[01:48]  * rww ponders putting a wolfbot in -release-party
[01:48] <rww> (not very seriously)
[03:39] <Corey> rww_: loller is a known irritant.
[03:39] <rww_> thanks
[04:38] <Jordan_U> rww_: The ban was for the nick.
[04:40] <rww_> Jordan_U: you probably want to look at -ot then
[04:40] <rww_> oh, you're not an op in there. nvm :<
[05:17] <soreau> Hey guys I was playing around in #ubuntu-release-party and I got banned but I kinda wanted to be there for the release. Apparently, I overstepped the rules of conduct mistakenly but I didn't realize that and now I was wondering if I can get unbanned from there
[05:25] <Jordan_U> rww_: Ping ^^
[05:26] <rww_> Jordan_U: I suspect soreau doesn't particularly want to talk to me.
[05:26] <soreau> rww_: Why do you think that?
[05:27] <rww_> heh
[05:27] <rww_> Okay, let's start with me then.
[05:27] <rww_> soreau: No, you can't get unbanned from #ubuntu-release-party.
[05:28] <soreau> Well I don't think it's fair what you banned me for since it was a rather dumb comment
[05:29] <rww_> You were removed from the channel yesterday for sexist comments, and thus well aware that they're against CoC. You did it again today. I thus banned you for a few hours. You followed this up with rambling in PM to at least one of our operators and abusing me in ##club-ubuntu rather than being reasonable about the situation, which has further decreased my confidence that you are able to behave acceptably.
[05:30] <rww_> Therefore, your "few hours" ban is now until #u-r-p closes and we wipe the banlist.
[05:30] <soreau> Well I think 'sexist' is a very strong word here..
[05:30] <rww_> I don't.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> I don't.
[05:31] <soreau> Jordan_U: Did you review the context at all?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> soreau: I saw the context from the ban tracker.
[05:32] <rww_> !away > nekohayo_away
[05:33] <soreau> Jordan_U: Ok well I still think 'sexist' is not the right term. I was talking to a bot..
[05:34] <Jordan_U> soreau: ubottu said "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" you responded with "ubottu: I should have known since you're a girl and all"
[05:34] <maco> what
[05:35] <Jordan_U> You may have been "talking to a bot" but you were implying that women are not intelligent.
[05:35] <soreau> Jordan_U: Right, I had just found out that she was deemed a 'girl' and I made a snide comment
[05:35] <soreau> And also it's just a -party channel so I didn't mean anything by it..
[05:36] <Jordan_U> soreau: It was offensive, and you have been warned in the past. Being a party channel does not excuse offensive comments.
[05:37] <soreau> Jordan_U: I wasn't warned, I was kicked with a smile, for something that was assumed, so I did not think it was a problem
[05:37] <rww_> No, you weren't.
[05:38] <soreau> I mean it's not a big deal if you guys think it's that serious but I've already waited a few hours, which to me, means 3
[05:39] <soreau> But I was never warned previously
[05:39] <rww_> previously to what?
[05:39] <soreau> Previously to your ban
[05:40] <rww_> I made it abundantly clear yesterday that sexism is not acceptable in that channel. You knew that it wasn't to the point that you refused to admit what you were coyly talking about.
[05:40] <soreau> If someone would have warned me, then I would not have done it
[05:40] <Jordan_U> 2011-04-27T02:54:08 *** soreau (soreau!~soreau@unaffiliated/soreau) has left #ubuntu-release-party (requested by rww (Sexism is a violation of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and is not acceptable in #ubuntu*))
[05:40] <rww_> Your ban will not be removed at this time. If you for some reason feel the need to appeal a ban in a party channel that's only open for a week or two per cycle, please contact the IRCC. Have a nice day.
[05:40] <rww_> !appeals
[05:40] <soreau> rww_: Yes I was joking around in a party channel. I didn't know you guys would be this strict
[05:41] <rww_> soreau: Goodnight.
[05:41] <soreau> Also appeals is not valid here due to the time constraints
[05:41] <soreau> rww_: night
[05:41] <soreau> So can someone please unban me from #ubuntu-release-party?
[05:41] <rww_> soreau: Okay. Feel free to not, then. Either way, you're done here.
[05:42] <soreau> rww_: I thought you were going to bed..
[05:42] <maco> soreau: read his "good night" like a brit saying "Good DAY, SIR!"
[05:42] <soreau> maco: Well the reason I'm here is because I don't agree with his decision
[05:42] <soreau> and I've waited a few hours already
[05:43] <rww_> Let's go through the nifty webpage ubottu linked you to.
[05:43] <rww_> Step 1) lolno, that didn't work. Step 2) nope. Step 3) nope. Step 4) You are here!
[05:45] <rww> !notreally-#ubuntu-offtopic > buhman
[05:45] <cdbs> rww: Okay, now I know why the bot acts so humane, you control it from -ops-monitor :)
[05:46] <rww> cdbs: ;)
[05:46] <maco> so's ya know, if you're hoping for a third op to come forward for step 3... i'm going to agree with rww & Jordan_U on this one
[05:47] <soreau> Jordan_U: Oh yes you're right, did not see that message..
[05:50]  * rww thwaps PartyBot1
 come suc* my ball* ?
[06:03] <Tm_T> soreau: here's fourth op agreeing the decision, something else we can help you with?
[06:03] <ashmew2> request unban from ubuntu-release-party , used a phrase which was unacceptable , please unban ?
[06:04] <bazhang> ashmew2, before that your were spamming the bot as well
[06:04] <ashmew2> bazhang: ... wont happen again
[06:04] <bazhang> ashmew2, you're right
[06:04] <ashmew2> bazhang: it was showing different dates
[06:04] <soreau> Tm_T: I'm in the process of 4) for appeals
[06:04] <ashmew2> bazhang: no i dont like being right...unban me , ill abide by the rules
[06:05] <bazhang> ashmew2, not now
[06:05] <ashmew2> bazhang: when ?
[06:05] <bazhang> ashmew2, come back in 24 hrs
[06:05] <ashmew2> bazhang: but the party will be started in that time
[06:05] <ashmew2> ..
[06:05] <bazhang> ashmew2, bad luck for you then
[06:05] <Tm_T> soreau: ok, this channel won't be dealing this matter further, if you like to proceed, send an email to the irc council
[06:05] <ashmew2> bazhang: another chance wont hurt
[06:06] <ashmew2> bazhang: ill abide , or u can permanently ban me
[06:06] <soreau> Tm_T: Ok
[06:06] <bazhang> ashmew2, sorry, you wont be unbanned.
[06:06] <ashmew2> bazhang: You could cut the time down a little.
[06:07] <ashmew2> bazhang: never mind , guess i earned it, thanks and sorry.
[06:11] <rww> so can we make a countdown clock for 20 hours or so from now and then just pretend it got released early ;)?
[06:14] <maco> for the last timezone on the planet?
[06:14] <rww> that works better, I just couldn't be bothered doing the math
[06:16] <maco> theres a -12UTC
[06:16] <rww> @now Samoa
[06:16] <tsimpson> the @now command is disabled
[06:17] <maco> so say 2300 in -12 is.... 1100 UTC on friday
[06:17] <tsimpson> at least until fri or sat
[06:17] <rww> tsimpson: ah, good :)
[06:17] <cdbs> Wait a sec, when will -release-announce open?
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> cdbs: It's -release-party
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> and it already is
[06:21] <cdbs> tonyyarusso: Another channel usually comes up, -release-announce
[06:21] <tsimpson> there is a -release-announce too, that's +m
[06:21] <cdbs> tonyyarusso: I know about -release-party
[06:21] <tsimpson> it's currently +i too though
[06:21] <cdbs> ah, explains why I can't join it
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> oh, we did do that last time
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> I guess we'll see if it seems appropriate.
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> A hilight on the release manager seems easier.
[06:22] <rww> I don't think we need it this release. It doesn't feel busy enough.
[06:22] <Narwhal> bazhang: is it really worth to continue banning ashmew? what I mean is how bad was the offence?
[06:23] <bazhang> Narwhal, your call. I'm off to work. unabated spamming and sexual language
[06:23] <cdbs> My contract of working on Unity ends today, I'll be more into Irc work from now onwards
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> rww: That was my leaning
[06:24] <Narwhal> bazhang: I trust your judgement
[06:35] <HereForBuntuRele> is hoober black-listed from downloading 11.04?
[06:36] <Corey> ...
[06:36] <Corey> HereForBuntuRele: No.
[06:36] <HereForBuntuRele> restricted from the party? but am i blacklisted from that
[06:36] <Corey> Go play.
[06:36] <HereForBuntuRele> ok
[06:36] <Corey> Sorry if I overstepped there. :-)
[06:37] <tsimpson> nope, that's fine :)
[06:37] <Narwhal> nope
[06:37] <rww> For what it's worth, my current policy on Bryan Roo involves banning him on sight from any channel I have ops in. Apologies if that steps on anyone's toes.
[06:37] <Corey> I was wondering when something like that'd happen.  There's a certain subset of our users that are... yeah.
[06:37] <Narwhal> rww: nope
[06:45] <tsimpson> anyone have any thoughts on disabling Bantracker in -r-p?
[06:45] <tsimpson> I don't think it's really useful in that channel personally
[06:46] <rww> please do
[06:46] <rww> all the kicks are a waste of space :)
[06:46] <Narwhal> disable it
[06:46] <Narwhal> all the bans get cleared anyway
[06:47] <tsimpson> it's (hopefully) disabled there now
[06:47] <rww> looks like it
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> agreed
[06:48] <tsimpson> good, that should save me ~50 MB on the bantracker database :)
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> The banlist will probably fill up and have to be cleared in a few hours anyway.
[06:48] <Narwhal> oh I was guinea pig
[06:48] <Narwhal> happy to be of service
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> I think my favorite -r-p comment so far was along the lines of "Yes, 10.10 is out!"
[06:51] <Narwhal> heh
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> There's a chance skaet might stop by for a briefing about IRC workings to prepare for being in -r-p for announcement time, so if I'm not around to do that someone explain the "Mess with people for a few hours, go away to finish work, +m channel, announce, -m, partay" process.
[07:00] <rww> nod
[07:29] <elky> eh? i missed it?
[07:29] <rww> missed what
[07:29] <elky> release?
[07:29] <rww> no
[07:29] <elky> ok good
[07:29]  * rww tosses elky a rifle and sends her out into the field
[07:29] <rww> good luck, soldier!
[07:29]  * elky is on work premises.
[07:30] <elky> that place is so not worksafe.
[07:30] <elky> or 3g safe unfortunately. I couldn't even maintain a connection for more than 5 seconds last night.
[07:32] <rww> repeated offtopic ^
[07:32] <rww> elky: oh well. We only got two ban complaints thusfar anyway. quiet release thusfar
[07:33] <Narwhal> problem solved
[07:38] <rww> http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccountall/_ubuntu_release_party-week.png :D
[07:57] <maco> ubottu: !arb is <reply> The Application Review Board is responsible for vetting applications to be added to stable releases through the Post-Release Apps Process -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process
[09:20]  * Jordan_U goes to sleep, hopefully missing most of the chaos.
[10:24] <BarbaraNotBush> got asked to go here?
[10:24] <jussi> BarbaraNotBush: dont stress
[10:24] <BarbaraNotBush> ?
[10:24] <jussi> BarbaraNotBush: We are watching - they sent you here because you wanted someone removed
[10:24] <BarbaraNotBush> it was a "scare" hehe
[10:25] <jussi> BarbaraNotBush: no probs. have fun at the party :)
[10:25] <BarbaraNotBush> ty :)
[10:25] <jussi> BarbaraNotBush: please dont idle here :)
[10:27] <BarbaraNotBush> can you kick me please? nothing happends when i click the x on this webirc
[10:27] <BarbaraNotBush> nvm i should reload it
[10:27] <knome> :)
[10:31] <tsimpson> I'm pretty sure I banned that person a while ago
[10:31] <tsimpson> Barbarabush
[10:32] <knome> lol
[10:32] <knome> she was not bush
[10:32] <knome> :P
[10:59] <tsimpson> anyone want to op-up in -r-p and stop me from going completely insane?
[11:07] <mrmist> tsimpson: I can help out if there's no other real ops around. What's your criteria?
[11:07] <Incarus6> tsimpson, what happened?
[11:07] <jussi> mrmist: I think we are ok atm, but if noone is around, see topic :)
[11:07] <mrmist> cool
[11:08] <tsimpson> mrmist: links to anything that looks like a natty release gets a ban basically
[11:09] <Incarus6> tsimpson, the page changed, its not beta2 anymore.. btw I was helping ppl with issues and not talking about natty
[11:09] <mrmist> it's interestingly busy in there.
[11:10] <jussi> mrmist: normal, sadly :P
[11:10] <mrmist> heh
[11:10] <tsimpson> Incarus6: is it difficult to understand that when we say "don't post links", you should not post links...
[11:11] <Incarus6> tsimpson, no one said that. But thanks for banning, I was talking about chromium and sait Natty isn't released yet all the time
 linxfreaker, its released, but not in the repo yet
[11:12] <tsimpson> Incarus6: was that about chrome?
[11:14] <Incarus6> Im not here to discuss about that. I just wanted to ask you if you could revert the ban that I can help the irc users to fix their ubuntu (10.10) related issues. im not in #ubuntu to talk about natty (latest release is still 10.10), I was just pointing you to the fact, that this link changed
[11:21] <Incarus6> IS that ban for just one day?
[11:21] <tsimpson> in this instance, yes
[11:26] <Incarus6> Seems to be an overreaction to me - I know, it's allways stress when a knew release is coming out - btu check the log, I never said Natty is released. (e.g.: [11:43:52] <Incarus6> cleared cache, can't confirm that. Its Beta2), but Im not here to discuss about that now. good day
[12:01] <babarabush> hey i just got banned for being right
[12:01] <babarabush> eat that tsimpson
[12:01] <babarabush> official by ubuntu.com
[12:01] <tsimpson> yeah, that'll work
[12:02] <jrib> 11.04 is out at ubuntu.com now but I don't see an announcement
[12:09] <Flannel> Someone made a mistake, one way or the other :)
[12:09] <Flannel> and also, this is a really early release time
[12:09] <jrib> yep
[12:09] <wgrant> Not really a mistake.
[12:10] <wgrant> The website is always pushed early.
[12:10] <Flannel> wgrant: but not the actual 11.04 downloads
[12:10] <jrib> "The requested URL /releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server."
[12:10] <wgrant> On the website? Yes.
[12:11] <Flannel> Oh interesting.
[12:11] <Flannel> I just had it ask me if I wanted to save it, but now I try again, and get a 404
[12:11] <wgrant> It's not on every mirror yet.
[12:11] <jrib> yeah, it probably chooses mirrors at random and the mirrors aren't up to date
[12:11] <Flannel> Oh, different mirrors, right.
[12:13] <elky> You mean there's no magic button that updates a hundred places? There goes that dream.
[12:13] <wgrant> They're slowly syncing.
[12:21] <elky> tsimpson, ...
[12:22] <tsimpson> yes?
[12:25] <jrib> #ubuntu+1 is +i?
[12:25] <tsimpson> yes
[12:25] <jrib> why?
[12:26] <tsimpson> because all the discussion in there was about links to ISOs etc
[12:26] <jrib> but where are people seeking support with 11.04 supposed to go?
[12:26] <tsimpson> tbh, I was planning on only making it +i for a few mins, I must have just forgotten
[12:28] <vibhav> why was i banned from #ubuntu-release-party!!
[12:30] <paranox> vibhav: you are annoying
[12:30] <vibhav> What did i do paranox?
[12:30] <paranox> vibhav: are you the release manager
[12:30] <paranox> i wanna bash the release manager
[12:30] <vibhav> No
[12:31] <vibhav> The Ubuntu Webiste says Its released
[12:31] <paranox> apparently he is holding off on releasing 11.04 until next week
[12:31] <paranox> the ubuntu website is an idiot
[12:31] <vibhav> then please unbann me
[12:32] <paranox> `unban vibhav
[12:32] <paranox> there you go
[12:32] <ikonia> enough
[12:33] <vibhav> I am banned still
[12:33] <vibhav> paranox I am banned still
[12:33] <paranox> vibhav: are you sure?
[12:33] <ikonia> paranox: is not an op here
[12:33] <paranox> try again
[12:33] <ikonia> paranox: please stop
[12:33] <paranox> ikonia: is not an op here
[12:33] <vibhav> what to do?
[12:33] <bazhang> paranox, thats enough
[12:33] <ikonia> paranox: do you need anything from this channel ?
[12:33] <ikonia> paranox: I am voiced to show I am - you are not
[12:33] <ikonia> vibhav: hang on a minute
[12:33] <paranox> ikonia: voice me
[12:34] <vibhav> I am banned still now...
[12:34] <ikonia> paranox: no - do you need anything from this channel
[12:34] <paranox> ikonia: how does being voiced show you are an op?
[12:34] <ikonia> vibhav: please hang on a minute
[12:34] <paranox> wouldn't being an op show you are an op?
[12:34] <vibhav> ikonia : ok
[12:34] <ikonia> paranox: that is how this channel is setup - that's not for debate
[12:34] <ikonia> paranox: do you need anything from this channel, yes/no ?
[12:34] <vibhav> paranox why are you arguining
[12:34] <ikonia> vibhav: please - wait a minute
[12:34] <paranox> ikonia: does that mean there are 57 ops in here?
[12:34] <paranox> ikonia: yes
[12:34] <vibhav> ikonia : i am waiting
[12:34] <ikonia> paranox: what do you need ?
[12:34] <ikonia> vibhav: thanks, please wait quietly - we'll get to you asap
[12:34] <paranox> ikonia: i need to know why there are 57 ops in this channel
[12:35] <ikonia> paranox: there are as many as voiced
[12:35] <ikonia> paranox: anything else ?
[12:36] <paranox> ikonia: can you voice me?
[12:36] <paranox> please?
[12:36] <ikonia> paranox: no - you're not an op
[12:36] <paranox> ikonia: are you an op?
[12:36] <ikonia> vibhav: you're unbanned from #ubuntu-release-party
[12:36] <ikonia> paranox: yes,
[12:36] <paranox> ikonia: so can you make me an op too?
[12:36] <vibhav> ikonia : thanks!
[12:36] <vibhav> Can i also be an OP
[12:36] <ikonia> paranox: no
[12:36] <ikonia> no
[12:37] <vibhav> Cannot join #ubuntu-release-party (You are banned).
[12:37] <vibhav> still banned
[12:37] <ikonia> vibhav: I'll check again
[12:37] <paranox> ikonia: is #ubuntu-ops-monitor the channel that monitors the ops in #ubuntu-ops that monitors the ops in #ubuntu?
[12:37] <ikonia> vibhav: try now
[12:37] <paranox> sorry my connection dropped out
[12:37] <vibhav> DONE!
[12:37] <paranox> ikonia: is #ubuntu-ops-monitor the channel that monitors the ops in #ubuntu-ops that monitors the ops in #ubuntu?
[12:37] <vibhav> thanks!
[12:37] <tsimpson> paranox: no, you were removed
[12:38] <paranox> what do you mean removed?
[12:38] <paranox> you can't control my computer?
[12:38] <paranox> are yo
[12:38] <paranox> do you control my computer?
[12:38] <ikonia> paranox: I think we are done here
[12:38] <ikonia> paranox: please leave this channel
[12:38] <paranox> tsimpson:
[12:38] <tsimpson> no, it makes you part a channel
[12:38] <tsimpson> like a kick
[12:38] <paranox> how can something make me aprt a channel?
[12:38] <ikonia> paranox: it's irc, read irc.freenode.net
[12:38] <paranox> i thought only ops could kick me
[12:38] <ikonia> paranox: tsimpson IS an op
[12:39] <paranox> what is irc?
[12:39] <paranox> where am i?
[12:39] <paranox> ikonia: i thought you were the op
[12:39] <ikonia> can we stop this messing around please, leave the channel
[12:39] <tsimpson> if there's nothing specific you want to discuss, you should leave paranox
[12:39] <paranox> ikonia: i don't know how
[12:39] <ikonia> thanks
[12:44] <knome> !isitout
[12:44] <tsimpson> !no isitout is <reply> Yes, join #ubuntu-release-party to celebrate!
[12:44] <knome> :)
[12:44] <elky> ok that's pretty messed up. soreau seems to have scripted himself up
[12:44] <ikonia> ?
[12:44] <bazhang> op?
[12:45] <LjL> scripted himself up?
[12:45] <elky> he joined within seconds, and every 10 seconds was doing a factoid call to either downloads or torrents
[12:45] <jussi> ahh dammit
[12:45] <jussi> I missed the release
[12:45] <Flannel> jussi: by seconds!
[12:46] <LjL> me too
[12:46] <elky> by *minutes*
[12:46] <LjL> well actually i didn't
[12:46] <bazhang> microseconds!
[12:46] <Flannel> many many nanoseconds!
[12:46] <bazhang> hehe
[12:46] <knome> jussi, now you'll have to wait for oneiric!
[12:46] <jussi> lol
[12:47] <Flannel> Alright, once again, the website gives no ability to download torrents or alt CD.  This is stupid.   Why does the website slide backwards with every release.
[12:47] <elky> only 6 months
[12:48] <ikonia> soreau's stopped
[12:48] <ikonia> just removed the q for a test
[12:48] <LjL> by the way, i know it's not usually how it works, but if you want to give me temporary access in #ubuntu to help dealing with the increased load, i'm in (though i can really only do policing, it's been too many releases since what i'm running for me to be able to help in any meaningful way)
[12:49] <wgrant> Flannel: You mean the "alternative downloads" link?
[12:50] <tsimpson> LjL: btw, did you notice FloodBot1 kicked FloodBot2 from #ubuntu-unregged earlier?
[12:52] <LjL> tsimpson: O.o
[12:52] <tsimpson> LjL: actually PartyBot1 did the kicking
[12:52] <LjL> tsimpson: during a +i masskick?
[12:52] <LjL> oh
[12:52] <tsimpson> my eyes need washing
[12:52] <LjL> well partybot is silly, shouldn't even really stay opped
[12:56] <jussi> LjL: until monday. be good: [28-Apr-11 14:56:01] [ChanServ] Flags +votiA were set on LjL in #ubuntu.
[12:59] <LjL> jussi: have i ever been anything but an angel :3
[12:59] <jussi> hehe
[12:59] <knome> according to the smiley, a walrus
[13:00] <LjL> i am the eggman they are the eggmen i am the walrus!
[13:00] <bazhang> rgr is getting annoying
[13:02] <ikonia> agreed
[13:23] <Pici> I forwarded #ubuntu+1 to #ubuntu
[13:25] <topyli> obvously it's out, my desktop just stopped working
[13:26] <knome> haha
[13:26] <jussi> heh
[13:28] <LjL> botmasters, might want to change !info to point to natty
[13:29] <Pici> I just upadated !natty and !maverick
[13:30] <LjL> pici is stuck in a factory factory!
[13:30] <LjL> factoid, even
[13:32] <jussi> !info bash
[13:32] <jussi> :)
[13:32]  * LjL should update !offline
[13:32] <Pici> @config channel #ubuntu plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease
[13:32] <Pici> jussi: ^
[13:33] <Incarus6> pls ban "[14:32:29] <zfk> I SAID SAUSAGE MCMUFFIN YOU FAGGOTS NOT SAUSAGE MCGRIDDLE" in #ubuntu
[13:33] <Pici> Incarus6: Hes been muted already.
[13:33] <jussi> @config channel #ubuntu plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease natty
[13:34] <Incarus6> thx, good day
[13:34] <jussi> stupid channel specific ones :P
[13:34] <Pici> jussi: -offtopic still seems to be using maverick.  Odd.
[13:34] <jussi> hrm, I wonder how w3e drop the channel specific stuff..
[13:34] <jussi> must find out
[13:36] <jussi> @config channel #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease
[13:36] <jussi> @config channel #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.packageinfo.defaultrelease natty
[13:36] <jussi> sigh
[13:36] <jussi> if anyone notices others...
[13:38] <LjL> are we pushing the use of metalinks in any way?
[13:38] <LjL> they're cool
[13:39] <jussi> metalinks?
[13:39] <LjL> jussi: they're files that contain several links of various types (HTTP, torrent...) to the same file. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ has them. they can be opened using aria2c
[13:39] <LjL> !info aria2
[13:40] <LjL> jussi: it downloads from several sources at a time, helps to load balance and uses bittorrent transparently
[13:40] <LjL> http://www.metalinker.org/
[13:41] <jussi> ahh, interesting
[13:42] <LjL> and i can testify that aria2c works very well, never got a corrupted download from it myself
[13:42]  * jussi corrupts LjL's downloads :P
[13:44] <Pici> Remember that 9.10's EOL is tomorrow.
[13:51] <maco> !natty
[13:51] <maco> woah confusing
[13:51] <maco> its updated here but not in #ubuntu?
[13:52] <Pici> maco: They called !ubuntu+1
[13:52] <maco> ooo
[13:52] <maco> !ubuntu+1
[13:52] <Pici> (I just fixed it)
[13:52] <maco> oh
[14:01] <Pici> How do people feel about the !gnome3-#ubuntu+1 factioid migrating to #ubuntu?
[14:04] <LjL> Pici: i'd keep it, people are going to ask and demand an answer anyway... as long as it clearly says it's dangerous and unsupported, meh, caveat emptor
[14:05] <LjL> maybe make it DANGEROUS instead of _dangerous_, mostly because i hate underscores :P
[14:05] <knome> hah
[14:05] <knome> make it dangerous :P
[14:12] <LjL> actually back then i had made a metalink factoid, it seems
[14:12] <LjL> !metalink
[14:12] <LjL> well, factoid and wikipage
[14:13] <LjL> can i add the wiki page to the party topic?
[14:13] <Pici> I don't see why not
[14:14] <jussi> go for it
[14:17] <LjL> Natty added to wiki, topic changed
[14:19] <jussi> ugh... who added the mock the voiced part?
[14:21] <LjL> jussi: why don't you guess
[14:21] <jussi> LjL: Its not funny, please dont put it on.
[14:21] <LjL> u ppl have no sense of fun :(
[14:23] <LjL> why two bots in party?
[14:24] <Pici> I was just going to ask that
[14:25] <jussi> curious
[14:25] <Pici> I told ubottu to leave.
[14:31] <bazhang> rgr seems to still be spreading misinfo
[14:32]  * Pici gets back to work
[14:40] <bazhang> he's had half a dozen warnings now
[14:48] <vibhav> Cannot join #ubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only).
[14:49] <bazhang> vibhav, why would you need to
[14:50] <vibhav> bazhang idk :P
[14:50] <bazhang> vibhav, oneiric wont have any packages for a while yet
[14:51] <vibhav> OK
[14:51] <Pici> Its forwarding to #ubuntu
[14:51] <mneptok> THE CHANNEL FROM THE FUUUUUUUUTUUUUUUUUUUUURE!
[14:51]  * mneptok plays his theremin
[14:52] <vibhav> ok!
[14:53] <Pici> vibhav: Can we help you with anything else?
[14:54] <popey> bazhang: define "a while". This afternoon :)
[14:54] <bazhang> :)
[14:55] <highvoltage> mneptok: yeah but can you do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPvTTc7jAVQ
[14:57] <mneptok> highvoltage: i only own power saws. they go through bone better.
 No im fine
[14:57] <bazhang> hi
[14:57] <vibhav> hi
[14:57] <Pici> vibhav: Please take note of the channel topic then, particlarly the part about idling.
[14:58] <Sterist> please forgive me for asking here but does anyone still have contact with the PSubuntu.com moderators? (ps3 ubuntu forums)
[14:58] <highvoltage> mneptok: nice
 Ok dude
 I want to ask one thing
[14:59] <Sterist> they've really been MIA and prove hard to reach... need to dig deep (-_-)
 How do I become OP?
[15:00] <Pici> !canibeanop | vibhav
[15:00] <maco> (does anyone else consistently read that as "can i bean op"?)
[15:02] <mneptok> maco: i read it as "canib eanop" which is Micronesian for "tuna-filled waffles"
[15:05] <bazhang> p57976AE0.dip.t-dialin.net wonder if LALALLAA is larstorben
[15:05] <Pici> I'm pretty sure it is.
[15:05] <bazhang> oh yeah it is
[15:25] <highvoltage> '/win 15
[15:27] <ikonia> what a great factoid suggestion
[15:29] <knome> fantastic
[15:33] <LjL> :(
[15:36] <Logan_> LjL: you know what's necessary now, right?
[15:37] <LjL> global +m?
[15:37] <Logan_> updating all of the factoids for natty :P
[15:37] <LjL> pici has been doing a bit of that ;)
[15:37] <LjL> also, i think some factoids use a $variable for that now
[15:37] <jussi> I think we are mostly up to date- if youve got ones that arent, let us know :)
[15:38] <Logan_> believe me, I'll find some :P
[15:38] <Logan_> plus, I have to check that all of the factoids listing recommended packages still exist in Natty
[15:38] <jussi> Logan_: good luck :)
[15:38] <Logan_> heh
[15:38] <Logan_> I'll just use !info with ubottu
[15:38] <jussi> Im more than happy to update them if you find them
[15:39] <jussi> :)
[15:41] <Logan_> some -#ubuntu-1s should strip that
[15:41] <Logan_> as Natty is now supported in #ubuntu
[15:41] <jussi> Logan_: suggestions and specific factoids :)
[15:41] <Logan_> easy way to fix that?  or do you have to make a new one without that ending and then alias the ones thatends with -#ubuntu-1?
[15:41] <Logan_> *that end
[15:42] <jussi> Logan_: just out of curiousity, do you use PM to look through factoids or the web interface?
[15:42] <Logan_> web interface, mostly
[15:42] <jussi> :)
[15:43] <LjL> Logan_: remember #ubuntu+1 will come back shortly enough for Oneiric, though
[15:44] <Logan_> how soon?
[15:44] <LjL> Logan_: depends when the toolchain is ready, i guess between two weeks and a month maybe
[15:44] <LjL> possibly sooner
[15:46] <Logan_> LjL cut and pasted it to !gnome3, so that one is no longer necessary
[15:48] <LjL> Logan_ remember i still don't have editing privileges on the bot :P
[15:48] <Logan_> oops, that was Pici
[15:52] <Logan_> whoops, don't do that one
[15:52] <Pici> I already updated !gnome3
[15:52] <Logan_> should be: !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player,  /, /
[15:52] <Logan_> since Beep Media Player doesn't even exist in the repo
[15:52] <Logan_> Pici: yes, but !gnome3-#ubuntu+1 wasn't forgotten
[15:53] <Logan_> that players one actually should be: !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player, /, /
[15:53] <Pici> !forget gnome3-#ubuntu+1
[15:53] <Logan_> that's my final answer :P
[15:53] <Logan_> Pici: can you fix that one?
[15:54] <Pici> !players
[15:54] <Pici> !-players
[15:54] <Pici> !players =~ s/, Beep Media Player, /, /
[15:54] <Logan_> Pici: thanks :)
[15:54] <Pici> Logan_: np
[15:55]  * Logan_ finds some more factoids to mess with :P
[16:03] <Logan_> neither of those packages exists in the repo
[16:03] <LjL> :(
[16:03] <Logan_> haha, that's an LjL factoid
[16:03] <LjL> why do important packages keep getting pulled
[16:04]  * Logan_ pokes Pici or jussi 
[16:04] <jussi> !ocr
[16:05] <jussi> Logan_: thats still borked
[16:05] <jussi> !info kooka
[16:05] <jussi> ;)
[16:05] <Logan_> ?
[16:05] <LjL> hold on a minute, looking for packages
[16:05] <jussi> !info skanlite
[16:05] <Logan_> jussi: that's my point :P
[16:05] <Logan_> that command removes that sentence at the end
[16:05] <Logan_> since neither of those packages exist in the repo
[16:06] <jussi> oh, bad comprehension day :D
[16:06] <Logan_> heh
[16:06] <jussi> seems kinda pointless being that short - is here a wiki page or something we can put in?
[16:07] <LjL> jussi: doesn't do OCR :(
[16:07] <LjL> i checked
[16:07] <jussi> ok
[16:07] <LjL> that's why i hate KDE4 with a *passion*
[16:07] <jussi> ?
[16:07] <LjL> it took away lots of useful programs
[16:08] <Logan_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR maybe
[16:08] <Logan_> jussi: ^
[16:08] <Logan_> Instead of listing the packages, just link to that page, which lists some itself.
[16:09] <jussi> Logan_: sounds good. proposal?
[16:10] <LjL> so apparently there's not a single OCR frontend in the repos anymore aside from some TK based one. how depressing.
[16:10] <LjL> one step forward, two steps back.
[16:10] <jussi> !no ocr is <reply> For OCR (optical character recognition) software in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR for packages and instructions.
[16:10] <jussi> LjL: kooka hasnt been maintained since at least mid 2007
[16:11] <Logan_> thanks jussi
[16:11]  * Logan_ goes to find some more factoids :)
[16:11] <LjL> jussi: neither has my KDE 3.5, but it hasn't stopped working
[16:12] <jussi> !plg
[16:12] <jussi> Logan_: why?
[16:12] <Logan_> LjL added it back in 2007, and none of the links work
[16:13] <Logan_> well, the first one redirects to a page on java.net, but the downloads link doesn't show any files
[16:13] <Logan_> inactive project, most likely
[16:14] <Logan_> jussi: ^
[16:14] <LjL> guess Oracle destroyed that stuff
[16:16] <ikonia> Oracle is Gozers twin
[16:16] <Logan_> also, when you get to it: !pdf =~ s/kdpf#///
[16:17] <LjL> i didn't make that one!
[16:17] <LjL> and it shows, it's terrible. / to separate package names? ;(
[16:18] <jussi> !forget plg
[16:18] <jussi> !pdf
[16:19] <maco> kpdf was kde3-only, wasnt it?
[16:19] <Logan_> LjL: yeah, it's a pain
[16:19] <LjL> s:GNU/Linux:Ubuntu: also
[16:21] <jussi> !no, pdf is <reply>The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)
[16:21] <jussi> !get_iplayer
[16:22] <maco> get_iplayer is handy
[16:22] <maco> why forget it?
[16:22] <Logan_> doesn't exist in the natty repo
[16:22] <maco> get-iplayer |     2.79-1 | natty/universe | source, all
[16:22] <Logan_> oh, it's a dash
[16:22] <Logan_> nvm, then
[16:22] <jussi> I think it needs re-wording though
[16:23] <jussi> its hardly a stardard factoid...
[16:23] <maco> yeah, package names use - for word-breaks. _ is just for separating off the version
[16:32] <Logan_> (new link)
[16:34] <Logan_> jussi: ^
[16:34] <jussi> !alternate
[16:34] <jussi> !no alternate is <reply> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[16:35] <jussi> !alternate
[16:35] <jussi> Logan_: shall we do this in #ubuntu-irc ? most of the ops are there also, and it doesnt take up this channel, if comes a time its needed
[16:36] <Logan_> alright
[16:36] <jussi> Logan_: remember to part here :)
[18:35] <ikonia> hey it's Pricey
[18:39] <ikonia> cdbs: you work for canonical ?
[18:39] <cdbs> ikonia: yep, until today
[18:40] <cdbs> ikonia: I was under a 1-month contract for Unity, which ended today
[18:40] <ikonia> how interesting
[18:41] <IdleOne> if sebsebseb is going to give his opinion every time someone asks about Unity I am going to ban him. He knows very well about the offtopic rule.
[18:41] <ikonia> I would support that
[18:42] <IdleOne> I am not trying to deny him his opinion but we don't need to see it in the support channel.
[18:42] <ikonia> I would support that
[18:42] <ikonia> I don't like it - but you have a choice, use the distro, change the desktop, don't use the distro, pick one
[18:43] <IdleOne> Right. my feeling is you don't have to like it but #ubuntu is for support and not 45 minute discussions about how much you think it sucks.
[18:48] <IdleOne> cdbs is a rock star today, everybody wants yoor help hehe
[18:48] <IdleOne> your*
[19:55] <IdleOne> -!hashes does not have the 11.04 hash. http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Ubuntu/11.04/MD5SUMS does
[19:56]  * Pici finds someone to poke
[19:58] <IdleOne> thank you Pici
[20:08] <IdleOne> added a goo.gl to the 11.04 md5sums to !hashes
[20:08] <IdleOne> !hashes
[20:08] <IdleOne> we can update when/if they fix the help.ubuntu. page
[20:12] <IdleOne> also added one for the keyboard shortcuts in Unity to !shortcuts
[20:42] <Pici> I feel like adding "Complaing about unity will not be tolerated here" to the topic.
[20:42] <maco> Pici: "complaining about unity will not make it go away" would be funnier
[20:44] <LjL> i feel like complaining about unity
[20:44] <Pici> I feel like complaing about people complaing
[20:45] <LjL> i feel like complaining about people complaining about people complaining
[21:02] <Pici> !hashes =~ /Natty.*//
[21:02] <Pici> !hashes
[21:02] <Pici> IdleOne: I just got word that the hashes pages was updated, I fixed the factoid.
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Just send them to #xubuntu; we can fix the problem with unity :-)
[21:04] <highvoltage> charlie-tca: can you use compiz with xfce?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:05] <IdleOne> Pici: perfect, thanks for handling that :)
[21:06] <charlie-tca> highvoltage: we give a choice, xfwm4 compositor or compiz
[21:07] <Pici> !no nbr is <reply> Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.
[21:07] <IdleOne> !une
[21:08] <Pici> Feel free to play with the wording
[21:09] <IdleOne> looks fine to me
[21:10] <LjL> !nbr is <reply> Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is gaining ground like the black plague.
[21:10]  * LjL plays with the wording
[21:10] <IdleOne> hehe
[21:11] <IdleOne> LjL: you got +o in #u
[21:11] <IdleOne> when did that happen?
[21:11] <Pici> When he hacked the gibson
[21:12] <Pici> or something.
[21:12] <IdleOne> good for him
[21:13] <Pici> macrossm might need some help remembering what #ubuntu is for
[21:13] <Pici> I am out for a bit.
[21:13] <LjL> IdleOne: i've got ops until monday to help deal with the release
[21:13] <IdleOne> I don't see why you have a limited time only
[21:13] <IdleOne> but I suppose you agreed to that
[21:13] <LjL> processes!
[21:14] <IdleOne> processes, so former IRCC member, Ubuntu member, Floodbot owner...yup you should have to apply and better make that wiki page and get some +1's
[21:15]  * LjL shrugs
[21:16] <IdleOne> anyway, happy you are here backing us up :)
[21:25] <darkz> Hey everyone... i installed 11.04 and now i can no longer connect to my wifi.. doesnt even show up, other AP's show up.. tested it from my 10.10 box, works fine... any ideas?
[21:27] <topyli> darkz: this channel is for irc problems. please join #ubuntu for help
[21:27] <darkz> this is the only ubuntu channel i can ask in
[21:27] <topyli> how so?
[21:27] <darkz> muted in #ubuntu and the party channel
[21:28] <topyli> we can't help with your wifi, but we might be able to help with your problems with #ubuntu. why are you muted?
[21:28] <darkz> dont even remember
[21:29] <darkz> maybe its not even me that got banned im there hehe
[21:29] <darkz> in*
[21:30] <LjL> darkz: you randomly pasted a message from ubottu that told you ubottu didn't know about something not very appropriate for the channel
[21:30] <darkz> i did?
[21:30] <darkz> you sure its me?
[21:31] <darkz> im connected to a fonera
[21:32] <LjL> darkz: are you familiar with our guidelines?
[21:32] <darkz> i guess
[21:32] <LjL> darkz: i will remove that ban, but please make sure you know the contents of !etiquette and !guidelines so nobody has to add it back, whether or not it was you the first time
[21:33] <darkz> ok ty :)
[21:34] <LjL> darkz: you should be able to speak now
[21:34] <darkz> thanks :)
[23:20] <elky> ok, at work, closed -party