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| ChrisWoollard | Evening rickfosb | 19:59 |
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| ChrisWoollard | Ahhh, the soothing music... | 20:03 |
| rickfosb | Good evening Chris... was in the other room | 20:06 |
| ChrisWoollard | hello | 20:06 |
| rickfosb | (technically, still doing the 'day job') | 20:06 |
| ChrisWoollard | Ahh. What was the day job again? | 20:06 |
| rickfosb | AT&T.. Data analysis - productivity, headcount and volumes | 20:07 |
| rickfosb | counting widgets | 20:07 |
| ChrisWoollard | Aren't widgets those things that go in beer cans | 20:08 |
| rickfosb | :) those too! | 20:08 |
| ChrisWoollard | incidentally the bzr-stats package is what can give a list of contributors. | 20:10 |
| rickfosb | Would that get a minimal list of contributors, then? | 20:11 |
| rickfosb | for inclusion, i mean | 20:11 |
| ChrisWoollard | maybe. i need to play to see what it gives me | 20:12 |
| ChrisWoollard | i am not sure if it deals with translators | 20:12 |
| rickfosb | ok; I'll be interested in what you get. I was looking at running 'spell' on the tex files in a batch... that proved to be not so helpful :) | 20:13 |
| rickfosb | Its real good at ignoring the non alpha stuff in the latex tags, but then finds a latex tag and thinks its misspelled. | 20:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | are you trying to spell check | 20:15 |
| rickfosb | Though I might run a real quick look and get the easy spelling stuff out of the .tex files | 20:15 |
| rickfosb | yes | 20:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | i usually use vim as my editor. It has a spell check option | 20:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | :set spell | 20:15 |
| rickfosb | I bounce back and forth; vi to gedit | 20:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | it highlights incorrect spellings | 20:16 |
| rickfosb | I'll try vim; I'm more of an old time unix user when it comes to that.... love the global search and replace, etc. | 20:16 |
| rickfosb | ok; stepping away for a while. Have a great evening. check you later | 20:17 |
| ChrisWoollard | ok | 20:17 |
| ChrisWoollard | laters | 20:17 |
| rickfosb | :) | 20:17 |
| godbyk | There's a spellcheck.py script in the lucid-e1 repository that may be helpful. | 20:24 |
| godbyk | Also try "aspell -t blah.tex" | 20:25 |
| godbyk | It'll filter out the TeX commands and spell-check only the content. | 20:25 |
| rickfosb | Thanks! | 20:30 |
| ChrisWoollard | evening godbyk | 20:32 |
| godbyk | Hey, ChrisWoollard. How was your holiday? | 20:36 |
| ChrisWoollard | i mean lovely thanks | 20:36 |
| godbyk | Hey, rickfosb. How are things going? | 20:40 |
| rickfosb | godbyk; going well. just working... :) i just came back in here to restart empathy.. I lost the contact list and was not sure how to raise it (natty) | 20:41 |
| godbyk | Ah, well, I'll let you get back to it then. :) | 20:42 |
| rickfosb | seeing the talk about different versions (kindle, etc) Sounds like some fun... using the tex files to build lots of usable output! | 20:43 |
| godbyk | Yeah, I'd love to get some different output formats going (for e-readers, HTML, etc.). | 20:44 |
| godbyk | Unfortunately, LaTeX seems to not be the best source format for all of those. | 20:44 |
| rickfosb | (ipad) hehe | 20:44 |
| ChrisWoollard | Motorola Xoom ;) | 20:44 |
| godbyk | I've not had much luck with the LaTeX-to-HTML tools. | 20:44 |
| rickfosb | I like latex so far; I'm just thinking with the right additions to our makefile, we might get some real leverage .. | 20:45 |
| godbyk | I've been meaning to play with Docbook → LaTeX → PDF and Docbook → HTML chains, but haven't had the time yet. | 20:45 |
| rickfosb | would also like to be able to build by chapter... for ease of editing, etc., I'm reviewing my old Make books...brushing up... | 20:46 |
| rickfosb | (in my spare time) ha | 20:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | Kevin, should i mention what Kyle did ;) | 20:46 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: To build an individual chapter, you could edit the main.tex file, and add \includeonly{x,y,z} before \begin{document} | 20:47 |
| godbyk | where x,y,z is a list of documents to include. all other \include's will be ignored. | 20:48 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: <shudder> | 20:48 |
| rickfosb | ahhh. ok | 20:48 |
| rickfosb | ChrisWollard: dotell | 20:48 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: He wrote a huge set of shell scripts that convert docbook documents to PDF using Apache's FOP. | 20:49 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: Each chapter is its own standalone document. | 20:49 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: But then they get mashed together to form a book (of sorts). | 20:49 |
| ChrisWoollard | each chapter in its own branch | 20:49 |
| rickfosb | godbyk; indexing, page numbering??? must have been a btch | 20:50 |
| godbyk | Oh, yeah, and that. Their project has an order of magnitude fewer contributors than ours, but he thought it'd be best if they went with one chapter per bzr branch. | 20:50 |
| godbyk | So you have to check out over half a dozen branches to build the complete book. | 20:50 |
| ChrisWoollard | I have not heard anything from them in weeks | 20:50 |
| rickfosb | no thanks | 20:50 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: I don't think they have any indexing yet. Not sure how page numbering is handled. | 20:51 |
| ChrisWoollard | Also, it has not been updated in 6/7 weeks | 20:51 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: I haven't heard from them in eons either. They seemed pretty content to go their own way. I don't have time to learn Apache FOP, so I can't be of much help. | 20:51 |
| rickfosb | godbyk: what's the project name? | 20:52 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: The Ubuntu Developers' Manual. | 20:52 |
| rickfosb | geeez | 20:52 |
| godbyk | rickfosb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/DeveloperManual/ | 20:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | They used our toolchain first | 20:53 |
| rickfosb | ok, my meeting minder's going off... I'll be back in an hour.. See you two. (thanks for the link godbyk) | 20:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | Then converted the whole lot to docbook | 20:53 |
| godbyk | I think that the "translation-credits" text in the credits.tex file should automatically be replaced by Launchpad during the translation process with a list of translators who contributed. | 20:57 |
| godbyk | But I've never tried it before. | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | I was about to have a look at that | 20:58 |
| godbyk | I also want to look into using the Ubuntu font as the sans serif font in the new edition. I have to check the language support and whatnot first, though, and probably adjust some font sizes. | 20:59 |
| ChrisWoollard | nice | 21:01 |
| rickfosb | \quit | 22:36 |
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