[04:10] <merther> I'm unable to sync Bookmarks in 10.10 using Ubuntu One and Firefox 3.6.16.  Can anybody assist?
[08:47] <fagan> morning all
[08:51] <duanedesign> morning fagan
[09:13] <karni> Good morning!
[09:14] <duanedesign> morning karni
[09:14] <karni> hi duanedesign :) wtf.. it's like 3AM in US :) you still up?
[09:15] <duanedesign> :)
[09:15] <duanedesign> karni: actually the opposite
[09:15] <duanedesign> karni: I just got up :P
[09:15] <karni> duanedesign: :O
[09:15] <karni> duanedesign: dude, 3AM is the time when people go to bed ;d what's up?
[09:18] <duanedesign> karni: yeah my hours are a little skewed.
[09:18] <karni> duanedesign: I'd say quite a lot, but I'm happy to see you up around the morning here heheh :)
[09:19] <duanedesign> karni: was working on some projects with people in other time zones and kind of 'adopted' their hours
[09:19] <karni> ah :)
[09:43] <duanedesign> aquarius: ping
[09:43] <aquarius> duanedesign, pong
[09:43] <duanedesign> good day aquarius, you have a quick second for a PM?
[09:44] <aquarius> duanedesign, sure
[09:47] <fagan> is bug expiry turned off again?
[09:48]  * fagan asks on lp 
[09:49] <lifeless> no, its on
[09:54] <fagan> it was the fact I was assigning the bug to myself
[09:54] <fagan> so im not going to assign them any more and it will be expiring properly
[09:54] <duanedesign> ahh
[09:55] <duanedesign> fagan: so only unassigned bugs expire
[09:56] <fagan> duanedesign: the only reason I was doing it that way was because nessita (I think) complained its less work to mark as assigned to me
[09:56] <fagan> to *not mark as assigned to me I mean
[09:56] <duanedesign> fagan: i started doing the same
[09:56] <duanedesign> i have been assigning them to myself...
[09:57] <fagan> duanedesign: well we were wrong so so wrong
[09:57] <duanedesign> :D
[09:57] <fagan> not assigning them is what the cool kids are doing nowadays
[10:01] <fagan> lifeless: I know what confused me there was a bug against the ubuntu package and the project and the ubuntu package side got the expiry and the project one didnt
[10:01] <lifeless> :)
[10:02] <fagan> so it did have an expiry it was just wasnt obvious what project it was for
[10:02] <fagan> lifeless: so maybe it would be nice if lp said it expires from x project in x days
[10:04] <fagan> oooh I just saw the new thing that says a page is private on lp looks very cool
[10:06]  * fagan just realised there is going to be a lot of email spam now that im changing all of the bugs ive done so far
[10:07] <teknico> fagan, indeed ;-P
[10:08] <teknico> fagan, no worries :-)
[10:08] <fagan> teknico: hehe sorry :)
[10:08] <fagan> just run a pattern on your mailbox that everything from my email address goes to the bin for today
[10:08] <fagan> im done now though
[10:09] <fagan> im going back to actually answering bugs now
[10:10] <fagan> if I did as many bugs as duanedesign or rye you would know the meaning of spam if they did what I just did
[10:10] <fagan> :D
[10:12] <fagan> rye: is Bug #619902 still an issue dobey asked a question on it and said it could be marked as invalid?
[10:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 619902 in ubuntuone-client "Authorization page may be opened in wrong browser (affects: 2) (heat: 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619902
[10:14] <rye> hmmm
[10:14] <rye> fagan, well, yes, I guess it can be invalidated
[10:14] <fagan> cool
[10:15] <rye> fagan, i understand what I wrote but I can't understand why
[10:15] <fagan> rye: ha xdg-open obviously opened the link in the wrong browser
[10:16] <fagan> for some weird reason to do with your crazy install :D
[10:16] <rye> fagan, ah, the strace came from a different user I helped to fix ubuntuone earlier
[10:16] <fagan> ahhh
[10:17] <rye> trace, not strace
[10:25] <duanedesign> hello rye !
[10:25] <rye> hi duanedesign
[10:26] <rye> duanedesign, i am going to suddenly become away due to visa application filing but I may pop up later here as rye-mobile
[10:27] <duanedesign> rye: ahh, ok
[10:27] <duanedesign> rye: i had a question but it is not that important
[10:28] <duanedesign> rye: good luck on your visa application
[10:29] <fagan> yeah good luck rye
[10:30]  * fagan has a quick break from the spaming of everyones mail box :P
[10:32] <duanedesign> off to get breakfast, brb
[10:32] <fagan> wow your timing is very good duanedesign
[10:32] <fagan> isnt it like 5 am?
[10:32] <duanedesign> 4:30am
[10:33] <duanedesign> :)
[10:33] <duanedesign> breakast place opens at 5am
[10:33] <fagan> duanedesign: ahhh
[10:34] <fagan> im going to pace myself today and see how much work I can get done spread out longer
[10:34] <duanedesign> haha
[10:34] <fagan> so ill take 2 breaks and not strain myself
[10:34] <duanedesign> i need to catch up on the Ubuntu One forum posts
[10:34] <fagan> duanedesign: im never on the forums
[10:35] <duanedesign> j have to catch them before the Dropbox trolls get to them
[10:35] <fagan> hah
[10:35] <duanedesign> there are a handfull of users on the forums whho answer all U1 posts with. 'Switch to Dropbox'
[10:36] <duanedesign> and post a link so they get a refferal bonus of some kind
[10:36] <fagan> the easiest answer to that is how many platforms we are going to support very soon
[10:36] <fagan> and all the cool stuff you can do with u1 #
[10:36]  * duanedesign nods
[10:36]  * fagan really needs to be more carful with the keyboard the # char already killed tarmac for the sprint
[10:38] <fagan> duanedesign: like dropbox is _just_ a file sync u1 has desktopcouch which you can do cool programs using :)
[10:38] <fagan> anyway have a good what ever you call a mean at 4:30 :)
[10:39] <fagan> mean -> meal #
[10:39] <fagan> bad keyboard
[11:14] <mandel> duanedesign: is there a way to prove they get seomthing back from dropbox when they do that...
[11:14] <mandel> I think there should be something in the code of conduct about that, right?
[11:16] <fagan> mandel: that sentence didnt make much sence
[11:17] <fagan> *sense
[11:17]  * fagan needs irssi to check spelling for him :P
[11:17] <mandel> fagan: which sentence? besides 'something' being wrongly spelled I don't see any problems
[11:19] <fagan> oh i just cant read
[11:21] <mandel> fagan: what did you read?
[11:23] <fagan> ha nothing :)
[11:23]  * czajkowski bangs her head on the desk 
[11:25] <mandel> czajkowski: do you know if there is something in the code of conduct that stops people from giving spammy answers in the forums? I dont say that Ubuntu One is better that dropbox, but 'switch to dropox' oes not sound as a valid answer specially if they get soemthing in return
[11:25] <mandel> ahh stupid something spelling :P
[11:26] <czajkowski> mandel: I don't think there is
[11:26] <czajkowski> mandel: that would be like saying you shouldn't use say m player over vlc or rhythbox over banshee
[11:27] <fagan> I dont think there is either
[11:27] <mandel> czajkowski: indeed… but it does involve some 'gain' from the person that does provide the answer, which smells a little
[11:28] <mandel> well, then we will have let them do it :(
[11:28] <czajkowski> mandel: meh there are always going to be people on the net that say chose MS over Linux can't hunt them all down and smack sense into them either
[11:28] <mandel> right
[11:28] <czajkowski> mandel: what you could do is use askubuntu and put up a question and detail an answer over reasons why one should use U1
[11:31] <mandel> czajkowski: uh, that sounds something that a more eloquent  person than me should do ;)
[11:32] <czajkowski> mandel: well askubuntu is rather useful and the lens is rather handy on unity so I check it more often now
[11:32] <czajkowski> I'm not a forums person
[11:33] <mandel> czajkowski: me neither, that\s so 90s :)
[11:33] <duanedesign> hello mandel, sorry was out to lunch
[11:33] <duanedesign> i mean breakfast :P
[11:33] <fagan> or pre breakfast
[11:34] <czajkowski> mandel: ask aquarius in his most eloquent ways to get someone or do it then :)
[11:34] <czajkowski> I say ye two as well I only know ye two on here to poke re U1 stuff
[11:34] <duanedesign> mandel: because of my close ties to the Ubuntu One project I have removed myself from my Moderation duties in the Ubuntu One section of the forums. I just answer posts. However you make a good point and it is something I need to follow up on
[11:36] <mandel> duanedesign: I just though it was interesting that they get some kind of gain with their answers, but this wont be a problem as soon as they try the new version :))
[11:38]  * czajkowski still suggests Ask ubuntu as forums get long and messy and trying to find an answer in there is worse than a needle in a heystack 
[11:38] <czajkowski> *haystack
[11:46] <fagan> mandel: have any merges for me to look at today?
[11:46] <mandel> fagan: not yet, but I did discovered why the tests did not pass in you machine :)
[11:47] <mandel> I have windows BIG time
[11:47] <fagan> ahhh
[11:47] <fagan> mandel: what was it
[11:48] <fagan> got dced there what was it mandel
[11:48] <mandel> fagan: I'm writing an email with it to the ubunet mailing list, are you subscribed?
[11:50] <fagan> mandel: dont think so
[11:50] <fagan> mandel: I keep getting emails about stuff needing moderation though
[11:52] <mandel> fagan: look into lp. I think you can join it, is more or less the mail list of the team
[11:53] <fagan> mandel: cool will look for it
[11:53] <fagan> hah it doesnt come up on lp's search
[11:54] <fagan> oh its private
[11:54] <fagan> hah im a mod but not a member thats a strange one
[11:55] <fagan> but I cant view the archive :/
[11:55] <fagan> I think its a lp bug
[11:58] <fagan> twas a lp bug
[11:59] <fagan> mandel: im on the list now or should be anyway
[11:59] <mandel> fagan: ok, I'm writing the mail, it will be sent soon
[11:59] <fagan> cool
[12:01] <fagan> or maybe I was already on the list and no one mailed it
[12:01] <fagan> mandel: has anyone posted over the past 3 weeks?
[12:02] <mandel> fagan: no idea...
[12:02] <fagan> hah
[12:02] <mandel> I'm been on holidays :)
[12:02] <fagan> mandel: today?
[12:03] <fagan> oh is this the the trip you were talking about when we were in london?
[12:10] <fagan> ok im going to catch up on my blog posts for last week since they are actually college work
[12:12] <fagan> mandel: is it ok if I post some of your email about the problem on my blog
[12:12] <fagan> ill cut out some of the puta windows bits :D
[12:12] <mandel> fagan: sure, no problem, but is very long ;)
[12:13] <fagan> mandel: well it would be good since im going to mention the problem on my blog anyway since it was a whole days debugging more or less
[12:17] <mandel> fagan: sure feel free to do it, I have no problems what so ever :)
[12:17] <fagan> cool
[12:25] <fagan> mandel: and also in this post im saying most of the deps for u1 on windows
[12:26] <fagan> so you can grab the list from that if you are making a list
[12:26] <mandel> nice :)
[12:28] <mandel> fagan: the mail should be there, did you get it?
[12:28] <fagan> mandel: yep
[12:28] <fagan> thats not long
[12:29] <fagan> you should see my next blog post
[12:29] <fagan> :D
[12:29] <mandel> fagan: well, I had to find th link and actually what was going on ;)
[12:29] <czajkowski> fagan: spell check please before you post! :)
[12:29] <fagan> mandel: ah yeah
[12:30] <mandel> fagan: yes, specially because I'm a typo master :)
[12:30] <fagan> czajkowski: I generally spell ok I just tend to forget the dynamics of the english language
[12:30]  * fagan wants to create his own language without any ';:
[12:30] <fagan> :D
[12:31] <czajkowski> and capital LETTERS
[12:31] <fagan> czajkowski: im good with the caps
[12:31] <fagan> brb tea
[12:39] <nessita> hello people!
[12:41] <duanedesign> hello nessita
[12:42] <fagan> hello nessita
[12:43] <nessita> hi!
[12:56]  * fagan tries to read mandel's email and understand what he is on about :D
[13:01] <jfcaron> Can I get Ubuntu One to work non a non-Ubuntu linux distro?  I use a RHEL-derivative at work (Scientific Linux), but Ubuntu at home for example.
[13:03] <fagan> jfcaron: you can but it might not be packaged for that distro
[13:03] <fagan> so you would have to compile the components and probably most of the depends
[13:03] <fagan> you can always use the web interface
[13:04] <jfcaron> Hrm, ok.  Indeed it's not in the SL repos, so I'd probably have to compile.  Web interface it is.
[13:05] <fagan> jfcaron: its a little bit clunky but it does the job I suppose
[13:06] <jfcaron> It would be nice if there was a way to use the web interface from the command line, like an ftp server-style, or an ssh login with -x permissions.
[13:07] <fagan> jfcaron: not really possible im afraid
[13:07] <jfcaron> Actually, ssh would be perfect because then it could integrate naturally with Gnome's vfs.  Yeah there's probably a technical reason that it wouldn't be possible.
[13:08] <fagan> jfcaron: its more how the whole system is set up
[13:08] <fagan> ssh isnt really feasable
[13:11] <jfcaron> Maybe eventually there will be an Ubuntu One command-line program suite, eg: ubuntu-one cp remotefile localfile
[13:12] <fagan> jfcaron: im pretty sure there is a commandline interface somewhere in the ubuntu repo
[13:12] <jfcaron> Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if someone had already written a python wrapper for that. =)
[13:12] <fagan> but it just interfaces with our stuff
[13:12] <fagan> it doesnt do anything special
[13:13] <popey> jfcaron: I have used a couple of python scripts knocked up by Stuart to do some command line monkeying with u1
[13:19] <jfcaron> Hrm, I'll stick to the webbyface for now.  It's enough for what I need to do.
[13:20] <jfcaron> Thanks though.
[13:21] <fagan> mandel: whats the name of that google thing you have to install for compiling the client
[13:21] <fagan> I want to add it to my post but I forget the name
[13:22] <fagan> protobuf?
[13:22] <fagan> ah thats it
[13:26] <fagan> Ok I think my post is moderately correct
[13:26] <fagan> and spelled right :P
[13:27] <ralsina> good morning people
[13:27] <fagan> morning ralsina
[13:28]  * fagan learned some funny stuff about lp today :D
[13:28] <fagan> ralsina: I had to go back and unassign myself from all the bugs I did so far because lp wont time them out
[13:30] <fagan> other than that I got to a few more bugs and did a nice long post about last week (although I left out me not having internet for a day but that wasnt needed in there)
[13:32] <ralsina> fagan: really? That sucks!
[13:32] <fagan> ralsina: didnt take long
[13:32] <ralsina> the lp stuff, not your blog post ;-)
[13:32] <fagan> ralsina: my post sucks :( ?
[13:32] <ralsina> fagan: no, see clarification above :-)
[13:33] <fagan> oh ill move that up :)
[13:33] <fagan> I wonder if there is a way I can have hidden meanings in the webpage
[13:34] <nessita> hi ralsina, how are you?
[13:34] <fagan> like where they click on it and it expands
[13:34] <ralsina> hi nessita: I am fine, how are you?
[13:34] <nessita> ralsina: good! "accelerated", but good
[13:34] <ralsina> nessita: and you are 3d too!
[13:35] <ralsina> nessita: did you and alecu figure out the test slowdowns?
[13:35] <nessita> ralsina: hum?
[13:35] <ralsina> nessita: you are 3d accelerated? ;-)
[13:35] <nessita> don't know what that is, let me google to understand the joke :-D
[13:36]  * ralsina should not joke before 10 AM
[13:36] <nessita> ralsina: ah! funny :-)
[13:36] <fagan> ralsina: after standup ill have to head off for an hour to do an errand but I dont think anything is urgent anyway
[13:36] <ralsina> fagan: no problem
[13:36] <ralsina> fagan: BTW, great job wth the bugs, dude
[13:37]  * ralsina wonders if that's proper management-speak
[13:37] <fagan> ralsina: dude is proper management speak
[13:37] <fagan> :D
[13:38] <ralsina> I saw "The Big Lebowski" like, for the 20th time last night, man. Hard to break the dude-speech pattern.
[13:38] <fagan> haha
[13:39] <fagan> I think that film was a tad before my time
[13:39]  * fagan remembers clueless was his generation's big lebowski "like oh my god"...etc
[13:42] <ralsina> clueless is based on a Jane Austen novel, so that was way before my time.
[13:42] <fagan> ralsina: well its a very lossy "based"
[13:43] <ralsina> come on, Jane Austen TOTALLY wrote about beverly hills ;-)
[13:43] <fagan> like the whole grasp of the english language was ruined for generations because of clueless
[13:43] <ralsina> ok, enough chitchat, I need to start working. Have fun, ping me if needed :-)
[13:43]  * fagan is testiment to that just ask czajkowski 
[13:44] <fagan> good good
[13:44] <fagan> standup in 115
[13:44] <fagan> 15
[13:44] <fagan> :D
[13:44] <czajkowski> fagan: excuse me?
[13:44] <fagan> czajkowski: I meant my english is bad :)
[13:45] <ralsina> fagan should remember that whenever you say someone's name on IRC, it's like tapping him on the shoulder.
[13:45] <fagan> and you remind me about it
[13:45] <fagan> ralsina: yeah I should use _ so not to disturb people
[13:46] <czajkowski> indeed
[13:46] <czajkowski> fagan: I remind you to spell check and re read things before you post them but you only ever listen to me after the fact. *shrugs*
[13:47] <fagan> czajkowski: every time I spell something wrong I think of you <3
[13:47] <czajkowski> fagan: I have so many comments but I'm going back to work.
[13:47] <fagan> czajkowski: cool :)
[13:53] <mandel> fagan: google protobuf
[13:54] <fagan> mandel: yeah I got it
[13:54] <fagan> I kept thinking pixbuf for some reason
[13:54] <fagan> mandel: and the post is up could you check it to see if I left anything big out?
[13:54] <fagan> http://shanefagan.com/internship-day-18-21/
[13:55] <mandel> fagan: ok, on it
[13:56] <fagan> mandel: I left out oauth since lazr or zope depend on it anyway
[13:56] <fagan> I cant remember which one
[13:58] <fagan> I could probably link to the stuff too
[13:58] <fagan> but ill do that after
[13:59] <tuhl> rodrigo_: hi, why is evo creating a cache file of the couch DB content?
[14:01] <mandel> ralsina: ping
[14:02] <ralsina> mandel: pong
[14:03] <duanedesign> welcome back tuhl. rodrigo_  should be back from lunch soon.
[14:03] <mandel> ralsina: I'm going to move to the ipc which I hope we have ready by today and will ignore the filesystem, at least the email explains the issue
[14:03] <mandel> ralsina: that way I hope to focus on control panel asap
[14:03] <ralsina> mandel: 100% agree
[14:03] <ralsina> mandel: yes.
[14:04] <mandel> ralsina: how is the UI on SSO going?
[14:04] <ralsina> mandel: +9 :-)
[14:04] <fagan> me?
[14:04] <ralsina> mandel: I lost most of it because windows ate my FS and it was not pushed
[14:04] <ralsina> mandel: but I will have it done early tomorrow morning
[14:04] <mandel> ralsina: ouch! o I'll try to speed thing up in my side, so all I need are reviews
[14:05] <mandel> me
[14:05] <alecu> goood morning everyu1!
[14:05] <nessita> me
[14:06]  * nessita writes notes
[14:06] <ralsina> mandel: cool
[14:06] <fagan> morning alecu
[14:06] <alecu> me
[14:07] <fagan> ralsina: you?
[14:07] <fagan> :)
[14:07] <ralsina> me
[14:07] <fagan> we leaving anyone out?
[14:07] <ralsina> thisfred?
[14:08] <fagan> ill just go and the others can chime in when they can
[14:08] <fagan> ?
[14:08] <ralsina> fagan, go
[14:08] <fagan> DONE
[14:08] <fagan> * bug reports
[14:08] <fagan> * A big blog post
[14:08] <fagan> * more of the same really
[14:08] <fagan> Blocked
[14:09] <fagan> * hell no
[14:09] <fagan> mandel googo
[14:09] <mandel> DONE: holidays, investigated why events are not raised as fast as they should on windows.
[14:09] <mandel> TODO: Ipc & control panel.
[14:09] <mandel> BLOCKED: no unless there are more funny features in the OS I'm not aware of.
[14:09] <mandel> nessita: please
[14:09] <nessita> DONE: read and answered all the email, reviewed all the bugs in the incoming queue, proposed fix for bug #770269 and for bug #769520, tracked down translation issues with the control panel and the Polish language, debugged syncdaemon with facundobatista since downloads were stucked
[14:09] <nessita> TODO: blueprints
[14:09] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[14:09] <nessita> NEXT: alecu
[14:09] <nessita> NOTES: tomorrow, teaching duties in the morning
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770269 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "deprecated DBUS interfaces are not marked as deprecated (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770269
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769520 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) "[SRU] missing dependency on gnome-keyring (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769520
[14:09] <alecu> DONE: investigated bug #770269, fought bug #770395 and found webbrowser.open starting nautilus.
[14:09] <alecu> TODO: still need to find out what's starting pulseaudio in the tests for the bug above
[14:09] <alecu> BLOCKED: need to catch a ferry in two hours, so I'll be without internet for a while
[14:09] <alecu> NEXT: ralsina
[14:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770395 in ubuntu-sso-client "(nautilus:15186): Eel-WARNING **: GConf error when running tests (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770395
[14:10] <ralsina> DONE: abstained from burning my notebook that lost me a day of work. TODO: redo that day of work, talk with you all about blueprints BLOCKED: don't codeblock McLovin, windows!
[14:10] <fagan> hah
[14:10] <dobey> λ DONE: finished bug #768911, bug #770379, bug #765441
[14:10] <dobey> λ TODO: finish nightlies fixes, maverick/lucid SRUs
[14:10] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768911 in banshee (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty (beta 2) Banshee Geo IP Detection Amazon Defaults to U.S. (affects: 1) (heat: 1168)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768911
[14:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770379
[14:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765441 in ubuntuone-client "logging defaults to DEBUG in released version (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765441
[14:11] <ralsina> ok, let's talk blueprints people!
[14:11]  * fagan hides :D
[14:11] <fagan> (kidding)
[14:11] <alecu> ralsina, cool!
[14:11] <nessita> ralsina: mumble?
[14:11] <ralsina> nessita: mmmmkay
[14:12] <fagan> ill have to restart then
[14:12] <ralsina> so, let's mumble about blueprints
[14:12] <dobey> uhm
[14:12] <ralsina> dobey: what, no mumble anymore?
[14:12] <fagan> my mic doesnt work on ubuntu for some reason
[14:12] <dobey> well i have to get set up for it
[14:12] <dobey> laptop is in the other room
[14:12] <ralsina> fagan: it's ok, you are not doing blueprints yet
[14:12] <fagan> yay
[14:12] <thisfred> ralsina: oops, xchat ping seems broken again, or maybe I just didn't hear it
[14:13] <ralsina> fagan: so, you are not missing anything, really
[14:13] <fagan> I would like to listen anyway
[14:13] <dobey> thisfred: your ears are broken
[14:13] <fagan> (just to know)
[14:13] <ralsina> fagan: well, for that you don t need a mic :-)
[14:13]  * thisfred fires mumble
[14:13] <fagan> ahhh ok
[14:13] <mandel> ralsina: when shall we mumble?
[14:13] <thisfred> up
[14:13] <mandel> now?!?!
[14:13] <ralsina> mandel: now?
[14:13] <ralsina> mandel: unless you can't.
[14:13] <ralsina> it's going to be short, I expect
[14:13] <mandel> sure
[14:14] <dobey> 5 min
[14:16] <fagan> yay im in
[14:16] <nessita> mumble crashed my X session, I'm delayed (but I will make it!)
[14:17] <fagan> nessita: thats weird
[14:17] <dobey> lol
[14:17] <fagan> robot man voice always makes me smile
[14:20] <fagan> hah that was short
[14:20] <dobey> ok
[14:20] <dobey> so i did not even need to get on there apparently
[14:20] <dobey> pfft.
[14:21] <fagan> dobey: wasting your golden time
[14:21] <fagan> :)
[14:21]  * fagan -> errands
[14:21] <dobey> i did have to walk halfway across my house to get my laptop, make a little room on my desk for it, boot it up, and log in, yes
[14:21] <alecu> nessita, don't worry, the meeting is already over
[14:22] <nessita> alecu: why?
[14:22] <dobey> yeah, i got on mumble and it was all "ok, we'll discuss in e-mail. bye."
[14:22] <alecu> nessita, we found no way to sort the spreadsheet by "Desktop+"
[14:22] <dobey> export it to csv, and write a 2 line python script
[14:22] <ralsina> nessita, dobey: sorry I didn't notice you were missing
[14:22] <alecu> nessita, so roberto will make a new spreadsheet with just our assignments
[14:22] <ralsina> basically, I will filter things manually and then we will do the assignments
[14:23] <alecu> nessita, dobey: and we'll meet tomorrow morning.
[14:23] <nessita> ok then
[14:23] <ralsina> besides, I think I just coughed a piece of lung
[14:23] <nessita> alecu: tomorrow morning I m not in!
[14:23] <nessita> ralsina: 6
[14:23] <ralsina> nessita: tomorrow evening then
[14:23] <nessita> ok
[14:23] <alecu> nessita, that's because we want to assign the scariest blueprints to you.
[14:24] <nessita> alecu: I figured :-)
[14:25]  * mandel is happy that nessita will increase the code coverage on Winodws
[14:25] <mandel> we had the best meeting ever!
[14:26] <ralsina> everyone agreed so FAST
[14:36] <dobey> hrmm
[14:36] <dobey> so i had ubuntuone-client 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 installed on my laptop
[14:37] <dobey> just doing an apt-get upgrade now, and ubuntuone-client-gnome is not being uninstalled
[14:41] <nessita> dobey: maybe using the graphical package manager?
[14:41] <nessita> fagan: what did you use?
[14:42] <dobey> nessita: well, i'm upgrading to nightlies now, so maybe nightlies were never broken
[14:49] <nessita> dobey: ah... that can be it, I'm using nightlies and I didn't loose u1clientgnome
[14:49] <dobey> but it doesn't make any sense, unless ubuntuone-client-gnome was being held back, and the old version got removed because it didn't satisfy new deps of ubuntuone-client
[14:50] <dobey> which would be really weird
[14:50] <nessita> dobey: how can a package being held back?
[14:50] <nessita> s/being/be
[14:52] <ralsina> nessita: I am on nightlies and I lost it at some point.
[14:52] <nessita> ralsina: you did? hum
[14:52] <ralsina> I am starting the VM to verify
[14:52] <ralsina> But I remember clearly not having the menu in nautilus yesterday
[14:53] <dobey> nessita: not sure what all the reasons for it are
[14:53] <dobey> nessita: btw, have you seen http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/has-the-new-ubuntu-one-control-panel-raised-the-stakes-in-app-appearances/ ?
[14:54] <ralsina> much more fun: I have the gnome client installed but no ubuntu one menu
[14:56] <ralsina> ohhhhh menu is not there if syncdaemon is not running.
[14:56] <rodrigo_> tuhl, it creates a cache for not having to do HTTP requests all the time
[14:56] <nessita> dobey: I have, thanks! :-)
[14:56] <ralsina> dobey: that article finally convinced me that FLOSS is not as nice as it was 10 years ago.
[14:56] <ralsina> well, the comments did
[14:57] <nessita> ralsina: do you have the package (ubuntuone-client-gnome)?
[14:57] <dobey> ralsina: it was just as bad back then, but all the comments were on slashdot or irc :)
[14:57] <ralsina> nessita: yes, I just had syncing disabled
[14:57] <dobey> ralsina: there was just much less web presence then
[14:57] <ralsina> dobey: come on, /. was never meant to be serious. And I have uid #1777 so I was there :-)
[14:58] <ralsina> nowadays people have a baffling sense of entitlement
[14:58] <dobey> people always had a sense of entitlement
[14:58] <dobey> there are just a lot more people to feel entitled now
[14:59] <ralsina> dobey: and I am getting older, so I feel this urge to make them step off my lawn, you know.
[14:59] <dobey> ralsina: well i just tell everyone they are totally wrong. :)
[15:00] <ralsina> that plus selective memory that makes me forget the bad side of the past... bad combination. I need to meet cooler people.
[15:03] <dobey> huh, there are lots of files in my trash now
[15:06] <dobey> and i have no idea where they came from exactly
[15:06] <duanedesign> rodrigo_: i was working with tuhl yesterday on an issue he is having. Contacts are in Couch and show up in Futon but not Evolution. http://paste.ubuntu.com/598789/
[15:06] <mandel> dobey: there is a move to trash implemented in u1_client
[15:06] <mandel> dobey: I cannot remember from when, I know it is not implemented in the windows port ;)
[15:07] <dobey> mandel: yes, but it put some files, obviously from a share, not within a subdir telling me what share
[15:07] <duanedesign> rodrigo_: i was thinking he could be affected by bug 727370 ?
[15:07] <rodrigo_> duanedesign, yes, already talked with him about it, so that he tests a branch I haveç
[15:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 727370 in evolution-couchdb (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Contacts not syncing with my computer (affects: 28) (dups: 16) (heat: 204)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727370
[15:07] <rodrigo_> duanedesign, yes
[15:07] <dobey> mandel: so the whole path is not preserved within trash :(
[15:07] <duanedesign> rodrigo_: aha! thank you :)
[15:07] <dobey> mandel: and nautilus does not have "Original location" in file properties for items in trash
[15:09] <dobey> oh sweet
[15:09] <dobey> openid is broken
[15:11] <dobey> and how can i have two folders in trash, named the exact same thing
[15:12] <dobey> i'm not sure if i should empty the trash, or what
[15:31] <ralsina> Is it insane if I take three shirts like this to UDS? http://bit.ly/eMQ92W    :-D
[15:32] <alecu> ralsina, we should compensate the natural curves in our bodies so the code looks square to the cameras.
[15:33] <ralsina> alecu: hmmmm I would have to do some experiments to see if it scans correctly, you are right
[15:34] <nessita> ralsina: why 3?
[15:35] <ralsina> nessita: so I don't have to wash it every night? ;-)
[15:35] <ralsina> different colors, so people don't think I am using the same shirt all week, too.
[15:35] <nessita> ralsina: ah... 3 t-shirts for 10 days? do not take personally the fact that I may avoid you :-D
[15:35] <ralsina> nessita: I am betting on the hotel having a laundry service ;-)
[15:36]  * mandel jots down 'have an "accident" with a chocolate cake close enough to ralsina to change the meaning of the barcode'
[15:37] <ralsina> if you manage that, I will cngratulate you and walk around with whatever my shirt says for a day ;-)
[15:38] <ralsina> I will even let you use a black marker to hack the barcode, if you want :-)
[15:38]  * mandel jots down: make it so that has a www.lemonpie.org ecoded so that it is opened by people when thew scan the code
[15:38] <mandel> DO NOT open that page
[15:38] <mandel> DO NOT
[15:39] <mandel> oh, se me callo un mito, ya no son senores homosexuales de 60 :(
[15:39] <mandel> yo can open that url, no problem
[15:39] <fagan> ok back
[15:40] <fagan> nessita: what do you mean what did I use?
[15:40]  * fagan reads the scroll back 
[15:40] <ralsina> Full team sprint is June 6 right?
[15:40] <nessita> fagan: to update your system, what program
[15:40] <nessita> ralsina: yes
[15:41] <dobey> ralsina: don't remind me
[15:41] <fagan> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:41] <fagan> nessita: ^
[15:41] <ralsina> dobey: ok, not reminding
[15:41]  * ralsina is booking buenos aires -> budapest -> istanbul->london->buenos aires now
[15:42] <fagan> ralsina: is it cheeper to book 2 months in advance?
[15:42] <ralsina> fagan: well, I am not paying, but I need to re-book my budapest flight because I am not coming back to buenos aires in between trips
[15:43] <fagan> ralsina: ahhhhhhh
[15:43] <ralsina> so I will be working from GMT+2 for two weeks
[15:44] <fagan> ralsina: well you are going to be all over the place timezone wise
[15:44] <ralsina> you are *all* going to look lazy to me.
[15:44] <ralsina> fagan: not really, 5 weeks at GMT+1 and +2
[15:44] <fagan> ralsina: I am lazy anyway so its not hard
[15:44] <fagan> ralsina: oh your gone that long
[15:45] <ralsina> yeah, May 3 to Jun 12
[15:45] <fagan> and you said you haven't been away from your family for that long ever or are you bringing them for some of it?
[15:45] <ralsina> they are coming to Turkey with me
[15:45] <fagan> ah then its not so bad
[15:45] <ralsina> Yeah, we are staying with my wife's family
[15:46] <ralsina> Cheaper than staying a week in London anyway
[15:46] <fagan> turkey is supposed to be fun
[15:47] <fagan> ralsina: I get to go to the full team sprint yeah? (just making sure)
[15:47] <ralsina> fagan: I don't know!
[15:47] <ralsina> fagan: I will find out.
[15:47] <fagan> hah :)
[15:47] <ralsina> But first I will hack a bit so I don'tget fired before the trip, you know.
[15:47] <ralsina> that would be a bummer
[15:47] <fagan> ralsina: yeah same here :)
[15:48] <fagan> (just in case)
[15:48] <ralsina> fagan: come on, I already gave you a pat in the back today. Don't get greedy ;-)
[15:48] <fagan> ralsina: yeah I should quit while im ahead
[15:48] <fagan> not literally
[15:48] <fagan> :D
[15:49]  * fagan hopes that doesnt get onto the quotes wall 
[15:49] <dobey> ralsina: well, really, i *am* lazy. not denying it.
[15:50] <dobey> i may be a god, but i'm still only human.
[15:50] <ralsina> dobey: as long as you are lazy as Larry Wall suggests, that's ok
[15:50] <fagan> dobey: well you probably beat me for productivity anyway so you are fine
[15:51] <dobey> well i always do 6 impossible things before breakfast, so it's all good
[15:52] <fagan> dobey: well I do 12 possible things after breakfast so quality over quantitiy :)
[15:53] <fagan> id say the biggest increase in productivity came when I hotkeyed my music player
[15:56] <ralsina> dobey's todo list: create rock I can't lift (check)
[15:57] <dobey> it's not that i can't lift it. it's that i just don't really feel like it.
[15:59] <fagan> hmmm interesting bug Bug #666202 wishlist?
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 666202 in ubuntuone-client "Import mutiple contact from file (ldif, csv, ...) (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666202
[15:59] <ralsina> yes, wishlist
[15:59] <dobey> not ubuntuone-client
[15:59] <ralsina> probably for evolution?
[15:59] <dobey> no
[16:00] <fagan> not really evo's prob
[16:00] <ralsina> well, we use e-d-s contacts...
[16:00] <ralsina> so if it's implemented in evolution we get it "for free"
[16:00] <dobey> well he specifically meantions "unsupported stuff like Thunderbird"
[16:01] <dobey> evolution itself already has contacts importing, yes
[16:01] <ralsina> oh, ok, was just thinkingm about the title
[16:01] <dobey> i would think servers.
[16:01] <fagan> ooooh then we can go invalid and say they can import into evo and the other unsupported clients can use plugins
[16:02] <dobey> ie, have a thing on the web site to upload a ldif or vcard file, and have it import the contacts
[16:02] <fagan> because we shouldnt really have a thing that does specifically what he is asking
[16:02] <fagan> since it can be implemented in the programs themselves
[16:02] <dobey> it's not invalid
[16:02] <ralsina> mention evolution, plugins and servers, amrk wishlist
[16:03] <fagan> oki doke
[16:03] <ralsina> ask for clarification on where he wants the contacts, assign to right project
[16:03] <ralsina> which yes, may be the web team
[16:04]  * alecu sprints to the ferry. Will be back online in ~3hs
[16:04] <fagan> well the web sounds about right
[16:12] <fagan> ooooooh I found out something interesting for dobey
[16:12] <dobey> my hovercraft is full of eels?
[16:13] <fagan> looking at the deps for ubuntuone-client in natty it conficts with nautilus-ubuntuone ubuntuone-client-gnome ubuntuone-oauth-login ubuntuone-storagefs
[16:13] <dobey> yes
[16:13] <fagan> see anything familiar?
[16:13] <dobey> but that's not the problem
[16:14] <fagan> ah ok I thought it conflicting would be the problem
[16:14] <dobey> Conflicts: ubuntuone-oauth-login, nautilus-ubuntuone, ubuntuone-storagefs, ubuntuone-client-gnome (<< 1.5.7)
[16:14] <dobey> notice the << there
[16:14] <fagan> ahhh ok
[16:14] <dobey> that was added a while ago, when we moved the icon files.
[16:14] <dobey> nightlies also have that same conflicts
[16:15] <fagan> yeah I got it now the version is different
[16:15] <fagan> im on the nightly
[16:15] <fagan> oh and im looking at Bug #667804
[16:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 667804 in ubuntuone-client "gnome-common should be a build dependency (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667804
[16:16] <fagan> oh a build dep my bad
[16:16]  * fagan was looking at package deps 
[16:17] <fagan> (might be one already for the build deps but didnt check)
[16:17] <nigelb> hrm, no sil today I guess.
[16:17] <nigelb> I wonder if he fried his machine
[16:17] <fagan> nigelb: he was here earlier
[16:17] <nigelb> fagan: would you like to talk at UOW about Ubuntu one?
[16:17] <dobey> fagan: and that but is invalid anyway, as i just marked it
[16:17] <fagan> nigelb: well I can talk about being an intern and all that
[16:18] <fagan> dobey: cool
[16:18] <fagan> I was going to check
[16:18] <nigelb> fagan: you mean breaking everything? :p
[16:19] <fagan> nigelb: yeah :D
[16:19] <fagan> (someone reads my blog I see)
[16:19] <nigelb> heh
[16:19] <nigelb> I wanted someone to talk about how awesome ubuntu one is and what are the latest features
[16:19] <fagan> nigelb: I can do it then
[16:20] <fagan> as long as its nothing too deep into the tech since im still new to most of the code myself :)
[16:20] <fagan> as long as its cool with ralsina :)
[16:20] <nigelb> Its mostly for the user, not the developer.
[16:20] <dobey> ubuntuone is awesome.
[16:21] <dobey> you can quote me on it
[16:21] <nigelb> fagan: Special offer for agreering, you can pick your own slot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[16:21] <nigelb> let me know and I'll add you
[16:21] <fagan> nigelb: yeah then I can definitely do it
[16:22] <fagan> ralsina: Is it ok if I take an hour to talk about u1 for UOW?
[16:22] <ralsina> fagan: sure, freedom of speech and all those things ;-)
[16:22] <nigelb> hehe
[16:22] <fagan> cool
[16:23] <fagan> nigelb: mark me down for 1600 UTC 2 may
[16:23] <nigelb> ok!
[16:23] <fagan> just call it u1 is awesome
[16:23] <fagan> as per dobey's suggestion
[16:23] <nigelb> heh
[16:23] <nigelb> as opposed to U2? :p
[16:24] <fagan> 1 is the new 2
[16:24] <fagan> aquarius: you timed that just right
[16:24] <nigelb> fagan: done :)
[16:24] <fagan> cool
[16:25] <nigelb> aquarius: are you taking breaks to cool down your processor? ;-)
[16:25]  * ralsina puts his u2 albums on u1 now
[16:25] <CardinalFang> hah.
[16:25] <fagan> ralsina: how poetic
[16:25] <nigelb> If we had a quote library that deserved to go into it :p
[16:26] <fagan> nigelb: there is one :)
[16:26] <dobey> bash.org /is/ a quote library
[16:26] <ralsina> fagan: is there?
[16:26] <fagan> ralsina: on the wiki
[16:26] <ralsina> oh, the wiki is so full of things I never am going to read ;-)
[16:26] <nigelb> dobey: bash.org, meh
[16:26] <nigelb> fagan: where?
[16:26] <fagan> ralsina: it has a pretty busy quotes wall
[16:26] <nigelb> i.e. were on the wiki?
[16:27] <fagan> nigelb: do you have access to wiki.canonical.com?
[16:27] <nigelb> ah, no.
[16:27] <fagan> nigelb: yeah its in there :)
[16:27] <nigelb> (Not yet :p)
[16:27] <dobey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quotes
[16:28] <fagan> oh I didnt know it was on the ubuntu wiki too
[16:28] <dobey> well private quotes don't go on public wikis obviously
[16:28] <fagan> its a lot less busy than the other one
[16:28] <fagan> I got on the other one in the 3rd day
[16:29] <nigelb> dammit,so unfair I can't see it :p
[16:29] <fagan> nigelb: your not missing much
[16:30] <nigelb> quotes are always fun
[16:30] <fagan> I said loads of things that could go in there and no one did it
[16:30] <nigelb> I showed you the mozilla one remember?
[16:30] <nigelb> it should be like that.
[16:30] <fagan> nigelb: I didnt see that one..?
[16:30] <nigelb> fagan: You even linked it in your blog
[16:30] <aquarius> nigelb, actually, almost, yeah
[16:31] <fagan> ooooh
[16:31] <fagan> that was ages ago then
[16:31]  * fagan never remembers stuff after like 3 months 
[16:31] <nigelb> 2 weeks :p
[16:31] <fagan> woot
[16:31] <nigelb> ok, may be more :p
[16:31] <nigelb> aquarius: ouch I feel your main. my box is the same.
[16:31] <fagan> ok then I need to get myself checked out for some serious memory leaks
[16:32] <nigelb> aquarius: if I look at the julia sets that run on a browser, my machine overheats :(
[16:33] <nigelb> fagan: It was on april 14-15 ;)
[16:33] <dobey> nigelb: welcome to the futre of the web
[16:33] <fagan> nigelb: oh thats not long
[16:34]  * fagan threads his many archives 
[16:34] <nigelb> ralsina: you need to run fagan in valgrind overnight :P
[16:34] <nigelb> there is a memory leak somewhere...
[16:34] <fagan> defintely
[16:35] <nigelb> If only the Ubuntu one position weren't too much design oriented I would have applied.
[16:36] <fagan> nigelb: well there seems to be work for almost anything in the u1 team
[16:36] <fagan> so there is design and backend...etc
[16:36] <nigelb> fagan: tempting.
[16:36] <dobey> lunch time. bbiab
[16:36] <nigelb> what the hell. /me clicks apply anyway.
[16:36] <fagan> hah
[16:37] <fagan> nigelb: ok im not going crazy I didnt link it :D
[16:38] <nigelb> fagan: ah, eventualy you didn't. Hrm something made me think you did.
[16:38] <fagan> nigelb: hmmmm if I did on twitter or something id very easily forget
[16:39] <nigelb> fagan: I linked it to you in #lp :P
[16:39] <fagan> ahhhh I probably looked at it and put it on twitter after looking at it
[16:39] <nigelb> ahh.
[16:40] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[16:40]  * fagan spends a lot of time complaining on #lp only to find that he is crazy 
[16:40] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[16:41] <nigelb> I came to recruit someone from U1 team for UOW, and I got fagan \o/
[16:41] <duanedesign> awesome
[16:41] <fagan> nigelb: I dont think thats something to brag about :D
[16:41] <duanedesign> nigelb: i am going to put my talk together tommorrow
[16:41] <duanedesign> tomorrow*
[16:41] <nigelb> :)
[16:41] <nigelb> fagan: It is :D
[17:00] <nessita> linchtime!
[17:00] <nessita> and also lunchtime :-)
[17:01] <fagan> nessita: lol
[17:01]  * fagan takes a break as well for some food has an hour left on the clock 
[17:47] <dobey> can i have a second review on https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging/+merge/59088 please?
[17:56] <fagan> dobey: +1
[17:57] <nessita> dobey: is ok that the in file for syncdaemon is not .in?
[17:57] <nessita> (but syncdaemon.conf)
[17:58]  * fagan was just doing a code review not the specifics
[17:58] <dobey> nessita: it's just listed in the variable so that it gets disted. it doesn't actually go through any of the rules to convert it, so it just gets pulled in and installed as expected
[17:59] <nessita> dobey: ah, thanks for the clarification
[17:59] <dobey> nessita: and yes, i did make distcheck, and looked in the tarball to verify that it was there and had the config in it :)
[18:00] <nessita> dobey: great, you alrady have 2 approval, I was just looking since I was curious about what the fix was
[18:00] <dobey> nessita: sure. figured it would be good if you knew how to test it, also :)
[18:01] <nessita> thanks
[18:04] <dobey> as i will have 3 more branches proposed soon for the stable series that do the same thing
[18:33] <fagan> ooooh I forgot about this but the guy in Bug #666202 reminded me that a guy at mozilla is going to get u1 contact sync working with tb
[18:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 666202 in ubuntuone-client "Import mutiple contact from file (ldif, csv, ...) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666202
[18:38]  * fagan clocks off
[18:39] <fagan> (I just realised I was about to do more work and went "oh I should have finished like 15 mins ago"
[18:39] <fagan> )
[18:40] <ralsina> yes, project is called hedera or something like that, right?
[18:40] <fagan> ralsina: ?
[18:41] <fagan> didnt think there was a name for it just the guy from the bug linked to his blog post about it
[18:43] <ralsina> fagan: https://launchpad.net/hedera
[18:45] <fagan> ahhhh
[18:45] <fagan> yeah I just saw the name on his blog
[18:46] <fagan> james tait made it originally
[18:47] <dobey> should rename it to firebird
[18:48] <fagan> dobey: isnt there already a project named firebird
[18:48] <fagan> and a guitar
[18:49]  * fagan likes a bit of a firebird they be a tasty snack 
[18:50] <dobey> and a car
[18:50] <fagan> dobey: your right
[18:50] <dobey> firebird is what firefox used to be named
[18:50] <fagan> dobey: thats what im thinking of
[18:50] <dobey> but they had to rename because of the database also named dfirebird
[18:51] <fagan> dobey: yeah firefox is a better name anyway
[18:51] <dobey> and thunderbird is also a bum wine: http://bumwine.com/tbird.html
[18:51] <dobey> not really
[18:51] <fagan> and a bird made of thunder
[18:51] <fagan> :D
[18:52] <dobey> red pandas have nothing to do with webs or browsing them
[18:54] <ralsina> also, thunderbirds was done in super marionation!
[18:54] <ralsina> oops, "supermarionation".
[18:56] <rye> fagan, and before firebird it was phoenix
[18:56] <fagan> and before that it was netscape navigator
[18:56] <fagan> :)
[18:57] <dobey> oh crap
[18:57] <ralsina> amazing, I didn't know that the mouth movements of the thunderbirds puppets were done automatically by solenoids actuationg off pre-recorded voices!
[18:57] <dobey> grrr
[18:57] <rye> fagan, no, we are missing "mozilla suite" here
[18:57] <ralsina> netscape gold FTW
[18:57] <dobey> WTF LAUNCHPAD
[18:58] <fagan> rye: hah
[18:58] <dobey> crap crap crap
[18:58] <fagan> dobey: did you break lp?
[18:58] <dobey> no
[18:58] <ralsina> lp rarely needs help breaking
[18:58] <dobey> i am just horribly blind
[18:58] <ralsina> ok, that was unfair of me
[18:59] <fagan> ralsina: ahhh to be fair its ok 90% of the time
[18:59] <ralsina> dobey: you should use a font that's more than 4pt tall ;-)
[18:59] <fagan> it just breaks in inconvienent times
[18:59] <dobey> ralsina: it is 8 pt i think
[19:00] <rye> ralsina, well...
[19:00] <fagan> anyhow im off for reals
[19:00] <ralsina> dobey: well, considering your DPI it's more like 5pt physically
[19:00] <fagan> see you all tomorrow
[19:00] <dobey> no it wasn't launchpad's fault
[19:00] <ralsina> bye fagan!
[19:01] <fagan> ralsina: if you have any ideas for my UOW talk next monday reply to my email on ubunet
[19:01] <rye> ralsina, I suppose you have seen dobey's laptop, right? - http://ubuntuone.com/p/opN/
[19:01] <dobey> i broke trunk
[19:02] <ralsina> fagan: I was sitting next to it. Couldn't read a thing in it.
[19:02] <fagan> dobey: :(
[19:02] <dobey> rye: i took my new laptop to buenos aires
[19:02] <dobey> rye: i didn't take the fujitsu :(
[19:02] <ralsina> rye: dobey's IC window is a large poststamp
[19:02] <dobey> broken video drivers
[19:02] <ralsina> s/IC/IRC/
[19:02] <fagan> ewww
[19:03] <rye> dobey, ah, dell mini, with touchscreen and all that stuff?
[19:03] <dobey> rye: yeah
[19:03] <dobey> dell duo
[19:03] <rye> duo, right
[19:04] <dobey> stupid intel
[19:04] <dobey> if you don't want people shipping poulsbo, stop selling the damn chips!
[19:05] <dobey> nessita: so that fix for the DEBUG issue didn't quite work out like i wanted :(
[19:05] <nessita> dobey: why not?
[19:05] <nessita> you need to regenerate the syncdaemon.conf?
[19:05] <dobey> 23	CLEANFILES = \
[19:05] <dobey> 24	+ $(config_DATA) \
[19:06] <dobey> because tarmac does make clean after running the tests, so it ended up committing the removal of syncdaemon.conf :(
[19:06] <dobey> i should have realized that
[19:06] <dobey> blah
[19:07] <nessita> hum
[19:08] <dobey> but i am fixing
[19:08] <dobey> i already reverted my change
[19:08] <nessita> dobey: is it possible to actually build the logging.conf file at install time with the proper value?
[19:11] <dobey> nessita: i don't understand the question? things get built at build time
[19:11] <duanedesign> rye: i was triaging bug 766728 then today i came across bug 731101 saw you had commented on that one and was wondering if you knew anything more about it and whether those might be related?
[19:11] <ubot4> duanedesign: Bug 766728 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/766728 is private
[19:12] <ubot4> duanedesign: Bug 731101 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/731101 is private
[19:12] <nessita> right, sorry, I meant build. But if I understood correctly, yesterday you mentioned that the logging.conf file wasn't being built becasue if was already present in the tarball, no?
[19:12] <nessita> dobey: so, isn't the solution to ensure that the logging.conf is not present in the tarball?
[19:12] <dobey> nessita: well, because the file was "already up to date" and automake thought it didn't need to rebuild it
[19:13] <rye> duanedesign, wow
[19:13] <dobey> nessita: yes, and that's what my branch does; except it also caused syncdaemon.conf to get removed on make clean; which was a dumb oversight that i am now fixing
[19:15] <duanedesign> rye: i also had this one written down bug 735987
[19:15] <ubot4> duanedesign: Bug 735987 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/735987 is private
[19:17] <dobey> ooh, i can drill for oil or natural gas deposits in my yard without a permit. whoo!
[19:19] <rye> duanedesign, the only thing i see in common is the usage of ecryptfs; I don't think it is ~/Private since the amount of data in the bug report do not indicate much interaction with the system, so it must be some default from the installer, i.e. encrypted home directory
[19:23] <duanedesign> aha
[19:49] <dobey> thisfred, fagan: could you please re-review on https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging/+merge/59114 ? thanks.
[19:49] <thisfred> sure
[19:50] <thisfred> dobey: I see conflicts in the diff now
[19:53] <dobey> doh
[19:54] <dobey> thisfred: fixed/pushed the conflict resolution
[19:54] <thisfred> thx
[20:11] <dobey> i guess i'm not getting a re-review from fagan today
[20:12] <dobey> nessita: you want to re-review my branch? :)
[20:16] <nessita> dobey: sure! where is it?
[20:18] <dobey> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging/+merge/59114
[20:18]  * nessita looks
[20:52] <tuhlm> rodrigo_: did you read my mail
[21:03] <nessita> dobey: make distcheck is failing with *** gtk-doc must be installed and enabled in order to make dist, was wa sthe option to pass to autogen? --enable-doc?
[21:05] <dobey> --enable-gtk-doc
[21:06] <dobey> and you have to make -C libsyncdaemon before distcheck will work
[21:16] <nessita> dobey: I'm now having this error: cp x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/tmpl/*.sgml ../../ubuntuone-client-1.7/docs/reference/tmpl
[21:16] <nessita> cp: cannot stat `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/tmpl/*.sgml': No such file or directory
[21:16] <nessita> make[4]: [dist-hook] Error 1 (ignored)
[21:18] <dobey> nessita: oh right, need to do make -C docs first too probably
[21:18]  * nessita tries
[21:20] <nessita> dobey: nopes... make -C docs says "make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'."
[21:21] <dobey> hrmm, can you pastebin the full error output?
[21:21] <nessita> yes
[21:26] <nessita> dobey: https://pastebin.canonical.com/46719/
[21:26] <nessita> alecu: hey there, how are things going re: the complicated pulseaudio stuff?
[21:27] <alecu> nessita, I've traced it to libcanberra
[21:27] <dobey> nessita: hrmm, can you pastebin the output of autogen.sh? it's complaining because the html files weren't built. seems like you are perhaps missing a dep
[21:27] <alecu> nessita, it's used by gtk to play system sounds (the desktop starting up, and clicking on buttons, and so on)
[21:28] <alecu> nessita, and it seems that since it can't find a pulseaudio running it tries to start it up, but it fails, and keeps retrying.
[21:29] <alecu> nessita, right now I'm looking into the libcanberra for some way to disable the pulseaudio driver.
[21:29] <dobey> alecu: why would pulseaudio not be starting?
[21:29] <alecu> dobey, because it's starting inside the dbus-test-runner
[21:29] <nessita> dobey: sure
[21:29] <dobey> alecu: ah
[21:30] <dobey> alecu: unset GTK_MODULES in run-tests.sh
[21:30] <alecu> dobey, that sounds useful
[21:30] <nessita> dobey: ./autogen.sh --enable-gtk-doc, right?
[21:30] <dobey> nessita: yes
[21:31] <dobey> alecu: file a bug against ubuntuone-dev-tools about that. we should unset it in there for running tests
[21:31] <alecu> dobey, that should work, since GTK_MODULES contains "canberra-gtk-module:canberra-gtk-module"
[21:31] <alecu> dobey, great, thanks.
[21:32] <nessita> dobey: https://pastebin.canonical.com/46720/
[21:32] <dobey> alecu: right, that's why i suggested it :)
[21:33] <dobey> nessita: weird. if you do "apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-client" does it install anything else? (i presume you have nightlies enabled)
[21:34] <alecu> nessita, with the thing that dobey has just suggested, the tests are down to 30 seconds.
[21:34] <alecu> I'll make a branch with both this changes.
[21:35] <nessita> dobey: I do have nigthlies enabled, and no, nothing else is installed: https://pastebin.canonical.com/46721/
[21:35] <nessita> alecu: GROSO. Thanks
[21:35] <dobey> nessita: huh
[21:36] <dobey> nessita: if you do 'make -C docs clean' then 'make -C docs' does it build anything?
[21:37]  * nessita tries
[21:37] <nessita> dobey: it fails since it requires libsyncdaemon to be built, I'll build it as well
[21:38] <dobey> right
[21:38] <nessita> (I've make distclean before pasting the output of autogen)
[21:38] <dobey> nessita: you will probably also need to 'sudo rm -rf ubuntuone-client-1.7'
[21:38] <nessita> dobey: is building tons of stuff without the rm...
[21:39] <nessita> no errors, a couple of warnings, tons of things built
[21:39] <nessita> dobey: want the output of that?
[21:39] <dobey> nessita: no. if it builds i'm happy
[21:40]  * nessita makes distcheck again, since she startes fresh
[21:40] <nessita> started*
[21:42] <alecu> nessita, dobey: if you can: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/eel-troubles/+merge/59123
[21:47] <nessita> dobey: make distcheck failed with the same error message, I'm approving the same, doesn't seem related and the branch makes sense
[21:48] <nessita> alecu:sure!
[21:48] <dobey> nessita: did you not rm -rf the dir before running distcheck again?
[21:49] <nessita> nopes
[21:49] <nessita> shall I?
[21:49]  * alecu has 10 minutes of battery, and no plug in sight.
[21:50] <dobey> nessita: i think that is why you are getting that error now, anyway
[21:50] <alecu> I guess I'll try finding an electrical outlet at the ferry terminal
[21:52] <nessita> dobey: it didn't work. I'm starting fresh after make distclean; sudo rm -rf ubuntuone-client-1.7
[21:52] <dobey> nessita: weird
[21:54] <dobey> alecu: +1 from me
[21:54] <alecu> dobey, bug #771488
[21:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771488 in ubuntuone-dev-tools "u1trial should unset GTK_MODULES (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771488
[21:54] <alecu> dobey, thanks.
[21:54] <dobey> alecu: great, thanks for the bug
[21:54] <alecu> thank you for the quick solution :-)
[21:57] <nessita> alecu: you have +1 as soon as I run the suite
[21:57] <alecu> nessita, it will run fast
[21:57] <alecu> anyway, I'm out of battery....
[21:57] <alecu> see you guys later
[21:57] <nessita> alecu: can you also commit --unchanged against bug #770393?
[21:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770393 in ubuntu-sso-client "Tests are slower than before (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770393
[21:57] <dobey> alecu: cheers
[21:58] <alecu> nessita, sure
[21:58] <nessita> alecu: thanks!
[21:59] <nessita> dobey: what's the etiquette to get approvals/land this https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-servers/remove-inkscape?
[22:01] <nessita> alecu: Ran 488 tests in 41.251s :-)
[22:01] <dobey> nessita: same as any others. tarmac manages the target branch, but we don't have automated builds of the packages yet, so we'll have to build new ones manually once it lands, but it's pretty easy to do
[22:01] <nessita> dobey: ah, so I need to merge propose against the parent branch, get reviews and then PQM it?
[22:03] <dobey> nessita: no PQM, tarmac handles it. but yes, propose and get reviews
[22:03] <dobey> nessita: i can tell you already that you need to fix debian/changelog
[22:04] <nessita> dobey: I used dch -i, what'sthe issue?
[22:05] <dobey> nessita: you have to go back and change the version after doing dch -i, since don't use the ubuntu1 there, and just use 0.XXX as a version number. Also, I think changelog entries should not be more than 80 chars wide, so need to split up the list of packages to multiple lines. and you should use your canonical e-mail address
[22:06] <nessita> ah, thanks for those pointers, I'll fix
[22:32] <thisfred> dogwalk o'clock. later y'all
[22:53] <dobey> later all