[08:30] <mandel> morning all!
[08:40] <somethinginteres> can I use webdav to access my Ubuntu One files?
[08:51] <rye> somethinginteres, hi, no, this is not supported, however once the team releases the REST file storage api then simple upload/download clients can be created, including proxying the webdav commands
[08:52] <somethinginteres> rye: OK, thanks for the response.
[08:52] <rye> morning, by the way
[08:53] <somethinginteres> or evening depending on location :)
[08:53] <somethinginteres> but yes, top of the morning!
[08:58] <duanedesign> morning rye mandel
[08:59]  * duanedesign needs to put some coffee on...
[09:00] <poolie> hi all
[09:00] <mandel> duanedesign: morning :)
[09:00] <poolie> i'm trying to sync my notes from u1
[09:00] <poolie> s//tomboy notes
[09:00] <karni> Good morning!
[09:00] <poolie> i egt 'could not synchronize notes.  check the details below' but there are no details below
[09:01] <duanedesign> hello poolie
[09:01] <poolie> hi
[09:02] <duanedesign> poolie: you followed the steps  like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Notes ?
[09:03] <poolie> some time ago
[09:03] <duanedesign> ok:)
[09:04] <poolie> it had been syncing for months
[09:04] <poolie> [DEBUG 18:04:08.346] Building web request for URL: https://one.ubuntu.com/notes/api/1.0/user/
[09:04] <poolie> [ERROR 18:04:08.864] Caught exception. Message: The remote server returned an error: (404) NOT FOUND.
[09:04] <poolie> [ERROR 18:04:08.871] Stack trace for previous exception:   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.CheckFinalStatus (System.Net.WebAsyncResult result) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[09:04] <duanedesign> poolie: usually in that dialog their is a little triangle you have to click to see the 'details'
[09:05] <poolie> yes, it's empty
[09:06] <duanedesign> ok
[09:12] <duanedesign> poolie: you are probably on Natty?
[09:23] <poolie> yes
[09:23] <duanedesign> poolie: took me a minute to remember where i had heard your nick :)
[09:24] <duanedesign> rye: are you aware of any problems with note sync at the moment?
[09:25] <rye> hmmm
[09:26] <rye> duanedesign, poolie, 404 returns in case the authentication fails (yes, it is silly, i know, need to file a bug about this finally), poolie could you please download and run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-oauth-token-validator.py as "python  ubuntuone-oauth-token-validator.py" ?
[09:28] <duanedesign> rye: ahhh
[09:28] <duanedesign> rye: that is what i was thinking...
[09:30] <duanedesign> rye: woulod it not be bug 575937
[09:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 575937 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Can't synchronize Tomboy Notes: Server returned 404 NOT FOUND (affects: 29) (dups: 5) (heat: 129)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575937
[09:30] <poolie> sounds likely
[09:30] <rye> duanedesign, yes, but there is another script that copies the sync tokens so that we avoid re-synchronization
[09:31] <duanedesign> kk
[09:34] <poolie> rye, duanedesign, do you want any debug information before i do that?
[09:34] <poolie> i think i hit this before, months ago
[09:34] <poolie> (though it may not have been the same bug)
[09:34] <rye> duanedesign, what's the output of the first script?
[09:34] <poolie> and i reconfigured synchronization
[09:34] <poolie> which caused a ton of conflicts
[09:37] <poolie> rye:
[09:37] <poolie> Testing Tomboy GConf token:  ERROR: 401
[09:37] <poolie> Testing Ubuntu SSO Service token:  OK
[09:37] <poolie> Ubuntu One-specific gnome-keyring returned no tokens, skipping.
[09:38] <rye> poolie, ooh, nice
[09:39] <rye> poolie, so, please shut down tomboy, then run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-tomboy-update-auth.py - this will copy the SSO token to Tomboy GConf, this is bug #757841 as well
[09:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 757841 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Tomboy Ubuntu One sync plugin should not cache SSO OAuth tokens (affects: 1) (heat: 254)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/757841
[09:39] <fagan>  sorry slept in
[09:40] <fagan> morning
[09:40] <duanedesign> o/
[09:41] <poolie> rye: "Looks like everything worked well."
[09:41] <rye> poolie, ok, now you can start tomboy and try syncing
[09:43] <poolie> ooh
[09:43] <poolie> hm, so many of them did sync, but i still got an overall failure
[09:43] <poolie> again with no relevant details in the dialgo
[09:44] <poolie> [ERROR 18:43:11.455] Synchronization failed with the following exception: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.
[09:44] <poolie>   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1+Enumerator[Tomboy.Note].VerifyState () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[09:44] <poolie>   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1+Enumerator[Tomboy.Note].MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[09:44] <poolie>   at Tomboy.NoteManager.Find (System.String linked_title) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[09:44] <poolie>   at Tomboy.Sync.SyncManager.SynchronizationThread () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[09:46] <duanedesign> poolie: did you recently edit a note in the webUI?
[09:46] <poolie> not recently
[09:46] <duanedesign> ok
[09:46] <poolie> i probably have done it once or twice but not often
[09:48] <poolie> so, what now?
[09:52] <mandel> poolie, duanedesign: I dont know if this will help you, but I can tell you what that erros is saying :)
[09:52] <poolie> mm, what?
[09:53] <poolie> i can guess what it means at the c# level
[09:53] <mandel> poolie: then you know as much as I do ;)
[09:54] <poolie> i would guess further that it's a bug to do with many notes being synced at the same time
[09:54] <poolie> so repeating the sync gets the same error again
[09:54] <mandel> it does look strange that the collection is modified during the iteration, it would be interesting to look at the code
[09:54] <poolie> and promises that all these notes have been updated, but it does not seem to be committed
[09:55] <mandel> it certainly looks like the sync thread is crashing so I'd be surprise if the sync does occur...
[09:55] <poolie> :/
[09:56] <rye> poolie, ok, now could you please try http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py ?
[09:57] <poolie> Current sync GUID: 0
[09:57] <poolie> Latest sync revision: 799
[09:57] <poolie> Found 248 notes
[09:57] <poolie> so i did have 'always overwrite' set
[09:57] <poolie> if i set that back to 'ask me' it conflicts on a lot of notes
[09:57] <poolie> i'm prett ysure some of them have not been modified since i last synced
[09:57] <rye> poolie, it should now fetch the notes and try parsing the XML from them
[09:58] <rye> poolie, and then it should produce a summary of the check
[09:58] <poolie> it printed all my note titles, then 'done'
[09:59] <poolie> just 'done'
[10:02] <poolie> rye: any other ideas?
[10:13] <fagan> I want to do something more to learn the code base
[10:14] <fagan> I wonder if making notes on the u1 branches (other than the servers) what they do and what each files purpose is would help
[10:15] <poolie> fagan: might be useful
[10:15] <poolie> onto a dev wiki somewhere?
[10:16] <fagan> poolie: yeah id stick it into the wiki and onto my blog since
[10:16] <poolie> rye: ok, killing and restarting tomboy, then resyncing with 'replace local' got it going again
[10:16] <poolie> i keep a lot of stuff in there so it's good to have it back
[10:16] <poolie> good night all
[10:16] <fagan> night poolie
[10:18] <fagan> feck it ill do it and see what I can learn
[10:20] <karni> fagan: hahah, so feck ~ fsck ;) ?
[10:21] <fagan> karni: im Irish we dont fsck we feck it
[10:21] <karni> fagan: ahahah :)
[10:22] <fagan> karni: and its not even a curse because it means look in Irish
[10:23] <karni> fagan: that's fortunate ;)
[10:23] <karni> "look it i'll do it" ;D
[10:23] <fagan> karni: bad english + irish combo :D
[10:34] <mandel> fagan: ping
[10:34] <fagan> mandel: pong
[10:35] <mandel> fagan: morning! can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_signal_broadcaster/+merge/59191
[10:35] <fagan> mandel: windows review?
[10:35] <fagan> oh you finished the IPC bits nice
[10:35] <fagan> (or well hopefully)
[10:36] <mandel> fagan: well, some of them, not everything, I need to write the client side and what starts everything, but we are getting there :)
[10:36]  * fagan feels like mandel's personal wet blanket after last weeks test failures 
[10:36] <mandel> will be requesting more reviews shortly
[10:41] <fagan> mandel: passes tests on xp
[10:41] <mandel> sweet :)
[10:42] <fagan> just going to poke down the diff for a code review and then ill +1 it
[10:42] <mandel> fagan: If forgot to ask you something, can you paste the dependencies in the internal wiki page for the windows port?
[10:42] <fagan> mandel: sure
[10:43] <fagan> any particular page to put them into or should I create one
[10:43] <mandel> fagan: there is one, let me find it
[10:43] <fagan> cool
[10:44] <mandel> fagan: https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuOne/WindowsPort
[10:44] <fagan> mandel: +1 on that branch
[10:45] <fagan> ok ill put it in there
[10:45] <fagan> I could add the links too for the .exes
[10:45] <mandel> fagan: that would be great!
[10:58] <fagan> mandel: ok should be good
[10:58] <mandel> fagan: the brach? great :)
[10:58] <fagan> mandel: I already gave the +1 on the branch and I completed the wiki page
[10:58] <fagan> or it should be done
[10:58] <fagan> :)
[11:00] <fagan> mandel: oh and I left out a few deps but they get installed by zope and lazr
[11:01] <fagan> (like oauth)
[11:02] <fagan> oh and ill put in how to use google protobuf too
[11:02] <mandel> fagan: ok, I'll take a look at the wiki to add some details like extracting the eggs etc..
[11:06] <fagan> mandel: I forget is PIL a dep for SSO or the client
[11:06] <fagan> (I forgot it yesterday in the post too)
[11:07] <fagan> or both for that matter
[11:08] <fagan> hmmmm my best guess is that its for the SSO
[11:16] <fagan> mandel: actually you can do the protobuf im not the best with explaining how to do it since it took me 20 minutes
[11:16] <mandel> fagan: no worries, is a wiki, edit as much as you know, I'll go over it later :)
[11:17] <fagan> mandel: well I think I have everything thats needed
[11:18] <fagan> and ive only used SSO, client and the storage protocol so I only know the deps for them
[11:19]  * fagan goes on a short break
[11:30]  * duanedesign is back....oh good poolie got his notes synced.
[11:58] <facundobatista> duanedesign, ping
[12:03] <duanedesign> hello facundobatista
[12:04] <facundobatista> Hola duanedesign!
[12:04] <facundobatista> duanedesign, I was checking #768662 , and need some feedback from the user
[12:05] <facundobatista> duanedesign, it's assigned to you... do you want to manage this, and me to assist you, or should I just take it?
[12:05]  * duanedesign looking
[12:06] <duanedesign> facundobatista: oh great he got back to us with logs.
[12:06] <facundobatista> duanedesign, yeap... there's a strange situation with one of his files, and I want for him to do sha1sum on it
[12:07] <duanedesign> ok
[12:07] <duanedesign> facundobatista: is that just:  sha1sum <file>
[12:07] <facundobatista> yeap
[12:08] <facundobatista> duanedesign, the file is: '/home/tomas/Libros/Calibre/Paul Ekman/Unmasking the face (7)/Unmasking the face - Paul Ekman.pdf'
[12:11] <mandel> ralsina: ping?
[12:20] <facundobatista> duanedesign, please, let me know if the user answers
[12:33] <duanedesign> facundobatista: i will. Thank you.
[12:52] <mandel> fagan: ping
[12:52] <fagan> mandel: pong
[12:52]  * fagan was just doing payroll 
[12:53] <mandel> fagan: can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_pipe_code_add_client_helpers/+merge/59209
[12:53] <mandel> fagan: more changes for the IPC before I added the client side which will be done shortly :)
[12:53] <fagan> mandel: ill get to it in 15 after I sort out payroll
[12:53] <mandel> fagan: sure
[12:53] <fagan> just double checking
[12:58] <fagan> ok done looking at the branch now
[12:59] <duanedesign> facundobatista: ping
[13:01]  * mandel walks dog
[13:07] <facundobatista> duanedesign, pong
[13:10] <duanedesign> facundobatista: have you looked at bug 7763626
[13:10] <ubot4> duanedesign: Bug 7763626 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/7763626 is private
[13:10] <duanedesign> facundobatista sorry  bug 763626
[13:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 763626 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu One doesn't Sync, but says that the Files are up to date (affects: 1) (heat: 503)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/763626
[13:12] <facundobatista> duanedesign, the client reaches IDLE ok
[13:13] <facundobatista> duanedesign, in these cases, he should specify one example of file that misbehaves
[13:13] <facundobatista> duanedesign, (like the first bug we talked about here)
[13:13] <facundobatista> duanedesign, normally, it saves time asking upfront which file(s) is(are) having the problem, when you ask the logs
[13:14]  * duanedesign nods
[13:14] <duanedesign> thank you
[13:19]  * fagan is done with the review and goes for a break before the standup 
[13:26] <mpt> Who implemented ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk?
[13:26] <fagan> mpt: my guess would be nessita
[13:27] <fagan> and natailia
[13:27] <fagan> but they are in argintina
[13:27] <fagan> so they arent on at the moment mpt
[13:27] <mpt> ok, thanks fagan
[13:55] <fagan> standup in 5?
[13:55] <fagan> ralsina and some of the westerners arent around
[13:57] <alecu> hola #ubuntuone!
[13:57] <fagan> alecu: ello ello
[13:58] <mandel> mpt: it was indeed nessita which is natalia ;)
[13:58] <fagan> mandel: wow im terrible with nicks
[13:58] <fagan> :D
[13:58] <mpt> Maybe nessita does the work of two people
[13:58] <mandel> mpt: she does hehe
[13:58] <fagan> mandel: I +1ed that branch anyway so I presume you are waiting on ralsina
[13:59] <fagan> mpt: somebody has to pick up the slack of all the lazy peole :D
[13:59] <mandel> fagan: yes, I ddid ping him but I got no answer… alecu there are no holidays in argentina, right?
[13:59] <fagan> me?
[13:59] <alecu> mandel, no holidays today
[13:59] <mandel> hm… weird
[13:59] <rye> fagan, natalia = nessita
[14:00] <rye> ah
[14:00] <fagan> rye: hah yeah got that
[14:00] <rye> my news is outdated
[14:00] <fagan> my powers of confusion are strong
[14:00] <mandel> alecu: _fagan added the dependencies that are needed for the projects so that you can keep going with the windows vm set up :)
[14:01] <mandel> not that I'm trying to say anything, it was more FYI
[14:01] <alecu> mandel, fagan: cool, I'll work on it today.
[14:01] <fagan> alecu: if you have any more trouble just ask away
[14:01] <fagan> alecu: it will take the rest of the day probably to actually do all the bits
[14:03] <alecu> ne
[14:03] <alecu> me
[14:03] <mandel> me
[14:03] <fagan> I already said me :)
[14:03] <alecu> dobey, thisfred, ralsina, mandel?
[14:04] <dobey> eja me ne
[14:04] <thisfred> me
[14:04] <fagan> can we go on without ralsina ?
[14:05] <mandel> fagan: yes, we are flexible :)
[14:05] <alecu> fagan, yes, absolutely. fagan: go!
[14:05] <fagan> DONE
[14:05] <fagan> * started writing brainstorming what to say for UOW
[14:05] <fagan> * sorted payroll
[14:05] <fagan> TODO
[14:05] <fagan> * finish the UOW talk
[14:05] <fagan> * finish the map of branches
[14:05] <fagan> Blocked
[14:05] <fagan> * nope
[14:05] <fagan> alecu: go
[14:06] <alecu> DONE: digged deep in bug #770393, found libcanberra as used by gtk was trying to start pulseaudio and failing repeatedly, so after a suggestion by dobey to unset GTK_MODULES, I did a small branch to fix it. Also started looking into "Amazon Product Adverstising API", pyaws and bottlenose for Unity Lenses roadmap bluprints item.
[14:06] <alecu> TODO: work on the windows vm, roadmap blueprints meeting
[14:06] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:06] <alecu> NEXT: mandel
[14:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770393 in ubuntu-sso-client "Tests are slower than before (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770393
[14:06] <mandel> DONE: Improved the way the anmed pipe works on ubuntuone-client windows. Added part of the client IPC lib implementation.
[14:06] <mandel> TODO: Call with UX. Finish client side code. Move to write main method that start up everyhting. Basic Control panel.
[14:06] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[14:06] <mandel> dobey, please
[14:06] <dobey> λ DONE: bug #770379, broke trunk, fixed trunk
[14:06] <dobey> λ TODO: protocol/client releases for 0-day SRU, finish nightlies fixes, maverick/lucid SRUs
[14:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770379
[14:06] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:06] <dobey> thisfred: brevity please :)
[14:06] <thisfred> DONE: read vala tutorials, reviews
[14:06] <thisfred> TODO: blueprints
[14:07] <thisfred> BLOCKED: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (for dobey that one)
[14:07] <fagan> thisfred: ive done a bit of vala a while back if you need help
[14:07] <thisfred> fagan: thanks! It looks fairly easy.
[14:07] <fagan> thisfred: tis
[14:07] <fagan> :D
[14:08] <mandel> thisfred: if you have done plain gobject is very easy to understand, at the end of the day is a translator :P
[14:08] <fagan> well if you know java and/or C/C++ it should be ok
[14:08] <thisfred> mandel: yeah, I haven't, though, but again, it looks pretty straightforward
[14:08] <fagan> just you cant do jagged arrays :(
[14:09]  * alecu needs to take Amelia to kinder, and will be back in ~20'
[14:10] <alecu> bbl
[14:10]  * mandel warms up chinese left overs.. will be back in 5 min
[14:16]  * mandel back
[14:35] <fagan> wow ivanka's ip is 2 for the first octet
[14:35] <fagan> never seen one that low
[14:35]  * fagan is easily impressed by nerdy things 
[14:40] <mandel> @ping
[14:40] <ubot4> pong
[14:43] <fagan> mandel: why did you ping the bot?
[14:43]  * fagan is just wondering 
[14:43] <mandel> fagan: to know if my network was down, I saw nothing happening hehe
[14:44] <fagan> mandel: just quiet
[14:44] <fagan> I thought it was pretty quet too
[14:44] <fagan> *quiet
[14:46] <dobey> zombies aren't very good at using IRC
[14:46] <dobey> so as more people being to turn, less people pay attention to irc
[14:47] <fagan> dobey: good thing my house is safe atm
[14:47] <fagan> :)
[14:47]  * fagan has some awesome zombie defences up
[15:08] <alecu> dobey, would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/assertis-is-only-27-stable (since it's the same as https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/assertis-is-only-27 but for stable)
[15:08] <dobey> alecu: yeah, it's on my list.
[15:08] <alecu> great, thanks.
[15:09] <fagan> if you need another +1 I can look at it
[15:09] <dobey> i got it.
[15:09] <alecu> fagan, perhaps you can take a look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/changed-secrets-spec/+merge/57947
[15:09] <fagan> alecu: sure
[15:10] <fagan> linux review or windows or does it matter?
[15:10] <dobey> i think it's linux specific
[15:10] <fagan> cool ill do it in natty
[15:12] <dobey> alecu: care to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/59231 please? :)
[15:12] <alecu> sure
[15:13] <alecu> dobey, lp says "Text conflict in configure.ac"
[15:13] <dobey> wtf
[15:14] <dobey> oh
[15:14] <dobey> i am an idiot
[15:14] <dobey> alecu: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/59232 instead
[15:14] <fagan> alecu: +1
[15:16] <alecu> fagan, thanks. Would you mind field testing that branch?
[15:17] <fagan> sure so I just need to install the gnome 3 ppa and setup the branch like normal yep?
[15:22] <dobey> alecu: +1 on your assert branch
[15:23] <alecu> fagan, yes, and make sure you kill ubuntu-sso-client before doing it.
[15:24] <fagan> alecu: yep was planning on it :)
[15:24] <alecu> fagan, also: try it without installing the branch first, so we know it breaks successfully.
[15:24] <alecu> "successfully"
[15:24]  * fagan forgot to kill sso last time 
[15:31] <fagan> alecu: working
[15:31] <fagan> feel free to merge it
[15:31] <alecu> fagan, cool. And did it fail the first time?
[15:33] <fagan> alecu: I had it already installed but I presume it would fail because its trying to access it in a way that the keyring in the repo doesnt like
[15:34] <fagan> alecu: im guessing but I can roll it back and break it if needs be :D
[15:34] <fagan> but it definitely works
[15:34] <alecu> ok, cool
[15:36] <nigelb> fagan: did I show you the wwiki after I inserted your name?
[15:36] <fagan> nigelb: nope?
[15:36] <nigelb> dammit
[15:36] <fagan> Oh I might have looked at it myself
[15:36] <nigelb> The wiki doesn't seem to have your session, but I remember putting you on.
[15:37] <fagan> nigelb: maybe someone else was editing when you added me
[15:37] <fagan> so the diff would have gotten pushed down
[15:37] <nigelb> less likely, but anyway, now we have only 2 free session, you gotta pick one, and I owe you a drink :\
[15:38] <fagan> oh no someone took the time I wanted :(
[15:38] <fagan> ill take the one on tuesday at 1700
[15:38] <nigelb> okay
[15:38] <alecu> dobey, approved the Makefile.am branch.
[15:39] <nigelb> fagan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable
[15:39] <fagan> hehe
[15:39]  * nigelb still puzzled how I missed it last night. Sigh.
[15:39] <dobey> alecu: cheers
[15:40] <fagan> nigelb: yeah im still working out the content
[15:40] <nigelb> fagan: \o/
[15:40] <fagan> nigelb: I got some ideas already though
[15:40] <nigelb> man, whole load of openings in u1
[15:40] <dobey> anyone else want to give me a review? :)
[15:40] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/fix-debug-logging-16/+merge/59232
[15:40]  * fagan already has a plan to get the viewers to spam mandel with high fives for being awesome :P
[15:41] <fagan> dobey: I can do it if you want
[15:41] <mandel> wait what?
[15:41] <mandel> me being spam, why?
[15:41] <fagan> mandel: nothing :D
[15:42] <fagan> mandel: for being the one man army bringing u1 to the land of windows
[15:42] <fagan> (was kidding though)
[15:42] <mandel> oh well, I'm a big man :P
[15:42] <fagan> dobey: so I just need to build it and see if it doesnt complain?
[15:45] <dobey> uh sure, i guess
[15:51] <fagan> dobey: ok working and didnt complain
[15:51] <fagan> so approved
[16:02] <alecu> doh.
[16:03] <alecu> I've just checked my gmail account, and there's a mail from ralsina saying he had to run some unexpected errands this morning. doh.
[16:04] <mandel> ok, so we can stop worrying
[16:08] <dobey> and love the bomb
[16:26] <dobey> bbiab, lunch
[17:31] <rye> dobey, will there be any more ubuntuone-client releases before tomorrow?
[17:32] <rye> aand ping nessita
[17:32] <rye> but i can't ping her, since she's not here
[17:38] <dobey> rye: yes
[17:38] <rye> dobey, are the changes already available through lp?
[17:39] <dobey> rye: should be, yes
[17:46] <nessita> hola gente
[17:55] <mandel> nessita: hola! mpt was after you a wile back
[17:55] <mandel> fagan: ping?
[17:55] <nessita> mandel: hey there, thanks!
[17:56] <nessita> mpt: you were looking for me?
[17:58] <ralsina> alecu: sorry for mailing the wrong place. It turns out I have some minor tax problems (wrong paperwork) and I will be gone most of the day, beyond what I expected :-(
[17:59] <nessita> ralsina: hey there. Do we have a time set for the blueprint meeting?
[17:59] <ralsina> nessita: honestly? I am going to be around 1 hour and after that I have no idea when I will be back
[18:00] <ralsina> I have to fix this or I won't be allowed to leave the country next week, and that would kinda suck ;-)
[18:00] <nessita> ralsina: do we have a deadline? can we postpone it to tomorrow?
[18:00] <ralsina> tomorrow early
[18:00] <ralsina> let's set it fr 9AM ART? Can you make a google appointment and invite everyone?
[18:01] <nessita> ralsina: yes, I can. I f we do it tomorrow, are we in time for creating blueprints?
[18:01] <dobey> rye: why?
[18:02] <rye> dobey, setting up a fresh natty machine to see how everything works
[18:02] <ralsina> yes, I think so. As long as we have them by late friday they are ok
[18:03] <dobey> rye: oh. what did you mean by "available through lp" then?
[18:03] <nessita> ralsina: ack, I'll schedule it then
[18:03] <nessita> ralsina: I will set it to 10ART so USA people can make it at 9am their time
[18:03] <ralsina> nessita: cool
[18:03] <rye> dobey, well, the package itself, in a building form or a set of branches that should be merged to stable-1-6
[18:03] <nessita> so, basicaly, right after our stand up
[18:03] <dobey> 9AM ART?
[18:03] <dobey> yeah that is a bit too early
[18:03] <nessita> dobey: 10am ART
[18:03] <mandel> ralsina: Chipaca wanted a mumble with us, but I guess you cant
[18:03] <dobey> what is that in GMT?
[18:04] <nessita> dobey: 1pm
[18:04] <nessita> ok, I'll grab a bite now
[18:04] <dobey> ok
[18:04] <dobey> rye: ah, then no
[18:05]  * mandel walks the dog, might be back later
[18:13] <ralsina> mandel: well, I am in a bar
[18:13] <fagan> mandel: pong sorry was afk since my day was over
[18:14] <fagan> oh he is off
[18:14] <fagan> hey ralsina
[18:14] <ralsina> hi fagan
[18:17] <mpt> nessita, I was just wondering whether you would be interested in <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-system-settings>
[18:17] <mpt> at UDS
[18:18]  * fagan would be interested in that blueprint 
[18:21] <fagan> oh and ralsina am I allowed to conribute to any of the sessions that I want (im asking since it would be all within my work hours)
[18:22] <fagan> other than being at UDS ive never had a chance to get to all the ones ive been interested in
[18:22] <ralsina> fagan: I don't know of any requirements to join a session beyond wanting to be in it
[18:22] <ralsina> then again, *I* have never been at UDS so I have no idea if there is such a requirement ;-)
[18:23] <fagan> ralsina: well your allowed to go to whatever you want I just mean am I free to
[18:23] <ralsina> fagan: sure
[18:23] <fagan> cool
[18:23] <fagan> I just thought id ask rather than going AWOL for the entire week :P
[18:24] <fagan> id be around all week id just be listening in a lot and chatting to everyone in IRC at the sessions
[18:24] <ralsina> fagan: hahaha I expect reports anyway ;-)
[18:24] <fagan> ralsina: well id be learning in a way that id be talking with like half the company about their plans...etc
[18:25] <fagan> (in a completely non-annoying way :)
[18:25] <ralsina> fagan: feel free, just write about it later as usual and we're cool
[18:26] <fagan> ralsina: sure ive settled in on the writing up really long posts for the week and explaining stuff in detail
[18:26] <fagan> but for UDS id probably be doing a lot more general work so id be definitely doing one per day
[18:29] <dobey> ralsina, fagan: requirement is that for every session you attend, you must buy me beer.
[18:29] <fagan> dobey: im not going to be in person
[18:30] <dobey> fagan: i'll see if the bar accepts wire transfer as payment
[18:30] <fagan> so ill buy you a beer a drink it myself in ireland
[18:30] <ralsina> dobey, fagan: beer-over-wire tastes bad
[18:30] <dobey> worst case, they'll probably take paypal
[18:30] <fagan> dobey: well im sure I can get some courier to bring it
[18:30] <fagan> its not too far :D
[18:31] <dobey> you can just give me your debit card and PIN and i'll get it out the atm myself :)
[18:31] <fagan> dobey: yeah why not......no wait
[18:33] <fagan> ooooh and you know what would be fun if I could skype to the u1 sessions
[18:33] <fagan> all I need is someones computer
[18:33] <ralsina> fagan: the main problem is that you will only see the omputer owner's face
[18:33] <dobey> irc will be fine
[18:34] <dobey> there was discussion of a mumble server for UDS, but i think it would probably cause a lot of problems
[18:34] <fagan> dobey: for the 2 years ive remotely participated ive never enjoyed it
[18:34] <fagan> its a bit of a pain in the ass
[18:34] <dobey> fagan: trust me, you would hate skype and mumble even more
[18:34] <fagan> dobey: why?
[18:36] <fagan> bad internet?
[18:36] <dobey> fagan: because there probably isn't going to be enough bandwidth to handle all the people who would want to do it, and the speakers on someone's computer are probably not going to be loud enough
[18:36] <fagan> dobey: well its just little old me hehe
[18:36] <dobey> fagan: well you say that, and then everyone else starts doing it, and boom.
[18:36] <dobey> there goes the internets
[18:37] <fagan> dobey: yeah it wouldnt be good on mass but for specific people who can give a lot to a session it would be interesting
[18:38] <dobey> fagan: there is no way to make such a determination. you have no idea who may or may not be able to give a lot to a session
[18:39] <fagan> dobey: you havent been in a UDS session with me I talk a good lot.
[18:39] <nessita> dobey: hey there, did you understand last comment in bug #770379?
[18:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770379 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Recommends wrong version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770379
[18:39] <fagan> dobey: its cool though I get what you are saying
[18:40] <dobey> fagan: talking a lot doesn't necessarily mean that you are giving a lot to a session either. but what i meant is that you can't say that you and only you are going to have any valuable input in a session
[18:40] <dobey> nessita: the one from seb?
[18:40] <nessita> yeah
[18:40] <dobey> yes
[18:40] <fagan> dobey: well specifically I think I gave a good bit to the u1ms sessions over the years
[18:41] <fagan> thats where I met aquarius first if I remember right
[18:42] <fagan> dobey: anyway yeah I know specific sessions dont really mesure how good you are in all of the sessions
[18:42] <ralsina> fagan: I think dobey means that if someone is allowed to mumble in, everyone will be allowed because you can't say beforehand who should be allowed. And then it will suck.
[18:42] <dobey> fagan: that's fine, i'm not saying you did or didn't. i'm just saying that treating someone specially in that manner is only going to upset other remote people who think they have something of value
[18:42] <fagan> dobey: well thats a good point
[18:43] <dobey> either you participate locally, or you participate remotely the same way everyone else does.
[18:43] <dobey> otherwise it just creates problems, logistically and socially
[18:44] <fagan> yeah I just though team members could be given special privilages
[18:44] <fagan> I know what you mean though
[18:45] <dobey> gah, thunder. guess it's about to storm here
[18:46] <fagan> dobey: hide your internets before it takes it down
[18:47] <dobey> eh i will be fine
[19:22] <dobey> sigh
[19:23] <fagan> dobey: whats the problem
[19:23]  * fagan doesnt mind helping as long as its not being a lightning rod 
[19:25] <dobey> i am an idiot
[19:26] <fagan> dobey: I cant help with that other than trying to channel my wasted brain power to you telepathically
[19:26] <fagan> :D
[19:29] <dobey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyxXX3Ra4A is how i feel right now
[19:30]  * fagan moves ahead with the telepathic channeling of power to dobey 
[19:30] <fagan> dobey: do you feel the power!
[19:30] <dobey> MY BRAIN HURTS!
[19:31] <fagan> dobey: awh
[19:31]  * fagan stops the channeling since its going to make dobey's head explode :)
[19:37] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/no-config-data/+merge/59267
[19:38] <dobey> and https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/no-config-data-1-6/+merge/59268
[19:38] <dobey> i could use some reviews on those asap please ^^
[19:39]  * fagan could do it but if other people are around they can do it instead 
[19:41] <fagan> dobey: arent they the same change?
[19:41] <dobey> fagan: one is for stable-1-6 series
[19:41] <fagan> ooooooh
[19:41] <fagan> dobey: does it need testing?
[19:41] <fagan> it seems trivial
[19:42] <dobey> not especially
[19:42] <fagan> i can +1 now then
[19:42] <dobey> alecu, nessita, ralsina, anyone else? ^^
[19:43] <nessita> sure
[19:43] <dobey> thanks
[20:06] <dobey> re nessita, thisfred
[20:07] <thisfred> yeah, power outages again here
[20:07] <nessita> dobey: yes?
[20:07] <thisfred> must be windy
[20:07] <dobey> nessita: you left/joined
[20:07] <nessita> dobey: yes, internet issues here. Your branches, approved.
[20:07] <nessita> dobey: did I miss something?
[20:07] <dobey> nessita: great, thanks
[20:07] <dobey> nessita: no, i was just saying welcome back
[20:08] <nessita> ah! thanks
[20:21] <dobey>     test_app_name_is_stored ... ./run-tests: line 41: 16942 Floating point exception`which xvfb-run` u1trial "$MODULE" -i "test_windows.py, test_qt_views.py"
[20:21] <dobey> awesome
[21:45] <nessita> dobey: my ubuntuone-client-gnome in uninstalled! and I'm 90% sure I had it
[21:45] <nessita> (but no 100%)
[21:47] <dobey> uhm, ok
[21:47] <dobey> would love to know why :)
[21:47] <nessita> right
[21:48] <nessita> dobey: this is what I have:
[21:48] <nessita>     146 Start-Date: 2011-04-07  17:38:01
[21:48] <nessita>     147 Purge: ubuntuone-client-gnome:amd64 (1.5.8+r946~natty1)
[21:48] <nessita>     148 End-Date: 2011-04-07  17:38:08
[21:48] <nessita> dobey: I don't remember purging that
[21:50] <dobey> that was a while ago
[21:51] <nessita> right
[21:51] <nessita> we were sprinting back then
[21:51] <dobey> are you sure you didn't purge it? so you wouldn't have the nautilus issue that you still haven't tested my branch for?
[21:51] <nessita> who knows, maybe I purge it to test something?
[21:51] <dobey> i don't know
[21:52] <dobey> but i don't think there's enough information there to tell us anything. and i am pretty sure apt doesn't purge by itself
[21:52] <dobey> you have to tell it to -remove -purge
[21:52] <dobey> err, remove --purge
[21:52] <dobey> my typing is fail
[21:53] <nessita> dobey: right. Ok let's blame me this time ;-) (makes sense)
[22:17] <dobey> cheers all