/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/27/#ubuntuone.txt

mandelmorning all!08:30
somethinginterescan I use webdav to access my Ubuntu One files?08:40
ryesomethinginteres, hi, no, this is not supported, however once the team releases the REST file storage api then simple upload/download clients can be created, including proxying the webdav commands08:51
somethinginteresrye: OK, thanks for the response.08:52
ryemorning, by the way08:52
somethinginteresor evening depending on location :)08:53
somethinginteresbut yes, top of the morning!08:53
duanedesignmorning rye mandel08:58
* duanedesign needs to put some coffee on...08:59
pooliehi all09:00
mandelduanedesign: morning :)09:00
pooliei'm trying to sync my notes from u109:00
poolies//tomboy notes09:00
karniGood morning!09:00
pooliei egt 'could not synchronize notes.  check the details below' but there are no details below09:00
duanedesignhello poolie09:01
pooliehi09:01
duanedesignpoolie: you followed the steps  like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Notes ?09:02
pooliesome time ago09:03
duanedesignok:)09:03
poolieit had been syncing for months09:04
poolie[DEBUG 18:04:08.346] Building web request for URL: https://one.ubuntu.com/notes/api/1.0/user/09:04
poolie[ERROR 18:04:08.864] Caught exception. Message: The remote server returned an error: (404) NOT FOUND.09:04
poolie[ERROR 18:04:08.871] Stack trace for previous exception:   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.CheckFinalStatus (System.Net.WebAsyncResult result) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:009:04
duanedesignpoolie: usually in that dialog their is a little triangle you have to click to see the 'details'09:04
poolieyes, it's empty09:05
duanedesignok09:06
duanedesignpoolie: you are probably on Natty?09:12
poolieyes09:23
duanedesignpoolie: took me a minute to remember where i had heard your nick :)09:23
duanedesignrye: are you aware of any problems with note sync at the moment?09:24
ryehmmm09:25
ryeduanedesign, poolie, 404 returns in case the authentication fails (yes, it is silly, i know, need to file a bug about this finally), poolie could you please download and run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-oauth-token-validator.py as "python  ubuntuone-oauth-token-validator.py" ?09:26
duanedesignrye: ahhh09:28
duanedesignrye: that is what i was thinking...09:28
duanedesignrye: woulod it not be bug 57593709:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 575937 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Can't synchronize Tomboy Notes: Server returned 404 NOT FOUND (affects: 29) (dups: 5) (heat: 129)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57593709:30
pooliesounds likely09:30
ryeduanedesign, yes, but there is another script that copies the sync tokens so that we avoid re-synchronization09:30
duanedesignkk09:31
poolierye, duanedesign, do you want any debug information before i do that?09:34
pooliei think i hit this before, months ago09:34
poolie(though it may not have been the same bug)09:34
ryeduanedesign, what's the output of the first script?09:34
poolieand i reconfigured synchronization09:34
pooliewhich caused a ton of conflicts09:34
poolierye:09:37
poolieTesting Tomboy GConf token:  ERROR: 40109:37
poolieTesting Ubuntu SSO Service token:  OK09:37
poolieUbuntu One-specific gnome-keyring returned no tokens, skipping.09:37
ryepoolie, ooh, nice09:38
ryepoolie, so, please shut down tomboy, then run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-tomboy-update-auth.py - this will copy the SSO token to Tomboy GConf, this is bug #757841 as well09:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 757841 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Tomboy Ubuntu One sync plugin should not cache SSO OAuth tokens (affects: 1) (heat: 254)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75784109:39
fagan sorry slept in09:39
faganmorning09:40
duanedesigno/09:40
poolierye: "Looks like everything worked well."09:41
ryepoolie, ok, now you can start tomboy and try syncing09:41
poolieooh09:43
pooliehm, so many of them did sync, but i still got an overall failure09:43
poolieagain with no relevant details in the dialgo09:43
poolie[ERROR 18:43:11.455] Synchronization failed with the following exception: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.09:44
poolie  at System.Collections.Generic.List`1+Enumerator[Tomboy.Note].VerifyState () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:009:44
poolie  at System.Collections.Generic.List`1+Enumerator[Tomboy.Note].MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:009:44
poolie  at Tomboy.NoteManager.Find (System.String linked_title) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:009:44
poolie  at Tomboy.Sync.SyncManager.SynchronizationThread () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:009:44
duanedesignpoolie: did you recently edit a note in the webUI?09:46
poolienot recently09:46
duanedesignok09:46
pooliei probably have done it once or twice but not often09:46
poolieso, what now?09:48
mandelpoolie, duanedesign: I dont know if this will help you, but I can tell you what that erros is saying :)09:52
pooliemm, what?09:52
pooliei can guess what it means at the c# level09:53
mandelpoolie: then you know as much as I do ;)09:53
pooliei would guess further that it's a bug to do with many notes being synced at the same time09:54
poolieso repeating the sync gets the same error again09:54
mandelit does look strange that the collection is modified during the iteration, it would be interesting to look at the code09:54
poolieand promises that all these notes have been updated, but it does not seem to be committed09:54
mandelit certainly looks like the sync thread is crashing so I'd be surprise if the sync does occur...09:55
poolie:/09:55
ryepoolie, ok, now could you please try http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py ?09:56
poolieCurrent sync GUID: 009:57
poolieLatest sync revision: 79909:57
poolieFound 248 notes09:57
poolieso i did have 'always overwrite' set09:57
poolieif i set that back to 'ask me' it conflicts on a lot of notes09:57
pooliei'm prett ysure some of them have not been modified since i last synced09:57
ryepoolie, it should now fetch the notes and try parsing the XML from them09:57
ryepoolie, and then it should produce a summary of the check09:58
poolieit printed all my note titles, then 'done'09:58
pooliejust 'done'09:59
poolierye: any other ideas?10:02
faganI want to do something more to learn the code base10:13
faganI wonder if making notes on the u1 branches (other than the servers) what they do and what each files purpose is would help10:14
pooliefagan: might be useful10:15
poolieonto a dev wiki somewhere?10:15
faganpoolie: yeah id stick it into the wiki and onto my blog since10:16
poolierye: ok, killing and restarting tomboy, then resyncing with 'replace local' got it going again10:16
pooliei keep a lot of stuff in there so it's good to have it back10:16
pooliegood night all10:16
fagannight poolie10:16
faganfeck it ill do it and see what I can learn10:18
karnifagan: hahah, so feck ~ fsck ;) ?10:20
fagankarni: im Irish we dont fsck we feck it10:21
karnifagan: ahahah :)10:21
fagankarni: and its not even a curse because it means look in Irish10:22
karnifagan: that's fortunate ;)10:23
karni"look it i'll do it" ;D10:23
fagankarni: bad english + irish combo :D10:23
mandelfagan: ping10:34
faganmandel: pong10:34
mandelfagan: morning! can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_signal_broadcaster/+merge/5919110:35
faganmandel: windows review?10:35
faganoh you finished the IPC bits nice10:35
fagan(or well hopefully)10:35
mandelfagan: well, some of them, not everything, I need to write the client side and what starts everything, but we are getting there :)10:36
* fagan feels like mandel's personal wet blanket after last weeks test failures 10:36
mandelwill be requesting more reviews shortly10:36
faganmandel: passes tests on xp10:41
mandelsweet :)10:41
faganjust going to poke down the diff for a code review and then ill +1 it10:42
mandelfagan: If forgot to ask you something, can you paste the dependencies in the internal wiki page for the windows port?10:42
faganmandel: sure10:42
faganany particular page to put them into or should I create one10:43
mandelfagan: there is one, let me find it10:43
fagancool10:43
mandelfagan: https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuOne/WindowsPort10:44
faganmandel: +1 on that branch10:44
faganok ill put it in there10:45
faganI could add the links too for the .exes10:45
mandelfagan: that would be great!10:45
faganmandel: ok should be good10:58
mandelfagan: the brach? great :)10:58
faganmandel: I already gave the +1 on the branch and I completed the wiki page10:58
faganor it should be done10:58
fagan:)10:58
faganmandel: oh and I left out a few deps but they get installed by zope and lazr11:00
fagan(like oauth)11:01
faganoh and ill put in how to use google protobuf too11:02
mandelfagan: ok, I'll take a look at the wiki to add some details like extracting the eggs etc..11:02
faganmandel: I forget is PIL a dep for SSO or the client11:06
fagan(I forgot it yesterday in the post too)11:06
faganor both for that matter11:07
faganhmmmm my best guess is that its for the SSO11:08
faganmandel: actually you can do the protobuf im not the best with explaining how to do it since it took me 20 minutes11:16
mandelfagan: no worries, is a wiki, edit as much as you know, I'll go over it later :)11:16
faganmandel: well I think I have everything thats needed11:17
faganand ive only used SSO, client and the storage protocol so I only know the deps for them11:18
* fagan goes on a short break11:19
* duanedesign is back....oh good poolie got his notes synced.11:30
facundobatistaduanedesign, ping11:58
duanedesignhello facundobatista12:03
facundobatistaHola duanedesign!12:04
facundobatistaduanedesign, I was checking #768662 , and need some feedback from the user12:04
facundobatistaduanedesign, it's assigned to you... do you want to manage this, and me to assist you, or should I just take it?12:05
* duanedesign looking12:05
duanedesignfacundobatista: oh great he got back to us with logs.12:06
facundobatistaduanedesign, yeap... there's a strange situation with one of his files, and I want for him to do sha1sum on it12:06
duanedesignok12:07
duanedesignfacundobatista: is that just:  sha1sum <file>12:07
facundobatistayeap12:07
facundobatistaduanedesign, the file is: '/home/tomas/Libros/Calibre/Paul Ekman/Unmasking the face (7)/Unmasking the face - Paul Ekman.pdf'12:08
mandelralsina: ping?12:11
facundobatistaduanedesign, please, let me know if the user answers12:20
duanedesignfacundobatista: i will. Thank you.12:33
mandelfagan: ping12:52
faganmandel: pong12:52
* fagan was just doing payroll 12:52
mandelfagan: can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_pipe_code_add_client_helpers/+merge/5920912:53
mandelfagan: more changes for the IPC before I added the client side which will be done shortly :)12:53
faganmandel: ill get to it in 15 after I sort out payroll12:53
mandelfagan: sure12:53
faganjust double checking12:53
faganok done looking at the branch now12:58
duanedesignfacundobatista: ping12:59
* mandel walks dog13:01
facundobatistaduanedesign, pong13:07
duanedesignfacundobatista: have you looked at bug 776362613:10
ubot4duanedesign: Bug 7763626 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/7763626 is private13:10
duanedesignfacundobatista sorry  bug 76362613:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 763626 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu One doesn't Sync, but says that the Files are up to date (affects: 1) (heat: 503)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76362613:10
facundobatistaduanedesign, the client reaches IDLE ok13:12
facundobatistaduanedesign, in these cases, he should specify one example of file that misbehaves13:13
facundobatistaduanedesign, (like the first bug we talked about here)13:13
facundobatistaduanedesign, normally, it saves time asking upfront which file(s) is(are) having the problem, when you ask the logs13:13
* duanedesign nods13:14
duanedesignthank you13:14
=== teknico is now known as teknico_away
* fagan is done with the review and goes for a break before the standup 13:19
mptWho implemented ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk?13:26
faganmpt: my guess would be nessita13:26
faganand natailia13:27
faganbut they are in argintina13:27
faganso they arent on at the moment mpt13:27
mptok, thanks fagan13:27
faganstandup in 5?13:55
faganralsina and some of the westerners arent around13:55
alecuhola #ubuntuone!13:57
faganalecu: ello ello13:57
mandelmpt: it was indeed nessita which is natalia ;)13:58
faganmandel: wow im terrible with nicks13:58
fagan:D13:58
mptMaybe nessita does the work of two people13:58
mandelmpt: she does hehe13:58
faganmandel: I +1ed that branch anyway so I presume you are waiting on ralsina13:58
faganmpt: somebody has to pick up the slack of all the lazy peole :D13:59
mandelfagan: yes, I ddid ping him but I got no answer… alecu there are no holidays in argentina, right?13:59
faganme?13:59
alecumandel, no holidays today13:59
mandelhm… weird13:59
ryefagan, natalia = nessita13:59
ryeah14:00
faganrye: hah yeah got that14:00
ryemy news is outdated14:00
faganmy powers of confusion are strong14:00
mandelalecu: _fagan added the dependencies that are needed for the projects so that you can keep going with the windows vm set up :)14:00
mandelnot that I'm trying to say anything, it was more FYI14:01
alecumandel, fagan: cool, I'll work on it today.14:01
faganalecu: if you have any more trouble just ask away14:01
faganalecu: it will take the rest of the day probably to actually do all the bits14:01
alecune14:03
alecume14:03
mandelme14:03
faganI already said me :)14:03
alecudobey, thisfred, ralsina, mandel?14:03
dobeyeja me ne14:04
thisfredme14:04
fagancan we go on without ralsina ?14:04
mandelfagan: yes, we are flexible :)14:05
alecufagan, yes, absolutely. fagan: go!14:05
faganDONE14:05
fagan* started writing brainstorming what to say for UOW14:05
fagan* sorted payroll14:05
faganTODO14:05
fagan* finish the UOW talk14:05
fagan* finish the map of branches14:05
faganBlocked14:05
fagan* nope14:05
faganalecu: go14:05
alecuDONE: digged deep in bug #770393, found libcanberra as used by gtk was trying to start pulseaudio and failing repeatedly, so after a suggestion by dobey to unset GTK_MODULES, I did a small branch to fix it. Also started looking into "Amazon Product Adverstising API", pyaws and bottlenose for Unity Lenses roadmap bluprints item.14:06
alecuTODO: work on the windows vm, roadmap blueprints meeting14:06
alecuBLOCKED: no14:06
alecuNEXT: mandel14:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 770393 in ubuntu-sso-client "Tests are slower than before (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77039314:06
mandelDONE: Improved the way the anmed pipe works on ubuntuone-client windows. Added part of the client IPC lib implementation.14:06
mandelTODO: Call with UX. Finish client side code. Move to write main method that start up everyhting. Basic Control panel.14:06
mandelBLOCKED: no14:06
mandeldobey, please14:06
dobeyλ DONE: bug #770379, broke trunk, fixed trunk14:06
dobeyλ TODO: protocol/client releases for 0-day SRU, finish nightlies fixes, maverick/lucid SRUs14:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77037914:06
dobeyλ BLCK: None.14:06
dobeythisfred: brevity please :)14:06
thisfredDONE: read vala tutorials, reviews14:06
thisfredTODO: blueprints14:06
thisfredBLOCKED: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (for dobey that one)14:07
faganthisfred: ive done a bit of vala a while back if you need help14:07
thisfredfagan: thanks! It looks fairly easy.14:07
faganthisfred: tis14:07
fagan:D14:07
mandelthisfred: if you have done plain gobject is very easy to understand, at the end of the day is a translator :P14:08
faganwell if you know java and/or C/C++ it should be ok14:08
thisfredmandel: yeah, I haven't, though, but again, it looks pretty straightforward14:08
faganjust you cant do jagged arrays :(14:08
* alecu needs to take Amelia to kinder, and will be back in ~20'14:09
alecubbl14:10
* mandel warms up chinese left overs.. will be back in 5 min14:10
* mandel back14:16
faganwow ivanka's ip is 2 for the first octet14:35
fagannever seen one that low14:35
* fagan is easily impressed by nerdy things 14:35
=== teknico_away is now known as teknico
mandel@ping14:40
ubot4pong14:40
faganmandel: why did you ping the bot?14:43
* fagan is just wondering 14:43
mandelfagan: to know if my network was down, I saw nothing happening hehe14:43
faganmandel: just quiet14:44
faganI thought it was pretty quet too14:44
fagan*quiet14:44
dobeyzombies aren't very good at using IRC14:46
dobeyso as more people being to turn, less people pay attention to irc14:46
fagandobey: good thing my house is safe atm14:47
fagan:)14:47
* fagan has some awesome zombie defences up14:47
alecudobey, would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/assertis-is-only-27-stable (since it's the same as https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/assertis-is-only-27 but for stable)15:08
dobeyalecu: yeah, it's on my list.15:08
alecugreat, thanks.15:08
faganif you need another +1 I can look at it15:09
dobeyi got it.15:09
alecufagan, perhaps you can take a look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/changed-secrets-spec/+merge/5794715:09
faganalecu: sure15:09
faganlinux review or windows or does it matter?15:10
dobeyi think it's linux specific15:10
fagancool ill do it in natty15:10
dobeyalecu: care to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/59231 please? :)15:12
alecusure15:12
alecudobey, lp says "Text conflict in configure.ac"15:13
dobeywtf15:13
dobeyoh15:14
dobeyi am an idiot15:14
dobeyalecu: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/59232 instead15:14
faganalecu: +115:14
alecufagan, thanks. Would you mind field testing that branch?15:16
fagansure so I just need to install the gnome 3 ppa and setup the branch like normal yep?15:17
dobeyalecu: +1 on your assert branch15:22
alecufagan, yes, and make sure you kill ubuntu-sso-client before doing it.15:23
faganalecu: yep was planning on it :)15:24
alecufagan, also: try it without installing the branch first, so we know it breaks successfully.15:24
alecu"successfully"15:24
* fagan forgot to kill sso last time 15:24
faganalecu: working15:31
faganfeel free to merge it15:31
alecufagan, cool. And did it fail the first time?15:31
faganalecu: I had it already installed but I presume it would fail because its trying to access it in a way that the keyring in the repo doesnt like15:33
faganalecu: im guessing but I can roll it back and break it if needs be :D15:34
faganbut it definitely works15:34
alecuok, cool15:34
nigelbfagan: did I show you the wwiki after I inserted your name?15:36
fagannigelb: nope?15:36
nigelbdammit15:36
faganOh I might have looked at it myself15:36
nigelbThe wiki doesn't seem to have your session, but I remember putting you on.15:36
fagannigelb: maybe someone else was editing when you added me15:37
faganso the diff would have gotten pushed down15:37
nigelbless likely, but anyway, now we have only 2 free session, you gotta pick one, and I owe you a drink :\15:37
faganoh no someone took the time I wanted :(15:38
faganill take the one on tuesday at 170015:38
nigelbokay15:38
alecudobey, approved the Makefile.am branch.15:38
nigelbfagan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable15:39
faganhehe15:39
* nigelb still puzzled how I missed it last night. Sigh.15:39
dobeyalecu: cheers15:39
fagannigelb: yeah im still working out the content15:40
nigelbfagan: \o/15:40
fagannigelb: I got some ideas already though15:40
nigelbman, whole load of openings in u115:40
dobeyanyone else want to give me a review? :)15:40
dobeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/5923215:40
* fagan already has a plan to get the viewers to spam mandel with high fives for being awesome :P15:40
fagandobey: I can do it if you want15:41
mandelwait what?15:41
mandelme being spam, why?15:41
faganmandel: nothing :D15:41
faganmandel: for being the one man army bringing u1 to the land of windows15:42
fagan(was kidding though)15:42
mandeloh well, I'm a big man :P15:42
fagandobey: so I just need to build it and see if it doesnt complain?15:42
dobeyuh sure, i guess15:45
fagandobey: ok working and didnt complain15:51
faganso approved15:51
alecudoh.16:02
alecuI've just checked my gmail account, and there's a mail from ralsina saying he had to run some unexpected errands this morning. doh.16:03
mandelok, so we can stop worrying16:04
dobeyand love the bomb16:08
dobeybbiab, lunch16:26
=== alecu is now known as alecu-lunch
=== beuno is now known as beuno-lunch
ryedobey, will there be any more ubuntuone-client releases before tomorrow?17:31
ryeaand ping nessita17:32
ryebut i can't ping her, since she's not here17:32
dobeyrye: yes17:38
ryedobey, are the changes already available through lp?17:38
dobeyrye: should be, yes17:39
nessitahola gente17:46
mandelnessita: hola! mpt was after you a wile back17:55
mandelfagan: ping?17:55
nessitamandel: hey there, thanks!17:55
nessitampt: you were looking for me?17:56
ralsinaalecu: sorry for mailing the wrong place. It turns out I have some minor tax problems (wrong paperwork) and I will be gone most of the day, beyond what I expected :-(17:58
nessitaralsina: hey there. Do we have a time set for the blueprint meeting?17:59
ralsinanessita: honestly? I am going to be around 1 hour and after that I have no idea when I will be back17:59
ralsinaI have to fix this or I won't be allowed to leave the country next week, and that would kinda suck ;-)18:00
nessitaralsina: do we have a deadline? can we postpone it to tomorrow?18:00
ralsinatomorrow early18:00
ralsinalet's set it fr 9AM ART? Can you make a google appointment and invite everyone?18:00
nessitaralsina: yes, I can. I f we do it tomorrow, are we in time for creating blueprints?18:01
dobeyrye: why?18:01
ryedobey, setting up a fresh natty machine to see how everything works18:02
ralsinayes, I think so. As long as we have them by late friday they are ok18:02
dobeyrye: oh. what did you mean by "available through lp" then?18:03
nessitaralsina: ack, I'll schedule it then18:03
nessitaralsina: I will set it to 10ART so USA people can make it at 9am their time18:03
ralsinanessita: cool18:03
ryedobey, well, the package itself, in a building form or a set of branches that should be merged to stable-1-618:03
nessitaso, basicaly, right after our stand up18:03
dobey9AM ART?18:03
dobeyyeah that is a bit too early18:03
nessitadobey: 10am ART18:03
mandelralsina: Chipaca wanted a mumble with us, but I guess you cant18:03
dobeywhat is that in GMT?18:03
nessitadobey: 1pm18:04
nessitaok, I'll grab a bite now18:04
dobeyok18:04
dobeyrye: ah, then no18:04
* mandel walks the dog, might be back later18:05
ralsinamandel: well, I am in a bar18:13
faganmandel: pong sorry was afk since my day was over18:13
faganoh he is off18:14
faganhey ralsina18:14
ralsinahi fagan18:14
=== beuno-lunch is now known as beuno
mptnessita, I was just wondering whether you would be interested in <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-system-settings>18:17
mptat UDS18:17
* fagan would be interested in that blueprint 18:18
faganoh and ralsina am I allowed to conribute to any of the sessions that I want (im asking since it would be all within my work hours)18:21
faganother than being at UDS ive never had a chance to get to all the ones ive been interested in18:22
ralsinafagan: I don't know of any requirements to join a session beyond wanting to be in it18:22
ralsinathen again, *I* have never been at UDS so I have no idea if there is such a requirement ;-)18:22
faganralsina: well your allowed to go to whatever you want I just mean am I free to18:23
ralsinafagan: sure18:23
fagancool18:23
faganI just thought id ask rather than going AWOL for the entire week :P18:23
faganid be around all week id just be listening in a lot and chatting to everyone in IRC at the sessions18:24
ralsinafagan: hahaha I expect reports anyway ;-)18:24
faganralsina: well id be learning in a way that id be talking with like half the company about their plans...etc18:24
fagan(in a completely non-annoying way :)18:25
ralsinafagan: feel free, just write about it later as usual and we're cool18:25
faganralsina: sure ive settled in on the writing up really long posts for the week and explaining stuff in detail18:26
faganbut for UDS id probably be doing a lot more general work so id be definitely doing one per day18:26
dobeyralsina, fagan: requirement is that for every session you attend, you must buy me beer.18:29
fagandobey: im not going to be in person18:29
dobeyfagan: i'll see if the bar accepts wire transfer as payment18:30
faganso ill buy you a beer a drink it myself in ireland18:30
ralsinadobey, fagan: beer-over-wire tastes bad18:30
dobeyworst case, they'll probably take paypal18:30
fagandobey: well im sure I can get some courier to bring it18:30
faganits not too far :D18:30
dobeyyou can just give me your debit card and PIN and i'll get it out the atm myself :)18:31
fagandobey: yeah why not......no wait18:31
faganooooh and you know what would be fun if I could skype to the u1 sessions18:33
faganall I need is someones computer18:33
ralsinafagan: the main problem is that you will only see the omputer owner's face18:33
dobeyirc will be fine18:33
dobeythere was discussion of a mumble server for UDS, but i think it would probably cause a lot of problems18:34
fagandobey: for the 2 years ive remotely participated ive never enjoyed it18:34
faganits a bit of a pain in the ass18:34
dobeyfagan: trust me, you would hate skype and mumble even more18:34
fagandobey: why?18:34
faganbad internet?18:36
dobeyfagan: because there probably isn't going to be enough bandwidth to handle all the people who would want to do it, and the speakers on someone's computer are probably not going to be loud enough18:36
fagandobey: well its just little old me hehe18:36
dobeyfagan: well you say that, and then everyone else starts doing it, and boom.18:36
dobeythere goes the internets18:36
fagandobey: yeah it wouldnt be good on mass but for specific people who can give a lot to a session it would be interesting18:37
dobeyfagan: there is no way to make such a determination. you have no idea who may or may not be able to give a lot to a session18:38
fagandobey: you havent been in a UDS session with me I talk a good lot.18:39
nessitadobey: hey there, did you understand last comment in bug #770379?18:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77037918:39
fagandobey: its cool though I get what you are saying18:39
=== zyga is now known as zyga-afk-bbl
dobeyfagan: talking a lot doesn't necessarily mean that you are giving a lot to a session either. but what i meant is that you can't say that you and only you are going to have any valuable input in a session18:40
dobeynessita: the one from seb?18:40
nessitayeah18:40
dobeyyes18:40
fagandobey: well specifically I think I gave a good bit to the u1ms sessions over the years18:40
faganthats where I met aquarius first if I remember right18:41
fagandobey: anyway yeah I know specific sessions dont really mesure how good you are in all of the sessions18:42
ralsinafagan: I think dobey means that if someone is allowed to mumble in, everyone will be allowed because you can't say beforehand who should be allowed. And then it will suck.18:42
dobeyfagan: that's fine, i'm not saying you did or didn't. i'm just saying that treating someone specially in that manner is only going to upset other remote people who think they have something of value18:42
fagandobey: well thats a good point18:42
dobeyeither you participate locally, or you participate remotely the same way everyone else does.18:43
dobeyotherwise it just creates problems, logistically and socially18:43
faganyeah I just though team members could be given special privilages18:44
faganI know what you mean though18:44
dobeygah, thunder. guess it's about to storm here18:45
fagandobey: hide your internets before it takes it down18:46
dobeyeh i will be fine18:47
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dobeysigh19:22
fagandobey: whats the problem19:23
* fagan doesnt mind helping as long as its not being a lightning rod 19:23
dobeyi am an idiot19:25
fagandobey: I cant help with that other than trying to channel my wasted brain power to you telepathically19:26
fagan:D19:26
dobeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyxXX3Ra4A is how i feel right now19:29
* fagan moves ahead with the telepathic channeling of power to dobey 19:30
fagandobey: do you feel the power!19:30
dobeyMY BRAIN HURTS!19:30
fagandobey: awh19:31
* fagan stops the channeling since its going to make dobey's head explode :)19:31
dobeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/no-config-data/+merge/5926719:37
dobeyand https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/no-config-data-1-6/+merge/5926819:38
dobeyi could use some reviews on those asap please ^^19:38
* fagan could do it but if other people are around they can do it instead 19:39
fagandobey: arent they the same change?19:41
dobeyfagan: one is for stable-1-6 series19:41
faganooooooh19:41
fagandobey: does it need testing?19:41
faganit seems trivial19:41
dobeynot especially19:42
fagani can +1 now then19:42
dobeyalecu, nessita, ralsina, anyone else? ^^19:42
nessitasure19:43
dobeythanks19:43
dobeyre nessita, thisfred20:06
thisfredyeah, power outages again here20:07
nessitadobey: yes?20:07
thisfredmust be windy20:07
dobeynessita: you left/joined20:07
nessitadobey: yes, internet issues here. Your branches, approved.20:07
nessitadobey: did I miss something?20:07
dobeynessita: great, thanks20:07
dobeynessita: no, i was just saying welcome back20:07
nessitaah! thanks20:08
dobey    test_app_name_is_stored ... ./run-tests: line 41: 16942 Floating point exception`which xvfb-run` u1trial "$MODULE" -i "test_windows.py, test_qt_views.py"20:21
dobeyawesome20:21
nessitadobey: my ubuntuone-client-gnome in uninstalled! and I'm 90% sure I had it21:45
nessita(but no 100%)21:45
dobeyuhm, ok21:47
dobeywould love to know why :)21:47
nessitaright21:47
nessitadobey: this is what I have:21:48
nessita    146 Start-Date: 2011-04-07  17:38:0121:48
nessita    147 Purge: ubuntuone-client-gnome:amd64 (1.5.8+r946~natty1)21:48
nessita    148 End-Date: 2011-04-07  17:38:0821:48
nessitadobey: I don't remember purging that21:48
dobeythat was a while ago21:50
nessitaright21:51
nessitawe were sprinting back then21:51
dobeyare you sure you didn't purge it? so you wouldn't have the nautilus issue that you still haven't tested my branch for?21:51
nessitawho knows, maybe I purge it to test something?21:51
dobeyi don't know21:51
dobeybut i don't think there's enough information there to tell us anything. and i am pretty sure apt doesn't purge by itself21:52
dobeyyou have to tell it to -remove -purge21:52
dobeyerr, remove --purge21:52
dobeymy typing is fail21:52
nessitadobey: right. Ok let's blame me this time ;-) (makes sense)21:53
dobeycheers all22:17

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