[00:30] <akgraner> hggdh, pong
[02:34] <jcastro> duanedesign: pign
[02:34] <jcastro> er, ping
[02:58] <paultag> thanks there akgraner :)
[04:14] <nigelb> jcastro: I need a review from someone
[04:16] <nhandler> nigelb: For what?
[04:19] <nigelb> nhandler: summit colors
[04:44] <mhall119> nigelb: the one you linked to earlier today (yesterday for you)?
[04:44] <nigelb> mhall119: yeah
[04:44] <mhall119> I didn't see anything wrong with the code, as long as the colors work I'm okay with it
[04:45] <mhall119> did you create track names identical to what's in production to test it?
[04:45] <nigelb> yeah
[04:45] <nigelb> jcastro put all the tracknames in the bug
[04:45] <mhall119> give me the link again and I'll approve it
[04:45] <nigelb> I created all of those
[04:45] <nigelb> https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/fix-colors/+merge/59254
[04:46] <mhall119> there you go
[04:46] <mhall119> feel free to land it in trunk
[04:46] <nigelb> \o/
[04:51] <nigelb> mhall119: erm, how do I land, just go to a fresh branch and pull from my branch?
[04:57] <nigelb> jcastro: colors have landed in trunk :)
[05:00] <mhall119> nigelb: generally you get a local branch of trunk, then "bzr merge" in your changes into it, then "bzr push" it back to lp:summit
[05:02] <mhall119> which is what it looks like you did
[05:02] <nigelb> mhall119: I have a whole setup for that
[05:02] <nigelb> (a) summit folder where I actually do changes
[05:02] <nigelb> then a summit-dev folder into which trunk is imported
[05:02] <nigelb> and then I branch from that to create new branches
[05:03] <nigelb> I import patches from my summit folder into the new branches to push them
[06:05] <JFo> well, looks like tornadoes are happening all around me, so if I am not online tomorrow I must have lost power. :-/
[06:05] <JFo> gonna go and gather up some things in case the worst happens
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <nigelb> morning dholbach :)
[07:12] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:14] <duanedesign> *yawn* morning friends
[07:20] <dholbach> hi duanedesign
[07:58] <dpm> good morning all
[08:06] <dholbach> hi dpm
[08:07] <dpm> hey dholbach, good morning!
[08:09] <dholbach>  /j #ubuntu-release-party
[08:12] <dpm> \o/
[09:28] <nigelb> popey: unfair :p
[09:28] <popey> :D
[09:28] <nigelb> brilliant social engineering hack though :)
[09:36]  * nigelb hugs Daviey 
[11:18] <dholbach> is there a hashtag that people use for ubuntu release already?
[11:20] <nigelb> not yet, no.
[11:22] <dholbach> which one would make sense?
[11:27] <Pendulum> #lastubuntureleasepeoplecanspell ;-)
[11:27] <dholbach> and more seriously? :)
[11:28] <dholbach> #ubuntu1104? #ubuntu #natty? #ubunturelease? #ubuntureleaseday?
[11:28] <dholbach> not very imaginative, I know :)
[11:40] <dholbach> I guess #ubuntu and #natty should be just fine :)
[11:40] <nigelb> Pendulum: I like that one :p
[11:44] <nigelb> dholbach: you should watch over cjwatson's shoulder's and tweet :p
[11:44] <nigelb> dholbach: like debian did ;)
[11:45] <dholbach> nigelb, that's a bit hard for me - there's a couple hundred kilometers and one ocean separating us
[11:45] <nigelb> dholbach: pfft, silly excuses :p
[11:45] <dholbach> yeah, I know
[11:45] <dholbach> nothing's impossible in the world of Ubuntu
[11:45] <nigelb> dholbach: also, I think some might call it blasphemous calling English Channel an ocean :p
[11:46] <dholbach> isn't it part of some ocean or something?
[11:47]  * nigelb looks at popey for English geography..
[11:47] <popey> Busiest shipping lane in the world
[11:47] <popey> English Channel :)
[12:01] <dholbach> do you think #ubuntu can beat #RoyalWedding today? ;-)
[12:02] <nigelb> lets work on that :P
[12:02] <nigelb> its all happening in the same city :p
[12:03] <dholbach> a couple of people RTed my @ubuntudev tweet
[12:11] <nigelb> lol, trolling with /nick in -r-p
[12:13] <daker> Happy Natty day :D
[12:32] <jcastro> Daviey: ping
[12:32] <jcastro> nigelb: nice work!
[12:32] <nigelb> jcastro: :)
[12:32] <Daviey> jcastro, o.
[12:33] <nigelb> jcastro: if someone doesn't like the colors, redirect them to me :)
[12:33] <jcastro> Daviey: sessions appear to be in the sidebar but not scheduled, did you cron it?
[12:36] <Daviey> jcastro, yes
[12:37] <Daviey> jcastro, those are all giving out put of:
[12:37] <Daviey> Gave up scheduling tr-server-dma-per-device-coherency
[12:37] <Daviey> Gave up scheduling server-o-user-namespace
[12:37] <Daviey> Gave up scheduling server-o-tomcat7-packaging
[12:37] <jcastro> any idea why?
[12:38] <jcastro> Daviey: oh, I need to rename serverandcloud to server in tracks in summit I take it
[12:39] <nigelb> oh noooo
[12:39] <nigelb> that means one more change I guess
[12:40] <jcastro> yeah sorry
[12:40] <jcastro> I just looked and he went "server" and not "serverandcloud"
[12:41] <nigelb> jcastro: are you changing for sure? I'll do it right away so daviey can update
[12:41] <jcastro> let's just go with server on summit, the visible text says "and cloud" anyway and I don't want to make an entire team rename stuff
[12:41] <nigelb> jcastro: or we can change it after 2 hours when I get home.
[12:41] <jcastro> nigelb: yeah let's just do it now
[12:41]  * nigelb gets to it
[12:46] <paultag> anyone know where doko is?
[12:46] <paultag> I can't find him anywhere on IRC, but nickserv says he's online
[12:46] <dholbach> paultag, try doko_
[12:47] <paultag> dholbach: PM him, do you mean?
[12:47] <dholbach> a "dok<tab>" in #ubuntu-devel told me
[12:47] <paultag> oh, hum. I'm not in #ubuntu-devel, just -motu
[12:47] <paultag> thanks dholbach
[12:49] <paultag> dholbach: all set, thanks :)
[12:52] <jcastro> dholbach: we did it!
[12:52] <jcastro> 11.04 is out and we didn't kill ourselves!
[12:58] <nigelb> jcastro: 'yet'
[12:58] <jcastro> heh
[12:59] <nigelb> im installing bzr to get the color changes in
[12:59] <nigelb> (work laptop)
[13:12] <jcastro> nigelb: having one color off isn't so bad
[13:12] <nigelb> jcastro: ok, I'll fix when I get home :)
[13:12] <jcastro> Daviey: but the ones stuck not scheduling should sort themselves now that I renamed the track right?
[13:12] <mhall119> jcastro: this has seemed to be a pretty calm release, especially for totally changing the desktop interface
[13:13] <jcastro> mhall119: we're only like an hour in
[13:13] <jcastro> mhall119: the next few weeks will tell the tale
[13:13] <mhall119> but we are an hour in, no last-minute CD image rebuilds
[13:13] <jcastro> oh oh, that kind of thing
[13:13] <jcastro> yeah, Kate ftw.
[13:14] <JanC> hm, why does "stackapplet" duplicate everything in an appindicator and the messaging menu now?
[13:14] <jcastro> JanC: I think he's in the process of moving to the messaging menu
[13:14] <jcastro> JanC: some help there would be appreciated, it shouldn't even be an applet imo, just messaging menu and notifications
[13:15] <JanC> well, and a configuration dialog that can be summoned somehow, I suppose
[13:18] <jcastro> it's in there in the applet
[13:18] <jcastro> it just kind of sucks, I think you need to like remember your username, etc.
[13:18] <jcastro> er, your user number or something
[13:19] <JanC> you need your user number
[13:20] <mhall119> yours isn't 1000?
[13:20] <jcastro> mine is 235
[13:21] <JanC> for askubuntu it's 9xx for me
[13:22] <JanC> jcastro: it has a check for associated accounts feature though, so you only need to remember one for all of stackexchange (if you link your accounts)
[13:37] <jcastro> JanC: yeah, it's just weird
[13:37] <jcastro> compared to like some of the nicer apps on phones the app's account thing kind of sucks
[13:37] <jcastro> but now that the lens is being made maybe we can combine both apps into one nice one
[14:06] <dholbach> jcastro_, ha - I saw your comment just now :)
[14:06]  * dholbach hugs jcastro_
[14:06] <jcastro_> heh
[14:08] <jcastro> Daviey: so .... the schedule
[14:09] <Daviey> jcastro, so so
[14:10] <jcastro> Daviey: hey wait a minute
[14:10] <jcastro> are you  guys like partying in millbank right now?
[14:11] <jcastro> "what about UDS?" "Who care, pass me that bottle of champagne!"
[14:11] <mhall119> probably, but they do that every day
[14:11] <jcastro> heh
[14:30] <james_w`> does anyone know how often the autoscheduler is currently being run, and when the last time it ran was?
[14:30] <james_w`> or indeed the script to associate sessions with their tracks
[14:31] <mhall119> jcastro probably knows, or Daviey
[14:31] <jcastro> james_w`: hourly.
[14:31] <jcastro> james_w`: something is stuck
[14:31] <james_w`> ok
[14:31] <jcastro> I panged, but I think Daviey is getting hammered at Millbank.
[14:32] <jcastro> james_w`: there's a script he runs that associates the sessions
[14:32] <jcastro> james_w`: the BPs are in the system (I see them in the admin interface), so they're getting imported at least
[14:32] <jcastro> james_w`: also I have you and salgado admin on summit
[14:32] <james_w`> jcastro, ah, thanks for admin access, I can see for myself now :-)
[14:33] <jcastro> yeah but his thing needs shell on the box iirc
[14:33] <jcastro> and afaict only Daviey has that
[14:33] <jcastro> though I'm sure you can ask IS
[14:33]  * Daviey reads scrollback
[14:34] <jcastro> james_w`: I was going to go "so we can get someone reliable to run the thing", but I figured I was trolling.
 james_w`: there's a script he runs that associates the sessions
[14:34] <Daviey> Yes, but it needs refreshing for the tracks every cycle
[14:34] <Daviey> james_w`, It is running hourly.
[14:35] <jcastro> Daviey: can we hook up james and salgado with access to that?
[14:36] <james_w`> Daviey, so it needs a code change?
[14:37] <Daviey> james_w`, Hmm... it's actually not quite as a i remember it
[14:37] <Daviey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/schedule/management/commands/trackfix.py
[14:37] <Daviey> essentially $TRACK-etctectetctetcetctetctetc
[14:38] <jcastro> Daviey: fyi I updated the slug in the admin page to be just "server"
[14:38] <james_w`> yeah
[14:38] <Daviey> It used to be more dirty... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/revision/12
[14:38] <james_w`> Daviey, I can fix that for us
[14:38] <Daviey> ^^ That is how i remembered it
[14:39] <james_w`> Daviey, we can do it that way, but be dynamic by querying tracks I guess?
[14:39] <Daviey> james_w`, Honestly, i do not mind.
[14:39] <james_w`> Daviey, leave it with me then
[14:40] <Daviey> james_w`, groovy.
[14:40] <jcastro> \o/
[14:41] <paultag> happy release day, all
[14:42] <popey> \o/
[14:43] <jcastro> I am glad we can enjoy the release, despite popey shutting down community mailing lists.
[14:43]  * jcastro snickers
[14:44]  * Pendulum giggles
[14:44] <jcastro> popey: j/k (hugs)
[14:44] <Pendulum> jcastro: no, it's not popey it's Canonical. Remember? Because the CC is all just Canonical employees masquarading as community members ;-)
[14:44] <paultag> facism
[14:45] <paultag> fascism, erm
[14:45] <paultag> canonical is only here to fuck up the ubuntu community with "money" or whatever
[14:45] <paultag> how dare they infringe on my first ammendment rights
[14:45] <jcastro> hah
[14:45] <dholbach> I probably should have told you before - I have a small budget for buying "community opinion"
[14:45] <jcastro> "It was all fine and dandy until you guys wanted to eat and support your families!"
[14:45] <paultag> which don't apply because all the servers are not in america anywho :)
[14:46] <paultag> dholbach: o'rly? :)
[14:46]  * popey ragequits
[14:46] <paultag> jcastro: :P
[14:46] <dholbach> jcastro, haha
[14:46] <jcastro> popey: that's it, I AM MOVING TO ARCH.
[14:48] <paultag> jcastro: you and your "unity" can go to arch, we don't want you on "Sounder Microsoft-sucks GNU/Linux+ 3.2r1-20010"
[14:50] <paultag> (Codename "Freedom Ferret")
[14:55] <jcastro> joey: this linaro call still on?
[14:57] <joey> jcastro: yah
[14:57] <joey> morn
[14:57] <jcastro> james_w`: hey no pressure, kiko's asking where the sessions are...
[14:57] <joey> jcastro: it's the only reason I got up at 6 :-)
[14:57] <joey> er 7
[15:01] <james_w`> jcastro, it's implemented, I'm just testing now
[15:01] <james_w`> and participating in two conf calls at the same time :-)
[15:01] <joey> jcastro: question - can you paste me the mini-summit blueprints
[15:02] <joey> jcastro: david wants to sign-up for those in the tool
[15:02] <maco> paultag: and also because ubuntu isnt a wing of the federal government
[15:02] <jcastro> joey: there aren't any minisummit blueprints, I scheduled them manually remember?
[15:02] <paultag> maco: :)
[15:03] <joey> jcastro: yeah. So how do we do get people to sign up for them and mark attendance required? :-)
[15:03] <joey> if it was easy we wouldn't be employed :-)
[15:03] <jcastro> joey: we don't, we just make sure that no other sessions from that track are scheduled around it
[15:03] <jcastro> it's impossible to schedule such large chunks because summit is designed to force people to move rooms
[15:03] <jcastro> so I had to manually schedule it and break shit
[15:04] <joey> jcastro: I don't think that will work because david will want to join other tracks since he's a cross-track person.
[15:04] <jcastro> joey: it's the best I can do
[15:04] <jcastro> I mean, we can try to assign it a bp if you want
[15:04] <jcastro> but I'm not sure it will associate the entire block with one bp
[15:05] <jcastro> since I had to break it up to make it fit on the schedule
[15:05] <jcastro> so like it would enforce attendance for the first hour
[15:07] <james_w`> jcastro, can we set david as the approver in the admin interface
[15:07] <czajkowski> Aloha
[15:09] <joey> jcastro: worth a try :-) Thanks though. I was afraid that was the right answer.
[15:09] <joey> jcastro: we can go play god and fix it all
[15:09] <jcastro> yeah
[15:09] <jcastro> it won't be so bad
[15:09] <jcastro> they're color coded
[15:09] <jcastro> it will take like 5 minutes
[15:10] <jcastro> james_w`: sure, what's the lp username?
[15:10] <joey> jcastro: thanks mate, you did well
[15:11] <james_w`> in fact
[15:12] <james_w`> I'm pretty sure we can create a BP and have people sign up there
[15:12] <james_w`> and the system will then do the normal participation essential thing
[15:12] <jcastro> joey: we can try it, but we should really test it
[15:12] <jcastro> it would suck if we think it works
[15:12] <jcastro> and it doesn't
[15:12] <jcastro> and he misses some critical session
[15:12] <james_w`> I'll test doing this locally
[15:13] <james_w`> it may cause it to get rescheduled
[15:16] <Daviey> james_w`, If a session has been manually scheduled, it will never be re-scheduled if there is a conflict.
[15:16] <Daviey> The assumption being, that if it was manually scheduled - the track leads know better than the algorithm
[15:20] <doctormo> Hmm, isn't there usually more of a fanfare for ubuntu releases?
[15:20] <Pendulum> doctormo: what do you mean? there's an entire bank holiday in the UK tomorrow to celebrate ;-)
[15:21] <doctormo> Pendulum: I mean on planet ubuntu and other sites... I only heard the news from external sources this time.
[15:21] <Pendulum> hmm
[15:22] <joey> jcastro: can you ping me that bp for the uds review  session?
[15:24] <james_w`> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/tracks-with-dashes/+merge/59375
[15:24] <james_w`> Daviey, fix for trackfix ^
[15:24] <Daviey> james_w`, ta
[15:26] <mhall119> doctormo: well, ubuntu.com was updated
[15:27] <jcastro> joey: I still need a description of the memory management summit for: http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/
[15:29] <mhall119> there's a memory management summit going on too?
[15:31] <joey> jcastro: jesse sent that to you a few days ago via email.  I can go find it and forward it if you don't have it
[15:31] <jcastro> please do
[15:31] <jcastro> I have graphics
[15:32] <joey> jcastro: oh I see... you're not crazy it was missing on the email. I'll get that done
[15:35] <Daviey> jcastro / james_w`: Landed that branch in production... grepped output after second run, http://pb.daviey.com/CdKT/raw/
[15:35] <james_w`> Daviey, sweet, thanks, I'll chase that up
[15:36] <james_w`> joey, did we kill the multimedia track?
[15:36] <joey> james_w`: yes
[15:36] <jcastro> yeah it's gone
[15:37] <james_w`> joey, linaro-multimedia-o-multimedia-and-landing-teams <- what track do you want that on?
[15:37] <james_w`> jcastro, do you know what track arm sessions are going in?
[15:37] <james_w`> ditto cert
[15:37] <jcastro> james_w`: I need to talk to davidm still
[15:37] <jcastro> as soon as I get a split second to
[15:37] <james_w`> kernel too
[15:37] <james_w`> sure
[15:37] <james_w`> just trying to take care of things if they are clear, not trying to hassle you
[15:37] <jcastro> james_w`: jono thinks they should go mostly in foundations
[15:37] <jcastro> or desktop, or kernel
[15:37] <jcastro> independant of the hw
[15:38] <joey> james_w`: Kurt and others from MM will not be there
[15:38] <joey> james_w`: so I don't think there will be anyone in attendance for that session from MM
[15:40] <doctormo> mhall119: Yes, I saw that.
[15:42] <jcastro> oh dude
[15:42] <jcastro> james_w`:
[15:42] <jcastro> I bet we could do different shades of green
[15:42] <james_w`> yeah
[15:42] <jcastro> in the colors
[15:42] <jcastro> that would be low hanging easy fruit
[15:43] <doctormo> jcastro: Need help on picking shades of green?
[15:45] <jussi> want want want: http://www.trimslice.com/images/Trim-Slice-brochure-low-res.jpg
[15:45] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600300/ are the Ubuntu sessions that won't be autoscheduled for Ubuntu currently
[15:46] <jussi> doctormo: I hear congratulations are in order?
[15:46] <james_w`> joey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600298/ are the problematic ones for Linaro
[15:46] <doctormo> jussi: Yes, I did successfully draw a picture.
[15:46] <jussi> hehe
[15:47] <doctormo> jussi: But yes, exciting times ahead.
[15:47] <jussi> doctormo: congratulations. :D
[15:48] <jono> hey folks
[15:48] <doctormo> jussi: Thanks for saying the full word. Appreciated.
[15:48] <jussi> :)
[15:48] <doctormo> hey jono, any exciting news?
[15:48] <jussi> Heya jono!!
[15:48] <jcastro> doctormo: james_w` will need help with the shades of green
[15:48] <jono> doctormo, nothing much, something going on today I think ;-)
[15:49] <jcastro> doctormo: but not right this sec, need to get the scheduler working.
[15:49] <jono> doctormo, hey congrats on the news!
[15:49] <jcastro> doctormo: hold that thought!
[15:49] <jcastro> doctormo: it'll be ~7 shades of green
[15:50] <doctormo> jono: I haven't seen much news of anything special going on today... unless the planet is broken ;-)
[15:52] <doctormo> Actually I think it might be, I posted a blog a while ago and it's not yet up on the planet.
[15:53] <jcastro> joey: I need to drop out to prep for a Qt call.
[15:53] <jcastro> joey: I think I'm done here, cna you run interference for me if something comes up?
[15:53] <jcastro> I don't want to interrupt this guy
[15:53] <joey> jcastro: yes sir, thanks for your help
[15:53] <nigelb> bah, stuck at work :\
[15:54] <james_w`> \o/
[15:54] <james_w`> we can use BPs for the mini-summits
[15:55] <james_w`> we have to use 1 per-day, but it should work, and then we can have people sign up to avoid the clashes
[15:55] <jcastro> ok, awesome
[15:56] <Technoviking> morning all
[15:56] <jcastro> joey: can you file those today? I've my hands full with my own team right now. :)
[15:57] <james_w`> jcastro, if you're happy with it then I'll take care of it
[15:57] <jcastro> james_w`: sure, roll with it!
[15:57] <james_w`> ok
[15:58] <jcastro> james_w`: do you know how to associate a BP with an existing session that was put into summit by hand?
[15:58] <james_w`> jcastro, they have to have the same name. If they don't then I don't think it is possible without a hack
[15:58] <jcastro> ok, whatever works
[15:59] <jcastro> james_w`: we'll need proper support in the future for long running sessions
[15:59] <jcastro> so that we can do that + sessions and get conflict resolution, etc. without having summit freak out because it's the same track back to back
[16:00] <james_w`> jcastro, I think you can just go to the "slots" parameter of any session to do that
[16:00] <jcastro> yeah
[16:00] <jcastro> the problem is
[16:00] <jcastro> modifying slots is painful
[16:01] <jcastro> and error prone
[16:01] <jcastro> because you have to do like 2 time conversions
[16:01] <jussi> Have peoples seen this? o.O WOW! http://pixlr.com/
[16:01] <doctormo> Hey jono, are people scared of upsetting you?
[16:02] <jono> doctormo, scared of upsetting me?
[16:02] <nigelb> jussi: o.O
[16:03] <doctormo> jono: Did I spell that wrong, frightened, fearful... etc?
[16:03] <jono> doctormo, what are you talking about?
[16:03] <doctormo> jono: Just having a conversation with someone, the claim is that bloggers aren't dissing Unity much because they're scared of you.
[16:03] <nigelb> doctormo: we're scared jono will force us to listen to his band :p
[16:03] <nigelb> (j/k)
[16:04] <jussi> nigelb: its flash based, but apart from that...
[16:04] <jono> doctormo, lol, I doubt it
[16:04] <nigelb> jussi: pretty rocking
[16:04] <jono> mind you, the beatings will continue until morale improves
[16:04] <jono> lol
[16:04] <doctormo> jono: My impression is the same. I'm not scared of jono bacon, or his band. ;-)
[16:05] <nigelb> jono: haha :)
[16:06] <doctormo> "Jonoites", funny word.
[16:12] <mhall119> doctormo: who are you talking to who's afraid of jono
[16:12] <mhall119> ?
[16:12] <mhall119> also, "baconbits" is better than "jonoites"
[16:12] <doctormo> mhall119: Can't really say, but they aren't pleased with the narwhal.
[16:13] <mhall119> what? somebody is unhappy with a new release of Ubuntu?
[16:13]  * mhall119 blames popey 
[16:14] <nigelb> mhall119: good call.
[16:20] <james_w`> jcastro, does it need time conversion? I just mean "Slots: 3" under scheduling details in the admin page for any session like you did for the mini-summits
[16:20] <jcastro> OH
[16:20] <jcastro> yeah yeah
[16:20] <james_w`> I don't see why that wouldn't work for BPs, though I don't know if the autoscheduler is smart enough to not screw that up
[16:20] <james_w`> but there aren't that many to schedule by hand if it does
[16:29] <jcastro> dpm: can you file this in the community track
[16:30] <dpm> jcastro, the qt session? yeah
[16:48] <jcastro> dpm: give him this link in your email: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o
[16:50] <dpm> jcastro, ok
[16:52] <jcastro> james_w`: Daviey: are you guys doing surgery or can I schedule some linaro plenaries?
[16:52] <jcastro> (sorry I was on a call, how's it coming along?)
[16:52] <james_w`> jcastro, I'm not doing anything currently
[16:52] <Daviey> jcastro, i'm not touching it atm
[16:53] <jcastro> joey: what's Zach's last name?
[16:56] <james_w`> jcastro, Pfeffer IIRC
[16:56] <daker> dholbach, terroriste attaque in marrakech
[16:56] <james_w`> yeah
[16:56] <dholbach> daker, yeah, I heard about it
[16:56] <dholbach> daker, a friend of mine was there like 3-4 weeks ago
[16:56] <joey> jcastro: what james_w` said
[16:57] <jcastro> joey: and who is 'plars'
[16:57] <jcastro> joey: I'm doing their plenaries now and I am just filling in their names
[16:57] <joey> jcastro: paul larson
[16:57]  * jcastro feels dumb
[16:57] <jcastro> I know paul
[16:58] <paultag> hurm?
[16:58] <jcastro> not you
[16:58] <jcastro> other paul
[16:58]  * paultag goes back to idle
[16:58] <jcastro> jono: do you keep a list of things you will mention during the plenary? I need to add an item for you. :)
[17:00] <jcastro> james_w`: hmm, any idea why new plenaries wouldn't be showing up in the sidebar?
[17:00] <james_w`> jcastro, I saw one
[17:00] <james_w`> jcastro, the "Linaro intro"
[17:00] <jcastro> yeah but none of the new ones are showing up, hmmm
[17:00] <jcastro> yeah
[17:00] <james_w`> oh, ok
[17:02] <james_w`> I don't know, I can't see any difference
[17:02] <jcastro> me either
[17:02] <jcastro> hey maybe it'll just sort itself when the other stuff gets scheduled
[17:02] <jcastro> (hah)
[17:02] <jono> jcastro, I don't have a formalized list, just email me and remind me
[17:02] <jono> :-)
[17:02] <jcastro> jono: ok
[17:03] <jcastro> james_w`: ok so sorry I was on another call, you mentioned you had it working and you were just testing it?
[17:03] <jcastro> what's left to do, just deploy?
[17:03] <james_w`> jcastro, Daviey did that
[17:03] <james_w`> jcastro, so most things are now correctly associated with tracks
[17:03] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600300/ are the Ubuntu ones that aren't and so won't be autoscheduled
[17:04] <jcastro> ok so I'm confused
[17:04] <jcastro> we did the colors already right?
[17:04] <james_w`> that I don't know
[17:04] <james_w`> I think so as I saw some changes
[17:04] <jcastro> also the sessions are still not on the schedule
[17:04] <jcastro> it's still the same bunch from the initial import
[17:05] <nigelb> can someone give me some RT love? https://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/63634595723223040
[17:05] <james_w`> jcastro, I don't know if the autoscheduler has run, I don't have any visibility of that
[17:06] <jcastro> Daviey: yo, put the champagne down.
[17:07] <jcastro> james_w`: he's probably in the server room with elmo putting more hamsters in the summit machine
[17:07] <james_w`> heh
[17:10] <jcastro> james_w`: mhall119: when he's not AFK can we make it so you guys have access to the machine?
[17:10] <jcastro> bus factor!
[17:10] <james_w`> I think mhall119 but not me
[17:11] <james_w`> I don't have the experience, and the fewest people you can get away with is better with something that is fragile
[17:12] <maco> james_w`: why do you have a ` ?
[17:12] <nigelb> maco: didn't you hear? its the new thing ;)
[17:12] <maco> it broke my /msg!
[17:12] <maco> :P
[17:12] <james_w`> :-)
[17:13] <james_w`> because I apparently reconnected overnight, and haven't been able to catch my breath yet today
[17:14] <jcastro> james_w`: I forgot to eat lunch!
[17:14] <nigelb> laters all. leaving home.
[17:14] <nigelb> jcastro: pfft
[17:14] <jcastro> hey nigelb
[17:14] <james_w`> I'm still working up to breakfast!
[17:14] <jcastro> did Daviey commit your color fixes?
[17:14] <maco> im nursing a headache
[17:14] <nigelb> leaving *for home
[17:14] <nigelb> jcastro: didn't get a chance to do it, amazon rds screwed us over. I'm still at work.
[17:15] <jcastro> no I mean from before
[17:15] <jcastro> ok
[17:15] <nigelb> last night, yes.
[17:15] <jcastro> not the serverandcloud->server thing
[17:15] <jcastro> oh ok
[17:15] <jcastro> so it's mostly right, good enough for now
[17:15] <nigelb> ah, I commited it and Daviey pushed it today
[17:15] <nigelb> so, that's up
[17:15] <jcastro> right
[17:15] <jcastro> I'm not convinced that was actually deployed yet, otherwise there would be colors in the boxes
[17:15] <nigelb> serverandcloud->server, gimme 30 mins to grab dinner, get home, and fix it.
[17:16] <nigelb> I did see colors in the boxes earlier today
[17:16] <jcastro> yeah, for the ones where they happened to have the same track name last UDS
[17:16] <jcastro> so like ... "other"
[17:16] <jcastro> and "hardware"
[17:16]  * nigelb looks
[17:17] <nigelb> jcastro: linaro grphics has color
[17:17] <nigelb> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-09/
[17:17] <maco> i should make purple & orange xmas ornaments out of egg shells
[17:17] <nigelb> so does desktop
[17:17] <nigelb> fairly sure it wasn't there
[17:17] <maco> with narwhals on them
[17:17] <JanC> http://noc.bit.nl/stackgraph.php?stackconf=ubuntu   ☺
[17:17] <maco> for lulz
[17:17] <jcastro> right but desktop- and community- don't have colors
[17:17] <jcastro> and they should
[17:18] <nigelb> jcastro: I see color for desktop
[17:18] <nigelb> community is pink
[17:18] <jcastro> AH!
[17:18] <jcastro> CTRL-F5!!!!
[17:18] <nigelb> hahah
[17:18] <nigelb> I was about to suggest
[17:18] <jcastro> hey so we were thinking
[17:18] <jcastro> 5 shades of green for linaro tracks
[17:19] <jcastro> nigelb: but maybe doctormo can help us with the color choosing
[17:19] <nigelb> I did color the android track with the 'right' green
[17:19] <jcastro> haha, awesome
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: agave
[17:19] <maco> jcastro: oh and then they can argue over whether it's hunter green or forest green for a certain track?
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: use monochrome, those work awesome
[17:19] <nigelb> sure, just get me the right shades. I choose really really differnt colors so that they can be identified.
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: trust me
[17:19] <jcastro> maco: I believe you mean GNU/green
[17:20] <jcastro> james_w`: ok so really, the tracks getting stuck is the only issue
[17:20] <nigelb> maco: no its like, hrm, that green is kernel, oh wait, is too light, that's android!
[17:20] <jcastro> james_w`: and maybe we just need to wait until the top of  the hour?
[17:20] <nigelb> oh man
[17:20] <nigelb> bikeshed :p
[17:20] <nigelb> what's th color of linaro :p
[17:20] <jcastro> Can I have my icon in blue? </fightclub>
[17:21] <james_w`> jcastro, most should be fixed now, except those (cert, arm, kernel) where they aren't tracks
[17:21] <nigelb> ok, I really need to go home or I'll not find a place open for dinner :\
[17:21] <james_w`> jcastro, I think it's just the autoscheduler to run now, but I guess it has by now and that points to another problem
[17:21] <jcastro> james_w`: if you click edit on a day's page you'll see the ones in the sidebar, those are  the ones I mean
[17:22] <james_w`> yeah
[17:22] <jcastro> and a bunch of those look named right to me
[17:22] <jcastro> james_w`: oh, and the plenaries showed up
[17:22] <jcastro> the hamsters must have helped
[17:23] <james_w`> heh
[17:24] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/track/community/
[17:24] <jcastro> yeah baby, there's the badger!
[17:25] <james_w`> jcastro, can you give me an example of one that you think should be right from the sidebar, and I'll investigate
[17:26] <jcastro> linaro-platforms-o-server-image
[17:26] <jcastro> for example
[17:27] <jcastro> james_w`: also, is there a way to make it so that even if they don't have a track they just get on the schedule (and just stay white?)
[17:28] <james_w`> probably
[17:28] <jcastro> jono: where should DX tracks go?
[17:29] <jono> jcastro, DX tracks?
[17:29] <jono> you mean sessions?
[17:29] <jcastro> oh, right
[17:29] <jcastro> sorry, long day
[17:29] <jono> jcastro, desktop
[17:33] <dholbach> alright my friends - enjoy release day - see you all tomorrow
[17:35] <jcastro> bye daniel!
[17:35] <jcastro> james_w`: ok I've renamed the DX ones so those should get sorted
[17:36] <james_w`> sweet
[17:38] <james_w`> most of the ubuntu tracks seem to be doing ok now
[17:38] <james_w`> linaro ones certainly aren't
[17:38] <james_w`> I can't see why the linaro-platforms sessions aren't picking up their track
[17:40] <jcastro> yeah I don't know why
[17:40] <jcastro> I have the stubs correct
[17:42] <jcastro> james_w`: oddly enough, linaro graphics seems to be scheduled
[17:43] <james_w`> jcastro, I did one by hand to get it at a specific time
[17:43] <jcastro> ah
[17:49] <james_w`> jcastro, do you know why the rooms all seem to be associated with a few tracks?
[17:51] <james_w`> community, design, desktop, foundations, android, other, security, server
[17:56] <jcastro> james_w`: oh dude, that has to be it!
[17:56] <jcastro> probably because they were all created on the same day
[17:56] <jcastro> I didn't even know this was possiblre
[17:56] <james_w`> except that hardware isn't in the list, and they have sessions scheduled?
[17:56] <jcastro> well
[17:57] <mhall119> jcastro: if you can get me access to the summit machine, I'd be happy
[17:57] <jcastro> james_w`: maybe select all the tracks for all the rooms
[17:57] <jcastro> wait until the next cron run
[17:57] <jcastro> and see what happens?
[17:57] <james_w`> yeah
[17:57] <jcastro> ok
[17:57] <jcastro> on it
[17:57] <james_w`> I'd really like a crontab -l from that machine
[17:57] <james_w`> jcastro, I'll start from the bottom :-)
[17:58] <jcastro> I have them open
[17:58] <jcastro> I can do it
[18:01]  * james_w` leaves things for a couple of hours in the hope that they shake out and work
[18:01] <jcastro> indeed
[18:01] <jcastro> now is a good time for lunch
[18:01] <jcastro> james_w`: high five o/
[18:14] <mhall119> Daviey: jcastro: davidm says the new guidebook app and website are live, so we can land those changes and get them out
[18:20] <nigelb> ok, home.
[18:20] <nigelb> jcastro: doing the colors, do you have anything else that needs to be fixed NOW while I'm at it?
[18:20] <nigelb> mhall119: ^^
[18:24] <jcastro> nigelb: nope
[18:24] <jcastro> just the colors
[18:25] <jcastro> that's serverandcloud -> server right?
[18:25] <mhall119> nigelb: the US economy is broken, if you have time
[18:25] <nigelb> linaro?
[18:25] <jcastro> oh right
[18:25] <jcastro> doctormo: ping
[18:25] <nigelb> mhall119: That's WILLNOTBEFIXED.
[18:25] <mhall119> sadly you're right
[18:25] <jcastro> nigelb: ok so we need 6 more shades of green
[18:25] <jcastro> not counting the android green
[18:26] <mhall119> lol
[18:26] <jcastro> let's see what doctormo says
[18:26] <jcastro> I am not convinced we can do 7 shades total and have those being distinguishable on the screen
[18:27] <jcastro> nigelb: hey you have it running locally so you can like try something and show me a screenshot right?
[18:28] <nigelb> jcastro: yeah
[18:28] <jcastro> can you try like a green border perhaps?
[18:28] <jcastro> maybe that might stand out better
[18:28] <nigelb> ah, yes.
[18:28] <nigelb> 2 mins
[18:28] <nigelb> multi-tasking dinner :p
[18:28] <jcastro> so maybe we can just keep them with the colors they have and just add a green border or something
[18:28] <nigelb> yeah, i like it
[18:29] <jcastro> nigelb: no rush, this is purely cosmetic compared to the other stuff, heh
[18:29] <mhall119> jcastro: let's introduce patterns! stripes, gradients, plaids
[18:29] <jcastro> They've gone the plaid!
[18:29] <nigelb> hah
[18:30] <mhall119> win
[18:33] <jcastro> JFo: hey
[18:33] <JFo> jcastro, howdy
[18:33] <jcastro> now that we have an amazon store
[18:33] <jcastro> http://www.amazon.com/99-Darkest-Pieces-Classical-Music/dp/B0048NUUS2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304012023&sr=1-1-fkmr0
[18:34] <jcastro> this has carried me for the past day
[18:34] <jcastro> it's like 11 hours of music for 99 cents
[18:34] <JFo> ooh
[18:34] <JFo> very nice
[18:35] <JFo> there is some really great stuff in there
[18:35] <jcastro> I know
[18:35] <jcastro> for a dollar
[18:36] <JFo> right
[18:36] <JFo> can't beat it with a stick
[18:37] <james_w`> it looks like there is a border for linaro sessions already, it's just 1px green
[18:37] <jcastro> oh
[18:38] <jcastro> maybe we should just fatten it up a bit?
[18:38] <jcastro> james_w`: I wonder if that would be better than that current black icon looking thing
[18:38] <james_w`> perhaps we should have the logo on transparent rather than black, and make the border 2 or 3 px?
[18:39] <jcastro> yeah, for sure a transparent logo would be better
[18:42] <james_w`> I'll see what I can do
[19:02] <jcastro> JanC: I didn't know you were part of the 32 pixel launcher club
[19:02] <jcastro> I am too!
[19:04] <JanC> jcastro: I don't even tell them to do it, they all tell me they changed that
[19:04] <jcastro> right
[19:05] <jcastro> it's the immaculate launcher width
[19:06] <JanC> maybe they should also fold all "external disks" in 1 icon
[19:06] <JanC> it doesn't help that I have multiple partitions on my USB stick etc.
[19:08] <JanC> currently I have space for 1 extra 32 pixel icon, and this is a Full HD screen...
[19:09] <JanC> maybe instead of the scroll stuff, it should make icons smaller...
[19:47] <nigelb> jcastro: do you remember how to automatically cerate slots?
[19:47] <nigelb> I want to do that for screenshots for you
[19:49] <nigelb> mhall119: ^^
[19:52] <jcastro> nigelb: cerate?
[19:52] <nigelb> *create :)
[19:54] <nigelb> oh wait
[19:54] <nigelb> found it
[19:57] <Pici> Could someone with the ability to modify help.u.c add the Natty MD5SUMS to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ?
[19:57] <Pici> Or tell me who to poke about it? ;)
[20:08] <mhall119> nigelb: ./manage.py initslots
[20:08] <mhall119> dang, I upgraded and I have no wireless anymore
[20:09] <nigelb> mhall119: I found that. I'm getting an error with autogenerated slots :\
[20:09] <mhall119> did you set dates on your summit record?
[20:09] <nigelb> yeah, I id
[20:09] <nigelb> *did
[20:09] <mhall119> hmm...
[20:10] <nigelb> those dates are in the past, but it shouldn
[20:10] <nigelb> *shouldn't matter
[20:10] <nigelb> slots are generated correctly.
[20:11] <nigelb> mhall119: http://dpaste.com/536926/
[20:13] <nigelb> mhall119: ah, got it
[20:14] <nigelb> didn't select a plenary room
[20:14] <jcastro> oh right
[20:14] <jcastro> there's a bug about that
[20:14] <jcastro> if you don't select a plenary the entire thing blows up in your face
[20:15] <nigelb> yeah, it did for me
[20:15] <nigelb> ok, green border sucks
[20:15] <jcastro> heh
[20:23] <nigelb> jcastro: suggestions welcome on keeping linaro separate
[20:24] <jcastro> I guess we can try the 7 shades of green?
[20:24] <jcastro> maybe doctormo can outclever us out of this
[20:24] <nigelb> yeah
[20:24] <nigelb> where art doctorm
[20:26] <maco> jcastro: polka dots
[20:27] <maco> green polka dots, green vertical stripes, green diagonal stripes, green horizontal stripes, green checkerboard
[20:27] <maco> need 3 more...
[20:27] <maco> oh, solid
[20:27] <maco> green gingham, and green pinstripe
[20:27] <jcastro> james_w`: I wonder if setting all the linaro tracks one green would help or hinder
[20:27] <nigelb> maco: no no, we just need one scheme for whole of linaro so people can go  "oh that's a linaro track.
[20:28] <nigelb> maco: at the same time differentiating between different tracks
[20:28] <maco> nigelb: well if none of the non-linaro tracks have green or funky patterns, we're fine!
[20:28] <maco> fine replace solid green with green bunny rabbits :P
[20:28] <maco> then they totally can't mix it up with non-linaro
[20:28] <nigelb> maco: haha
[20:28] <nigelb> maco: doctormo can totally give us bunny rabbits
[20:29] <maco> (guess how recently ive been in a fabric store near the quilting section?)
[20:29] <nigelb> are you in one right now? :)
[20:29] <maco> no
[20:29] <nigelb> (yeah, you're geeky enough ot be in one and be on IRC from there :P)
[20:29] <maco> usually if im in a craft store, i'm knitting as i walk, not irc'ing as i walk
[20:30] <nigelb> heh
[20:30] <nigelb> im guessing last night or last weekend
[20:30] <maco> tuesday
[20:30] <nigelb> off by a day :)
[20:31] <nigelb> not bad, considering I'm half way across the world :p
[20:32] <nigelb> jcastro: im off to bed, let me know when doctormo gives us green bunny pattern ;)
[20:32] <jcastro> sure
[20:33] <jcastro> high 5!
[20:33]  * nigelb ^5 jcastro :)
[20:33] <jcastro> james_w`: ugh, waiting did nothing
[20:34] <james_w`> yeah
[20:34] <james_w`> want to RT a request to get mhall119/me shell access?
[20:35] <jcastro> Daviey: I thought you were doing this already
[20:35] <jcastro> james_w`: I can rt, know the machine's name?
[20:35] <james_w`> summit.ubuntu.com? :-)
[20:35] <jcastro> hah
[20:35] <james_w`> looks like cranberry
[20:36] <james_w`> don't if there what chroots/groups/etc. are involved if any, so probably best to say that it is to work on that service, and they can figure it out
[20:36] <james_w`> looks like we're without a vanguard though currently
[20:37] <jcastro> filed
[20:37] <mhall119> I don't think there's a chroot
[20:37] <jcastro> hold for your RT#
[20:37] <jcastro> mhall119: james_w`: I'm going to end up all my good IS karma with etherpad so if you guys can be the ones to ask about this one it would help me out. :)
[20:37] <jcastro> #45561
[20:38] <james_w`> jcastro, will do
[20:39] <mhall119> jcastro: Daviey might know
[20:53] <Pici> meh.  Lots of people complaining today.
[20:54]  * pleia2 hugs Pici 
[20:54] <jcastro> heh
[20:54] <pleia2> I've gotten a few "I don't hate Unity as much as I thought I would, it's growing on me"
[20:54] <jcastro> yeah
[20:55] <maco> my coworkers asked how unity is
[20:55] <jcastro> "as it turns up all the made up rumors were wrong!"
[20:55] <james_w`> jcastro, we're in
[20:55] <maco> i told them "i dont know, i'm a kde user"
[20:55] <jcastro> james_w`: OMG, really?
[20:55] <maco> and one of them was kinda "woo! kde!"
[20:55] <james_w`> yep
[20:55] <jcastro> james_w`: you're my favorite canadian now
[20:55] <james_w`> hah
[20:55] <james_w`> jcastro, hey, that reminds me, we're coming through hockeytown in September
[20:56] <jcastro> james_w`: I will be gone, moving to florida for a year
[20:56] <james_w`> ah yeah
[20:56] <james_w`> damn
[20:56] <james_w`> we'll just have to drive via Florida then
[20:57] <Pici> We're getting some positive remarks about it, but not as many as I'd hope.  Although it is a support channel, so the people coming through are always disproportionally the ones having issues.
[20:58] <james_w`> oh god
[20:58] <jcastro> james_w`: I am purposely finding a place next to the beach with a guest house if I can. :D
[20:58] <jcastro> but the area is expensive
[20:58] <james_w`> sync from LP seems to be broken due to someone having a too-long name on LP
[20:59] <jcastro> james_w`: O_O I didn't even know that was possible
[20:59] <Pici> I guess we can't blame popey for that one :/
[20:59] <jcastro> "Alan Pope and Community Council shut down Launchpad Blueprints"
[20:59] <maco> Pici: blame mary poppins for creating a supercalifragilisticexpyalidocious account?
[20:59] <james_w`> https://launchpad.net/~elkafil
[21:00] <jcastro> james_w`: I can rename it if you want, which spec?
[21:00] <maco> james_w`: hahaha
[21:00] <james_w`> nope, that person
[21:00] <maco> james_w`: is that "too long" or "parse fail"?
[21:00] <james_w`> "too long"
[21:00] <Pici> ouch
[21:00] <james_w`> because no-one in world has more than 30 characters in their name
[21:01]  * maco counts the letters in her boyfriend's brother-in-law's name
[21:01] <maco> 41
[21:03] <james_w`>     first_name = models.CharField(_('first name'), max_length=30, blank=True)
[21:03] <james_w`>     last_name = models.CharField(_('last name'), max_length=30, blank=True)
[21:03] <maco> oh so its 60 max
[21:03] <maco> 30 per name
[21:04] <maco> if you have 3 words in your realname field...how does break up first & last?
[21:06] <james_w`> heh
[21:06] <james_w`> yeah
[21:06] <james_w`> virtually every system seems to make this mistake
[21:06] <mhall119> jcastro: was it you who was saying that your laptop ran hot under Unity?
[21:06] <mhall119> or akgraner ?
[21:07] <jcastro> has to be ak
[21:07] <maco> akgraner's laptop runs hot under every new release
[21:07] <jcastro> pete shipped the laptop to someone on the kernel team to look at it
[21:07] <mhall119> mine is hot now...
[21:07] <james_w`> mhall119, are you able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/fix-long-names/+merge/59416 real quick?
[21:17] <mhall119> james_w`: approved
[21:17] <james_w`> mhall119, would you land please?
[21:17] <james_w`> I can deploy the code, but not land it :-)
[21:17] <james_w`> and thanks!
[21:22] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600433/ <- people and sessions for this UDS
[21:23] <james_w`> so about 200 sessions being exposed by LP currently, which is up by ~100 from a couple of days ago
[21:23] <mhall119> james_w`: landed
[21:23] <james_w`> thanks
[21:24] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600434/ <- trying to assign tracks to sessions
[21:25] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600435/ <- so those are the remaining problematic ones
[21:25] <james_w`> kernel/cert/qa/plenary
[21:27] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600436/ <- output of trying to autoschedule, so it's refusing to schedule a bunch of linaro sessions for no good reason that I know of
[21:29] <jcastro> james_w`: we don't really care what the name is, the ones we care about are colored, so if you can make it so the kernel/cert/etc, ones just get scheduled (and they remain white) that would be fine too
[21:29] <james_w`> jcastro, I looked at that briefly and it's got something to do with the room assignment thing I think
[21:30] <james_w`> I ran away, but I can look again
[21:30] <jcastro> oh ok
[21:30] <james_w`> the other alternative is to force e.g. kernel -> hardware track
[21:30] <jcastro> you know what
[21:30] <jcastro> that is a good idea
[21:30] <jcastro> let me run it by pete
[21:31] <jcastro> james_w`: hey, wait a sec
[21:32] <jcastro> james_w`: does that break stuff or just not autoschedule?
[21:32] <jcastro> I mean, if they don't autoschedule that's fine, then the track lead needs to schedule by hand
[21:32] <james_w`> I don't know that it breaks anything
[21:32] <james_w`> I don't understand this bit of the code though
[21:32] <james_w`> so give me a few to dig through it and we can decide what to do
[21:35] <james_w`> hmm
[21:35] <james_w`> trackfix seems to not actually have any effect
[21:35] <james_w`> it didn't make the changes that it said that it did
[21:35] <james_w`> do you need to save related sets explicitly separate to the model itself I wonder?
[21:37] <james_w`> yeah, I'm not sure this ever worked :-)
[21:40] <jcastro> james_w`: I know right, this is the guy who rewrote init too. :p
[21:40] <james_w`> :-)
[21:41] <james_w`> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/track/linaro-platforms/
[21:43] <jcastro> james_w`: ok kernel is refiling under other-kernel-o-whatever
[21:44] <james_w`> ok
[21:44] <james_w`> that just leaves three cert- and one qa-
[21:44] <james_w`> I think we don't have to have them do that if they don't want though
[21:44] <james_w`> it's not scheduling sessions without a track, as we have assigned all tracks to all rooms
[21:45] <james_w`> given that we don't care about track/room affinity any more I'm pretty sure we can delete a bunch of this code and just try scheduling everything in all rooms
[21:45] <james_w`> with a change to not try and schedule plenaries
[21:46] <james_w`> jcastro, check out the unscheduled sessions offered when you edit now
[21:47] <james_w`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600448/
[21:48] <jcastro> whoa
[21:48] <jcastro> I see stuff filled in!
[21:50] <jcastro> james_w`: whatever you did
[21:50] <jcastro> it's working
[21:50] <james_w`> I fixed it
[21:51] <jcastro> joey: ok, check out the schedule now
[21:51] <jcastro> joey: for example: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-09/?
[21:51] <jcastro> see that gray session at 1500, clashes with the grey summit session, so you edit and just move it to the morning or something
[21:52] <jcastro> joey: basically, the first three days shouldn't have grey boxes on the schedule other than the summit
[21:52] <james_w`> jcastro, joey: I'd still like to get that fixed properly
[21:53] <james_w`> jesse registered the BPs for the mini-summit that people could mark themselves as essential on, but used the wrong names
[21:53] <jcastro> oh ok so do you think rematching them would fix that?
[21:54] <jcastro> james_w`: hmm, I just realized, other than the color/branding, that's really the only bug left
[21:55] <james_w`> jcastro, how about I delete the ones you originally created, extend the length of his BP ones, and schedule them in the same time/place as the old ones?
[21:55] <jcastro> ok
[21:55] <jcastro> worth a shot
[21:56] <james_w`> I'll delete yours as the last step, so we can always roll back
[22:00] <james_w`> whoa!
[22:00] <james_w`> did I just somehow create a slot at 2100
[22:00] <james_w`> ?
[22:05] <mhall119> unity --replace
[22:08] <james_w`> ok, moved the MM summit over to the BP-based meetings, it seems to have gone ok
[22:08] <james_w`> we have a rogue slot on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-11/ though
[22:08] <james_w`> I have to go make dinner now though
[22:12] <mhall119> okay, that's 3 times Unity has totally died on me
[22:23] <joey> jcastro, james_w` - I see the 15:00 graphics item. Shall I manually move it?
[22:23] <jcastro> joey: no!
[22:23] <joey> good
[22:23] <jcastro> joey: james is going to try to make it automagic
[22:28] <james_w`> joey, fixed
[22:28] <james_w`> I had to do it by hand this time, but it won't happen if there are any more graphics sessions added
[22:46] <mhall119> filed my first Unity bug
[22:47] <mhall119> bug 772737
[22:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 772737 in unity "compiz idle CPU increases when Thunderbird is running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772737
[22:47] <mhall119> akgraner: did you use thunderbird?
[22:47] <Technoviking> is there ways to use thunderbird in the messaging menu
[22:48] <Technoviking> maybe I should avoid TB
[22:48] <Technoviking> heh
[22:48] <mhall119> Technoviking: yeah, thunderbird has an extension that'll put it in the messaging menu
[22:50] <Technoviking> mhall119: has lightning calendar been upgraded for the current version of TB
[22:51] <mhall119> Technoviking: I'm using it, so I guess so
[22:52] <Technoviking> mhall199: this one https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[22:53] <Technoviking> for the messaging menu
[22:59] <mhall119> I honestly don't remember where I got it from now
[22:59] <mhall119> OMG!Ubuntu! had an article on it, and I followed their links
[23:00] <Technoviking> thanks
[23:00] <Technoviking> dang it, lightning not 64 bit
[23:00] <james_w`> jcastro, would you like me to put the autoscheduler in cron for the next week?
[23:13] <jcastro> james_w`: I say just keep it on from now on
[23:13] <jcastro> james_w`: also, what dates are you here? ends up we're going to be back here 22-25 september
[23:33] <joey> james_w`, jcastro - fyi, the linaro-kernel  linus tracks are in reverse order
[23:33] <joey> s/tracks/sessions
[23:33] <joey> on Monday
[23:34] <joey> although at the moment the agenda is fluid so....
[23:35] <james_w`> jcastro, the night of the 23rd
[23:35] <jcastro> james_w`: oh dude perfect!
[23:35] <james_w`> joey, yeah, the autoscheduler doesn't know that they are supposed to be in an order :-)
[23:36] <james_w`> jcastro, we're flying out of DFW on the Saturday morning
[23:36] <jcastro> it looks like this is doable!
[23:37] <joey> james_w`: btw I added a #9 to https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Infrastructure/Specs/SummitEnhancements#preview
[23:37] <james_w`> joey, yay, an easy one!
[23:37] <james_w`> (probably)
[23:39] <joey> I like the  linaro sprinkles on the tracks!
[23:40] <joey> ok jcastro next problem :-)  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/   10:00 we have two presentations going on at the same time that the same people will likely be interested in: Life in Linaro and Upstreaming for newbies
[23:41] <jcastro> joey: the people need to mark themselves as "participation required" in the respective BPs
[23:41] <jcastro> that's how the scheduler works
[23:41] <jcastro> joey: however we just kicked it in
[23:42] <joey> Yeah, right, sorry. A bit tired and not on my came
[23:42] <jcastro> middle of next weekish I say fix it by hand, but for now let the system sort itself
[23:42] <jcastro> it's ok, I am smoked too dude.
[23:42] <james_w`> does the scheduler re-schedule things when people change that?
[23:42] <jcastro> joey: welcome to UDS planning.
[23:42] <jcastro> james_w`: that's what i was told a while back
[23:42] <jcastro> and I've never seen it not do that
[23:43] <jcastro> but like with everything in summit, I doublecheck everything by hand anyway
[23:43] <joey> s/came/game
[23:43] <joey> see!
[23:43] <joey> lol
[23:43] <jcastro> joey: we have a ton of time, normally what you see here is how we are on the thursday before UDS. So we're doing well
[23:43] <james_w`> yeah, I was just looking at the code, and couldn't see it
[23:43] <james_w`> hopefully it does, given that no-one has had a chance to subscribe to anything yet
[23:43] <joey> jcastro: yeah I need to get Matt to email out to the Linaro folk about signing up for those two to avoid the overlap
[23:43] <joey> I've pinged him
[23:44] <jcastro> joey: what's nice is when you move stuff by hand, it won't let you make more conflicts
[23:44] <jcastro> so like, it will force you to put a session in a spot where everyone can attend
[23:44] <james_w`> and I've just realised that approver doesn't mean required at the session, so I've got to go and subscribe to all the team sessions explicitly
[23:46] <jcastro> akgraner: do you have carl @ s76's contact info?
[23:47] <joey> jcastro: I still do I think
[23:47] <joey> jcastro: whatcha need? phone, email, ?
[23:47] <jcastro> joey: I would like that pls. no rush.
[23:47] <jcastro> email
[23:48] <joey> "Carl Richell" <carl@system76.com>,
[23:49] <jcastro> that was my guess, glad my instinct was on
[23:53] <joey> ok, here goes nutting - natty upgrade commencing