[04:10] I'm unable to sync Bookmarks in 10.10 using Ubuntu One and Firefox 3.6.16. Can anybody assist? [08:47] morning all [08:51] morning fagan [09:13] Good morning! [09:14] morning karni [09:14] hi duanedesign :) wtf.. it's like 3AM in US :) you still up? [09:15] :) [09:15] karni: actually the opposite [09:15] karni: I just got up :P [09:15] duanedesign: :O [09:15] duanedesign: dude, 3AM is the time when people go to bed ;d what's up? [09:18] karni: yeah my hours are a little skewed. [09:18] duanedesign: I'd say quite a lot, but I'm happy to see you up around the morning here heheh :) [09:19] karni: was working on some projects with people in other time zones and kind of 'adopted' their hours [09:19] ah :) [09:43] aquarius: ping [09:43] duanedesign, pong [09:43] good day aquarius, you have a quick second for a PM? [09:44] duanedesign, sure [09:47] is bug expiry turned off again? [09:48] * fagan asks on lp [09:49] no, its on [09:54] it was the fact I was assigning the bug to myself [09:54] so im not going to assign them any more and it will be expiring properly [09:54] ahh [09:55] fagan: so only unassigned bugs expire [09:56] duanedesign: the only reason I was doing it that way was because nessita (I think) complained its less work to mark as assigned to me [09:56] to *not mark as assigned to me I mean [09:56] fagan: i started doing the same [09:56] i have been assigning them to myself... [09:57] duanedesign: well we were wrong so so wrong [09:57] :D [09:57] not assigning them is what the cool kids are doing nowadays [10:01] lifeless: I know what confused me there was a bug against the ubuntu package and the project and the ubuntu package side got the expiry and the project one didnt [10:01] :) [10:02] so it did have an expiry it was just wasnt obvious what project it was for [10:02] lifeless: so maybe it would be nice if lp said it expires from x project in x days [10:04] oooh I just saw the new thing that says a page is private on lp looks very cool [10:06] * fagan just realised there is going to be a lot of email spam now that im changing all of the bugs ive done so far [10:07] fagan, indeed ;-P [10:08] fagan, no worries :-) [10:08] teknico: hehe sorry :) [10:08] just run a pattern on your mailbox that everything from my email address goes to the bin for today [10:08] im done now though [10:09] im going back to actually answering bugs now [10:10] if I did as many bugs as duanedesign or rye you would know the meaning of spam if they did what I just did [10:10] :D [10:12] rye: is Bug #619902 still an issue dobey asked a question on it and said it could be marked as invalid? [10:12] Launchpad bug 619902 in ubuntuone-client "Authorization page may be opened in wrong browser (affects: 2) (heat: 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619902 [10:14] hmmm [10:14] fagan, well, yes, I guess it can be invalidated [10:14] cool [10:15] fagan, i understand what I wrote but I can't understand why [10:15] rye: ha xdg-open obviously opened the link in the wrong browser [10:16] for some weird reason to do with your crazy install :D [10:16] fagan, ah, the strace came from a different user I helped to fix ubuntuone earlier [10:16] ahhh [10:17] trace, not strace [10:25] hello rye ! [10:25] hi duanedesign [10:26] duanedesign, i am going to suddenly become away due to visa application filing but I may pop up later here as rye-mobile [10:27] rye: ahh, ok [10:27] rye: i had a question but it is not that important [10:28] rye: good luck on your visa application [10:29] yeah good luck rye [10:30] * fagan has a quick break from the spaming of everyones mail box :P [10:32] off to get breakfast, brb [10:32] wow your timing is very good duanedesign [10:32] isnt it like 5 am? [10:32] 4:30am [10:33] :) [10:33] breakast place opens at 5am [10:33] duanedesign: ahhh [10:34] im going to pace myself today and see how much work I can get done spread out longer [10:34] haha [10:34] so ill take 2 breaks and not strain myself [10:34] i need to catch up on the Ubuntu One forum posts [10:34] duanedesign: im never on the forums [10:35] j have to catch them before the Dropbox trolls get to them [10:35] hah [10:35] there are a handfull of users on the forums whho answer all U1 posts with. 'Switch to Dropbox' [10:36] and post a link so they get a refferal bonus of some kind [10:36] the easiest answer to that is how many platforms we are going to support very soon [10:36] and all the cool stuff you can do with u1 # [10:36] * duanedesign nods [10:36] * fagan really needs to be more carful with the keyboard the # char already killed tarmac for the sprint [10:38] duanedesign: like dropbox is _just_ a file sync u1 has desktopcouch which you can do cool programs using :) [10:38] anyway have a good what ever you call a mean at 4:30 :) [10:39] mean -> meal # [10:39] bad keyboard [11:14] duanedesign: is there a way to prove they get seomthing back from dropbox when they do that... [11:14] I think there should be something in the code of conduct about that, right? [11:16] mandel: that sentence didnt make much sence [11:17] *sense [11:17] * fagan needs irssi to check spelling for him :P [11:17] fagan: which sentence? besides 'something' being wrongly spelled I don't see any problems [11:19] oh i just cant read [11:21] fagan: what did you read? [11:23] ha nothing :) [11:23] * czajkowski bangs her head on the desk [11:25] czajkowski: do you know if there is something in the code of conduct that stops people from giving spammy answers in the forums? I dont say that Ubuntu One is better that dropbox, but 'switch to dropox' oes not sound as a valid answer specially if they get soemthing in return [11:25] ahh stupid something spelling :P [11:26] mandel: I don't think there is [11:26] mandel: that would be like saying you shouldn't use say m player over vlc or rhythbox over banshee [11:27] I dont think there is either [11:27] czajkowski: indeed… but it does involve some 'gain' from the person that does provide the answer, which smells a little [11:28] well, then we will have let them do it :( [11:28] mandel: meh there are always going to be people on the net that say chose MS over Linux can't hunt them all down and smack sense into them either [11:28] right [11:28] mandel: what you could do is use askubuntu and put up a question and detail an answer over reasons why one should use U1 [11:31] czajkowski: uh, that sounds something that a more eloquent person than me should do ;) [11:32] mandel: well askubuntu is rather useful and the lens is rather handy on unity so I check it more often now [11:32] I'm not a forums person [11:33] czajkowski: me neither, that\s so 90s :) [11:33] hello mandel, sorry was out to lunch [11:33] i mean breakfast :P [11:33] or pre breakfast [11:34] mandel: ask aquarius in his most eloquent ways to get someone or do it then :) [11:34] I say ye two as well I only know ye two on here to poke re U1 stuff [11:34] mandel: because of my close ties to the Ubuntu One project I have removed myself from my Moderation duties in the Ubuntu One section of the forums. I just answer posts. However you make a good point and it is something I need to follow up on [11:36] duanedesign: I just though it was interesting that they get some kind of gain with their answers, but this wont be a problem as soon as they try the new version :)) [11:38] * czajkowski still suggests Ask ubuntu as forums get long and messy and trying to find an answer in there is worse than a needle in a heystack [11:38] *haystack [11:46] mandel: have any merges for me to look at today? [11:46] fagan: not yet, but I did discovered why the tests did not pass in you machine :) [11:47] I have windows BIG time [11:47] ahhh [11:47] mandel: what was it [11:48] got dced there what was it mandel [11:48] fagan: I'm writing an email with it to the ubunet mailing list, are you subscribed? [11:50] mandel: dont think so [11:50] mandel: I keep getting emails about stuff needing moderation though [11:52] fagan: look into lp. I think you can join it, is more or less the mail list of the team [11:53] mandel: cool will look for it [11:53] hah it doesnt come up on lp's search [11:54] oh its private [11:54] hah im a mod but not a member thats a strange one [11:55] but I cant view the archive :/ [11:55] I think its a lp bug [11:58] twas a lp bug [11:59] mandel: im on the list now or should be anyway [11:59] fagan: ok, I'm writing the mail, it will be sent soon [11:59] cool [12:01] or maybe I was already on the list and no one mailed it [12:01] mandel: has anyone posted over the past 3 weeks? [12:02] fagan: no idea... [12:02] hah [12:02] I'm been on holidays :) [12:02] mandel: today? [12:03] oh is this the the trip you were talking about when we were in london? [12:10] ok im going to catch up on my blog posts for last week since they are actually college work [12:12] mandel: is it ok if I post some of your email about the problem on my blog [12:12] ill cut out some of the puta windows bits :D [12:12] fagan: sure, no problem, but is very long ;) [12:13] mandel: well it would be good since im going to mention the problem on my blog anyway since it was a whole days debugging more or less [12:17] fagan: sure feel free to do it, I have no problems what so ever :) [12:17] cool [12:25] mandel: and also in this post im saying most of the deps for u1 on windows [12:26] so you can grab the list from that if you are making a list [12:26] nice :) [12:28] fagan: the mail should be there, did you get it? [12:28] mandel: yep [12:28] thats not long [12:29] you should see my next blog post [12:29] :D [12:29] fagan: well, I had to find th link and actually what was going on ;) [12:29] fagan: spell check please before you post! :) [12:29] mandel: ah yeah [12:30] fagan: yes, specially because I'm a typo master :) [12:30] czajkowski: I generally spell ok I just tend to forget the dynamics of the english language [12:30] * fagan wants to create his own language without any ';: [12:30] :D [12:31] and capital LETTERS [12:31] czajkowski: im good with the caps [12:31] brb tea [12:39] hello people! [12:41] hello nessita [12:42] hello nessita [12:43] hi! [12:56] * fagan tries to read mandel's email and understand what he is on about :D [13:01] Can I get Ubuntu One to work non a non-Ubuntu linux distro? I use a RHEL-derivative at work (Scientific Linux), but Ubuntu at home for example. === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [13:03] jfcaron: you can but it might not be packaged for that distro [13:03] so you would have to compile the components and probably most of the depends [13:03] you can always use the web interface [13:04] Hrm, ok. Indeed it's not in the SL repos, so I'd probably have to compile. Web interface it is. [13:05] jfcaron: its a little bit clunky but it does the job I suppose [13:06] It would be nice if there was a way to use the web interface from the command line, like an ftp server-style, or an ssh login with -x permissions. [13:07] jfcaron: not really possible im afraid [13:07] Actually, ssh would be perfect because then it could integrate naturally with Gnome's vfs. Yeah there's probably a technical reason that it wouldn't be possible. [13:08] jfcaron: its more how the whole system is set up [13:08] ssh isnt really feasable [13:11] Maybe eventually there will be an Ubuntu One command-line program suite, eg: ubuntu-one cp remotefile localfile [13:12] jfcaron: im pretty sure there is a commandline interface somewhere in the ubuntu repo [13:12] Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if someone had already written a python wrapper for that. =) [13:12] but it just interfaces with our stuff [13:12] it doesnt do anything special [13:13] jfcaron: I have used a couple of python scripts knocked up by Stuart to do some command line monkeying with u1 [13:19] Hrm, I'll stick to the webbyface for now. It's enough for what I need to do. [13:20] Thanks though. [13:21] mandel: whats the name of that google thing you have to install for compiling the client [13:21] I want to add it to my post but I forget the name [13:22] protobuf? [13:22] ah thats it [13:26] Ok I think my post is moderately correct [13:26] and spelled right :P [13:27] good morning people [13:27] morning ralsina [13:28] * fagan learned some funny stuff about lp today :D [13:28] ralsina: I had to go back and unassign myself from all the bugs I did so far because lp wont time them out [13:30] other than that I got to a few more bugs and did a nice long post about last week (although I left out me not having internet for a day but that wasnt needed in there) [13:32] fagan: really? That sucks! [13:32] ralsina: didnt take long [13:32] the lp stuff, not your blog post ;-) [13:32] ralsina: my post sucks :( ? [13:32] fagan: no, see clarification above :-) [13:33] oh ill move that up :) [13:33] I wonder if there is a way I can have hidden meanings in the webpage [13:34] hi ralsina, how are you? [13:34] like where they click on it and it expands [13:34] hi nessita: I am fine, how are you? [13:34] ralsina: good! "accelerated", but good [13:34] nessita: and you are 3d too! [13:35] nessita: did you and alecu figure out the test slowdowns? [13:35] ralsina: hum? [13:35] nessita: you are 3d accelerated? ;-) [13:35] don't know what that is, let me google to understand the joke :-D [13:36] * ralsina should not joke before 10 AM [13:36] ralsina: ah! funny :-) [13:36] ralsina: after standup ill have to head off for an hour to do an errand but I dont think anything is urgent anyway [13:36] fagan: no problem [13:36] fagan: BTW, great job wth the bugs, dude [13:37] * ralsina wonders if that's proper management-speak [13:37] ralsina: dude is proper management speak [13:37] :D [13:38] I saw "The Big Lebowski" like, for the 20th time last night, man. Hard to break the dude-speech pattern. [13:38] haha [13:39] I think that film was a tad before my time [13:39] * fagan remembers clueless was his generation's big lebowski "like oh my god"...etc [13:42] clueless is based on a Jane Austen novel, so that was way before my time. [13:42] ralsina: well its a very lossy "based" [13:43] come on, Jane Austen TOTALLY wrote about beverly hills ;-) [13:43] like the whole grasp of the english language was ruined for generations because of clueless [13:43] ok, enough chitchat, I need to start working. Have fun, ping me if needed :-) [13:43] * fagan is testiment to that just ask czajkowski [13:44] good good [13:44] standup in 115 [13:44] 15 [13:44] :D [13:44] fagan: excuse me? [13:44] czajkowski: I meant my english is bad :) [13:45] fagan should remember that whenever you say someone's name on IRC, it's like tapping him on the shoulder. [13:45] and you remind me about it [13:45] ralsina: yeah I should use _ so not to disturb people [13:46] indeed [13:46] fagan: I remind you to spell check and re read things before you post them but you only ever listen to me after the fact. *shrugs* [13:47] czajkowski: every time I spell something wrong I think of you <3 [13:47] fagan: I have so many comments but I'm going back to work. [13:47] czajkowski: cool :) [13:53] fagan: google protobuf [13:54] mandel: yeah I got it [13:54] I kept thinking pixbuf for some reason [13:54] mandel: and the post is up could you check it to see if I left anything big out? [13:54] http://shanefagan.com/internship-day-18-21/ [13:55] fagan: ok, on it [13:56] mandel: I left out oauth since lazr or zope depend on it anyway [13:56] I cant remember which one [13:58] I could probably link to the stuff too [13:58] but ill do that after [13:59] rodrigo_: hi, why is evo creating a cache file of the couch DB content? [14:01] ralsina: ping [14:02] mandel: pong [14:03] welcome back tuhl. rodrigo_ should be back from lunch soon. [14:03] ralsina: I'm going to move to the ipc which I hope we have ready by today and will ignore the filesystem, at least the email explains the issue [14:03] ralsina: that way I hope to focus on control panel asap [14:03] mandel: 100% agree [14:03] mandel: yes. [14:04] ralsina: how is the UI on SSO going? [14:04] mandel: +9 :-) [14:04] me? [14:04] mandel: I lost most of it because windows ate my FS and it was not pushed [14:04] mandel: but I will have it done early tomorrow morning [14:04] ralsina: ouch! o I'll try to speed thing up in my side, so all I need are reviews [14:05] me [14:05] goood morning everyu1! [14:05] me [14:06] * nessita writes notes [14:06] mandel: cool [14:06] morning alecu [14:06] me [14:07] ralsina: you? [14:07] :) [14:07] me [14:07] we leaving anyone out? [14:07] thisfred? [14:08] ill just go and the others can chime in when they can [14:08] ? [14:08] fagan, go [14:08] DONE [14:08] * bug reports [14:08] * A big blog post [14:08] * more of the same really [14:08] Blocked [14:09] * hell no [14:09] mandel googo [14:09] DONE: holidays, investigated why events are not raised as fast as they should on windows. [14:09] TODO: Ipc & control panel. [14:09] BLOCKED: no unless there are more funny features in the OS I'm not aware of. [14:09] nessita: please [14:09] DONE: read and answered all the email, reviewed all the bugs in the incoming queue, proposed fix for bug #770269 and for bug #769520, tracked down translation issues with the control panel and the Polish language, debugged syncdaemon with facundobatista since downloads were stucked [14:09] TODO: blueprints [14:09] BLOCKED: nopes [14:09] NEXT: alecu [14:09] NOTES: tomorrow, teaching duties in the morning [14:09] Launchpad bug 770269 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "deprecated DBUS interfaces are not marked as deprecated (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770269 [14:09] Launchpad bug 769520 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) "[SRU] missing dependency on gnome-keyring (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769520 [14:09] DONE: investigated bug #770269, fought bug #770395 and found webbrowser.open starting nautilus. [14:09] TODO: still need to find out what's starting pulseaudio in the tests for the bug above [14:09] BLOCKED: need to catch a ferry in two hours, so I'll be without internet for a while [14:09] NEXT: ralsina [14:10] Launchpad bug 770395 in ubuntu-sso-client "(nautilus:15186): Eel-WARNING **: GConf error when running tests (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770395 [14:10] DONE: abstained from burning my notebook that lost me a day of work. TODO: redo that day of work, talk with you all about blueprints BLOCKED: don't codeblock McLovin, windows! [14:10] hah [14:10] λ DONE: finished bug #768911, bug #770379, bug #765441 [14:10] λ TODO: finish nightlies fixes, maverick/lucid SRUs [14:10] λ BLCK: None. [14:11] Launchpad bug 768911 in banshee (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty (beta 2) Banshee Geo IP Detection Amazon Defaults to U.S. (affects: 1) (heat: 1168)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768911 [14:11] Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770379 [14:11] Launchpad bug 765441 in ubuntuone-client "logging defaults to DEBUG in released version (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765441 [14:11] ok, let's talk blueprints people! [14:11] * fagan hides :D [14:11] (kidding) [14:11] ralsina, cool! [14:11] ralsina: mumble? [14:11] nessita: mmmmkay [14:12] ill have to restart then [14:12] so, let's mumble about blueprints [14:12] uhm [14:12] dobey: what, no mumble anymore? [14:12] my mic doesnt work on ubuntu for some reason [14:12] well i have to get set up for it [14:12] laptop is in the other room [14:12] fagan: it's ok, you are not doing blueprints yet [14:12] yay [14:12] ralsina: oops, xchat ping seems broken again, or maybe I just didn't hear it [14:13] fagan: so, you are not missing anything, really [14:13] I would like to listen anyway [14:13] thisfred: your ears are broken [14:13] (just to know) [14:13] fagan: well, for that you don t need a mic :-) [14:13] * thisfred fires mumble [14:13] ahhh ok [14:13] ralsina: when shall we mumble? [14:13] up [14:13] now?!?! [14:13] mandel: now? [14:13] mandel: unless you can't. [14:13] it's going to be short, I expect [14:13] sure [14:14] 5 min [14:16] yay im in [14:16] mumble crashed my X session, I'm delayed (but I will make it!) [14:17] nessita: thats weird [14:17] lol [14:17] robot man voice always makes me smile [14:20] hah that was short [14:20] ok [14:20] so i did not even need to get on there apparently [14:20] pfft. [14:21] dobey: wasting your golden time [14:21] :) [14:21] * fagan -> errands [14:21] i did have to walk halfway across my house to get my laptop, make a little room on my desk for it, boot it up, and log in, yes [14:21] nessita, don't worry, the meeting is already over [14:22] alecu: why? [14:22] yeah, i got on mumble and it was all "ok, we'll discuss in e-mail. bye." [14:22] nessita, we found no way to sort the spreadsheet by "Desktop+" [14:22] export it to csv, and write a 2 line python script [14:22] nessita, dobey: sorry I didn't notice you were missing [14:22] nessita, so roberto will make a new spreadsheet with just our assignments [14:22] basically, I will filter things manually and then we will do the assignments [14:23] nessita, dobey: and we'll meet tomorrow morning. [14:23] ok then [14:23] besides, I think I just coughed a piece of lung [14:23] alecu: tomorrow morning I m not in! [14:23] ralsina: 6 [14:23] nessita: tomorrow evening then [14:23] ok [14:23] nessita, that's because we want to assign the scariest blueprints to you. === hito_jp0 is now known as hito_jp [14:24] alecu: I figured :-) [14:25] * mandel is happy that nessita will increase the code coverage on Winodws [14:25] we had the best meeting ever! [14:26] everyone agreed so FAST === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [14:36] hrmm [14:36] so i had ubuntuone-client 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 installed on my laptop [14:37] just doing an apt-get upgrade now, and ubuntuone-client-gnome is not being uninstalled [14:41] dobey: maybe using the graphical package manager? [14:41] fagan: what did you use? [14:42] nessita: well, i'm upgrading to nightlies now, so maybe nightlies were never broken [14:49] dobey: ah... that can be it, I'm using nightlies and I didn't loose u1clientgnome [14:49] but it doesn't make any sense, unless ubuntuone-client-gnome was being held back, and the old version got removed because it didn't satisfy new deps of ubuntuone-client [14:50] which would be really weird [14:50] dobey: how can a package being held back? [14:50] s/being/be [14:52] nessita: I am on nightlies and I lost it at some point. [14:52] ralsina: you did? hum [14:52] I am starting the VM to verify [14:52] But I remember clearly not having the menu in nautilus yesterday [14:53] nessita: not sure what all the reasons for it are [14:53] nessita: btw, have you seen http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/has-the-new-ubuntu-one-control-panel-raised-the-stakes-in-app-appearances/ ? [14:54] much more fun: I have the gnome client installed but no ubuntu one menu [14:56] ohhhhh menu is not there if syncdaemon is not running. [14:56] tuhl, it creates a cache for not having to do HTTP requests all the time [14:56] dobey: I have, thanks! :-) [14:56] dobey: that article finally convinced me that FLOSS is not as nice as it was 10 years ago. [14:56] well, the comments did [14:57] ralsina: do you have the package (ubuntuone-client-gnome)? [14:57] ralsina: it was just as bad back then, but all the comments were on slashdot or irc :) [14:57] nessita: yes, I just had syncing disabled [14:57] ralsina: there was just much less web presence then [14:57] dobey: come on, /. was never meant to be serious. And I have uid #1777 so I was there :-) [14:58]