[08:49] <alkisg> I'm trying to pass 'us,gr' as the keyboard layouts in Xephyr, but the comma is seen as a parameter separator so it doesn't work:
[08:49] <alkisg> $ Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout=us,gr,xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1
[08:49] <alkisg> [it gives me this warning]: Kbd option key (gr) of value ((null)) not assigned!
[08:49] <alkisg> Does anyone know the correct syntax?
[08:50] <tjaalton> use doublequotes?
[08:51] <alkisg> I tried them around "us,gr", but I got the same warning (and still not working):
[08:51] <alkisg> Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout="us,gr",xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1
[08:54] <RAOF> You might need to escape the quotes; it's possible your shell is eating them.
[08:54] <alkisg> I also tried \", nothing, and I tried to quote the whole command line in '', again no joy
[08:55] <alkisg> Xephyr :1 -keybd 'ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout="us,gr",xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge' -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1
[08:55] <alkisg> Kbd option key (gr") of value ((null)) not assigned!
[09:00] <alkisg> Is some other separator acceptable, like e.g. xkblayout=us|gr ?
[09:07] <alkisg> Ah, got it: $ Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout=us+gr:2,xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_toggle -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1
[09:08] <tjaalton> how did you figure it out? no manpage even mentions '-keybd'
[09:08] <alkisg> Yup I know :(
[09:09] <alkisg> I googled and googled and found some broken examples
[09:09] <tjaalton> ok
[09:09] <alkisg> Then 2 hours later I got it working with trial and error :-/
[13:56] <ScottK> alkisg: It might be useful to file a bug with suggestions for improving the man page while this experience is fresh in your mind.
[14:00] <alkisg> ScottK: hmm ok, but against which package? the Xephyr man page only lists 3 options, maybe those that are specific to Xephyr itself. Maybe the rest of the options are Xorg options, to be documented in `man X`? But I can't even find "query" in `man X`...
[14:01] <alkisg> Is "X -query" documented someplace else?
[14:01] <ScottK> Dunno.  
[14:01] <tjaalton> Source: xorg-server
[14:01] <ScottK> There we go.
[14:02] <alkisg> Ah, "query" is documented in `man xserver`
[14:23] <alkisg> `Xephyr --help` does show the available TinyX options. So they're just missing from the Xephyr manpage...
[17:15] <Sarvatt> http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110413-natty.html errr nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 is in the archive?
[17:17] <Sarvatt> been in there since karmic apparently, dont think thats intentional
[20:42] <bryceh> Sarvatt, yeah was wondering about that myself.  Shouldn't we drop it (or at least close out the bugs)?
[20:45] <tjaalton> should be removed
[20:49] <tjaalton> maybe bugbot would then stop reassigning bugs there :)
[20:51] <Sarvatt> bryceh: did you mean to have a desktopcouch dependency in xdiagnose?
[20:51] <bryceh> Sarvatt, no
[20:52] <bryceh> Sarvatt, I used quickly to generate the project, I'll bet that pulled it in for preferences or some such (which I don't use)
[20:53] <bryceh> heh, I ended up deleting so much stuff quickly generated it would have been easier to generate the project from scratch ;-)
[20:54] <bryceh> tjaalton, does bugbot assign bugs there?  if so I should fix that.  Thought it was directing them to the general nvidia package
[20:54] <Sarvatt> wasn't sure if there was some feature you were planning that used it or something
[20:54] <tjaalton> bryceh: bug 718742 as an example
[20:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 718742 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Cyborg R.A.T.7 Right Click Issue (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718742
[20:55] <bryceh> tjaalton, thanks I'll investigate
[20:55] <tjaalton> or bug 765850
[20:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765850 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 (Ubuntu) "unable to rotate display left or right (affects: 1) (heat: 3257)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765850
[20:58] <bryceh> heh, I've got some weird bug where sometimes right clicking to bring up the context menu in chromium causes the area that was occupied by the context menu to remain (doesn't re-render) showing a static clipping from the browser window 
[20:59] <bryceh> vt switching causes those regions to turn gray
[20:59] <bryceh> a sufficient amount of switching desktops seems to eventually make the issue go away
[21:01] <bryceh> this on an rv770 with -ati on 2.6.38.8.22
[21:04] <tjaalton> hmm bug 771344 is the one jane has?
[21:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771344 in xorg (Ubuntu) "external monitor does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771344
[21:04] <bryceh> yeah I think all those arrandale bugs are the same
[21:05] <bryceh> tjaalton, seems to be fixed with newer kernel, but having hard time finding someone willing to bisect
[21:06] <seb128> you might be able to convince pitti to try ;-)
[21:09] <bryceh> ok bugbot's nvidia-180 issue is fixed
[21:12] <bryceh> ok desktopcouch excised from xdiagnose.
[21:22] <tjaalton> bryceh: good to hear that there's progress
[21:22] <cnd> bryceh, tjaalton: either of you interested in trying to resolve bug 762768?
[21:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762768 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "cannot select text with left click with touchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762768
[21:23] <cnd> I think the resolution would be to try to get the input device properties to find out if it's a clickpad
[21:23] <cnd> input device properties are a new functionality of the kernel evdev interface in natty
[21:23] <cnd> if it's a clickpad, then set the area bottom edge
[21:23] <cnd> I'd take it and fix it myself, but I'm swamped right now
[21:24] <cnd> there should already be some code in my synaptics patches to determine if the trackpad is semi-mt, so you can use that as reference
[21:33] <bryceh> cnd, can you describe what needs done on the bug report itself?  Then whichever of us wants to pick it up can take it from there
[21:35] <cnd> bryceh, yeah