[01:30] <vychune> everyone ok?
[01:41] <pace_t_zulu> vychune: ok here... you?
[01:42] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i see you're back home
[01:42] <vychune> good playing word gags in #midsouthmakers
[01:46] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: yes powersupply or MB out in server
[01:47] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: wait what?
[01:48] <vychune> same ?
[01:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: so the server is down - hardware issue ...
[01:55] <vychune> o/
[01:58] <wrst_> yeah pace_t_zulu
[02:00] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: sorry to hear that... wrst did you just reroute your quassel port to your desktop?
[02:01] <wrst> just moved the hard drive to my desktop now to figure out what is wrong
[02:02] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I use my server much more than my desktop anyway
[02:04] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I will never speak of uptime again :)
[02:04] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i know, i feel bad... almost like i jinxed it
[02:06] <vychune> LOL
[02:08] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: ha ha
[02:09] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: the MB appears to be getting power but the powersupply fan is locked up and smells pretty bad I'm thinking power supply?
[02:09] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: sounds like a reasonable place to start
[02:11] <wrst> and I get no video of course that could be the MB but if the fan is locked its done anyway
[02:30] <Juzzy> any of you guys by chance remember an old website going around about 8-10 yrs ago, something like "high impact moves" some little chinaman jumping/climbing/scaling walls, balconies, all kinds of crazy acrobatics out on the street?
[02:31] <vychune> free running ya mean?
[02:33] <Juzzy> maybe ;/
[02:51] <vychune> serach for that
[02:56] <Juzzy> ya thx
[02:59] <vychune> np
[03:20] <cyberanger> wrst: issues?
[03:20] <wrst> yes cyberanger :)
[03:31] <wrst> cyberanger: powersupply i think on my server
[03:33] <cyberanger> wrst: well, power supply is easy
[03:33] <cyberanger> in comparison to the desktop
[03:33] <cyberanger> which I think is what I read there
[03:34] <wrst> yes pretty sure that is it, the MB does still have a LED on but the fan on the power supply is locked up
[03:34] <wrst> so i put my HDD from the server in my desktop and am running a little hybrid system now
[03:39] <cyberanger> wrst: by hybrid you mean irssi, elinks & mutt?
[03:40] <wrst> haha no just moved my server HDD into my desktop :)
[03:41] <cyberanger> with irssi, elinks & mutt ;-)
[03:41] <cyberanger> as long as the hdd is good
[03:41] <cyberanger> what's your psu
[03:42] <cyberanger> something fairly cheap
[03:44] <cyberanger> I mean, cheap to replace, not a high end one
[03:47] <wrst> yeah a 250 watt micro atx one
[03:47] <wrst> i have an atom server
[04:04] <cyberanger> well, that's not too costly, not as cheap as an atx though
[04:04] <cyberanger> it's the server ones that really hurt
[04:17] <wrst> oh yes
[04:17] <wrst> about 20-30 bucks it seems
[15:17] <wrst> cyberanger1: you ok?
[15:17] <wrst> :)
[15:40] <Xpistos> Sup!
[17:26] <vychune> hey everyone ok so far?
[17:26] <Dan9186> can anyone tell me what the number is that "echo ${$}" spits out?
[18:16] <Xpistos> okay so what is the verdict? Do I install 11.04 tomorrow or do I go with 10.10?
[18:17] <wrst> 11.04
[18:17] <wrst> Xpistos: that's my thought if you are ok with Unity
[18:18] <wrst> or just use the "classic" desktop
[18:18] <wrst> and Xpistos if you get a daily download you will practically have the release
[18:20] <Xpistos> I will wait until tomorrow
[18:20] <Xpistos> If i don't like unity can I get back to gnome 2
[18:21] <Xpistos> although I will probably go with xfce if I don't like unity
[18:21] <Xpistos> cause I don't use my normal desktop anyway
[18:21] <Xpistos> I kill all the panels and use awn
[18:22] <wrst> I don't know what I will do since Gnome 3 doesn't work well on it, i'm not a fan of Unity and just not going to use it when there is a much better option out there
[18:23] <Xpistos> what?
[18:23] <wrst> probably on ubuntu installs I may go with kubuntu
[18:23] <Xpistos> AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[18:23] <Xpistos> I had kde
[18:23] <Xpistos> I hate kde rather
[18:23] <wrst> Gnome 3 on ubuntu, doesn't work well
[18:23] <wrst> 4.6 is pretty good Xpistos, and gnome shell i think is very good unity is a distant 3-5th place at best
[18:23] <Xpistos> I would use fluxbox in a heartbeat but I can't get my wireless working on it
[18:24] <Xpistos> I love fluxbox and IceWM
[18:32] <wrst> Xpistos: probably just need network manager applet running to get wireless going, or that's how i do it
[18:33] <pace_t_zulu> kubuntu is solid in a VM as well without 3d drivers
[18:34] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: they have really done some good things in kde 4.6
[18:34] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i haven't been using the 4.x line of kde so much till now
[18:34] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: what significant advances happened between 4.5 and 4.6?
[18:34] <wrst> well IMO it was pretty crappy in the early go of things but has matured nicely
[18:35] <wrst> stability pace_t_zulu, lots of stability
[18:35] <wrst> that has always been my complaint with the 4.x kde
[18:35] <wrst> its still not as stable as gnome 2.3
[18:35] <wrst> but its very useable
[18:35] <wrst> thats one reason I'm so excited about Gnome 3 is that its very stable right now
[18:38] <Xpistos> well let me load it up in my vm
[18:39] <Xpistos> Are you guys ok?
[18:41] <wrst> yep still hanging on here Xpistos, you guys getting the weather too i'm sure?
[18:42] <Xpistos> not so much down here
[18:42] <Xpistos> what is the kde install kubuntu-desktop?
[18:44] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you know if i can upgrade an ubuntu kernel without restarting?
[18:46] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: to be honest I didn't know you could upgrade the kernel on anything without restarting, I know after the upgrade it always tells you restart required
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> i remember hearing about some splice technology
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: on the subject of uptime...
[18:57] <wrst> wb pace_t_zulu hey atlest you don't need parts ;)
[19:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you work out what parts you need?
[19:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you know... a micro tier cloud deployment may be less expensive than any new part ;)
[19:03] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I looked at that actually :)
[19:03] <wrst> power supply was 20 bucks  but a whole new thing was not a lot more
[19:04] <wrst> but, won't have to fool with all of it
[19:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: so you going to replace the machine?
[19:13] <wrst> nah just the power supply the machine is great
[19:13] <wrst> 20 bucks from new egg
[20:10] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: good deal
[20:10] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: 11.04 for sure
[20:10] <wrst> yeah the case was like 50 or 60 bucks with the power supply
[20:10] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: only reason to go for an older release is LTS
[20:11] <wrst> pace_t_zulu, Xpistos only warning i would have is if you have broadcom wireless at last time I tried they are still broken
[20:11] <Xpistos> that is what I have
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: on natty?
[20:11] <wrst> yes
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: they should have broadcom fixed for final... wrst when did you last try
[20:12] <wrst> the bcmw kernel modules are broken, but the old version works so every update you have to reinstall the old ones
[20:12] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: its been a week or so
[20:12] <wrst> i would think surely they would have that fixed
[20:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: that's pretty weak
[20:12] <pace_t_zulu> pardon the pun
[20:12] <wrst> :) pace_t_zulu
[20:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: that should have been fixed before beta
[20:12] <wrst> yeah i agree pace_t_zulu
[20:13] <wrst> and pace_t_zulu a little looking may just be a 64bit issue now
[20:13] <wrst> hello neiliob1973
[20:14] <neiliob1973> hi! I'm in Johnson City, TN....WOOT!
[20:14] <neiliob1973> anyone know much about webcams?
[20:14] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i suppose 64bit is is a bit excusable...
[20:15] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: yeah i won't use it on the final release as my laptop just has 2GB of RAM i will however use it on my desktop
[20:15] <wrst> woot my network is back running!
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: which network?
[20:16] <wrst_> neiliob1973: what are you needing on webcams?
[20:16] <wrst_> pace_t_zulu: i mena my internet pace_t_zulu :)
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> hi neiliob1973
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: i use webcams :)
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: your home connection?
[20:17] <wrst> yes pace_t_zulu
[20:17] <neiliob1973> just got a Logitech 9000 pro....works fine in Win7.... in ubuntu 10.10 works fine in Cheese, WebCamStudio, and Skype, but when I try streaming on Livestream or UStream, the video quality TANKS! Any ideas?
[20:18] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you should use SASL ... that way your cloak is on before you join the room
[20:19] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: SASL authentication to freenode that is
[20:19] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: you tried streaming on Livestream or UStream on win7 ? excuse my ignorance on windows and linux webcam software ...
[20:20] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: SASL? you say I shall google :)
[20:21] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys... anyone interested in doing last minute tests on Natty should feel encouraged to do so
[20:21] <pace_t_zulu> the ISO testing images for the 11.04 release are available at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[20:21] <pace_t_zulu> at the very least - you can get your flavor of choice and fire up the live environment to make sure your hardware works
[20:23] <neiliob1973> pace_t_zulu, Yes, LiveStream and UStream both. Looked fine in Win7...just straight-in, nothing extra or special. But in Ubuntu, streaming on either, the quality of the video is poor...BUT looks fine when I test in Skype, Chesse, or WebCamStudio  (all in ubuntu)
[20:24] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: on my way to download now
[20:24] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: have you installed the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package?
[20:25] <neiliob1973> pace_t_zulu, pretty sure...but lemme check
[20:27] <neiliob1973> pace_t_zulu, yep, installed. just re-installed, but no difference
[20:28] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: i understand that ustream and livestream are flash applications?
[20:29] <neiliob1973> pace_t_zulu,  yes. i have latest plugin. and i've tried both firefox and chromium. same results
[20:29] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: you should get a live image from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and make sure natty works on your hardware before you do the install tomorrow
[20:30] <wrst> neiliob1973: are you 64 or 32bit?
[20:30] <neiliob1973> 32
[20:31] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: unfortunately flash is the weak link in this chain... hate to be a cop out
[20:31] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: unless you have other ideas
[20:32] <wrst> no pace_t_zulu with flash in the equation I feel confident that was it, I was hoping you were on 64 bit using the 32 bit wrapper neiliob1973 then I think I could have helped
[20:32] <neiliob1973> Son of a....of all the.....Mutha......ok. It is what it is. THNX, guys!
[20:33] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: hold on
[20:33] <neiliob1973> holding on...................
[20:33] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: there are a lot of folks who broadcast their desktops using those services
[20:33] <pace_t_zulu> neiliob1973: it's a little different from webcam... but may some of those people could be more helpful
[20:34] <neiliob1973> cool. worth a try.
[20:34] <neiliob1973> any other suggestions for webcasting training classes?
[20:35] <wrst> neiliob1973: nad sometimes a manual install of flash can help things to get the latest plugin
[20:36] <neiliob1973> THNX, again, guys!
[20:36] <vychune> o/
[20:37] <wrst> neiliob1973: wish we could have actually helped :\
[20:37] <wrst> hello vychune
[20:37] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: downloading the test iso
[20:37] <wrst> if the power stays on
[20:38] <vychune> lol
[20:38] <vychune> still storming up there
[20:41] <wrst> here too vychune
[20:41] <vychune> awwwwww
[20:41] <vychune> we are ALL good in memphis
[20:44] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: thank you for that tip! worked perfect
[20:58] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[20:58] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[20:59] <wrst> hey linuxman410
[20:59] <linuxman410> wrst getting any bad weathere
[20:59] <wrst> storming right now
[20:59] <linuxman410> thunderstorming
[21:01] <vychune> hey linux
[21:01] <linuxman410> vychune how is weather there
[21:01] <vychune> good now
[21:02] <linuxman410> it is good here right now
[21:02] <linuxman410> just thundering
[21:04] <wrst> yeah sounds like another good one may come through
[21:05] <linuxman410> wrst they are saying this storm may carry high winds
[21:06] <wrst> great! :\
[22:57] <cyberanger> everyone ok?
[22:58] <cyberanger> nasty weather
[23:03] <vychune> im good
[23:10] <cyberanger> vychune: good
[23:11] <cyberanger> looks as if wrst is not here, we lost power at the shop
[23:11] <cyberanger> so closed early
[23:11] <vychune> oh ok
[23:11] <cyberanger> another round incoming
[23:11] <cyberanger> I wonder about wrst then, that isn't his norm
[23:12] <cyberanger> (I took my server down for a little restructuring of things, so I'll be coming and going for a little bit
[23:12] <vychune> he had a ping timeout 2 min before you came in
[23:12] <cyberanger> power loss then
[23:15] <cyberanger> they're back now, just a flicker
[23:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea... now you don't have to broadcast your ip or hostname everytime you connect and join
[23:25] <pace_t_zulu> i'm testing the "Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac (20110427)" iso ... doing the live session test case... and i get the message "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" ... anyone have any ideas?
[23:50] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: that's not good is it no clue, i'm going to try to look at that tonight here in a few
[23:52] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i suspect it has something to do with the +mac iso / my new hardware
[23:53] <wrst> i would suspect that could be