[07:07] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:08] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:09] <Kilos> one question. on winsucks you install a usb modem and can see balances etc. do we have a way of doing that without putting sim in fone to see?
[07:09] <Kilos> hope your cold gtting better superfly 
[07:10] <Kilos> not lekker to feel sick and still work
[07:11] <superfly> Kilos: use the Betavine software
[07:12] <Kilos> ok ty superfly will look at that
[07:13] <hamub1> where does the msql database file reside in ubuntu linux, iwant to do a backup
[07:18] <nuvolari> use mysqldump?
[07:19] <nuvolari> I don't know where the file resides
[07:19] <nuvolari> :P
[07:19] <nuvolari> morning superfly , oom Kilos 
[07:20] <Kilos> hi nuv
[07:20] <Kilos> grr
[07:20] <Kilos> hiya nuvolari 
[07:20] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit met oom?
[07:21] <Kilos> baie goed dankie , en self
[07:21] <hamub1> ok guys igo it:-D
[07:23] <Kilos> superfly, do you on the offchance know how large the betavine software is. i see there are a few to download
[07:23] <Kilos> morning maiatoday 
[07:27] <maiatoday> hey Kilos
[07:43] <superfly> Kilos: no, I don't I'm afraid
[07:45] <Kilos> np. thank you
[07:49] <sakhi> mooning
[07:50] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[07:58] <superfly> Kilos: this is the one you want... https://forge.betavine.net/projects/vodafonemobilec/
[08:06] <superfly> Kilos: did you get that link I gave you?
[08:07] <Kilos> no superfly 
[08:07] <superfly> https://forge.betavine.net/projects/vodafonemobilec/
[08:07] <Kilos> went off to check balance on fone
[08:08] <Kilos> ty will go see i still got 135m
[08:08] <Kilos> i went to that one before
[08:09] <Kilos> http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/community/linux
[08:09] <Kilos> looks good
[08:10] <Kilos> also this modem is a alcatel tct modem
[08:10] <superfly> it's about 1.5 megs to download
[08:10] <Kilos> thats great i will get it ty superfly 
[08:12] <superfly> Kilos: don't forget to use GDebi to install it
[08:14] <Kilos> i am not sure what to actually download from there superfly 
[08:15] <Kilos> i use gdebi for most stuff that doesnt come from repos
[08:15] <Kilos> does
[08:15] <superfly> https://forge.betavine.net/frs/download.php/626/vodafone-mobile-connect_2.25.01-1_all.deb
[08:15] <Kilos> ty
[08:17]  * tumbleweed would recommend sticking to network-manager where possible, but yes that has always been rather good
[08:18] <superfly> tumbleweed: nm doesn't show you your balance, AFAIK, vodafone mobile connect does
[08:18] <tumbleweed> oh, that's rather cool
[08:19] <tumbleweed> someone needs to write a decent USSD tool for modemmanager
[08:19] <superfly> I think it's pretty much supposed to be a copy of the Windows software
[08:21] <Kilos> dependancy ozerocdoff. must i get that from them too superfly . its not in synaptic
[08:21] <tumbleweed> have you seen http://www.nerve.org.za/mdma/ (for windows?)
[08:21] <superfly> Kilos: yes
[08:21] <Kilos> or go the link i gave you and get their repo
[08:21] <tumbleweed> he seems keen to do something sane for modemmanager
[08:22] <superfly> Kilos: https://forge.betavine.net/frs/download.php/538/ozerocdoff_0.4-2_i386.deb
[08:29] <Kilos> oh great ty superfly . the other necessary files came outa the repos
[08:29] <Kilos> all python
[08:29] <superfly> yup
[08:30] <Kilos> hehe
[08:30] <Kilos> clever kids hey?
[08:30] <superfly> indeed
[08:34] <Kilos> now i gotta find the port the modem is in
[08:35] <Kilos> its in the 4 in 1 hub
[08:35] <Kilos> i try man betavine
[08:36] <Kilos> vodafone mobile connect i mean
[08:36] <Kilos> got it in man
[08:37] <Kilos> will see if i unnerstoods it
[08:37] <Kilos> hehe
[08:40] <superfly> Kilos: USB does not work the same as serial or parallel ports
[08:40] <superfly> there are no port numbers
[08:41] <Kilos> maybe i gotta disconnect the nm first
[08:51] <Kilos-> nope keeps saying could not open port errno 2
[08:52] <kilos> murphy back again. as jy kan sukkel sal jy
[08:59] <superfly> kilos: no, that's the pessimistic law, not Murphy's law
[09:04] <inetpro> good morning
[09:06] <superfly> hey inetpro, you at work, or taken some time off?
[09:06] <inetpro> yep at the office
[09:07] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[09:07] <inetpro> hiho Kilos
[09:07] <inetpro> Kilos: did you come right yet?
[09:07] <inetpro> sorry for not being able to help
[09:07] <Kilos> yip the modem works
[09:07] <inetpro> Kilos: very nice
[09:07] <Kilos> had to enter the 
[09:07] <Kilos> um
[09:07] <Kilos> network unlocking code
[09:08]  * superfly goes out for a bit
[09:08] <superfly> seeya later
[09:08] <Kilos> bit of what Sub_Oracle 
[09:08] <Kilos> hehe
[09:08] <Kilos> naughty boy
[09:08] <Kilos> eish
[09:08] <Kilos> that was for the fly
[09:10] <Kilos> can one send screen shots to a paste bin?
[09:10] <inetpro> Kilos: network unlocking code?
[09:10] <marcog> Kilos: use imgur.com
[09:11] <Kilos> it is from a site that that unlocks cellfones and modems inetpro 
[09:11] <Kilos> Maaz, unlock mobile
[09:11] <Maaz> http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-906388-p-63.html
[09:11] <inetpro> yikes
[09:11] <Kilos> its for mobiles stuck to one service provider
[09:12] <Kilos> ty marcog 
[09:12] <Kilos> and morning to ya
[09:14] <Kilos> i found my stc modem is actually an alcatel tct mobile modem just locked to stc in saudi
[09:14] <Kilos> took 2 days of gray hair
[09:14] <Kilos> lucky they too short to pull out
[09:14] <Kilos> hehe
[09:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[09:15]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:19] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:19] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[09:47] <Kilos> lo plustwo_ 
[09:48] <plustwo_> morning all
[09:48] <plustwo_> hi Kilos ...
[09:58] <Kilos> hi |3o|3 
[09:58] <|3o|3> hey Kilos
[09:58] <|3o|3> Lovely weather?
[10:00] <inetpro> is there something wrong with za.archive.ubuntu.com this morning? Downloads seem to be slow on this side. But maybe it's just a local issue.
[10:01] <plustwo_> well i tried to download this file from yesterday and it froze at 39% ... http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_270.41.06-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:36] <tumbleweed> inetpro: mirror.ac.za's debian archive has been broken for over a week. I don't have high expectations from them atm
[10:37] <inetpro> hmm....
[10:40] <drubin> it seems SF has taken all their time and effort
[10:41] <drubin> Symmetria: are the mirrors going to be fixed by next week for the release?
[13:39] <Kilos> ah superfly . my vodafone package doesnt find any devices. thats why it asked for port number
[13:40] <Kilos> no option of device settings, only custom settings
[13:47] <Kilos> its an alcatel modem. maybe thats why
[14:13] <Kilos> me very unhappy to see attendance so low here
[14:13] <Kilos> where has everyone gone
[14:49] <drubin> Kilos: we are here just quiet
[14:50] <Kilos> yeah drubin but so few
[15:22] <maiatoday> Kilos I am around but very busy
[15:22] <maiatoday> I should have organised a monthly meeting again but I had super stressful time with my studies
[15:22] <Kilos> good to know maiatoday 
[15:22] <Kilos> eish
[15:23] <Kilos> i dont need help ty. just we so few compared to last year
[15:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:28]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[15:29] <Kilos> Maaz, move it
[15:29] <Maaz> Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art
[15:30] <queery> haha
[15:30] <queery> that's so cool
[15:30] <queery> maaz, i love you
[15:30] <Maaz> queery: Excuse me?
[15:31] <queery> maaz, never mind
[15:31] <Maaz> queery: *blink*
[15:31] <queery> s/he does love me
[15:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:34] <queery> ok here's the deal with the cake for saterday
[15:34] <queery> I can't afford it
[15:35] <queery> it would cost us R260 for a massive one with ubuntu logo and stuff printed on
[15:35] <queery> and that is the only one we are allowed to take to the event
[15:36] <queery> maaz announce Any one want to sponsor the R260 for the Ubuntu cake?
[15:36] <Maaz> Announcement from queery! Any one want to sponsor the R260 for the Ubuntu cake
[15:38] <tumbleweed> I'm sure CLUG would be happy to
[15:38] <tumbleweed> I'll ask the rest of the committee tonight
[15:39] <queery> thanx buddy
[15:39] <queery> need to know asap so we can place an order
[15:40] <tumbleweed> 90% of packet loss on SEACOM ftl
[15:40] <tumbleweed> queery: order it
[15:40] <queery> serious
[15:40] <queery> ok
[15:41] <queery> need to make the print thing tonight then
[15:41] <tumbleweed> are you happy to be re-imbursed?
[15:41] <queery> the image i mean
[15:41] <queery> sure
[15:41] <tumbleweed> ok, please mail me an invoice
[15:41] <tumbleweed> or receipt
[15:41] <queery> i just put it on our invoice for the venue
[15:42] <tumbleweed> fine
[15:42] <queery> awesome
[15:42] <tumbleweed> actually I'll just mail clug-committee now
[15:47] <queery> thanx
[15:50] <drubin> queery: we are paying for the venue?
[15:50] <queery> no
[15:51] <queery> there is not suppose to be an invoice for anything
[15:51] <queery> but ill see how I can wangle the cake thing
[15:52] <queery> ill either get the cake's invoice from the bakery or get the bloukamer to pay it and an invoice from them
[15:52] <drubin> ah ok
[15:52] <drubin> tumbleweed: Lots of new faces at the release party on saturday
[15:52] <drubin> marcog: ^ nice work on the fb event thingy
[15:53] <tumbleweed> queery: My proposal to sponsor it has been seconded.
[15:53] <queery> awesome
[15:53] <queery> thanx guys
[15:55] <marcog> drubin: well, they still have to pitch :)
[15:55] <marcog> but i think this is the benefit of having it a public location
[15:56] <marcog> we're also still bugging the leg committee to announce it
[15:56] <queery> drubin, remind me later this week to send out reminders
[15:56] <queery> im so going to forget
[15:57] <tumbleweed> marcog: it was announced today
[15:58] <marcog> kk
[16:00] <drubin> tumbleweed: who where? the ml?
[16:00] <drubin> we should announce it on clug-annouce
[16:00] <tumbleweed> drubin: http://lists.leg.uct.ac.za/pipermail/leg-announce/2011-April/000024.html
[16:01] <tumbleweed> drubin/anyone: Send me a message or post to clug-announce, I'll approve / forward it
[16:01] <marcog> tumbleweed: jan is pretty sloppy lol
[16:02] <drubin> marcog: please make the annoucement you always do it with such motivation and awesomeness? :)
[16:03] <marcog> drubin: um wat, i do?
[16:03] <drubin> marcog: Yip you do
[16:03] <drubin> look how many people you got to come to geek dinners
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[16:04] <marcog> drubin: i never sent that announcement
[16:35] <drubin> marcog: but you could send this one 
[16:35] <drubin> ;-p
[16:35] <marcog> drubin: i'm ahead of you ;)
[16:37] <marcog> drubin: http://pastebin.com/M2E1uMKS lg?
[16:38] <tumbleweed> I don't think "details on facebook" is sufficient
[16:39] <tumbleweed> link to something publically accessible
[16:40] <drubin> loco.ubuntu.com is public
[16:40] <tumbleweed> indeed
[16:40] <tumbleweed> also actually put some of the details in the message, otherwise poeple who don't like braais will assume it's a braai
[16:41] <tumbleweed> I mentioned it to jason and he said "meh, braai", I had to say "it isn't this time"
[16:41] <drubin> http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2011/04/01/ubuntu-1104-natty-release-party-western-cape 
[16:41] <drubin> you can link to those as well
[16:41] <drubin> it is a resturant 
[16:42] <drubin> with hotdogs and bar and being able to order other food.
[16:42] <drubin> queery: ^ we can order other stuff as well right?
[16:42] <marcog> yeah i mentioned that in the opening paragraph
[16:43] <queery> well..
[16:43] <queery> I org that there wil be hot dogs
[16:44] <queery> and there will be a cash bar
[16:44] <queery> but the kitchen will prob only be open till like 1 if at all
[16:44] <marcog> tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/TYxbcSBP ?
[16:45] <tumbleweed> marcog: you're welcome to still include a facebook link if you want. Looks good.
[16:45] <marcog> tumbleweed: the news post links to fb
[16:45] <marcog> tumbleweed: reason i was going with fb, is i want to be more n00b-friendly
[16:46] <drubin> marcog: include the fb link
[16:46] <marcog> sent
[16:46] <marcog> mk, caught it in time :P
[16:46] <tumbleweed> marcog: not very facebook-shunner friendly, though
[16:46] <marcog> gmail undo ftw
[16:47] <marcog> tumbleweed: yeah i realise, didn't think at first that you'd need to be logged in to view it
[16:47] <marcog> which i find silly
[16:47] <tumbleweed> it's how facebook has always been
[16:47] <marcog> i realise
[16:47] <marcog> doesn't make it any less silly :P
[16:47] <tumbleweed> indeed
[16:48] <Symmetria> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/16/broadcom_ceo_charges/ <[16:48] <marcog> sent
[16:51] <drubin> Symmetria: Speaking of geeks... are we going to have an updated mirror?
[16:52] <tumbleweed> marcog: approved
[16:52] <marcog> ta
[16:53] <superfly> drubin: I think Symmetria is avoiding us :-P
[16:53] <drubin> no I know he is :)
[16:54] <tumbleweed> given the high international packet loss this afternoon, I don't blame him
[19:59] <nuvolari> hmm. any pitivi guru's around?
[20:00] <nuvolari> I need to turn a clip 90° clock-wise
[21:09] <Kilos> eish nuvolari peeps are min here
[21:09] <Kilos> i go sleep now
[21:10] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:10] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[21:10] <Maaz> Cheers Kilos
[21:13] <queery> maaz, good night
[21:13] <Maaz> Cheers queery
[22:31]  * nlsthzn waves
[22:38] <superfly> Evening nlsthzn
[22:42] <nlsthzn> superfly: Hiya :)
[22:43] <drubin> marcog: Hey you still have the banners right? can you please bring them to the release party on sat?
[22:44] <tumbleweed> they're by my desk
[22:51] <drubin> tumbleweed: awesome please remember them ;-p mostly for the photos and stuff
[23:04] <nlsthzn> the latest release caught us out in the UAE... so we haven't got anything planned... but hopefully 11.10 will have a proper release celebration here
[23:08] <drubin> nlsthzn: it is not too late :)
[23:09] <marcog> drubin: i'd tend to agree with nlsthzn that it is
[23:09] <marcog> rather make the first one a reasonable size than dissapoint the few who come
[23:10] <nlsthzn> there is a general meeting the 4th so the guys going will use it as a little get togerher... but the next one we hope to have a bit bigger scale... higher profile :)