[00:00] I share the network to friends at college using an access point. [00:00] This will now mean that /they/ can switch on the gateway too. [00:01] :D [00:01] as no password is required! [00:04] All I need to do now is set up NM dispatcher to 'sudo ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1430'. [00:05] There really should be an MTU setting for mobile broadband. [00:15] Hey! It's seems cnetworkmanager has been replaced with nmcli since last year. It's built in to NM and is therefore available without installation on Natty. [00:16] rww: Check out nmcli. [00:18] I'm having these small touchpad (Synaptic) problems in natty. Sometimes boxes like "Save" and "Cancel" in programs can't be clicked. I have to tab to them and then hit enter. One example is in the Synaptic package manager when installing. I can not click either "Apply" or "Cancel" in the popup window. I have to tab to one of them and hit enter. Any ideas what may be wrong? [00:19] i've seen that too.. [00:20] and since yesterday desktop effects are kinda buggy too [00:21] we're just going to have to get to launchpad and wait for some updates [00:23] kyubutsu, what kid of graphics card are you using? [00:23] i upgraded my computer. it used to connect to wifi with 10.10. but now it can't. but wifi is available under lspci. what can i do? [00:23] radeon hd 5450 with fglrx [00:24] kyubutsu, I've got nvidia, so it can't be related to that [00:24] ceed^: It's not the touchpad. I have a pointing stick. Buttons work in some places not others. They usually work round the edges. [00:24] definitely a bug [00:25] JamesJRH, good to now. Thought it was problems with the Synaptic touchpad driver again. It was really messed up a couple of weeks ago and crashed X. Not fun. [00:25] kyubutsu, I wou like to report it, but it's so "all over the place" that it's hard to point to where the bug belongs [00:26] anyone know how to speed up compiz on my nvidia geforce 8600M? minimizing windows is laggy [00:26] GTK maybe... [00:27] It doesn't always happen. [00:27] I can't seem to reproduce the bug right now. [00:27] JamesJRH, it always happen in the package manager though. When I'm installing something I can never click on "Apply" [00:28] i've experience this in different apps [00:29] but JamesJRH is right, its not a consistent bug, but it is there [00:30] ceed^: Both the big icon with a tick on the main window, and the apply button on the summary dialog are working for me. [00:30] JamesJRH, it's the buttons on the popup where you confirm installation that isn't working for me. [00:32] ceed^: Can you confirm that it works *anywhere* on the button? Try top, top-right, right, etc.. [00:32] Does it highlight on hover? [00:32] hey guys, can anyone tell me how to get multitouch working in Natty on my laptop? [00:34] JamesJRH, The "Apply" on the popup works on the edges, "Cancel" doesn't work at all. The Apply button on Synaptic itself works fine. Seems to happen more often on popup windows. [00:35] No sorry, "Cancel" works on the edged also. [00:35] ceed^: Yes, it's the same bug I'm getting. [00:35] (Sometimes getting) [00:37] The bug affects the highlight. If it highlights, it works. If it doesn't highlight it doesn't work. [00:42] I need help [00:43] I'm trying to use my tv as a monitor for my older laptop that has HDMI [00:43] anyone know how to get two-finger scrolling? [00:43] I have a nvidia graphics chip in this [00:43] But when I set up the TV as a display, it cuts off a part of the top and left [00:43] I have no idea how to fix this [00:44] aroman: Look in Mouse > Touchpad. [00:46] Kyubey: Sounds like a graphics driver bug. [00:46] Maybe file it on Launchpad if not already filed. [00:47] Kyubey: Or a bug in Xorg. [00:48] aroman: Did you find 2 finger scrolling? [00:50] aroman: I've not tried it yet, but I was reading about multitouch earlier. [00:52] (I don't have a multitouchpad yet, but I should have one by Thursday. New laptop! :D ) [00:59] aroman: Look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad [01:00] New plan! [01:00] Since my TV does have vga, and apparently it supports the 1920*1080 VGA just fine [01:00] I'm going to buy a VGA cable and use that instead [01:00] :) [01:00] and keep the hdmi for only my xbox/ps3 [01:00] thanks! :) [01:01] That will probably work, as HDMI drivers/support is not mature. [01:02] that makes me cry [01:02] it really does. [01:03] Kyubey: I'm suprised you don't have one. I have 2 or 3 unused VGA cables. [01:03] Internat: What does? === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 [01:04] ceed^: Can't find an existing bug report anywhere. [01:05] for the dodgy buttons. [01:07] ceed^: If you file it let me know, so I can vote for it. [01:07] JamesJRH, Okay, I will let you know [01:07] Thanks. [01:15] In FF4, why does ^Q not ask me to save and quit? [01:16] It just discards all my tabs without warning. [01:19] JamesJRH: the lack of decent hdmi audio support [01:19] i blacklistet a kernelmodule in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it is still loaded :< [01:21] Internat: HDMI is new, proprietary, and riddled with DRM. Of course it's not well supported yet. [01:23] Actually, I think it's an open standard, but nevertheless, it /is/ riddled with DRM technology. [01:25] oh i understand the reasons behind it. doesnt mean it doesnt make me cry :( [01:26] Lol. [01:27] If 11.04 is being released on the 28th, shouldn't an RC be out by now? or are they not having one this time around? [01:28] Flynsarmy, no rc [01:28] I think DRM is the only thing I don't like about HDMI. [01:28] just a bit painful when your building a media pc, and you want everythign going over hdmi, and then you struggle with audio [01:28] i can get basic audio. but having to screw with modprobe.conf to get it to even do that is annoying. [01:29] Flynsarmy: No RCs. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [01:34] Internat: I'm yet to test Natty (Mythbuntu) on a media center I built last year. The HDMI graphics output was low resolution. :( [01:35] Hopefully fixed now. [01:36] In FF4, why does ^Q not ask me to save and quit? [01:36] It just discards all my tabs without warning. [01:37] Internat: Out of curiosity - I have a media center PC with HDMI out plugged into an amp plugged into a PC. It's currently running windows and whenever I turn the TV off, the resolution changes down from 1920 to like 800 or something. Does Ubuntu have that same problem for you? [01:37] anyone try nvidia drivers with Geoforce FX 5200 ? [01:38] Internat: errr, HDMI out plugged into amp plugged into TV :) [01:45] I just raised this on Banshee: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648717 [01:45] Gnome bug 648717 in Playback "Subwoofer turned off in pulseaudio when manually playing a track" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [01:45] should it also exist on ubuntu's bug tracker? [01:48] In FF4, why does ^Q not ask me to save and quit? [01:48] It just discards all my tabs without warning. [01:49] JamesJRH: chrome does that to me. real annoying [01:49] JamesJRH: did you check the tab preferences? [01:50] Flynsarmy: Yeah, but Chrome/Chromium never did that, FF3 did. [01:50] Yes. [01:51] "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is checked. Very annoying. [01:52] nn [01:53] nn? [01:53] nighty night [01:54] GN. [01:56] I think FF4 does things differently. But how? What this tab grouping feature, can groups be saved? [01:57] What's* [01:58] peace ~ www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5SkO7rOSSg [01:59] hello [01:59] I have just installed gnome 3 in 11.04 [01:59] and unity and regular gnome crashed [01:59] is there any way to fix this [01:59] or it is better and quicker to reinstall it ? [02:06] Stameni, i reinstalled, it was easier. [02:07] KM0201 tnx, I`ll do that too [02:07] Stameni: do you know how to do ppa-purge? [02:08] no, I don`t, if i learn abat that, that will fix my problem ? [02:08] yes, but in the future don't install the Gnome 3 PPA, some things in there are broken [02:09] Stameni, i was able to successfully remove gnome-shell.. but it made my system very unstable, and unity never booted again (although ubuntu-classic did) === cryptk|offline is now known as cryptk [02:09] so i just reinstalled, it was less headache [02:09] KM0201 i will reinstall too ... thank you [02:10] jbicha, thank you too [02:10] Stameni, YMMV though, i would try uninstalling it, see if you have better luck. [02:11] i just figured out that I will anyway install final relese in day or two, so better to reinstall === nhandler is now known as Guest956 === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [02:17] it's basically finally release now anyway [02:24] Waldii: Totally off-topic, but you may be interested in this: http://ripple-project.org/ === kancerman_ is now known as kancerman [03:03] guys, how does one reach the various preferences and admin apps in unity? [03:04] and...is there a way to turn off the auto-hide behavior of the launcher? [03:05] jbwiv: I think so yes, look in gconf or ccsm [03:06] arand_, ok, thanks [03:07] Hey guys! Everytime I startup my computer Dropbox, Skype Call Recorder and workrave pop up because there is no system tray/notification area. Is there anyway to get this to stop happening? [03:08] looks like right-clicking the power icon will get you to System Settings. Odd :-/ [03:09] when is fedora 15 due to be released? [03:10] woops [03:10] June, iirc ? === cryptk is now known as cryptk|offline [03:14] hello, I'm using Natty and in the "mouse" preference, there is only one speed setting for all devices (touchpad, plug in mouse, trackpoint) [03:15] It's frustrating to have to adjust this every time I plug in a mouse [03:15] any suggestions? [03:17] god. it's painful to wait these last couple of days [03:18] hypodermia, not really.. :) [03:18] is there gonna be a releae party channle? [03:18] yes [03:18] !release-party [03:18] releaseparty [03:18] hypodermia: And what do you think is going to change in the next couple of days? [03:19] drc: i suppose i can grab the final release and get this computer shit out of the way [03:19] KM0201: see the /topic [03:19] trism, missed that.. :0 [03:19] hypodermia: grap the latest daily and update and you can have it in a couple of hours [03:19] drc: that's a clever plan. why didn't i think of that? [03:19] KM0201: also !party but yeah /topic :) [03:20] !party [03:20] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/ [03:21] * drc plans to party like it's 1999 [03:33] I'm running Unity on my Cr48, and I'd like to be able to start the launcher with the "search" key. Is there a terminal command to start the launcher? [03:34] or another way to emulate the press of "Super", since there is no super on it? [03:34] EpicCyndaquil: in ccsm on the unity plugin you can set the key to show the launcher, can you set it to the search key there? [03:34] well the search key is a media key, can configure it in KeyTouch [03:35] EpicCyndaquil: otherwise you could use: xdotool key Super [03:35] installing xdotool, I'll give it a shot [03:36] hm, oddly, the search key is bound in some other way, as it brings up "search for files" [03:37] !release-party is party [03:37] I'll remember that, rww [03:37] EpicCyndaquil: yeah it is bring up the home dash for me, although I disabled hiding the launcher [03:38] EpicCyndaquil: oh, I meant using xdotool and the Super key, not the search key [03:38] trism: I still don't understand, why is it bringing up this search? [03:39] and yes, that's what I'm doing, that isn't the issue (at least I don't think so) [03:40] EpicCyndaquil: hmm, just using the Super key (without xdotool) does the same thing [03:40] okay, well I disabled the search key in Keyboard Shortcut [03:42] but I don't know how to assign a new shortcut to the panel opening [03:42] do you know where I can do that? [03:42] *launcher open [03:43] EpicCyndaquil: I see the issue, it seems you need to hold Super to show the launcher, just clicking it brings up the dash [03:43] I don't believe so, typing in "xdotool key Super" in terminal works [03:46] Where can I reconfigure the launcher open option? [03:46] EpicCyndaquil: ccsm in the unity plugin [03:46] as in, if I wanted it to be a key other than Super? [03:46] how exactly do I get there? [03:46] EpicCyndaquil: install compizconfig-settings-manager and it will show up in System Settings [03:47] ah [03:47] strange that this is done within comipz [03:47] *compiz [03:50] got it working [03:50] all that information compiled together :) [03:51] EpicCyndaquil: excellent [03:55] also, can I disable the Gnome compatibility in CompizConfig? [03:56] or is it needed for Gnome apps? [03:56] (I'm new to Unity) [03:57] EpicCyndaquil, it's needed. Leave it alone. [03:58] I figured as much [03:58] Leave the Unity plugin alone too [03:59] of course. Can xdotool simulate multiple key presses? Such as "Ctrl+Shift+Alt "? [03:59] hey, is anyone out there running unity on Sandybridge? [04:00] EpicCyndaquil, it should be able to [04:00] is that the format I'd use? [04:00] Don't know [04:00] I use the tools that come with Gnome [04:01] because unity (I suspect the culprit is compiz 0.9x) locks up on me every few seconds, for a second or so when I'm using it [04:01] indeed, that does work, just using the + operator [04:01] its really irritating [04:03] the new launcher doesn't allow you to pass arguments to the application, or for that matter run other applications that don't appear in the launcher, like alt+f2 used to. Is there a way to get this behavior back? [04:03] or mimic it in some way? [04:08] jbwiv: not sure I understand, I just did alt+f2, gnome-terminal -x top; and it worked, for clicking in the launcher you can create custom launchers (right click the desktop, create launcher) and drag them over (or drag them to another folder and then drag them over so they don't clutter your desktop) [04:11] trism, ah...interesting. you are correct. I tried that once before and it didn't work, but it must've been my mistake [04:11] sorry ;-/ [04:11] sweet, thanks so much trism for xdotool, I love this thing [04:11] jbwiv: no problem, there are very likely bugs there, maybe you hit one [04:12] EpicCyndaquil: yes, it is very useful [04:27] small problem: After maximizing a terminal window, the top bar of Unity isn't showing, just a black bar [04:31] hey all... i dont know if this happened to anyone but... for some reason some times when i boot ubuntu, ubuntu stops booting giving me some irq error and caps lock light start flashing... anyone? [04:33] lucas-arg: I got a kernal error the other day that did that, did you play around with installing/uninstalling gnome-shell? [04:33] EpicCyndaquil: nope... plain ubuntu installation... [04:34] EpicCyndaquil: i dont even know how to report that bug in launchpad since i dont know where to look at in the logs [04:35] started happening after a plymouth upgrade... i hate plymouth [04:38] i hope some dev reads this === cryptk|offline is now known as cryptk [04:41] In unity; is there a way to rearrange the launchers on the left side ? [04:42] BitOperator: Off the top of my head, i think you just drag it a bit to the right then you can move it up or down [04:42] BitOperator: click and hold... while holding the mouse button take it off the dock and move it where u want to place the icon... it should move... [04:42] neat [04:43] thanks [04:43] hi [04:43] I have local ubuntu mirror, Can i populate the 11.04 repository, since it is not yet released ? [04:44] kaushal: Should be possible, I mean the state it is in now is very similar to what it will be upon release. [04:44] ok [04:47] is it natty,natty-security,natty-updates ? [04:48] where can i see the repositories pockets ? [04:49] arand_: you around ? [04:50] kaushal: just "natty [list of sections]" [04:50] arand_: not sure i understand that ? [04:50] "natty [list of sections]" ? [04:51] Security updates are "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty-security main restriced universe multiverse" normal [04:52] kaushal: Oh, hang on, you are actually correct, nevermind :D [04:52] arand_: where can i see the lists [04:53] Hmm, can the beta be upgraded to final ? [04:53] kaushal: I don't know, this is mine: http://paste.debian.net/115194/ [04:53] !final | BitOperator [04:53] BitOperator: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [04:53] Excellent, thankyou. [04:57] cant wait for natty to come out but i cant decide if i love unity or not just glad i got the option for ubuntu classic if i decide i dont [04:57] anyone try nvidia drivers with Geoforce FX 5200 ? [05:25] how do I get the mouse to switch btween desktops with wobbly windows? [05:36] how do I configure compiz to not have the focused window follow me from workspace to workspace? [05:49] where can I report a bug? [05:52] !bug | EpicCyndaquil [05:52] EpicCyndaquil: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [05:54] what is the name of the top bar within Unity? [05:54] (the one at the very top of the screen) [05:54] EpicCyndaquil, I believe it's called a panel. [05:58] thank you. [05:58] hi guys, so after doing a little test‌ing, I have discovered that compiz is freezy (it hangs when doing any 3D things intermittently). I would normally downgrade to maverick, bBut my my laptop (very new Dell with Sandybridge) needs the maverick kernel to work properly. Is there some way I can downgrade compiz to 0.8x on Natty? [05:59] i realize that would break unity, but as it is right now, its not worth it I'm afraid [06:01] aroman, if Compiz is messing with your laptop, why use it? You can revert to a classic GNOME desktop or Unity 2D. [06:02] andycc: because I like compiz, and its not compiz in general (I don't think at least) thats causing the issue, it's just the 0.9x series which is still not stable iirc [06:03] though i'm willing to try unity 2D; how would I go about doing that? [06:05] aroman: install unity-2d, change at GDM login [06:06] I think I might have just solved a bug [06:06] I'm shocked at myself [06:07] aroman, I believe you can also install the Natty kernel in Maverick. [06:07] andycc: ah that might work [06:07] I see http://www.chimerarevo.com/2011/02/07/ubuntu-10-10-come-installare-il-kernel-2-6-38/ as a guide (it's in Italian, though). [06:07] I'll need the natty version of xorg too [06:08] except now I'm having that window following issue again... [06:08] hello, I run Natty on virtualBox, and I cannot resize the Alt+F2 panel. The Panel cover the whole screen. Is there a way to resize it, and where ? === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 [06:12] jan__: does the Dash cover the whole screen also? [06:13] my dash convers the whole scren [06:13] i thought that was normal? === arand_ is now known as arand [06:20] is there any way to move the 11.04 sidebar to the bottom of the screen? [06:20] yes [06:20] jan__ how? [06:21] is it possible to get kde on 11.04? [06:21] alex__: yes [06:21] rww: how? [06:21] install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package [06:21] how ? [06:21] rww: i couldnt find it in the software center [06:22] alex__: install kubuntu 11.04 [06:22] alex__: update your package lists. The command-line for it is sudo apt-get update; I don't know how to do it in GUI because I don't use GNOME. [06:23] rww: i still cant find it [06:23] jan__, wait, you can move the dock to the bottom of the screen? [06:23] alex__: copy the output of "apt-cache policy" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here [06:24] perhaps click Show technical items [06:24] jan__: what's your VBox screen resolution? [06:25] rww: sry i couldnt get ur last message [06:26] alex__: run "apt-cache policy" in a Terminal. Copy and paste the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ . Take the address of the page it gives you and put it in this channel. [06:26] alex__, search for kubuntu-desktop in the software center; to update your package lists, run the Update Manager and hit "Check". [06:27] ("kubuntu-desktop", not just "kubuntu" or "kubuntu desktop") [06:27] andycc: i found it in the synaptic package manager [06:28] I did it cover my xhole screen : 1366x768 [06:28] I can move the dock ? [06:28] andycc: I don't understand [06:29] how do you move the sidebar? [06:29] I scroll [06:29] jan__, Alex asked if you can move the Unity dock and you (presumably) replied with "yes". [06:29] sorry [06:30] jan__: so is it possible? [06:30] I don't see where I could do it :/ [06:30] jan__: try http://askubuntu.com/q/36341/1579 for instructions on switching to desktop mode [06:30] alex__, no, you can't move the dock. [06:30] jan__: i think i saw an option in compizconfig, but it didn't do anything [06:33] this is a really stupid question, but how do you make another bar like the one at the top? [06:34] alex__, in Unity? Not exactly possible. [06:36] lol the sidebar is a ripoff of windows 7 [06:36] bye everyone, and thanks for the help [06:38] hey guys, new user here. Usb wireless adapter worked out of the box (driver: rt2800usb version 2.6.38-8), but it throttles like crazy, while updating my packages sees speeds from 300 kb/s to 239 B/s). I have no such problems from windows. No 3rd party drivers listed either. What can I do? Power management is on, think turning that off would help at all, and how would i do so? or can i up... [06:38] ...the radio power? [06:38] I've tried the askubuntu thing and I could have a minimal panel with gsettings set com.canonical.Unity form-factor 'Desktop' [06:39] Thanks [06:41] running nautilus results in Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported [06:41] aborting... [06:50] can somone help me diagnose sendmail connection refused problems === Lorthirk`ZNC is now known as Lorthirk [06:54] Okay, decided i dont like unity, going for gnome 3 now :D [06:57] Is there any way to rearrange the indicator applets at the top of the screen in Natty? [06:59] BlueLaguna: I don't think so no.. [07:01] thats why i dont like unity.. it cant make it "yours" :) [07:05] is anyone familiar w/ bonding in 11.04's beta? [07:05] i'm having some issues bringing the old configs for /etc/network/interfaces over to 11.04 and getting bonding to startup properly [07:10] Okay, so I 'upgraded' to GNOME 3 as per the instructions on AskUbuntu, restarted, and now my desktop is ugly as hell and the Adwaita theme is nowhere to be found. Does anyone know in which package it's supposed to be? [07:11] andycc: remove gnome-accessibility-themes and install gnome-themes [07:11] not sure if those package names are right :S [07:12] rww, no such luck. I already have gnome-themes installed, and removing gnome-accessibility-themes does nothing. [07:15] hrm, odd. that made it work for me. [07:16] I guess I'll try restarting again. [07:16] * andycc searches for the restart button === Lorthirk is now known as Lorthirk`ZNC [07:25] andycc: Install gnome-themes-standard [07:25] andycc: That's a major catch [07:25] andycc: remove gnome-accessibility-themes [07:26] * cdbs is a GNOME3 PPA developer [07:26] cdbs, okay, will do... [07:28] cdbs, finally, it works! Well, kind of. [07:28] I get the GTK theme, but not the correct window borders. [07:31] Hi, how do I add widgets to the top toolbar in Natty ( Unity ) ? [07:32] Is it possible at all? [07:35] andycc: Set it so in System Settings [07:35] mbn_18: I don't think it's supposed to be possible at least.. [07:35] Okay, logging out and in fixed the window decoration, many thanks to cdbs again! Just one other question, does anyone know what happened to the Cantarell font? [07:35] andycc: I dunno, well, you're welcome. Does GDM theme well now? [07:36] andycc: And, I guess nm-applet still seems out of place [07:36] I see Unity call them app indicators [07:36] mbn_18: Which applet do you need? [07:36] Also found a list on askubuntu.copm but I dont know how to install one of those [07:37] cdbs, GDM is properly themed with Adwaita, but the fonts are horrible. nm-applet looks okay with the ubuntu-mono-dark icon theme. [07:37] I used to have some metrics like networ/cpu/etc... [07:37] andycc: You can change fonts with gnome-tweak-tool, also in the PPA [07:38] cdbs, yes, but the Cantarell font isn't installed, and searching for it in the apt database yields nothing. [07:38] andycc: I use the Ubuntu font with GNOME3, it looks good [07:40] cdbs: ubuntu have gnome3? oO [07:40] !gnome3 [07:40] Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are _experimental_, _unstable_ and may break your system. [07:41] ok i dont want them to break my system ;D [07:41] thanks [07:41] freaky[t]: Its in a PPA, and it works well, its just that you need some spare time, thought, patience and you need to know how to ask for help [07:41] ill stick to gnome classic [07:41] ubuntu classic [07:41] freaky[t]: It works well in my case, but still its *experimental*, and many users have borked up their system with i [07:41] t [07:42] There's also no proper downgrade path, though I managed to downgrade successfully, with some hackin' here and there [07:42] yes i will not use it thank you [07:42] Bah [07:42] my laptop seems to hate linux now [07:43] Logiar: ick it in the nuts [07:43] first it froze on syslinux so i tried unetbootin and it freezes there too [07:44] Logiar: your installing using the USB? [07:44] in syslinux it showed the version number and such then a flashing line but threw no errors [07:44] yeah [07:44] Logiar: the FS of the USB should be FAT32 [07:44] it is [07:45] I had problems installing USB in old comp [07:45] Try CD ? [07:45] I have decided to stay with unity insted of gnome3, but where is all the settings etc. etc. ? Used to be in the top at the left [07:45] vooze: Which settings? [07:45] not possible to use cd [07:46] vooze: check the power button [07:46] vooze: System setting in the shutdown menu afaik [07:46] vooze: You can get Unity configuration options in CCSM [07:46] vooze: for all other options, check the shutdown menu [07:46] ah there it was, thanks guys :) [07:47] We just did a usability test on vooze :) Its a bug: Users not able to find settings [07:47] agree ;) [07:47] well its fine up there, just did not see it ;D [07:47] Logiar: What error it throw? [07:47] I really do hope they reconsider either the menu symbol, or the location of the settings on oo... [07:47] I fear the worst for unity, but so far so good. It does not feel slow nor buggy. [07:47] feared [07:47] mbn_18: as i said, it doesn't [07:48] El_Che: Believe me, it'll be a success [07:48] cdbs, but what do you mean by unity configuration in CCSM? what is CCSM? [07:48] vooze: Install compizconfig-settings-manager package, and start up ccsm by running 'ccsm' on the command lin [07:49] Gaaah.. okay the problem might be with the acpi being wrong and causing a lock when there's a usb device connected === evilmist is now known as mrmist [07:49] vooze: A faster way, install compizconfig-settings-manager first, then type alt+f2, then type about:config and press enter, and that's it [07:49] hrm [07:49] cdbs: I have two worries. The gnome3/unity split, and I wonder how less technical people (read my wife, parents) will handle the interface when they don't memorize keyboard shortcuts [07:50] Logiar: Do you get to the point where you can append text to the boot command? [07:50] El_Che: GNOME3 is even more neckbeard-y :) [07:50] not using syslinux [07:51] El_Che: Unity is simpler, I did a test by giving my laptop to my father for a day, and he liked it very much [07:51] El_Che, i just tryed gnome3, its nothing like gnome2.. i like unity better than gnome3 [07:51] vooze: I feel the same here [07:51] Unity is like a proper transition for gnome2 users [07:51] I haven't had the "need" so far to try gnome3 yet. Weird. Means that unity does wat it should do [07:52] * cdbs dual-boots Ubuntu and Fedora [07:52] i just tryed it 30 mins ago.. and it was not really as user friend as gnome2 [07:52] Nevertheless I find unity annoying without the alt-shift-up keyboard shortcut [07:53] cdbs, is fedore so good? many years since i tryed it [07:53] and it's a little hidden for non technical users (read the will only use the mouse) [07:53]