[01:30] everyone ok? [01:41] vychune: ok here... you? [01:42] wrst: i see you're back home [01:42] good playing word gags in #midsouthmakers [01:46] pace_t_zulu: yes powersupply or MB out in server [01:47] wrst: wait what? [01:48] same ? [01:51] wrst: so the server is down - hardware issue ... [01:55] o/ === Juzzy- is now known as Juzzy [01:58] yeah pace_t_zulu === wrst_ is now known as wrst [02:00] wrst: sorry to hear that... wrst did you just reroute your quassel port to your desktop? [02:01] just moved the hard drive to my desktop now to figure out what is wrong [02:02] pace_t_zulu: I use my server much more than my desktop anyway [02:04] pace_t_zulu: I will never speak of uptime again :) [02:04] wrst: i know, i feel bad... almost like i jinxed it [02:06] LOL === Juzzy- is now known as Juzzy [02:08] pace_t_zulu: ha ha [02:09] pace_t_zulu: the MB appears to be getting power but the powersupply fan is locked up and smells pretty bad I'm thinking power supply? [02:09] wrst: sounds like a reasonable place to start [02:11] and I get no video of course that could be the MB but if the fan is locked its done anyway [02:30] any of you guys by chance remember an old website going around about 8-10 yrs ago, something like "high impact moves" some little chinaman jumping/climbing/scaling walls, balconies, all kinds of crazy acrobatics out on the street? [02:31] free running ya mean? [02:33] maybe ;/ [02:51] serach for that [02:56] ya thx [02:59] np [03:20] wrst: issues? [03:20] yes cyberanger :) [03:31] cyberanger: powersupply i think on my server === vychune is now known as conan-kun [03:33] wrst: well, power supply is easy [03:33] in comparison to the desktop [03:33] which I think is what I read there [03:34] yes pretty sure that is it, the MB does still have a LED on but the fan on the power supply is locked up [03:34] so i put my HDD from the server in my desktop and am running a little hybrid system now [03:39] wrst: by hybrid you mean irssi, elinks & mutt? [03:40] haha no just moved my server HDD into my desktop :) [03:41] with irssi, elinks & mutt ;-) [03:41] as long as the hdd is good [03:41] what's your psu [03:42] something fairly cheap [03:44] I mean, cheap to replace, not a high end one [03:47] yeah a 250 watt micro atx one [03:47] i have an atom server [04:04] well, that's not too costly, not as cheap as an atx though [04:04] it's the server ones that really hurt [04:17] oh yes [04:17] about 20-30 bucks it seems === Juzzy- is now known as Juzzy === Juzzy- is now known as Juzzy [15:17] cyberanger1: you ok? [15:17] :) [15:40] Sup! [17:26] hey everyone ok so far? [17:26] can anyone tell me what the number is that "echo ${$}" spits out? === wrst_Quassel is now known as wrst [18:16] okay so what is the verdict? Do I install 11.04 tomorrow or do I go with 10.10? [18:17] 11.04 [18:17] Xpistos: that's my thought if you are ok with Unity [18:18] or just use the "classic" desktop [18:18] and Xpistos if you get a daily download you will practically have the release [18:20] I will wait until tomorrow [18:20] If i don't like unity can I get back to gnome 2 [18:21] although I will probably go with xfce if I don't like unity [18:21] cause I don't use my normal desktop anyway [18:21] I kill all the panels and use awn [18:22] I don't know what I will do since Gnome 3 doesn't work well on it, i'm not a fan of Unity and just not going to use it when there is a much better option out there [18:23] what? [18:23] probably on ubuntu installs I may go with kubuntu [18:23] AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! [18:23] I had kde [18:23] I hate kde rather [18:23] Gnome 3 on ubuntu, doesn't work well [18:23] 4.6 is pretty good Xpistos, and gnome shell i think is very good unity is a distant 3-5th place at best [18:23] I would use fluxbox in a heartbeat but I can't get my wireless working on it [18:24] I love fluxbox and IceWM [18:32] Xpistos: probably just need network manager applet running to get wireless going, or that's how i do it [18:33] kubuntu is solid in a VM as well without 3d drivers [18:34] pace_t_zulu: they have really done some good things in kde 4.6 [18:34] wrst: i haven't been using the 4.x line of kde so much till now [18:34] wrst: what significant advances happened between 4.5 and 4.6? [18:34] well IMO it was pretty crappy in the early go of things but has matured nicely [18:35] stability pace_t_zulu, lots of stability [18:35] that has always been my complaint with the 4.x kde [18:35] its still not as stable as gnome 2.3 [18:35] but its very useable [18:35] thats one reason I'm so excited about Gnome 3 is that its very stable right now [18:38] well let me load it up in my vm [18:39] Are you guys ok? [18:41] yep still hanging on here Xpistos, you guys getting the weather too i'm sure? [18:42] not so much down here [18:42] what is the kde install kubuntu-desktop? [18:44] wrst: you know if i can upgrade an ubuntu kernel without restarting? [18:46] pace_t_zulu: to be honest I didn't know you could upgrade the kernel on anything without restarting, I know after the upgrade it always tells you restart required [18:52] i remember hearing about some splice technology [18:52] wrst: on the subject of uptime... [18:57] wb pace_t_zulu hey atlest you don't need parts ;) [19:03] wrst: you work out what parts you need? [19:03] wrst: you know... a micro tier cloud deployment may be less expensive than any new part ;) [19:03] pace_t_zulu: I looked at that actually :) [19:03] power supply was 20 bucks but a whole new thing was not a lot more [19:04] but, won't have to fool with all of it [19:12] wrst: so you going to replace the machine? [19:13] nah just the power supply the machine is great [19:13] 20 bucks from new egg [20:10] wrst: good deal [20:10] Xpistos: 11.04 for sure [20:10] yeah the case was like 50 or 60 bucks with the power supply [20:10] Xpistos: only reason to go for an older release is LTS [20:11] pace_t_zulu, Xpistos only warning i would have is if you have broadcom wireless at last time I tried they are still broken [20:11] that is what I have [20:11] wrst: on natty? [20:11] yes [20:11] wrst: they should have broadcom fixed for final... wrst when did you last try [20:12] the bcmw kernel modules are broken, but the old version works so every update you have to reinstall the old ones [20:12] pace_t_zulu: its been a week or so [20:12] i would think surely they would have that fixed [20:12] wrst: that's pretty weak [20:12] pardon the pun [20:12] :) pace_t_zulu [20:12] wrst: that should have been fixed before beta [20:12] yeah i agree pace_t_zulu [20:13] and pace_t_zulu a little looking may just be a 64bit issue now [20:13] hello neiliob1973 [20:14] hi! I'm in Johnson City, TN....WOOT! [20:14] anyone know much about webcams? [20:14] wrst: i suppose 64bit is is a bit excusable... [20:15] pace_t_zulu: yeah i won't use it on the final release as my laptop just has 2GB of RAM i will however use it on my desktop [20:15] woot my network is back running! [20:15] wrst: which network? [20:16] neiliob1973: what are you needing on webcams? [20:16] pace_t_zulu: i mena my internet pace_t_zulu :) [20:16] hi neiliob1973 === wrst_ is now known as wrst [20:16] neiliob1973: i use webcams :) [20:16] wrst: your home connection? [20:17] yes pace_t_zulu [20:17] just got a Logitech 9000 pro....works fine in Win7.... in ubuntu 10.10 works fine in Cheese, WebCamStudio, and Skype, but when I try streaming on Livestream or UStream, the video quality TANKS! Any ideas? [20:18] wrst: you should use SASL ... that way your cloak is on before you join the room [20:19] wrst: SASL authentication to freenode that is [20:19] neiliob1973: you tried streaming on Livestream or UStream on win7 ? excuse my ignorance on windows and linux webcam software ... [20:20] pace_t_zulu: SASL? you say I shall google :) [20:21] hey guys... anyone interested in doing last minute tests on Natty should feel encouraged to do so [20:21] the ISO testing images for the 11.04 release are available at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [20:21] at the very least - you can get your flavor of choice and fire up the live environment to make sure your hardware works [20:23] pace_t_zulu, Yes, LiveStream and UStream both. Looked fine in Win7...just straight-in, nothing extra or special. But in Ubuntu, streaming on either, the quality of the video is poor...BUT looks fine when I test in Skype, Chesse, or WebCamStudio (all in ubuntu) [20:24] pace_t_zulu: on my way to download now [20:24] neiliob1973: have you installed the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package? [20:25] pace_t_zulu, pretty sure...but lemme check [20:27] pace_t_zulu, yep, installed. just re-installed, but no difference [20:28] neiliob1973: i understand that ustream and livestream are flash applications? [20:29] pace_t_zulu, yes. i have latest plugin. and i've tried both firefox and chromium. same results [20:29] Xpistos: you should get a live image from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and make sure natty works on your hardware before you do the install tomorrow [20:30] neiliob1973: are you 64 or 32bit? [20:30] 32 [20:31] neiliob1973: unfortunately flash is the weak link in this chain... hate to be a cop out [20:31] wrst: unless you have other ideas [20:32] no pace_t_zulu with flash in the equation I feel confident that was it, I was hoping you were on 64 bit using the 32 bit wrapper neiliob1973 then I think I could have helped [20:32] Son of a....of all the.....Mutha......ok. It is what it is. THNX, guys! [20:33] neiliob1973: hold on [20:33] holding on................... [20:33] neiliob1973: there are a lot of folks who broadcast their desktops using those services [20:33] neiliob1973: it's a little different from webcam... but may some of those people could be more helpful [20:34] cool. worth a try. [20:34] any other suggestions for webcasting training classes? [20:35] neiliob1973: nad sometimes a manual install of flash can help things to get the latest plugin [20:36] THNX, again, guys! [20:36] o/ [20:37] neiliob1973: wish we could have actually helped :\ [20:37] hello vychune [20:37] pace_t_zulu: downloading the test iso [20:37] if the power stays on [20:38] lol [20:38] still storming up there [20:41] here too vychune [20:41] awwwwww [20:41] we are ALL good in memphis [20:44] pace_t_zulu: thank you for that tip! worked perfect [20:58] cyberanger u here [20:58] wrst u here [20:59] hey linuxman410 [20:59] wrst getting any bad weathere [20:59] storming right now [20:59] thunderstorming [21:01] hey linux [21:01] vychune how is weather there [21:01] good now [21:02] it is good here right now [21:02] just thundering [21:04] yeah sounds like another good one may come through [21:05] wrst they are saying this storm may carry high winds [21:06] great! :\ [22:57] everyone ok? [22:58] nasty weather [23:03] im good [23:10] vychune: good [23:11] looks as if wrst is not here, we lost power at the shop [23:11] so closed early [23:11] oh ok [23:11] another round incoming [23:11] I wonder about wrst then, that isn't his norm [23:12] (I took my server down for a little restructuring of things, so I'll be coming and going for a little bit [23:12] he had a ping timeout 2 min before you came in [23:12] power loss then [23:15] they're back now, just a flicker [23:21] wrst: yea... now you don't have to broadcast your ip or hostname everytime you connect and join [23:25] i'm testing the "Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac (20110427)" iso ... doing the live session test case... and i get the message "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" ... anyone have any ideas? [23:50] pace_t_zulu: that's not good is it no clue, i'm going to try to look at that tonight here in a few [23:52] wrst: i suspect it has something to do with the +mac iso / my new hardware [23:53] i would suspect that could be