/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/28/#ubuntu-learning.txt

DarkwingDuck:D01:16
DarkwingDuckpleia2: ping01:22
pleia2yo01:22
DarkwingDuckHiya. :D Just wanted to say i remembered and I've signed up for the LP team01:23
DarkwingDuckfinally01:23
pleia2oh yeah, approved01:23
DarkwingDuckKk01:24
pleia2ok, meeting time :)01:31
pleia2who all is here for it?01:31
* pleia2 nudges DarkwingDuck 01:31
DarkwingDuck^01:32
pleia2:)01:32
pleia2ok, once upon a time there was the Ubuntu Learning project https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning01:32
DarkwingDuckSorry, reading through my 500 bug report emails for docs01:32
pleia2doctormo wrote some classes, taught some classes at his loco, but sadly we didn't get much beyond that, caught up in licensing, formatting and possible collaboration with docs and manual folks01:33
DarkwingDuckOh joy. :)01:33
pleia2I think we just need to get past all this and write some stuff so we can teach ubuntu stuff at our locos01:34
* DarkwingDuck nods01:34
DarkwingDuckIf we are looking for ideas/tips for Locos01:34
pleia2we have server space at ubuntu-owl.org so we should just write in formats we're familiar with, use CC-BY-SA content from the wiki and *buntu docs01:35
DarkwingDuckWe can keep the programs quite simle designed for them.01:35
* DarkwingDuck nods01:35
pleia2simple is good01:35
DarkwingDuckI believe CC-BY-SA that the docs use is 2.501:36
DarkwingDuckBut, i was thinking of good topics.01:36
DarkwingDuckBug triage/bug days01:36
DarkwingDucktesting ISOs01:36
DarkwingDuckgroup activities01:36
* pleia2 nods01:36
pleia2so we have a bunch of sections outlined in our Materials section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Materials01:37
DarkwingDuckI know for Kubuntu i'm building a help center that will include video tutorials01:37
DarkwingDuckAhh, there we go.01:37
DarkwingDuckI'm going to be digging through the pages and see what we can find.01:37
pleia2I think bugs, testing, etc would all go into development01:38
DarkwingDuckAye.01:38
pleia2most of what we're doing with this project is already documented (or should be) so I think our job just needs to be delivering it to teachers/loco teams with a nice bow on top01:38
DarkwingDuckSo, what we have right now is a basic outline01:38
DarkwingDuckAye01:38
pleia2and in the process we can update the proper documentatino :)01:39
DarkwingDuckSweet01:39
DarkwingDuckWhen is UDS?01:39
pleia2in about a week and a half01:39
DarkwingDuckI wonder if we could get this in there...01:40
pleia2possibly, but I think I might be the only one there01:40
DarkwingDuckIt's okay. i'm attending via IRC.01:40
DarkwingDuckAnd you never know who will show up.01:41
pleia2I took a break from this team because it was all talk, the thought of another UDS brainstorming session troubles me :)01:41
DarkwingDucklol01:41
DarkwingDuckOkay, I'll look though and let's see if we can't get a timeline punched out to get these things released.01:42
pleia2I also think we should toss some examples together01:42
DarkwingDuckAye01:42
pleia2maybe each of us can toss something together and we can compare in a couple weeks?01:42
DarkwingDuckI also think we should build some presentations as well as gather the training marerial01:43
pleia2yeah01:43
DarkwingDuckIt would help those speakers who want to do a talk on a subject at a conference01:43
doctormopleia2: Yes, but we still learned a lot from it.01:43
DarkwingDuckhey doctormo01:43
pleia2doctormo: indeed!01:43
pleia2DarkwingDuck: what I'm thinking is that we write a practical introduction for a subject with tips about teaching it, then link to documentation for doing the task (like iso testing docs)01:44
doctormoHey DarkwingDuck, where's Scrooge McDuck these days?01:44
pleia2so the teacher reads the practical intro, prints out iso testing docs for students, or something smiliar01:45
doctormopleia2: I'm thinking about the video/homework in class model of teaching physical classes.01:45
DarkwingDuckdoctormo: Scrooge is still rolling in his coinage01:45
pleia2it was fun putting together the stuff for the xubuntu testing at the berkeley jam, but having it already put together for me would have been nice01:45
doctormoI saw a really good ted talk where the idea is to record videos of the lecture and have students watch them at home.01:45
doctormoThen in class is for the traditional home work.01:45
DarkwingDuckAlmost like a distance learning uni01:46
doctormoWe may not even need many people to record videos, but solid lesson plans for classroom activities would be important for that model.01:46
pleia2doctormo: yeah, I'm familiar with it, that website that has all those videos, something university01:47
doctormoKhan01:47
pleia2that's the one01:47
pleia2I always wished I could swim in coins like scrooge did in his vault01:48
doctormopleia2: They hurt to swim in, plus they're cold.01:48
pleia2yeah, not at all practical01:48
pleia2ok, here's my idea, whoever wants to puts together an example of what they want to see from this and we come back in 2 weeks or so and compare notes01:50
pleia2oh, 2 weeks is during UDS, I am a crazy person, 3 weeks :)01:51
jledbetterheh01:52
DarkwingDuckhehehe01:52
DarkwingDuckOkay, so, we want to collect ideas and toss together a couple lessions and bring them to the table next week?01:53
pleia2now you're a crazy person!01:53
pleia2actually I can probably be done in a week01:53
doctormoDarkwingDuck: Sure, what topic would you like to cover?01:53
pleia2I think I'll do Xubuntu LiveCD testing (I am cheating, I did this at the global jam so I already know exactly what I am going to write)01:54
DarkwingDuckI'm fluid with most anything within Kubuntu... But, I'm a doc guy so I'm game for anything.01:55
pleia2I kept thinking I'd do Desktop topics, but it turns out I'm really lousy at that, I'll probably pick up sysadmin topics later01:55
DarkwingDuck:D01:55
doctormoDarkwingDuck: I'm a grahpics guy, I even did the diagrams for the developer manual :-D01:56
pleia2it goes like this "I will write one about xchat" *ten minutes later* "I HATE GUIS SO MUCH"01:56
doctormopleia2: You know I'll be at LGM while you're at UDS?01:56
pleia2LGM?01:56
doctormoLibre Graphics Meeting in Montreal01:56
pleia2oh great01:56
doctormoI'll be there to meet a bunch of inkscape, gimp, scribus people.01:56
DarkwingDuckI'm learning graphics slowly01:56
pleia2nice01:57
DarkwingDuckI'm getting better and bette rwith inkscape01:57
DarkwingDuckI used photoshop back inthe day01:57
doctormoDarkwingDuck: http://doctormo.deviantart.com/01:57
pleia2you can see the disasters I come up with by looking at jono's latest blog post01:57
pleia2I really shouldn't be allowed near gimp or inkscape01:58
DarkwingDuckohhhhhh01:58
DarkwingDuckLOL01:58
pleia2right! DarkwingDuck, ok, one week from now we have some examples, Wednesday at 5:30 again?01:58
doctormopleia2: Did you draw the bear?01:58
pleia2doctormo: no, it's the logo from the brewpub01:59
pleia2I just stuck the two images together in gimp01:59
DarkwingDuckLet's do it.01:59
DarkwingDuckpleia2: sounds good to me.01:59
doctormoDarkwingDuck: Email me when you need diagrams or help composing the lesson plans.01:59
DarkwingDuckdoctormo: bingo. Your LP doctormo?02:00
pleia2oh bother, I was supposed to ask the hungarians about electric kettles02:00
pleia2doctormo: think you could send some tea, or tell me what to buy? (san francisco has lots of tea)02:01
pleia2I was on a plane recently and one of the stewardesses brought on some nice tea and she's all "I always bring it on san francisco flights *eyeroll*"02:02
pleia2I laughed :)02:02
pleia2apparently people like their tea here02:02
doctormopleia2: i know of two good tea shops in San-Fran, but this tea you need to get is British, so you'll have to make your way to the British or Irish store02:04
doctormoPG Tips and Yorkshire tea.02:04
doctormoDarkwingDuck: I am lp:~doctormo02:04
DarkwingDuckdoctormo: awesome02:05
pleia2ok, I shall go on a tea adventure saturday afternoon02:05
DarkwingDuckI'm LP:~david.wonderly02:05
doctormoDarkwingDuck: You reported the groundcontrol bug right?02:05
pleia2doctormo: http://www.poppyspantry.com/images/Yorkshire%20Tea.jpg ?02:08
pleia2and PG Tips Black Tea?02:08
DarkwingDuckWhat one?02:14
* DarkwingDuck reports too many02:14
doctormopleia2: Yes, black tea, caffinated.02:44
juzzy_hello! how might i update from 11.04 beta to 11.04 the official release?05:41
juzzy_IS it safe to uninstall FGLRX06:20
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