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holsteincoalwater: there might be tools for that00:12
holsteinoutside of the application00:13
holsteini used a cloning application in the ultimate boot cd00:13
holsteinwhich worked well00:13
holsteinhttp://www.ultimatebootcd.com/00:13
coalwaterits just i made a 4gb drive now its not enough i need more00:13
holsteini would call this 'the hard way' ;)00:14
holsteinbut i really only did it the one time00:14
holsteinand i was actually testing the cloning feature for other purposes00:14
coalwaterwhich one should i pick00:15
holsteinyou mean at the UBCD site?00:15
coalwateryea00:15
holsteinthe cloning tools didnt change that much00:15
holsteinyou could use clonezilla too i bet00:16
earthling_Is there a way to shrink the screen size proportionally on firefox?00:16
coz_earthling_,  not sure what you mean00:16
holsteinearthling_: theres a zoom plugin right?00:16
holsteinthere was*00:16
holsteini havent used FF fulltime in a while00:16
coz_earthling_,  you have firefox opended,, and you want to do what with it?00:17
earthling_when you press maximize to get a different window size, but the background is still the same proportion as before00:17
earthling_so you don't see the whole output00:17
coz_earthling_,  can I see a screenshots of before and after?   you can upload to picpaste.com or any you prefer00:17
holsteinyeah, you want to zoom the whole thing00:17
holsteinlike opera does00:17
holsteinor did*00:17
earthling_ah ok00:17
holsteinearthling_: search for zoom add-ons00:18
holsteinone of them will do what you want i bet :)00:18
coalwatercant u just press ctrl with + or -00:18
holsteincoalwater: that just does the text size though right?00:18
earthling_that changes the text size I think00:18
earthling_only00:18
coalwaterok i think there was one i used before00:18
coalwaterdont remember wht it was called00:19
coalwaternosquint00:19
earthling_checkin00:21
earthling_are add-ons usually safe?00:22
earthling_they are proprietary?00:22
coalwaterpro what? lol00:22
earthling_closed source00:24
earthling_aka00:24
coalwaterdepends on the one who created it i guess00:27
coalwaterholstein: i think gparted is gonna do it, running it from a live cd, i can right click copy and then paste, gonna know in a min00:31
AddalaideCan someone help me please?02:07
coalwaterwhats up Addalaide02:08
Addalaidemy left side menu isnt showing icons02:09
bioterrorsounds like unity?02:10
Addalaidei am somewhat new to linux02:10
coalwateris it a netbook version or a natty beta?02:10
Addalaidenetbook version02:11
Addalaide10.01 i belive\02:11
coalwater10.1002:11
Addalaideyes02:11
coalwaterfirst time to use it? or has it been always fine?02:12
Addalaidefirst time to use it in 7 years02:12
coalwateri kinda had the same problem when i installed unity on my desktop02:13
Addalaidewhen i scroll over where an icon is a black box shows up where text should be, if i right click it then the black box becomes a bigger black box where i am guessing options are02:14
Addalaideseance i cant see what it should be i can only guess as to what it is but i have a good understanding of how computer operating systems work02:15
coalwateridk what it could be but in 2 days a new version is coming out, it should fix every thing02:17
Addalaidehurm my wireless wont work on it easter, but i can deal with no internet but not being able to see any icons is kinda herting02:19
seidosdoes alt-f2 work?02:20
seidosyou might be able to just excute what you need from a terminal Addalaide02:20
seidosas long as xorg still functions that is02:20
seidos*execute02:20
seidosAdelaide, great song...never been though02:20
Addalaideheard the song never been to the city but my mom was quite doped up when she missppelled it02:21
Addalaidewell i dont belive the alt+f2 works but i can open a terninal02:22
seidoswell, you can run stuff from terminal as a new process if you put & at the end of the command02:22
seidoslike firefox-bin &02:22
seidosor chromium-browser &02:22
coalwateror restart unity?02:22
Addalaidesp unity is what runs the side panel?02:23
coalwateryea02:23
coalwaterdunno if it has a --replace argument02:23
coalwatertry unity --help in terminal02:24
coalwaterim gonna go get a nap cause i need to go to work in a couple of hours02:25
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Addalaidekk thanks for the help02:25
coalwater_awaynothing shows up even if u restart the session?02:26
seidosis there a man page?02:26
* seidos checks02:26
seidosoh right, i don't have natty installed on this system02:26
Addalaidenope you see the shadow of the menu bars but no icons and you can scroll over where an icon should be and get a black box where text should be02:26
coalwater_awayi presume the dash thing is even worse02:26
seidosAddalaide: do man unity might hae some useful info for you02:26
Addalaidei have 10.1002:27
seidos*have02:27
seidosAddalaide: yeah, 10.10 netbook edition02:27
seidosi am just using 10.10 desktop02:27
coalwater_awayclicking the ubuntu logo will bring a huge list with also no logos?02:27
seidosah, i could install the unity package02:27
coalwater_awayyea02:28
coalwater_awayi did that on my desktop, it wont have all the features u see in the natty videos02:28
Addalaideif i open the page where it shows all the installed programs it shows the icons just fine02:28
coalwater_awayjust the old maveric unity02:28
coalwater_awayo so its just the side panel ?02:28
coalwater_awaythat sucks02:28
Addalaideya...just a little...02:28
coalwater_awaymaybe u could mess with the appearance settings, choose a different theme then back to the one u have02:29
coalwater_awaymaybe the logos are just not loaded properly02:29
Addalaidei types unity --show and that little window opened and showed the 6 icons no problum02:29
Addalaidei changed the settings already and nothing02:29
coalwater_awayidk u need someone who plays with unity alot , but like i said, 2 days and ull get a distro update then all ubuntu people will have this unity02:30
Addalaidehurm...i dont have a land line :(02:31
coalwater_awayyea, same here, ill steal the cd from work lol02:31
Addalaidehaha i will take the pc to class and make the teacher fix it for me :))02:32
coalwater_awayif the teacher knows ubuntu that is02:32
Addalaideoh ya.... he dose we already installed it on 2 machines02:32
coalwater_awayeven some customer service people here, when i say i have linux they ask me what kind of windows that is02:32
AddalaideA+ class and the teacher hates windows so we install linux on machines when there built02:33
coalwater_awaylol good teacher02:33
seidoswhat school?02:34
Addalaidejust a community college in tx02:34
seidosinteresting02:35
Addalaideyep it has some nice it classes, we just build the computers we will be useing for the VMwere class this fall02:36
coalwater_awayok im off to bed02:36
Addalaidenice classes* sorry i had a long day at work02:36
coalwater_awaynight guys02:36
Addalaidenight, thanks02:36
seidosknight coalwater_away02:36
seidoseducation deflation02:37
Addalaide?02:38
Addalaideso, when i hook up to a landline will everything auto update or will i have to search for all the updates i need?02:39
nit-witAddalaide, runupdate manager02:57
Addalaidemk, will it fint everything that is needed like the drivers for the wireless or will i have to find some things?02:58
seidosi don't know03:04
seidosAddalaide: what wireless chipset is it?  best to search the web, see if anyone has come across the lack of hardware support03:05
Addalaidewell its just kinda an odd thing, the laptop i used is a dell inspiron 1521 the 1520 and 1525 are combadable with 10.10 but the 1521 only a fue people have used and it seams no one has put up allot of info03:09
seidosAddalaide: you can scan lscpi to find you wireless chipset03:10
Addalaideits the amd vertion of the intels so it has an ati graphics fard03:10
seidosAddalaide: are you serious?03:10
seidosfard?03:10
Addalaidecard* wow.... sorry i type allot better then this03:10
seidosvertion03:10
seidosit's so hard to tell these days if people are serious :|03:11
seidosAddalaide: read, run lspci in terminal, find wireless chipset03:11
Addalaideya i had a long day at work so my mind is blown right now03:13
Addalaidebroadcom corp bcm4401-b003:15
Addalaideok i found the dribvers for that03:20
seidosAddalaide: sorry to hear that03:22
AddalaideOh well, i can log out and set it to log in as a desktop sesion and that fixes it all. is there a way to set that to defalt login or do you know?03:54
seidosAddalaide: yeah, you want "gdmsetup" i think.  system->admin->login03:56
jrmyis there a shortcut key for the system monitor like in windows?03:58
holsteintheres something in the menu i think03:58
holsteinand theres top03:58
seidosjrmy: it may be listed in keyboard shortcuts?03:59
jrmynothing by default?03:59
holsteintop is installed by default03:59
jrmytop?03:59
seidosyeah, i prefer top03:59
Addalaidethanks i got the login set up right03:59
holsteinwonder if the bot is on04:00
holstein!top04:00
ubot2Factoid 'top' not found04:00
holstein:/04:00
holsteinjrmy: in a terminal04:00
holsteinrun04:00
holsteintop04:00
Addalaideand i belive i do have the natty installed04:00
seidosAddalaide: cat /etc/issue to know for sure04:00
jrmyah.. thats the command for that.. well that answers my second question04:01
jrmylol04:01
Addalaidenope just 10.1004:03
jrmyi have the gnome-system-monitor btw04:03
jrmythough this this is a "ubuntu" beginners thing just wanted to clarify04:03
Addalaidewell now that i can see everything better i am quite happy with this flavor i havent used ubuntu i have used slackwere and mandrake04:06
seidosi have tried fedora04:06
seidosi want to try slackware, but i think i'll mess with this system instead04:06
Addalaidewell the slackwere i used was hard to install my father had to do it for me04:07
Addalaidethis was about 7 years ago04:07
Addalaidemaby longer04:07
seidoswerewolf04:07
seidossoftware04:07
seidoswarewolf04:08
seidosAddalaide: oh wow, you've been using linux longer than i have04:08
Addalaidewell i stoped using it my husband ( boyfriend at the time) hated it so i havnt used it sence then now i have 2 laptops and maby 8 desktops and wanted to run linux on something04:10
Addalaidewe use ubuntu in class a little so i picked that one04:10
seidosi think i toyed with Debian back in 200104:11
seidosbut never got it to do anything useful for me04:11
seidosAddalaide: that's cool, using it in class04:11
AddalaideYes its fun i plan on taking a class next semester on nothing but linux if they have it opend this summer04:12
Addalaidei had an apache server set up for a website04:12
Addalaidebut trust me i hate ALLOT of help from my dad ( hes a database adminastratior ) and a fue friends04:13
Addalaidethanks for your help seidos i'll be back in another day05:07
UbuntuN00bhey all i having a problem with my ubuntu. everytime i start my ubuntu it does a scandisk, which it seems to complete. then it switches to a black terminal screen with an solid underscore in the top left corner. it just sits there. eventually i hit the power see the ubuntu splash scree the maching shuts down. I hit the power button then it boots fine06:03
UbuntuN00bit does this every time now06:03
bioterroryou have something broken06:04
UbuntuN00byeah i think it might have to do with something i broke when trying to fix sleep/hibernate06:05
bioterrorUbuntuN00b, what did you do06:11
UbuntuN00bhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47185506:12
UbuntuN00bthats what i falled06:12
bioterrorhal06:17
bioterrorwhat the06:17
bioterrorthat's from 2007 :D06:17
bioterroreven the creator of HAL has said that it's a steaming pile of cow dung :D06:18
UbuntuN00bbleh damn google i should have done an advanced search by newest to oldest06:19
seidosUbuntuN00b: have you tried /etc/acpi/sleep.sh to sleep?06:21
UbuntuN00bnope do i just type thet in terminal whats a .sh file>06:22
UbuntuN00b?06:22
seidosyeah, it might need sudo, haven't used it in awhile06:23
seidosbash script06:24
seidosor shell script06:25
UbuntuN00bkk i will try it out06:25
kLy3ntAlyVeHi guys06:33
kLy3ntAlyVeI"m new here06:34
kLy3ntAlyVejust thought I'd check it out06:34
duanedesignhello kLy3ntAlyVe06:35
kLy3ntAlyVehi06:35
kLy3ntAlyVedude! I don't know what I'm doing here06:35
kLy3ntAlyVejust wanted to hang out though06:35
duanedesignyour are more then welcome to idle06:35
kLy3ntAlyVehow do ppl use this thing?06:35
kLy3ntAlyVeis that what this is?06:36
duanedesignthis thing? you mean IRC, or this channel?06:36
kLy3ntAlyVewell, how irc works. more specif. etiquette06:36
kLy3ntAlyVewhat do ppl do to talk to ea other?06:36
kLy3ntAlyVe:)06:37
tsimpsonit depends on the channel, each channel has a topic and you're expected to stick to the topic of the channel you're talking in06:37
tsimpson(you can see the topic with the /topic command)06:37
duanedesignkLy3ntAlyVe: like if you wanted to have a private message with someone you would type '/msg <nick> <message>'06:37
kLy3ntAlyVeoh?06:38
kLy3ntAlyVeso how did you get to me? By right clicking my name in the pane on the right and opening a private window? Guess we might not be using the same client though too.06:38
tsimpsonyou can be in many channels at once06:39
kLy3ntAlyVeand can I just do that to someone else or is that private?06:39
kLy3ntAlyVethis is so gay06:39
tsimpsonthis is all in the one channel, #ubuntu-beginners06:39
holsteinkLy3ntAlyVe: if you can06:39
kLy3ntAlyVeI'm so ignorant of this06:39
holsteincheck out the /topic06:39
holsteinwhenever you join06:39
kLy3ntAlyVeoh06:40
kLy3ntAlyVeI interpreted that differently06:40
holsteinthat will help with the etiquette06:40
seidoskLy3ntAlyVe: are you using empathy?06:40
kLy3ntAlyVexchat06:40
seidosah06:40
kLy3ntAlyVeempathy is diff kind of chat I thought06:40
tsimpsonempathy can do IRC too, but not well06:40
kLy3ntAlyVewell there's like millions of channels on here06:41
seidoskLy3ntAlyVe: it has IRC support, but not as complete as xchat06:41
kLy3ntAlyVeI jsut wanted to talk06:41
tsimpsonthere are also several more general chat channels too, like #ubuntu-beginners-team, #ubuntu-offtopic and #defocus06:41
seidoskLy3ntAlyVe: this is a support channel, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic06:42
seidoskLy3ntAlyVe: #fictionalphilosophy :)06:42
seidostsimpson: thanks tsimpson i haven't done #defocus before06:42
kLy3ntAlyVeok. thx for the suggestions. can I ask one more quick question before I go?06:43
tsimpsonseidos: it's a channel with few rules, so beware ;)06:43
holsteinsure kLy3ntAlyVe , and if you just want to talk06:43
holsteinthere is an off topic channel06:43
holsteinin the topic06:43
holsteinthat you are welcome to go and just talk in :)06:43
seidostsimpson: thanks for the warning06:44
seidosi'm off to bed06:44
seidosgasho and good night06:44
kLy3ntAlyVewhich one is that holstein?06:44
holstein #ubuntu-begnners-team06:44
kLy3ntAlyVeright06:44
kLy3ntAlyVeok06:44
kLy3ntAlyVeI'll start there then till I get more familiar06:44
kLy3ntAlyVethx06:45
kLy3ntAlyVehave a good one guys. maybe see you around again another time.   :)06:45
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MackStupid question, but I have ubunto 9.1 installed in Sun's Virtual Box. Do I need to uninstall it in order to upgrade to the new version thats coming out in a few days?06:58
tsimpsonno, you shouldn't have to do anything special in order to upgrade06:59
coalwaterhello09:49
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EiriksvinHello, im having a problem installing Ubuntu 10.10 it says there was an unrecoverable error and the installer needs to restart, when i give it the ok it reboots my computer and then i choose ubuntu and it repeats the install which in turn repeats the error, can someone help me?14:42
s-foxEiriksvin,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Desktop%20installer%20sometimes%20crashes%20on%20startup14:43
s-foxOh wait, 10.10... i linked for 10.0414:46
s-fox:)14:46
Eiriksvinheh14:46
Eiriksvinthanks for a hint though14:46
Eiriksvinis there a newer version?14:47
Eiriksvin<+s-fox>should i try that though?14:49
s-foxEiriksvin,  Can't hurt.  I assume you have created your partitions already (if you are going to run ubuntu and another operating system)14:50
Eiriksvinuh, i did it the wubi through windows does that do it?14:51
holsteinyou get that error from wubi?14:51
Eiriksvinno, i get the desktop14:51
EiriksvinUbuntu boots then starts the error14:52
holsteinright14:52
holsteinbut that a normal installation attempt right?14:52
holsteinnot the wubi install?14:52
s-foxIt sounds like bug #57556814:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 575568 in ubuntu "[Wubi 10.04] The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57556814:52
Eiriksvinlet me look14:53
Eiriksvinthats what it does exactly14:53
Eiriksvinjust like his problem, but with 10.1014:54
Eiriksvina little off topic, but you guys are awesome!14:54
holstein:)14:54
Eiriksvinheh, that was worth it14:55
kidsodatelesshello, guys I have tons of files that on a directory which is own by root, i just wanted to change the owner, could be possible to change all files in just one command on terminal?17:19
seidossudo chown -r * kidsodateless17:20
geirhas/r/R/17:20
kidsodatelessseidos: kidsodateless is the directory?17:21
seidoskidsodateless is your nickname17:21
seidosand geirha is right, it's -R17:22
seidosdouble check man chown kidsodateless for details17:22
geirhaAh, yes, and the username comes before the filelist17:22
geirhasudo chown -R newusername /path/to/dir17:23
seidosah, wow, it's been awhile since i've used chown17:27
kidsodatelessseidos, geirha : well done, thanks :) 100k+ files has been changed!17:28
seidos:o17:29
seidosi got a question, how do i specify a variable to be used on the command line?17:30
seidosi want to make like $remote = username@ip17:30
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head_victimseidos: .bashrc ?17:48
seidoshead_victim: thanks i'll check it out17:48
head_victimseidos: hope it's what you're after, it's where I'd start looking anyway17:48
* coalwater whistles18:29
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Eiriksvinhi guys, got yet another question... can somone post a link to where i can get the dev for that program like ndiswrapper... but the one that has the nice little Windows Wireless gui?20:41
Eiriksvinim having a million problems with this and i dont know how to "blacklist" stuff like the forums are saying20:42
Eiriksvinthe only internet i have is wifi and im only using windows for that... if i could get my linux online then i wouldnt need windows but rarely20:43
Eiriksvinor is it deb?20:49
coalwatercan't help, never played with that stuff20:51
japtolhey coal20:52
japtoli finally got gazelle set up lol20:52
coalwaterlol good job20:53
japtolwith the help of a thousand gods20:53
Eiriksvinheh its ok20:53
japtoldo you know how to set up the domain nameservers with bind ?20:53
japtolim following this guide20:53
japtolhttp://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html20:53
japtolto get my domain name set up20:53
japtolbut im not sure if its right20:53
coalwaterwhat's wrong?21:00
japtoli need to get my domain set up21:00
japtolby adding the nameservers21:00
japtolbut im not sure how to do that. i talked to the domain name registrar, and they said ill have to do it directly in root21:00
japtolusing bind21:00
japtolthe guys from my VPS said the same thing21:01
coalwaterjust keep in mind that dns doesn't update instantly21:01
japtolyep21:02
japtolbut im certain im doing it wrong21:02
coalwaterwhy21:04
coalwateru just write21:04
japtoldoes miscmeals.com work for you?21:06
japtolcan you tell me if this guide is right21:08
japtolhttp://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html21:08
coalwaterno not working21:14
japtoldamn21:18
mikeatvillagehi. how can I get xubuntu to find my usb handset please?21:27
coalwaterhm, do u have it on the left panel in thunar ( or at least that's the file explorer name i remember )21:33
mikeatvillageno, not there21:34
japtolcoalwater21:34
coalwateri dont remember xubuntu much21:34
japtolare you good with bind21:34
coalwateri usually do it with cpanel, not terminal21:35
BludGeonTQ:  Is anyone in here familiar with VoteBot.pl , and if so, do you know how to add channels to the .urlChans list so that URL titles are displayed?21:35
japtolim in my VPS cpanel21:38
japtoli dotn see any options for dns21:38
japtoli dont*21:38
coalwaterwhat are u trying to do right now, the name server part is done where u got ur domain name21:43
japtoli got my domain name from namecheap.com21:44
japtolnow i just need to connect the domain name to my server21:44
Juesthi22:04
coalwaterlol that's one impatient guy22:05
MrChrisDruifIndeed he was coalwater22:05
head_victimHe waited 17 seconds, what more do you want22:06
coalwateryea, 17 seconds should be enough to get a few answers, and even have a side talk22:07
MrChrisDruifcoalwater: +1 :D22:07
mikeatvillageCan I ask again... when i plug in my usb handset nothing happens. Any ideas?22:12
mikeatvillageit was fine with Mepis but I've now switched to xubuntu22:13
coalwatermaybe u should try installing samba22:14
bodhi_zazen17 seconds is an eternity on #ubuntu ;P22:14
coalwaterull find it in the synaptic-manager22:15
mikeatvillagesamba?22:15
coalwaterit's some library to help with windows networks and stuff, dunno how to explain it22:16
mikeatvillageI use samba on my linux servers, it allows windoze client to access shares22:16
coalwaterhow can i login on this bazaar thing22:54
coalwaterfrom terminal22:54
seidosi don't recall, and i didn't write it down22:56
seidosi would check the launchpad page for your project coalwater22:57
coalwateri did the branching, but it said if i need to push i need to login22:57
seidosah, i've never pushed code up22:57
jledbettercoalwater, Might not be linked up? Like: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/15121822:59
coalwaterok i did the lp-login and this time it asked for a pw and did the ssh connection23:01
coalwaterso what other commands do i need to now, besides bzr branch lol23:02
coalwatersomething like update and commit23:02
coalwateri've only used svn before23:02
jledbetterMy bzr is rusty since I've been Merucial and git a lot the past few months. Hm. http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/23:03
jledbetterIf you've linked up the right information, done some stuff, then you'll want to commit, then can push. I'm guessing upstream then merges? Maybe. :) (rusty)23:03
coalwaterwhat's the difference between commit and push23:05
jledbetterCommit says "Ok, I made these changes and why and I want to remember." Push is "Ok, now I'm sharing these changes with someone else."23:05
coalwaterwhy's my 'nano' (terminal) so fancy, did it get updated at some time lol it's doing colors!23:07
coalwatero ok, thanks jledbetter , so commit is still local ?23:07
jledbetterI don't know how it got fancy. And yes, your commits are probably local. One way to find out :)23:08
jledbetter(You can always roll back commits probably)23:08
seidoscoalwater: what'd you do?23:09
coalwaterdo with what23:10
coalwateri've deleted launchpad :D jk23:10
jledbetterHeh23:10
seidoscoalwater: with nano23:11
coalwaternothing, i just did a clean maverick install.. and it's nice and all colorish23:11
coalwaterit even recognizes keywords23:11
seidosnothing...except do a clean maverick install, and then i edited some conf file, after doing a google search to find out how23:11
seidosnifty23:12
coalwateri only installed 1 thing23:12
coalwaterwell few23:12
coalwaterlet me check23:12
coalwatersudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends bzr-builddeb ubuntu-dev-tools fakeroot build-essential gnupg pbuilder debhelper, those only23:12
coalwaterdev tools maybe?23:12

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