[02:17] <jjohansen> back on later
[09:16] <ppisati> morning
[09:18] <smb> morning
[09:26] <jjohansen> morning
[09:27] <fairuz> sunny day :)
[12:33] <tjaalton> would it be possible to include all the .ko's from drivers/net to nic-modules-udeb, to prevent bugs like 560249
[12:33] <tjaalton> bug 560249
[12:33] <tjaalton> sigh
[12:34] <tjaalton> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/560249
[12:34] <tjaalton> "ubuntu 10.04 install doesn't provide jme modue for jmicron ethernet"
[12:35] <tjaalton> a friend of mine hit that
[13:36] <smb> tgardner, ogasawara bjf[afk], Just fyi, I just merged back some security team merges/updates to the tracker.
[13:36] <smb> (They got a bit grumpy about it not getting merge-love from our side)
[13:37] <tgardner> smb, ack
[13:39]  * jdstrand sent an email to kernel-sru
[13:40] <jdstrand> not a grumpy one, just something mentioning the issue :)
[14:59]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:20] <tgardner> ogasawara, I've rebased to -rc5. would you like me to push it, or are you already in the middle of it ?
[15:20] <ogasawara> tgardner: jinx, I just pushed it
[15:20] <tgardner> ogasawara, ack, I'll restart my test build :)_
[15:38] <bjf> tgardner, http://www.spinics.net/lists/mm-commits/msg83181.html This indicates that the patch I have requested is the one intended to fix CVE-2011-1017
[15:38] <ubot2> bjf: Heap-based buffer overflow in the ldm_frag_add function in fs/partitions/ldm.c in the Linux kernel 2.6.37.2 and earlier might allow local users to gain privileges or obtain sensitive information via a crafted LDM partition table. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-1017)
[15:42] <tgardner> bjf, you've read my email response from this morning?
[15:43] <tgardner> I think we need both patches
[15:44] <bjf> tgardner, ok, i didn't read it clearly, i thought you were proposing yours, instead of mine, but i see that is no the case
[15:45] <bjf> tgardner, and i agree that we probably need both
[15:46] <tgardner> bjf, ok, erply on email and I'll apply both. same for lucid and hardy?
[15:46] <tgardner> reply*
[15:47] <bjf> tgardner, on it's way
[15:47] <tgardner> bjf, ack
[16:10] <apw> smb, what was the number for the t1.micro bug
[16:10] <smb> apw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ec2/+bug/634487
[16:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 634487 in linux "t1.micro instance hangs when installing java" [High,Confirmed]
[16:22] <smb> apw, That would still be present. Beside of not really understanding the update concept (if I do any update/upgrade with centos 5.0, I ended up being on centos 5.5). Centos 5.0 had locally the disadvantage of locking up and not working well with pv-grub.
[16:24] <smb> And having an domU with 5.5 plus xen 3.0.4, I never see this problem. Of course I have no clue what exactly ec2 has in dom0
[16:29] <apw> smb, is it accurate to say that the issue, is only during install of java on t1.micro, ie it will work in that size once installed ?
[16:30] <smb> apw, I think that was some work-around mentioned. To do the installation and then resize the instance. But I am not completely sure whether nothing would happen later on
[16:31] <apw> smb, thats close enough for my purposes
[16:32] <smb> apw, One sort of interesting point is that at least for Natty it only happens on i386 because on 64bit some post.install step that actually causes the problem is not executed.
[16:50] <JFo> time for some lunch, bbiab
[16:50] <tgardner> sconklin, bjf, jj-afk, ogasawara, apw, smb, sforshee, ppisati, herton: there are still a couple of unreviewed patches on the k-t list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-April/015340.html , https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-April/015371.html. Please take a moment so we can wrap them up.
[16:56] <ogasawara> tgardner: just sent my Acks to the list
[16:57] <tgardner> ogasawara, thanks
[18:17] <hallyn> smb: apw: do you know if the fix to bug 747090 is supposed to be shipped in any natty kernel?
[18:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 747090 in linux "wrong return address sometimes pushed for INT in kvm (not qemu)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747090
[18:18] <hallyn> I ask bc I have completely unscientific 'evidence' (read, i can't explain it any other way) that it also fixes bug 771227
[18:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 771227 in libvirt "Domain save/restore does not work (kvm)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771227
[18:19] <smb> hallyn, Hm, not sure from my memory. I thought this was one fix which may have gone in a rebuild if that was to happen...
[18:20] <ogasawara> the fix is going out in the first kernel SRU, we decided not to do the rebuild
[18:20] <smb> ogasawara, Thanks, I was about to reach the same conclusion from git in a bit. :)
[18:22] <smb> hallyn, So if the question was whether there is any kernel or was it whether there is a released kernel?
[18:22] <hallyn> smb: ogasawara: ok, thanks.
[18:22] <hallyn> it's not in natty-proposed yet right?
[18:23] <hallyn> (I've seen some things go up)
[18:23] <hallyn> to my surprise)
[18:23] <hallyn> I'll just ask him to try the debs attached to the bug
[18:23] <smb> There might be something in pre-poposed of kernel-ppa
[18:25] <hallyn> smb: thx
[18:25] <smb> Don't think there should be any natty-proposed until the royal wedding is over, err we have released
[18:26] <tgardner> hallyn_afk, you can always get tip of master-next for Natty from https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/pre-proposed?field.series_filter=natty
[18:26] <bjf> ogasawara, to have the first natty ready for the next SRU cycle, we want to have it built and ready in the ppa by Friday so we can have it copied out
[18:27] <ogasawara> bjf: ok, I assume you and sconklin are handling that?
[18:27] <bjf> ogasawara, probably
[18:28] <tgardner> bjf, did you note there are 106 2.6.35.y updates in the pipe?
[18:28] <bjf> tgardner, i noticed, yes :-)
[18:48] <tgardner> ogasawara, I've got your oneiric kernel on my emerald up to 325+ load average using 'stress -t 3600 -c ${NP} -i ${NP} -m ${NP} -d ${NP}' while doing a build. I can't get it to swap much though. Looks like its flushed 384k worth to swap and left it at that. NP=80
[18:57] <ogasawara> tgardner: and that's the latest -rc5 rebase?
[18:57] <bjf> ogasawara, i just did a 'maint-startnewrelease' on natty master and it failed
[18:57] <bjf> II: linux-image-2.6.38-8-powerpc64-smp_2.6.38-8.42_ppc64.deb
[18:57] <bjf> II: Downloading to kernel.ubuntu.com ... FAILED!
[18:58] <bjf> ogasawara, does that make sense ?
[18:58] <ogasawara> bjf: hrm, I don't use the maint startnewrelease script, I've always done it manually eg fdr startnewrelease etc
[18:59] <tgardner> ogasawara, yes, -rc5
[19:00] <bjf> ogasawara, how do you pull down the abi files? do you just run maint-getabis ?
[19:01] <ogasawara> bjf: debian/scripts/misc/getabis
[19:01] <ogasawara> bjf: and I run that on zinc since it's faster
[19:02] <ogasawara> bjf: then I'll copy the abi files to my local dev box
[19:02] <tgardner> ogasawara, which is pretty much what I do as well
[19:02] <bjf> maint-startnewrelease does it all in one shot and is pretty nice
[19:03] <bjf> i thought we were all doing things consistently, guess not
[19:04] <tgardner> some of us are still old school
[19:06]  * tgardner --> lunch
[19:09] <ogasawara> bjf: I believe the ppc64 stuff is not officially supported.  apw put the config stuff in our tree for misc testing.
[19:10] <ogasawara> bjf: so the maint-startnewrelease scripts should probably ignore it for now
[19:10] <bjf> ogasawara, i did it your way and it worked, so there must be a bug in that script
[19:19] <bjf> ogasawara, i'm kind of confused now why maint-startnewrelease doesn't just run debian/scripts/misc/getabis and fdr startnewrelease, but whatever
[19:20] <ogasawara> bjf: no idea either
[19:21] <ogasawara> bjf: I can't remember if dapper is different when starting the new release, so maybe it handles that too?
[19:26] <smb> ogasawara, bjf I think I had been adding quirks for dapper in the past
[19:27] <smb> But not sure whether something broke in between
[19:27] <bjf> smb, i've been using it for everything up til now, but it doesn't work for natty, i've not dug into it to see why
[19:28] <smb> bjf, Oh, that is likely to be
[19:28] <smb> There can be things that are sort of declared in the controls but not really built
[19:28] <smb> Then some ignores have to be defined
[19:31] <JFo> stepping away for a few minutes... brb
[19:41] <Anpheus__> Does anyone know why Ubuntu 10.10 Server's minimal virtual install (-virtual kernel) does not contain the Hyper-V guest modules, if it is possible to restore those to that kernel, and most importantly; is this rectified in the next release?
[19:47] <Anpheus__> Someone from #ubuntu-server said they checked their 11.04 pre-release on EC2, installed with the -virtual kernel, and there are no Hyper-V kernel modules.
[19:48] <Anpheus__> There *should* be, because the hv_* modules are *only* useful in a virtual machine.
[19:52] <tgardner> Anpheus__, its not in the -virtual image because its a staging driver.
[19:52] <Anpheus__> ... Go on?
[19:54] <Anpheus__> I don't know what that means, or why that would be relevant.
[19:54] <tgardner> Anpheus__, staging drivers are typically in a state of development, have lots of problems, and as such, we are not really interested in supporting them.
[19:54] <Anpheus__> And?
[19:55] <Anpheus__> There's a ton of stuff in Ubuntu Server, applications, drivers, kernel modules, that is unsupported by Canonical, if that's who you meant by "we".
[19:56] <Anpheus__> You have to manually configure those modules to be enabled, so I don't see the issue.
[19:57] <tgardner> Anpheus__, the virtual image was intended to be relatively small, so we had to make decisions about what modules to include. staging modules didn't make the cut.
[19:58] <Anpheus__> it looks like the entire directory is less than 1MB
[19:59] <Anpheus__> Yep, all five of the modules are just about 256KB uncompressed.
[19:59] <Anpheus__> Or "KiB" if you prefer.
[19:59] <tgardner> Anpheus__, use the server image.
[20:00]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[20:00] <Anpheus__> I did, but I'm wondering why the virtual image, designed to run on VMs, doesn't contain five drivers that are *only* useful on a Redmond based company's hypervisor.
[20:40] <tgardner> bjf, git clone /usr3/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git/ ?
[20:47]  * ogasawara quick lunch
[21:45]  * ogasawara back on later
[22:32] <kamal> fyi folks -- sconklin is offline due to severe weather conditions and loss of A/C power
[22:55] <Kano> apw: can you change the config that 32 bit compiles
[22:55] <Kano> i hate got get only 64 bit packages for .39
[22:56] <Kano> or fix the kernel, does not matter...