 11:12 |
| * jussi grumbles | 11:12 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: they’ll tag on 4.6.3 release look kde-i18n-doc list to see the truth :) | 11:13 |
| jussi | btw, anyone know if I can has gmail calendars in kontact? | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: why does hu not have the mighty EUR? I am most annoyed by the fact that I need to get me different money just because I am travelling some 300km or so :P | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: I remember some software that remained in rc for years | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | I think it was KO | 11:14 |
| bulldog98 | jussi: afaik it’s possible, but I don’t use gmail, so I wasn’t able to test | 11:14 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: e17? | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | e17 is a POC project | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | not supposed to ever be released | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | jussi: sure you canz | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | jussi: you cannot editz them | 11:15 |
| jussi | oh :( | 11:15 |
| ulysses | apachelogger: we will have EUR when KDE PIM will release finally:P so maybe never… | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | well, actually you can using akonadi-googledata | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | BUT | 11:15 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: some libs were released as 1.0 | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | only your main calendar | 11:15 |
| steveire_ | wine was RC for a long time | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: outrages really :P | 11:16 |
| * apachelogger is not going to UDS | 11:16 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: NOOOOOOOOO | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | everywhere you go they have monopoly money | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: if it breaks my perfectly working kdepim 4.4.30029 I will personally come after you | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: what do you think, how much cash should Quintasan_ take with him? | 11:17 |
| * apachelogger is living on real money and thus has a completely distrubed picture of how expensive stuff is supposed to be :P | 11:18 | |
| apachelogger | also I am an alcoholic, but that is a different story | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | jussi: when do we get a memenu btw? | 11:18 |
| jussi | apachelogger: when you make it finally? :D | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | jussi: oh, come to think of it, you should have suggested that to the shadeslayer as a gsoc project | 11:18 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I hope you don’t have to come after me | 11:19 |
| jussi | hehe | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | memenu ought to be a lot easier with telepathy really | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | also i makes more sense IMHO | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | s/i/it | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | though I also make more sense | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | anyone wanna test phonon-vlc? | 11:19 |
| bulldog98 | has someone packaged telepathy already? | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | I do not think there is much working to package yet | 11:20 |
| bulldog98 | ok | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: if you have time later today you could package phonon vlc 0.4.0 :P | 11:20 |
| ulysses | apachelogger: don't know, he'll have sponsorship, right? then heh as to take whatever he want:P | 11:21 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I just finished school and will have free until octobre so I defently have time :) | 11:21 |
| * apachelogger conducted usability tests; phonon vlc 0.4.0 improves .prn experience by 300% | 11:21 | |
| apachelogger | you get there faster and better | 11:21 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: were to get the tar? | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: well how much would be dinning out 3 times? | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: not yet available | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: you could test http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/phonon-backend-vlc-0.3.95.tar.bz2 though :D | 11:22 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I hope there aren’t much changes :) | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | it is almost a complete rewrite :P | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&m=130345905903552&w=2 | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger starts kontact and is scared | 11:25 | |
| apachelogger | steveire_: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot174.png is that going to be in the final? | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: clicking the more information I get to userbase where the first sentence I read: "In KDE Software Compilation 4.4 KAddressBook became the first application to use Akonadi. There are inevitable glitches in early stages of migration, and the Troubleshooting page will help solve them." | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | very reassuring :S | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | being lazy I read that and my educated decision looks like this: exit kmail2 | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | on that note ... I started Kontact, why is it talking about kmail2? | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/599218/ after migrator finished | 11:31 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I meant changes between 0.3.95 and 0.4 :) | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: almost identical | 11:42 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: because it migrated kmail1 to kmail2 :) | 11:42 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ok that’s good | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | *I* do not know that, do I? | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | if I start kontact I do not know or expect it to start or talk about kmail | 11:42 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: maybe you could write an bugreport ? | 11:43 |
| * apachelogger told steveire_ that needs to suffice :P | 11:46 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: :) | 11:46 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: the tar can be build without modifications in the debian dir :) | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | build dep on phonon needs bump though | 11:51 |
| ScottK | steveire_: Thanks. I suspect the best thing is to leave the older release as it is then. | 11:51 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: what version of phonon is required? Because there is no min version defined in CMakeLists.txt | 12:10 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: second the version set in CMakeLists.txt is 0.3.55 | 12:10 |
| steveire_ | If you start kontact I think you should know that that starts kmail :) | 12:35 |
| steveire_ | apachelogger: So the migration finished, then you got a crash? | 12:36 |
| steveire_ | Does it work after restart? | 12:36 |
| steveire_ | Why does my do-release-upgrade run in screen? That prevents me from scrolling it. | 12:39 |
| Riddell | you can scroll in screen using the copy buffer | 12:41 |
| Riddell | control-<magic>-[ | 12:42 |
| steveire_ | magic? | 12:43 |
| steveire_ | ctrl+[ doesn't work anyway | 12:43 |
| Riddell | magic being whatever the screen escape key is, "a" by default I think | 12:47 |
| Riddell | then page up and down | 12:47 |
| Riddell | return twice to exit | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: works after | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: 4.5 | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: also it apparently did not migrate anything | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | or the crash prevented the migrated data from being stored or something | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | completely empty imap resources in kmail :/ | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | (I used dimap before) | 12:51 |
| steveire_ | Odd | 12:52 |
| * apachelogger will have to give the dell a call because of overheating problems -.- | 12:53 | |
| steveire_ | apachelogger: Do you have akonadiconsole installed? | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: now I do | 12:57 |
| steveire_ | In the first tab does it show some status for the imap resource? | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: ready | 13:00 |
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| apachelogger | also my default calendar, my personal calendar and my default address book seem to have no file set :/ | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | them poor things | 13:01 |
| steveire_ | Can you akonadictl restart and see if you get errors reported? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: nothing regarding imap | 13:09 |
| steveire_ | Can you check if the log file contains anything interesting? | 13:10 |
| steveire_ | in .kde/share/apps/kmail-migrator | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | nothing | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | [Tue Apr 26 12:29:05 2011] Success: Local folders migrated successfully. | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | [Tue Apr 26 12:29:05 2011] Success: Migration successfully completed. | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | [Tue Apr 26 12:29:06 2011] Info : Migration finished. | 13:12 |
| bambee | in your opinion, it is worth it to apply for season of kde from 30th june to the deadline ? (I am doing an intership which ends around the 30th june) | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ^ | 13:34 |
| bambee | apachelogger: I sent an e-mail to lydia this morning | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | ah | 13:34 |
| bambee | apparently it's possible, but it's not my question | 13:34 |
| bambee | in your opinion, it's interesting or not ? | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | bambee: IMHO it doesnt make much sense | 13:35 |
| bambee | it's not too short ? | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | I think it is too short | 13:35 |
| bambee | mhhh | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: does the gsoc team name need to be silly? ^^ | 13:38 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: up to you - but hey it shoudl be fun no? ;-) | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | the thing is ... when I read silly it hit me like lightning | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | "the KDE cheeseballs" | 13:39 |
| Nightrose | lol | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | which indeed is srsly silly | 13:39 |
| Nightrose | have your teammates had a say in that? :D | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | writing a mail right now | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, I find the student team approach very likable | 13:39 |
| Nightrose | :) | 13:40 |
| Nightrose | i'm kinda excited to see what comes out of it | 13:40 |
| jussi | kde cheeseballs.... ROFL!! | 13:49 |
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| apachelogger | Nightrose: how long a post should I throw up regarding KHC? | 14:30 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: long enough for someone to get the idea and short enough to not have them fall asleep ;-) | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: couldn't I just go like "KHC is shit, needs more intarwebs, needs rewrite, needs sexy gui... here is what I wrote to kde-devel, here is what I proposed as project"? | 14:32 |
| Nightrose | -.- | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: well, with proper sentences of course | 14:33 |
| Nightrose | then probably | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | but repeating the arguments for why a rewrite would be necessary and what advantages online content integartion has would seem like pointless work | 14:34 |
| Nightrose | sure | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | ok | 14:34 |
| * apachelogger takes his tablet and leaves for coffee and blog authoring | 14:34 | |
| bambee | apachelogger: try to build this code, http://paste.kde.org/33913/ :D | 14:39 |
| bambee | syntaxically it's correct, it's defined in the C99 norm o_O | 14:39 |
| bambee | :P | 14:40 |
| bambee | there are fun things in the norm... | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | quasseldroid aint doing no urly | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | bambee is that supposed to look funny? | 14:49 |
| bambee | ^^ | 14:50 |
| * apachelogger returns from coffee adventures and notes that it is jolly difficult to write good blog posts | 15:03 | |
| apachelogger | now | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | bambee: about your code snippet... it indeeds is one of the funnier things, then again it probably only is funny because no one does it ^^ | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | bambee: I am a bit shoked that it uses # though :P | 15:05 |
| bambee | apachelogger: it's funny because syntaxically it's ugly and nobody will understand a code snippet like that, and contradictory it's defined in the norm. | 15:06 |
| * apachelogger looks for the iso spec | 15:06 | |
| bambee | apachelogger: you can also use %include :P | 15:06 |
| bambee | apachelogger: for a real nerd it's funny :P | 15:07 |
| bambee | ^^ | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | a real nerd would not find it funny but go looking for the reason why those :> <: <% %> :% and :%:% are mapped | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digraphs_and_trigraphs | 15:09 |
| steveire_ | Great, now all my computers are running natty | 15:11 |
| steveire_ | apachelogger: Did you resolve the issues with the contacts and events? | 15:12 |
| ScottK | ISO testing needs to get done people ... http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | 15:13 |
| * apachelogger giggles | 15:13 | |
| apachelogger | "Day of the Natty - the new thriller by linda castillo" | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | steveire_: I did not try, it seems like bogus migration though | 15:13 |
| * apachelogger is dancing the release tango though | 15:14 | |
| tazz | ok so why is /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ibus-kde breaking my .deb packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/599313/ | 15:14 |
| tazz | turns out the file belongs to plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus | 15:14 |
| steveire_ | krake is the migration expert | 15:15 |
| bambee | ScottK: I can help with testing this evening. | 15:19 |
| ScottK | bambee: Great. | 15:19 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i have a candidate for khc - told him you'd blog soon | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose++ | 15:25 |
| ScottK | Nightrose: Caution. apachelogger's blogging 'soon' can be a long time to mere mortals. | 15:29 |
| bambee | ScottK: testing is the only remaining step ? | 15:29 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 15:29 |
| Nightrose | ScottK: heh true that | 15:29 |
| * apachelogger could be blogging like 7 articles within less than an hour :P | 15:30 | |
| apachelogger | if only I had enough motivation to actually finish them | 15:30 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: _could_ | 15:30 |
| ScottK | bambee: Also writing release notes, but I think claydoh will handle that. | 15:32 |
| Riddell | upgrade testing too | 15:41 |
| Riddell | oh and upgrade notes too | 15:41 |
| bambee | ScottK: ok | 15:59 |
| ScottK | Slightly late, KDE 4.5.5 is in maverick-updates. | 16:08 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ Worth something on kubuntu.org? | 16:08 |
| Riddell | ScottK: go for it | 16:16 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: ^^^ | 16:19 |
| ScottK | I doubt I'll have time today. Can probably do it late tonight if I can find my password and someone else doesn't get to it first. | 16:19 |
| === steveire_ is now known as steveire | ||
| agateau | Riddell: hi, how would you feel about a late one-line patch for Qt? | 16:38 |
| Riddell | agateau: too late for CD images, can do for -proposed | 16:39 |
| Riddell | what's the change? | 16:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/jerTUVJt | 16:40 |
| agateau | Riddell: fixes a memleak the size of a titanic-hull hole in unity-2d-places | 16:40 |
| ScottK | agateau: SRU. | 16:42 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok | 16:46 |
| agateau | nevermind the link by the way, it's absolutely not the patch I was refering to | 16:48 |
| Riddell | agateau: was about to say... | 16:50 |
| agateau | Riddell: real patch: http://pastebin.com/s38a45Mt | 16:55 |
| Riddell | agateau: do you know if there's a bug already open for this? | 17:06 |
| Riddell | oh yes, it says so in the patch | 17:08 |
| Riddell | agateau: is this/will this go upstream to Qt? | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | mmmm ... hi everyone | 17:23 |
| Riddell | good evening shadeslayer | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | hey Riddell | 17:24 |
| Riddell | agateau: uploaded to natty-proposed awaiting approval, please (tell florian) to add a test case to the bug | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: any trivial stuff that can be done today? | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | i'll finish off the xorg-edgers and PN stuff today | 17:28 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ISO testing. | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: out of bandwidth :'( | 17:28 |
| ScottK | Meh. | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | i have upgrades downloading at 12 KBps | 17:29 |
| * shadeslayer makes the todo page a bit more green | 17:29 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: when will the release come? | 17:33 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ping me and I’ll package it | 17:33 |
| ScottK | I would appreciate it if someone could verify Bug #771281. | 17:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 771281 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Natty) "kubuntu-full not installable in Natty" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771281 | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: already on ktown | 17:34 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ok | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i can confirm i have the issue | 17:34 |
| * shadeslayer is updating sources | 17:34 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: btw I heard something about ktown getting closed. Is this only rumor? | 17:34 |
| Blackmoon | hi i'm under maverick, i've tried to upgrade to natty but i've got an error: E:Errore, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve ha generato delle interruzioni. Questo potrebbe essere causato da pacchetti bloccati. | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i still haz issue | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | reporting from 5:63ubuntu16 | 17:36 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: You need kubuntu-full 1.222.1. It won't hit archive.ubuntu.com for another few minutes. | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | righto, i was just looking at the publishing page | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | oh yayy .. only 77 megs of updates | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | win | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: for xorg-edgers and neon, we put in instructions on how to add the PPA and then how to report bugs ? | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | against the driver/kwin | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | yofel_: fyi apport script is busted for project-neon-kde-workspace, only gives me a dep list | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | not very helpful if i want to look at a kdm bug | 17:41 |
| yofel_ | erm, that's all the hook currently collects, nothing else implemented yet | 17:43 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | :( | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: okay i'm going to ask for a kdm.log and xession-error file then | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: well, ktown as place to do it all and everything | 17:45 |
| yofel | k, busy now, I'll look at it later | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | ah okay | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | all sorts of shit is running on ktown | 17:46 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ok | 17:47 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: is ktown running in ktown aka kaiserslautern? | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | maybe | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | AFAIK it lives in some space ship of novell | 17:48 |
| yofel | funny enough an IP locator does show ktowns IP to be in Kaiserslautern ^^ | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | scaries | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you are not attending the youdeeess? | 17:53 |
| yofel | not this one | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | yofel: too bad :/ | 17:59 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: do you attend desktopsummit? | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | o/o/o/o/o/o/o/o/o/o/o/o/ http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/phonon-vlc-0-4-0/ \o\o\o\o\o\o\o\o\o\o\o\o | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: yes | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | not saturday though as my sis is getting married that day | 18:05 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: so I testbuild the new version | 18:06 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: kdepim was just branched | 18:08 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: where to upload the package? | 18:13 |
| bulldog98 | staging? | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | I think it can go to -backports | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: did you move kdepi yet? | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | m | 18:16 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: no | 18:17 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: rebuild or just copy? | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | rbld is always saver | 18:19 |
| bulldog98 | launchpad is giving me an error | 18:20 |
| bulldog98 | launchpad requires the REFERER header | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | launchpad <3 | 18:21 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: how can I fix this | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | dunno | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: best ask in #launchpad | 18:22 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: could you please move kdepim since it’s not possible for me atm | 18:28 |
| === Pici is now known as Guest67539 | ||
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: oh I forgot to add the ~ppa1 | 18:37 |
| bulldog98 | for phonon-backend-vlc | 18:37 |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| shadeslayer | ScottK: issue not resolved :( | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | this is on 1.222.1 | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: in a bit | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | and resizing konsole still kills my laptop :/ | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger we can haz for Kubuntu ? http://try-ubuntu-beta.ec42.net/ | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: but whaaii ? | 19:13 |
| * shadeslayer is hungry | 19:13 | |
| * shadeslayer eats Java for dinner | 19:13 | |
| apachelogger | I think you will need to ask stgraber | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | AFAIK he kicked off that stuff with edubuntu | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | iirc yes | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: it works for you? | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | kde-full i mean | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: p0ke | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: syn | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: synack | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ack | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: coming to the Desktop summit? | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | "hello, I am a server" | 19:31 |
| * apachelogger giggles | 19:31 | |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, markey promised to marry me | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how long are you staying? | 19:32 |
| markey | haha | 19:32 |
| markey | yeah riiiight | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | markey: should i bring gifts? | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | until I believing again | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: whole week | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | supposedly leaving on monday or somesuch | 19:32 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: do you come? | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: Most probably | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | unless there is reason to not be leaving, like markey wants to spend our honeymoon in berlin | 19:33 |
| bulldog98 | lol | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | nah ... i thought markey was romantic | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: he'll take you to paris | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | berlin is romantic | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | you got all them arts there | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | not more than paris | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | sure | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | well, of the good arts anyway | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | paris is just cheesy | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you're arriving on ? | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | which would work as I am about to form the KDE cheeseball team | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | 31st or 1st ? | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: should I be worrid if my team of awesome has not yet replied (after 6 hours)? | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: sunday | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: they were probably killed by a elite team of ninjas | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sent by the gnomies :P | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | pfff | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | jahava witnesses ftw! | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | now i'll have nightmares | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | you just said the j word | 19:35 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: kubuntu-full, yes | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: weird, i still can't get it to install | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | maybe because i haz experimental installed? | 19:36 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: don’t you like java (was my first programming language) | 19:36 |
| bulldog98 | then I learned C++ for a good reason :) | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | my first programming language was ada | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: too many main functions for my comfort | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | Borland C++ was my first programming language | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | ah | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | which is complete shit i might add | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you saw bambee's code of interest today? | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | something for you to learn | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | code of what? | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | where? | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | as your college surely does not tell you that sorta thing | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/33913/ | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | that reminds me of a book I am reading | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | magic | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | the magical manmonth | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | with space or some such | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | that looks like MagiK to me | 19:38 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: yes! | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | very good read | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: what the question was I do not remember | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | ahhhh | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: srsly? | 19:38 |
| * apachelogger freaks out a bit | 19:38 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where are you staying? | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | gmail: search! in:spam gsoc | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | nothing there | 19:39 |
| * apachelogger freaks out a bit moar | 19:39 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: on top of markey | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | hahahaha | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | ok i'm definitely coming to see that | 19:39 |
| markey | rofl | 19:39 |
| markey | you pig | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what do you plan to do about Mamarok ? | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | markey: we could make the monies out of letting people watch it would appear | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why? | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | the three of us are an item, dont you know | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | very modern relationship that is | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ...? | 19:41 |
| * shadeslayer is still hungry after eating the javaz ... turn to eat pyth0rn | 19:41 | |
| * apachelogger is starting to get scared | 19:41 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: take a deeo breath | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: beware the pyth0rnz | 19:41 |
| Nightrose | *deep | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | they might be eating you | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: so it is not to worry? | 19:41 |
| * Nightrose needs to do thesis review | 19:41 | |
| Nightrose | for serious | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | no | 19:41 |
| Nightrose | deadline on monday | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i'm certain i'm eating them | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | cause if I had won gsoc I would be all over the place and answerign emails everywhere | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | oh, I did that actually ^^ | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | might also be because I got bored while waiting for release stuff to proceed | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ohhhhhh, good looks *hugs* *kisses* *sendbacktowork* | 19:42 |
| Nightrose | :) | 19:43 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: you could write an announcement for kdepim beta 5 :P | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | for that I am too drunk | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | also I am codering right now | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: i'd have to take a flight to Frankfurt and then to Berlin i guess, right? ( From Delhi, India ) | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: would http://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2011-04/alkohol-sucht-studie apply to you? | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: I guess that to | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: I also have to go to Frankfurt before traveling with DB to Berlin | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | hmm' | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: i'm being routed via Russia :P | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | DEL -> SVO -> SXF | 19:49 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: hm | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder if thats the right airport tho | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | there's SXF, TXL and BER | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ which is the right one? | 19:50 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: last year I would have been able to fly with rynair to berlin for 20 € but they stopped that service so I have to go by train | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: this is like 520 € | 19:52 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: SXF there are trains every 30 mins in direction to center | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah kewl | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: hahah ... everything is routed via Russia | 19:53 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: by train I have to pay 42 € and 6 € for every other person | 19:53 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: hm | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | sweet | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | I think SXF or TXL are fine | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. flights look pretty cheap | 19:59 |
| bambee | apachelogger: my code ? | 20:06 |
| bambee | (I was eating, so I just did read the message now) | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: your magical code | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 20:06 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: have you booked an hotel already? | 20:08 |
| bambee | :P | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: i'll be applying to KDE e.V | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | so i think they make the arrangements, the picture is a bit blurry right now | 20:08 |
| bulldog98 | ok I’ll pay it (not to much should be less than 200 €) | 20:09 |
| bulldog98 | my own of cause | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: uh, what? did you mean that you'll be paying for yourself? | 20:14 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: yes | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | ah okay | 20:17 |
| * shadeslayer noms on some cookies | 20:17 | |
| bulldog98 | I don’t have money to pay other persons bill (if it’s higher than 50 €) | 20:17 |
| * bulldog98 has to do some work to pay the desktop summit attending | 20:17 | |
| bambee | I can participate to UDS remotely, unfortunately I cannot drink a beer with you remotely :'( | 20:21 |
| * bambee will drink alone | 20:22 | |
| apachelogger | we are not drinking beer while doing remote things | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | that is the reason I need to stay up late and drink, so that I get through the day | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | it all makes sense | 20:23 |
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