[00:06] <Walzmyn> How would one go about getting a package's dependencies changed?
[00:19] <realjoe> help! My dorm switched to 802.1x authentification and knetworkmanager seems to be broken since ages, what can I do? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673
[00:34] <dorkface> Hi all.  Does anyone know of a program or configuration that can change the color of the task panel entries based on what virtual desktop they are on?
[01:41] <Walzmyn> So... I used to be able to send Quassel to the tray, now it's bundled in this message center and I can't do that. what gives?
[02:00] <EricBlade-mobile> good evening peeps.  i just installed kubuntu 11 on my netbook, as it's prior installation was dead, and i hada kubuntu usb stick lying around .. and .. this interface is .. nightmarish.  is there any way to relatively quickly return to a more "traditional" interface?
[02:01] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: system settings > workspace behaviour > workspace > workspace type
[02:03] <EricBlade-mobile> James147: oh good god that is about a million times better, if i can work out a way to significantly decrease the size of all the icons and stuff in that task bar .. thank you SO much
[02:04] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: right clcik the panel > panel settings > drag "height" (assuming widgets are unlocked)
[02:04] <EricBlade-mobile> that "netbook" interface might be alright on a touch screen tablet, but it's super bad otherwise
[02:04] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: its not :)  you just have to use it differently
[02:05] <EricBlade-mobile> auto maximizing everything is just a bad bad plan though :)
[02:05] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: why? when screen space is limited then why would you want windows unmaximised?
[02:06] <EricBlade-mobile> even dialog boxes? notification popups? file transfer windows?
[02:07] <James147> dialogboxes dont really matter most the time, and transfer window and notification are not on mine
[02:07] <EricBlade-mobile> and a lot of stuff  on the stock apps that i triedd would end up off screen, until i unmaximized them
[02:08] <EricBlade-mobile> and resized
[02:08] <James147> really? dosnt happen here...
[02:08] <James147> you on natty?
[02:08] <EricBlade-mobile> is that 11?
[02:08] <James147> 11.04
[02:09] <EricBlade-mobile> yea
[02:09] <EricBlade-mobile> crap
[02:09] <EricBlade-mobile> i hit resize, and it only goes at default size or 0, and 0 crashes it
[02:10] <EricBlade-mobile> ah there it is after it restarted it started moving smooth
[02:12] <EricBlade-mobile> ok well im in much better shape now thank you so much, again
[02:13] <EricBlade-mobile> now time to do the 500mb update :)
[02:14] <EricBlade-mobile> hopefully i can remove everything having to do with printers and save 900mb of space like i did on my last distro
[02:16] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: is saving 900mb worth the effort? how big is you hd?
[02:16] <EricBlade-mobile> 4gig
[02:17] <James147> :) then probally
[02:17] <EricBlade-mobile> i haven'[t used a printer more than twice in the last decade
[02:18] <EricBlade-mobile> maybe i can figure out how to mount /usr on my sdcard, but it didn't seem like an easy task on the last setup i had, since the usb drive wouldn't mount until after /usr was loaded
[02:18] <EricBlade-mobile> er, not /usr, i mean /home
[02:19] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: if you add an entry to /etc/fstab then it should be mounted before the system boots
[02:20] <EricBlade-mobile> i'll look into it again, i seem to recall there was some problem with dynamic naming of something or other, it's been a year or two since i looked into that
[02:21] <James147> EricBlade-mobile: I would use UUID to refence it, then there is no problem with that
[02:22] <EricBlade-mobile> i was quite happy with my eeebuntu install, but one day it just stopped networking and the only indication of the problem was "Failed" when trying to insmod the atheros drivers
[02:22] <EricBlade-mobile> kubuntu booted right up and started networking so now it's on here :)
[02:24] <EricBlade-mobile> this is a really nice tiny irc client, this quassel.  if i could get rid of the timestamps that'd be awesome
[02:25] <James147> I think you can
[02:25] <EricBlade-mobile> and the default fonts here are -definitely- superior to what i had before
[02:45] <Sparks37> in order to get online at the universtity, the tech had to change some rekonq settings, and then he pressed make changes permanent, before i could tell him to just do it for the session. how do i undo the "invalid certificate" redirect changes he made?
[02:46] <guest09876> I cant sync my iphone but i can mount it and pull pic off it
[03:00] <EricBlade-mobile> hmm.. the sound volume on here is bad .. with the mixer set to all max .. any suggestions? my old instal was much louder
[07:37] <Keshl> Can I ask about Wubi here, or is that better for #ubuntu? I figured since I'm trying to install Kubuntu that I should ask here..
[10:15] <gigasoft> ssh="/etc/mercurial/hgrc.d/" - ssh -i "/home/emir/Private/EmirRepositorijum/emir_private_key_putty.ppk"
[12:00] <liekzomg> anyone know how to get default capture device preferences to save? i can reorder them and click apply but if i leave and come back they haven't actually changed
[12:02] <liekzomg> ah nm, it's only a bug in beta 2, will wait for release
[12:17] <JuJuBee> I have a server currently connected to my lan and isp. It is my gateway, dhcp server, firewall, etc... I need to connect to another network. Added card and when I set the card to dhcp, it gets same IP as my internal NIC.  Can someone assist me with configuring it?
[12:54] <mycle> Hi, i have installed kubuntu some days ago and now i've got a problem. I'm using two screens, which have different resolutions, but every time I reboot, the resolutions get reseted. Any advice?
[12:55] <bazhang> !find randr
[12:55] <bazhang> !info arandr
[12:56] <mycle> ok thx i'll try the packages
[12:58] <mycle> i've saved the layout, and it'll get loaded automatically when i reboot or do i have to change something first?
[13:01] <mila> Hi everyone.... I Wanted to ask you one question , it it isnt a problem... I cant find Turn off button in my Kubuntu? Any tips?
[13:02] <darkrex1986> Hey somebody there for answering me a little question?
[13:02] <mila> Hi everyone.... I Wanted to ask you one question , it it isnt a problem... I cant find Turn off button in my Kubuntu? Any tips?
[13:03] <darkrex1986> @mila normaly its in your kmenu
[13:04] <darkrex1986> @mila try Kmenu => leave => shutdown
[13:04] <mila> @darkrex1986 I have only logoff hibrenate and switch user
[13:05] <mycle> ok I rebooted but it still came up as a clone of the first screen with reseted resolutions
[13:06] <darkrex1986> @mila witch version are you currently runnig ? 10.10?
[13:06] <mycle> yes
[13:07] <mila> @darex1986 Yes Maverik... I had Gnome then i installed the KDE
[13:10] <Feldegast> mila do you have the kmenu? it is in there... there is also a button for lock/power you can add
[13:11] <darkrex1986> @mila i think thats the problem, do you want to use kde permanetly ? or is it just for playing around with it ? because if you want to use kde productive i would prefer to install kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[13:12] <mila> I have menu for kubuntu... but how to see if it is kmenu?
[13:13] <mila> I have leave with hibrnate, sleep logoff swithch and thats all
[13:14] <mila> Is there any terminal Command that i can use to turn off comp to make it like script or something?
[13:14] <darkrex1986> @mila sure sudo halt
[13:15] <darkrex1986> @mila or sudo reboot for reboot
[13:15] <mila> ok thanks i appriciated
[13:15] <darkrex1986> np
[13:18] <darkrex1986> did somebody know if today is patch day or something like? Cause my KPackageKit told me to upgrade 168 Files, including kde-base and so on
[13:45] <hyndra> i downloaded vmware from oracle and install it but it doesnt work...
[13:45] <hyndra> like qemu and virtualbox
[13:45] <hyndra> any sugestion
[13:45] <DarthFrog> Oracle doesn't do VMWare, it does VirtualBox.
[13:46] <DarthFrog> And virtualbox-ose is in the repos.
[13:46] <hyndra> il check
[13:46] <hyndra> yes
[13:47] <hyndra> none of the virtual machines work  .  tahts   wierd
[13:47] <hyndra> it rusns but when i create a virtual machine it stays ... and stays .....
[13:47] <hyndra> a lot ...   it creates  i run and it stays  black
[13:47] <hyndra> on vmware
[13:48] <hyndra> the others dont even create the vdisk
[13:50] <hyndra> what could be .. im new on this
[13:53] <DarthFrog> No idea, sorry. I'd try purging the VMWare install and re-installing it.
[13:56] <hyndra> ok thanks
[13:59] <DarthFrog> How much RAM do you have in your machine and how much are you alloting to the virtual machine?  Are you driving your system into swapping/thrashing?
[14:48] <vikas_> hello
[14:59] <silentgh0st> hi
[15:06] <mycle> Hi, does anyone has an advice where i can find a good how-to for setting up en xorg.conf file, cause i'm using a grphiccard and an on-board chip
[15:06] <James147> mycle: what graphics card?
[15:07] <James147> mycle: ^^ most no longer need an xorg.conf file and it is becomming deprcated
[15:08] <mycle> one is an readon 5670 and the onboard chip is a nvidia, but i look it up in a second
[15:09] <James147> lspci | grep VGA   should tell you which chipset
[15:09] <mycle> 1024 MB ATI Radeon HD 5670
[15:09] <mycle> ok thx
[15:09] <James147> but if its nvidia then use the nvidia tools to configure it, dont create an xorg.conf manually :p "sudo nvidia-xconfig" will create an xorg.conf file and "kdesudo nvidia-settings" will let you configure it
[15:10] <James147> ^^ though that wont work for ati
[15:10] <mycle> nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]
[15:10] <James147> ati has similar tools but I do not know them
[15:11] <James147> ^^ that is assuming you want to use the proprity drivers, the open ones dont need an xorg.conf
[15:12] <mycle> ok cool, and yes the other problem is i have connected on screen to the nvidia chip and two screens to the ati card, but every time i reboot the resolution of the two ati screen is set back to 1024x768 and the are clones of each other instead of extends like i configured in the session befor
[15:12] <mycle> ah ok
[15:13] <mycle> nvidia-xconfig isnt installed yet
[15:13] <mycle> in which package do i find it?
[15:14] <James147> mycle: it is installed with the nvidia drivers
[15:15] <James147> mycle: though i dont know how the tools with work with each other... i have never seen someone use two different graphics cards before :p
[15:15] <James147> (at least from different manufactures)
[15:15] <mycle> ok but till now the screen connected to the nvidia chip isn't used so i guess the drivers hadn't been installed by default, only the drivers for the ati card
[15:16] <mycle> xD yes, maybe it's a bit strange
[15:16] <James147> mycle: the other possibaility (which i find more likly) is that you cannot use tow different cards at once .... I have never seen it done or know if it possible tjhough
[15:16] <James147> and the open driver should be installed
[15:16] <mycle> on windows it worked out pretty well, and when windows can do it im sure there is a solution on linux too
[15:17] <mr-rich> is anyone else having dbus-daemon eat up a shitload of CPU cycles?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:54] <surunveri> hi is there anyway to open Word documents on kubuntu?
[15:54] <James147> surunveri: openoffice
[15:54] <BluesKaj> surunveri, install open office or libre office
[15:55] <James147> BluesKaj: do you need to install it?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> surunveri, look in the kmenu /apps/ office ...it might be there
[15:59] <BluesKaj> James147, hmm, now I'm not sure if it's installed by default , memory fails me
[16:00] <James147> BluesKaj: I think openoffice is before natty, and lier on natty, though i am unsure about natty :p
[16:00] <James147> liber
[16:00] <James147> ^^
[16:02] <BluesKaj> OO is Libre on natty , James147
[16:02] <James147> BluesKaj: thats what I thought... and I presume it would be isntalled by default
[16:03] <BluesKaj> and you're correct , OO is installed by default on 10.10
[16:07] <surunveri> hmm so how do i install OO?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> I seldom use OO ...had enuff of office suites when i was still working...in my real work I always found them totally unecessaryand a pita tho I had to use them for lab reports etc I still hated them
[16:08] <James147> BluesKaj: i use latex when i need to do reports :)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> surunveri, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install openoffice
[16:08] <James147> surunveri: it should be install already if your on 10.10 or eairler
[16:09] <surunveri> hmm that doesnt owrk
[16:09] <James147> !details
[16:09] <surunveri> it ujst says no such package
[16:10] <James147> surunveri: check your menu, it should already be installed (under application > office .... there should be one called "word processor" or similar)
[16:11] <surunveri> there's a menu called office
[16:11] <surunveri> but there isnt a word processor.. unless you mean okular?
[16:11] <James147> no... hmm
[16:12] <James147> surunveri: what version of kubuntu?
[16:12] <surunveri> i dont remember
[16:12] <surunveri> :D
[16:12] <James147> then try "openoffice.org"
[16:12] <surunveri> i installed it 1 year ago
[16:12] <surunveri> which i hope i hadnt done though :D
[16:12] <surunveri> but it's too late now
[16:13] <James147> ^^ install that is, try installing openoffice.org
[16:14] <surunveri> yeah that works
[16:14] <surunveri> =)
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !info nomodeset
[16:30]  * BluesKaj realizes that nomodeset isn't a package but I thought there might be a factoid about using it
[16:32] <James147> BluesKaj: then dont use info ^^ from what i can see that only looks up info about packages
[16:34] <BluesKaj> James147, well the !nomodeset doesn't give any info either :)
[16:35] <James147> then i guess there isnt any info :(
[16:36] <BluesKaj> I wish there were factoids with small tutorials
[16:36] <BluesKaj> do this do that in case of....
[16:37] <Pici> BluesKaj: feel free to submit them, or write a wiki page and submit that to the bot.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Pici, yeah , there are some on the google-linux searches , but I'm sure there's a required evaluation etc
[16:48] <liekzomg> can anyone help me get multiple xservers running on startup? i think i want the Xservers file but can't find anything with that name
[16:48] <BluesKaj> liekzomg, do you mean multiple screens ?
[16:49] <DarthFrog> Or multiple users?
[16:49] <liekzomg> BluesKaj: No, multiple users, like alt+f8 for 2nd kdm
[16:49] <James147> liekzomg: why not use "switch user"?
[16:50] <DarthFrog> liekzomg: Try the "Leave" menu item.  It has a "Switch User" option to do what you want.
[16:50] <liekzomg> sorry guys but I really do want multiple xservers, not just the ability to change users
[16:51] <James147> liekzomg: switch users starts a new x session ^^
[16:52] <liekzomg> James147: cool, anyway I can get it on startup without having to login?
[16:53] <James147> liekzomg: not sure
[16:54]  * DarthFrog just found out that right-clicking on the desktop and selecting "Leave" boots him out of KDE and doesn't bring up the Leave menu. :-)
[16:54] <liekzomg> James147: TY anyway man, it's a starting point :)
[16:54] <James147> DarthFrog: i think you can toggle that
[16:55] <James147> (like just about everything in kde :D )
[16:55] <DarthFrog> James147:  I probably toggled it to that behaviour and forgot I had done so.  That's exactly the kind of thing I'd do. :-)
[16:59] <mr-rich> When ever I use my mouse wheel on the desktop, it switches virtual desktops ... where do I turn this off?
[16:59] <mr-rich> It's really annoying ...
[17:00] <woife> mr-rich: right-click on desktop
[17:00] <woife> desktop settings
[17:00] <woife> mouse actions
[17:01] <woife> delete/change vertical scroll
[17:01] <DarthFrog> It might be called Folder View Settings instead of Desktop Settings.
[17:02] <woife> oh, i forgot to ask what desktop environment you use. my commands would be for kde. sorry for that.
[17:03] <DarthFrog> woife: So am I.
[17:04] <James147> woife: given this is the kubuntu channel it generally safe to assume they are using kde :)
[17:04] <woife> :)
[17:05] <mr-rich> woife: That worked ... ty ... and being that this is #kubuntu, I'm using KDE ...
[17:11] <Quiquedsti> hola a todos
[17:12] <Quiquedsti> alguien me podría ayudar con los parámetros de inicio VGA=xxx, ya que mi monitor no puede mostrar mas de 800x600
[17:13] <maco> !es | Quiquedsti
[17:15] <Quiquedsti> OK. Somebody can help me please. I need help with boot parameter VGA=xxx. my monitor don't show more than 800x600
[17:16] <guest09876> My old ipod died on me now im trying to use my iphone for my music with linux I can get the phone to mount through usd (I dont have my bluetooth on me now) I can pull photos off it but when i open a application to sync my iphone with like rhythmbox it finds it then closes down real fast
[17:22] <mila> Hey all :)) Can any1 tell me  where can i find list of compatible games for Linux for exapmle like GTA, or similar  hight budget games,?
[17:22] <mila> Any1?
[17:23] <James147> GTA isnt a linux compatable game ^^
[17:23] <James147> mila: it can be run through wine, so if your looking for similar games then i suggest wines appdb
[17:23] <James147> !wine
[17:36] <Chris_H> Hi, what is the command to open google chrome with a specific page?
[17:36] <Chris_H> Any idea?
[17:37] <James147> Chris_H: "chromium page"
[17:37] <James147> ie chromium www.google.com
[17:38] <guest09876> http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95314
[17:38] <guest09876> at chris
[17:39] <Chris_H> James147: ok, thanks
[17:39] <guest09876> uh command?
[17:39] <guest09876> uh ignore me
[17:40] <James147> Chris_H: run "chromium --help" for more info
[17:41] <Linkmaster> Anyone happen to know the best way to get around a bittorrent block that a school server places? =P
[17:41] <James147> tor ^^
[17:41] <Linkmaster> I tried that D:
[17:41] <James147> Linkmaster: though they can still tell its bittorrent traffic if they look jhard enough
[17:41] <Linkmaster> The only thing that works is ultrasurf, but I can't configure any torrenting to work with it
[17:42] <Chris_H> James147: Thanks. And how do I play a sound? I have the sound file, but I do not know the command
[17:42] <Chris_H> I am configuring a plasmoid
[17:42] <James147> Chris_H: "aplay --help"
[17:43] <James147> which plasmoid?
[17:45] <Chris_H> lol the timer app. I am doing a online project and I am trying to time it and I would like to play a sound when it times out.
[17:45] <Chris_H> KDE quite cool
[17:46] <Linkmaster> Whats yoru favorite point of KDE?
[17:46] <Chris_H> Plasma desktop, activities and the virtual desktop. All come in handy very well
[17:47] <Linkmaster> I agree with that. The plasma desktop is..powerful, to say the least. Someone knows what they are doing, the sky is pretty much the limits
[17:50] <Chris_H> And most of all, Kubuntu seems to boot and work faster than Windows 7. Thats why switched over, I hate waiting...
[17:52] <Linkmaster> It does, I tried it on my netbook that I'm running right now. Well, in theory that is: XP boots faster then 7 does, and I tested it out; XP took ~36 seconds to the login screen, and an additional minute for the desktop to load up to functional use. Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE4.6.2 took ~24 seconds to KDM, with an additional 20 some seconds for the splash and functional desktop to load
[17:57] <Chris_H> hmm, I am using KDE 4.5, and I think mine boots quicker than that. ( about 9 seconds from grub to login)
[17:58] <Linkmaster> I'm also using a netbook thats a good two years old
[17:58] <James147> and are you measuring from power on or from grub Linkmaster?
[17:58] <Linkmaster> My RAM tops out at 992MiB
[17:59] <Linkmaster> I'm measuring from hitting enter on the partition I want to start from grub
[18:04] <Chris_H> is kde.org down?
[18:04] <Linkmaster> I need to get some food, talk to you guys in a bit. Though, before I put 4.6 on my computer, I noticed that 4.5 was more glitchy. Just observations though
[18:04] <Linkmaster> I believe it could be, its not loading for me
[18:05] <Chris_H> ok
[18:26] <Linkmaster> I'm back
[19:12] <BlouBlou> anyone knows why my PC has a lot of kio_http openned, and when I open rekonq, it begins working slow? if I close, it continues working slow, so I have no idea what's the problem
[19:41] <BlouBlou> guys, any good guitar's tablatures/partitures editor and plauer like TuxGuitar but for KDE?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou, I had a problem with "speech-dispatch". It would launch and use up 80-100% of my cpu , so I deleted it , but I see it's back after several updates..it no longer hogs the cpu
[19:45] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou, what about windows apps for tablature that run on wine
[19:46] <BlouBlou> for example guitar pro? No thanks, I really dislike it
[19:47] <beppe> hi. i have accidentally deleted some important file. now, after the logon, i can only see a black screen. i need your help
[19:48] <beppe> i have probably uninstalled some desktop package
[19:49] <fragileX> So what important files did you delete
[19:50] <BluesKaj> beppe, are you on the livecd ?
[19:50] <Daskreech> BlouBlou: Yes there was one
[19:51] <Daskreech> I cannot recall the name though
[19:51] <beppe> fragileX: i didnt properly delete a file, probaby i have uninstalled some plasma package
[19:51] <beppe> BluesKaj: i'm on another pc
[19:51] <Daskreech> beppe: what did you do?
[19:51] <Daskreech> You said you deleted then you said you uninstalled
[19:51] <Daskreech> that's two different things with  different fixes
[19:52] <BluesKaj> beppe, uninstalling a plasma package likely will not cause your problem, it's related to your graphics driver or HW
[19:53] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  If he uninstalled plasma-desktop,it could cause the black screen.
[19:54] <beppe> Daskreech: there was a group of blocked updates. the package which blocked them was kscreensavers-xsavers, or something like that. I wanted totemporary  uninstall it, and the system asked me to uninstall other packages. i accepted...
[19:54] <Daskreech> beppe: can You login to the command line on that computer?
[19:54] <beppe> now i'm in the recovery mode
[19:54] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, uhmm yeah , but I doubt that's what he did
[19:55] <beppe> BluesKaj: probably that's what i did, instead!..
[19:55] <Daskreech> beppe: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:55] <beppe> i'm in front of the cl
[19:55] <BluesKaj> beppe, then do the above ^  :)
[19:55] <DarthFrog> Daskreech:  sudo apt-get .... :-)
[19:56] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: recovery mode drops you in as root
[19:56] <DarthFrog> Daskreech:  It does?  Well, live and learn. :-)
[19:56] <Daskreech> beppe: It should say it's installing a set of packages
[19:56] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Break and learn
[19:57] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: The School of Hard Knocks is indeed an excellent teacher. :-)
[19:57] <beppe> It says it's impossible to reach the webserver, and recover packages
[19:58] <DarthFrog> beppe: Try "service networking start" first.
[19:58] <beppe> i'm not with the last kubuntu
[19:58] <James147> beppe: do you have a wired or wireless connection?
[19:59] <beppe> DarthFrog: i should write this on the cl?
[19:59] <beppe> James147: wireless.
[19:59] <DarthFrog> Wireless?  It won't work. :-(
[19:59] <James147> beppe: can you easly get a wired connection?
[19:59] <beppe> sure
[20:00] <James147> beppe: its possible to connect via wireless, but its allot more complacated on the comand line :0
[20:01] <beppe> ok now i'm cabled
[20:02] <James147> beppe: try rerunning the command Daskreech gave you
[20:03] <DarthFrog> And if you're still unable to connect, try the service command I gave earlier.
[20:03] <beppe> ok, it's downloading...
[20:03] <MK``> How many partitions can I have on a disk with MBR? 4? (3 primary and 1 extended?)
[20:03] <DarthFrog> MK``:  Yes
[20:03] <James147> MK``: 4 primary... way more then you need logical
[20:03] <MK``> :P ok thanks
[20:03] <DarthFrog> James147:  4 primary allows for no logical.
[20:04] <James147> ^^ yeah, ment at most 4 primary ^^
[20:04] <MK``> and I can have as many logical within the extended?
[20:04] <James147> but each primary can be an extended and hole allot more logical
[20:04] <Daskreech> MK``: in theory yes but most implementations cap you at 255
[20:05] <MK``> :O not too many situations where "FF" can be both accurate and an expression of frustration
[20:05] <MK``> but thanks
[20:05] <beppe> it asks for replacing kdmrc file with the default one
[20:05] <Daskreech> You can just run bsd tools and cut your disk up into thousands of partitions
[20:05] <DarthFrog> beppe: That's fine
[20:05] <James147> beppe: say yes to reset kdm to its default settings
[20:05] <James147> beppe: no otherwise
[20:05] <Daskreech> beppe: Did you change your kdm file?
[20:05] <Daskreech> if you didn't then replacing is ok
[20:05] <beppe> dont even know what it is....
[20:06] <James147> beppe: the login maanger
[20:06] <Daskreech> beppe: I should clarify
[20:06] <Daskreech> beppe: that' the login screen
[20:06] <James147> beppe: if you changed it at all and want to keep your settings say no
[20:06] <Daskreech> did you change the theme or anything on it?
[20:06] <beppe> ok, i give Y
[20:06] <Daskreech> if you just changed the theme you can just redo that after
[20:07] <Daskreech> if you don't remember changing anything then replacing with the default is a safe move
[20:07] <Daskreech> don't know if it's sage but  ... :)
[20:07] <beppe> ok, it finished. should i reboot? i give halt or something similar?
[20:07] <Daskreech> beppe: if you exit recovery mode it should ask if you want to continue a normal boot
[20:07] <Daskreech> so try that
[20:08] <DarthFrog> Just press CTL-D.
[20:08] <beppe> so how do i exit recovery mode? it's the first time i sue it..
[20:08] <DarthFrog> CTL-D
[20:08] <James147> beppe: ctrl+d or type "logout" or "exit"
[20:08] <Daskreech> MK``: If you do cut up your disks into a few thousand partitions can you for a laugh format them as FAT32 then boot into windows and watch it freak out? :) thanks
[20:08] <James147> not logout... sorry :0
[20:08] <Daskreech> beppe: exit
[20:08] <MK``> eh
[20:09] <Daskreech> beppe: or press Ctrl+D
[20:09] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: You're evil!  I like that in you.  :-)
[20:13] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Windows is so restrictive and inconsistent it is a source of yearly amusement and amazement for me
[20:14] <Daskreech> Apple is restrictive but only in it's front end tools and almost never arbitrarily. It is very consistent though
[20:14] <Daskreech> Linux is totally unrestricted and wildly inconsistent but at least it's consistent in that respect :)
[20:15] <Daskreech> MK``: Sorry did I lose you somewhere? I can explain if you like
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, and Apple is extremely proprietary
[20:15] <MK``> no I got it all
[20:15] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: No they are not
[20:16] <MK``> I was just repartitioning a disk and wanted to know the limit :P
[20:16] <BluesKaj> oh?
[20:16] <Linkmaster> Personally, I'd love to watch a Windows machine freak out. It gives me hours of fun
[20:16] <MK``> This is a 250GB disk I just lost all the data on... so I am formatting and repartitioning it.
[20:16] <Linkmaster> Well, if your doing that, you can spend the extra couple hours to install windows, cut it into a million peices, and give us the rundown of M$'s heart attack :P
[20:17] <Daskreech> MK``: Ouch did you run testdisk on it?
[20:17] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: The kernel and about 1/4 of the core aspects of Apple are all open
[20:18] <MK``> Daskreech: it's entirely encrypted, so either the volume header got corrupted, or my memory failed me since the password was very complex. I honestly don't know which it was, but it wasn't taking my password
[20:18] <Daskreech> Webkit of course is open but KDE/GPL forced them to do that
[20:18] <MK``> so I just formatted it, I can't be arsed to stress over it
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, compared to MS,  Apple certainly is
[20:18] <beppe> DarthFrog: James147: Daskreech: all is working now. thank you so much
[20:18] <Daskreech> MK``: Oh dear. That's always been my worry about encryption. recovery in disaster
[20:18] <Daskreech> beppe: You ar welcome
[20:18] <DarthFrog> beppe: Glad to hear it.
[20:19]  * BluesKaj suspects Daskreech is an Imac/Ipad owner :)
[20:19] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Keep a copy of your key on a USB stick.
[20:19] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: No specifically in comparison to MS they are not. The core working aspects of MS are all closed. The core working aspects of Apple are all open
[20:19] <Daskreech> However Apple is selling you the pretty parts at the end
[20:20] <Daskreech> In KDE speak they are not selling you Ubuntu server they are selling you Plasma
[20:20] <BluesKaj> uhmm yeah, and that's what I mant
[20:20] <BluesKaj> meant
[20:20] <Daskreech> For MS none of that stack is open or ever will be
[20:20] <MK``> what I'm going to do instead is just use encrypted file containers :/
[20:20] <DarthFrog> And if the Mac OS X wasn't based on Darwin (which itself is based on FreeBSD), then even that would be completely closed.
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, but do we care ...I'm talking about apps etc
[20:21] <Daskreech> plus they have taken steps to stop you from rebuilding it even if you wanted to
[20:21] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: MS doesn't have that many open apps. certainly not any consumer ones worth anything
[20:21] <Linkmaster> Personally, I like Linux. It results in zero issues from anybody other then yourself
[20:22] <DarthFrog> Apple is a very stylish, charming, handsome tyrant.  But tyrant nontheless.
[20:22] <Daskreech> I've always taken MS open sourcing something as either they want to get someone inside of MS to stop working on it so that would appease them or they want brownie points
[20:22] <BluesKaj> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10113278-16.html , for those who are interested
[20:22] <Linkmaster> ^Valid point
[20:23] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: actually Apple a) chose to use BSD though they had a closed system and b) can still have it propietary on a BSD system since the BSD license allows this.
[20:23] <DarthFrog> And Ubuntu is trying to become a very stylish, charming and handsome freedom fighter. :-)
[20:23] <Daskreech> Windows Vista is built on BSD tech but it's more closed than Apple OSX
[20:24] <MK``> What bugs me more is Google using openness as a selling point when the Android really isn't all that open :/
[20:24] <Linkmaster> Ubuntu IS stylish, charming, and it certainly is worrying MS/Apple
[20:24] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: a) that's opinion b) that's on the mobile devices :)
[20:24] <ebrahim> who is from iran?
[20:24] <ebrahim> who is from iran?
[20:24] <ebrahim> who is from iran?
[20:24] <ebrahim> who is from iran?
[20:24] <FloodBotK1> ebrahim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <ebrahim> hello all
[20:25] <ebrahim> hellllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:25] <ebrahim> baba salam kardamaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:25] <ebrahim> kasy khune nist
[20:25] <ebrahim> ?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, guess I should have specified...wasn't referring to the unix /bsd aspects
[20:26] <ebrahim> blueskaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaj
[20:26] <ebrahim> Hello
[20:26] <DarthFrog> !ir | ebrahim
[20:26] <BluesKaj> ebrahim, it's ok w see you
[20:26] <Linkmaster> Gotta go, laters guys
[20:27] <ebrahim> look
[20:27] <ebrahim> i dont speak english
[20:27] <ebrahim> :(
[20:27] <Daskreech> !ir | ebrahim
[20:27] <ebrahim> can you speak persain
[20:27] <Daskreech> ebrahim: #ubuntu-ir
[20:27] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: ah in that case maybe
[20:28] <Spaz_Dynamic> So, kubuntu isn't seeing my wireless NIC, it seems. I know it's linux compatible, puppy supports it out of the box.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Spaz_Dynamic, which chip ?
[20:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> lspci reports bcm4318
[20:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> fw-cutter or something?
[20:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> I don't remember the driver, but someone told me it once
[20:30]  * BluesKaj detests knetworkmanager, it's giving bkubuntu a bad rap :\
[20:30] <DarthFrog> b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[20:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> either way, I was pretty sure that ubuntu would fetch drivers when you did an update, but kubuntu apparently didn't cause it's not working xD
[20:30] <BluesKaj> kubuntu even
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[20:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> ugh, I hated trying to make that work. I did it once before. it took me days to get nothing done, and then I migrated my PC to an ethernet connection and ubuntu fetched the driver and it worked in just a minute. Why isn't kubuntu doing the same?
[20:33] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: try running "hardware drivers" (from the menu, or run jockey-kde)
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Spaz_Dynamic, kubuntu works fine with etherenet , it just has wifi issues
[20:35] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having some difficulty mounting a Samba share as writable on my local drive. Is there anyone who could help me, please?
[20:36] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: Ah, that's what I was forgetting to do. Sorry guys. xD
[20:36] <SeanTater> Is there a right way to find resource paths, such as /usr/share/kde4/apps? I'm using kde4-config but it seems tacky
[20:36] <Spaz_Dynamic> and the driver for my ATI gfx card listed there is the one I need too, I assume?
[20:36] <James147> SeanTater: for waht purpose?
[20:37] <SeanTater> I have an xml file there I need to access at runtime
[20:37] <James147> SeanTater: what language?
[20:37] <SeanTater> kkerwin: Try installing kdenetwork-filesharing, it makes it much easier
[20:37] <SeanTater> James147: python
[20:38] <Daskreech> Broadcom FOSS drivers are coming in the next two kernels \o/!
[20:38] <Spaz_Dynamic> were they doing away with the kde wallet in natty?
[20:38] <kkerwin> SeanTater: Thanks. I'm currently ssh'd into the local machine, configuring the samba share on it. Do you know of a CLI method, instead?
[20:38] <Daskreech> Spaz_Dynamic: doubtful. You can uninstall it
[20:38] <Spaz_Dynamic> Daskreech: sweet
[20:39] <Daskreech> Nothing relies on it (I think) that's not security based
[20:39] <Spaz_Dynamic> Daskreech: ah, hmm, how necessary is it? I seem to recall it popping up constantly
[20:39] <Spaz_Dynamic> ah
[20:39] <Daskreech> Spaz_Dynamic: Give it an empty password and say allow always and it goes away forever
[20:39] <James147> SeanTater: possibally you can do it by useing KStandardDirs though I am not sure
[20:39] <SeanTater> kkerwin: Actually, no, I don't. But SSH does X11 forwarding (with ssh -X) so you could still run a GUI program and see it on whichever screen you're working on
[20:39] <Daskreech> Spaz_Dynamic: it's not needed at all. if you stop using it then all your passwords just get saved in plain text in a file is all
[20:40] <SeanTater> James147: OK, I'll check that out. Thanks
[20:40] <Spaz_Dynamic> Daskreech: I did the empty password method. xD
[20:40] <kkerwin> SeanTater: Actually, in all of my 11 years of using Linux, I've never tried setting up X11 forwarding ... ...
[20:40] <SeanTater> kkerwin: It's miraculously easy
[20:41] <Daskreech> Spaz_Dynamic: and allow always that should take care of it until a new app asks to keep it's password there
[20:41] <SeanTater> kkerwin: just use the -X option when you log in and then type it in like any other program.
[20:42] <kkerwin> SeanTater, Holy shit!!
[20:42] <SeanTater> kkerwin: ;) I don't think I've ever heard someone that excited about that feature
[20:44] <kkerwin> SeanTater, Ok. What's the CLI program name for "kdenetwork-filesharing". I just installed it, now to run it ...
[20:45] <SeanTater> "systemsettings" will get you all of them. It should be easy to find
[20:45] <James147> kkerwin: i think it s a module for kcmshell4  --list will show all the options
[20:45] <James147> probally kcmshell4 filesharing   or samba
[20:46] <SeanTater> That'd work too
[20:46] <kkerwin> SeanTater, I think I'm in.
[20:49] <SeanTater> kkerwin: good to hear
[20:49] <SeanTater> James147: Thanks a bunch, that's just what I needed!
[20:50] <James147> :)
[21:16] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to prevent kopete using kde notifications?
[21:17] <James147> BlouBlou: then what notifications system would it use?
[21:19] <BlouBlou> James147: well, for example, when a friend talks, I would like to get kopete's icon moving, but not kde notifications and a bar like windows' msn showing up from notifications-app
[21:20] <BlouBlou> James147: is that possible to do?
[21:21] <BATi> BlouBlou: you can try disabling message indicator plugin in kopete's config...
[21:21] <BlouBlou> BATi: how to do it?
[21:21] <BlouBlou> oh...
[21:21] <BlouBlou> BATi: I did it, but it continues showing up messages
[21:22] <BATi> BlouBlou: did you restart kopete? message indicator plugin is unchecked?
[21:29] <BlouBlou> BATi: I restarted it and it's disabled, yes. But still the same problem
[21:30] <James147> BlouBlou: If your just tring to stop the popups  then System settings > notifications > kopete ... and turn off the ones you dont want
[21:30] <James147> (kopete probally has a shortcut to that location in its menus)
[21:33] <BlouBlou> James147: cool, thanks a lot :-)
[21:35] <Daskreech> BlouBlou: almost all apps have a Settings -> Configure notifications
[21:36] <James147> Daskreech: at least almost all that have notifications :)
[21:36] <Daskreech> ^^^ that truth that he just said
[22:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> OK, I can't get kubuntu to actually set the resolution. It's stuck (meaning it resets as soon as I hit apply) at 1024x768 and I'm trying to get them to 1280x1024 and as a shared desktop instead of cloned... help?
[22:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> an interesting note is that if I set crt1 and not crt2, it will change that one. but if I then change crt2, they both reset to 1027x768, and i can't change crt1 again
[22:11] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: what graphics card?
[22:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: its an ATI 3650
[22:12] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: the open or proprity drivers?
[22:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> er, more specifically, I think it's called ATI Radeon HD 3650
[22:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> I just used what the additional drivers thing proposed.
[22:14] <James147> !ati
[22:17] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: sorry I cant be mroe help, I have never used a ati card and dont know their config tools
[22:18] <Spaz_Dynamic> oh, thats no problem. I'm reading along. xD
[22:18] <Spaz_Dynamic> I'm also wondering if kubuntu is normally this slow =X
[22:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> It didn't seem like it used to be
[22:21] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: it isnt normally slow ^^
[22:21] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: but I would not worry about that untill after you configure the drivers as they could be why its slow
[22:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: Yeah, thats part of what I'm thinking. There is just some problem(s) within that causing it to be sluggish. My computer should be able to handle KDE fine. 2.8 Ghz, hyperthreading, 3 GB ram
[22:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> uh.. some blur just popped up on the bottom right corner of the screen...
[22:25] <Spaz_Dynamic> its not going away, and the KDE pannel seems to have frozen.
[22:26] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: did you see my last message?
[22:26] <James147> nop
[22:27] <James147> atleast I dont think so
[22:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> [17:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: Yeah, thats part of what I'm thinking. There is just some problem(s) within that causing it to be sluggish. My computer should be able to handle KDE fine. 2.8 Ghz, hyperthreading, 3 GB ram
[22:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> [17:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> uh.. some blur just popped up on the bottom right corner of the screen...
[22:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> [17:25] <Spaz_Dynamic> its not going away, and the KDE pannel seems to have frozen.
[22:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> wait... its popping up a status bar for something.
[22:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> I think it's just impossibly bogged down
[22:30] <James147> :S
[22:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> oh man.. xD
[22:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> this is hilarious
[22:33] <Spaz_Dynamic> ... oooh, I think I know what is going on, I told amarok to load my old music directory. for whatever reason, thats insanely processor intensive. .. foobar2000 never had any problems doing it >.>
[22:34] <James147> :(
[22:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> why do you keep getting disconnected?
[22:34] <James147> not entirly sure
[22:36] <Spaz_Dynamic> ah. well, is there any way I can kill this process, or set its nice value higher?
[22:36] <Spaz_Dynamic> specifically via terminal or a shortcut to bring up a process monitor (since the panel is semi-frozen
[22:37] <Spaz_Dynamic> oh, it figures that by the time I ask that it starts behaving properly.
[22:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> ... I don't remember setting up a root password, and a program needs to be run as root
[22:47] <Linkmaster> try typing in your regular password - though be worry about running unkown programs
[22:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> Linkmaster: I know the program, its the proprietary driver program for my graphics
[22:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> and I have, and it doesn't work. It's doing su, not sudo
[22:48] <Linkmaster> Hm :l
[22:49] <Spaz_Dynamic> and I don't know the name of the program to call it from terminal
[22:49] <Linkmaster> I've never dealt with su, I thought it was lacking in of a password to prevent one from being there. Perhaps if you tried to create one in a terminal, that might help
[22:51] <Spaz_Dynamic> there, sudo passwd root, then made a pass. hopefully doing so didn't mess anything up, though I don't know why it would have.
[22:52] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: you shouldnt need to enable a root password...
[22:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: I have the control center for my graphics driver and to make any changes I need to run it as root, and when I click that, it attempts to do su
[22:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> note that I said do "su" not failed typing "sudo"
[22:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> something is wrong with root's password
[22:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> mainly that hitting enter for a blank password (when I just deleted the password) doesn't work
[22:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> er, wait
[23:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> never mind. that was me being dumb
[23:00] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: allot of automated attacks are agienst the week passwords on the root account ^^ and there is no need to have a root password at all when you have sudo, thus disabling the root acount logins improves security... at least slightly :)
[23:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> yeah
[23:00] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: you can disable an acount with the -l  argument os passwd
[23:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> but how do I run this program when it calls su and not sudo
[23:01] <James147> (ie sudo passwd -l root)
[23:02] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: if you do need to login to root you can do it with sudo -i  or sudo -s
[23:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> and besides, I always thought sudo was a security hole in itself. it makes any user able to have root do something, and the more users a system has, the more passwords can access root, in essence
[23:03] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: which program?
[23:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: but I don't know the program name, and draging the link to bash and typing sudo infront of it returns command not found. Unless I didn't specify sudo, then it says permission denied
[23:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> it's the catalyst control center for my ATI card
[23:04] <James147> Spaz_Dynamic: and no, in kubuntu only user in the admin group are able to use sudo, by default tahts the first user and no other users get added to in unless done by that user
[23:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: ah, ok. didn't know that
[23:10] <Keshl> Is this a good place to ask for help with Wubi? I'm not sure if I should ask here since I'm trying to install Kubuntu, or in #ubuntu.
[23:15] <James147> Keshl: if your unsure then jsut ask, we will direct you to where can answer
[23:16] <Keshl> Okay. For some reason, whoever made Wubi overlooked a serious design flaw. The installer refuses to install the ISO into the virtual hard drive after successfully downloading it due to a version mis-match. After investigation, I found that it's downloading a daily build. What do I do?
[23:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> James147: since you're having connection issues, here is what he just said: <Keshl> Okay. For some reason, whoever made Wubi overlooked a serious design flaw. The installer refuses to install the ISO into the virtual hard drive after successfully downloading it due to a version mis-match. After investigation, I found that it's downloading a daily build. What do I do?
[23:20] <James147> Keshl: yeah, #ubuntu might be better able to answer that
[23:20] <Keshl> Okay, thanks.
[23:28] <Daskreech> Keshl: what is the version mismatch?
[23:29] <Keshl> It wants 10.0.10.1, it's getting 10.0.10.2 or something similar.
[23:30] <Keshl> I don't remember the exact text, just that it had two 10's, and a third octet, and it wanted a 1 but got a 2.
[23:54] <Linkmaster> Back guys
[23:55] <Keshl> wb owo
[23:56] <Linkmaster> owo?
[23:57] <sysdoc> Fresh install of KDE 4.6 and krunner seg faults over and over, I have seen probably 100 or more crash notifications. Has anyone got any info on this behavior?
[23:58] <goodtime> you might have dpkg running in the background sysdoc
[23:59] <goodtime> or someother thing doing the same
[23:59] <goodtime> killall