[00:12] <holstein> coalwater: there might be tools for that
[00:13] <holstein> outside of the application
[00:13] <holstein> i used a cloning application in the ultimate boot cd
[00:13] <holstein> which worked well
[00:13] <holstein> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[00:13] <coalwater> its just i made a 4gb drive now its not enough i need more
[00:14] <holstein> i would call this 'the hard way' ;)
[00:14] <holstein> but i really only did it the one time
[00:14] <holstein> and i was actually testing the cloning feature for other purposes
[00:15] <coalwater> which one should i pick
[00:15] <holstein> you mean at the UBCD site?
[00:15] <coalwater> yea
[00:15] <holstein> the cloning tools didnt change that much
[00:16] <holstein> you could use clonezilla too i bet
[00:16] <earthling_> Is there a way to shrink the screen size proportionally on firefox?
[00:16] <coz_> earthling_,  not sure what you mean
[00:16] <holstein> earthling_: theres a zoom plugin right?
[00:16] <holstein> there was*
[00:16] <holstein> i havent used FF fulltime in a while
[00:17] <coz_> earthling_,  you have firefox opended,, and you want to do what with it?
[00:17] <earthling_> when you press maximize to get a different window size, but the background is still the same proportion as before
[00:17] <earthling_> so you don't see the whole output
[00:17] <coz_> earthling_,  can I see a screenshots of before and after?   you can upload to picpaste.com or any you prefer
[00:17] <holstein> yeah, you want to zoom the whole thing
[00:17] <holstein> like opera does
[00:17] <holstein> or did*
[00:17] <earthling_> ah ok
[00:18] <holstein> earthling_: search for zoom add-ons
[00:18] <holstein> one of them will do what you want i bet :)
[00:18] <coalwater> cant u just press ctrl with + or -
[00:18] <holstein> coalwater: that just does the text size though right?
[00:18] <earthling_> that changes the text size I think
[00:18] <earthling_> only
[00:18] <coalwater> ok i think there was one i used before
[00:19] <coalwater> dont remember wht it was called
[00:19] <coalwater> nosquint
[00:21] <earthling_> checkin
[00:22] <earthling_> are add-ons usually safe?
[00:22] <earthling_> they are proprietary?
[00:22] <coalwater> pro what? lol
[00:24] <earthling_> closed source
[00:24] <earthling_> aka
[00:27] <coalwater> depends on the one who created it i guess
[00:31] <coalwater> holstein: i think gparted is gonna do it, running it from a live cd, i can right click copy and then paste, gonna know in a min
[02:07] <Addalaide> Can someone help me please?
[02:08] <coalwater> whats up Addalaide
[02:09] <Addalaide> my left side menu isnt showing icons
[02:10] <bioterror> sounds like unity?
[02:10] <Addalaide> i am somewhat new to linux
[02:10] <coalwater> is it a netbook version or a natty beta?
[02:11] <Addalaide> netbook version
[02:11] <Addalaide> 10.01 i belive\
[02:11] <coalwater> 10.10
[02:11] <Addalaide> yes
[02:12] <coalwater> first time to use it? or has it been always fine?
[02:12] <Addalaide> first time to use it in 7 years
[02:13] <coalwater> i kinda had the same problem when i installed unity on my desktop
[02:14] <Addalaide> when i scroll over where an icon is a black box shows up where text should be, if i right click it then the black box becomes a bigger black box where i am guessing options are
[02:15] <Addalaide> seance i cant see what it should be i can only guess as to what it is but i have a good understanding of how computer operating systems work
[02:17] <coalwater> idk what it could be but in 2 days a new version is coming out, it should fix every thing
[02:19] <Addalaide> hurm my wireless wont work on it easter, but i can deal with no internet but not being able to see any icons is kinda herting
[02:20] <seidos> does alt-f2 work?
[02:20] <seidos> you might be able to just excute what you need from a terminal Addalaide
[02:20] <seidos> as long as xorg still functions that is
[02:20] <seidos> *execute
[02:20] <seidos> Adelaide, great song...never been though
[02:21] <Addalaide> heard the song never been to the city but my mom was quite doped up when she missppelled it
[02:22] <Addalaide> well i dont belive the alt+f2 works but i can open a terninal
[02:22] <seidos> well, you can run stuff from terminal as a new process if you put & at the end of the command
[02:22] <seidos> like firefox-bin &
[02:22] <seidos> or chromium-browser &
[02:22] <coalwater> or restart unity?
[02:23] <Addalaide> sp unity is what runs the side panel?
[02:23] <coalwater> yea
[02:23] <coalwater> dunno if it has a --replace argument
[02:24] <coalwater> try unity --help in terminal
[02:25] <coalwater> im gonna go get a nap cause i need to go to work in a couple of hours
[02:25] <Addalaide> kk thanks for the help
[02:26] <coalwater_away> nothing shows up even if u restart the session?
[02:26] <seidos> is there a man page?
[02:26]  * seidos checks
[02:26] <seidos> oh right, i don't have natty installed on this system
[02:26] <Addalaide> nope you see the shadow of the menu bars but no icons and you can scroll over where an icon should be and get a black box where text should be
[02:26] <coalwater_away> i presume the dash thing is even worse
[02:26] <seidos> Addalaide: do man unity might hae some useful info for you
[02:27] <Addalaide> i have 10.10
[02:27] <seidos> *have
[02:27] <seidos> Addalaide: yeah, 10.10 netbook edition
[02:27] <seidos> i am just using 10.10 desktop
[02:27] <coalwater_away> clicking the ubuntu logo will bring a huge list with also no logos?
[02:27] <seidos> ah, i could install the unity package
[02:28] <coalwater_away> yea
[02:28] <coalwater_away> i did that on my desktop, it wont have all the features u see in the natty videos
[02:28] <Addalaide> if i open the page where it shows all the installed programs it shows the icons just fine
[02:28] <coalwater_away> just the old maveric unity
[02:28] <coalwater_away> o so its just the side panel ?
[02:28] <coalwater_away> that sucks
[02:28] <Addalaide> ya...just a little...
[02:29] <coalwater_away> maybe u could mess with the appearance settings, choose a different theme then back to the one u have
[02:29] <coalwater_away> maybe the logos are just not loaded properly
[02:29] <Addalaide> i types unity --show and that little window opened and showed the 6 icons no problum
[02:29] <Addalaide> i changed the settings already and nothing
[02:30] <coalwater_away> idk u need someone who plays with unity alot , but like i said, 2 days and ull get a distro update then all ubuntu people will have this unity
[02:31] <Addalaide> hurm...i dont have a land line :(
[02:31] <coalwater_away> yea, same here, ill steal the cd from work lol
[02:32] <Addalaide> haha i will take the pc to class and make the teacher fix it for me :))
[02:32] <coalwater_away> if the teacher knows ubuntu that is
[02:32] <Addalaide> oh ya.... he dose we already installed it on 2 machines
[02:32] <coalwater_away> even some customer service people here, when i say i have linux they ask me what kind of windows that is
[02:33] <Addalaide> A+ class and the teacher hates windows so we install linux on machines when there built
[02:33] <coalwater_away> lol good teacher
[02:34] <seidos> what school?
[02:34] <Addalaide> just a community college in tx
[02:35] <seidos> interesting
[02:36] <Addalaide> yep it has some nice it classes, we just build the computers we will be useing for the VMwere class this fall
[02:36] <coalwater_away> ok im off to bed
[02:36] <Addalaide> nice classes* sorry i had a long day at work
[02:36] <coalwater_away> night guys
[02:36] <Addalaide> night, thanks
[02:36] <seidos> knight coalwater_away
[02:37] <seidos> education deflation
[02:38] <Addalaide> ?
[02:39] <Addalaide> so, when i hook up to a landline will everything auto update or will i have to search for all the updates i need?
[02:57] <nit-wit> Addalaide, runupdate manager
[02:58] <Addalaide> mk, will it fint everything that is needed like the drivers for the wireless or will i have to find some things?
[03:04] <seidos> i don't know
[03:05] <seidos> Addalaide: what wireless chipset is it?  best to search the web, see if anyone has come across the lack of hardware support
[03:09] <Addalaide> well its just kinda an odd thing, the laptop i used is a dell inspiron 1521 the 1520 and 1525 are combadable with 10.10 but the 1521 only a fue people have used and it seams no one has put up allot of info
[03:10] <seidos> Addalaide: you can scan lscpi to find you wireless chipset
[03:10] <Addalaide> its the amd vertion of the intels so it has an ati graphics fard
[03:10] <seidos> Addalaide: are you serious?
[03:10] <seidos> fard?
[03:10] <Addalaide> card* wow.... sorry i type allot better then this
[03:10] <seidos> vertion
[03:11] <seidos> it's so hard to tell these days if people are serious :|
[03:11] <seidos> Addalaide: read, run lspci in terminal, find wireless chipset
[03:13] <Addalaide> ya i had a long day at work so my mind is blown right now
[03:15] <Addalaide> broadcom corp bcm4401-b0
[03:20] <Addalaide> ok i found the dribvers for that
[03:22] <seidos> Addalaide: sorry to hear that
[03:54] <Addalaide> Oh well, i can log out and set it to log in as a desktop sesion and that fixes it all. is there a way to set that to defalt login or do you know?
[03:56] <seidos> Addalaide: yeah, you want "gdmsetup" i think.  system->admin->login
[03:58] <jrmy> is there a shortcut key for the system monitor like in windows?
[03:58] <holstein> theres something in the menu i think
[03:58] <holstein> and theres top
[03:59] <seidos> jrmy: it may be listed in keyboard shortcuts?
[03:59] <jrmy> nothing by default?
[03:59] <holstein> top is installed by default
[03:59] <jrmy> top?
[03:59] <seidos> yeah, i prefer top
[03:59] <Addalaide> thanks i got the login set up right
[04:00] <holstein> wonder if the bot is on
[04:00] <holstein> !top
[04:00] <ubot2> Factoid 'top' not found
[04:00] <holstein> :/
[04:00] <holstein> jrmy: in a terminal
[04:00] <holstein> run
[04:00] <holstein> top
[04:00] <Addalaide> and i belive i do have the natty installed
[04:00] <seidos> Addalaide: cat /etc/issue to know for sure
[04:01] <jrmy> ah.. thats the command for that.. well that answers my second question
[04:01] <jrmy> lol
[04:03] <Addalaide> nope just 10.10
[04:03] <jrmy> i have the gnome-system-monitor btw
[04:03] <jrmy> though this this is a "ubuntu" beginners thing just wanted to clarify
[04:06] <Addalaide> well now that i can see everything better i am quite happy with this flavor i havent used ubuntu i have used slackwere and mandrake
[04:06] <seidos> i have tried fedora
[04:06] <seidos> i want to try slackware, but i think i'll mess with this system instead
[04:07] <Addalaide> well the slackwere i used was hard to install my father had to do it for me
[04:07] <Addalaide> this was about 7 years ago
[04:07] <Addalaide> maby longer
[04:07] <seidos> werewolf
[04:07] <seidos> software
[04:08] <seidos> warewolf
[04:08] <seidos> Addalaide: oh wow, you've been using linux longer than i have
[04:10] <Addalaide> well i stoped using it my husband ( boyfriend at the time) hated it so i havnt used it sence then now i have 2 laptops and maby 8 desktops and wanted to run linux on something
[04:10] <Addalaide> we use ubuntu in class a little so i picked that one
[04:11] <seidos> i think i toyed with Debian back in 2001
[04:11] <seidos> but never got it to do anything useful for me
[04:11] <seidos> Addalaide: that's cool, using it in class
[04:12] <Addalaide> Yes its fun i plan on taking a class next semester on nothing but linux if they have it opend this summer
[04:12] <Addalaide> i had an apache server set up for a website
[04:13] <Addalaide> but trust me i hate ALLOT of help from my dad ( hes a database adminastratior ) and a fue friends
[05:07] <Addalaide> thanks for your help seidos i'll be back in another day
[06:03] <UbuntuN00b> hey all i having a problem with my ubuntu. everytime i start my ubuntu it does a scandisk, which it seems to complete. then it switches to a black terminal screen with an solid underscore in the top left corner. it just sits there. eventually i hit the power see the ubuntu splash scree the maching shuts down. I hit the power button then it boots fine
[06:03] <UbuntuN00b> it does this every time now
[06:04] <bioterror> you have something broken
[06:05] <UbuntuN00b> yeah i think it might have to do with something i broke when trying to fix sleep/hibernate
[06:11] <bioterror> UbuntuN00b, what did you do
[06:12] <UbuntuN00b> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471855
[06:12] <UbuntuN00b> thats what i falled
[06:17] <bioterror> hal
[06:17] <bioterror> what the
[06:17] <bioterror> that's from 2007 :D
[06:18] <bioterror> even the creator of HAL has said that it's a steaming pile of cow dung :D
[06:19] <UbuntuN00b> bleh damn google i should have done an advanced search by newest to oldest
[06:21] <seidos> UbuntuN00b: have you tried /etc/acpi/sleep.sh to sleep?
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> nope do i just type thet in terminal whats a .sh file>
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> ?
[06:23] <seidos> yeah, it might need sudo, haven't used it in awhile
[06:24] <seidos> bash script
[06:25] <seidos> or shell script
[06:25] <UbuntuN00b> kk i will try it out
[06:33] <kLy3ntAlyVe> Hi guys
[06:34] <kLy3ntAlyVe> I"m new here
[06:34] <kLy3ntAlyVe> just thought I'd check it out
[06:35] <duanedesign> hello kLy3ntAlyVe
[06:35] <kLy3ntAlyVe> hi
[06:35] <kLy3ntAlyVe> dude! I don't know what I'm doing here
[06:35] <kLy3ntAlyVe> just wanted to hang out though
[06:35] <duanedesign> your are more then welcome to idle
[06:35] <kLy3ntAlyVe> how do ppl use this thing?
[06:36] <kLy3ntAlyVe> is that what this is?
[06:36] <duanedesign> this thing? you mean IRC, or this channel?
[06:36] <kLy3ntAlyVe> well, how irc works. more specif. etiquette
[06:36] <kLy3ntAlyVe> what do ppl do to talk to ea other?
[06:37] <kLy3ntAlyVe> :)
[06:37] <tsimpson> it depends on the channel, each channel has a topic and you're expected to stick to the topic of the channel you're talking in
[06:37] <tsimpson> (you can see the topic with the /topic command)
[06:37] <duanedesign> kLy3ntAlyVe: like if you wanted to have a private message with someone you would type '/msg <nick> <message>'
[06:38] <kLy3ntAlyVe> oh?
[06:38] <kLy3ntAlyVe> so how did you get to me? By right clicking my name in the pane on the right and opening a private window? Guess we might not be using the same client though too.
[06:39] <tsimpson> you can be in many channels at once
[06:39] <kLy3ntAlyVe> and can I just do that to someone else or is that private?
[06:39] <kLy3ntAlyVe> this is so gay
[06:39] <tsimpson> this is all in the one channel, #ubuntu-beginners
[06:39] <holstein> kLy3ntAlyVe: if you can
[06:39] <kLy3ntAlyVe> I'm so ignorant of this
[06:39] <holstein> check out the /topic
[06:39] <holstein> whenever you join
[06:40] <kLy3ntAlyVe> oh
[06:40] <kLy3ntAlyVe> I interpreted that differently
[06:40] <holstein> that will help with the etiquette
[06:40] <seidos> kLy3ntAlyVe: are you using empathy?
[06:40] <kLy3ntAlyVe> xchat
[06:40] <seidos> ah
[06:40] <kLy3ntAlyVe> empathy is diff kind of chat I thought
[06:40] <tsimpson> empathy can do IRC too, but not well
[06:41] <kLy3ntAlyVe> well there's like millions of channels on here
[06:41] <seidos> kLy3ntAlyVe: it has IRC support, but not as complete as xchat
[06:41] <kLy3ntAlyVe> I jsut wanted to talk
[06:41] <tsimpson> there are also several more general chat channels too, like #ubuntu-beginners-team, #ubuntu-offtopic and #defocus
[06:42] <seidos> kLy3ntAlyVe: this is a support channel, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42] <seidos> kLy3ntAlyVe: #fictionalphilosophy :)
[06:42] <seidos> tsimpson: thanks tsimpson i haven't done #defocus before
[06:43] <kLy3ntAlyVe> ok. thx for the suggestions. can I ask one more quick question before I go?
[06:43] <tsimpson> seidos: it's a channel with few rules, so beware ;)
[06:43] <holstein> sure kLy3ntAlyVe , and if you just want to talk
[06:43] <holstein> there is an off topic channel
[06:43] <holstein> in the topic
[06:43] <holstein> that you are welcome to go and just talk in :)
[06:44] <seidos> tsimpson: thanks for the warning
[06:44] <seidos> i'm off to bed
[06:44] <seidos> gasho and good night
[06:44] <kLy3ntAlyVe> which one is that holstein?
[06:44] <holstein>  #ubuntu-begnners-team
[06:44] <kLy3ntAlyVe> right
[06:44] <kLy3ntAlyVe> ok
[06:44] <kLy3ntAlyVe> I'll start there then till I get more familiar
[06:45] <kLy3ntAlyVe> thx
[06:45] <kLy3ntAlyVe> have a good one guys. maybe see you around again another time.   :)
[06:58] <Mack> Stupid question, but I have ubunto 9.1 installed in Sun's Virtual Box. Do I need to uninstall it in order to upgrade to the new version thats coming out in a few days?
[06:59] <tsimpson> no, you shouldn't have to do anything special in order to upgrade
[09:49] <coalwater> hello
[14:42] <Eiriksvin> Hello, im having a problem installing Ubuntu 10.10 it says there was an unrecoverable error and the installer needs to restart, when i give it the ok it reboots my computer and then i choose ubuntu and it repeats the install which in turn repeats the error, can someone help me?
[14:43] <s-fox> Eiriksvin,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Desktop%20installer%20sometimes%20crashes%20on%20startup
[14:46] <s-fox> Oh wait, 10.10... i linked for 10.04
[14:46] <s-fox> :)
[14:46] <Eiriksvin> heh
[14:46] <Eiriksvin> thanks for a hint though
[14:47] <Eiriksvin> is there a newer version?
should i try that though?
[14:50] <s-fox> Eiriksvin,  Can't hurt.  I assume you have created your partitions already (if you are going to run ubuntu and another operating system)
[14:51] <Eiriksvin> uh, i did it the wubi through windows does that do it?
[14:51] <holstein> you get that error from wubi?
[14:51] <Eiriksvin> no, i get the desktop
[14:52] <Eiriksvin> Ubuntu boots then starts the error
[14:52] <holstein> right
[14:52] <holstein> but that a normal installation attempt right?
[14:52] <holstein> not the wubi install?
[14:52] <s-fox> It sounds like bug #575568
[14:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 575568 in ubuntu "[Wubi 10.04] The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575568
[14:53] <Eiriksvin> let me look
[14:53] <Eiriksvin> thats what it does exactly
[14:54] <Eiriksvin> just like his problem, but with 10.10
[14:54] <Eiriksvin> a little off topic, but you guys are awesome!
[14:54] <holstein> :)
[14:55] <Eiriksvin> heh, that was worth it
[17:19] <kidsodateless> hello, guys I have tons of files that on a directory which is own by root, i just wanted to change the owner, could be possible to change all files in just one command on terminal?
[17:20] <seidos> sudo chown -r * kidsodateless
[17:20] <geirha> s/r/R/
[17:21] <kidsodateless> seidos: kidsodateless is the directory?
[17:21] <seidos> kidsodateless is your nickname
[17:22] <seidos> and geirha is right, it's -R
[17:22] <seidos> double check man chown kidsodateless for details
[17:22] <geirha> Ah, yes, and the username comes before the filelist
[17:23] <geirha> sudo chown -R newusername /path/to/dir
[17:27] <seidos> ah, wow, it's been awhile since i've used chown
[17:28] <kidsodateless> seidos, geirha : well done, thanks :) 100k+ files has been changed!
[17:29] <seidos> :o
[17:30] <seidos> i got a question, how do i specify a variable to be used on the command line?
[17:30] <seidos> i want to make like $remote = username@ip
[17:48] <head_victim> seidos: .bashrc ?
[17:48] <seidos> head_victim: thanks i'll check it out
[17:48] <head_victim> seidos: hope it's what you're after, it's where I'd start looking anyway
[18:29]  * coalwater whistles
[20:41] <Eiriksvin> hi guys, got yet another question... can somone post a link to where i can get the dev for that program like ndiswrapper... but the one that has the nice little Windows Wireless gui?
[20:42] <Eiriksvin> im having a million problems with this and i dont know how to "blacklist" stuff like the forums are saying
[20:43] <Eiriksvin> the only internet i have is wifi and im only using windows for that... if i could get my linux online then i wouldnt need windows but rarely
[20:49] <Eiriksvin> or is it deb?
[20:51] <coalwater> can't help, never played with that stuff
[20:52] <japtol> hey coal
[20:52] <japtol> i finally got gazelle set up lol
[20:53] <coalwater> lol good job
[20:53] <japtol> with the help of a thousand gods
[20:53] <Eiriksvin> heh its ok
[20:53] <japtol> do you know how to set up the domain nameservers with bind ?
[20:53] <japtol> im following this guide
[20:53] <japtol> http://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html
[20:53] <japtol> to get my domain name set up
[20:53] <japtol> but im not sure if its right
[21:00] <coalwater> what's wrong?
[21:00] <japtol> i need to get my domain set up
[21:00] <japtol> by adding the nameservers
[21:00] <japtol> but im not sure how to do that. i talked to the domain name registrar, and they said ill have to do it directly in root
[21:00] <japtol> using bind
[21:01] <japtol> the guys from my VPS said the same thing
[21:01] <coalwater> just keep in mind that dns doesn't update instantly
[21:02] <japtol> yep
[21:02] <japtol> but im certain im doing it wrong
[21:04] <coalwater> why
[21:04] <coalwater> u just write
[21:06] <japtol> does miscmeals.com work for you?
[21:08] <japtol> can you tell me if this guide is right
[21:08] <japtol> http://vpsdiary.blogspot.com/2010/07/setting-up-bind9-dns-sever-on-vps.html
[21:14] <coalwater> no not working
[21:18] <japtol> damn
[21:27] <mikeatvillage> hi. how can I get xubuntu to find my usb handset please?
[21:33] <coalwater> hm, do u have it on the left panel in thunar ( or at least that's the file explorer name i remember )
[21:34] <mikeatvillage> no, not there
[21:34] <japtol> coalwater
[21:34] <coalwater> i dont remember xubuntu much
[21:34] <japtol> are you good with bind
[21:35] <coalwater> i usually do it with cpanel, not terminal
[21:35] <BludGeonT> Q:  Is anyone in here familiar with VoteBot.pl , and if so, do you know how to add channels to the .urlChans list so that URL titles are displayed?
[21:38] <japtol> im in my VPS cpanel
[21:38] <japtol> i dotn see any options for dns
[21:38] <japtol> i dont*
[21:43] <coalwater> what are u trying to do right now, the name server part is done where u got ur domain name
[21:44] <japtol> i got my domain name from namecheap.com
[21:44] <japtol> now i just need to connect the domain name to my server
[22:04] <Juest> hi
[22:05] <coalwater> lol that's one impatient guy
[22:05] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed he was coalwater
[22:06] <head_victim> He waited 17 seconds, what more do you want
[22:07] <coalwater> yea, 17 seconds should be enough to get a few answers, and even have a side talk
[22:07] <MrChrisDruif> coalwater: +1 :D
[22:12] <mikeatvillage> Can I ask again... when i plug in my usb handset nothing happens. Any ideas?
[22:13] <mikeatvillage> it was fine with Mepis but I've now switched to xubuntu
[22:14] <coalwater> maybe u should try installing samba
[22:14] <bodhi_zazen> 17 seconds is an eternity on #ubuntu ;P
[22:15] <coalwater> ull find it in the synaptic-manager
[22:15] <mikeatvillage> samba?
[22:16] <coalwater> it's some library to help with windows networks and stuff, dunno how to explain it
[22:16] <mikeatvillage> I use samba on my linux servers, it allows windoze client to access shares
[22:54] <coalwater> how can i login on this bazaar thing
[22:54] <coalwater> from terminal
[22:56] <seidos> i don't recall, and i didn't write it down
[22:57] <seidos> i would check the launchpad page for your project coalwater
[22:57] <coalwater> i did the branching, but it said if i need to push i need to login
[22:57] <seidos> ah, i've never pushed code up
[22:59] <jledbetter> coalwater, Might not be linked up? Like: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/151218
[23:01] <coalwater> ok i did the lp-login and this time it asked for a pw and did the ssh connection
[23:02] <coalwater> so what other commands do i need to now, besides bzr branch lol
[23:02] <coalwater> something like update and commit
[23:02] <coalwater> i've only used svn before
[23:03] <jledbetter> My bzr is rusty since I've been Merucial and git a lot the past few months. Hm. http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/
[23:03] <jledbetter> If you've linked up the right information, done some stuff, then you'll want to commit, then can push. I'm guessing upstream then merges? Maybe. :) (rusty)
[23:05] <coalwater> what's the difference between commit and push
[23:05] <jledbetter> Commit says "Ok, I made these changes and why and I want to remember." Push is "Ok, now I'm sharing these changes with someone else."
[23:07] <coalwater> why's my 'nano' (terminal) so fancy, did it get updated at some time lol it's doing colors!
[23:07] <coalwater> o ok, thanks jledbetter , so commit is still local ?
[23:08] <jledbetter> I don't know how it got fancy. And yes, your commits are probably local. One way to find out :)
[23:08] <jledbetter> (You can always roll back commits probably)
[23:09] <seidos> coalwater: what'd you do?
[23:10] <coalwater> do with what
[23:10] <coalwater> i've deleted launchpad :D jk
[23:10] <jledbetter> Heh
[23:11] <seidos> coalwater: with nano
[23:11] <coalwater> nothing, i just did a clean maverick install.. and it's nice and all colorish
[23:11] <coalwater> it even recognizes keywords
[23:11] <seidos> nothing...except do a clean maverick install, and then i edited some conf file, after doing a google search to find out how
[23:12] <seidos> nifty
[23:12] <coalwater> i only installed 1 thing
[23:12] <coalwater> well few
[23:12] <coalwater> let me check
[23:12] <coalwater> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends bzr-builddeb ubuntu-dev-tools fakeroot build-essential gnupg pbuilder debhelper, those only
[23:12] <coalwater> dev tools maybe?