[08:49] I'm trying to pass 'us,gr' as the keyboard layouts in Xephyr, but the comma is seen as a parameter separator so it doesn't work: [08:49] $ Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout=us,gr,xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1 [08:49] [it gives me this warning]: Kbd option key (gr) of value ((null)) not assigned! [08:49] Does anyone know the correct syntax? [08:50] use doublequotes? [08:51] I tried them around "us,gr", but I got the same warning (and still not working): [08:51] Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout="us,gr",xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1 [08:54] You might need to escape the quotes; it's possible your shell is eating them. [08:54] I also tried \", nothing, and I tried to quote the whole command line in '', again no joy [08:55] Xephyr :1 -keybd 'ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout="us,gr",xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge' -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1 [08:55] Kbd option key (gr") of value ((null)) not assigned! [09:00] Is some other separator acceptable, like e.g. xkblayout=us|gr ? [09:07] Ah, got it: $ Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout=us+gr:2,xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_toggle -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query 127.0.0.1 [09:08] how did you figure it out? no manpage even mentions '-keybd' [09:08] Yup I know :( [09:09] I googled and googled and found some broken examples [09:09] ok [09:09] Then 2 hours later I got it working with trial and error :-/ [13:56] alkisg: It might be useful to file a bug with suggestions for improving the man page while this experience is fresh in your mind. [14:00] ScottK: hmm ok, but against which package? the Xephyr man page only lists 3 options, maybe those that are specific to Xephyr itself. Maybe the rest of the options are Xorg options, to be documented in `man X`? But I can't even find "query" in `man X`... [14:01] Is "X -query" documented someplace else? [14:01] Dunno. [14:01] Source: xorg-server [14:01] There we go. [14:02] Ah, "query" is documented in `man xserver` [14:23] `Xephyr --help` does show the available TinyX options. So they're just missing from the Xephyr manpage... [17:15] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110413-natty.html errr nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 is in the archive? [17:17] been in there since karmic apparently, dont think thats intentional === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:42] Sarvatt, yeah was wondering about that myself. Shouldn't we drop it (or at least close out the bugs)? [20:45] should be removed [20:49] maybe bugbot would then stop reassigning bugs there :) [20:51] bryceh: did you mean to have a desktopcouch dependency in xdiagnose? [20:51] Sarvatt, no [20:52] Sarvatt, I used quickly to generate the project, I'll bet that pulled it in for preferences or some such (which I don't use) [20:53] heh, I ended up deleting so much stuff quickly generated it would have been easier to generate the project from scratch ;-) [20:54] tjaalton, does bugbot assign bugs there? if so I should fix that. Thought it was directing them to the general nvidia package [20:54] wasn't sure if there was some feature you were planning that used it or something [20:54] bryceh: bug 718742 as an example [20:54] Launchpad bug 718742 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Cyborg R.A.T.7 Right Click Issue (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718742 [20:55] tjaalton, thanks I'll investigate [20:55] or bug 765850 [20:55] Launchpad bug 765850 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 (Ubuntu) "unable to rotate display left or right (affects: 1) (heat: 3257)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765850 [20:58] heh, I've got some weird bug where sometimes right clicking to bring up the context menu in chromium causes the area that was occupied by the context menu to remain (doesn't re-render) showing a static clipping from the browser window [20:59] vt switching causes those regions to turn gray [20:59] a sufficient amount of switching desktops seems to eventually make the issue go away [21:01] this on an rv770 with -ati on 2.6.38.8.22 [21:04] hmm bug 771344 is the one jane has? [21:04] Launchpad bug 771344 in xorg (Ubuntu) "external monitor does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771344 [21:04] yeah I think all those arrandale bugs are the same [21:05] tjaalton, seems to be fixed with newer kernel, but having hard time finding someone willing to bisect [21:06] you might be able to convince pitti to try ;-) [21:09] ok bugbot's nvidia-180 issue is fixed [21:12] ok desktopcouch excised from xdiagnose. [21:22] bryceh: good to hear that there's progress [21:22] bryceh, tjaalton: either of you interested in trying to resolve bug 762768? [21:22] Launchpad bug 762768 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "cannot select text with left click with touchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762768 [21:23] I think the resolution would be to try to get the input device properties to find out if it's a clickpad [21:23] input device properties are a new functionality of the kernel evdev interface in natty [21:23] if it's a clickpad, then set the area bottom edge [21:23] I'd take it and fix it myself, but I'm swamped right now [21:24] there should already be some code in my synaptics patches to determine if the trackpad is semi-mt, so you can use that as reference [21:33] cnd, can you describe what needs done on the bug report itself? Then whichever of us wants to pick it up can take it from there [21:35] bryceh, yeah