[03:02] <subpar> quick ? - using putty and trying to install sun-java6-jre -- can't figure how to accept the liscene agreement
[03:02] <subpar> enter doesn't work
[03:02] <subpar> google hasn't helped either
[03:03] <Unit193> Did you press tab or left?
[03:03]  * subpar slaps himself
[03:03] <subpar> Unit193: cheers for that
[03:04] <Unit193> If it doesn't work, you can always just start banging on the keyboard ;)
[03:04] <subpar> I was about to that point
[03:44] <LQL> quest: my update mgr is 'recommending' a load of KDE software ..... should i load it or ignore it?
[03:45] <LQL> it seems to be redundant software
[05:55] <jimcake> i got the livecd in virtualbox, xubuntu 11.04. it says other. i click there and it asks for username and then password. does anyone know what it is? thx!
[11:56] <tomtit> hello everyone?
[11:57] <TheSheep> !hi
[11:57] <tomtit> TheSheep: hi
[11:58] <tomtit> oh well byeeeeee!
[11:58] <knome> ugh?
[11:59] <TheSheep> apparently he didn't like the channel guidelines :)
[12:00] <knome> :)
[12:00] <knome> or then he was just wayyy too hasty
[12:01] <TheSheep> mayfly
[12:01] <TheSheep> may is soon
[12:02] <knome> heh, yeah..
[13:15] <ArisVer> Hi, a question about the root account. Why it is not advisable to login as root?
[13:17] <bazhang> !sudo
[13:18] <ArisVer> Thanx bazhang , that is not what i asked...
[13:18] <knome> it is not advisable to use root account, since ubuntu has sudo, which is safer
[13:19] <ArisVer> In what way is safer? Apart from learning typing.!
[13:20] <knome> with root account, any kind of exploits are easier, with sudo you will think if the thing you typed is exactly what you wanted
[13:20] <bazhang> sudo -i for a root shell if you must
[13:21] <jgratero> I'm trying to edit the submenus' icons, from the menu applications
[13:21] <ArisVer> exploits? It is still the same outcome.
[13:21] <knome> ArisVer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:22] <bazhang> ArisVer, better to check the links
[13:22] <knome> ArisVer, as was linked to in what bazhang gave you
[13:22] <ArisVer> I will.
[13:22] <bazhang> as it *does* in fact address the issue
[13:22] <jgratero> the "education" submenu shows a missing icon
[13:23] <ArisVer> jgratero, do you know the application?
[13:23] <jgratero> and the "accesories" submenu shows the icon the "education" submenu should show
[13:23] <jgratero> it's not the an application per se
[13:24] <jgratero> I know how to change the icons, from the .desktop file
[13:25] <jgratero> you know the submenus, education, graphics, network, multimedia
[13:25] <bazhang> jgratero, what version
[13:25] <jgratero> 10.10
[13:26] <jgratero> let me show you a screenshot
[13:41] <jgratero> can't take a screenshot
[13:47] <jgratero> sorry, it's the desktop directories
[13:47] <jgratero> it's this bug
[13:47] <jgratero> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/garcon/+bug/392290
[13:52] <jgratero> It says is solved, but, I do have the problem with 10.10
[13:57] <jgratero> Anobody?
[13:57] <jgratero> Anybody?
[13:58] <charlie-tca> education is missing an icon?
[13:58] <knome> icon is missing education?
[14:00] <jgratero> Thanks anyway
[16:20] <MK``> Where do I edit keyboard settings in Xubuntu?
[16:21] <Sysi> menu → settings → keyboard
[16:21] <zenrox> i was just going to say that
[16:23] <MK``> Hm where are the touchpad settings>
[16:23] <zenrox> menu settings mouse
[16:24] <TheSheep> you can also instal gsynaptics for more options
[16:24] <TheSheep> !info gsynaptics
[16:27] <bittin> is the new Xubuntu arriving tommorow?
[16:28] <MK``> In Xubuntu it has clicking enabled by doubletapping the pad, I wanted to disable that :P
[16:29] <TheSheep> MK``: gsynaptics lets you disable tapping
[16:36] <mitchell> hi im new to xubuntu and need help
[16:36] <zenrox> what do ya need?
[16:36] <Souperman> hello, so i had to install gnome-screensaver and gnome-power-manager in order to totem avoiding the screensaver poping up while im watching movies, but now i dont have a screensaver setting option on the programs menu, i can launch it from a terminal, but i need it to be on the menu because not all the people who uses this pc knows how to terminals, so is there a way to add the gnome-screensaver-preferences to the menu? or better to make totem not loa
[16:36] <Souperman> ding the screensaver when playing movies whitout installing the gnome apps?
[16:37] <zenrox> ya add it to the menu using menu editor
[16:38] <mitchell> i installed xubuntu on a windows 7 machine and only gave xubuntu 15 gb of my 250 gb hd can i add more space easily or do i have to create another partition im also new to partitions
[16:38] <zenrox> yes technal you can by shrinking win7 partion and expanding ubuntus partion
[16:39] <zenrox> and you could creat a new partion to add more that way too
[16:39] <Souperman> or he could "share" the win7 partition whit xubuntu
[16:39] <charlie-tca> zenrox: no menu editor in Xubuntu
[16:39] <zenrox> thare use to be
[16:39] <Souperman> i found it
[16:40] <charlie-tca> used, could, should, still doesn't exist
[16:40] <Souperman> its called "menu principal"
[16:40] <Souperman> i have it bro
[16:40] <mitchell> is there a program to use to do this or a website with instructions i hate to be a bother to you and if i can read it i can do it
[16:40] <charlie-tca> !partitions
[16:40] <zenrox> mitchell, gparted
[16:41] <charlie-tca> Those links should help to expand the existing partition, too
[16:42] <mitchell> ok awesome thanks i love xubuntu linux ppl are way more friendly and helpful
[16:43] <Souperman> hey zenrox i have to reboot xfce for the changes to the menu apply?
[16:43] <zenrox> no just log out
[16:44] <Souperman> done that, no luck :/
[16:44] <zenrox> hmm
[16:44] <MK``> Xubuntu's desktop is nice :o this is my first time trying it
[16:44] <MK``> GNOME exploded so I am here to fix it lol
[16:46] <Souperman> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[16:47] <zenrox> Souperman, let me do some searching
[16:47] <Souperman> oh great that menu editor was for gnome
[16:47] <charlie-tca> of course. Xubuntu does not have a menu editor, because Xfce 4.6 does not have the capability to use a menu editor
[16:48] <zenrox> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[16:48] <zenrox> tray that
[16:48] <Souperman> you where correct charlie-tca i apologize for not believing you
[16:48] <MK``> Yeah I had edited my menu in GNOME and had to find the keyboard settings etc. where I moved it :P
[16:48] <drc> Souperman: I believe that the gnome menu editor is there because it's required for the Software Center...iirc
[16:49] <MK``> the gnome menu editor is buggy, mind you
[16:52] <Souperman> D:
[16:53] <greenmang0> i just installed xfce / xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu ... how to get rid of gnome desktop?
[16:53] <Souperman> gods this is awful i cant figure out what file keeps the settings
[16:53] <Souperman> greenmang0, you need the space?
[16:53] <greenmang0> Souperman, i just don't want GNOME
[16:53] <Souperman> XD
[16:53] <drc> Souperman: read that URL that zenrox sent you, it will explain the convoluted process that is xfce menus :)
[16:54] <greenmang0> guys ... any pointers?
[16:54] <Souperman> im trying drc thats why im saying i cant figure out, one file send me to another that sends me to another ...
[16:54] <drc> Souperman: yup :(
[16:54] <greenmang0> drc, can you please help?
[16:55] <drc> greenmang0: re-install
[16:55] <charlie-tca> um, the gnome menu editor is there because the person installed gnome, and xfce desktops or applications
[16:55] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu really doesn't install it
[16:55] <greenmang0> drc, what do you mean? i don't want gnome ...
[16:56] <charlie-tca> !purexfce | greenmang0
[16:57] <charlie-tca> Souperman: I will give you three ways to edit the menus, but the easiest way is to add .desktop file to ~/.local/applications
[16:58] <charlie-tca> Souperman:
[16:58] <charlie-tca> 1. [for 4.6] copy '/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and customize it.
[16:58] <charlie-tca> 2. [for 4.6] You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones.
[16:58] <charlie-tca> 3. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[16:59] <Souperman> im reading that wiki but it doesnt make any sense
[16:59] <charlie-tca> Souperman: you can copy the .desktop files from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications
[16:59] <drc> charlie-tca: please explain...<something> installs it in a fresh xubuntu (10.10 and 11.04) install.  When I try to delete it, it says I must remove the Software Center as well.
[17:00] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:00] <charlie-tca> then you can add software center back again.
[17:00] <hunger__> hey all
[17:00] <hunger__> think i just had a kernal panic, and xubuntu crashed (11.04) whie moving windows between workstations, how can i debug this?
[17:00] <charlie-tca> the way the dependencies are set up, it is required to be removed with xubuntu- something
[17:01] <charlie-tca> but you can install Software Center without reinstalling xubuntu-desktop
[17:01] <hunger__> figured i may as well help to debug it and report it if it's a bug... i was on xubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to xfce 4.8(?) prior to going to 11.04
[17:01] <greenmang0> charlie-tca, thanks
[17:01] <charlie-tca> It will not be a valid bug, since 4.8 is not supported on Xubuntu 10.10
[17:01] <charlie-tca> greenmang0: You are welcome
[17:02] <charlie-tca> hunger__: it is invalid
[17:02] <hunger__> charlie, gotcha, i'm thinking i should just do a fresh install of xubuntu, who knows what i've b0rked in the years of tinkering w/ this install :D
[17:03] <charlie-tca> I agree with that
[17:03] <drc> charlie-tca: nah..I'll leave it (I was just wondering about your statement "<charlie-tca> Xubuntu really doesn't install it"...Heck, I still have Totem on the machine because removing it plays heck with trying to re-assign "open with" in Thunar :(
[17:03] <Souperman> ^
[17:03] <charlie-tca> drc: not meant for software center, meant for any menu editor in xubuntu since about 8.04
[17:04] <Souperman> thats why im trying to make totem work nice whit the screensavers
[17:04] <charlie-tca> I use parole for movies, before that I used vlc, since totem has too many issues to play nice
[17:05] <mitchell> ok new question im using xfce is there a difference in it and gnome and can i use programs universally between the two
[17:05] <drc> VLC here
[17:05] <charlie-tca> mitchell: yes, there is difference. they are two different desktop environments
[17:05] <charlie-tca> !de
[17:05] <charlie-tca> well
[17:06] <charlie-tca> !xfce
[17:06] <charlie-tca> !gnome
[17:06] <charlie-tca> mitchell: yes, you should be able to use any application in the repositories/Software Center with Xubuntu and Xfce
[17:06] <charlie-tca> If it is capable, it will even appear in both sets of menus
[17:07] <Souperman> :( i added gnome-screensaver-preferences.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications and it does nothing
[17:07] <hunger__> thx for the help charlie, i'm gonna do a backup and rebuild...
[17:07] <charlie-tca> Souperman: edit the file now and add XFCE to it where it says "only in gnome"
[17:07] <charlie-tca> or remove the only in .... line
[17:08] <Souperman> oooo... lol i was just reading it and i saw that option XD
[17:08] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:08] <mitchell> what about programs i find online that are advertised for gnome and dont mention xfce
[17:08] <charlie-tca> It is not as easy as Ubuntu, but a lot more fun
[17:08] <charlie-tca> mitchell: if they are not in the official repositories, it is a guess.
[17:09] <mitchell> ok thanks
[17:09] <charlie-tca> I would not recommend installing them. Please check first to see if it is packaged for Ubuntu repositories
[17:09] <Souperman> okay, good, but i still have the other screensaver app showing up
[17:09] <mitchell> ok
[17:10] <charlie-tca> Did you remove xscreensaver?
[17:10] <Souperman> well no
[17:10] <charlie-tca> then it should show up
[17:10] <Souperman> so i can remove it whitout problems rite
[17:10] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get purge xscreensaver    will remove it, then a logout/login will get rid of the menu entries for it
[17:11] <charlie-tca> no
[17:11] <Souperman> purge or auto-remove?
[17:11] <knome> sudo apt-get remove --purge xscreensaver
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu does not include the gnome-screensaver because it doesn't work well for us
[17:11] <charlie-tca> the remove --purge == purge
[17:11] <charlie-tca> now, new changes to apt-get
[17:11] <knome> right
[17:12] <charlie-tca> hey, knome !
[17:12] <knome> hey charlie-tca
[17:12] <charlie-tca> 1 day to Xubuntu 11.04 release!
[17:12] <knome> i suppose the changes are good, as long as they don't start throwing in too many aliases
[17:12] <knome> mm-hmm
[17:12] <Souperman> charlie-tca, but xubuntu comes whit totem wich does not work well whit xscreensaver
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I haven't had any issues with just using purge. It seems to work the same
[17:13] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:13] <charlie-tca> nothing really works well with totem, too. That's why we moved to parole
[17:13] <Souperman> parole?
[17:13] <charlie-tca> a lightweight movie player for Xfce
[17:14] <charlie-tca> !parole
[17:14] <Souperman> :) there now it works
[17:14] <charlie-tca> !info parole
[17:14] <knome> !info parole
[17:14]  * charlie-tca beat knome?
[17:14] <knome> yup
[17:14] <Souperman> its on 10.10? or 11.04?
[17:14] <knome> Souperman, should be on both, but it's default in 11.04
[17:15] <Souperman> oh i see, i just re-installed 10.04 a week ago because something on windows fucked up my main drives mbr so...
[17:16] <knome> Souperman, please watch your language, we try to keep the channel family-friendly
[17:16] <Souperman> oh, sorry, i apologize
[17:16] <knome> no problem
[17:16] <Souperman> :( there is no parole for 10.04
[17:17] <knome> really?
[17:17] <Souperman> yes, apt-get doesnt find it
[17:17] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:17] <charlie-tca> it wasn't available until 10.10
[17:17] <knome> right...
[17:17] <charlie-tca> I used VLC in 10.40
[17:18] <charlie-tca> 10.04
[17:18] <knome> 10.40? is that a space-age xubuntu?
[17:18] <Souperman> i have it to but it doesnt integrates well whit open whit... options
[17:18] <knome> does it have blue or some other color wallpaper?
[17:18] <charlie-tca> that's even better than 10.04!
[17:20] <charlie-tca> anything else knome can help you with today?   :-)
[17:21] <charlie-tca> he knows more of this stuff about music and movies than me...
[17:21] <knome> hmm.. at least about using all your money to buy music
[17:22]  * charlie-tca hasn't bought a movie or cd in at least two years now
[17:22] <zenrox> 7 years here
[17:22] <knome> 4 days since i bought my last cd...
[17:23] <charlie-tca> zenrox: to be clear, Xubuntu 11.04 can use the menu editors again.
[17:23] <charlie-tca> We been waiting a long time to get that back in Xfce
[17:24] <zenrox> but that dont have a native one ??
[17:24] <charlie-tca> nope
[17:24] <zenrox> looks like i am going to have to learn programming
[17:24] <zenrox> and write one
[17:24] <charlie-tca> since the menus are based on freedesktop.org standards/guides, they figured alacarte was good
[17:24] <charlie-tca> I don't remember if they have one planned for 4.10
[17:25] <zenrox> i hope thay do
[17:25] <zenrox> it would make editing menus so much nicer
[17:25] <Souperman> the whole xfce interface could benefit a lot whit good customization options
[17:26] <charlie-tca> options exist, they are just hard to find, sometimes
[17:26] <zenrox> or you forget whare thay are
[17:29] <zenrox> i happend to fine another menu editor gmenu-simple-editor
[17:30] <zenrox> tho it dont let you creat new entrys
[17:31] <Souperman> question, xubuntu 11.04 will come whit that awful tablet interface ubuntu will come whit too?
[17:31] <ArisVer> Removed gnumeric. The icon is still there.
[17:31] <zenrox> Souperman, no
[17:31] <Souperman> thanks gods
[17:32] <zenrox> Souperman, that other one your talking about = unity
[17:33] <Souperman> yes unity, i mean if you have a tablet pc go for it, but for a desktop?
[17:33] <Sysi> it isn't that bad, if they got compiz less-crashy
[17:34] <Sysi> but i generally like xfce more
[17:34] <Souperman> ^
[17:35] <Souperman> i have liked xfce more since like 2000's
[17:35] <Souperman> XD
[17:35] <charlie-tca> ArisVer: normally needs a logout/login to fix the menu after removign
[17:36] <drc> I spent the last couple of days looking/playing a...all...t/with Unity...it's gotten much better...stable...NO crashes at all...Figured out most most of what I needed to know to make it work (and it does work as advertised).  But decided that Unity was not for me.
[17:37] <ArisVer> Thank u charlie.
[17:37] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:37] <charlie-tca> drc: overall, though, the environment does work.
[17:37] <charlie-tca> It will evolve in Ocelot, too.
[17:38] <drc> charlie-tca: Absolutely...and works well, too
[17:38] <knome> as in shore up?
[17:38] <Sysi> xfce is too smooth, i had to put KDE to this desktop for exitement :G
[17:39]  * drc thinks Sysi is just a hedonist at heart
[17:39] <knome> Sysi, are you sure you don't have any other self-desctructive thoughts than installing kde?
[17:39] <Sysi> i maybe will try gnome3 too..
[17:40] <drc> !wake for Sysi
[17:41] <Sysi> i'm kinda useless for LoCo since i don't use basic ubuntu, but it just sucks :/
[17:41] <Souperman> kde is like the most awful gui since vista
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Sysi: just be aware, normally removing gnome3 requires a complete reinstall
[17:42] <knome> sounds like kde4.0
[17:42] <knome> :P
[17:42] <Sysi> charlie-tca: with unity or with anything?
[17:42] <drc> Sysi: If you want to look at gnome3, try the Fedora15beta liveCD
[17:42] <Sysi> everything sucks quite badly with default setup, xfce is easiest to set up, kde has more options but it still lacks some
[17:42] <charlie-tca> Once you install gnome3 from the ppa, it can not be removed properly
[17:43] <charlie-tca> There is no way yet to get rid of gnome3, and it does take over the OS.
[17:44] <Sysi> drc: i maybe will update to F15 completely, netbook stays xubuntu natty as it's the best
[17:45] <Sysi> i *could* test if jockey works properly on natty before it..
[17:45]  * drc may be a heretic, but he thinks he likes gnome3 better than Unity, although Unity is more polished.
[17:48] <charlie-tca> choices are good
[17:48] <Souperman> i haven't tried unity yet, but if there is something i don't like is options being taken from me, thats why i hated so much the win7 interface
[17:49] <Souperman> and the ff4 using that stupid orange menu, and why i will never use chrome
[17:52] <ArisVer> Logged out , the icon is there. Restarted , the icon is there. Btw, thanks for mentioning the gsynaptics before. Exactly what i needed.
[17:53] <MK``> is Xubuntu 11.04 on schedule? :D
[17:53] <MK``> I am looking forward to using it on an older PC of mine
[17:54] <ArisVer> Can you tell me the way to remove the icon manually?
[17:54] <Souperman> ArisVer, i had to edit the menu a few moments ago, check  ~/.local/share/applications                and see if there is a mention to gnumeric, if there is one delete it
[17:55] <Souperman> also http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[17:55] <zenrox> ArisVer, or check /usr/local/applications
[17:56] <zenrox> i mean /usr/local/share/applications
[17:57] <ArisVer> None there for Souperman. And none for zerox. I do not see an applications folder anywhere.
[17:57] <Souperman> its hidden
[17:57] <Souperman> thats why it has a dot
[17:58] <ArisVer> I Ctrl+H.
[17:58] <Souperman> then there has to be
[17:58] <Souperman> .local
[17:58] <Souperman> then share then applications
[17:59] <Souperman> do thunar ~/.local/share/applications
[18:00] <ArisVer> In .local i have 4 folders. notes, totem, vinagre, webkit.
[18:00] <ArisVer> That is .local/share
[18:01] <Souperman> and on /usr/local/share/applications
[18:02] <Souperman> oh no! is /usr/share/applications
[18:03] <ArisVer> It is in user/share/applications. I see many icons. Delete Gnumeric?
[18:03] <Souperman> i think thats what you want to do yes, to be safe just move it somewhere else so you can restore it if things go bad
[18:04] <ArisVer> I install again if i need it. Highly doubt this .
[18:05] <Souperman> charlie-tca
[18:06] <Souperman> ArisVer, you did sudo apt-get purge gnumeric
[18:06] <Souperman> ?
[18:06] <ArisVer> Yes.
[18:06] <charlie-tca> yup, delete it then
[18:06] <Souperman> there, he knows
[18:07] <ArisVer> About gsynaptics. When i restarted , the touchpad was enabled again.
[18:07] <ArisVer> (The icon went back to Ubuntu database)
[18:12] <ArisVer> In usr/share/applications i see icon 'Remote Desktop Viewer' twice. Have not drink.
[18:12] <c_27> hello out there
[18:14] <drc> There's no one here but us grues....
[18:15] <ubuntu> hello out there
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Hello
[18:16] <drc> There's no one here but us grues...and we're getting closer.
[18:16] <charlie-tca> !hi
[18:16] <ubuntu> is there anybody german-speaking? (my english is not su good)
[18:17] <pleia2> !de
[18:17] <ArisVer> My xfce is version 4.6.1 Is that normal? Iinstall 10.04lts and is fully updated.
[18:17] <charlie-tca> ArisVer: yes, for 10.04
[18:18] <ArisVer> brb, fetch cofe, !coffee.
[18:18] <ubuntu> danke :)
[18:23] <ArisVer> Back. gsynaptics. I restarted and the touchpad tapping was enabled again. How/where fix?
[18:32] <drc> ArisVer: I personally don't know your answer, I'd start here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493758
[18:33] <ArisVer> I'm reading 241807 now
[18:34] <drc> Ok, the URL I gave is a How-To, rather than a "I have a problem" though :)
[18:35] <ArisVer> drc, your link looks better, no answer on the other one.
[18:37] <ArisVer> But before i continue, how to i make the letters bigger in mozilla? I set at Edit-->Preferences-->Content increased number and the letters stayed the same. I'm on Ubuntu machine now.
[18:37] <charlie-tca> Ctrl+plus key
[18:38] <charlie-tca> Ctrl++ bigger, Ctrl+- smaller
[18:38] <ArisVer> Better and quicker!!!
[18:43] <ArisVer> I post for Xubuntu. I gey /usr/share/themes/NOX/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:233: Murrine configuration option "gradients" is no longer supported and will be ignored. In terminal after a sudo mousepad command. I think i saw this while doing some updating.
[18:43] <ArisVer> I get...
[18:44] <ArisVer> Thats a backround screen, right? It was replaced yestarday.
[18:44] <charlie-tca> ArisVer: not a problem, that is just an advisory message
[18:48] <ArisVer> drc, are you in that page?
[18:49] <drc> what page?
[18:49] <ArisVer> The one you post a link to.
[18:49] <drc> I am now :)
[18:50] <ArisVer> In the second square, editing xorg.conf, i have nothing listed there.
[18:50] <ArisVer> Just an empty white page.
[18:51] <drc> ArisVer: Usually that means that X is doing a good job of figuring out what it needs without one.  You can just make one, and it will add what you put there to the X startup.
[18:51] <ArisVer> Ok.
[18:52] <ArisVer> I expected to find at least something in from the setup.
[18:53] <drc> So did I, but X has come a long way since the early days, and now can usually figure out what it needs without your interference :)
[18:54] <ArisVer> Is it good to save the file? as a backup?
[18:54] <drc> I ALWAYS save a copy of any config file that I edit.
[18:55] <drc> Usually same name.ORIGINAL or name.DTG
[18:56] <ArisVer> Need to get some cdrs...or with a usb on another hd.
[18:58] <ArisVer> Are u still in that page?
[18:58] <drc> I have 1@160gig HDD(internal), 1@500gig USB HDD (for video/audio), 1@40gig USB HDD (data archive)and 2@8gig USBsticks (working saves).  I rarely use cd/dvd's anymore, unless I want triple backup
[18:59] <drc> yes
[18:59] <ArisVer> count 6 boxes. ServerLayout
[19:00] <drc> yes
[19:00] <ArisVer> I have 4 hds, internal, a 250, a 30 a 5 and a ONEGB ;) MIght install a dvdrw instead of the 1GB.
[19:01] <ArisVer> Do i copy all the lines in xorg?
[19:02] <drc> ArisVer: AS I said, I am not a X or synaptics expert, I just found that page as a start for your problem. Maybe someone that has more knowledge of X can help
[19:02] <ArisVer> It says adding a line, but only one line , would it make sense?
[19:02] <ArisVer> I thought you were. Anyways you must be a lot better than i.
[19:03] <drc> It looks like it's assuming you already have a xorg.conf
[19:03] <drc> what is your video card?
[19:04] <ArisVer> I'm not a gamer, used to play 10 years ago. A 32MB nVidia.
[19:04] <drc> Are you using the nvidia proprietar drive ?
[19:05] <drc> driver, that is
[19:06] <ArisVer> Yes, this is my main rig, updated drivers from Administration-->Additional drivers, Ubuntu 10.10
[19:06] <ArisVer> It did made difference.
[19:08] <ArisVer> I also have an external usb 40GB hd, mainly for backup. And a 4GB usb stick. Theses and the laptop were my brothers , and he did not want them anymore. Lucky me.
[19:11] <drc> ok, then if you don't have a xorg.conf already, then maybe you can make one with nvidia-config  "sudo nvidia-xconfig"  This should give you a basic xorg.conf tailored to your system.  Read the resulting xorg.conf and then see what you need to modify to solve your touchpad problem.
[19:15] <ArisVer> Some more info, even though it's off topic, sorry guys, but you may find this interesting, (also a blank page for ubuntu), i used computers from 1994 until 2002. Then i had a loong break. This year i started again, because i'm bored doing nothing, and because it's fun and useful.
[19:16] <drc> Lunchtime !!!! bbl
[19:50] <ArisVer> Well, i just finished the tutorial, it looks a bit complex, covers everything for the touchpad, and it's a trial to find the settings you like. But not right now, i'll have an early night tonight.
[19:55] <ArisVer> So, goodnight to all and fairwell, thank you for your support.
[20:32] <mitchell> what are the advantages to ubuntu vs xubuntu
[20:34] <charlie-tca> xubuntu has nicer colors
[20:34] <Sysi> they're different, xubuntu may lack something but it uses less ram
[20:35] <charlie-tca> xubuntu is lighter; needs less ram, less hard disk, less cpu
[20:35] <charlie-tca> xubuntu does not have to have a hardware video driver to look good
[20:35] <mitchell> so xubuntu runs faster
[20:35] <charlie-tca> No, I did not say that
[20:36] <mitchell> what is it missing to make it lighter
[20:36] <charlie-tca> gnome
[20:36] <pleia2> it's also more customizable (my favorite thing about it, I have 3 clocks in my panel, with 3 time zones!)
[20:36] <charlie-tca> I run Orage world clock, with 18 time zones, as a small panel on every workspace
[20:37] <charlie-tca> mitchell: why should it be missing anything?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> I have not found anything I can't do with Xubuntu that I can do in Ubuntu
[20:37] <mitchell> how is it lighter without missing something
[20:37] <charlie-tca> xfce is not gnome
[20:38] <Sysi> it's different, try
[20:38] <Sysi> you can have both desktops
[20:39] <mitchell> right im running xubuntu on my windows laptop and love it havent used windows in months just wondering what else there is and if its better
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Unlike Windows, where you have a single operating system. linux has many to choose from. The major desktops in linux are KDE, Gnome, and Xfce.
[20:39] <Sysi> i started with xubuntu because i had too little ram, i got more and was disappointed with gnome
[20:40] <charlie-tca> They are different applications and programs to do the same thing.
[20:41] <charlie-tca> I started with Ubuntu, and then tried Xubuntu. Xubuntu allows me more opportunity to configure it the way I want to.
[20:41] <mitchell> i have a 1.6 ghz atom processor 1 gb ram and 250 gb hd what os should i use i dont care about appearance only speed and variety of programs
[20:42] <charlie-tca> I don't know how much difference in speed you would see.
[20:42] <Sysi> if you like xubuntu, just use it
[20:43] <Sysi> you can install ubuntu-desktop if you want and login to that
[20:43] <mitchell> ok thanks
[20:45] <charlie-tca> You are using a virtualbox now, just create a second one and try Ubuntu on it's own
[20:46] <charlie-tca> or, is that a wubi installation?
[21:21] <Sakuragno> hallo
[21:21] <Sakuragno> is there anybody should help me with wireless problem?
[21:21] <charlie-tca> !hi | Sakuragno
[21:42] <zenrox> i guess he dint what his wifi fixed
[21:44] <mitchell> i think its a wubi installation it is a separate partition
[21:44] <drc> or it fixed itself automagically
[21:44] <mitchell> ive never used a virtual machine before i have one just never messed with it
[21:50] <charlie-tca> mitchell: if it is has an entry in windows add/remove programs, it is wubi. Otherwise, it is a separate installation
[22:05] <Porys> so what time does 11.04 come out?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> anytime on April 28 in the UTC timezone
[22:32] <drc> You know...one of the first things I do/did on install (of any distro) was change the theme to something i'm familiar with...never gave greybird/greybird a chance...it's kinda nice, with the appropriate desktop background.
[23:39] <KM0201> what would be a reason i can't right click my desktop?
[23:39] <KM0201> and get any menu, etc.
[23:43] <drc> Settings>Desktop>Menus>Show applications menu....
[23:43] <drc> This checked?