[00:01] <patrickmw> bug 760275
[00:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760275 in Ubuntu Natty (and 2 other projects) "simplified chinese has missing label translations for applets (affects: 1) (heat: 471)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760275
[00:03] <bdmurray> patrickmw: indicator-me I think
[00:04] <patrickmw> bdmurray, ah yes.  thanks for checking
[10:01] <skaet> jibel,  we're rebuilding the desktops to pick up the new version of WUBI.    No change to the live file system, so it should just be the WUBI tests that need to be rerun.
[10:02] <jibel> skaet, yes, that's what we were talking about on #u-release.
[10:03] <skaet> jibel, yup.
[10:31] <cjwatson> Ubuntu desktop posted - I've confirmed that the only diffs are dists/natty/Release.gpg (just regenerated, Release stayed the same), .disk/info (timestamp), and wubi.exe
[10:31] <cjwatson> (bug 771517)
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771517 in wubi "Natty Wubi install via ubiquity fails saying no such file or directory found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771517
[10:33] <cjwatson> Kubuntu desktop posted - likewise confirmed
[11:22] <cjwatson> Xubuntu desktop posted (Wubi again)
[11:23] <cjwatson> hopefully that's the last of the respins
[11:23] <cjwatson> sorry for that delayed posting
[12:26] <cjwatson> Ubuntu DVD posted; the changes are partman-auto bug 770041 and the Wubi bugs
[12:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770041 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "partitioner hangs if libparted sees partitions for which device nodes don't exist (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770041
[12:28] <davmor2> cjwatson: I didn't think wubi worked on the dvd as the image is too large did that get fixed?
[12:29] <cjwatson> dunno
[12:29] <cjwatson> the partman-auto bug is important in any event I think
[12:29] <cjwatson> and Kubuntu has the kubuntu-full bug that merits a respin
[13:53] <patdk-wk> hmm
[14:12] <jibel> There are a few builds with still uncovered testcases:
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate amd64+mac/powerpc
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Desktop amd64, mac, powerpc and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap3 and omap4
[14:12] <jibel> Mythbuntu Desktop amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop amd64, amd64+mac, i386
[14:12] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Xubuntu Desktop amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Feel free to pick one and give it a try
[15:10] <cjwatson> Kubuntu DVDs posted: changes are fixed partman-auto, new tzdata, installable kubuntu-full, new Wubi (if that matters)
[15:43] <patrickmw> good morning
[15:43] <patrickmw> or evening :)
[15:46] <highvoltage> hello
[15:47] <patrickmw> hightvoltage, how is edubuntu doing?
[15:48] <highvoltage> pretty much ready to roll!
[15:48] <patrickmw> very nice
[15:49] <highvoltage> (btw topic still mentions 10.04.2 candidate images)
[15:50] <patrickmw> yeah, I saw that.  I'll get that changed
[15:56] <patrickmw> jibel, pedro_, are either of you an op in this channel?  highvoltage pointed out the topic is not accurate :)
[15:56] <pedro_> patrickmw, heh just tried and cannot : -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[15:59] <pedro_> ara might be able to help though :-)
[15:59] <pedro_> ara,  ^
[15:59] <ara> sure
[16:00] <patrickmw> ara, thank you!
[16:01] <pedro_> thanks ara
[16:01] <highvoltage> Go Natty!
[16:01]  * pedro_ doing kubuntu dvd
[16:31] <bdmurray> Is there some iso test I can help with?
[16:32] <patrickmw> Does any one know what the Frontend and Backend Mythbuntu tests are supposed to validate? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5671
[16:33] <bdmurray> patrickmw: Are there different install choices with it?
[16:33] <tgm4883> patrickmw, installation mostly, verify that the backend packages get installed
[16:34] <tgm4883> if you have the hardware, the ability to start the backend would be helpful
[16:34] <patrickmw> tgm4883, I will give it a shot
[16:34] <tgm4883> Because of the nature of MythTV, if you don't have the hardware to test with it gets a little more difficult
[16:38] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I don't have the hardware to test any of the incomplete images on the tracker.  Not sure if that's the same case with you
[16:40] <bdmurray> if its all powerpc, mac, and arm then I don't either
[16:45] <patrickmw> bdmurray, If I install Natty and I select simplified Chinese when it prompts for your language, will the language pack get fully installed before the user logs in?
[16:45] <patrickmw> Or does the user still have install the pack using lang support?
[16:46] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I'm not clear on that works
[16:47] <davmor2> patrickmw: you're best bet is to ask cjwatson or ev
[16:48] <patrickmw> davmor2, thanks
[16:58] <jibel> patrickmw, langpack for zh-hans in on the cd, your session should be localized from the start
[16:58] <patrickmw> jibel, yeah, that's what I thought
[17:47] <charlie-tca> QA meeting in #ubuntu-quality in 15 minutes.
[17:58] <vladimir33> Hi all! Can someone help me? I was testing ubuntu 11.04 beta 2 when unexpected problem appeared, system tried to send a bug report , but unfortunately I didn't have internet access, so it failed to file a bug. is it possible just to save a report and / or take it out from some folder and send it manually?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> vladimir33: you can use the procedure herre - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20when%20off-line
[18:07] <vladimir33> thanks. i've read it already, but how about if you don't know about a reason. it was said something about a modprobe problem. then i managed to find a file like 'sbin???modprobe???'. but i was allowed to open it and investigate it.
[18:08] <vladimir33> and it doesn't happen twice. resuming after suspend test that bug didn't appear again.
[18:15] <charlie-tca> I would wait to see if it shows up again, and if not, count it as a one time fail and not report it
[18:17] <vladimir33> ok. i'll check it.
[18:18] <njin> hello, can someone look why the tracker show yesterday tests ? (for ubuntu amd64)
[18:20] <jibel> njin, because we respun the images without a rebuild of the livefs to ship a new version of wubi. excepted wubi, all the other tests are still valid
[18:21] <njin> jibel: hello dear, today i've started a11y install and it seems going well, at now, i can't understand
[18:40] <charlie-tca> zsyncing mythbuntu
[18:41] <charlie-tca> njin: If it works, we are happy
[18:42] <njin> charlie-tca: i'm worry, missed, one day works other no
[18:43] <charlie-tca> Yeah, sometimes it goes that way. It might depend on the day, or what is already there, I don't know.
[18:43] <njin> i'll go to test on another hardware hoping it still working
[18:43] <charlie-tca> I will settle for 50% working on that
[18:49] <jibel> charlie-tca, mythbuntu tests have already been done, just the tracker need an update.
[18:49] <jibel> doing it now
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Thanks, jibel
[18:50] <jibel> patrickmw, ^
[18:50] <njin> jibel: ayy install goes well on the first pc, but yesterday it wasn't working, what i've to do ?
[18:50] <njin> ayy/a11y
[18:51] <jibel> is it the problem with the sound being muted ?
[18:52] <jibel> njin, ^
[18:53] <njin> lloking for bug number
[18:53] <jibel> one of the problem with a11y is the reliability of at-spi
[18:53] <njin> jibel: bug 769591
[18:53] <jibel> when it get stuck, simply kill at-spi-registryd, it will respawn automatically and will 'fix' the problem in most of the caes
[18:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769591 in at-spi (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "many screen reader hangs and buffering during a11y installation (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769591
[18:53] <jibel> cases
[18:54] <jibel> yeah, what I said above.
[18:54] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:54] <njin> ok, thanks
[18:55] <jibel> njin, should be better in Oneiric with at-spi2
[18:55] <njin> Great
[18:56] <njin> well, i'm going to test on this machine, see you later
[18:56]  * jibel -> dinner
[19:48] <njin> well, a11y installation is ok on two different machines!!! but on one orca don't read apport popup
[19:53] <chadadavis> I see the tracker was not reset after the last rebuild of desktop (today). Is that intentional?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> chadadavis: yes, the only change was to Wubi
[19:54] <chadadavis> charlie-tca, great. Thank you.
[19:55] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:30] <patrickmw> jibel, ping
[20:30] <txomon> hi jibel, can we review the bug 765664
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765664 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz not working after upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765664
[20:31] <jibel> patrickmw, pong
[20:31] <jibel> txomon, sure
[20:32] <patrickmw> jibel, it appears we have limited hardware to test the remaining ISOs. Other than testing images, is there something people can do to help?
[20:33] <jibel> patrickmw, yeah but triage is a great activity as well.
[20:33] <txomon> I upgraded Ubuntu, just as the iso testing guide says, and only with that, (nothing touched), the tab for special effects dissapeared
[20:33] <txomon> patrickmw: I cant test i386 and 64
[20:33] <txomon> is there any critical image?
[20:34] <patrickmw> jibel, could you please post the link to the ISO testing bugs? ;)
[20:34] <jibel> patrickmw, and also very important is sru verification
[20:34]  * patdk-wk still would love to know why his iscsi isn't working :)
[20:34] <jibel> there is a list of pending sru here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[20:35] <jibel> patrickmw, SRUs in natty-proposed can already be tested with the current candidates
[20:36] <jibel> txomon, I thought I added a comment after your reply to the bug report but apparently I didn't.
[20:37] <jibel> txomon, you can configure compiz with ccsm, is it installed on your system ?
[20:37] <txomon> nope...
[20:37] <txomon> im going to upgrade another 64x computer
[20:37] <txomon> and I hope it works for this one now
[20:38] <jibel> txomon, then when you click on the top right power button there is an item 'system settings' in the menu
[20:38] <jibel> and in the system settings there is a CompizConfig setting manager or something approaching.
[20:39] <txomon> ok
[20:40] <jibel> patrickmw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=iso-testing+natty&field.tags_combinator=ALL&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.
[20:40] <jibel> used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[20:40] <jibel> :-)
[20:40] <jibel> sorry
[20:40] <txomon> xD
[20:41] <jibel> in lp it means new/undecided in Ubuntu with tags iso-testing and natty
[20:41] <txomon> jibel: is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 directly to 11.04?
[20:41] <patdk-wk> sure
[20:41] <patdk-wk> supported? nope
[20:41] <jibel> txomon, no, you can upgrade from LTS to LTS or N to N+1
[20:41] <txomon> oki
[20:44] <jibel> patdk-wk, can your iscsi setup be created with VMs only ? I can try to replicate it but my knowledge of iscsi setup is close to void.
[20:57] <txomon> ubuntu 11.04 is going to be released in 2 hrs?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu 11.04 will be released on April 28, normally before the end of the day UTC timezone
[21:03] <txomon> so there is no official hour?
[21:26] <Patrickdk> jibel, I would assume so
[21:27] <Patrickdk> one vm with dhcp + tftp + iscsitarget
[21:28] <Patrickdk> and the other just an plain blank install
[21:28] <Patrickdk> I need to test it out here sometime, if I have a moment
[21:36] <Patrickdk> ok, downloading iso
[21:36] <Patrickdk> will be able to test later tonight I hope
[23:19] <cjwatson> jibel: so, our fix for bug 771517 has been checked out OK by Erick.  Are you OK with me posting that new version to the tracker?
[23:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771517 in wubi "Natty Wubi install via ubiquity fails saying no such file or directory found (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771517
[23:24] <jibel> cjwatson, that's good news, go ahead and post it to the tracker.
[23:24] <cjwatson> ok, great
[23:25] <skaet> :)
[23:25] <jibel> I repartition a system again to be able to test it.
[23:26] <jibel> that's great to change the system configuration to fit the software requirements ;-)
[23:31] <cjwatson> pposted
[23:31] <cjwatson> *posted (argh, keyboard)
[23:32] <cjwatson> please carry over old tests as appropriate
[23:38] <pace_t_zulu> i'm testing the "Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac (20110427)" iso ... doing the live session test case... and i get the message "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" ... anyone have any ideas
[23:38] <pace_t_zulu> the hardware is MacBook Pro 8,2 (Thunderbolt)
[23:43] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu, is this the first ISO from natty that you've tested?
[23:43] <chadadavis> I mean, did you have this problem with the beta as well?
[23:45] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: first live iso test i've done with natty
[23:46] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: been running natty in a VM since the toolchain rolled out last fall
[23:46] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: plus this is new hardware... with the added twist of the +mac iso
[23:48] <chadadavis> I've been testing on a MBP6,2 but haven't had a problem starting the live CD.
[23:50] <chadadavis> Do you get the same thing with e.g. kbuntu or the alternate CD ?
[23:50] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu : ^
[23:51] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: only tried natty-desktop-amd64+mac.iso so far
[23:51] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: you think natty-desktop-amd64.iso may be better?
[23:53] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu, I can tell you that doesn't boot a MBP6,2. I'd be surprised if it boots your 8,2
[23:54] <chadadavis> But I don't know what changes may have been made. Maybe it's worth a try, as long as the Mac ISO is not booting for you. Did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded ISO, just to be sure.
[23:54] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: which one... the standard iso or the +mac iso?
[23:55] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: i will verify now
[23:55] <chadadavis> My MBP6,2 will only boot with the Mac ISO, it does not boot with the amd64 iso.
[23:55] <chadadavis> But, you can try it with the other ISO. Though, I'll be surprised if it boots.
[23:56] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: funny story... new iso just landed
[23:57] <pace_t_zulu> 20110427.1 just landed
[23:58] <chadadavis> I don't believe the Mac ISO has changed, my timestamp is the same as the previous.
[23:59] <cjwatson> jibel: can you let tiaz know when Ubuntu desktop amd64/i386 testing is complete, so that he can deal with CDN mirroring of the release images?