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RedSingularityhggdh jibel yofel_ micahg :  Thanks guys!  Great to be a part of the team and a awesome community!!  :)00:58
charlie-tcacongrats, RedSingularity00:59
hggdhheh01:00
RedSingularitycharlie-tca: thanks :)01:00
RedSingularityAnyone have experience with the gnome-control-center?  Here is a bug I was working a while back.  It is filed against the update-manager, but gnome-control-center may be more appropriate since the problem occurs after that package is updated.  Let me know what you think.  Thanks.  bug 72879701:58
ubot4Launchpad bug 728797 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "When using "Make Caps Lock an additional Ctrl" keyboard option, doing a dist-upgrade causes caps lock to revert to a caps lock key (affects: 1) (heat: 71)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72879701:58
tarmonHey Everyone02:07
tarmonJust applied to join BugSquad Mentorship02:08
tarmonTalkative place02:11
ikthi how r u? :))02:11
charlie-tca!u02:12
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ikt:((02:12
ikttarmon, how come you're only in #ubuntu-bugs ?02:14
tarmonWhat's that?02:18
tarmonWhere else should I be?02:18
iktWhere the talking is :)02:18
tarmonhaha, which is? I am new around here :P02:19
tarmonExplains why it's kinda dead around here02:19
iktnah02:19
iktit's usually a bit more talkative in here when someone has something bug related happen02:19
ikteven then it depends on your time zone, there's almost no bug triagers in aus :(02:20
iktsome chat in #ubuntu-release-party, there's also your ubuntu loco  channels02:20
tarmonNice02:22
tarmonWhat time/timezone is it being realeased02:22
ikttarmon, they don't say, just sometime on april 2802:27
tarmonGot ya02:27
tarmonSo I just joined the BugSquad Mentorship Launchpad team, any idea how long it typically takes them to accept people?02:28
iktnot sure, I got moved over as one of the initial batches as I was in the previous team waiting for a mentor02:30
iktvash is online a lot though02:30
iktso it should be soon02:30
tarmonGot ya.02:31
tarmonI noticed there were 6 others who had been waiting a little while.02:31
tarmonSudden burst of motivation and wanting to get involved and then I hit this wall :P02:31
iktyeah I know how that is02:31
iktthere's not to much about it though02:32
tarmonYeah for sure.02:32
tarmonSo are you still waiting for a mentor or what are you up too?02:33
ikttarmon, atm just reading around a bit, waiting for release02:38
iktI don't think you wait for a mentor anymore02:38
iktdid you join bugsquad mentor or bugsquad alpha squad?02:38
trinikronohello guys02:39
trinikronoi am a part of the mentorship alpha group02:39
iktgz :)02:40
trinikronotarmon: you can join here https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship-group-alpha02:40
trinikronojust ask one of the admins to add you02:40
trinikronolook for vish :D02:40
tarmonCOol02:44
tarmonYeah I tried to join BugSquad Mentorship02:44
tarmonBut I will shoot them a message02:44
trinikronotarmon: this team? the alpha one02:50
tarmonThe alpha one02:51
tarmonThe one you posted a link for?02:51
trinikronoyes that one02:52
trinikronowell that ok anyways you know tarmon02:52
trinikronowhere are you at with the triage process02:52
tarmonNot sure, trying to work my way through all of this. Haven't been at it for too long.02:54
trinikronodid you read the howto triage already?02:55
tarmonYeah, I got through most of it.02:56
trinikronowhat about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day02:56
tarmonI have now :)02:57
trinikronogood so you can sign up for that and we can start you off on some bugs02:58
trinikronodid you pick a package to specialize in as yet?02:59
tarmonI have not.02:59
tarmonI actually have to head out for 30-60 minutes02:59
tarmonany chance you will still be around when I get back?02:59
trinikronoi will be if you are coming back :D02:59
trinikronoi am not in bug control as yet btw03:00
trinikronoso i can only help you so far anyways03:00
tarmonAlright well you seem to know more of whats going that I do ;)03:00
tarmonI should be back on in an hour or less03:00
tarmonThanks!03:00
trinikronoikt: are you in the mentorship group also?03:01
ikttrinikrono: yea03:34
trinikrono:D what do you triage03:34
ikttrinikrono, anything really03:54
iktmainly watch over bugs filed against ubuntu03:54
tarmonbug 77200804:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 772008 in ubuntu "gnome-panel is running over unity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77200804:28
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thekorngood morning bugsquad07:55
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jibelmvo, Hi, I hope you enjoyed your vacation :-)10:18
jibelmvo, I've a bug that's you'll maybe find interesting10:19
jibelmvo, bug 76968010:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 769680 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "during kubuntu-desktop upgrade to Natty, gnome packages are removed if python is hold back to <2.7 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76968010:19
jibelhalf of the system has been removed during upgrade10:19
mvothanks jibel, I check this out10:24
mvojibel: fixed in -proposed10:47
jibelmvo, excellent, I was not requesting a quick fix though :-)10:51
mvojibel: :)10:58
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PiciHm.  If I notice a bug in the release notes, should I fix it myself (!itsawiki) or is there someone better to notify? (specifically the mention of using do-release-upgrade -d)13:41
pedro_anybody with a raid1 and a natty installation ? ;-)13:58
pedro_bug 761971 needs some help with that13:59
ubot4`Launchpad bug 761971 in mdadm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "no notification that one of the disks has been disconnected in a raid 1 configurtion (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76197113:59
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JoshuaLI am trying to triage a bug, the bug 772409. main.log says 2011-04-28 10:37:22,258 DEBUG Can't mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.), i already gave the bug the tag maverick2natty. Is there any other thing I can change like the status or request more information?15:40
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772409 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 "Could not calculate the upgrade" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77240915:40
mvoJoshuaL: I commented in the bug15:52
JoshuaLok ty15:53
JoshuaLbbl15:55
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bdmurrayjibel_: does update-managaer have bug reporting guidelines?18:15
njinhello fellows, i need a Xorg expert for this 2 heads problem(WW): NVIDIA: The Composite and Xinerama extensions are both enabled, which is an unsupported configuration.  The driver will continue to load, but may behave strangely.19:28
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ohsixnjin: you'll need to talk to nvidia, they are mutually exclusive, and they only do xinerama as a multihead hack, in lieu of xrandr 1.2+ support19:42
njinohsix: do you think that installing Experimental drivers can fix this?19:43
yofelthe expermintal drivers in jockey are meant for nouveau, so that would circumvent the issue by changing the driver. But the issue would still stay the same for nvidia19:46
ohsixyea, that19:46
ohsixyou might try a natty livecd to see how that would go, then upgrade to natty :]19:46
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jibelbdmurray, There is this doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager , I didn't review it recently20:20
bdmurrayjibel: I meant https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+edit20:23
bdmurrayjibel: and it looks like there are20:23
jibelbdmurray, I learned something. I completely ignored the existence of these +edit link.20:27
bdmurrayjibel: well it only appears on the +source page so might be hard to find20:27
JoshuaLIf a user says that it looks like the issue is fixed, can I close it or should I wait for the user to be sure its fixed?20:35
RedSingularitySo the next bug meeting is the 19th at 1700 UTC?  That was the final decision?21:31
yofelRedSingularity: the 5th at 1700 and the next on the 19th at 1700, after that evey 2nd thursday of a month21:43
RedSingularityyofel: ok great.  Thanks buddy :)21:44
yofelsure, let's see if having it on the bugday will get some more people to listen ^^21:44
RedSingularitylol21:45
bdmurrayparticipation would be better than listening ;-)21:56
jibelisn't update-manager's hook supposed to attach dist-upgrade logs when there's a failure during a release upgrade ? Very few upgrade reports have them attached.22:03
bdmurrayjibel: do you have an example?  I was looking at this code the other day22:03
jibelbdmurray, bug 77253922:04
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772539 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "nasty distro upgrade crashed (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77253922:04
bdmurraynasty?22:04
jibel:-)22:05
jibelbug 77258322:05
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772583 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Updating to Kubuntu 11.04, couldn't finish (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77258322:05
jibelbug 77260222:05
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772602 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "During upgrad error message regarding calculating the upgrade, E:ErrorpckProblemResolver::Resolve Generated Breaks (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77260222:05
jibeland so on ...22:05
bdmurrayits not clear to me those first 2 are crashes22:05
jibelhow did they filed the reports ?22:06
jibelbug 77261122:07
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772611 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maverick - Natty upgrade crashes on kubuntu-desktop package (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77261122:07
bdmurrayI think bug 721382 might help with some of this22:08
ubot4`Launchpad bug 721382 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "dist-upgrade error message should say to use ubuntu-bug (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72138222:08
RedSingularityjibel: I have found many reports from distribution upgrades lacking those files as well.22:08
bdmurrayAs I understand it not being able to calcuate the upgrade with return the message in bug 721382 which is suboptimal22:12
ubot4`Launchpad bug 721382 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "dist-upgrade error message should say to use ubuntu-bug (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72138222:12
bdmurrayjibel: if you can help with a test case fro a crash though I'd be happy to help sort this out22:13
bdmurrayoh hang on22:13
jibelbdmurray, That would obviously improve the situation. Sure, I can reproduce a crash.22:14
jibelI've 2 test cases actually, 1. couldn't calculate the upgrade 2. crash during upgrade22:14
jibelboth crashes requires the logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade22:15
jibelfor 2. the hook must determine if it's a regular upgrade or a release upgrade22:16
jibelRedSingularity, for info there are many upgrade failures because of bug 772387,22:19
jibelyou'll see "Broken openoffice.org-dmaths:amd64 Depends on libreoffice-dmaths [ amd64 ] < none > ( none )" at the bottom of the file apt.log22:19
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772387 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "failed to upgrade to natty: openoffice.org-dmaths : Depends: libreoffice-dmaths but it is not installable (affects: 4) (dups: 3) (heat: 32)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77238722:19
bdmurrayjibel: I think I've sorted out one of the issues22:20
jibelbdmurray, what is it ?22:20
RedSingularityjibel: thanks for the heads up :)  I am going to make a note of that now for duplicates.22:20
bdmurrayjibel: well let me test it first ;-)22:20
jibelok :-)22:21
bdmurrayjibel: do you recall how to do an sru test of a dist-upgrade? since a new version of update-manager gets downloaded...22:30
jibelbdmurray, what do you mean ? testing the version in natty-proposed ?22:31
bdmurrayjibel: right22:33
jibelbdmurray, update-manager -p22:33
jibelthis will download the release-upgrader from -proposed22:33
* BUGabundo cries22:35
BUGabundoI got left out of #ubuntu+1 before I could say good bye to my friends22:36
BUGabundoit was closed TOO SOON22:36
yofelyeah, somehow we got the release done in the morning, I almost forgot to say bye too22:38
BUGabundoits NEVER in the morning :(22:39
micahgpeople must have been able to work faster in unity ;)22:39
jibelbdmurray, same kind of reporting issue with ubiquity, bug 772721 . It asks to use ubiquity/+filebug rather than directly reporting the bug and attaching the right files.22:39
ubot4`Launchpad bug 772721 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "On install apt crash (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77272122:39
BUGabundowe already run that stat for 10.0422:39
BUGabundoits almost always around 14-16 GMT22:39
BUGabundooh well22:39
BUGabundotime to check for a new chain22:40
BUGabundostill on natty22:40
BUGabundooh well22:40
BUGabundotomorrow should be there22:40
BUGabundomeh22:46
BUGabundototem-video-thumbnailer is killing my CPU22:46
jibelYay, I've found a high score, 64 different ppa enabled, and strangely the system refuses to upgrade :)22:47
micahgwow, 64 PPAs...I think I topped out at 2022:49
* yofel has 25 PPA enabled on his system, some of them pinned though22:50
BUGabundowc -l sources.list22:51
BUGabundo57 sources.list22:51
BUGabundo$ pastebinit sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/600471/22:51
yofel319, but most of it is commented out22:51
BUGabundoeheh22:52
BUGabundo-v #22:52
BUGabundo$ grep http sources.list | grep -v "# deb" | wc -l22:53
BUGabundo1422:53
jibelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/600473/22:54
yofel$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | grep -v ^$ | grep natty | grep -v deb-src | wc -l22:55
yofel2222:55
yofelnice collection he has there...22:56
BUGabundothat give me 7 LOL22:56
BUGabundoso half of my are pre-natty22:56
BUGabundojibel so you have *every* ppa available ? :P22:56
BUGabundoyou are better off running debian unstable :))))22:56
yofelhm, that should be 23, kubuntu-ninjas is private so I manage that seperate22:57
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