=== varta is now known as varta_ === varta_ is now known as varta [01:51] how can i get my laptop to find my desktop in vnc [01:51] over a wireless network [04:32] Good morning. A question on memory. System monitor reports 340MB instead of 350MB. How come? === m00se is now known as e === e is now known as m00se [06:08] Hi, i get SOME strange looking characters on my mozilla. I added a translator and i tried to translate some (chinese?) language and instead of english i get something like thailand lettering. I removed the translator but the characters are still there. I'm not even sure whether it was removed completely. [06:16] Anyone awake? [06:38] I haven't had this much fun on a computer in years! [06:39] I'm setting up my daughter's first desktop. [06:39] She's going to like the QuietPurple theme === thermi is now known as Thermi [13:09] Best twitter client for xubuntu? [13:10] the one you like the most [13:42] Does anyone here know how to make the Pidgin text input window bigger? No one at pidgin irc is answering [13:42] http://imagebin.org/150211 [13:49] I can't type properly in this stupidly small space [13:53] Mark76: did you try changing your gtk theme? === Pici` is now known as Pici [15:12] what do I use to view files on a network? [15:14] gigolo [15:15] thanks [15:15] if you mean the 'windows network' [15:15] aka smb [15:15] yes, that is what I meant, thanks [15:15] I did, but it hasn't made any difference [15:16] Mark76: anything custom in your .gtkrc-2.0? [15:16] Nope [15:17] It only seems to affect some tabs. Not all [15:21] Like this one [16:18] hello [16:19] just installed xubuntu 7.1 on a Mac G3 and I can't get out of busybox [16:19] no such release [16:20] also, you might check the #ubuntu-ppc channel [16:20] !ppc [16:20] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [16:21] We never had a 7.1, and anything older than 8.10 is unsupported now [16:21] ok. I'll try and find 8.1 and give it a go [16:22] there is no 8.1 [17:55] this new xfce is really nice and more polished than 4.6 ver [18:05] is it? [18:05] yep [18:05] what makes you think so? [18:05] well i have used xfce since 4.3 [18:06] you mean you only used xfce4? [18:06] backly [18:06] basicly [18:07] thare were differances between even in the various 4.whatever lines [18:07] so what is really nice in it in particular? [18:07] faster cleaner and easyer configing === Pici is now known as Guest67539 === Pici` is now known as Pici [19:58] hey, need a little help [19:58] i lost the volume control with the gmusicbrowser thing [19:58] all i can add back is the mixer [20:02] i'm gonna go have a smoke, so i'll be afk for a sec, if someone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated [20:08] First left. then take a right [20:11] Past the wheelie bins and it's the third door on your left [20:12] ha [20:14] try indicator-plugin [20:15] yup that did it [20:15] thanks [20:16] i didn't bother to think that was what did it [20:16] i was trying to remove the email/pidgin icon [20:16] i guess i removed the whole indicator [20:17] that would be done by removing indicator-messages with package manager [20:18] again thanks [20:20] thank you, quick apt-get remove and a kill -HUP and i'm happy now [20:20] not used to debian/ubuntu [20:20] not knew to linux though [20:20] been using since Slackware 3 [20:20] I've been using Arch for the last few years [20:21] got tired of fidling with config files etc [20:21] XChat, skip network list on startup, not working, Xubuntu 10.04lts. [20:21] just wanted this desktop to work [20:22] ArisVer: what do you mean, skip network list? [20:23] Xchat starts with a screen asking which network to use, doesn't it? [20:23] Then you have to click connect to actually do a connection? [20:23] Yes, there is a check box, but still comes with the screen. [20:23] if it doesn't connect to a network, what will it do? [20:24] No, the programs i have loaded come back on restart. [20:24] (most of them) [20:25] I set up the connections manually. [20:25] And they connect automatically. [20:26] I think that is a feature of Xchat, if you leave it open when restarting [20:26] I'll close now and check. [20:27] The screen did not come back now. It's gone. === Thermi is now known as thermi [21:03] Anyone there? I'm new to xchat and xubuntu [21:05] mikeatvillage: Ask your question. If someone knows he will answer you. [21:06] I have plugged in a usb handset but skype does not see it and I can't figure out how to get it recognised [21:10] Is there a way to put irc on Pidgin? [21:11] Pidgin does handle IRC [21:12] I'm using Pidgin right now [21:12] You just have to add an iRC account [21:13] For whichever network you want to connect to [21:13] Mark76: Did you ever try Finch? (CLI interface to pidgin and looks just like it) [21:13] I haven't [21:13] mikeatvillage: try all the usb ports to see if one will recognize it [21:13] Put the 8001 number at port? [21:14] thanks charlie, I will try now... [21:15] it might show up as a drive instead of phone, too [21:17] From Pidig i got a 'NickServ: (notice) ArisVer1 is not a registered nickname'. [21:18] ArisVer: You can't have 2 clients running with the same nick [21:19] Unit193: What can i do? [21:19] no luck charlie :-( tried all usb ports. [21:20] Log one out or use a different nick in one of the clients(and you're doing that in pidgin) [21:20] ArisVer: ^^ [21:21] does anyone know of a GOOD! video slideshow creator for Ubuntu as I am trying to create a vcd for mothers day coming up [21:22] mikeatvillage: with the phone p [21:22] See ArisVer1 [21:22] plugged into the computer, does it show anyting in lspci for it? [21:22] Just noticed that in Additional Drivers (Nvidia - Current version) "This driver is activated but not currently in use". The -current driver works on this machine in Debian and LMDE. Is there something I have missed doing to "use" the proprietary driver in Xubuntu 11.04b[whatever] ? [21:23] Does this mean that i can close xchat and use pidgin? [21:23] drc: have you restarted since installing it? [21:23] ArisVer: If you want [21:24] mikeatvillage: I could suggest trying in #ubuntu-beginners for more help with that [21:24] ArisVer1: You can now change your nick in Pidgin to ArisVer [21:24] Write test! [21:24] Nothing that looks relevant charlie [21:24] So it doesn't see it at all [21:24] charlie-tca: Many times...this also happens in ubuntu 11.04/Unity...although Unity appeared to work there. [21:25] tvm, I'll head over there [21:25] drc: try clicking the activate button again, and let it reinstall it [21:25] I forgot the command to see exactly which video driver being used.... [21:25] Unit193: How? [21:26] activate button? [21:26] charlie-tca: Done that, several times. [21:26] sorry, not for me :-) [21:26] command for which video driver? I use lspci or look in /var/log/xorg [21:27] drc: if unity worked, it is probably gallium [21:29] XChat seems better. It can remember some commands. [21:29] charlie-tca: Sounds like something I saw ...somewhere. [21:30] gallium is the latest non-proprietary driver for both ati and nvidia [21:30] it works well for some cards [21:33] ArisVer: Was AFK. You can do that with Accounts > {IRC Account} > Username [21:33] charlie-tca: It worked well with Unity for me. [21:34] Yes, but, XChat seems better. It can remember some commands. [21:35] Like msg nickserv identify [21:36] Pidgin can auto ident with nickserv. But each person should use what they like best! (I use irssi) [21:36] weechat is very good too [21:37] How about joining channels? I have not seen an option there. [21:37] pidgin? [21:37] I think it is harder to use [21:37] On Pidgin. [21:37] I never found an easy way to join channels in pidgin [21:40] File{ish} > Join chat [21:41] Where? [21:42] Using Pidgin i can log in with my nick, but i have to manually enter channels. [21:44] i'm currently on irssi, but i like xchat quite much, it's simple [21:50] irssi with some config to tell you what channels go with what numbers makes it easy [21:52] i wouldn't use irssi if i wanted autoconnects [21:53] Weechat; features of irrsi with autoconnect and channel names? [21:54] charlie-tca: irssi can/does have that (I just don't like autojoin) [21:55] charlie-tca: irssi autoconnects and idents with nickserv for me too [21:55] afaik weechat doesn't differ that much about irssiabout features , it's just different [22:02] Interesting...redux again. It appears that the latest iteration of the Additional Drivers script(s) adds a xorg.conf that tells X not to show the nvidia logo on startup. Changed that and the nvidia logo turns up at the "normal" place in X startup. Looking at the Xorg.0.log it that X loads the nvidia drive and unloads all the other possible X video drivers (nouveau, etc.). [22:03] Practicing my google-fu turns up some posts that suggest that the reason for "not currently in use" is because I am not doing anything that requires the 3D aspects of the driver. Does this sound kosher? [22:04] I don't know, but I have always had it activate if I installed it with hardware/additional drivers. [22:04] I would be very skeptical about that suggestion [22:05] You could install foobilliard and find out for sure. It uses 3d [22:05] charlie-tca: Me also, but this has been consistent since doing fresh installs of X/Ubuntu 11.04b2+ [22:06] looking at my nvidia machine, let's see. [22:06] I have Experimental 3D support NVIDIA cards - not activated [22:06] but everything works [22:06] wrong [22:07] hilighting the driver, it is activated and in use [22:07] Is that the answer? highlight the driver, and see if it says activated? [22:07] nouveau overrides propietary one, check lspci -k [22:07] foobilliard appears to work, at least the first screen comes up [22:08] yeah, it always does, but is the action smooth or jerky? [22:08] you have wrong driver in xorg.conf or you need to additionally blackist nouveau [22:09] Sysi: Kernel driver in use: nvidia [22:09] from lspci -k [22:10] charlie-tca: All I have been able to do is move the perspective around, but that is smooth [22:11] just wish your system won't explode with updates.. i don't consider jockey trustworthy [22:11] and is the driver now activated? [22:11] (system now requires 3d) [22:12] charlie-tca: nope, activated but not in use [22:12] how does one play this game? [22:12] Pretty sure the ""not currently in use" is because I am not doing anything that requires the 3D aspects of the driver." is nonsense [22:14] roller on the mouse to hit hard or soft, enter to shoot, left/right arrows to move around the table, right control or right shift + left mouse to move the cue ball when allowed [22:15] ESC to bring up the menu [22:16] charlie-tca: smooth as silk [22:16] http://pastebin.com/KFF7D0W6 Xorg.0.log [22:16] I went and looked, right shift + left mouse to move the cue ball [22:16] Then it should be working, even if it doesn't know it [22:17] If it is smooth, 3d is working [22:17] charlie-tca: Ok, I'm officially confused now :) [22:18] NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 270.41.06 Mon Apr 18 14:55:51 PDT 2011 [22:18] Everything to be working correctly. It's not a big deal to me what the caption says, but it does confuse me. [22:18] looks like nvidia hardware driver [22:19] confusing, yes. Working, yes [22:19] Well, if I'm gonna play pool, I need some beer..... [22:19] I gave up confusion a while back, now I just go with what works [22:22] Yup...sounds like sage advice. [22:25] well, i'm out guys [22:25] untill next time [22:43] Great, now charlie-tca has turned my laptop into a pool hall :( [22:44] just click that little X in the top right corner, it will go away [22:45] neat little game, though, isn't it? [22:45] yup...I I remember a similiar (if not the same) from years (and years) ago...wasted too much time then too. [22:46] yup [22:46] umf, what game? didn't catch it from backlog [22:46] foobilliard [22:46] I it was on a mac though.... [22:47] When I first installed it, it was not very much fun, and did not work good at all [22:47] Now, though, with the improvements made to it and to Xubuntu, it is pretty good [22:47] bbs [22:57] hey [22:57] on ubuntu and linux mint xfce i cant go past the gdm [22:57] how can this be fixed? :P [22:58] Don't know how to fix Ubuntu or Mint [22:58] sorry [22:58] xubuntu [22:59] pedza, try doing sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [22:59] well [22:59] i just finished a fresh install [22:59] xubuntu natty beta 2 [22:59] i am using that right not [23:00] it has xubuntu-desktop as far as i know [23:00] yeah [23:00] i want to use it too but cant [23:00] Did you change themes? [23:00] i just installed it [23:00] do you have a 3d gfx card [23:00] ?? [23:00] cant even log in [23:00] integrated graphics card [23:00] the laptop is [23:00] hp 530 [23:00] is it 3d capabile [23:00] think so [23:00] i could run unity quite well [23:00] what is it? [23:01] Try going to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in and remove the .config files [23:01] hmm [23:01] ya [23:01] all of them? [23:01] i would sugest that as well [23:01] yes [23:01] the command is [23:01] the files probably are not compatible with the current install [23:01] rm [23:01] ? [23:01] rm ~/.config [23:01] yep [23:02] and rm ~/.cache [23:02] cannot remove ... : is a directory [23:02] :p [23:02] then Ctrl+Alt+del [23:02] OH [23:02] forgot [23:02] rm -r ~/.config [23:02] and rm -r ~/.cache [23:04] rm ~/.ICEauthority [23:04] ahhh [23:04] worked [23:04] thanks :) [23:04] n/p [23:04] pedza, just a config file messed up some how [23:05] but now i get a crappy default desktop :P [23:05] :) [23:05] yeah [23:05] you can try something new then :P [23:06] i am [23:06] thanks guys ^^ [23:07] If you change the theme to wildbush, it will fret [23:07] gonna do another fresh install [23:07] it will lock you out again [23:07] how do i enable control alt backspace to restart X, under xfce? [23:07] no idea [23:08] and by trial and error find out which config files are troublesome [23:08] xorg thing [23:09] xorg.conf is propably easiest, but altGr printScr K is new binding for that [23:17] is xubuntu used by any governments etc? [23:28] that i dont just dont know [23:28] if thay do thay ant talking about it [23:28] That's because I can't remember no more [23:32] ok :)