[00:12] coalwater: there might be tools for that [00:13] outside of the application [00:13] i used a cloning application in the ultimate boot cd [00:13] which worked well [00:13] http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [00:13] its just i made a 4gb drive now its not enough i need more [00:14] i would call this 'the hard way' ;) [00:14] but i really only did it the one time [00:14] and i was actually testing the cloning feature for other purposes [00:15] which one should i pick [00:15] you mean at the UBCD site? [00:15] yea [00:15] the cloning tools didnt change that much [00:16] you could use clonezilla too i bet [00:16] Is there a way to shrink the screen size proportionally on firefox? [00:16] earthling_, not sure what you mean [00:16] earthling_: theres a zoom plugin right? [00:16] there was* [00:16] i havent used FF fulltime in a while [00:17] earthling_, you have firefox opended,, and you want to do what with it? [00:17] when you press maximize to get a different window size, but the background is still the same proportion as before [00:17] so you don't see the whole output [00:17] earthling_, can I see a screenshots of before and after? you can upload to picpaste.com or any you prefer [00:17] yeah, you want to zoom the whole thing [00:17] like opera does [00:17] or did* [00:17] ah ok [00:18] earthling_: search for zoom add-ons [00:18] one of them will do what you want i bet :) [00:18] cant u just press ctrl with + or - [00:18] coalwater: that just does the text size though right? [00:18] that changes the text size I think [00:18] only [00:18] ok i think there was one i used before [00:19] dont remember wht it was called [00:19] nosquint [00:21] checkin [00:22] are add-ons usually safe? [00:22] they are proprietary? [00:22] pro what? lol [00:24] closed source [00:24] aka [00:27] depends on the one who created it i guess [00:31] holstein: i think gparted is gonna do it, running it from a live cd, i can right click copy and then paste, gonna know in a min [02:07] Can someone help me please? [02:08] whats up Addalaide [02:09] my left side menu isnt showing icons [02:10] sounds like unity? [02:10] i am somewhat new to linux [02:10] is it a netbook version or a natty beta? [02:11] netbook version [02:11] 10.01 i belive\ [02:11] 10.10 [02:11] yes [02:12] first time to use it? or has it been always fine? [02:12] first time to use it in 7 years [02:13] i kinda had the same problem when i installed unity on my desktop [02:14] when i scroll over where an icon is a black box shows up where text should be, if i right click it then the black box becomes a bigger black box where i am guessing options are [02:15] seance i cant see what it should be i can only guess as to what it is but i have a good understanding of how computer operating systems work [02:17] idk what it could be but in 2 days a new version is coming out, it should fix every thing [02:19] hurm my wireless wont work on it easter, but i can deal with no internet but not being able to see any icons is kinda herting [02:20] does alt-f2 work? [02:20] you might be able to just excute what you need from a terminal Addalaide [02:20] as long as xorg still functions that is [02:20] *execute [02:20] Adelaide, great song...never been though [02:21] heard the song never been to the city but my mom was quite doped up when she missppelled it [02:22] well i dont belive the alt+f2 works but i can open a terninal [02:22] well, you can run stuff from terminal as a new process if you put & at the end of the command [02:22] like firefox-bin & [02:22] or chromium-browser & [02:22] or restart unity? [02:23] sp unity is what runs the side panel? [02:23] yea [02:23] dunno if it has a --replace argument [02:24] try unity --help in terminal [02:25] im gonna go get a nap cause i need to go to work in a couple of hours === coalwater is now known as coalwater_away [02:25] kk thanks for the help [02:26] nothing shows up even if u restart the session? [02:26] is there a man page? [02:26] * seidos checks [02:26] oh right, i don't have natty installed on this system [02:26] nope you see the shadow of the menu bars but no icons and you can scroll over where an icon should be and get a black box where text should be [02:26] i presume the dash thing is even worse [02:26] Addalaide: do man unity might hae some useful info for you [02:27] i have 10.10 [02:27] *have [02:27] Addalaide: yeah, 10.10 netbook edition [02:27] i am just using 10.10 desktop [02:27] clicking the ubuntu logo will bring a huge list with also no logos? [02:27] ah, i could install the unity package [02:28] yea [02:28] i did that on my desktop, it wont have all the features u see in the natty videos [02:28] if i open the page where it shows all the installed programs it shows the icons just fine [02:28] just the old maveric unity [02:28] o so its just the side panel ? [02:28] that sucks [02:28] ya...just a little... [02:29] maybe u could mess with the appearance settings, choose a different theme then back to the one u have [02:29] maybe the logos are just not loaded properly [02:29] i types unity --show and that little window opened and showed the 6 icons no problum [02:29] i changed the settings already and nothing [02:30] idk u need someone who plays with unity alot , but like i said, 2 days and ull get a distro update then all ubuntu people will have this unity [02:31] hurm...i dont have a land line :( [02:31] yea, same here, ill steal the cd from work lol [02:32] haha i will take the pc to class and make the teacher fix it for me :)) [02:32] if the teacher knows ubuntu that is [02:32] oh ya.... he dose we already installed it on 2 machines [02:32] even some customer service people here, when i say i have linux they ask me what kind of windows that is [02:33] A+ class and the teacher hates windows so we install linux on machines when there built [02:33] lol good teacher [02:34] what school? [02:34] just a community college in tx [02:35] interesting [02:36] yep it has some nice it classes, we just build the computers we will be useing for the VMwere class this fall [02:36] ok im off to bed [02:36] nice classes* sorry i had a long day at work [02:36] night guys [02:36] night, thanks [02:36] knight coalwater_away [02:37] education deflation [02:38] ? [02:39] so, when i hook up to a landline will everything auto update or will i have to search for all the updates i need? [02:57] Addalaide, runupdate manager [02:58] mk, will it fint everything that is needed like the drivers for the wireless or will i have to find some things? [03:04] i don't know [03:05] Addalaide: what wireless chipset is it? best to search the web, see if anyone has come across the lack of hardware support [03:09] well its just kinda an odd thing, the laptop i used is a dell inspiron 1521 the 1520 and 1525 are combadable with 10.10 but the 1521 only a fue people have used and it seams no one has put up allot of info [03:10] Addalaide: you can scan lscpi to find you wireless chipset [03:10] its the amd vertion of the intels so it has an ati graphics fard [03:10] Addalaide: are you serious? [03:10] fard? [03:10] card* wow.... sorry i type allot better then this [03:10] vertion [03:11] it's so hard to tell these days if people are serious :| [03:11] Addalaide: read, run lspci in terminal, find wireless chipset [03:13] ya i had a long day at work so my mind is blown right now [03:15] broadcom corp bcm4401-b0 [03:20] ok i found the dribvers for that [03:22] Addalaide: sorry to hear that [03:54] Oh well, i can log out and set it to log in as a desktop sesion and that fixes it all. is there a way to set that to defalt login or do you know? [03:56] Addalaide: yeah, you want "gdmsetup" i think. system->admin->login [03:58] is there a shortcut key for the system monitor like in windows? [03:58] theres something in the menu i think [03:58] and theres top [03:59] jrmy: it may be listed in keyboard shortcuts? [03:59] nothing by default? [03:59] top is installed by default [03:59] top? [03:59] yeah, i prefer top [03:59] thanks i got the login set up right [04:00] wonder if the bot is on [04:00] !top [04:00] Factoid 'top' not found [04:00] :/ [04:00] jrmy: in a terminal [04:00] run [04:00] top [04:00] and i belive i do have the natty installed [04:00] Addalaide: cat /etc/issue to know for sure [04:01] ah.. thats the command for that.. well that answers my second question [04:01] lol [04:03] nope just 10.10 [04:03] i have the gnome-system-monitor btw [04:03] though this this is a "ubuntu" beginners thing just wanted to clarify [04:06] well now that i can see everything better i am quite happy with this flavor i havent used ubuntu i have used slackwere and mandrake [04:06] i have tried fedora [04:06] i want to try slackware, but i think i'll mess with this system instead [04:07] well the slackwere i used was hard to install my father had to do it for me [04:07] this was about 7 years ago [04:07] maby longer [04:07] werewolf [04:07] software [04:08] warewolf [04:08] Addalaide: oh wow, you've been using linux longer than i have [04:10] well i stoped using it my husband ( boyfriend at the time) hated it so i havnt used it sence then now i have 2 laptops and maby 8 desktops and wanted to run linux on something [04:10] we use ubuntu in class a little so i picked that one [04:11] i think i toyed with Debian back in 2001 [04:11] but never got it to do anything useful for me [04:11] Addalaide: that's cool, using it in class [04:12] Yes its fun i plan on taking a class next semester on nothing but linux if they have it opend this summer [04:12] i had an apache server set up for a website [04:13] but trust me i hate ALLOT of help from my dad ( hes a database adminastratior ) and a fue friends [05:07] thanks for your help seidos i'll be back in another day [06:03] hey all i having a problem with my ubuntu. everytime i start my ubuntu it does a scandisk, which it seems to complete. then it switches to a black terminal screen with an solid underscore in the top left corner. it just sits there. eventually i hit the power see the ubuntu splash scree the maching shuts down. I hit the power button then it boots fine [06:03] it does this every time now [06:04] you have something broken [06:05] yeah i think it might have to do with something i broke when trying to fix sleep/hibernate [06:11] UbuntuN00b, what did you do [06:12] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471855 [06:12] thats what i falled [06:17] hal [06:17] what the [06:17] that's from 2007 :D [06:18] even the creator of HAL has said that it's a steaming pile of cow dung :D [06:19] bleh damn google i should have done an advanced search by newest to oldest [06:21] UbuntuN00b: have you tried /etc/acpi/sleep.sh to sleep? [06:22] nope do i just type thet in terminal whats a .sh file> [06:22] ? [06:23] yeah, it might need sudo, haven't used it in awhile [06:24] bash script [06:25] or shell script [06:25] kk i will try it out [06:33] Hi guys [06:34] I"m new here [06:34] just thought I'd check it out [06:35] hello kLy3ntAlyVe [06:35] hi [06:35] dude! I don't know what I'm doing here [06:35] just wanted to hang out though [06:35] your are more then welcome to idle [06:35] how do ppl use this thing? [06:36] is that what this is? [06:36] this thing? you mean IRC, or this channel? [06:36] well, how irc works. more specif. etiquette [06:36] what do ppl do to talk to ea other? [06:37] :) [06:37] it depends on the channel, each channel has a topic and you're expected to stick to the topic of the channel you're talking in [06:37] (you can see the topic with the /topic command) [06:37] kLy3ntAlyVe: like if you wanted to have a private message with someone you would type '/msg ' [06:38] oh? [06:38] so how did you get to me? By right clicking my name in the pane on the right and opening a private window? Guess we might not be using the same client though too. [06:39] you can be in many channels at once [06:39] and can I just do that to someone else or is that private? [06:39] this is so gay [06:39] this is all in the one channel, #ubuntu-beginners [06:39] kLy3ntAlyVe: if you can [06:39] I'm so ignorant of this [06:39] check out the /topic [06:39] whenever you join [06:40] oh [06:40] I interpreted that differently [06:40] that will help with the etiquette [06:40] kLy3ntAlyVe: are you using empathy? [06:40] xchat [06:40] ah [06:40] empathy is diff kind of chat I thought [06:40] empathy can do IRC too, but not well [06:41] well there's like millions of channels on here [06:41] kLy3ntAlyVe: it has IRC support, but not as complete as xchat [06:41] I jsut wanted to talk [06:41] there are also several more general chat channels too, like #ubuntu-beginners-team, #ubuntu-offtopic and #defocus [06:42] kLy3ntAlyVe: this is a support channel, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic [06:42] kLy3ntAlyVe: #fictionalphilosophy :) [06:42] tsimpson: thanks tsimpson i haven't done #defocus before [06:43] ok. thx for the suggestions. can I ask one more quick question before I go? [06:43] seidos: it's a channel with few rules, so beware ;) [06:43] sure kLy3ntAlyVe , and if you just want to talk [06:43] there is an off topic channel [06:43] in the topic [06:43] that you are welcome to go and just talk in :) [06:44] tsimpson: thanks for the warning [06:44] i'm off to bed [06:44] gasho and good night [06:44] which one is that holstein? [06:44] #ubuntu-begnners-team [06:44] right [06:44] ok [06:44] I'll start there then till I get more familiar [06:45] thx [06:45] have a good one guys. maybe see you around again another time. :) === linh is now known as kristian-sx260 [06:58] Stupid question, but I have ubunto 9.1 installed in Sun's Virtual Box. Do I need to uninstall it in order to upgrade to the new version thats coming out in a few days? [06:59] no, you shouldn't have to do anything special in order to upgrade [09:49] hello === Guest97054 is now known as MichealH [14:42] Hello, im having a problem installing Ubuntu 10.10 it says there was an unrecoverable error and the installer needs to restart, when i give it the ok it reboots my computer and then i choose ubuntu and it repeats the install which in turn repeats the error, can someone help me? [14:43] Eiriksvin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Desktop%20installer%20sometimes%20crashes%20on%20startup [14:46] Oh wait, 10.10... i linked for 10.04 [14:46] :) [14:46] heh [14:46] thanks for a hint though [14:47] is there a newer version? [14:49] <+s-fox>should i try that though? [14:50] Eiriksvin, Can't hurt. I assume you have created your partitions already (if you are going to run ubuntu and another operating system) [14:51] uh, i did it the wubi through windows does that do it? [14:51] you get that error from wubi? [14:51] no, i get the desktop [14:52] Ubuntu boots then starts the error [14:52] right [14:52] but that a normal installation attempt right? [14:52] not the wubi install? [14:52] It sounds like bug #575568 [14:52] Launchpad bug 575568 in ubuntu "[Wubi 10.04] The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575568 [14:53] let me look [14:53] thats what it does exactly [14:54] just like his problem, but with 10.10 [14:54] a little off topic, but you guys are awesome! [14:54] :) [14:55] heh, that was worth it [17:19] hello, guys I have tons of files that on a directory which is own by root, i just wanted to change the owner, could be possible to change all files in just one command on terminal? [17:20] sudo chown -r * kidsodateless [17:20] s/r/R/ [17:21] seidos: kidsodateless is the directory? [17:21] kidsodateless is your nickname [17:22] and geirha is right, it's -R [17:22] double check man chown kidsodateless for details [17:22] Ah, yes, and the username comes before the filelist [17:23] sudo chown -R newusername /path/to/dir [17:27] ah, wow, it's been awhile since i've used chown [17:28] seidos, geirha : well done, thanks :) 100k+ files has been changed! [17:29] :o [17:30] i got a question, how do i specify a variable to be used on the command line? [17:30] i want to make like $remote = username@ip === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:48] seidos: .bashrc ? [17:48] head_victim: thanks i'll check it out [17:48] seidos: hope it's what you're after, it's where I'd start looking anyway [18:29] * coalwater whistles === ross_ is now known as dev1ce [20:41] hi guys, got yet another question... can somone post a link to where i can get the dev for that program like ndiswrapper... but the one that has the nice little Windows Wireless gui? [20:42] im having a million problems with this and i dont know how to "blacklist" stuff like the forums are saying [20:43] the only internet i have is wifi and im only using windows for that... if i could get my linux online then i wouldnt need windows but rarely [20:49] or is it deb? [20:51] can't help, never played with that stuff [20:52] hey coal [20:52] i finally got gazelle set up lol [20:53] lol good job [20:53] with the help of a thousand gods [20:53] heh its ok [20:53] do you know how to set up the domain nameservers with bind ? [20:53] im following this guide [20:53] http://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html [20:53] to get my domain name set up [20:53] but im not sure if its right [21:00] what's wrong? [21:00] i need to get my domain set up [21:00] by adding the nameservers [21:00] but im not sure how to do that. i talked to the domain name registrar, and they said ill have to do it directly in root [21:00] using bind [21:01] the guys from my VPS said the same thing [21:01] just keep in mind that dns doesn't update instantly [21:02] yep [21:02] but im certain im doing it wrong [21:04] why [21:04] u just write [21:06] does miscmeals.com work for you? [21:08] can you tell me if this guide is right [21:08] http://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html [21:14] no not working [21:18] damn [21:27] hi. how can I get xubuntu to find my usb handset please? [21:33] hm, do u have it on the left panel in thunar ( or at least that's the file explorer name i remember ) [21:34] no, not there [21:34] coalwater [21:34] i dont remember xubuntu much [21:34] are you good with bind [21:35] i usually do it with cpanel, not terminal [21:35] Q: Is anyone in here familiar with VoteBot.pl , and if so, do you know how to add channels to the .urlChans list so that URL titles are displayed? [21:38] im in my VPS cpanel [21:38] i dotn see any options for dns [21:38] i dont* [21:43] what are u trying to do right now, the name server part is done where u got ur domain name [21:44] i got my domain name from namecheap.com [21:44] now i just need to connect the domain name to my server [22:04] hi [22:05] lol that's one impatient guy [22:05] Indeed he was coalwater [22:06] He waited 17 seconds, what more do you want [22:07] yea, 17 seconds should be enough to get a few answers, and even have a side talk [22:07] coalwater: +1 :D [22:12] Can I ask again... when i plug in my usb handset nothing happens. Any ideas? [22:13] it was fine with Mepis but I've now switched to xubuntu [22:14] maybe u should try installing samba [22:14] 17 seconds is an eternity on #ubuntu ;P [22:15] ull find it in the synaptic-manager [22:15] samba? [22:16] it's some library to help with windows networks and stuff, dunno how to explain it [22:16] I use samba on my linux servers, it allows windoze client to access shares [22:54] how can i login on this bazaar thing [22:54] from terminal [22:56] i don't recall, and i didn't write it down [22:57] i would check the launchpad page for your project coalwater [22:57] i did the branching, but it said if i need to push i need to login [22:57] ah, i've never pushed code up [22:59] coalwater, Might not be linked up? Like: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/151218 [23:01] ok i did the lp-login and this time it asked for a pw and did the ssh connection [23:02] so what other commands do i need to now, besides bzr branch lol [23:02] something like update and commit [23:02] i've only used svn before [23:03] My bzr is rusty since I've been Merucial and git a lot the past few months. Hm. http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ [23:03] If you've linked up the right information, done some stuff, then you'll want to commit, then can push. I'm guessing upstream then merges? Maybe. :) (rusty) [23:05] what's the difference between commit and push [23:05] Commit says "Ok, I made these changes and why and I want to remember." Push is "Ok, now I'm sharing these changes with someone else." [23:07] why's my 'nano' (terminal) so fancy, did it get updated at some time lol it's doing colors! [23:07] o ok, thanks jledbetter , so commit is still local ? [23:08] I don't know how it got fancy. And yes, your commits are probably local. One way to find out :) [23:08] (You can always roll back commits probably) [23:09] coalwater: what'd you do? [23:10] do with what [23:10] i've deleted launchpad :D jk [23:10] Heh [23:11] coalwater: with nano [23:11] nothing, i just did a clean maverick install.. and it's nice and all colorish [23:11] it even recognizes keywords [23:11] nothing...except do a clean maverick install, and then i edited some conf file, after doing a google search to find out how [23:12] nifty [23:12] i only installed 1 thing [23:12] well few [23:12] let me check [23:12] sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends bzr-builddeb ubuntu-dev-tools fakeroot build-essential gnupg pbuilder debhelper, those only [23:12] dev tools maybe?