[01:22] <waltman> there are several in center city, including a couple in suburban station
[01:22] <JonathanD> Theres one in norristown now.
[01:22] <JonathanD> they're popping up everywhere.
[01:23] <JonathanD> We need one in bridgeport.
[01:23] <pleia2> not everywhere :(
[01:23] <JonathanD> So I can walk to it.
[01:23] <waltman> and one in paoli
[01:23] <JonathanD> pleia2: stock up in July?
[01:23] <pleia2> that and dunkin donuts coffee
[01:23] <waltman> pleia2: yeah, but you can walk across the street to a chipotle with a liquor license :)
[01:24] <pleia2> true
[01:25] <pleia2> I never buy any there though because it's all boring
[01:25] <pleia2> coronas and strange premixed margaritas
[01:25] <JonathanD> mmm chipotle
[01:25] <JonathanD> pleia2: you can only carry 3 oz of DD back on the plane :(
[01:25] <JonathanD> or whatever it is.
[01:26] <pleia2> nah, ground stuff for my coffee maker!
[01:26]  * pleia2 has 1.5 bags left
[01:33] <andrew> Good thing you can buy more online: https://shop.dunkindonuts.com/shoponline/Category.aspx?CategoryId=COFF
[01:34] <pleia2> shipping is killer
[01:34] <pleia2> can actually get it at safeway too, but it's not the same..
[01:35] <andrew> pleia2: Then go with amazon? http://www.amazon.com/Dunkin-Donuts-Original-Medium-Resealable/dp/B001I19IDA
[01:35] <pleia2> sshh, you're ruining my excuses to go back to philly
[01:35] <andrew> pleia2: You were just in philly a week ago
[01:35] <pleia2> it was raining
[01:36] <andrew> so?
[01:36] <PennBot> Somebody said so is it normal behavior for empathy that when you fill the line you're typing in it makes the window bigger instead of going to a new line, andrew
[01:36] <pleia2> and no time between planes to get coffee (I actually had planned on it)
[01:36] <andrew> excuses
[01:59] <andrew> pleia2: http://lookoutpartyevent.eventbrite.com/
[01:59] <PennBot> Title: Party your apps off with Lookout @ Google I/O - Eventbrite (at lookoutpartyevent.eventbrite.com)
[02:00] <pleia2> andrew: I'll be in the wrong country during google i/o
[02:00] <andrew> too bad
[02:00] <andrew> ubuntu stuff?
[02:00] <pleia2> I live right by there though
[02:00] <pleia2> yeah, ubuntu developer summit in budapest
[02:00] <andrew> hmmm budapest
[02:01] <andrew> my boss was in Budapest a few months ago for work
[02:02] <pleia2> I snagged some folks from ubuntu-hu to give us tours :)
[02:02] <pleia2> meeting up with some of them sunday afternoon when I arrive to do some daytime stuff
[02:02] <andrew> first time there?
[02:02] <andrew> hrm, flyers are up 3-0
[02:02] <andrew> they best not mess things up
[02:03] <pleia2> yeah, and only my 4th time to europe (england, belgium, ireland)
[02:04] <pleia2> sheesh, look at me, 3 years ago I'd never even been out of the US :)
[02:04] <andrew> my visits to europe can be represented with an empty set
[02:04] <pleia2> europe doesn't have enough cheese or water pressure in showers
[02:05] <JonathanD> or cheese in showers.
[02:05] <pleia2> cheese should never be in showers
[02:05] <andrew> should showers be in cheese?
[02:05] <JonathanD> it's raining cheese.
[02:06] <JonathanD> hallelujah
[02:06] <pleia2> when I came home from 2 weeks in england I bought a GIANT cheesy pizza
[02:06] <pleia2> it was nice
[02:06] <JonathanD> They always brag about how good their cheese is.
[02:06] <JonathanD> and how crumby ours is.
[02:06] <JonathanD> Perhaps this is because there isn't any.
[02:06] <andrew> did they forget to melt ours?
[02:07] <pleia2> yeah, ours needs to be melted and put on everything
[02:07] <JonathanD> I had a nice piece of NY chedder on saturday.
[02:07] <JonathanD> we cut it in slices, it was yum.
[02:07] <rmg51> cheese-whiz ;-)
[02:08] <andrew> We even put cheese on our steak!
[02:08] <pleia2> mm cheesesteak wit whiz
[02:09] <andrew> I'm pretty sure that statement is shortened to "wit"
[02:09] <pleia2> but what about the onions?
[02:09] <pleia2> I do not want onions
[02:10] <andrew> hrm, dunno
[02:10]  * andrew avoids the city as much as humanly possible
[03:45] <waltman> no, no, no.
[03:45] <waltman> wid/wid-out refers to *onions*, not cheese.
[03:46] <waltman> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kukulu21/544769983/
[03:46] <PennBot> Title: How to Order a Cheesesteak - Pat's Steaks | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
[03:47] <ChinnoDog> peeps need directions?
[03:47] <waltman> Interestingly, it does say "wit" there, but I'm pretty sure the true Philly accent is more "wid" than "wit"
[03:48] <waltman> ChinnoDog: This is only at pretentious places like Pat's.  Anywhere else you can order in normal English, and they won't have whiz.
[03:48] <pleia2> the cheesesteak place here has whiz, is goooood
[03:49] <pleia2> jakessteaks.net yum yum
[03:49] <waltman> There are 1000s of places to buy cheesesteaks in the Philadelphia area, but I'm guessing less than 10 have whiz.
[03:49] <ChinnoDog> whiz?
[03:49] <andrew> ...
[03:49] <pleia2> cheese whiz
[03:50] <andrew> (did he ask what I think he asked?)
[03:50] <pleia2> lol
[03:50] <pleia2> he's not from around here
[03:50] <ChinnoDog> Why would you put cheese whiz on a cheese steak?
[03:50] <pleia2> oh dear
[03:50] <andrew> define 'here' since you are currently thousands of miles from where i am
[03:50] <pleia2> andrew: philly!
[03:51] <pleia2> I am there in spirit while talking about cheesesteaks
[03:51] <pleia2> except for the jakes steaks thing, that's my little philly enclave in sf
[03:51] <pleia2> their whole wall is a photo of boathouse row
[03:52] <pleia2> and they haz Tastykakes
[03:52] <andrew> for now
[03:52] <waltman> ChinnoDog: You wouldn't. You'd put American or Provolone.
[03:54] <ChinnoDog> So why would a nice cheesteak place have whiz?
[03:55] <pleia2> it's traditional
[03:55] <waltman> it's traditional at like 3 places.
[03:55] <ChinnoDog> lol
[03:56] <pleia2> 3 famous places!
[03:56] <waltman> yeah, yeah
[03:56] <ChinnoDog> I'll take one with swiss, and wid
[03:56] <ChinnoDog> No whiz
[03:56] <waltman> no, swiss isn't an option
[03:56] <ChinnoDog> It isn't?
[03:57] <pleia2> nope, american or provolone
[03:57] <waltman> The traditional options are American (the default), provolone, or mozzarella if you want a pizza steak.
[03:57] <pleia2> I actually prefer chicken cheesesteaks w/ american cheese
[03:57] <ChinnoDog> Maybe I used to get them with provolone then
[03:57] <ChinnoDog> I was never into American
[03:57] <waltman> yeah, provolone's just a better, tastier cheese
[03:58]  * pleia2 gnaws on matzah
[03:58] <pleia2> i want breeeeaaad
[03:58] <ChinnoDog> Poor pleia2
[03:58] <waltman> andrew: You ever go to the Peppermille?
[03:58] <waltman> s/e$//
[03:58] <ChinnoDog> Someone fedex a cheese steak to pleia2
[03:58] <pleia2> the ones from jake's are fine
[03:58] <andrew> the peppermill? you mean "Pepper Mill"?
[03:58] <pleia2> but it's across town
[03:59] <waltman> Oh, is it 2 words?  Yeah, the place at 352 and Paoli Pike.
[03:59] <ChinnoDog> Boyfriends are often useful for tasks such as this.
[03:59] <andrew> waltman: http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=pepper+mill&fb=1&gl=us&hq=pepper+mill&hnear=West+Chester,+PA&cid=0,0,4670750492335660779&ei=c4a3Tbm5MILBtgeUkoXfBA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=9&ved=0CKcBEJ8CMAg
[03:59] <PennBot> Title: Google Maps (at maps.google.com)
[03:59] <pleia2> he's even further away than the cheesesteaks!
[03:59] <andrew> yes, plenty of times, but generally for strombolies
[03:59] <andrew> never had a cheesesteak there
[03:59] <waltman> Everything's great there.
[04:00] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: does that mean the cheese steaks are on his way home?
[04:00] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: unfortunately not
[04:00] <waltman> We used to go there a lot when I was working at QVC. My favorite was the South of the Border Chicken Cheesesteak.
[04:00] <andrew> waltman: you used to work at qvc?
[04:00] <pleia2> he was a model
[04:01] <andrew> lulz
[04:01] <waltman> Yep, for most of the 90s
[04:01] <andrew> most of the 90s?
[04:02] <andrew> what year did they open that location up?
[04:02] <waltman> 1986, I think.
[04:02] <andrew> hrm
[04:02] <waltman> I started in 1990, and it was already several years old then.
[04:03] <andrew> in the same building they are in now?
[04:04] <waltman> I started at 1365 Enterprise Drive. I think they still have some office space there, but in the mid 90s they moved most of their operations to the place on Airport Rd.
[04:05] <andrew> I remember when they opened the airport rd location (vaguely)
[04:05] <waltman> Yeah, it was a big deal.  That used to be where Commodore was located.
[04:05] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: When I lived in Jersey I had a short list of cheesteak delivery places. I guess you don't have those...
[04:06] <andrew> uh-oh, delta plane made emergancy landing at phl, reports of smoke in cockpit
[04:06] <pleia2> jake's is run by philly natives, they do it wrong at other places
[04:06] <waltman> ChinnoDog: now she's got a *very* short list :)
[04:07] <pleia2> they do delivery, but not this far out from where they are
[04:07]  * waltman now has a strange craving for a cheesesteak 
[04:07] <pleia2> hehe
[04:08] <ChinnoDog> Offer them a few extra bucks!
[04:09] <waltman> ChinnoDog: steaks only travel well up to a certain short distance from the grill.
[04:10] <ChinnoDog> If only there was a cheese steak stand on wheels you could call up.
[04:11] <waltman> ChinnoDog: We've got cheesteak trucks all over the place around Drexel and Penn :)
[04:12] <ChinnoDog> Well tell one of them to drive to SF for a cheese steak emergency
[04:13] <waltman> pleia2: do you have a bear light to bring to the release party on thursday?
[04:13] <pleia2> waltman: it would be red all the time!
[04:14] <waltman> exactly!
[04:15] <pleia2> I wish they had better food, they do tapas, which to them means tiny sf-food appetizers that cost $12 each
[04:17] <pleia2> sf-food == fancy, usually somewhat healthy, fuzion food
[04:18]  * pleia2 likes proper brewpub pub food
[04:18] <pleia2> like sly fox, man I loved sly fox
[04:18] <pleia2> fox > bear
[04:35] <waltman> and sourdough.
[11:15] <JonathanD> Morning PA
[11:26] <rmg51> morning JonathanD o/
[11:31] <JonathanD> heya
[14:28] <InHisName> Good Morning rmg51 and JonathanD
[14:28] <InHisName> .... and to anyone else already awake.
[14:38] <teddy-dbear> I am ;-)
[14:42] <JonathanD> morning InHisName
[15:27] <InHisName> There appears to be a whole slew of web sites 'predicting' the Judgement Day to be May 21, 2011.   And I thought everyone was fixated on 2012 due to the Mayans being so smart with calendars ?
[15:31] <jedijf> InHisName: i saw a billboard yesterday on rt 70 in the pinelands
[15:41] <InHisName> Funny about that,  God said long ago even JESUS doesn't now when......
[15:42] <InHisName> I suspect that on May 21 he will NOT end the world, just because so many are expecting it. (its supposed to be a big surprise)
[15:44] <teddy-dbear> tell me all about May 22nd :-/
[15:49] <InHisName> teddy-dbear: its a Sunday, you are invited to attend my church as I expect most of us will still be around exept for car accidents, disasters, etc.  1/2 mile up Valley Rd from Street Road in Warrington, PA
[15:50] <InHisName> The instigator wrote a book called 1994?  that called that the end.  Ha!
[15:55]  * teddy-dbear belongs to St. Mattress :-D
[16:01] <InHisName> I doubt it, teddy-dbear
[16:02] <InHisName> More like evil devil Chocolate is your idol
[16:17] <teddy-dbear> nothing evil about chocolate
[16:45] <waltman> I'm planning on enjoying some of this on May 21 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fin_du_Monde_(beer)
[16:46] <waltman> perhaps some of this, too -- http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/33
[16:46] <PennBot> Title: Maudite - Unibroue - Chambly, QC, Canada - BeerAdvocate (at beeradvocate.com)
[16:49] <InHisName> waltman: hopefully it is just a short walk from your home.  Ne sense in colliding with the crazed 'near' christians driving insanely on that day.
[20:23] <ChinnoDog> hi freelancer317
[20:25] <freelancer317> Hiya ChinnoDog... How've you been?
[20:26] <ChinnoDog> Been fine. Busy.
[20:26] <ChinnoDog> Need more release parties for distraction
[20:26] <freelancer317> Yea. That would be great.
[20:27] <ssweeny> ChinnoDog, want to throw an ubu release party in pittsburgh?
[20:27] <ssweeny> i'd love to do it but i'm busy
[20:27] <ChinnoDog> haha
[20:27] <ChinnoDog> That venue is not very convenient for me
[20:28] <ssweeny> ChinnoDog, not everything is about you
[20:28] <ssweeny> you're depriving the poor people of pittsburgh of a party
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> Are we going to play the zombie game?
[20:28] <teddy-dbear> what about Philly?
[20:29] <ssweeny> i'll bring the zombie game to the party if you want
[20:29] <ssweeny> it's lots of fun
[20:29] <ssweeny> we can pretend the zombies are mac users
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> The release party happens near the person who is willing to plan it. haha
[20:29] <pleia2> you are all welcome to come to thirsty bear in san francisco
[20:29] <pleia2> jono bacon will be there!
[20:30] <andrew> beer, and bacon!
[20:30] <ssweeny> will he be signing t-shirts?
[20:30] <pleia2> yes, I'll bring a sharpie
[20:30] <freelancer317> pleia2 who cares about jono... will you be there?  lol
[20:30] <pleia2> freelancer317: yep!
[20:31] <ssweeny> man, who knew planning a trip to europe two weeks out would be so stressful? :)
[20:31] <pleia2> I'm sure I'll be budapest-freaking-out soon
[20:31] <pleia2> I am not very ready
[20:32] <ssweeny> my problem is i'm leaving for that trip from another trip so i have to plan twice as hard
[20:32] <pleia2> my weekends in may: fly to budapest, fly from budapest, fly to and from miami, fly to and from edmonton
[20:33] <ssweeny> sounds like fun
[20:33] <ChinnoDog> Is mrs_sweeny going to budapest?
[20:33] <pleia2> june: stay home and sleep
[20:33] <ssweeny> mrs_ssweeny will sadly not be joining me.
[20:33] <JonathanD> SLeeping for a month?
[20:33] <ssweeny> she'll likely be leaving for brazil just as i get back
[20:33] <pleia2> I'll need it!
[20:33] <JonathanD> As long as you're sleeping a whole month, you should stop here on the way back from edmonton... so you can go camping.
[20:34] <JonathanD> Since you'd only be sleeping otherwise, anyway :P
[20:37] <freelancer317> JonathanD How've you been?
[20:38] <JonathanD> I've been good.
[20:38] <JonathanD> busy planning fosscon :D
[20:38] <freelancer317> How's it coming?
[20:40] <JonathanD> Coming along.
[20:41] <JonathanD> It's in Philly this year.
[20:41] <JonathanD> July.
[20:45] <freelancer317> That sounds awesome!  Who many people do you think that it will draw?
[20:45] <freelancer317> attendee wise?
[20:51] <JonathanD> We had about 100 last year, this year is in a more accesible space, so at least that...
[20:52] <JonathanD> shooting for 150
[20:54] <freelancer317> I'll have to clear it with my wife, but hope to make it down there.  Where will it be?  Better to drive to take train?
[20:54] <JonathanD> it's walkable from market east.
[20:55] <JonathanD> Depends on what else you want to do, I suppose.
[20:55] <pleia2> we probably won't even be renting a car (airport to city, then public transit or zipcar if absolutely required for sunday thing)
[20:56] <JonathanD> Theres no need to drive to basekamp, I don't think. So it's really a question of do you want to drive anywhere else.
[20:56] <pleia2> yeah
[20:57] <JonathanD> theres plenty else within walking distance too
[20:57]  * pleia2 nods
[20:59] <andrew> Wait... is pleia2 coming to fosscon this year?
[20:59] <pleia2> si
[20:59] <JonathanD> andrew: pleia2 is keynoting
[21:00] <JonathanD> I'm finishing up the email to plug right now.
[21:00] <freelancer317> JonathanD did you get in touch with CPLUG?
[21:01] <JonathanD> Yeah.
[21:01] <JonathanD> occasionally, anyway :p
[21:01] <JonathanD> flyers will be handed out there.
[21:02] <freelancer317> I haven't been able to make most of their meetings due to tball being every darned Tues...
[21:02] <JonathanD> On that note... there needs to be a ubuntu pa table, I think.
[21:02] <JonathanD> I'm certainly not going to have time to do one.
[21:03] <JonathanD> freelancer317: you're central PA, iirc?
[21:03] <JonathanD> closer to cplug?
[21:03] <freelancer317> yep
[21:04] <freelancer317> I'm in Harrisburg
[21:04] <JonathanD> Right.
[21:05] <freelancer317> If my schedule works out, I may be able to help for the table down there.
[21:06] <freelancer317> I'll see if I can wrangle up some conference stuff
[21:06] <freelancer317> Regardless\
[21:06] <pleia2> requests for natty CDs can be submitted already
[21:07] <pleia2> https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/
[21:07] <PennBot> Title: Local Community (LoCo) CD request (at forms.canonical.com)
[21:07] <freelancer317> k
[21:07] <freelancer317> thanks
[21:12] <freelancer317> Requested