[00:30] hggdh, pong [02:34] duanedesign: pign [02:34] er, ping [02:58] thanks there akgraner :) [04:14] jcastro: I need a review from someone [04:16] nigelb: For what? [04:19] nhandler: summit colors === IdleOne is now known as Narwhal [04:44] nigelb: the one you linked to earlier today (yesterday for you)? [04:44] mhall119: yeah [04:44] I didn't see anything wrong with the code, as long as the colors work I'm okay with it [04:45] did you create track names identical to what's in production to test it? [04:45] yeah [04:45] jcastro put all the tracknames in the bug [04:45] give me the link again and I'll approve it [04:45] I created all of those [04:45] https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/fix-colors/+merge/59254 [04:46] there you go [04:46] feel free to land it in trunk [04:46] \o/ [04:51] mhall119: erm, how do I land, just go to a fresh branch and pull from my branch? [04:57] jcastro: colors have landed in trunk :) [05:00] nigelb: generally you get a local branch of trunk, then "bzr merge" in your changes into it, then "bzr push" it back to lp:summit [05:02] which is what it looks like you did [05:02] mhall119: I have a whole setup for that [05:02] (a) summit folder where I actually do changes [05:02] then a summit-dev folder into which trunk is imported [05:02] and then I branch from that to create new branches [05:03] I import patches from my summit folder into the new branches to push them [06:05] well, looks like tornadoes are happening all around me, so if I am not online tomorrow I must have lost power. :-/ [06:05] gonna go and gather up some things in case the worst happens [07:11] good morning [07:12] morning dholbach :) [07:12] hey nigelb [07:14] *yawn* morning friends [07:20] hi duanedesign [07:58] good morning all [08:06] hi dpm [08:07] hey dholbach, good morning! [08:09] /j #ubuntu-release-party [08:12] \o/ [09:28] popey: unfair :p [09:28] :D [09:28] brilliant social engineering hack though :) [09:36] * nigelb hugs Daviey === daker_ is now known as daker [11:18] is there a hashtag that people use for ubuntu release already? [11:20] not yet, no. [11:22] which one would make sense? [11:27] #lastubuntureleasepeoplecanspell ;-) [11:27] and more seriously? :) [11:28] #ubuntu1104? #ubuntu #natty? #ubunturelease? #ubuntureleaseday? [11:28] not very imaginative, I know :) [11:40] I guess #ubuntu and #natty should be just fine :) [11:40] Pendulum: I like that one :p [11:44] dholbach: you should watch over cjwatson's shoulder's and tweet :p [11:44] dholbach: like debian did ;) [11:45] nigelb, that's a bit hard for me - there's a couple hundred kilometers and one ocean separating us [11:45] dholbach: pfft, silly excuses :p [11:45] yeah, I know [11:45] nothing's impossible in the world of Ubuntu [11:45] dholbach: also, I think some might call it blasphemous calling English Channel an ocean :p [11:46] isn't it part of some ocean or something? [11:47] * nigelb looks at popey for English geography.. [11:47] Busiest shipping lane in the world [11:47] English Channel :) === daker_ is now known as daker [12:01] do you think #ubuntu can beat #RoyalWedding today? ;-) [12:02] lets work on that :P [12:02] its all happening in the same city :p [12:03] a couple of people RTed my @ubuntudev tweet [12:11] lol, trolling with /nick in -r-p [12:13] Happy Natty day :D [12:32] Daviey: ping [12:32] nigelb: nice work! [12:32] jcastro: :) [12:32] jcastro, o. [12:33] jcastro: if someone doesn't like the colors, redirect them to me :) [12:33] Daviey: sessions appear to be in the sidebar but not scheduled, did you cron it? [12:36] jcastro, yes [12:37] jcastro, those are all giving out put of: [12:37] Gave up scheduling tr-server-dma-per-device-coherency [12:37] Gave up scheduling server-o-user-namespace [12:37] Gave up scheduling server-o-tomcat7-packaging [12:37] any idea why? [12:38] Daviey: oh, I need to rename serverandcloud to server in tracks in summit I take it [12:39] oh noooo [12:39] that means one more change I guess [12:40] yeah sorry [12:40] I just looked and he went "server" and not "serverandcloud" [12:41] jcastro: are you changing for sure? I'll do it right away so daviey can update [12:41] let's just go with server on summit, the visible text says "and cloud" anyway and I don't want to make an entire team rename stuff [12:41] jcastro: or we can change it after 2 hours when I get home. [12:41] nigelb: yeah let's just do it now [12:41] * nigelb gets to it [12:46] anyone know where doko is? [12:46] I can't find him anywhere on IRC, but nickserv says he's online [12:46] paultag, try doko_ [12:47] dholbach: PM him, do you mean? [12:47] a "dok" in #ubuntu-devel told me [12:47] oh, hum. I'm not in #ubuntu-devel, just -motu [12:47] thanks dholbach [12:49] dholbach: all set, thanks :) [12:52] dholbach: we did it! [12:52] 11.04 is out and we didn't kill ourselves! === daker_ is now known as daker [12:58] jcastro: 'yet' [12:58] heh [12:59] im installing bzr to get the color changes in [12:59] (work laptop) [13:12] nigelb: having one color off isn't so bad [13:12] jcastro: ok, I'll fix when I get home :) [13:12] Daviey: but the ones stuck not scheduling should sort themselves now that I renamed the track right? [13:12] jcastro: this has seemed to be a pretty calm release, especially for totally changing the desktop interface [13:13] mhall119: we're only like an hour in [13:13] mhall119: the next few weeks will tell the tale [13:13] but we are an hour in, no last-minute CD image rebuilds [13:13] oh oh, that kind of thing [13:13] yeah, Kate ftw. [13:14] hm, why does "stackapplet" duplicate everything in an appindicator and the messaging menu now? [13:14] JanC: I think he's in the process of moving to the messaging menu [13:14] JanC: some help there would be appreciated, it shouldn't even be an applet imo, just messaging menu and notifications [13:15] well, and a configuration dialog that can be summoned somehow, I suppose [13:18] it's in there in the applet [13:18] it just kind of sucks, I think you need to like remember your username, etc. [13:18] er, your user number or something [13:19] you need your user number [13:20] yours isn't 1000? [13:20] mine is 235 [13:21] for askubuntu it's 9xx for me [13:22] jcastro: it has a check for associated accounts feature though, so you only need to remember one for all of stackexchange (if you link your accounts) [13:37] JanC: yeah, it's just weird [13:37] compared to like some of the nicer apps on phones the app's account thing kind of sucks [13:37] but now that the lens is being made maybe we can combine both apps into one nice one === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [14:06] jcastro_, ha - I saw your comment just now :) [14:06] * dholbach hugs jcastro_ [14:06] heh === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [14:08] Daviey: so .... the schedule [14:09] jcastro, so so [14:10] Daviey: hey wait a minute [14:10] are you guys like partying in millbank right now? [14:11] "what about UDS?" "Who care, pass me that bottle of champagne!" [14:11] probably, but they do that every day [14:11] heh === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [14:30] does anyone know how often the autoscheduler is currently being run, and when the last time it ran was? [14:30] or indeed the script to associate sessions with their tracks [14:31] jcastro probably knows, or Daviey [14:31] james_w`: hourly. [14:31] james_w`: something is stuck [14:31] ok [14:31] I panged, but I think Daviey is getting hammered at Millbank. [14:32] james_w`: there's a script he runs that associates the sessions [14:32] james_w`: the BPs are in the system (I see them in the admin interface), so they're getting imported at least [14:32] james_w`: also I have you and salgado admin on summit [14:32] jcastro, ah, thanks for admin access, I can see for myself now :-) [14:33] yeah but his thing needs shell on the box iirc [14:33] and afaict only Daviey has that [14:33] though I'm sure you can ask IS [14:33] * Daviey reads scrollback [14:34] james_w`: I was going to go "so we can get someone reliable to run the thing", but I figured I was trolling. [14:34] james_w`: there's a script he runs that associates the sessions [14:34] Yes, but it needs refreshing for the tracks every cycle [14:34] james_w`, It is running hourly. [14:35] Daviey: can we hook up james and salgado with access to that? [14:36] Daviey, so it needs a code change? [14:37] james_w`, Hmm... it's actually not quite as a i remember it [14:37] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/schedule/management/commands/trackfix.py [14:37] essentially $TRACK-etctectetctetcetctetctetc [14:38] Daviey: fyi I updated the slug in the admin page to be just "server" [14:38] yeah [14:38] It used to be more dirty... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/revision/12 [14:38] Daviey, I can fix that for us [14:38] ^^ That is how i remembered it [14:39] Daviey, we can do it that way, but be dynamic by querying tracks I guess? [14:39] james_w`, Honestly, i do not mind. [14:39] Daviey, leave it with me then [14:40] james_w`, groovy. [14:40] \o/ [14:41] happy release day, all [14:42] \o/ [14:43] I am glad we can enjoy the release, despite popey shutting down community mailing lists. [14:43] * jcastro snickers [14:44] * Pendulum giggles [14:44] popey: j/k (hugs) [14:44] jcastro: no, it's not popey it's Canonical. Remember? Because the CC is all just Canonical employees masquarading as community members ;-) [14:44] facism [14:45] fascism, erm [14:45] canonical is only here to fuck up the ubuntu community with "money" or whatever [14:45] how dare they infringe on my first ammendment rights [14:45] hah [14:45] I probably should have told you before - I have a small budget for buying "community opinion" [14:45] "It was all fine and dandy until you guys wanted to eat and support your families!" [14:45] which don't apply because all the servers are not in america anywho :) [14:46] dholbach: o'rly? :) [14:46] * popey ragequits [14:46] jcastro: :P [14:46] jcastro, haha [14:46] popey: that's it, I AM MOVING TO ARCH. [14:48] jcastro: you and your "unity" can go to arch, we don't want you on "Sounder Microsoft-sucks GNU/Linux+ 3.2r1-20010" [14:50] (Codename "Freedom Ferret") [14:55] joey: this linaro call still on? [14:57] jcastro: yah [14:57] morn [14:57] james_w`: hey no pressure, kiko's asking where the sessions are... [14:57] jcastro: it's the only reason I got up at 6 :-) [14:57] er 7 [15:01] jcastro, it's implemented, I'm just testing now [15:01] and participating in two conf calls at the same time :-) [15:01] jcastro: question - can you paste me the mini-summit blueprints [15:02] jcastro: david wants to sign-up for those in the tool [15:02] paultag: and also because ubuntu isnt a wing of the federal government [15:02] joey: there aren't any minisummit blueprints, I scheduled them manually remember? [15:02] maco: :) [15:03] jcastro: yeah. So how do we do get people to sign up for them and mark attendance required? :-) [15:03] if it was easy we wouldn't be employed :-) [15:03] joey: we don't, we just make sure that no other sessions from that track are scheduled around it [15:03] it's impossible to schedule such large chunks because summit is designed to force people to move rooms [15:03] so I had to manually schedule it and break shit [15:04] jcastro: I don't think that will work because david will want to join other tracks since he's a cross-track person. [15:04] joey: it's the best I can do [15:04] I mean, we can try to assign it a bp if you want [15:04] but I'm not sure it will associate the entire block with one bp [15:05] since I had to break it up to make it fit on the schedule [15:05] so like it would enforce attendance for the first hour [15:07] jcastro, can we set david as the approver in the admin interface [15:07] Aloha [15:09] jcastro: worth a try :-) Thanks though. I was afraid that was the right answer. [15:09] jcastro: we can go play god and fix it all [15:09] yeah [15:09] it won't be so bad [15:09] they're color coded [15:09] it will take like 5 minutes [15:10] james_w`: sure, what's the lp username? [15:10] jcastro: thanks mate, you did well [15:11] in fact [15:12] I'm pretty sure we can create a BP and have people sign up there [15:12] and the system will then do the normal participation essential thing [15:12] joey: we can try it, but we should really test it [15:12] it would suck if we think it works [15:12] and it doesn't [15:12] and he misses some critical session [15:12] I'll test doing this locally [15:13] it may cause it to get rescheduled [15:16] james_w`, If a session has been manually scheduled, it will never be re-scheduled if there is a conflict. [15:16] The assumption being, that if it was manually scheduled - the track leads know better than the algorithm [15:20] Hmm, isn't there usually more of a fanfare for ubuntu releases? [15:20] doctormo: what do you mean? there's an entire bank holiday in the UK tomorrow to celebrate ;-) [15:21] Pendulum: I mean on planet ubuntu and other sites... I only heard the news from external sources this time. [15:21] hmm [15:22] jcastro: can you ping me that bp for the uds review session? [15:24] https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/tracks-with-dashes/+merge/59375 [15:24] Daviey, fix for trackfix ^ [15:24] james_w`, ta [15:26] doctormo: well, ubuntu.com was updated [15:27] joey: I still need a description of the memory management summit for: http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ [15:29] there's a memory management summit going on too? [15:31] jcastro: jesse sent that to you a few days ago via email. I can go find it and forward it if you don't have it [15:31] please do [15:31] I have graphics [15:32] jcastro: oh I see... you're not crazy it was missing on the email. I'll get that done [15:35] jcastro / james_w`: Landed that branch in production... grepped output after second run, http://pb.daviey.com/CdKT/raw/ [15:35] Daviey, sweet, thanks, I'll chase that up [15:36] joey, did we kill the multimedia track? [15:36] james_w`: yes [15:36] yeah it's gone [15:37] joey, linaro-multimedia-o-multimedia-and-landing-teams <- what track do you want that on? [15:37] jcastro, do you know what track arm sessions are going in? [15:37] ditto cert [15:37] james_w`: I need to talk to davidm still [15:37] as soon as I get a split second to [15:37] kernel too [15:37] sure [15:37] just trying to take care of things if they are clear, not trying to hassle you [15:37] james_w`: jono thinks they should go mostly in foundations [15:37] or desktop, or kernel [15:37] independant of the hw [15:38] james_w`: Kurt and others from MM will not be there [15:38] james_w`: so I don't think there will be anyone in attendance for that session from MM [15:40] mhall119: Yes, I saw that. [15:42] oh dude [15:42] james_w`: [15:42] I bet we could do different shades of green [15:42] yeah [15:42] in the colors [15:42] that would be low hanging easy fruit [15:43] jcastro: Need help on picking shades of green? [15:45] want want want: http://www.trimslice.com/images/Trim-Slice-brochure-low-res.jpg [15:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/600300/ are the Ubuntu sessions that won't be autoscheduled for Ubuntu currently [15:46] doctormo: I hear congratulations are in order? [15:46] joey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600298/ are the problematic ones for Linaro [15:46] jussi: Yes, I did successfully draw a picture. [15:46] hehe [15:47] jussi: But yes, exciting times ahead. [15:47] doctormo: congratulations. :D [15:48] hey folks [15:48] jussi: Thanks for saying the full word. Appreciated. [15:48] :) [15:48] hey jono, any exciting news? [15:48] Heya jono!! [15:48] doctormo: james_w` will need help with the shades of green [15:48] doctormo, nothing much, something going on today I think ;-) [15:49] doctormo: but not right this sec, need to get the scheduler working. [15:49] doctormo, hey congrats on the news! [15:49] doctormo: hold that thought! [15:49] doctormo: it'll be ~7 shades of green [15:50] jono: I haven't seen much news of anything special going on today... unless the planet is broken ;-) [15:52] Actually I think it might be, I posted a blog a while ago and it's not yet up on the planet. [15:53] joey: I need to drop out to prep for a Qt call. [15:53] joey: I think I'm done here, cna you run interference for me if something comes up? [15:53] I don't want to interrupt this guy [15:53] jcastro: yes sir, thanks for your help [15:53] bah, stuck at work :\ [15:54] \o/ [15:54] we can use BPs for the mini-summits [15:55] we have to use 1 per-day, but it should work, and then we can have people sign up to avoid the clashes [15:55] ok, awesome [15:56] morning all [15:56] joey: can you file those today? I've my hands full with my own team right now. :) [15:57] jcastro, if you're happy with it then I'll take care of it [15:57] james_w`: sure, roll with it! [15:57] ok [15:58] james_w`: do you know how to associate a BP with an existing session that was put into summit by hand? [15:58] jcastro, they have to have the same name. If they don't then I don't think it is possible without a hack [15:58] ok, whatever works [15:59] james_w`: we'll need proper support in the future for long running sessions [15:59] so that we can do that + sessions and get conflict resolution, etc. without having summit freak out because it's the same track back to back [16:00] jcastro, I think you can just go to the "slots" parameter of any session to do that [16:00] yeah [16:00] the problem is [16:00] modifying slots is painful [16:01] and error prone [16:01] because you have to do like 2 time conversions [16:01] Have peoples seen this? o.O WOW! http://pixlr.com/ [16:01] Hey jono, are people scared of upsetting you? [16:02] doctormo, scared of upsetting me? [16:02] jussi: o.O [16:03] jono: Did I spell that wrong, frightened, fearful... etc? [16:03] doctormo, what are you talking about? [16:03] jono: Just having a conversation with someone, the claim is that bloggers aren't dissing Unity much because they're scared of you. [16:03] doctormo: we're scared jono will force us to listen to his band :p [16:03] (j/k) [16:04] nigelb: its flash based, but apart from that... [16:04] doctormo, lol, I doubt it [16:04] jussi: pretty rocking [16:04] mind you, the beatings will continue until morale improves [16:04] lol [16:04] jono: My impression is the same. I'm not scared of jono bacon, or his band. ;-) [16:05] jono: haha :) [16:06] "Jonoites", funny word. [16:12] doctormo: who are you talking to who's afraid of jono [16:12] ? [16:12] also, "baconbits" is better than "jonoites" [16:12] mhall119: Can't really say, but they aren't pleased with the narwhal. [16:13] what? somebody is unhappy with a new release of Ubuntu? [16:13] * mhall119 blames popey [16:14] mhall119: good call. [16:20] jcastro, does it need time conversion? I just mean "Slots: 3" under scheduling details in the admin page for any session like you did for the mini-summits [16:20] OH [16:20] yeah yeah [16:20] I don't see why that wouldn't work for BPs, though I don't know if the autoscheduler is smart enough to not screw that up [16:20] but there aren't that many to schedule by hand if it does [16:29] dpm: can you file this in the community track [16:30] jcastro, the qt session? yeah [16:48] dpm: give him this link in your email: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o [16:50] jcastro, ok [16:52] james_w`: Daviey: are you guys doing surgery or can I schedule some linaro plenaries? [16:52] (sorry I was on a call, how's it coming along?) [16:52] jcastro, I'm not doing anything currently [16:52] jcastro, i'm not touching it atm [16:53] joey: what's Zach's last name? [16:56] jcastro, Pfeffer IIRC [16:56] dholbach, terroriste attaque in marrakech [16:56] yeah [16:56] daker, yeah, I heard about it [16:56] daker, a friend of mine was there like 3-4 weeks ago [16:56] jcastro: what james_w` said [16:57] joey: and who is 'plars' [16:57] joey: I'm doing their plenaries now and I am just filling in their names [16:57] jcastro: paul larson [16:57] * jcastro feels dumb [16:57] I know paul [16:58] hurm? [16:58] not you [16:58] other paul [16:58] * paultag goes back to idle [16:58] jono: do you keep a list of things you will mention during the plenary? I need to add an item for you. :) [17:00] james_w`: hmm, any idea why new plenaries wouldn't be showing up in the sidebar? [17:00] jcastro, I saw one [17:00] jcastro, the "Linaro intro" [17:00] yeah but none of the new ones are showing up, hmmm [17:00] yeah [17:00] oh, ok [17:02] I don't know, I can't see any difference [17:02] me either [17:02] hey maybe it'll just sort itself when the other stuff gets scheduled [17:02] (hah) [17:02] jcastro, I don't have a formalized list, just email me and remind me [17:02] :-) [17:02] jono: ok [17:03] james_w`: ok so sorry I was on another call, you mentioned you had it working and you were just testing it? [17:03] what's left to do, just deploy? [17:03] jcastro, Daviey did that [17:03] jcastro, so most things are now correctly associated with tracks [17:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/600300/ are the Ubuntu ones that aren't and so won't be autoscheduled [17:04] ok so I'm confused [17:04] we did the colors already right? [17:04] that I don't know [17:04] I think so as I saw some changes [17:04] also the sessions are still not on the schedule [17:04] it's still the same bunch from the initial import [17:05] can someone give me some RT love? https://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/63634595723223040 [17:05] jcastro, I don't know if the autoscheduler has run, I don't have any visibility of that [17:06] Daviey: yo, put the champagne down. [17:07]