[02:40] <dmcglone> 2 more days till release everybody excited?
[02:41] <Cheri703> eh
[02:42] <canthus13> Why would they release something that won't install?
[02:45] <dmcglone> having problems canthus13?
[02:47] <canthus13> dmcglone: Sure. it takes several hours before crashing when I try to install. And I don't appear to be the only person.
[02:47] <canthus13> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/601299
[02:47] <dmcglone> is it a beta release
[02:49] <canthus13> True. But it's not fixed yet, and only 2 days 'til release?
[02:49] <Unit193> 3 Days
[02:50] <dmcglone> I bet they are scrambling to fix this one
[02:51] <canthus13> I'd hope so.
[02:51] <canthus13> I may upgrade... Just as long as they keep the classic gnome option. I despise unity.
[02:52] <dmcglone> I agree
[02:52] <dmcglone> what version will this release be?
[02:53] <canthus13> 11.04?
[02:53] <canthus13> Or do you mean unity?
[02:53] <dmcglone> Ubuntu
[02:54] <canthus13> Ah. 11.04
[02:57] <Cheri703> I'll download it, but won't do anything beyond liveboot for QUITE a while. I just upgraded to 10.10 like a month or so ago
[02:57] <dmcglone> ok, I'm looking at all the changes that will be in it
[02:58] <dmcglone> Cheri703: I've been running 10.10 since it's release
[02:59] <Unit193> I'm running the beta (that got a bad upgrade...)
[03:00] <dmcglone> I sure hope they don't release it with the rc kernal :-/
[03:04]  * dmcglone is checking out fedora
[03:05] <Unit193> Why? You should take a look at Xubuntu (stay in the debian family)
[03:07] <dmcglone> I'll check that out too
[03:08] <Cheri703> \o/ one of my packages has arrived at the post office in mansfield, one of them is in transit to mansfield, HOPEFULLY should get both tomorrow !!
[03:08] <Unit193> Packages? You didn't just get it from the repo? ;)
[03:09] <Cheri703> one is an order from amazon (ink and such), the other is MY NETBOOOOOOOK!!!!
[03:10] <Cheri703> I'm so freaking eager to get it back
[03:13] <dmcglone> 8 minutes to download an ISO :-)
[03:13] <canthus13> dmcglone: Woohoo.
[03:14] <dmcglone> canthus13: tell me about it
[03:14] <dmcglone> I've never seen ISO's DL that fast
[03:15]  * canthus13 has. :)
[03:15] <canthus13> all the time.
[03:16]  * canthus13 debates upgrading to 50/3.  He could use the increased upload speed....
[03:16] <Cheri703> I don't upload much
[03:16] <dmcglone> what tool do I use to create a install USB stick?
[03:16] <canthus13> unetbootin
[03:17] <Cheri703> are you in ubuntu now?
[03:17] <canthus13> or the usb creator in the system menu.
[03:17] <Cheri703> I use the usb creator
[03:17] <Cheri703> it's easier generally
[03:18] <dmcglone> ok I see the USB creator
[03:20] <dmcglone> do different distro's tweek the applications to their own liking?
[03:20] <Unit193> Default applications
[03:21] <canthus13> dmcglone: most don't do it to near the extent that ubuntu does.
[03:22] <dmcglone> It's been so long since I've done any research. I can't even remember the last distro I used, before switching to Kubuntu, then Ubuntu
[03:23] <dmcglone> I'm way out of touch
[03:23] <Unit193> I have a folder called ISOs that's 17.6 GB
[03:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: Hmm... I think the last distro I used before ubuntu was Gentoo.
[03:27] <dmcglone> the startup disk creator is asking me what device to use and it only lets it be erased and my HD hdb is the only listed and no choice to change it
[03:32] <canthus13> Try unetbootin instead.
[03:34] <dmcglone> I got it, my USB stick is actually sdb1 but now it will not let me choose an ISO. I think it only works with Ubuntu ISO's :-/
[03:36] <dmcglone> Oh wow, it will not let me choose the fedora ISO
[03:36] <Cheri703> oh, yeah, the built in one only works with ubuntu
[03:36] <Cheri703> sorry
[03:37] <dmcglone> haha, that shady on Ubuntu's part
[03:38]  * dmcglone is installing unetbootin
[03:40] <canthus13> unetbootin installs any ISO.
[03:41] <dmcglone> it's working
[03:41] <dmcglone> how shady of Ubuntu to do that :-/
[03:41] <Cheri703> eh, it's just set up to work with their stuff
[03:43] <dmcglone> I guess. LOL
[03:43] <Unit193> Does the Ubuntu one work with persistance?
[03:44] <dmcglone> I couldn't say, it wouldn't let me use it LOL
[03:44] <dmcglone> I'll be back in a minute, gonna reboot
[03:45] <Cheri703> Unit193: yes, you just have to set it up that way
[03:56] <dmcglone> Ok back
[03:58] <dmcglone> I forgot I needed to set up my wireless card
[04:11] <dmcglone> well, I'm out all have a good one :-)
[04:33] <canthus13> paultag: Hey... is there a Fluxbox Desktop metapackage?
[04:34] <paultag> canthus13: nosir. I made one a while back, but no one cared
[04:34] <paultag> canthus13: looking for some goodies>
[04:34] <paultag> sed s/>/?/g
[04:34] <canthus13> bummer. I was poking around at openbox, but it's pretty much useless as it is in ubuntu. :(
[04:35] <paultag> canthus13: fluxbox, fbautostart, nautilus, gnome-do is what I do
[04:35] <canthus13> I'm looking for something similar to crunchbang's layout.
[04:35]  * canthus13 likes crunchbang, but development is too erratic.
[04:36] <paultag> canthus13: not hard to get together, but nothing is set up for it, nope
[04:36] <paultag> good project, though
[04:36] <paultag> ok, I need some help, though (for realsie)
[04:36] <canthus13> Oh?
[04:36] <paultag> I need to set up an LLC so I can do consulting work for real life work (got an offer)
[04:36] <paultag> and I need a name
[04:37] <canthus13> Cool. :)
[04:37]  * canthus13 would love to get into consulting... Needs to nail down a few certs first.
[04:38] <canthus13> If I think of something, I'll let ya know.
[04:38] <paultag> canthus13: thanks man :)
[04:39] <canthus13> any time.
[04:39] <paultag> canthus13: yeah, I'm doing some software consulting work
[04:39] <paultag> should be nice
[04:39] <canthus13> Nice.  I'm more interested in small business network consulting...
[04:39] <paultag> aye :)
[04:40] <canthus13> ...Which is pretty much windows only until viable accounting software is available for Linux.
[04:41] <paultag> meh, I'll just write my own
[04:41] <paultag> screw it
[04:41] <paultag> I don't want to deal with crapware
[04:41] <paultag> just format and output LaTeX invoices and stuff from the DB
[04:41] <paultag> then render that out to PDF or whatever
[04:42] <paultag> fuck it :)
[04:46] <paultag> BBL
[04:48] <Cheri703> someone make me some food and bring it to mansfield, k?
[04:48] <canthus13> Hah. Bake me some cookies and maybe we'll talk...
[04:49] <Cheri703> I still have some left from saturday night...
[04:49] <canthus13> I'd have a hard time getting it to Mansfield, though.
[04:49] <Cheri703> hongry
[04:49] <Cheri703> don't want to make anything
[04:51] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:52] <Cheri703> we have a ton of dishes to do, and we need to clean out our fridge...tomorrow is housework day...until my netbook arrives, and then we'll be having private time :D
[04:53] <Cheri703> *netbook and I
[13:42] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[15:31] <Unit193> Hello Derath-Srvr !
[16:13] <Derath-Srvr> how's it going Unit?
[16:14] <Derath-Srvr> You going to be there this weekend?>
[16:15] <Unit193> I don't think I can :/ I really wanted to see all the people from IRC...
[16:15] <Derath-Srvr> :(
[16:17] <Unit193> I have something at 6pm... Are you going?
[16:18] <Derath-Srvr> I believe I am...
[16:18] <Derath-Srvr> Nothing's stopping me at this point, but will know more as weekend gets closer
[16:19] <Derath-Srvr> nicotine time, bbl
[20:42]  * Derath-Srvr sighs
[20:43] <Cheri703> paultag or anyone else from cleveland going to the thing on sunday?
[20:43] <paultag> Cheri703: not sure
[20:43] <paultag> Cheri703: I'm not, finals time :(
[20:44] <Cheri703> :(
[20:44]  * Cheri703 needs to try to find a ride, the people who I'd normally borrow a car from are on one car right now :/
[20:44] <Cheri703> so I can't
[20:44] <paultag> Cheri703: :(
[20:45] <Cheri703> yeah
[20:45] <Cheri703> I really want to go!
[20:45] <paultag> Cheri703: yeah, me too!
[20:45] <paultag> I'd rather be living it up then doing this bullscrit :)
[20:46] <Cheri703> yeah
[20:46] <Cheri703> OMG PAUL MY NETBOOK ARRIVES TODAY AND LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO UDS
[20:46] <paultag> LD
[20:46] <paultag> :D *
[20:46] <Cheri703> I'm waaaaaaaaaaiting for the UPS guy
[20:46] <Cheri703> he comes usually between 5 and 7 :(
[20:56] <Cheri703> IT'S HEEEEEEERE
[20:56] <Cheri703> I will be gone for a while to clone my stuff back over :) :)
[21:00] <canthus13> canthus13: Just remember... Don't hug it tooo tight. ;)
[21:01] <canthus13> bah. Missed.
[21:01] <Unit193> Talking to yourself?
[21:19] <canthus13> Unit193: Looks like it.
[21:20] <canthus13> Meh. why clone? Just swap the drive from one machine to the other.... :/
[21:22] <Unit193> External drive
[22:54] <canthus13> Cheri703: Yay?
[22:55] <Cheri703> yay indeed!
[22:55]  * Cheri703 is using netbook :)
[22:55] <Cheri703> do any of you know anything about bluetooth in ubuntu?
[22:55] <canthus13> Awesome!  Sully's gonna go to De Ja Vu before he heads to europe.  (Gonna get a pic of him in front of the sign on the way home...)
[22:55] <canthus13> Cheri703: Yeah. It sucks.
[22:55] <Cheri703> kk
[22:56] <Cheri703> my device manager is saying something about bluetooth (they replaced the netbook, so it's mildly feasible it might have it), but I dunno anything about it
[22:56] <canthus13> It might...
[22:57] <canthus13> Cheri703: paste lspci..
[22:57]  * canthus13 has bluetooth come up for no reason on machines that don't have it, though.
[22:58] <Cheri703> hmm...it doesn't show it there
[22:58] <Cheri703> I dunno, I'm not too worried about it
[23:22] <canthus13> I think ubuntu misinterprets some wireless adapters as multifunction bluetooth/wireless cards...