[01:17] <IdleOne> gloriousfaggot: anything we can help you with?
[01:18] <rww> IdleOne: half of their nick is banforwarded here.
[01:18] <IdleOne> I suspect you got forwarded here because of your nickname
[01:18] <gloriousfaggot> nope, joined ubuntu and it brought me here
[01:18] <IdleOne> your nick is/can be offensive and is banned from #ubuntu
[01:19] <IdleOne> well part of your nick
[01:19] <gloriousfaggot> interesting
[01:19] <IdleOne> not so much.
[01:20] <IdleOne> anyhow, if you change your nick to something less potentially offensive you will be able to join #ubuntu
[01:23] <IdleOne> that will do.
[01:23] <IdleOne> thank you. Please part this channel and rejoin #ubuntu. oh, don't chnage it back once you are in :)
[01:28] <Pici> removed. and messaged the first person who talked to it, likely the bot owner.
[02:23]  * rww ponders whether to start pointing Lubuntu users at #lubuntu, since it isn't a supported derivative...
[02:27] <IdleOne> we should if we are going to follow our own rules
[02:27] <Flannel> did that fall apart?
[02:27] <Flannel> If it's LXDE specific, they really will get the best support in #lubuntu anyway
[02:28] <IdleOne> Thing about Lubuntu is they have some PPA's enabled by default, also it not being an official derivative. Fair is fair, we don't support mint we shouldn't support Lubuntu
[02:29] <IdleOne> but I would still suggest Lubuntu over mint any day
[02:30] <Flannel> They have PPAs enabled by default?
[02:30] <rww> one, yes
[02:30] <IdleOne> some yes, I don't know which exactly
[02:30] <Flannel> Are you sure?  How do the packages in the repos deal with that? is there one that eables the PPAs?
[02:30] <IdleOne> only one?
[02:31] <IdleOne> Flannel: the PPA is in the default sources.list on install
[02:31] <rww> If I remember correctly, https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
[02:31] <Flannel> IdleOne: Right, but if I install lubuntu-desktop, how does that get enabled?
[02:31] <IdleOne> no idea
[02:32] <IdleOne> probably best to ask #lubuntu heh
[06:11] <Tm_T> Morning
[07:32] <Jordan_U> I suspect that sIRC in #ubuntu is a bot.
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Or maybe it was just a mis{copy/paste}.
[07:34] <Tm_T> twice?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> D'oh, I didn't notice that the other comment was also a duplicate of someone elses.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Once again I am on IRC far too late :)
[09:33] <Tm_T> hi Omega
[09:34] <Tm_T> hi Ttech
[11:19] <ikonia> could someone remove Omega and Ttech as they are not responding
[13:03] <jussi> poophammer sounds a bit yucky name to me :/
[13:04] <Pici> jussi: Hes hasn't been trouble so far.
[13:05] <jussi> Pici: yeah, Ive no probs with the behaviour, just the nick to me is not so nice. Ill PM him and nicely ask - Im not going to enfore hard on it, but its just not so nice for me at least.
[17:04] <ikonia> did anyone unban larstoban in -ot
[17:04] <Pici> er, was he banned?
[17:04]  * Pici forget
[17:04] <ikonia> yes
[17:04] <ikonia> I did it yesterday
[17:05] <larstorb> hi
[17:05] <Pici> I just moved my logs to a different server, so I can't check, sorry.
[17:05] <ikonia> Pici: it's fine it was disscussed in here so will be logged
[17:05] <larstorb> no it wasnt
[17:05] <ikonia> larstorb: yesterday I banned you from #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:06] <larstorb> it was dicussed per query
[17:06] <ikonia> after you told me your neighbours where a I problem again, do you remember that
[17:06] <larstorb> yes
[17:06] <ikonia> larstorb: ok, so I'm going to look at the ban I placed no in #ubuntu-offtopic and see if bazhang removed it
[17:06] <larstorb> dont know if somebody remove it
[17:07] <larstorb> it wasnt in here
[17:07] <larstorb> so i came back
[17:07] <ikonia> well, lets look
[17:07] <larstorb> okay
[17:08] <larstorb> then
[17:08] <ikonia> ok - the ban is still present in #ubuntu offtopic
[17:08] <ikonia> could you please leave #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:08] <larstorb> ok but can you unban me
[17:08] <ikonia> larstorb: no as I explained yesterday your neighbours cause too much of a problem, so we can't allow it to continue
[17:08] <larstorb> where should i know if the ban is still there?
[17:09] <larstorb> you can say everything
[17:09] <larstorb> i cant prove that
[17:09] <ikonia> I know, which is why we can't let you in
[17:09] <larstorb>  but i proved my neighbours
[17:09] <ikonia> no you didn't
[17:10] <larstorb> arent come back again
[17:10] <ikonia> hence why I removed you yesterday
[17:10] <larstorb> i can
[17:10] <larstorb> they have different provider noww
[17:10] <larstorb> i have got  *@p57976C8E.dip.t-dialin.net 87.151.108.142
[17:10] <ikonia> well, we need some time to make sure they don't come back as a problem, so once we are happy your neighbours are not going to be a problem we can look at removing the ban
[17:10] <ikonia> larstorb: you change IP addresses everyday, so please don't use IP addresses as a reference
[17:10] <larstorb> i can make sure:
[17:11] <ikonia> no you can't
[17:11] <larstorb> *.dip.t-dialin.net
[17:11] <ikonia> yesterday you had p57906EC1.dip.t-dialin.net
[17:11] <larstorb> is always the same
[17:11] <larstorb> yes but t-dialin.net
[17:11] <ikonia> either way - we are going to leave the ban in place until there is confidence your neightbours will not be a problem again
[17:11] <larstorb> i made it sure
[17:11] <larstorb> they are with ewetel
[17:12] <larstorb> provider
[17:12] <ikonia> they where a problem yesterday, so we need to make sure so we need time,
[17:12] <larstorb> there mustnt be anything made sure
[17:12] <ikonia> larstorb: that's how it is - sorry
[17:12] <larstorb> if somebody with my provider comes it it must be i "
[17:13] <larstorb> then you can kick
[17:13] <ikonia> that's how it is, sorry
[17:13] <larstorb> !repeat
[17:13] <ikonia> larstorb: just telling you how it is
[17:13] <larstorb> ok
[17:13] <larstorb> butt when can i come back again ?
[17:13] <ikonia> when we are sure your neighbours won't be a problem
[17:14] <larstorb> okay so i should wait at least a week
[17:14] <larstorb> then it may be then okay
[17:14] <larstorb> ?
[17:14] <ikonia> we'll let you know when
[17:14] <larstorb> okay i will go in ubuntu-ops later weeks
[17:14] <larstorb> and then you can tell m
[17:14] <ikonia> ok, thanks
[17:15] <larstorb> thanks from my side tooo ikonia ;) ;)
[17:15] <Pici> erm okay.
[17:34] <ikonia> 17:34 -!- iq [~iq@p5796B088.dip.t-dialin.net]
[17:34] <ikonia> that was the guy who used to send me odd messages in pm
[17:34] <ikonia> I could remember him until he just signed back in
[17:34] <ikonia> shocking similar hostmask and behaviour to lars
[17:34] <IdleOne> because it's the same person
[17:35] <ikonia> are you sure ?
[17:35] <Pici> em?
[17:35] <Pici> er, eh?
[17:35] <IdleOne> I can't see how he and his neighbors could be asking the same questions over and over and using the same M.O.
[17:36] <ikonia> thats the same person, for sure, I don't know if iq is
[17:36] <IdleOne> "My brother did it!"
[17:36] <ikonia> however iq is the same guy who used to pm me with odd comments/questions
[18:08] <LjL> i swear if someone else goes around larting users who ask about filesharing software, with reasons like "we don't encourage p2p" or the like, i'm gonna snap
[18:09] <ikonia> snap !
[18:10] <ikonia> LjL: p2p is wrong...you should know better
[18:11] <ikonia> LjL: you know we don't engourage illegal activities
[18:11] <IdleOne> but the software itself and file sharing are not illegal
[18:11] <ikonia> SHSSSSSS
[18:12] <ikonia> I'm just trying to bait LjL into snapping
[18:12] <ikonia> he's too cool though]
[18:12] <IdleOne> ohhh
[18:12] <IdleOne> LjL: bad file sharer you are. Stop taking money from the Movie/Music/Software companies
[18:12] <ikonia> I think the moments past
[18:13] <IdleOne> ikonia: if you really want him to snap you have to bait in the support channel.
[18:13] <LjL> i'm not cool, i was just out smoking ;(
[18:14] <IdleOne> LjL: do you have any files you would like to share with me?
[18:14] <IdleOne> I have lots of available HDD space
[18:14] <ikonia>  /dcc ljl keylogger.exe
[18:14] <IdleOne> alots of them
[18:15] <LjL> IdleOne: sure just let me connect the webcam
[18:15] <IdleOne> haha
[18:45]  * Pici updates his outyet alias
[19:09] <Spicemaster> ikonia:
[19:10] <Spicemaster> keep track your own bussiness
[19:10] <Spicemaster> don't disturb my bussiness ok
[19:10] <Spicemaster> STFU
[19:11] <LjL> ...
[19:27] <Pici> meh
[19:52] <rww> #ubuntu-unregged has more people in it than #ubuntu-release-party. That's kinda sad :<
[20:36] <Ampelbein> hi. you might want to take a look at <PiNKisH0t>, previously <Sexygurl2furl> in #ubuntu
[22:06] <Juest> hi, BAZHANG! GO TO THE FULL F******ING HELL!!!!!!!! THE SAME BEHAVIOUR WAS ACCEPTABLE IN #ANDROID AND SO ON DAMN YOU ALL
[22:06] <LjL> @mark Juest Quite abusive
[22:13] <Juest> HEY HEY HEY HEY
[22:16] <LjL> Juest: please do not be abusive
[22:18] <Juest> YEAH, THE F*****ING BAZHANG MUTED ME AT #UBUNTU
[22:18] <LjL> what you just said is called "being abusive".
[22:18] <LjL> please don't.
[22:18] <LjL> if you are ready to discuss this civilly, without swearing and with no caps, i can do that.
[22:18] <Juest> the same behavior is someway acceptable in #android and those channels
[22:19] <LjL> #ubuntu is not #android
[22:19] <LjL> channels on freenode have different rules
[22:19] <LjL> !etiquette | Juest, these are ours
[22:19] <LjL> the most importants are in !guidelines
[22:20] <Juest> yep, #ubuntu is very strict because bazhang muted me because of bad support and crazyness because i was impatient it was 4 AM
[22:21] <LjL> Juest: #ubuntu is quite strict, yes, because we have around 1500 users and it's very busy
[22:21] <LjL> Juest: i am sure that you're willing to drop the bad attitude, and to spend some time reading our guidelines (and then following them), the mute can be revoked
[22:21] <elky> You missed the "if".
[22:21] <LjL> but you *really* shouldn't tell anyone to "go to the f****ing hell" for any reason (and the **** don't really help making it any better)
[22:22] <LjL> yes, i meant if
[22:22] <Juest> ok, i am just trying to being fine, and i won't waste time reading the terms
[22:22] <LjL> then i guess i won't waste my time trying to get your mute revoked ;)
[22:23] <Juest> and i know these, unless there's something that's not common in normal terms
[22:23] <Juest> i promise the muting won't be a waste of time and i was in a desperate supporting neeed
[22:24] <LjL> how can you know them if you haven't read them? i think i just pointed out that they're not the same as #android or other channels
[22:24] <Juest> yep, but they are closer than other ones
[22:24] <Juest> also there's basic terms
[22:24] <Flannel> Juest: I think you're going to waste more time trying to not read the guidelines than just reading them in the first place
[22:24] <Juest> why?
[22:25] <LjL> because you'll spend an hour trying to convince us to let you in without having read them, and we won't :P so, read them.
[22:25] <Flannel> Juest: Well, you've already spent two minutes
[22:25] <Juest> i just know them, being polite, etc
[22:25] <Juest> lol?
[22:25] <LjL> sure, there's a long document telling you to "be polite etc". it's long just because we had fun making it long.
[22:26] <Juest> lol, no one wants to read loooong terms unless is very very serious
[22:27] <Juest> i am not so, just want to get some support
[22:27] <topyli> Juest: you're wasting everybody's time. do you want to use the channel or not?
[22:27] <topyli> !guidelines
[22:27] <topyli> direct link there
[22:28] <topyli> btw, looks like your problem was with the gnome-shell ppa, which is not supported. you were explained as much in #ubuntu already though. they won't support your gnome-shell even if you're allowed back
[22:29] <Juest> yep, now my gnome2 is broken
[22:29] <topyli> most likely
[22:29] <Juest> that gnome-shell was listed in official synaptic manager
[22:30] <Juest> too bad
[22:30] <LjL> not before you added that PPA, surely
[22:30] <Juest> and it said nothing
[22:30] <LjL> of course after you add the PPA then it becomes listed
[22:30] <LjL> it said it clearly enough on the PPA page, which you should have checked before adding it
[22:30] <Juest> also i was using the stock sources of ubuntu
[22:30] <Juest> is not mine
[22:30] <LjL> that can't be
[22:30] <LjL> the stock Ubuntu doesn't contain gnome-shell
[22:30] <Juest> i never visited any ppa page
[22:31] <Flannel> LjL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/gnome-shell
[22:31] <Juest> and i was downloading from localized internet ubuntu source
[22:31] <LjL> Juest: are you on Maverick?
[22:31] <Juest> i am at argentina\
[22:31] <Juest> i downloaded from ar.ubuntu.com
[22:31] <LjL> Juest: i mean which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:31] <Juest> yep, i am in 10.10 Maverick
[22:32] <Juest> not now, unsing another computer
[22:32] <Juest> and is a VM\
[22:32] <Juest> and #vbox was someway dead
[22:32] <Juest> too quiet
[22:32] <LjL> Juest: can i PM you?
[22:32] <Juest> also i have sound troubles
[22:32] <Juest> Sure :)
[22:33] <topyli> oh yes maverick does have some old version of gnome-shell
[22:33] <Juest> is better :)
[22:33] <Juest> no, i think that was gnome 3
[22:33] <Juest> because i also seen gnome3-session
[22:34] <LjL> yes Maverick seems to have that too
[22:34] <topyli> in any case, this channel is for resolving the ban
[22:34] <Flannel> topyli: It actually is in karmic even.
[22:35] <topyli> so we only removed it once it was actually released and stable :)
[22:35] <Juest> yep, but is an alternative for support ppl that was banned/muted from #ubuntu
[22:35] <Flannel> topyli: of course.
[22:35] <Flannel> Juest: No it's not.
[22:36] <LjL> topyli: yeah it seems obvious there was nothing political involved.
[22:36] <Flannel> Juest: The proper course of action is to come here, get your ban sorted out, then get support in #ubuntu.  But you're refusing to do that, as you won't take the time to read the guidelines.
[22:37] <LjL> they are not *that* long
[22:37] <Juest> ok, i don't refuse to get unmuted, and i won't read  yet
[22:38] <Flannel> Juest: By refusing to read them, you are refusing to allow us to unmute you, yes.
[22:38] <Juest> :'(
[22:38] <Juest> BUAAA then
[22:38] <LjL> why so stubborn?
[22:38] <LjL> just read them, it's easy
[22:38] <Juest> lol?
[22:38] <Juest> yep, is longer
[22:38] <Juest> i feel like reading android docs
[22:38] <Juest> never read it
[22:39] <Juest> more than 2000 pages
[22:39] <LjL> well what can i say, it's your choice
[22:39] <LjL> i said i would help you if you come back later, but keep in mind i'm *not* using Maverick and most of the time, i don't have a clue
[22:39] <LjL> so you'd be much better off getting help from #ubuntu, i'm sure
[22:40] <Juest> yeah, the support for me, was little :/
[22:41] <Juest> and #vbox is dead (was too quiet)
[22:41] <Flannel> Juest: If you're not interested in resolving your mute at the moment, and if there's nothing else this channel can do for you, I'm going to ask you leave and come back once you're interested in resolving your mute.
[22:42] <Juest> i am interested to resolve the unmute
[22:42] <Juest> so i stay
[22:43] <Juest> checking #vbox, always too quiet :(
[22:43] <Flannel> Juest: We've already told you: You need to read the guidelines.  This is the only way you'll be unmuted.  You have said you won't do so, therefore you aren't interested at resolving your mute.
[22:43] <Juest> OK, CYA!!!!
[22:45] <topyli> the android community is hardly the best benchmark for civility :(
[22:46] <Pici> A shame really.
[22:50] <topyli> indeed
[23:28] <Pici> More lars-like behavior.