[02:07] <rweber> UBUNTU, and all linux not detecting usb.....  BEAGLEBOARD.. Works at first, but then after a little while stops working.
[02:09] <GrueMaster> rweber: Is this happening on both of your boards? (or am I thinking of someone else).
[02:10] <GrueMaster> Also, what hardware (specific rev) and what image (specific release or daily build info).
[08:19] <hrw> morning
[08:40] <fairuz> morning
[10:35] <mdz> ogra, is it fair to call the ARM netbook build a "developer" version?
[10:36] <mdz> I'm trying to avoid confusion for netbook users as to which image to download
[10:36] <mdz> (in the release announcement)
[10:52] <ogra> mdz, hmm, the developer image for arm is actually the headless one ... netbook is usually referred to by us as an enduser image in the community
[10:52] <ogra> (i.e. as answer to the often upcoming question why we use a splash, have no kernel messages on and no serial login enabled by default)
[10:52] <ogra> mdz, i would just call it "Image of the ARM edition" or some such instead and just drop the flavour
[10:52] <mdz> ogra, which computers does it run on?
[10:53] <mdz> all it says right now are Panda and Beagle, which are not end user computers but developer boards
[10:55] <ogra> mdz, right, thats true ... but the image is supposed to be a reference for enduser installs
[10:55] <ogra> vs the headles image which is a clear developer only image
[10:56] <mdz> "A special developer version is provided for select Texas Instruments
[10:56] <mdz> (TI) ARM platforms, specifically the "Panda" and "Beagle" boards.
[10:56] <mdz> "
[10:56] <mdz> is the language I've suggested
[10:56] <mdz> (removing the reference to netbooks)
[10:56] <ogra> referring to netbook ?
[10:57] <mdz> ogra, referring to the 11.04 release
[10:57] <mdz> not to a specific image
[10:57]  * ogra would somewhat like the word reference in there ... :) but its ok as is 
[10:58] <mdz> Developer reference images are provided for select Texas Instruments (TI) ARM
[10:58] <mdz> platforms, specifically the "Panda" and "Beagle" boards.
[10:58] <mdz> ogra, ok?
[10:58] <ogra> perfect !
[10:58] <ogra> :)
[10:58] <mdz> done
[11:12]  * hrw waits for Eagleboard ;D
[11:13]  * LetoThe2nd still wants koalaboard.
[11:16] <hrw> Beagle, Hawk, Leopard, Panda exists so far
[11:42] <apw> ogra, you have release noted the omap4 sound issues, but if i read bug #651302 there are isses on omap3 as well ?  should that be noted too ??
[11:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 651302 in alsa-lib "No sound in omap (beagle, beagleXM)." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651302
[11:43] <ogra_> apw, we have it noted in the arm release notes, i think thats enough
[11:43] <ogra_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NattyReleaseNotes
[11:43] <apw> ogra_,  ok
[12:17] <apw> ogra_, your arm release notes, the links at the bottom are missing
[12:18] <ndec> mdz: ogra: panda and beagle are not the proper names. i think you should say pandaboard and beagleboard. in fact I think the exact name is PandaBoard and BeagleBoard.
[12:19] <ogra_> mdz, can we still change that ?
[12:20] <ndec> mdz: ogra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard
[12:21] <mdz> ogra_, yes, go ahead if nobody has the edit lock. don't forget to use `` to avoid it becoming a wiki link
[12:21] <ndec> I still think that someone else should confirm, but I am pretty sure that Panda and Beagle is not the right one...
[12:21] <ndec> prpplague: ^^ any idea?
[12:21] <mdz> ogra_, oh, never mind, you're talking about the release announcement, rather than the release notes
[12:21] <mdz> ogra_, ask skaet
[12:22] <mdz> note that text is already copied into the release notes too
[12:23] <ogra> mdz, i think ndec just referred to our above conversation
[12:23]  * ogra goes around and changes
[12:24] <ndec> ogra_: mdz: whatever reference you are making to panda and beagle you should be using the 'official' names.
[12:24] <mdz> ogra, please tell skaet what you are doing
[12:24] <ogra> np, will do
[12:24] <Daviey> ogra, you are blocking the release :P
[12:25] <ogra> Daviey, awesome ! i always wanted to be at fault for that :P (didnt manage to in 6 years canonical)
[12:27] <ndec> ogra: I am glad I could help you for this challenge ;-)
[12:30] <ogra> Developer reference images are provided for select Texas Instruments (TI) ARM
[12:30] <ogra> platforms, specifically the "PandaBoard" and "BeagleBoard" developer systems.
[12:30] <ndec> looks beautiful...
[12:40] <ogra> there we go, happy release day :)
[12:40] <ppisati> i'm out for some grocery, but anyone with arm/mmu/openocd/gdb knowledge is welcome:
[12:40] <ogra> oops typoed
[12:40] <ppisati> bug 768249
[12:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 768249 in linux-ti-omap4 "kexec panic: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1008) at 0x03510000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768249
[12:43] <fairuz> ogra: your link is broken
[12:43] <fairuz> there's | in it :D
[12:44] <ogra> thanks ! :)
[12:44] <fairuz> the ubuntu.com in such a mess on my machine. Something like broken css
[12:48] <hrw> fairuz: with dell laptop on top of text?
[12:48] <hrw> had to reload
[12:48] <fairuz> hrw: yes, and some broken list below it
[12:48] <fairuz> ah
[12:49] <fairuz> hrw: you are right, a hard refresh do the job
[12:51] <ndec> ogra: why is there 'DRAFT' here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes
[12:52] <ndec> ogra: also it seems that you in fact did put a wikilink for PandaBoard and BeagleBoard ;-)
[12:54] <ogra_> ndec, because its a draft :) the actual release notes go to ubuntu.com
[12:56] <ndec> ogra: well, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes points to this place, and I received the release announcement already... so why is it still a draft?
[13:00] <ogra> hmm, right
[13:01] <ogra> i pinged #ubuntu-release
[13:02] <ogra> fixed
[13:02] <ogra> ndec, thanks for pointing out !
[13:33] <ndec> ogra: one more. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NattyReleaseNotes has a link (at the end) to the netbook instructions. link is dead
[13:33] <ogra_> yeah, i need GrueMaster to tell me where he actually put that page
[13:33] <ogra_> or if he planned to just recycle the maverick notes
[13:34] <ogra_> its on my todo
[13:34] <ogra_> will likely be another 2h until he gets up
[13:36] <ndec> ogra: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPHeadlessInstall has a link to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/ which is dead too...
[13:37] <ogra_> oh, yeah, that should point to the new location
[13:38] <ogra_> fixed
[13:39] <ogra_> (if the wiki ever saves)
[13:42] <ndec> ogra: the manifest files are missing from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[13:42] <ogra_> might be on purpose, seems they are missing for all images there
[13:43] <ogra_> hmm, except i'm blind
[13:43] <ogra_> :P
[13:44] <ogra_> pinged #ubuntu-release again ... lets see
[13:51] <mprem> hi
[14:03] <prpplague> ndec: PandaBoard and BeagleBoard are the correct naming for the boards
[14:03] <ndec> prpplague: thanks! ogra ^^
[14:03] <ogra_> well, thats what we use now :)
[14:04] <prpplague> sorry for the late response, brain needed sleep
[15:47] <GrueMaster> Morning.  Ogra, I didn't get a chance to do the installation notes for netbook.
[15:49] <GrueMaster> In the middle of editing the release notes page, my system decided it absolutely needed to reboot.  I took that opportunity to upgrad ram from 3G to 8G.  Didn't know my MB bios needed a massive upgrade to support it and was effectively down for over an hour.
[15:52] <davidm> GrueMaster, it's critical you get it done NOW, the release is out
[15:52] <davidm> and people have noticed your name vs notes
[15:54] <GrueMaster> I'll try.  Wiki is being extremely slow.
[15:59] <ogra> everything will be slow today :)
[15:59] <ogra> its release day :)
[16:18] <ogra> GrueMaster, apart from the blaze stuff i think the page looks ok, do we know blaze will boot that way still ?
[16:19] <GrueMaster> Not sure.  Haven't had a chance to try since beta 1.
[16:19] <rsalveti> I think blaze support is broken
[16:19] <rsalveti> sebjan can give more details
[16:19] <rsalveti> don't know if our kernel supports it
[16:19] <ndec> yes, it's broken
[16:20] <ogra> so remove that bit from the wiki then
[16:20] <sebjan> last time I tried, display was broken, but I can't remember if it was booting.
[16:21] <GrueMaster> Anything else to change?  I have 5 minutes before I need to leave for a while.
[16:21] <ogra> GrueMaster, then just go, i'll look over it after meeting and fix up what i find
[23:39] <steev> are the ubuntu arm repos stable now?
[23:43] <steev> for natty i mean
[23:44] <rsalveti> steev: yes
[23:52] <steev> rsalveti: awesome
[23:53] <steev> rsalveti: in the OnericObjectives link, you mention a gl/gles proxy library, where is that, or is it something internal?
[23:53] <rsalveti> steev: was something developed by linaro
[23:54] <rsalveti> steev: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-graphics-wg/+spec/multimedia-linaro-runtime-gl-proxy
[23:57] <steev> thanks again :)