[00:59] <bdmurray> are any of my testing friends around?
[01:08] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I just ran into a potential error
[01:08] <bdmurray> with being my testing friend?
[01:08] <patrickmw> just double checking
[01:08] <patrickmw> LOL
[01:25] <bdmurray> patrickmw: if you could confirm bug 770590 that'd be great
[01:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770590 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Canonical Partners software listing is confusingly incomplete (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770590
[01:25] <patrickmw> bdmurray, ok. checking now
[01:32] <patrickmw> bdmurray, interesting...
[01:32] <patrickmw> bdmurray, since I had the parters repo enabled at startup I check if the package displayed, and it did
[01:33] <patrickmw> then I disabled the partners repo and let the cache update
[01:34] <patrickmw> searching for "sun-java6" displayed the related package names
[01:34] <patrickmw> then I re-enabled the repo, let the cache update, and now nothing displays when I search "sun-java6"
[01:35] <bdmurray> hunh, that sounds related but different
[01:35] <patrickmw> bdmurray, yeah its no the same, I'm running apt-get update and seeing what happens
[01:38] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I just tested that on a machine that I've been updating since beta 1.  I just noticed some other odd things with my software-center.  I have a new VM about to finish an install with the most recent image and I'll check again
[01:47] <patrickmw> bdmurray, with a new install, I enabled the canonical partners repos.  After the cache updated I still couldn't find any of the sun-java6 packages.
[01:52] <patrickmw> bdmurray, even after restarting USC.
[01:56] <bdmurray> patrickmw: its in the technical section
[01:57] <bdmurray> like click show technical stuff towards the bottom
[01:57] <patrickmw> bdmurray, oh yeah ,thanks.  i'll check this again
[02:06] <patrickmw> bdmurray, Ive had the tech packages displayed the whole time.
[02:06] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I've tried following your steps in the bug, but maybe I'm missing something
[02:07] <patrickmw> on the Other Software tab, I checked the Canonical Partner boxes
[02:08] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I have all updates enabled except backports
[02:16] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I updated the ticket.  I wonder if I was opening USC to quickly before it fully closed
[06:24] <skaet> jibel,  around?
[06:25] <skaet> Am looking for someone to confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/770256 with the new images.
[06:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770256 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Reboots after Wubi install via ubiquity repeatedly ask to uninstall (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[07:17] <skaet> all,  there's now a fresh set of images on the iso tracker.   If smoke testing reveals any glitches, please flag loudly here and in #ubuntu-release.
[07:22] <skaet> uijltje - why are you bouncing in and out?   bad connection?
[08:59] <jibel> chadadavis, hi, bug 770275 is specific to amd64+mac ? I can't reproduce on i386 or amd64
[08:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770275 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer suggests wrong default keyboard for locale (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770275
[09:02] <chadadavis> This might be related to my last comment on bug 770275
[09:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770275 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer suggests wrong default keyboard for locale (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770275
[09:02] <chadadavis> jibel, ^
[09:03] <chadadavis> jibel, yes, sorry, that's they one you were talking about. Yes, doing them in parallel now. They're different.
[09:03] <jibel> chadadavis, okay, I'm confirming it then, since I've no mac to test it on.
[09:04] <chadadavis> jibel, I'll do it again on my next round of mac tests to confirm as well
[09:04] <jibel> chadadavis, k
[09:05] <jibel> chadadavis, also I've been able to reproduce bug 770253 with german but it doesn't affect every non-english languages.
[09:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770253 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Slideshow window larger than the slides with some non-english languages (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770253
[09:06] <chadadavis> jibel, yeah, I didn't have the problem with French, despite that French also is susceptible to bug 758621
[09:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 758621 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Need translated fallback message in gnome-session (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758621
[09:07] <chadadavis> Sorry that was wrong, one second ...
[09:07] <chadadavis> jibel, French also has this bug 628159 though
[09:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 628159 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Some ubiquity slideshow titles go (smaller) to a new line (affects: 2) (heat: 27)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628159
[09:09] <jibel> chadadavis, are you still experiencing it ? I had it a while ago but it seems to be fixed.
[09:10] <chadadavis> jibel, still having it with German (20110425.2) and I'm pretty sure I had it yesterday with French (don't recall if mac or not). I'll keep an eye out for it and try to reproduce it.
[09:12] <jibel> Good morning skaet
[09:13] <skaet> good morning jibel
[09:13] <jibel> skaet, how was your trip ?
[09:17] <cjwatson> jibel: OK, I'm in London now and ready to look at this LVM install bug.  Do you have a recipe for me so that I can reproduce it locally?  That's probably easiest.
[09:17] <skaet> jibel,  heh, it was economy,  'nuf said.  ;)
[09:34] <jibel> cjwatson, I summarized the setup here http://paste.ubuntu.com/599179/
[09:44] <jibel> cjwatson, I forgot to mention, create a maverick system with this setup, then boot the system from the natty server iso, it hangs when it starts the partitioner (before the menu is displayed)
[09:53] <cjwatson> and you said the 'export' bit was the key to reproducing this?
[10:04] <jibel> cjwatson, yes. without a partition on export, it's fine.
[10:07] <cjwatson> jibel: right, I was wondering if I needed to bother with the iSCSI bit
[10:08] <cjwatson> jibel: in fact, presumably the iSCSI export isn't actually running at the time
[10:08] <cjwatson> so it shouldn't matter
[10:08] <cjwatson> I didn't even know you *could* create a partition table on an LV
[10:09] <cjwatson> I mean logically I suppose you must be able to, but ...
[10:15]  * cjwatson tries
[10:17] <jibel> cjwatson, I guess it was created from the iscsi client when he installed lucid on this device
[10:19] <cjwatson> I suppose if you already have a VG it's a rational thing to do
[10:41] <cjwatson> jibel: OK, reproduced it, excellent
[10:42]  * cjwatson breaks out slightly bigger hammers
[10:44] <cjwatson> (strace -f partman)
[10:49] <cjwatson> RIGHT
[11:52] <jibel> anyone with an nvidia card and proprietary drivers installed can confirm bug 766995 ?
[11:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 766995 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth is not centered on nVidia with proprietary drivers (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766995
[11:56] <jibel> chadadavis, about bug 770251, german is only on i386
[11:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770251 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Live CD not localized (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770251
[12:00] <chadadavis> jibel, is that the case for French too then? Which languages should be on which CDs?
[12:01] <jibel> chadadavis, french has been removed from all the iso, not enough space. I think the bug is in the documentation since we can't extend the cd to fit them all.
[12:02] <jibel> chadadavis, when you write "the documentation states that German is supposed to be on the CD." which documentation are you referring to ? do you have the link ?
[12:03] <chadadavis> jibel, OK, I'll mark it invalid. I must have been thinking of the test descriptions, which are maybe not up to date. Yes, I was also asking you for the same link ;-)
[12:04] <jibel> chadadavis, I think it's a valid documentation bug.
[12:05] <davmor2> jibel: I'm on natty amd64 on this nvidia box, the ubuntu logo is out on shutdown but not start up, I'm assuming a kms issue is to blame
[12:06] <chadadavis> jibel, it seems the bug is that one can choose languages at boot that aren't available on the live CD.
[12:07] <jibel> chadadavis, right, and only very few parts of the desktop are translated, but the first time you log in after installation, the language-selector must pop up and ask to install the incomplete langpacks
[12:12] <chadadavis> jibel, is this more of a feature request, to expect that the languages in the boot menu should correspond to what is actually on the live CD? I guess the menu is boot menu is static.
[12:14] <jibel> chadadavis, in needs discussion, but if you select a language it is used by the installer even if the langpack is not on the ISO. So the installation is localized with the choice you made at boot time.
[12:16]  * jibel -> lunch
[12:16] <chadadavis> jibel, right. Makes sense. Thanks.
[13:34] <jibel> All, we are currently rebuilding alternate and server images.
[13:50] <hggdh> good morning jibel, how are things going?
[14:31] <cjwatson> Ubuntu server, Ubuntu alternate, Kubuntu alternate posted
[14:37] <stgraber> rsyncing ubuntu alternate for LTSP testing (i386 + amd64)
[14:37]  * pedro_ syncing
[14:44] <stgraber> that's a lot of jibel ;)
[14:45] <jibel__> stgraber, sorry about that. My provider is playing with the connection and changing my ip every 2 minutes :/
[14:51] <cjwatson> Xubuntu alternate posted
[14:51] <charlie-tca> syncing
[14:52] <charlie-tca> thank you
[15:17] <cjwatson> Ubuntu Studio posted
[15:37] <charlie-tca> both Xubuntu Alternate images failed
[15:37] <charlie-tca> abiword fails to install
[15:37] <charlie-tca> skaet, jibel ^ ^ ^
[15:37] <jibel> charlie-tca, :/
[15:37] <charlie-tca> first time in a week
[15:38] <ScottK> charlie-tca: What's the error?
[15:38] <skaet> charlie-tca, details?
[15:39] <charlie-tca> packages have unmet dependencies
[15:39] <jibel> charlie-tca, can you file a report and attach the installer log files please.
[15:39] <charlie-tca> yup
[15:39] <charlie-tca> filing now
[15:39] <skaet> was the prior xubuntu prior alternate ok?
[15:39] <charlie-tca> checked both 32 and 64bit images first
[15:39] <jibel> and paste the bug number to #u-release
[15:39] <charlie-tca> skaet: Ì don't know. I did not get a chance to test the images from last night
[15:40] <charlie-tca> (less than 10 hours between images)
[15:42] <cjwatson> sorry, I should have caught this from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/report.html before posting
[15:42] <charlie-tca> need a bug on it then?
[15:42] <cjwatson> none of the other images I just posted have uninstallables
[15:43] <cjwatson> yes, though I'm unsure where
[15:43] <cjwatson> it's installable from the archive
[15:43] <charlie-tca> It's worked until now
[15:43]  * cjwatson takes advantage of office bandwidth
[15:48] <charlie-tca> bug 771277
[15:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771277 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "packages have unmet dependencies installing Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771277
[15:48] <charlie-tca> attaching the rest of the logs now
[15:51] <charlie-tca> muonata herre?
[15:52] <charlie-tca> I would like to know the test environment being used by muonata; says the images are working
[15:55] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: the catch-all package for alternate CDs is debian-installer rather than ubiquity, FYI
[15:55] <charlie-tca> crap
[15:55] <charlie-tca> I forgot
[15:55] <cjwatson> reassigned
[15:55] <charlie-tca> thanks
[15:56] <cjwatson> (though it's not actually an installer bug, but that'll do for the moment - as I say it's a catch-all)
[15:57] <charlie-tca> downloading 20110425.3 to check it
[15:58] <davmor2> jibel: the bluetooth icon is missing from EN_GB installs in system setting
[16:08] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: you don't need to download the full ISO - it's in report.html
[16:08] <charlie-tca> oh
[16:12] <cjwatson>  libabiword-2.8 : Depends: libwv-1.2-3 (>= 1.2.4) but it is not installable
[16:12] <cjwatson> (having set up chdist)
[16:12] <cjwatson> wtf, that's in the archive
[16:13] <cjwatson> Link from /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/pool/universe/w/wv/libwv-1.2-3_1.2.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb to /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/xubuntu/daily/tmp/natty-i386/CD1/pool/universe/w/wv/libwv-1.2-3_1.2.4-2ub
[16:13] <cjwatson> says the CD build log
[16:13] <cjwatson> untu3_i386.deb failed: No such file or directory
[16:14] <cjwatson> -rw-rw-r-- 1 cdimage cdimage 136866 2010-03-07 07:04 /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/pool/universe/w/wv/libwv-1.2-3_1.2.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[16:14] <bdmurray> what is our evaluation criteria for the serious checkbox on the iso tracker?
[16:15] <cjwatson> and the target exists too
[16:19] <cjwatson> I'm just going to rebuild Xubuntu and hope for the best; I can see no reason why that should have faile
[16:19] <cjwatson> d
[16:20] <charlie-tca> thank you
[16:20]  * cjwatson crosses fingers
[16:28] <ScottK> And then get the wubi fix as an added bonus.
[16:31] <charlie-tca> wubi is desktop image, fails are alternate images
[16:35] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I've always wondered that myself
[16:35] <Samsagax> hi there, anyone tested any laptop?
[16:35] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I could find anything  on qa.ubuntu.com site about it
[16:35] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I reported a bug about so we can work on it in the future
[16:36] <Samsagax> i'm doing that tonight
[16:36] <patrickmw> s/could/couldn't
[16:36] <patrickmw> bdmurray, ok cool
[17:01] <cjwatson> That seems to have worked.  Spooky
[17:01] <charlie-tca> very
[17:01] <cjwatson> posted
[17:02] <charlie-tca> thanks, I will grab it and try again
[17:07] <jibel> any tester for powerpc ?
[17:40] <skaet> jibel,  luke yelavitch is signed up for ubuntu desktop.    Is he around?
[17:41] <skaet> Riddell, jussi - have you been able to start on kubuntu desktop powerpc/32 ?
[17:42] <jibel> skaet, no he's not. He's UTC+10
[17:43] <skaet> jibel,  thanks for info on luke.  Will keep an eye out for him later.
[17:44] <Riddell> skaet: tm_t says he'll do that this European evening
[17:44] <charlie-tca> looks like xubuntu alternate is okay again.
[17:44] <jibel> charlie-tca, confirmed
[18:05] <skaet> Riddell,  thanks.
[18:12] <patdk-wk> hmm, iscsi tests still failing with same issues
[18:15] <jibel> Daviey, ^ can you check with patdk-wk what differs from your setup. We need to figure if it fails under specific circumstances or if it's a more global issue with iscsi
[18:15] <patdk-wk> ya, I tried so many variables in my setup, and it always fails for me
[18:21] <cjwatson> I wish I could reproduce it
[18:22] <cjwatson> it worked fine for me, although I didn't have time for more than a straight-through test in my pre-existing setup (iscsitarget in host, install in kvm guest)
[18:23] <patdk-wk> ya, mine is split over 3 servers, dhcp server, tftp/iscsitarget, and the client
[18:26] <patdk-wk> I find it strange that disabling open-iscsi makes it all happy though
[18:26] <cjwatson> Ubuntu desktop, Kubuntu desktop, Xubuntu desktop posted (Wubi fix)
[18:27] <charlie-tca> thank you
[18:31] <jibel> for those who want to try, I added support for powerpc, amd64+mac, kubuntu-mobile and armel images to dl-ubuntu-test-iso
[18:31] <jibel> it is not packaged yet but available from bzr lp:ubuntu-qa-tools
[18:40] <patrickmw> stgraber, somehow I busted my internal network.  Well, at least I think that's what the problem is.  If your ltsp server's internal network can't connect let me know.  Again, I'm pretty sure I broke it though
[18:52] <stgraber> patrickmw: I got a working LTSP setup on amd64, testing i386 now
[18:55] <stgraber> i386 works fine too
[18:56] <stgraber> ok, I'm done with my usual tests (alternate + edubuntu), will start doing some desktop build testing now
[19:01] <patrickmw> stgraber, thanks for picking those up :)
[19:02] <cjwatson> ubuntu headless omap3 posted
[20:11] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: what image were you using in bug 770349?
[20:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770349 in linux (Ubuntu) "live session start muted, a11y installation impossible (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770349
[20:12] <bdmurray> my live session is not muted now
[20:12] <charlie-tca> I can reproduce with any image using the right soundcard
[20:12] <charlie-tca> It is hardware specific
[20:12] <bdmurray> okay well the title doesn't make that clear
[20:12] <charlie-tca> It is not related to screen-reader install, it is related to the hardware
[20:13] <charlie-tca> I can even reproduce it with any release ;-)
[20:13] <charlie-tca> and it also affects fabio's installations. It is not limited to live cd
[20:13] <charlie-tca> His sound is always muted on the first boot into a new install.
[20:14] <charlie-tca> once it is unmuted, it reboots unmuted
[20:20] <charlie-tca> bdmurray: changed the title to reflect the actual issue
[20:41] <charlie-tca> bdmurray: I am sorry if I snapped at you about the bug. It took me two days to get all the info out of the reporter
[20:42] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: oh no problem
[20:42] <charlie-tca> thanks for looking at it
[20:42] <stgraber> Ubuntu netbook armel omap3 finished building and is now on the tracker
[21:01] <astraljava> Hey guys, anyone else see just blinking cursor when booting into encrypted entire disk install, and needing to switch to VT[1-6] and then back to 7 again to see the unlock with the passphrase dialog?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> both of mine on hardware worked
[21:01] <astraljava> This is on Ubuntu Studio amd64 iso testing.
[21:01] <stgraber> encrypted worked fine for me, in a VM though (kvm) so didn't get the nice KMS enabled splash
[21:02] <astraljava> So I'm looking at filing a bug, then?
[21:44] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I could use some help with bug 760275
[21:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760275 in Ubuntu Natty (and 2 other projects) "simplified chinese has missing label translations for applets (affects: 1) (heat: 471)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760275
[21:45] <patrickmw> I would like to create the individual bugs, but I'm not 100% which package all the affected applets are associated to
[21:46] <patrickmw> bdmurray, the attached pdf should be enough info, but let me know its its not
[23:53] <patrickmw> bdmurray, the only indicator I'm having trouble with in the one with the envelope
[23:54] <bdmurray> not inidcator-messages?
[23:57] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I believe indicator-messages is the the chat bubble
[23:58] <bdmurray> patrickmw: if you look at bugs at https://launchpad.net/indicator-messages/+bugs I think I'm right
[23:58] <patrickmw> then can you help me find what the chat bubble is?
[23:59] <bdmurray> can you paste hte pdf link again?