[00:00] pace_t_zulu, is better to wait for final, till. there are testing isos everyday _testing_ [00:00] my gksudo gedit error: http://pastebin.com/eJvnTHxL [00:00] lcb: unless it's for the purposes of testing before the final [00:01] KM0201: I installed chromium daily ppa, firefox was miserable and the default chromium was also, but the daily is very good [00:02] itaylor57: lol, go figure, my experience has been exactly opposite, tons of probs out of chromium, firefox4 has been flawless [00:03] pace_t_zulu, sure. [00:03] dios_mio, but you get gedit working... [00:03] yes lcb [00:03] those type of errors are not new, even previous releases and with more apps [00:03] KM0201: maybe its my upgrade instead of fresh install [00:04] ok then lcb [00:04] itaylor57: possible.. who knows [00:04] pace_t_zulu, for gedit, gksudo or sudo--- gives the same [00:05] so ... anyone here successfully booted ubuntu from a usb drive on a macbook before? [00:05] KM0201, how is your Xubunatty? [00:05] lcb: slicker than snot.. :) [00:05] hehehe [00:06] whats the way now to create icons on the desktop? usually the icons had been in the Desktop dir [00:07] if I upgrade from 10.10, will it keep my gnome-panel setup? [00:08] bp0: probably will... but it is easy to backup your gnome panel setup [00:08] bp0: "gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel > gnome-panel-backup" [00:09] bp0: and then you can load it back [00:09] bp0: "gconftool-2 --load gnome-panel-backup [00:09] will it have the three menus or just the ubuntu logo menu from the alpha? [00:09] pace_t_zulu, http://goo.gl/cYOgK [00:11] you knjow one thing i've never understood. [00:11] lcb: ty ... great link [00:11] when i clean install ubuntu, and i enter my time/date settings.. i alway sput my home city.... (Indpls) [00:12] then when i actually install, and i check my clock, it ALWAYS sets my time to "America/Adak"... i don't even know what Adak is..lol [00:12] If I have natty beta installed will it automatically upgrade to final version after release? [00:12] or should I do a fresh install? [00:12] alokito: it will automatically upgrade to final [00:12] bp0, when you login you have an option to run under classical desktop, where you have the same panels [00:12] !current [00:12] hmm okay [00:13] !release [00:13] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [00:13] !beta [00:13] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [00:13] there we go. [00:13] alokito, just keep updating [00:13] alrite :) [00:13] :) [00:13] lcb, right buy classic desktop is not the same, the menus have changed, i prefer the existing style. will it be possible to keep it? [00:14] bp0: I guess you just have to make classic desktop the default DE? [00:14] bp0, backup all your /home including .files [00:15] if you wanna make it look like before you can just install old themes :-? [00:15] alokito, you have a lot of ways of configuring it, still [00:16] yup [00:17] alokito, i did an upgrade (besides fresh installs) and i don't recall changing a lot of my previous desktop [00:18] alokito, Unity, called now just _Ubuntu_ desktop yes, there are substantial changes. however you have the choice of keeping the previous desktop style [00:21] lcb: if ubuntu-desktop package is now unity then whats the classic desktop called? [00:21] For you two, one step is important; backup your /home [00:21] and /etc and /usr if you want... [00:22] alokito, Classic Desktop or Ubuntu Classic, one of those (i got amnesia after last login) :) [00:24] whats the package name I mean [00:25] btw... is lubuntu official now? [00:25] * KM0201 kinda forgot all about lubuntu [00:25] alokito, Ubuntu Classic, that's the name. [00:25] okay [00:25] lubuntu Has nice screencasts, apart from that, I know naught [00:26] I use lubuntu in my very old laptop [00:26] alokito, the package name for Ubuntu Classic'!... i have no clue, possible the gurus here know [00:26] it runs faster than any other full featured OS! [00:27] i cant enable desktop cube in classic desktop, without messing everything up and losing window borders [00:28] the moment it turns off desktop wall window borders are gone [00:28] alokito, i tried that a couple weeks ago and indeed is fast. but between that and installing the base system and some xfce environment... i don't know.. [00:29] alokito, DSL (Damn Small Linux) is really fast and damn small :) too bad is not developed anymore [00:30] a custom xfce DE might work faster but xubuntu-desktop isn't [00:30] it uses many packages from gnome [00:31] alokito, again, base system and a customized graphical environment.. is a good bet for a fast ubuntu (11.04) === Lorthirk is now known as Lorthirk`ZNC [00:31] !minimal [00:31] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:32] I like to play with puppy, on my ancestral machines. [00:32] also what i absolutely don't get why u is the one and only major linux distro that does NOT provide hybrid iso images. to fix em only isohybrid needs to be called on em, but thats not done [00:32] puppy is good [00:32] but I can't figure out how to netboot install anything else than ubuntu :( [00:33] alokito: maybe use memdisk and preload the iso [00:33] the optical drive of the laptop is ruined and it doesn't even support usb boot! [00:33] netinstall [00:33] Kano: good idea but it has only 256 mb memory :P [00:34] alokito: also plop can be installed into your mbr to boot from usb [00:34] internal hdd mbr? [00:34] well you chainload it first from any other bootloader, then you put it onto the internal mbr [00:35] ok I'll try that, thanks [00:35] all other systems should be installed with the bootloader in partition [00:35] is there any way to change system sounds in a comfortable way in natty? [00:35] it works well with via based systems [00:36] just try it, can be deleted easyly too [00:36] what also works is usually a boot from hd [00:37] when you have got enough spare partitions [00:37] i'm trying to develop a spray to 'spray' hard disks on computers without any media to install distros. but i'm running out of cans :I [00:38] lol [00:39] Kano, installing ubuntu (full - all drivers) on a friends computer, then moving that HD to your, works too [00:41] lcb: the drivers are in the kernel, thats not the big deal, you just should remove the persit udev rules: rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-* [00:41] lcb: i have a workaround [00:41] lcb: boot from the live cd with a usb drive plugged in [00:42] how do i set a partition to be mounted automatically like eg. D:\ drive in windows? [00:42] lcb: i trained the kanotix bot with lots of infos about that ;) [00:42] freaky[t]: you have to edit /etc/fstab [00:42] google it :) [00:43] freaky[t]: create an fstab entry. i only see a boot speed reason why this is not done by default. on kanotix every partition is mounted because it is more usefull for me (and most other users) [00:43] pace_t_zulu, yes, then the system finds one or the other, keeping the installation going [00:44] hello, can i update now, or do i have to wait until tomorrow? [00:44] freaky[t]: dont forget to create the mountpoint (an empty dir) [00:44] freaky[t]: if its an ntfs partition you can use ntfs-config package to automount it [00:44] S-M-Gl, you can but better wait [00:45] lcb: why, is the alpha the one currently online? [00:45] S-M-Gl: no its beta [00:45] its not much different from final release actually [00:46] alokito: right sorry, so the beta is the one online, until tomorrow? [00:46] there are daily snapshots too available, why are they not linked [00:46] S-M-Gl: yes till the official anounce [00:46] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [00:46] here's the ubuntu forum thread for anyone who needs it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458341 [00:46] zsync is really usefull for those [00:46] ok,thanks [00:46] i will be afk for a bit [00:46] the repo packages will probably get updated before the announcement... [00:47] S-M-Gl, wait a bit, is not too long for the release. [00:48] !isitout [00:48] No! Its not out yet! [00:48] :P [00:48] lcb:right, just cant wait, its a big release, at-least thats what I think. [00:49] yes it is [00:49] S-M-Gl: it'll be announced in #ubuntu-release-party as soon as it's released [00:50] i got a lot of beer already, for the party. [00:50] alokito:thanks for the heads-up [00:50] guys, anyone know why freenx was removed from natty? [00:51] !info freenx [00:51] Package freenx does not exist in natty [00:52] probly a dead package [00:52] sad [00:52] that tends to be the usual responce [00:52] can anyone recommend an alternative solution for remote desktops which performs better than vnc? [00:53] jbwiv_: Are you sure that it was in the repos? The documentation I see here says it was in a PPA [00:53] !info terminal server client [00:53] 'server' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable [00:53] jbwiv, i like TeamViewer [00:54] Pici, hmm...perhaps you're right. can 't remember when i installed it [00:54] jbwiv try terminal server client [00:54] freenx used to be in the repos like 4-5 releases ago [00:54] it does every thang [00:54] jbwiv_: there are different vnc servers which perform differently from each other [00:54] lcb: that's new to me, I"ll take a look. zenrox, isn't that for rdp? you can't expose a linux desktop through rdp unless you use the hacked vnc->rdp approach iirc [00:54] alokito, which do you consider the best? [00:54] I use realvnc in both linux and windows [00:55] jbwiv, for me is good because i can connect trough the Internet, wherever i would be. [00:55] alokito, is performance decent? [00:55] lcb: thats nie [00:55] nice [00:55] jbwiv: try teamviewer it is free for individual use and it works pretty well. check their website for the deb package. [00:55] jbwiv_: don't know about best but it performs very good [00:55] ubuntu has a vnc server installed by default btw [00:56] don't know if it'll be in natty [00:56] jbwiv, it does rdp,vnc,and xsession [00:56] alokito, yeah...well, at least in the last release, it would break if compiz was enabled [00:56] zenrox, as a client...but I need a server [00:56] IdleOne: did you notice that teamviewer is a win app running with wine [00:56] jbwiv, and direct connections too [00:56] jbwiv, direct connections meaning on my network [00:56] Kano: yes but it works well [00:56] jbwiv, you can tell xserv to be a server [00:57] IdleOne, lcb: wonder what firewall requirements teamviewer has. the nice thing about nx is that it runs over ssh [00:57] jbwiv_: then you can try realvnc, its not free though... [00:57] IdleOne: not always the best speed, but it is ok [00:57] jbwiv: none [00:57] zenrox, you can tell xserv to be an rdp server? [00:57] Kano, teamviewer is slow? [00:58] jbwiv: there is a little lag but it was not enough for me to say it was slow [00:58] i used the ntfs-tool but it adds all the ntfs devices to automount ;( [00:58] teamviewer linux version uses win emulation [00:58] jbwiv, it wont be a rdp server but i will forward xserv packets over a network [00:58] IdleOne: what you can not control with it is when you run vbox inside linux. then you have to install teamviewer inside vbox too... [00:58] jbwiv_: compared to x11vnc it is [00:58] and act like a full dm login [00:58] so it shouldn't perform as fast as linux native vnc servers [00:58] wine* [00:58] zenrox, yes...and sloooowly ;-) [00:59] Kano: I don't use it so much that the lag bothers me all that much. in a pinch teamviewer does what i need. [00:59] i used it serveral times already [00:59] dinner time. [00:59] jbwiv, i never had a prob with speed [01:00] but then i did use a lighter wm [01:00] sometimes i switched back to x11vnc because of too much delay [01:00] I think i'll stick with freenx for now. It's very fast [01:00] thanks guys...found the ppa.Pici was correct [01:00] freenx usually creates a new desktop [01:00] Kano, yes, it does [01:01] jbwiv, you have deb for that, so. you could even compile it [01:01] what i usually need is that the current desktop is exposed [01:01] do you guys trust TeamViewer? I don't know anything about them. I assume they serve as some sort of proxy? [01:01] jbwiv, it's pretty good and fast. [01:02] jbwiv_: the use case is different from freenx [01:02] wow...it's also pricey, for commercial use ;-) [01:02] but similar to skype you can transfer files thru firewall protected networks as 2nd use case ;) [01:03] jbwiv, the base package is more than enough jbwiv [01:03] lcb, yes, but I'm trying to use it for work for my company ;-) [01:04] course, I guess the'd never know, but I try to play honestly with these things [01:04] jbwiv, oh... if the inspection goes there you get a "ticket", i see [01:05] lcb :-) [01:06] even with free antivirus, in some countries and under software release rules, you can't use it 'in' comercial places [01:08] Kano, with skype you get almost the full package; the files and the people sending it :) [01:09] well with teamviewer you only accept file transfer once, then you can copy the whole hd if you want... [01:10] government here plans to switch back from linux to windows. so sad [01:10] the win os is not that important, but the office apps are overpriced... [01:10] and so is most software on win. [01:11] linux is getting expensive for governments for quite long time; no revenues from taxes. [01:12] wow...have you guys tried x2go? it's extremely fast on this end [01:12] faster than nx it appears [01:12] yeah, the reason they tell the people is that they want to "support the local companies", implying that windows is "local" [01:12] tim: you need to create linux alternatives first, thats definitely nothing you do in a few days. but you could at least begin converting ms office tools to open/libre office to get rid of that depend [01:14] tim: cload bases solutions will help too..., then you could even do everything in your webbrower... [01:15] nite all, 1:15 am here. time to dream... sleeping. [01:15] didn't natty release today already? [01:15] Q-FUNK, I believe it's tomorrow [01:16] schedule said 28th [01:16] 28th [01:16] its 28th morning here in South Asia! [01:16] hey do you know how long till 11.04 is out? [01:16] !isitout [01:16] No! Its not out yet! [01:17] there you go ssfdre38! [01:17] i know its not out yet but how many hrs left [01:17] no idea :P [01:17] ok [01:17] !11.04 [01:17] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not currently intended for production systems. [01:17] you can join #ubuntu-release-party if you want [01:18] i read somewhere it was at 23:30 but i dont know what timezone [01:18] UTC maybe [01:19] maybe [01:19] then it would be release right now [01:40] what silent !!!!! [01:41] Everybody's busy upgrading, I suppose ;) [01:41] my server is up-to-date [01:42] Well, folks, is natty looking solid so far for you? thinking of upgrading today [01:42] Hey guys, do any of you have problems with setting the Chromium Daily Build from the PPA as the default browser? [01:42] It's been going on for quite a while. [01:42] !isitout [01:42] No! Its not out yet! [01:43] hehehe [01:43] when will be available 11.04 ? [01:43] marcavis: All depends on if you like unity... [01:43] Yeah I've heard a bit about it... I'll have to try it I think [01:43] rendero: I've told you, sometime before 29th [01:44] arand but here its written 28th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [01:44] huh [01:44] You are not listening are you? :p [01:45] ... [01:45] rendero: 11.04 is scheduled to be released sometime during the time period when it's April 28th somewhere on the planet. [01:45] ok [01:47] it should've released in may day to honor worker's revolution :P [01:47] then it would be 11.05! [01:47] lol yah [01:50] boodroscotch: I have chromium daily what is your problem? [01:50] is it out? [01:50] lol [01:51] ask that in release-party, and you get kicked [01:51] !isitout [01:51] It's out soon! Join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D [01:51] ssfdre38: but if you ask "is it out" in release party, you get kicked..lol [01:51] seems like it's close :D [01:51] i saw [01:51] ubottu changed it's response [01:51] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:53] I have an issue on my system running 11.04 with the latest updates. There is a region in the lower portion of my screen that ignores input from the mouse. If I am in Firefox, I cannot scroll or click. In minecraft, all clicks are ignored. It seems to be a system-wide anomaly. Any ideas? === JamesJRH_ is now known as JamesJRH [01:53] (in fullscreen versions of applications, vlc or minecraft, this issue goes away) [01:54] my touchpad's scroll doesn't work. it was normal with 10.04. ?? [01:55] kavurt: Have you made sure it's enabled as well? (I think it comes disabled per default...) [01:55] arand: can you tell me how to enable it? [01:56] kavurt: Mouse in system setting under shutdown button [01:57] need help with display intel 845ge on board have only one resolution [01:58] itaylor57: well, I can't set it as the default browser [01:58] can someone help [01:59] boodroscotch: I had that problem in the past,but it came and went [01:59] arand: it's already enabled. it looks like i have a bigger problem :( [02:00] i have looked more into my issue, it is definitely system wide with unity [02:00] boodroscotch: when I have seen that, it won't let me set it but it still acts like the default [02:00] when using a terminal there is a large region where I am unable to select text in the lower quadrant of my screen [02:02] this issue has affected me more than once, with restarts in between === rww is now known as rww_ [02:02] itaylor57: hm, it doesn't act like default at all for me. [02:02] boodroscotch: no idea then [02:07] can some help me with my display [02:07] any links or anything [02:08] linuxman410, sorry i didnt see your original post [02:10] coz i have a tntel 845ge only one resoulution [02:10] resolution [02:10] linuxman410, ah ,, darn ,, I know far too little about intel graphics to helps [02:11] coz_ i need to make a xorg.conf file [02:14] does anyone know how to make ipod work with banshee [02:16] Hi! How can I know if I'm running gnome or unity? [02:17] piero, have you seen either screenshots of unity or videos? [02:17] coz_, yes I did. But U [02:18] piero, the 2 look pretty different from one another [02:18] But unity is pretty like gnome, and I made an upgrade from 10.10. So my menus are the same as lastday. gnome-panel is running... I saw in process's list [02:18] piero: unity has icons on the left [02:18] piero, Unity has the large launcher panel on the left part of the screen ,, but classic gnome just has the top and bottom panels [02:19] piero, ok y ou upgraded and the desktop looks the same...yes? [02:20] hmm! but, is there a process that is always and just running when you are using unity? === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 [02:20] coz_, right! [02:20] piero, ok which video card do you have on that machine? [02:20] but I selected "Ubuntu Desktop" in gdm [02:20] piero, open a terminal lspci | grep -i vga [02:20] piero, ah [02:20] coz_, no 3d acceleration here. I'm a sad man who bought a sis chipset [02:21] piero, ok then you need to install Unity-2d from synaptic package manager [02:21] roger coz_ , but I'm not going to do that, since unity-2d are QT based. [02:21] piero, open synaptic hit Search type in Unity-2d [02:22] piero, then you are stuck with classic gnome [02:22] yeah.. but do you think I will be able to run gnome-3 in 11.10? [02:22] (this is a question for ubuntu+2) [02:23] piero, if you cannot run with 3d acceleration than I dont think mutter will work either but I havent played with it recently [02:23] and do you liked? [02:24] piero, I do not like gnome3 no .. just my opinion,,, [02:24] hmm [02:24] install virtualbox 4.0.6 on ubuntu 11.04, but /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is missing. Anyone please? [02:25] digdeep, if I remember correctly... i believe someone said virtualbox is broken on natty,, but not positive [02:25] finally, can you send me your sources.list file? [02:25] my configuration is pretty dumped [02:25] piero, hold on [02:26] digdeep: ok let's get you that link I was on about in #ubuntu [02:26] digdeep: do you have dkms installed? [02:26] digdeep: something I will probabably do myself eventualley, with another distro as host :) [02:27] kancerman: micahg http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/ [02:27] http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/ [02:28] piero, I dont think my sources list is default... you will have to ask someone else ...sorry [02:28] kancerman: if you follow these instructions ^ then things should be ok [02:28] right, thanks coz_ [02:28] uh why am I messaging kancerman when I mean to message digdeep ? [02:28] ubuntu 11.04 "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256" [02:28] Hi all, I installed virtualbox 4.0.6 (I think it is the latest) INSIDE natty. It is not working. I need to "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup", but /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is missing [02:28] gdm is basically failing hard for me [02:29] digdeep: you won't have that with 4.0.6 since natty has 4.0.4 [02:29] Luke1: quite a few alternative log in screens :) [02:29] ? [02:29] sebsebseb: what do you mean? [02:29] Luke1: well you said gdm was failing on you [02:30] Luke1: so maybe an alternative log in screen would work instead [02:30] I suspect that's just one symptom of a deeper issue [02:30] i don't think it has to do with GDM in particular [02:30] Luke1: however yeah your issue is probably something deeper as you say, as well [02:30] gconf-sanity-check-2 implies something bad [02:30] anyone with successfull update 10.10 64bit to 11.04 64bit? [02:30] micahg: virtualbox 4.0.6 is saying I should run "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" If it is not there, what should I do? [02:31] digdeep: not sure, but I think it may mean to install the kernel modules, looks similar to something I have had before [02:31] digdeep: which Virtualbox did you install, or I should say how did you do so? [02:31] i'm getting the gconf-sanity-check-2 error after an update [02:31] digdeep: it should be in /opt/VirtualBox or something similar if you're running the oracle version [02:32] digdeep: make sure to install the non OSE version, and things should be ok [02:33] sebsebseb: no such thing anymore [02:33] micahg: true [02:33] micahg: ah well you can help them :) or try to [02:34] it looks like I upgraded and now /tmp/ isn't writable - anyone know why that would be [02:34] ? [02:35] I download virtualbox 4.0.6 from virtualbox offical website, then install it [02:36] omg that fixed everything! [02:36] tmp became unwritable for some reason [02:36] why would that happen? [02:36] //tmp that is [02:38] srsly why do wobble windows bust nuts whenever the window is slightly off screen [02:39] viewport switcher too [02:39] digdeep: it's been a long time since I downloaded virtualbox, I used the oracle deb repo for a long while [02:39] but during installation, software centre says it is in bad quality [02:40] oracle is not great at making deb packages. [02:41] man my computer is fubared from - i upgraded something which caused /tmp to not be writable as well as tons of random gnome stuff being messed (themes are broken etc) [02:42] yofel_, so far gnome 3 from the ppa is far quicker and less buggy than unity [02:44] Miracle! [02:44] somehow, reinstalled after 3 times. It works! [02:45] not sure what I did [02:45] exit [02:47] my gui update hung at 95%. i cancelled it. there's 200 updates available. now i do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", it tells me no updates available. ?? [02:48] try dist-upgrade [02:49] kavurt: run update-manager again [02:50] micahg: where's update-manager? [02:51] tim: i tried it. it gives the same result. 0 updates... [02:51] kavurt: just type update-manager on the terminal [02:51] kavurt: how did you run the original update? [02:52] UBUNUT [02:52] micahg: it came up itself into the system tray automatically. [02:53] tim: update-manager wasn't installed. now i'm installing it. [02:53] kavurt: you said GUI, how were you upgrading before? [02:55] micahg: it appears in the system tray whenever updates available. and i just click on it. and it updates the system. isn't it gui? [02:55] !isitout [02:55] It's out soon! Join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D [02:56] kavurt: all the updates might be installed, it depends where it was hung [02:58] What's the default numbers for launching files & folders and USC? [02:59] micahg: same thing happened before. i thought like just what you said. but apparently they weren't installed. and same amount of updates appeared at a later time. and exactly same thing happened again. btw update-manager couldn't find any updates eiter. [02:59] i.e. Which number are they normally in the panel? [03:00] kavurt: you can try sudo dpkg --configure -a, if anything was left, it was probably the package configuration [03:02] thanks micahg: i'll try it [03:05] hi everyone. Wanted to ask if it is worth migrating to btrfs with natty [03:06] Hey faamily... how do i run lmms in ubuntu 11.04 [03:06] dang [03:06] this room getting thick [03:11] lucus: No. Use it to test, nothing else. [03:14] lucus: (My opinion, based on general status and ubuntu's implementation) [03:16] arand: The only problem so far is slow boot... Would there be any issues with corruption? === Guest39231 is now known as kholerabbi [03:17] lucus: btrfs is not considered stable yet (you can get around the slow boot by removing the btrfsck symlink, btw) [03:17] lucus: So I would definitely make sure to keep everythin imortant on the btrfs well backupped [03:18] lucus: Corruption is not as uncommon as it should be, plus there is no proper btrfscktool [03:18]