[00:04] <hajour1> AlanBell,  if i try to enlarge the fonts by google mail the fonts go be unreadable
[00:04] <hajour1> with using ctrl +
[00:36] <hajour1> goodnight all
[07:19] <Fudge> natty beta2, after unmuting and loading orca, restarting desktop i got to the slideshow part of isntall using unity and didnt know where to go from there
[07:19] <Fudge> any ideas
[09:23] <ubuntu> hey
[09:28] <AlanBell> hi ubuntu 
[09:28] <webczat> i actually always forget that I don't have webczat nick when starting up
[10:19] <webczat> Hmm, what's the reason for the speakup and speakup-sources package to exist in natty?
[10:20] <webczat> I'll clarify: packages are needless because the speakup module is already included in .28
[10:24] <AlanBell> webczat: are they on the CD?
[10:25] <AlanBell> !info speakup natty
[10:25] <webczat> They are present as kernel modules on the cd. espeakup connector is still needed, but modules are not cause they are already there. it's in drivers/staging/speakup.
[10:27]  * AlanBell mentions in #ubuntu-kernel
[10:27] <webczat> Speakup is kernel builtin as of .37.
[10:27] <webczat> And I see it.
[10:29] <webczat> I still do.
[11:04] <webczat> what can it mean if I dd on the hard disk and after few minutes, the system sometimes freezes for few seconds?
[12:12] <webczat> Hey, I have problems with at-spi2.
[12:12] <webczat> The login screen is inaccessible, also things like a logout/shutdown dialogs aren't.
[12:16] <webczat> hmm wait
[14:08] <webczat> How do you correctly install at-spi2? like if I do it, some programs speak, but things like a logout or gdm don't.
[15:39] <webczat> i really don't understand this at-spi2 thing
[16:28] <webczat> Erm, does anyone know why at-spi2 does not read my login screen, and logout/shutdown dialogs?
[16:31] <webczat> they are normally seen as inaccessible
[16:31] <webczat> when at-spi2 is running
[16:33] <webczat> it annoys me
[16:34] <webczat> but I don't know if this is because at-spi is not started when it should, or this if my fault, or what?
[16:34] <webczat> s/if/is
[16:42] <webczat> because I don't know if I need to fill a bug or do something.
[16:45] <maco> TheMuso: rather than always having to edit orca's package, do you think it'd make sense for the orca scripts for various packages to be included in the packages themselves?  that way a package maintainer or an upstream could handle the scripting of that app themself
[17:04] <webczat> maco: i made a qt-at-spi test yesterday
[17:34] <JanC> maco: I think adding them to the application package makes sense for projects that have some person/team that takes care of it (that way PPAs with newer versions also include newer Orca scripts), but what if upstream doesn't care?
[22:55] <TheMuso> maco: Thats not a bad idea actually.