/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/28/#ubuntu-ops.txt

* rww ponders putting a wolfbot in -release-party01:48
rww(not very seriously)01:48
=== rww is now known as rww_
Coreyrww_: loller is a known irritant.03:39
rww_thanks03:39
Jordan_Urww_: The ban was for the nick.04:38
rww_Jordan_U: you probably want to look at -ot then04:40
rww_oh, you're not an op in there. nvm :<04:40
=== IdleOne is now known as Narwhal
soreauHey guys I was playing around in #ubuntu-release-party and I got banned but I kinda wanted to be there for the release. Apparently, I overstepped the rules of conduct mistakenly but I didn't realize that and now I was wondering if I can get unbanned from there05:17
Jordan_Urww_: Ping ^^05:25
rww_Jordan_U: I suspect soreau doesn't particularly want to talk to me.05:26
soreaurww_: Why do you think that?05:26
rww_heh05:27
rww_Okay, let's start with me then.05:27
rww_soreau: No, you can't get unbanned from #ubuntu-release-party.05:27
soreauWell I don't think it's fair what you banned me for since it was a rather dumb comment05:28
rww_You were removed from the channel yesterday for sexist comments, and thus well aware that they're against CoC. You did it again today. I thus banned you for a few hours. You followed this up with rambling in PM to at least one of our operators and abusing me in ##club-ubuntu rather than being reasonable about the situation, which has further decreased my confidence that you are able to behave acceptably.05:29
rww_Therefore, your "few hours" ban is now until #u-r-p closes and we wipe the banlist.05:30
soreauWell I think 'sexist' is a very strong word here..05:30
rww_I don't.05:30
Jordan_UI don't.05:30
soreauJordan_U: Did you review the context at all?05:31
Jordan_Usoreau: I saw the context from the ban tracker.05:32
rww_!away > nekohayo_away05:32
soreauJordan_U: Ok well I still think 'sexist' is not the right term. I was talking to a bot..05:33
Jordan_Usoreau: ubottu said "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" you responded with "ubottu: I should have known since you're a girl and all"05:34
macowhat05:34
Jordan_UYou may have been "talking to a bot" but you were implying that women are not intelligent.05:35
soreauJordan_U: Right, I had just found out that she was deemed a 'girl' and I made a snide comment05:35
soreauAnd also it's just a -party channel so I didn't mean anything by it..05:35
Jordan_Usoreau: It was offensive, and you have been warned in the past. Being a party channel does not excuse offensive comments.05:36
soreauJordan_U: I wasn't warned, I was kicked with a smile, for something that was assumed, so I did not think it was a problem05:37
rww_No, you weren't.05:37
soreauI mean it's not a big deal if you guys think it's that serious but I've already waited a few hours, which to me, means 305:38
soreauBut I was never warned previously05:39
rww_previously to what?05:39
soreauPreviously to your ban05:39
rww_I made it abundantly clear yesterday that sexism is not acceptable in that channel. You knew that it wasn't to the point that you refused to admit what you were coyly talking about.05:40
soreauIf someone would have warned me, then I would not have done it05:40
Jordan_U2011-04-27T02:54:08 *** soreau (soreau!~soreau@unaffiliated/soreau) has left #ubuntu-release-party (requested by rww (Sexism is a violation of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and is not acceptable in #ubuntu*))05:40
rww_Your ban will not be removed at this time. If you for some reason feel the need to appeal a ban in a party channel that's only open for a week or two per cycle, please contact the IRCC. Have a nice day.05:40
rww_!appeals05:40
ubottuIf you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.05:40
soreaurww_: Yes I was joking around in a party channel. I didn't know you guys would be this strict05:40
rww_soreau: Goodnight.05:41
soreauAlso appeals is not valid here due to the time constraints05:41
soreaurww_: night05:41
soreauSo can someone please unban me from #ubuntu-release-party?05:41
rww_soreau: Okay. Feel free to not, then. Either way, you're done here.05:41
soreaurww_: I thought you were going to bed..05:42
macosoreau: read his "good night" like a brit saying "Good DAY, SIR!"05:42
soreaumaco: Well the reason I'm here is because I don't agree with his decision05:42
soreauand I've waited a few hours already05:42
rww_Let's go through the nifty webpage ubottu linked you to.05:43
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from cordoval_)05:43
rww_Step 1) lolno, that didn't work. Step 2) nope. Step 3) nope. Step 4) You are here!05:43
=== rww_ is now known as rww
ubottuIn #ubuntu-release-party, buhman said: !when is 11.04 going to be released?05:45
rww!notreally-#ubuntu-offtopic > buhman05:45
cdbsrww: Okay, now I know why the bot acts so humane, you control it from -ops-monitor :)05:45
rwwcdbs: ;)05:46
macoso's ya know, if you're hoping for a third op to come forward for step 3... i'm going to agree with rww & Jordan_U on this one05:46
ubottuIn #ubuntu-release-party, ashmew2 said: !when is 11.04 going to be released?05:46
soreauJordan_U: Oh yes you're right, did not see that message..05:47
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user buhman - please have a look)05:48
* rww thwaps PartyBot105:50
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user buhman1 - please have a look)05:56
bazhang<ashmew2> come suc* my ball* ?06:03
Tm_Tsoreau: here's fourth op agreeing the decision, something else we can help you with?06:03
ashmew2request unban from ubuntu-release-party , used a phrase which was unacceptable , please unban ?06:03
bazhangashmew2, before that your were spamming the bot as well06:04
ashmew2bazhang: ... wont happen again06:04
bazhangashmew2, you're right06:04
ashmew2bazhang: it was showing different dates06:04
soreauTm_T: I'm in the process of 4) for appeals06:04
ashmew2bazhang: no i dont like being right...unban me , ill abide by the rules06:04
bazhangashmew2, not now06:05
ashmew2bazhang: when ?06:05
bazhangashmew2, come back in 24 hrs06:05
ashmew2bazhang: but the party will be started in that time06:05
ashmew2..06:05
bazhangashmew2, bad luck for you then06:05
Tm_Tsoreau: ok, this channel won't be dealing this matter further, if you like to proceed, send an email to the irc council06:05
ashmew2bazhang: another chance wont hurt06:05
ashmew2bazhang: ill abide , or u can permanently ban me06:06
soreauTm_T: Ok06:06
bazhangashmew2, sorry, you wont be unbanned.06:06
ashmew2bazhang: You could cut the time down a little.06:06
ashmew2bazhang: never mind , guess i earned it, thanks and sorry.06:07
rwwso can we make a countdown clock for 20 hours or so from now and then just pretend it got released early ;)?06:11
macofor the last timezone on the planet?06:14
rwwthat works better, I just couldn't be bothered doing the math06:14
macotheres a -12UTC06:16
rww@now Samoa06:16
tsimpsonthe @now command is disabled06:16
macoso say 2300 in -12 is.... 1100 UTC on friday06:17
tsimpsonat least until fri or sat06:17
rwwtsimpson: ah, good :)06:17
cdbsWait a sec, when will -release-announce open?06:17
tonyyarussocdbs: It's -release-party06:20
tonyyarussoand it already is06:20
cdbstonyyarusso: Another channel usually comes up, -release-announce06:21
tsimpsonthere is a -release-announce too, that's +m06:21
cdbstonyyarusso: I know about -release-party06:21
tsimpsonit's currently +i too though06:21
cdbsah, explains why I can't join it06:21
tonyyarussooh, we did do that last time06:21
tonyyarussoI guess we'll see if it seems appropriate.06:21
tonyyarussoA hilight on the release manager seems easier.06:22
rwwI don't think we need it this release. It doesn't feel busy enough.06:22
Narwhalbazhang: is it really worth to continue banning ashmew? what I mean is how bad was the offence?06:22
bazhangNarwhal, your call. I'm off to work. unabated spamming and sexual language06:23
cdbsMy contract of working on Unity ends today, I'll be more into Irc work from now onwards06:23
tonyyarussorww: That was my leaning06:23
Narwhalbazhang: I trust your judgement06:24
HereForBuntuReleis hoober black-listed from downloading 11.04?06:35
Corey...06:36
CoreyHereForBuntuRele: No.06:36
HereForBuntuRelerestricted from the party? but am i blacklisted from that06:36
CoreyGo play.06:36
HereForBuntuReleok06:36
CoreySorry if I overstepped there. :-)06:36
tsimpsonnope, that's fine :)06:37
Narwhalnope06:37
rwwFor what it's worth, my current policy on Bryan Roo involves banning him on sight from any channel I have ops in. Apologies if that steps on anyone's toes.06:37
CoreyI was wondering when something like that'd happen.  There's a certain subset of our users that are... yeah.06:37
Narwhalrww: nope06:37
tsimpsonanyone have any thoughts on disabling Bantracker in -r-p?06:45
tsimpsonI don't think it's really useful in that channel personally06:45
rwwplease do06:46
rwwall the kicks are a waste of space :)06:46
Narwhaldisable it06:46
Narwhalall the bans get cleared anyway06:46
tsimpsonit's (hopefully) disabled there now06:47
rwwlooks like it06:47
tonyyarussoagreed06:48
tsimpsongood, that should save me ~50 MB on the bantracker database :)06:48
tonyyarussoThe banlist will probably fill up and have to be cleared in a few hours anyway.06:48
Narwhaloh I was guinea pig06:48
Narwhalhappy to be of service06:48
tonyyarussoI think my favorite -r-p comment so far was along the lines of "Yes, 10.10 is out!"06:50
Narwhalheh06:51
tonyyarussoThere's a chance skaet might stop by for a briefing about IRC workings to prepare for being in -r-p for announcement time, so if I'm not around to do that someone explain the "Mess with people for a few hours, go away to finish work, +m channel, announce, -m, partay" process.06:59
rwwnod07:00
elkyeh? i missed it?07:29
rwwmissed what07:29
elkyrelease?07:29
rwwno07:29
elkyok good07:29
* rww tosses elky a rifle and sends her out into the field07:29
rwwgood luck, soldier!07:29
* elky is on work premises.07:29
elkythat place is so not worksafe.07:30
elkyor 3g safe unfortunately. I couldn't even maintain a connection for more than 5 seconds last night.07:30
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from spaz_dynamic)07:31
rwwrepeated offtopic ^07:32
rwwelky: oh well. We only got two ban complaints thusfar anyway. quiet release thusfar07:32
Narwhalproblem solved07:33
rwwhttp://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccountall/_ubuntu_release_party-week.png :D07:38
macoubottu: !arb is <reply> The Application Review Board is responsible for vetting applications to be added to stable releases through the Post-Release Apps Process -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process07:57
ubottuI'll remember that, maco07:57
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user barbarabush - please have a look)08:57
* Jordan_U goes to sleep, hopefully missing most of the chaos.09:20
=== gary is now known as Gary
BarbaraNotBushgot asked to go here?10:24
jussiBarbaraNotBush: dont stress10:24
BarbaraNotBush?10:24
jussiBarbaraNotBush: We are watching - they sent you here because you wanted someone removed10:24
BarbaraNotBushit was a "scare" hehe10:24
jussiBarbaraNotBush: no probs. have fun at the party :)10:25
BarbaraNotBushty :)10:25
jussiBarbaraNotBush: please dont idle here :)10:25
BarbaraNotBushcan you kick me please? nothing happends when i click the x on this webirc10:27
BarbaraNotBushnvm i should reload it10:27
knome:)10:27
tsimpsonI'm pretty sure I banned that person a while ago10:31
tsimpsonBarbarabush10:31
knomelol10:32
knomeshe was not bush10:32
knome:P10:32
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user paaaa - please have a look)10:47
tsimpsonanyone want to op-up in -r-p and stop me from going completely insane?10:59
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user xgaug - please have a look)11:00
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user dasdsdasads - please have a look)11:01
mrmisttsimpson: I can help out if there's no other real ops around. What's your criteria?11:07
Incarus6tsimpson, what happened?11:07
jussimrmist: I think we are ok atm, but if noone is around, see topic :)11:07
mrmistcool11:07
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user fdsdfsfdsd - please have a look)11:08
tsimpsonmrmist: links to anything that looks like a natty release gets a ban basically11:08
Incarus6tsimpson, the page changed, its not beta2 anymore.. btw I was helping ppl with issues and not talking about natty11:09
mrmistit's interestingly busy in there.11:09
jussimrmist: normal, sadly :P11:10
mrmistheh11:10
tsimpsonIncarus6: is it difficult to understand that when we say "don't post links", you should not post links...11:10
Incarus6tsimpson, no one said that. But thanks for banning, I was talking about chromium and sait Natty isn't released yet all the time11:11
tsimpson<Incarus6> linxfreaker, its released, but not in the repo yet11:11
tsimpsonIncarus6: was that about chrome?11:12
Incarus6Im not here to discuss about that. I just wanted to ask you if you could revert the ban that I can help the irc users to fix their ubuntu (10.10) related issues. im not in #ubuntu to talk about natty (latest release is still 10.10), I was just pointing you to the fact, that this link changed11:14
Incarus6IS that ban for just one day?11:21
tsimpsonin this instance, yes11:21
Incarus6Seems to be an overreaction to me - I know, it's allways stress when a knew release is coming out - btu check the log, I never said Natty is released. (e.g.: [11:43:52] <Incarus6> cleared cache, can't confirm that. Its Beta2), but Im not here to discuss about that now. good day11:26
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user mahipal - please have a look)11:41
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (I've banned the gateway user babarabush - please have a look)11:54
babarabushhey i just got banned for being right12:01
babarabusheat that tsimpson12:01
babarabushofficial by ubuntu.com12:01
tsimpsonyeah, that'll work12:01
jrib11.04 is out at ubuntu.com now but I don't see an announcement12:02
FlannelSomeone made a mistake, one way or the other :)12:09
Flanneland also, this is a really early release time12:09
jribyep12:09
wgrantNot really a mistake.12:09
wgrantThe website is always pushed early.12:10
Flannelwgrant: but not the actual 11.04 downloads12:10
jrib"The requested URL /releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server."12:10
wgrantOn the website? Yes.12:10
FlannelOh interesting.12:11
FlannelI just had it ask me if I wanted to save it, but now I try again, and get a 40412:11
wgrantIt's not on every mirror yet.12:11
jribyeah, it probably chooses mirrors at random and the mirrors aren't up to date12:11
FlannelOh, different mirrors, right.12:11
elkyYou mean there's no magic button that updates a hundred places? There goes that dream.12:13
wgrantThey're slowly syncing.12:13
elkytsimpson, ...12:21
tsimpsonyes?12:22
jrib#ubuntu+1 is +i?12:25
tsimpsonyes12:25
jribwhy?12:25
tsimpsonbecause all the discussion in there was about links to ISOs etc12:26
jribbut where are people seeking support with 11.04 supposed to go?12:26
tsimpsontbh, I was planning on only making it +i for a few mins, I must have just forgotten12:26
vibhavwhy was i banned from #ubuntu-release-party!!12:28
paranoxvibhav: you are annoying12:30
vibhavWhat did i do paranox?12:30
paranoxvibhav: are you the release manager12:30
paranoxi wanna bash the release manager12:30
vibhavNo12:30
vibhavThe Ubuntu Webiste says Its released12:31
paranoxapparently he is holding off on releasing 11.04 until next week12:31
paranoxthe ubuntu website is an idiot12:31
vibhavthen please unbann me12:31
paranox`unban vibhav12:32
paranoxthere you go12:32
ikoniaenough12:32
vibhavI am banned still12:33
vibhavparanox I am banned still12:33
paranoxvibhav: are you sure?12:33
ikoniaparanox: is not an op here12:33
paranoxtry again12:33
ikoniaparanox: please stop12:33
paranoxikonia: is not an op here12:33
vibhavwhat to do?12:33
bazhangparanox, thats enough12:33
ikoniaparanox: do you need anything from this channel ?12:33
ikoniaparanox: I am voiced to show I am - you are not12:33
ikoniavibhav: hang on a minute12:33
paranoxikonia: voice me12:33
vibhavI am banned still now...12:34
ikoniaparanox: no - do you need anything from this channel12:34
paranoxikonia: how does being voiced show you are an op?12:34
ikoniavibhav: please hang on a minute12:34
paranoxwouldn't being an op show you are an op?12:34
vibhavikonia : ok12:34
ikoniaparanox: that is how this channel is setup - that's not for debate12:34
ikoniaparanox: do you need anything from this channel, yes/no ?12:34
vibhavparanox why are you arguining12:34
ikoniavibhav: please - wait a minute12:34
paranoxikonia: does that mean there are 57 ops in here?12:34
paranoxikonia: yes12:34
vibhavikonia : i am waiting12:34
ikoniaparanox: what do you need ?12:34
ikoniavibhav: thanks, please wait quietly - we'll get to you asap12:34
paranoxikonia: i need to know why there are 57 ops in this channel12:34
ikoniaparanox: there are as many as voiced12:35
ikoniaparanox: anything else ?12:35
paranoxikonia: can you voice me?12:36
paranoxplease?12:36
ikoniaparanox: no - you're not an op12:36
ubottuPartyBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16))12:36
paranoxikonia: are you an op?12:36
ikoniavibhav: you're unbanned from #ubuntu-release-party12:36
ikoniaparanox: yes,12:36
paranoxikonia: so can you make me an op too?12:36
vibhavikonia : thanks!12:36
vibhavCan i also be an OP12:36
ikoniaparanox: no12:36
ikoniano12:36
vibhavCannot join #ubuntu-release-party (You are banned).12:37
vibhavstill banned12:37
ikoniavibhav: I'll check again12:37
paranoxikonia: is #ubuntu-ops-monitor the channel that monitors the ops in #ubuntu-ops that monitors the ops in #ubuntu?12:37
ikoniavibhav: try now12:37
paranoxsorry my connection dropped out12:37
vibhavDONE!12:37
paranoxikonia: is #ubuntu-ops-monitor the channel that monitors the ops in #ubuntu-ops that monitors the ops in #ubuntu?12:37
vibhavthanks!12:37
tsimpsonparanox: no, you were removed12:37
paranoxwhat do you mean removed?12:38
paranoxyou can't control my computer?12:38
paranoxare yo12:38
paranoxdo you control my computer?12:38
ikoniaparanox: I think we are done here12:38
ikoniaparanox: please leave this channel12:38
paranoxtsimpson:12:38
tsimpsonno, it makes you part a channel12:38
tsimpsonlike a kick12:38
paranoxhow can something make me aprt a channel?12:38
ikoniaparanox: it's irc, read irc.freenode.net12:38
paranoxi thought only ops could kick me12:38
ikoniaparanox: tsimpson IS an op12:38
paranoxwhat is irc?12:39
paranoxwhere am i?12:39
paranoxikonia: i thought you were the op12:39
ikoniacan we stop this messing around please, leave the channel12:39
tsimpsonif there's nothing specific you want to discuss, you should leave paranox12:39
paranoxikonia: i don't know how12:39
ikoniathanks12:39
knome!isitout12:44
ubottuNot yet! But you can join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D12:44
tsimpson!no isitout is <reply> Yes, join #ubuntu-release-party to celebrate!12:44
ubottuI'll remember that tsimpson12:44
knome:)12:44
elkyok that's pretty messed up. soreau seems to have scripted himself up12:44
ikonia?12:44
bazhangop?12:44
LjLscripted himself up?12:45
elkyhe joined within seconds, and every 10 seconds was doing a factoid call to either downloads or torrents12:45
jussiahh dammit12:45
jussiI missed the release12:45
Flanneljussi: by seconds!12:45
LjLme too12:46
elkyby *minutes*12:46
LjLwell actually i didn't12:46
bazhangmicroseconds!12:46
Flannelmany many nanoseconds!12:46
bazhanghehe12:46
knomejussi, now you'll have to wait for oneiric!12:46
jussilol12:46
FlannelAlright, once again, the website gives no ability to download torrents or alt CD.  This is stupid.   Why does the website slide backwards with every release.12:47
elkyonly 6 months12:47
ikoniasoreau's stopped12:48
ikoniajust removed the q for a test12:48
LjLby the way, i know it's not usually how it works, but if you want to give me temporary access in #ubuntu to help dealing with the increased load, i'm in (though i can really only do policing, it's been too many releases since what i'm running for me to be able to help in any meaningful way)12:48
wgrantFlannel: You mean the "alternative downloads" link?12:49
tsimpsonLjL: btw, did you notice FloodBot1 kicked FloodBot2 from #ubuntu-unregged earlier?12:50
LjLtsimpson: O.o12:52
tsimpsonLjL: actually PartyBot1 did the kicking12:52
LjLtsimpson: during a +i masskick?12:52
LjLoh12:52
tsimpsonmy eyes need washing12:52
LjLwell partybot is silly, shouldn't even really stay opped12:52
jussiLjL: until monday. be good: [28-Apr-11 14:56:01] [ChanServ] Flags +votiA were set on LjL in #ubuntu.12:56
LjLjussi: have i ever been anything but an angel :312:59
jussihehe12:59
knomeaccording to the smiley, a walrus12:59
LjLi am the eggman they are the eggmen i am the walrus!13:00
bazhangrgr is getting annoying13:00
ikoniaagreed13:02
PiciI forwarded #ubuntu+1 to #ubuntu13:23
topyliobvously it's out, my desktop just stopped working13:25
knomehaha13:26
jussiheh13:26
LjLbotmasters, might want to change !info to point to natty13:28
PiciI just upadated !natty and !maverick13:29
LjLpici is stuck in a factory factory!13:30
LjLfactoid, even13:30
jussi!info bash13:32
ubottubash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 4.2-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 531 kB, installed size 1240 kB13:32
jussi:)13:32
* LjL should update !offline13:32
Pici@config channel #ubuntu plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease13:32
ubottumaverick13:32
Picijussi: ^13:32
Incarus6pls ban "[14:32:29] <zfk> I SAID SAUSAGE MCMUFFIN YOU FAGGOTS NOT SAUSAGE MCGRIDDLE" in #ubuntu13:33
PiciIncarus6: Hes been muted already.13:33
jussi@config channel #ubuntu plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease natty13:33
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:33
Incarus6thx, good day13:34
jussistupid channel specific ones :P13:34
Picijussi: -offtopic still seems to be using maverick.  Odd.13:34
jussihrm, I wonder how w3e drop the channel specific stuff..13:34
jussimust find out13:34
jussi@config channel #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease13:36
ubottumaverick13:36
jussi@config channel #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease natty13:36
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:36
jussisigh13:36
jussiif anyone notices others...13:36
LjLare we pushing the use of metalinks in any way?13:38
LjLthey're cool13:38
jussimetalinks?13:39
LjLjussi: they're files that contain several links of various types (HTTP, torrent...) to the same file. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ has them. they can be opened using aria2c13:39
LjL!info aria213:39
ubottuaria2 (source: aria2): High speed download utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.9-1 (natty), package size 1521 kB, installed size 4380 kB13:39
LjLjussi: it downloads from several sources at a time, helps to load balance and uses bittorrent transparently13:40
LjLhttp://www.metalinker.org/13:40
jussiahh, interesting13:41
LjLand i can testify that aria2c works very well, never got a corrupted download from it myself13:42
* jussi corrupts LjL's downloads :P13:42
PiciRemember that 9.10's EOL is tomorrow.13:44
maco!natty13:51
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/110413:51
macowoah confusing13:51
macoits updated here but not in #ubuntu?13:51
Picimaco: They called !ubuntu+113:52
macoooo13:52
maco!ubuntu+113:52
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty has been released! - Support in #ubuntu13:52
Pici(I just fixed it)13:52
macooh13:52
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PiciHow do people feel about the !gnome3-#ubuntu+1 factioid migrating to #ubuntu?14:01
LjLPici: i'd keep it, people are going to ask and demand an answer anyway... as long as it clearly says it's dangerous and unsupported, meh, caveat emptor14:04
LjLmaybe make it DANGEROUS instead of _dangerous_, mostly because i hate underscores :P14:05
knomehah14:05
knomemake it dangerous :P14:05
LjLactually back then i had made a metalink factoid, it seems14:12
LjL!metalink14:12
ubottuA Metalink is a file which lists places (web mirrors, torrents) where a given file can be obtained, making downloads faster and more reliable. Metalink software and Ubuntu releases as metalinks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metalink14:12
LjLwell, factoid and wikipage14:12
LjLcan i add the wiki page to the party topic?14:13
PiciI don't see why not14:13
jussigo for it14:14
LjLNatty added to wiki, topic changed14:17
jussiugh... who added the mock the voiced part?14:19
LjLjussi: why don't you guess14:21
jussiLjL: Its not funny, please dont put it on.14:21
LjLu ppl have no sense of fun :(14:21
LjLwhy two bots in party?14:23
PiciI was just going to ask that14:24
jussicurious14:25
PiciI told ubottu to leave.14:25
bazhangrgr seems to still be spreading misinfo14:31
* Pici gets back to work14:32
bazhanghe's had half a dozen warnings now14:40
vibhavCannot join #ubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only).14:48
bazhangvibhav, why would you need to14:49
vibhavbazhang idk :P14:50
bazhangvibhav, oneiric wont have any packages for a while yet14:50
vibhavOK14:51
PiciIts forwarding to #ubuntu14:51
mneptokTHE CHANNEL FROM THE FUUUUUUUUTUUUUUUUUUUUURE!14:51
* mneptok plays his theremin14:51
vibhavok!14:52
Picivibhav: Can we help you with anything else?14:53
popeybazhang: define "a while". This afternoon :)14:54
bazhang:)14:54
highvoltagemneptok: yeah but can you do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPvTTc7jAVQ14:55
mneptokhighvoltage: i only own power saws. they go through bone better.14:57
vibhav<Pici> No im fine14:57
bazhanghi14:57
vibhavhi14:57
Picivibhav: Please take note of the channel topic then, particlarly the part about idling.14:57
Steristplease forgive me for asking here but does anyone still have contact with the PSubuntu.com moderators? (ps3 ubuntu forums)14:58
highvoltagemneptok: nice14:58
vibhav<Pici> Ok dude14:59
vibhav<Pici> I want to ask one thing14:59
Steristthey've really been MIA and prove hard to reach... need to dig deep (-_-)14:59
vibhav<Pici> How do I become OP?14:59
Pici!canibeanop | vibhav15:00
ubottuvibhav: If you are interested in joining the Ops team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements.  You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.15:00
maco(does anyone else consistently read that as "can i bean op"?)15:00
mneptokmaco: i read it as "canib eanop" which is Micronesian for "tuna-filled waffles"15:02
bazhangp57976AE0.dip.t-dialin.net wonder if LALALLAA is larstorben15:05
PiciI'm pretty sure it is.15:05
bazhangoh yeah it is15:05
ubottuIn ubottu, Squall5668 said: !Squall is Squall15:23
highvoltage'/win 1515:25
ikoniawhat a great factoid suggestion15:27
knomefantastic15:29
LjL:(15:33
Logan_LjL: you know what's necessary now, right?15:36
LjLglobal +m?15:37
Logan_updating all of the factoids for natty :P15:37
LjLpici has been doing a bit of that ;)15:37
LjLalso, i think some factoids use a $variable for that now15:37
jussiI think we are mostly up to date- if youve got ones that arent, let us know :)15:37
Logan_believe me, I'll find some :P15:38
Logan_plus, I have to check that all of the factoids listing recommended packages still exist in Natty15:38
jussiLogan_: good luck :)15:38
Logan_heh15:38
Logan_I'll just use !info with ubottu15:38
jussiIm more than happy to update them if you find them15:38
jussi:)15:39
Logan_some -#ubuntu-1s should strip that15:41
Logan_as Natty is now supported in #ubuntu15:41
jussiLogan_: suggestions and specific factoids :)15:41
Logan_easy way to fix that?  or do you have to make a new one without that ending and then alias the ones thatends with -#ubuntu-1?15:41
Logan_*that end15:41
jussiLogan_: just out of curiousity, do you use PM to look through factoids or the web interface?15:42
Logan_web interface, mostly15:42
jussi:)15:42
LjLLogan_: remember #ubuntu+1 will come back shortly enough for Oneiric, though15:43
Logan_how soon?15:44
LjLLogan_: depends when the toolchain is ready, i guess between two weeks and a month maybe15:44
LjLpossibly sooner15:44
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !forget gnome3-#ubuntu+115:45
Logan_LjL cut and pasted it to !gnome3, so that one is no longer necessary15:46
LjLLogan_ remember i still don't have editing privileges on the bot :P15:48
Logan_oops, that was Pici15:48
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player, Listen, /, /15:51
Logan_whoops, don't do that one15:52
PiciI already updated !gnome315:52
Logan_should be: !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player,  /, /15:52
Logan_since Beep Media Player doesn't even exist in the repo15:52
Logan_Pici: yes, but !gnome3-#ubuntu+1 wasn't forgotten15:52
Logan_that players one actually should be: !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player, /, /15:53
Pici!forget gnome3-#ubuntu+115:53
ubottuI'll forget that, Pici15:53
Logan_that's my final answer :P15:53
Logan_Pici: can you fix that one?15:53
Pici!players15:54
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs15:54
Pici!-players15:54
ubottuplayers aliases: media players, video players, audio players, totem, totem-xine, vlc, banshee, rhythmbox, amarok, media, music players, player, exaile, listen - added by LjL on 2006-07-09 02:49:51 - last edited by Flannel on 2008-11-30 23:50:2915:54
Pici!players =~ s/, Beep Media Player, /, /15:54
ubottuI'll remember that Pici15:54
Logan_Pici: thanks :)15:54
PiciLogan_: np15:54
* Logan_ finds some more factoids to mess with :P15:55
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !ocr =~ s/GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr.//16:03
Logan_neither of those packages exists in the repo16:03
LjL:(16:03
Logan_haha, that's an LjL factoid16:03
LjLwhy do important packages keep getting pulled16:03
* Logan_ pokes Pici or jussi 16:04
jussi!ocr16:04
ubottuOCR software for Ubuntu includes Tesseract, Ocrad and GOcr. GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr.16:04
jussiLogan_: thats still borked16:05
jussi!info kooka16:05
ubottuPackage kooka does not exist in natty16:05
jussi;)16:05
Logan_?16:05
LjLhold on a minute, looking for packages16:05
jussi!info skanlite16:05
ubottuskanlite (source: skanlite): image scanner for KDE 4 based on the KSane backend. In component main, is extra. Version 0.7-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1077 kB, installed size 1496 kB16:05
Logan_jussi: that's my point :P16:05
Logan_that command removes that sentence at the end16:05
Logan_since neither of those packages exist in the repo16:05
jussioh, bad comprehension day :D16:06
Logan_heh16:06
jussiseems kinda pointless being that short - is here a wiki page or something we can put in?16:06
LjLjussi: doesn't do OCR :(16:07
LjLi checked16:07
jussiok16:07
LjLthat's why i hate KDE4 with a *passion*16:07
jussi?16:07
LjLit took away lots of useful programs16:07
Logan_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR maybe16:08
Logan_jussi: ^16:08
Logan_Instead of listing the packages, just link to that page, which lists some itself.16:08
jussiLogan_: sounds good. proposal?16:09
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !no ocr is <reply> For OCR (optical character recognition) software in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR for packages.16:09
LjLso apparently there's not a single OCR frontend in the repos anymore aside from some TK based one. how depressing.16:10
LjLone step forward, two steps back.16:10
jussi!no ocr is <reply> For OCR (optical character recognition) software in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR for packages and instructions.16:10
ubottuI'll remember that jussi16:10
jussiLjL: kooka hasnt been maintained since at least mid 200716:10
Logan_thanks jussi16:11
* Logan_ goes to find some more factoids :)16:11
LjLjussi: neither has my KDE 3.5, but it hasn't stopped working16:11
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !forget plg16:12
jussi!plg16:12
ubottuProject Looking Glass is an environment with 3D windowing and visualization capabilities. Web site: https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/ - Demo: http://wwws.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.html - Live CD: https://lg3d-livecd.dev.java.net/ - Binary Builds: https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/binary-builds.html16:12
jussiLogan_: why?16:12
Logan_LjL added it back in 2007, and none of the links work16:12
Logan_well, the first one redirects to a page on java.net, but the downloads link doesn't show any files16:13
Logan_inactive project, most likely16:13
Logan_jussi: ^16:14
LjLguess Oracle destroyed that stuff16:14
ikoniaOracle is Gozers twin16:16
Logan_also, when you get to it: !pdf =~ s/kdpf#///16:16
LjLi didn't make that one!16:17
LjLand it shows, it's terrible. / to separate package names? ;(16:17
jussi!forget plg16:18
ubottuI'll forget that, jussi16:18
jussi!pdf16:18
ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/okular/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)16:18
macokpdf was kde3-only, wasnt it?16:19
Logan_LjL: yeah, it's a pain16:19
LjLs:GNU/Linux:Ubuntu: also16:19
jussi!no, pdf is <reply>The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)16:21
ubottuI'll remember that jussi16:21
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !forget get_iplayer16:21
jussi!get_iplayer16:21
ubottuget_iplayer is http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer/ a small perl script which can download content from BBC iPlayer and ITV catch up services.16:21
macoget_iplayer is handy16:22
macowhy forget it?16:22
Logan_doesn't exist in the natty repo16:22
macoget-iplayer |     2.79-1 | natty/universe | source, all16:22
Logan_oh, it's a dash16:22
Logan_nvm, then16:22
jussiI think it needs re-wording though16:22
jussiits hardly a stardard factoid...16:23
macoyeah, package names use - for word-breaks. _ is just for separating off the version16:23
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_ said: !no alternate is <reply> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal16:32
Logan_(new link)16:32
Logan_jussi: ^16:34
jussi!alternate16:34
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal16:34
jussi!no alternate is <reply> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal16:34
ubottuI'll remember that jussi16:34
jussi!alternate16:35
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal16:35
jussiLogan_: shall we do this in #ubuntu-irc ? most of the ops are there also, and it doesnt take up this channel, if comes a time its needed16:35
Logan_alright16:36
jussiLogan_: remember to part here :)16:36
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mah454 appears to be abusive - 4.5)17:45
ikoniahey it's Pricey18:35
ikoniacdbs: you work for canonical ?18:39
cdbsikonia: yep, until today18:39
cdbsikonia: I was under a 1-month contract for Unity, which ended today18:40
ikoniahow interesting18:40
IdleOneif sebsebseb is going to give his opinion every time someone asks about Unity I am going to ban him. He knows very well about the offtopic rule.18:41
ikoniaI would support that18:41
IdleOneI am not trying to deny him his opinion but we don't need to see it in the support channel.18:42
ikoniaI would support that18:42
ikoniaI don't like it - but you have a choice, use the distro, change the desktop, don't use the distro, pick one18:42
IdleOneRight. my feeling is you don't have to like it but #ubuntu is for support and not 45 minute discussions about how much you think it sucks.18:43
IdleOnecdbs is a rock star today, everybody wants yoor help hehe18:48
IdleOneyour*18:48
IdleOne-!hashes does not have the 11.04 hash. http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Ubuntu/11.04/MD5SUMS does19:55
* Pici finds someone to poke19:56
IdleOnethank you Pici19:58
IdleOneadded a goo.gl to the 11.04 md5sums to !hashes20:08
IdleOne!hashes20:08
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. Natty Narwhal 11.04 md5sums can be found at http://goo.gl/UgkqJ20:08
IdleOnewe can update when/if they fix the help.ubuntu. page20:08
IdleOnealso added one for the keyboard shortcuts in Unity to !shortcuts20:12
PiciI feel like adding "Complaing about unity will not be tolerated here" to the topic.20:42
macoPici: "complaining about unity will not make it go away" would be funnier20:42
LjLi feel like complaining about unity20:44
PiciI feel like complaing about people complaing20:44
LjLi feel like complaining about people complaining about people complaining20:45
Pici!hashes =~ /Natty.*//21:02
ubottuI'll remember that Pici21:02
Pici!hashes21:02
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.21:02
PiciIdleOne: I just got word that the hashes pages was updated, I fixed the factoid.21:02
charlie-tcaJust send them to #xubuntu; we can fix the problem with unity :-)21:03
highvoltagecharlie-tca: can you use compiz with xfce?21:04
charlie-tcayes21:05
IdleOnePici: perfect, thanks for handling that :)21:05
charlie-tcahighvoltage: we give a choice, xfwm4 compositor or compiz21:06
Pici!no nbr is <reply> Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.21:07
ubottuI'll remember that Pici21:07
IdleOne!une21:07
ubottuStarting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.21:07
PiciFeel free to play with the wording21:08
IdleOnelooks fine to me21:09
LjL!nbr is <reply> Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is gaining ground like the black plague.21:10
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, LjL said: !nbr is <reply> Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is gaining ground like the black plague.21:10
* LjL plays with the wording21:10
ubottuohsix called the ops in #ubuntu ()21:10
IdleOnehehe21:10
IdleOneLjL: you got +o in #u21:11
IdleOnewhen did that happen?21:11
PiciWhen he hacked the gibson21:11
Picior something.21:12
IdleOnegood for him21:12
Picimacrossm might need some help remembering what #ubuntu is for21:13
PiciI am out for a bit.21:13
LjLIdleOne: i've got ops until monday to help deal with the release21:13
IdleOneI don't see why you have a limited time only21:13
IdleOnebut I suppose you agreed to that21:13
LjLprocesses!21:13
IdleOneprocesses, so former IRCC member, Ubuntu member, Floodbot owner...yup you should have to apply and better make that wiki page and get some +1's21:14
* LjL shrugs21:15
IdleOneanyway, happy you are here backing us up :)21:16
darkzHey everyone... i installed 11.04 and now i can no longer connect to my wifi.. doesnt even show up, other AP's show up.. tested it from my 10.10 box, works fine... any ideas?21:25
topylidarkz: this channel is for irc problems. please join #ubuntu for help21:27
darkzthis is the only ubuntu channel i can ask in21:27
topylihow so?21:27
darkzmuted in #ubuntu and the party channel21:27
topyliwe can't help with your wifi, but we might be able to help with your problems with #ubuntu. why are you muted?21:28
darkzdont even remember21:28
darkzmaybe its not even me that got banned im there hehe21:29
darkzin*21:29
LjLdarkz: you randomly pasted a message from ubottu that told you ubottu didn't know about something not very appropriate for the channel21:30
darkzi did?21:30
darkzyou sure its me?21:30
darkzim connected to a fonera21:31
LjLdarkz: are you familiar with our guidelines?21:32
darkzi guess21:32
LjLdarkz: i will remove that ban, but please make sure you know the contents of !etiquette and !guidelines so nobody has to add it back, whether or not it was you the first time21:32
darkzok ty :)21:33
LjLdarkz: you should be able to speak now21:34
darkzthanks :)21:34
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (adwonw appears to be abusive - 4)21:53
ubottuIn ubottu, guntbert said: !torrents =~ s -i  /Maverick/Natty/22:02
elkyok, at work, closed -party23:20

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