/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/26/#ubuntu-ops.txt

IdleOnegloriousfaggot: anything we can help you with?01:17
rwwIdleOne: half of their nick is banforwarded here.01:18
IdleOneI suspect you got forwarded here because of your nickname01:18
gloriousfaggotnope, joined ubuntu and it brought me here01:18
IdleOneyour nick is/can be offensive and is banned from #ubuntu01:18
IdleOnewell part of your nick01:19
gloriousfaggotinteresting01:19
IdleOnenot so much.01:19
IdleOneanyhow, if you change your nick to something less potentially offensive you will be able to join #ubuntu01:20
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IdleOnethat will do.01:23
IdleOnethank you. Please part this channel and rejoin #ubuntu. oh, don't chnage it back once you are in :)01:23
ubottuiceroot called the ops in #ubuntu (bilalo)01:23
Piciremoved. and messaged the first person who talked to it, likely the bot owner.01:28
* rww ponders whether to start pointing Lubuntu users at #lubuntu, since it isn't a supported derivative...02:23
IdleOnewe should if we are going to follow our own rules02:27
Flanneldid that fall apart?02:27
FlannelIf it's LXDE specific, they really will get the best support in #lubuntu anyway02:27
IdleOneThing about Lubuntu is they have some PPA's enabled by default, also it not being an official derivative. Fair is fair, we don't support mint we shouldn't support Lubuntu02:28
IdleOnebut I would still suggest Lubuntu over mint any day02:29
FlannelThey have PPAs enabled by default?02:30
rwwone, yes02:30
IdleOnesome yes, I don't know which exactly02:30
FlannelAre you sure?  How do the packages in the repos deal with that? is there one that eables the PPAs?02:30
IdleOneonly one?02:30
IdleOneFlannel: the PPA is in the default sources.list on install02:31
rwwIf I remember correctly, https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa02:31
FlannelIdleOne: Right, but if I install lubuntu-desktop, how does that get enabled?02:31
IdleOneno idea02:31
IdleOneprobably best to ask #lubuntu heh02:32
Tm_TMorning06:11
Jordan_UI suspect that sIRC in #ubuntu is a bot.07:32
Jordan_UOr maybe it was just a mis{copy/paste}.07:33
Tm_Ttwice?07:34
Jordan_UD'oh, I didn't notice that the other comment was also a duplicate of someone elses.07:38
Jordan_UOnce again I am on IRC far too late :)07:38
Tm_Thi Omega09:33
Tm_Thi Ttech09:34
ikoniacould someone remove Omega and Ttech as they are not responding11:19
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jussipoophammer sounds a bit yucky name to me :/13:03
Picijussi: Hes hasn't been trouble so far.13:04
jussiPici: yeah, Ive no probs with the behaviour, just the nick to me is not so nice. Ill PM him and nicely ask - Im not going to enfore hard on it, but its just not so nice for me at least.13:05
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ikoniadid anyone unban larstoban in -ot17:04
Picier, was he banned?17:04
* Pici forget17:04
ikoniayes17:04
ikoniaI did it yesterday17:04
larstorbhi17:05
PiciI just moved my logs to a different server, so I can't check, sorry.17:05
ikoniaPici: it's fine it was disscussed in here so will be logged17:05
larstorbno it wasnt17:05
ikonialarstorb: yesterday I banned you from #ubuntu-offtopic17:05
larstorbit was dicussed per query17:06
ikoniaafter you told me your neighbours where a I problem again, do you remember that17:06
larstorbyes17:06
ikonialarstorb: ok, so I'm going to look at the ban I placed no in #ubuntu-offtopic and see if bazhang removed it17:06
larstorbdont know if somebody remove it17:06
larstorbit wasnt in here17:07
larstorbso i came back17:07
ikoniawell, lets look17:07
larstorbokay17:07
larstorbthen17:08
ikoniaok - the ban is still present in #ubuntu offtopic17:08
ikoniacould you please leave #ubuntu-offtopic17:08
larstorbok but can you unban me17:08
ikonialarstorb: no as I explained yesterday your neighbours cause too much of a problem, so we can't allow it to continue17:08
larstorbwhere should i know if the ban is still there?17:08
larstorbyou can say everything17:09
larstorbi cant prove that17:09
ikoniaI know, which is why we can't let you in17:09
larstorb but i proved my neighbours17:09
ikoniano you didn't17:09
larstorbarent come back again17:10
ikoniahence why I removed you yesterday17:10
larstorbi can17:10
larstorbthey have different provider noww17:10
larstorbi have got  *@p57976C8E.dip.t-dialin.net 87.151.108.14217:10
ikoniawell, we need some time to make sure they don't come back as a problem, so once we are happy your neighbours are not going to be a problem we can look at removing the ban17:10
ikonialarstorb: you change IP addresses everyday, so please don't use IP addresses as a reference17:10
larstorbi can make sure:17:10
ikoniano you can't17:11
larstorb*.dip.t-dialin.net17:11
ikoniayesterday you had p57906EC1.dip.t-dialin.net17:11
larstorbis always the same17:11
larstorbyes but t-dialin.net17:11
ikoniaeither way - we are going to leave the ban in place until there is confidence your neightbours will not be a problem again17:11
larstorbi made it sure17:11
larstorbthey are with ewetel17:11
larstorbprovider17:12
ikoniathey where a problem yesterday, so we need to make sure so we need time,17:12
larstorbthere mustnt be anything made sure17:12
ikonialarstorb: that's how it is - sorry17:12
larstorbif somebody with my provider comes it it must be i "17:12
larstorbthen you can kick17:13
ikoniathat's how it is, sorry17:13
larstorb!repeat17:13
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:13
ikonialarstorb: just telling you how it is17:13
larstorbok17:13
larstorbbutt when can i come back again ?17:13
ikoniawhen we are sure your neighbours won't be a problem17:13
larstorbokay so i should wait at least a week17:14
larstorbthen it may be then okay17:14
larstorb?17:14
ikoniawe'll let you know when17:14
larstorbokay i will go in ubuntu-ops later weeks17:14
larstorband then you can tell m17:14
ikoniaok, thanks17:14
larstorbthanks from my side tooo ikonia ;) ;)17:15
Picierm okay.17:15
ikonia17:34 -!- iq [~iq@p5796B088.dip.t-dialin.net]17:34
ikoniathat was the guy who used to send me odd messages in pm17:34
ikoniaI could remember him until he just signed back in17:34
ikoniashocking similar hostmask and behaviour to lars17:34
IdleOnebecause it's the same person17:34
ikoniaare you sure ?17:35
Piciem?17:35
Picier, eh?17:35
IdleOneI can't see how he and his neighbors could be asking the same questions over and over and using the same M.O.17:35
ikoniathats the same person, for sure, I don't know if iq is17:36
IdleOne"My brother did it!"17:36
ikoniahowever iq is the same guy who used to pm me with odd comments/questions17:36
LjLi swear if someone else goes around larting users who ask about filesharing software, with reasons like "we don't encourage p2p" or the like, i'm gonna snap18:08
ikoniasnap !18:09
ikoniaLjL: p2p is wrong...you should know better18:10
ikoniaLjL: you know we don't engourage illegal activities18:11
IdleOnebut the software itself and file sharing are not illegal18:11
ikoniaSHSSSSSS18:11
ikoniaI'm just trying to bait LjL into snapping18:12
ikoniahe's too cool though]18:12
IdleOneohhh18:12
IdleOneLjL: bad file sharer you are. Stop taking money from the Movie/Music/Software companies18:12
ikoniaI think the moments past18:12
IdleOneikonia: if you really want him to snap you have to bait in the support channel.18:13
LjLi'm not cool, i was just out smoking ;(18:13
IdleOneLjL: do you have any files you would like to share with me?18:14
IdleOneI have lots of available HDD space18:14
ikonia /dcc ljl keylogger.exe18:14
IdleOnealots of them18:14
LjLIdleOne: sure just let me connect the webcam18:15
IdleOnehaha18:15
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* Pici updates his outyet alias18:45
Spicemasterikonia:19:09
Spicemasterkeep track your own bussiness19:10
Spicemasterdon't disturb my bussiness ok19:10
SpicemasterSTFU19:10
LjL...19:11
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (u6657u appears to be abusive - 6)19:27
Picimeh19:27
rww#ubuntu-unregged has more people in it than #ubuntu-release-party. That's kinda sad :<19:52
Ampelbeinhi. you might want to take a look at <PiNKisH0t>, previously <Sexygurl2furl> in #ubuntu20:36
Juesthi, BAZHANG! GO TO THE FULL F******ING HELL!!!!!!!! THE SAME BEHAVIOUR WAS ACCEPTABLE IN #ANDROID AND SO ON DAMN YOU ALL22:06
LjL@mark Juest Quite abusive22:06
ubottuThe operation succeeded.22:06
JuestHEY HEY HEY HEY22:13
LjLJuest: please do not be abusive22:16
JuestYEAH, THE F*****ING BAZHANG MUTED ME AT #UBUNTU22:18
LjLwhat you just said is called "being abusive".22:18
LjLplease don't.22:18
LjLif you are ready to discuss this civilly, without swearing and with no caps, i can do that.22:18
Juestthe same behavior is someway acceptable in #android and those channels22:18
LjL#ubuntu is not #android22:19
LjLchannels on freenode have different rules22:19
LjL!etiquette | Juest, these are ours22:19
ubottuJuest, these are ours: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...22:19
LjLthe most importants are in !guidelines22:19
Juestyep, #ubuntu is very strict because bazhang muted me because of bad support and crazyness because i was impatient it was 4 AM22:20
LjLJuest: #ubuntu is quite strict, yes, because we have around 1500 users and it's very busy22:21
LjLJuest: i am sure that you're willing to drop the bad attitude, and to spend some time reading our guidelines (and then following them), the mute can be revoked22:21
elkyYou missed the "if".22:21
LjLbut you *really* shouldn't tell anyone to "go to the f****ing hell" for any reason (and the **** don't really help making it any better)22:21
LjLyes, i meant if22:22
Juestok, i am just trying to being fine, and i won't waste time reading the terms22:22
LjLthen i guess i won't waste my time trying to get your mute revoked ;)22:22
Juestand i know these, unless there's something that's not common in normal terms22:23
Juesti promise the muting won't be a waste of time and i was in a desperate supporting neeed22:23
LjLhow can you know them if you haven't read them? i think i just pointed out that they're not the same as #android or other channels22:24
Juestyep, but they are closer than other ones22:24
Juestalso there's basic terms22:24
FlannelJuest: I think you're going to waste more time trying to not read the guidelines than just reading them in the first place22:24
Juestwhy?22:24
LjLbecause you'll spend an hour trying to convince us to let you in without having read them, and we won't :P so, read them.22:25
FlannelJuest: Well, you've already spent two minutes22:25
Juesti just know them, being polite, etc22:25
Juestlol?22:25
LjLsure, there's a long document telling you to "be polite etc". it's long just because we had fun making it long.22:25
Juestlol, no one wants to read loooong terms unless is very very serious22:26
Juesti am not so, just want to get some support22:27
topyliJuest: you're wasting everybody's time. do you want to use the channel or not?22:27
topyli!guidelines22:27
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines22:27
topylidirect link there22:27
topylibtw, looks like your problem was with the gnome-shell ppa, which is not supported. you were explained as much in #ubuntu already though. they won't support your gnome-shell even if you're allowed back22:28
Juestyep, now my gnome2 is broken22:29
topylimost likely22:29
Juestthat gnome-shell was listed in official synaptic manager22:29
Juesttoo bad22:30
LjLnot before you added that PPA, surely22:30
Juestand it said nothing22:30
LjLof course after you add the PPA then it becomes listed22:30
LjLit said it clearly enough on the PPA page, which you should have checked before adding it22:30
Juestalso i was using the stock sources of ubuntu22:30
Juestis not mine22:30
LjLthat can't be22:30
LjLthe stock Ubuntu doesn't contain gnome-shell22:30
Juesti never visited any ppa page22:30
FlannelLjL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/gnome-shell22:31
Juestand i was downloading from localized internet ubuntu source22:31
LjLJuest: are you on Maverick?22:31
Juesti am at argentina\22:31
Juesti downloaded from ar.ubuntu.com22:31
LjLJuest: i mean which version of Ubuntu are you using?22:31
Juestyep, i am in 10.10 Maverick22:31
Juestnot now, unsing another computer22:32
Juestand is a VM\22:32
Juestand #vbox was someway dead22:32
Juesttoo quiet22:32
LjLJuest: can i PM you?22:32
Juestalso i have sound troubles22:32
JuestSure :)22:32
topylioh yes maverick does have some old version of gnome-shell22:33
Juestis better :)22:33
Juestno, i think that was gnome 322:33
Juestbecause i also seen gnome3-session22:33
LjLyes Maverick seems to have that too22:34
topyliin any case, this channel is for resolving the ban22:34
Flanneltopyli: It actually is in karmic even.22:34
topyliso we only removed it once it was actually released and stable :)22:35
Juestyep, but is an alternative for support ppl that was banned/muted from #ubuntu22:35
Flanneltopyli: of course.22:35
FlannelJuest: No it's not.22:35
LjLtopyli: yeah it seems obvious there was nothing political involved.22:36
FlannelJuest: The proper course of action is to come here, get your ban sorted out, then get support in #ubuntu.  But you're refusing to do that, as you won't take the time to read the guidelines.22:36
LjLthey are not *that* long22:37
Juestok, i don't refuse to get unmuted, and i won't read  yet22:37
FlannelJuest: By refusing to read them, you are refusing to allow us to unmute you, yes.22:38
Juest:'(22:38
JuestBUAAA then22:38
LjLwhy so stubborn?22:38
LjLjust read them, it's easy22:38
Juestlol?22:38
Juestyep, is longer22:38
Juesti feel like reading android docs22:38
Juestnever read it22:38
Juestmore than 2000 pages22:39
LjLwell what can i say, it's your choice22:39
LjLi said i would help you if you come back later, but keep in mind i'm *not* using Maverick and most of the time, i don't have a clue22:39
LjLso you'd be much better off getting help from #ubuntu, i'm sure22:39
Juestyeah, the support for me, was little :/22:40
Juestand #vbox is dead (was too quiet)22:41
FlannelJuest: If you're not interested in resolving your mute at the moment, and if there's nothing else this channel can do for you, I'm going to ask you leave and come back once you're interested in resolving your mute.22:41
Juesti am interested to resolve the unmute22:42
Juestso i stay22:42
Juestchecking #vbox, always too quiet :(22:43
FlannelJuest: We've already told you: You need to read the guidelines.  This is the only way you'll be unmuted.  You have said you won't do so, therefore you aren't interested at resolving your mute.22:43
JuestOK, CYA!!!!22:43
topylithe android community is hardly the best benchmark for civility :(22:45
PiciA shame really.22:46
topyliindeed22:50
PiciMore lars-like behavior.23:28

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